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Speaker 1: it's complicated. How often do we have that talk here

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Speaker 1: So he travels to Europe and sees somebody out there

427
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: has found a better way. And Andrew Carnegie comes back

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Speaker 1: from Europe with the ability to mass produce steel. Hang on,

429
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Speaker 1: I've got a nat him on inside of me. Jesse Kelly,

430
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: don't listening to the Jesse Kelly show. You know what's

431
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: coming right now. Financially in this country, everybody knows. You

432
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: talk to anybody in finance and they'll tell you the

433
00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: same thing, only they don't use the words crash. They

434
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: don't use words like recession or depression. They're finance guys.

435
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: They all use the same word, don't they. Correction. Oh,

436
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a market correction. Why does the market

437
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: need a correction? Because the Feds have been printing money

438
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: by the trillion while everybody's going on a business or

439
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: having their business reduced. That means it's a fact the

440
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: market is going to correct. Don't have all your finances

441
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Speaker 1: wiped out. If you have all your money in stocks

442
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Speaker 1: and bonds right now, come on, get a gold Ira

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Speaker 1: from gold Alliance and make sure you're protected. Get a

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Speaker 1: Gold Alliance dot com slash jesse. That's Gold Alliance dot

445
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Speaker 1: com slash jesse. Go there, now, take care of this today.

446
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: Carnegie comes back and he starts producing steel, and he

447
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: starts doing things. Well, he'd already been doing things like this,

448
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: but he really starts ramping up something called vertical integration.

449
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: And vertical integration is simply this, you start buying up

450
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: everything in your chain of business. The best way I

451
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: can describe it is this Amazon coming up with their

452
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: own delivery service instead of using ups and FedEx. That

453
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: is textbook vertical integration. Carnegie does get his Saint Louis

454
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: Bridge built, I should I should say, and part of

455
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: vertical vertical integration. If your Carnegie is you need coke,

456
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: not cocaine, not Coca cola, don't be immature, Chris. Coke

457
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: is something from coal. It's like a gas from coal

458
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 1: that helps you mass produce the steel. The big coke

459
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: man in America at the time is a man named

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Speaker 1: Henry Frick. Henry Frick is an interesting character. Henry Frick

461
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: is a very very hard man, hard nosed, vicious, brutal, ruthless,

462
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: ruthless individual. Carnegie, well, Carnegie was raised to be more gentle.

463
00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: Carnegie actually believed, believed it all his heart, that he

464
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: was supposed to treat people fairly and kindly. Carnegie didn't

465
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: believe in dying with money. He said, to die rich

466
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: as a disgrace. Carnegie believed you should give all your

467
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: money away at some point in time. That's that's what

468
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: Carnegie believed. Ah, Henry Frick didn't believe any of that,

469
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: none of that. But Carnegie and Frick complimented each other

470
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: really well. Frick could do a lot of the things

471
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: Carnegie wanted done but didn't have the stomach to do.

472
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: When we're gonna get to that, you see, Frick is

473
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: all about that cutting costs life. Well, so was Carnegie,

474
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: but Frick was willing to actually do the necessary things

475
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 1: to make this happen and allow me to explain. They believed,

476
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 1: and they weren't wrong about this, that if you cut

477
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: costs as a business, that profits would come no matter what.

478
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: And this is business one oh one. Cut your costs down. Now,

479
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: you can take that two extremes. You can get too

480
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: extreme with it. You can get too greedy at some

481
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: point trying to maximize profits and underpay your people, and

482
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: then they walk to your competitor. It's a dangerous game.

483
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: But just know, every businessman, whether you're Andrew freaking Carnegie

484
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: or the local boutique shop, every single one of them

485
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: has a profit loss sheet where they are showing assets

486
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: and liabilities. They're looking at costs, what's costing them. And

487
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: every single business, without fail, looks at those costs and

488
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: tries to figure out how to reduce them. And it

489
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: should be noted labor is a huge cost. And this

490
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: is when it gets uncomfortable, because now we're talking about

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Speaker 1: you and I right, and I will tell you, while

492
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: I don't like unions, I've never been a part of

493
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: a union. I grew up again construction family, russ Belt, Ohio.

494
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: I understand unions, and I understand a man who's never

495
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: gonna be Andrew Carnegie, but once better wages, better hours,

496
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: better benefits for his family. I get it. I'm You're

497
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: never gonna hear me defend these disgusting teachers unions or

498
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: government unions. You're never ever gonna hear me defend these.

499
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: But a lot of these unions I understand. And I'm

500
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: not saying I'm a supporter of them, but I get them.

501
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: I get them a lot. We're talking about someone else's

502
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: life too, when you're looking at cutting those labor costs.

503
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: I have always believed you should treat your employees well,

504
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: not for not so they stay. I mean, that's a

505
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: nice benefit, because I just believe that's frankly the right

506
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: thing to do, period. And if they screw you, which

507
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: they will, so be it you did the right thing,

508
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: they're gone. Whatever I believe in treating your employees well,

509
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: Carnegie said he believed that and kind of believe that.

510
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: Henry Frick didn't believe that at all. Henry Frick believed

511
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Speaker 1: I'm here to cut costs, and I'll fire all of

512
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: you if I feel like Before we get to how

513
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: all that plays out, just know Henry Frick gets welcomed

514
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: in by Andrew Carneggie as his chairman. He's his number two.

515
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: He is a very very powerful, very very wealthy man.

516
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Speaker 1: Hang up, Well, when you're super wealthy, you do super

517
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: wealthy things. And I don't judge people for that. I

518
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 1: don't care about that. You do all the fun things,

519
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: all the things that bring you joy that you can afford, right,

520
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: whatever that is, I don't care if that's I don't

521
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Speaker 1: care if that's a pizza night once a week or

522
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Speaker 1: a lear jet to Paris. You do the things that

523
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: you can afford that bring you joy. And rich people,

524
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: one thing I really really learned in my run for

525
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: Congress is that rich people love hanging out with other

526
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: rich people, rubbing elbows with other rich people. Now one,

527
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: they do this because they talk about so many of

528
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: the same things. Oh you have a new Bentley, jolly

529
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: good old chap. But they do this for businesses Foxplain

530
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly returns next. This is a Jesse Kelly show.

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Speaker 1: Rich people love hanging out with other rich people for

532
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: business reasons. I really found this out when I was

533
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: running for Congress and you would hang out with these

534
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: rich people and you'd go golfing with them, and then

535
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: you'd come back to the golf clubhouse and you're sitting

536
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: down and you're having lunch, and there's a bunch of

537
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: millionaires sitting around a table and they start talking about

538
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: money and investing in each other's stuff, like it's monopoly money. Hey, Frank,

539
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: so you want to put fifty thousand in this new

540
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: barber thing. You're good for that? Oh cool, nice, I'll

541
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: swing I'll have my guys swing by later and grab

542
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: that check. Hey Bill, you are still good for the

543
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty grand and the dealership up the road.

544
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: Oh good. And that's just how they talk as if

545
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: you know, hey, I'm all, can't I have some salt?

546
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: Someone pass the salt. And that's fine. That's how rich

547
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: people get richer. That's fine. That's capitalism. Good for them.

548
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: And that's why you end up with exclusive clubs for

549
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: rich people. They enjoy being in that environment and I

550
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: get that. And the people who resent that are the

551
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: people who can't get in. And as soon as you

552
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: can afford to get in, you get in. And you

553
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: don't want the scumbags in we're all trying to get

554
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: in the club. No one else can get in, and

555
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: until you can get in, you whine about it and

556
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 1: say everybody should be allowed in, and then a second

557
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: you can get in, you're like, oh, we don't want

558
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: him in here. It's human nature. Frick starts a hunting club,

559
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: a fishing club on a lake in Pennsylvania, buys a

560
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: big piece of property, puts a sweet building on it,

561
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: and it is exactly what it sounds like. It's right

562
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: on a lake. It is georgeish, and go see pictures

563
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: of it to this day. Although they're black and white,

564
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure unless somebody's colorized them. And it's cigars, five

565
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: star chefs. It's husbands and wives, boyfriends and girlfriends if

566
00:44:54,840 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: they're rich, and it's fancy dinners, relaxation, the best booze, fishing,

567
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 1: hunting with other rich people, the titans of industry. It's

568
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: a member's only club. You don't just go knocking on

569
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Speaker 1: the door, No, Chris, they would not have welcomed us in.

570
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: You have to join. Carnegie joins the club. It's Fricks club,

571
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: but Carnegie joins, and it's all fine, right. This wouldn't

572
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: even be a story we wouldn't even be talking about this,

573
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: except well, this lake has a dam, the dam is

574
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: old and not in the best shape. When the land

575
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: is purchased. All this would be okay too if there

576
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: wasn't a little place called Johnstown, a little town underneath

577
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: the dam, not directly underneath. But it's you know what

578
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 1: I'm talking about now is when it gets controversial. Now's

579
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: when it's Now's when we're gonna have to have some

580
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: hard discussions here about who's it fault for. What We

581
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: do know this for a fact a fact, the Hunt

582
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: and Fish Club owned that damn. It was part of

583
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: their property, which is kind of weird when you think

584
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: about it. How could a private it. But they owned it,

585
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: owned it so much that they made adjustments to it.

586
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 1: And you notice I did not say improvements. They're putting

587
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: in things like screens for fishing. They're lowering the height

588
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: of the dam. That's so people could get there. You know,

589
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: carriages across the dam looked a little better, lowering the

590
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: height of an already old feeble dam that was holding

591
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: back three billion tons of water. And then nature happened.

592
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania got I think it still maybe a record don't

593
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: quote me on that. But they got rainfall like you

594
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: can't possibly imagine where the lake was rising an inch

595
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: an hour. They're freaking out. They actually send a message

596
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: to Johnstown. It was a telegram and said evacuate the

597
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: town now this dam's gonna break. But here's the problem.

598
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: You live in Johnstown. You've heard this before. You're well

599
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: aware there's a week dam up there. And every time

600
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: a bad storm rolls in, someone sends a telegram to

601
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: evacuate the town. So you know what you don't do.

602
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: You don't evacuate the town, and people will judge them

603
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: for that. I hear this all the time when you

604
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: talk about what happened in Johnstown? How could you not evacuate,

605
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 1: especially when you talk about all the carnage that happened.

606
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: How could you die? There were kids, their families. How

607
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: could you not take that chance? And I think about, well,

608
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: when's the last time I evacuated? When I was told

609
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: to evacuate because the hurricanes coming here? I've been through several,

610
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: multiple more hurricanes than I can count, have been do

611
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: a bunch of them. Well, let's see, the last time

612
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: I evacuated would be the first time, because it's never

613
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: happened every single time. I rule my eyes at these warnings.

614
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: I go to the store. I make sure I'm stocked

615
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: up on batteries, water and nonperishable foods and beer. I

616
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: fill up my car with gas, and I watch TV

617
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: until the power goes out, and then I hang out

618
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: with my buddies in the garage, watching the storm for

619
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: an hour, and then I go to sleep. Why Because

620
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: I've been told to evacuate ten thousand times and nothing

621
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: bad has ever happened. That's why so I sympathize. However,

622
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: on May eighteen eighty nine, they got ten inches of

623
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: water in a day on an already week dam and

624
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: it blew, it blew, and I think it was three

625
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: point four it was over three billion tons of water

626
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: came pouring down towards this town, a forty foot high

627
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: tidal wave. And it's not just the water. I mean,

628
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Speaker 1: there are quotes in here. I'm reading a quote here

629
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Speaker 1: from Gertrude Quinn slatterly said quote, it was like the

630
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: day of judgment I have seen I have since seen

631
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: pictured in books, screams, cries, people running. It's not just

632
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: the water, it's that the water is picking up stuff

633
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: on the way through. By the time the water even

634
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: gets to Johnstown, how much how many trees, entire trees

635
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: are in that tidal wave. Johnstown also has a train track.

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Speaker 1: The water hits it, it's now carrying locomotives, entire locomotives.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that does damage in a forty foot

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Speaker 1: put it. Honestly, this happened. Like I said eighteen eighty nine,

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Speaker 1: four hundred kids, ninety nine entire families dawn. The country

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Speaker 1: heartbreak like that happen, people are gonna look around for

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Speaker 1: and the survivors of Johnstown start looking for a pound

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Speaker 1: of flesh. They rest their eyes on the boat law

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Speaker 1: mode of rich people who just weakened the damn that burst,

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Speaker 1: and they start suing, but they start losing. You See,

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Speaker 1: that's the thing about the law. We love, you know,

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Speaker 1: we love justice is blind, Lady Justice. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if Lady Justice is blind or not, but I know this.

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Speaker 1: If my lawyer costs a thousand dollars an hour and

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Speaker 1: your lawyer costs fifty dollars an hour, my lawyer is

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Speaker 1: going to make the jury believe that Lady Justice can

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Speaker 1: actually see. I'm not doing this whining about the rich

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Speaker 1: people thing. I don't, but it's simply a fact of life.

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Speaker 1: The people at that Hunt, Hunting, fish Club, Carnegie, Frick,

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Speaker 1: all of them. They can afford an army of the

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Speaker 1: best attorney's money can buy. The people in Johnstown can't

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Speaker 1: afford squad. So the people at the Hunt and Fish

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Speaker 1: club refused to pay a dime, and they win against

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Speaker 1: all the lawsuits put against them. Now, if I can

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Speaker 1: defend the rich people here for a moment, because this

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Speaker 1: is part of Carnegie's Carnegie's legacy is this. You read

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Speaker 1: any biography on him, they'll bring this up. It's a

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Speaker 1: big part of it. And because he was the big

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Speaker 1: national name, he was much more famous than Henry Frick.

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Speaker 1: His name was attached to this more than anyone else,

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Speaker 1: and people yell about this to this day. Don't tell

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Speaker 1: me how charitable Carnegie was held. He should have paid

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Speaker 1: those families. Maybe he should have, but hear me out

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Speaker 1: the second Carnegie strokes one check for one dollar to

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Speaker 1: one family, than what you've just done is you've told

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Speaker 1: the court system and the other families that you do

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Speaker 1: feel like you're liable. As soon as you accept the

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Speaker 1: tiniest amount of liability, they will exploit that and clean

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Speaker 1: you out. Maybe it was the right thing to start

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Speaker 1: paying those families, but financially, legally, dang sure wasn't the

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Speaker 1: smart thing, not at all. Maybe he wanted to, I

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Speaker 1: guarantee you, his lawyers pulled him aside and said, do

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Speaker 1: not do it. You can't. The rest of the vultures

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Speaker 1: will come clean you out. Nevertheless, Johnstown ugly. I would

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Speaker 1: recommend you go check it out. You'll see things like

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Speaker 1: huge trees hanging out the side of houses. It was ugly,

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Speaker 1: very ugly. Okay, So Carnegie is now persona non grata

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Speaker 1: and the public public's eyes for a while. But the

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Speaker 1: business of business doesn't stop, and he has another issue

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Speaker 1: on his hands. Remember who's running the show at Carnegie's

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Speaker 1: steel plants. He bought a huge one in Homestead, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: It's gigantic. I still think it's there to this day.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't quote me on that, but

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Speaker 1: he's churning out steel, and mister Frick is making sure

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Speaker 1: they're churning out as much steel as humanly possible, and

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Speaker 1: the costs are as low as possible. And to accomplish this,

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Speaker 1: Frick is working his men, in some cases to death.

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Speaker 1: If you ever want to be a little more pro

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Speaker 1: union than the word the day before, read how Henry

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Speaker 1: Frick treated his men twelve hour days in a steel mill,

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Speaker 1: six days a week. You don't like it, you're fired.

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Speaker 1: You don't want unions. That's how you're gonna get one.

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Speaker 1: You treat a bunch of workers like that. As you

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Speaker 1: can imagine, the workers have had about enough of this.

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Speaker 1: And there are deaths, there are injuries, And remember what

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Speaker 1: life is like if that's your job. If you wait,

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Speaker 1: maybe you work in a plant now, maybe you work

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Speaker 1: with your hands now, and God love you for it.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great living. I've already told you,

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Speaker 1: especially my oldest son, I'm pushing him that way. Well,

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Speaker 1: doing electrician, plumbing something like that. I don't look down

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Speaker 1: are awesome. And heck, you can make a boat a

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Speaker 1: little money if you still start your own little shop

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Speaker 1: doing it. Be that as it may. If you're one

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Speaker 1: of those guys and you get a nasty injury, what

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Speaker 1: if you lose a thumb, What if you lose a

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Speaker 1: hand or a foot. You're financially wiped out. Your family's

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Speaker 1: starving to death, so you want safer working conditions or

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Speaker 1: your kids don't eat. You can't look at that guy

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Speaker 1: in the face and scold him about why unions are

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Speaker 1: so bad. The workers start to organize. Frick is not

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Speaker 1: a man to abide by any of this crap at all.

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Speaker 1: Frick tells the workers, no, absolutely not. The workers tell Frick,

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Speaker 1: screw you, and now we've got a problem on our hands.

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Speaker 1: And this is my big problem with Andrew Carnegie. It's

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Speaker 1: not all the other stuff in his life. Carnegie, he's

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Speaker 1: over there in Scotland. He left the country. He's luxuriating

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Speaker 1: in Scotland specifically so he can be away from all

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Speaker 1: this conflict in a way, from the press. After Johnstown

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Speaker 1: and he's over there wanting Frick to handle things his

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Speaker 1: own way, but doesn't want to get his own hands dirty. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm above all that. We should treat the worker well.

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Speaker 1: And yet we have correspondence between Carnegie and Frick saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: get it done, get it done. So Frick gets it done.

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Speaker 1: The workers. I can't seem to get an accurate number

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Speaker 1: on this. The workers organize and they basically retreat into

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Speaker 1: the factory and shut it down. I've heard two thousand workers.

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Speaker 1: I've heard three thousand, four thousand, I've heard five thousand.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of workers. There's thousands of them. Well,

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Speaker 1: you're Henry Frick. You're not putting up with that, so

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Speaker 1: you go higher. Some people. You've probably heard of the Pinkerton's,

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Speaker 1: all that. Well, at this point in history, remember the

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Speaker 1: Pinkerton Detective Agency is so huge and wealthy and powerful.

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Speaker 1: armed Pinkerton's to come in and get rid of these

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Speaker 1: Union guys. That does not go well. There ends up

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, nine Union guys got killed,

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Speaker 1: Joining me now from the Independent Women's Forum and she

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Speaker 1: writes awesome stuff for The Federalist, and I think she

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Speaker 1: And as I loved last night's debate, I loved it.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was fantastic. I don't need the veneer

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Speaker 1: with you I care a little about at this point,

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Speaker 1: coherent point being made by anyone. It was like one

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Speaker 1: ninety six minutes of it. And I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: thought it was a totally useless debate, which I think

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Speaker 1: is kind of bad for Trump because even though I

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Speaker 1: don't think he really lost, I also don't think he

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Speaker 1: really won. And you know, at this point, if the

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Speaker 1: polls are accurate, then he you know, he needed to

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Speaker 1: turn in a performance that actually convinced folks or turned

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Speaker 1: out his own base. And I just I think everybody

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Speaker 1: ordinary tuned out of this after the first thirty to

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Speaker 1: forty minutes because they just couldn't listen to these three

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Speaker 1: guys talking over each other. Do you believe the polls?

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to believe anymore. And it's like,

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Speaker 1: I never want to be the guy who dismisses all

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Speaker 1: the pools. All the polls are lying. It's all fake news.

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Speaker 1: I think that's absurd. But at the same time, they

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Speaker 1: do you believe? I'm in your camp. I don't really

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Speaker 1: know what to believe, and I'm far from a political prognosticator,

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Speaker 1: but I would be willing to believe that the polls

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Speaker 1: are wrong by some number of points. Especially at Sean

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Speaker 1: Trendy does some fantastic work explaining why the polls actually

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Speaker 1: perennially under pole the white working class, especially in the

852
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Speaker 1: in the Rust Bell There's some like structural issues with

853
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: how they conduct the polls um and he's not convincing

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01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: the pollster. He's not convinced that that the polls have

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01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: really fixed those structural issues. So it's not that I like,

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01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: sort of poleheartedly believe the polls, but I do think

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01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: that Biden has some kind of an edge going in

858
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 1: to a lot of these states. I think it's probably

859
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Speaker 1: narrower than with the Poles show. Um. But but you know,

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Speaker 1: especially if you don't know, you've got to play like

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Speaker 1: you're behind uh. And and I'm not sure that this

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01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 1: debate really helped the president. And particularly given the way

863
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Speaker 1: that Biden is campaigning from his basement, um with calling

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Speaker 1: lives at nine thirty every other day, there might be

865
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Speaker 1: a limited number of chances he has to actually, you know,

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01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: sort of nail him to the wall on certain things.

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Speaker 1: And instead this time around, he really didn't give him

868
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: enough rope to hang himself. I think like he didn't

869
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: give Biden enough off a time to to get out,

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Speaker 1: for example, and to have to make the decision between

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01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: offending his base and offending moderates. And so I think

872
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: he could have done a better job than in allowing

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Speaker 1: Biden to actually have to answer the questions, because in

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01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: a lot of cases he didn't have to answer the

875
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: questions because Trump just interrupted him within the first two

876
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Speaker 1: words he did. He did, and I'm of two schools

877
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,839
Speaker 1: of thought on that part of it. Trump did interrupt

878
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 1: a lot, and it was annoying if you wanted to

879
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: hear what Biden say and I did. I didn't think

880
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,799
Speaker 1: Biden could get through two minutes without a bunch of screwups,

881
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 1: and he really showed that the times he did get,

882
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 1: you know, two minutes to speak. But I believe that

883
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: Trump has this philosophy of making it all about him

884
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 1: all the time. That's why every debate primary in general

885
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: has been all about Trump, and he believes that makes

886
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 1: him the winner, and so far he's been the winner

887
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: of all these you give any credence to that. I

888
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 1: think there's a difference between interrupting with something to say,

889
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: which he did sometimes. So I think there was a

890
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: segment in the middle of the debate where he especially

891
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 1: on BLM and rioting in law and order. I think

892
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: he did really well where he interrupted, but with a purpose, right,

893
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: So he would interrupt when Biden said something that wasn't

894
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: true or risk characterized something about his administration, and he

895
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: refused to shut up about some mischaracterization about him that

896
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: I think has a purpose. In the beginning of the debate,

897
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: he was just interrupting to interrupt, like he didn't give

898
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: anybody a chance to get, you know, three words out

899
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Speaker 1: before he interrupted. And it wasn't to make a particular point, right,

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Speaker 1: It wasn't for his zinger, it wasn't for like, uh,

901
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 1: you know, you're wrong, right. It was sort of just

902
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,520
Speaker 1: willy nilly, and I think it just added up to cacophony.

903
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: And I don't know about you, but when I hear

904
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: those Cable new segments, I just switched them off. Now.

905
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: I had to watch this debate because it's my job,

906
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: but if it hadn't been, I would have just switched

907
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: it off within you know, fifteen twenty thirty minutes because

908
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: I just couldn't take the like yelling over each other anymore.

909
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 1: And the thing is, you can tell that Trump's underlying

910
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: strategy was to expose, which I think is an important thing,

911
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: to expose the huge chasm between what Biden says to

912
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,839
Speaker 1: the general public or to moderate voters, and the polices

913
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 1: embraces and the winks and knots he likes to give

914
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Speaker 1: his own base, who are not happy with him at all,

915
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Speaker 1: and I think he to that extent, I think Biden

916
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,600
Speaker 1: actually put in a bad performance in the sense that,

917
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Speaker 1: you know, his denial of the existence of Antifa and

918
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 1: painting critical race theory is just this, you know, sort

919
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 1: of benign racial sensitivity training or whatever that's not going

920
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:42,799
Speaker 1: to please swing voters and moderates who are worried about

921
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 1: the rise of the woke left right. But on the

922
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Speaker 1: flip side, he described his economic plans but Wall Street

923
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 1: approved right, and he reversed himself blatantly, like obviously on

924
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Speaker 1: the New Deal. A lot of Bernie voters are not

925
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: happy with Biden to begin with, and he really kick

926
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Speaker 1: them to the curve in this debate without really turning

927
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: in a moderate performance for swing voters. So again, I

928
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Speaker 1: think if he had talked more, he would have done

929
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Speaker 1: more to kind of expose that yet and that he

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Speaker 1: really can't bridge between different parts of the left. But

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Speaker 1: he didn't get a chance to talk more. So I

932
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Speaker 1: think in that sense, uh, you know, Trump, Trump was

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Speaker 1: his own worst enemy. And as you wrote an article

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Speaker 1: I particularly loved the title called get your kids out

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Speaker 1: of government schools. Explain, Yeah, I mean, I think this

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Speaker 1: is the greatest political opportunity the right has had in

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Speaker 1: seventy years. Right, if we go back to the creation

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Speaker 1: focused on political victories, and it's ignored, I think, especially

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Speaker 1: Here in twenty twenty, virtually every institution in our life

945
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Speaker 1: and culture is not just less, but far less and

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Speaker 1: actually pushing out the less liberals now right. So like

947
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Speaker 1: media's obviously has been biased for decades and decades, Hollywood's

948
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Speaker 1: been biased for decades and only turns out movies for

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Speaker 1: Americans as a bad guys, right. And then the most

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Speaker 1: important institutions are the education system. Right. So we've been

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Speaker 1: complaining about universities for seventy years, Buckley wrote, got in

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Speaker 1: man at Yale, and we've done absolutely nothing about it

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Speaker 1: to be fund them or to make their lives difficult

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Speaker 1: in any way. In fact, we've done the office that

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Speaker 1: we've taxpayer bankrolls their entire business. System. But we've we've truly, truly,

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Speaker 1: criminally ignored the K twelve system in this country. And

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Speaker 1: I think we have a large opportunity now with the

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Speaker 1: way that a lot is school administrators and teachers unions

959
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 1: are exposing themselves as wholly political in this reopening debate.

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Speaker 1: In fact, there's very little correlation. There was a large

961
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Speaker 1: study done. The biggest correlate for schools not opening is

962
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Speaker 1: actually the power of the unions within a district. Right,

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Speaker 1: so it's not infection rate. It has nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with public health. And some of these demands from teachers

965
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Speaker 1: unions for reopening are you know, getting rid of school

966
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Speaker 1: choice programs, closing off other options for parents. In one case,

967
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Speaker 1: they demanded the police be defunded before schools can reopen. Right,

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Speaker 1: these are transparently political demands and parents are sick of it.

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Speaker 1: And I think, you know, conservatives, this is a golden

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Speaker 1: opportunity for us. We got to step right into there,

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Speaker 1: into that divide and offer parents alternatives. We got to

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Speaker 1: support them with programs on like ESA full Choice, having

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Speaker 1: got to back them up a man and Steven outstanding

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Speaker 1: as always, Thank you, ma'am, thank you. All right, we'll

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Speaker 1: you're Andrew Carnegie and Henry Frick and your Pinkerton's don't

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Speaker 1: work out, You've always got the governor on speed dial

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Speaker 1: or their version of speed dial. They get the GOV

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Speaker 1: on the phone. He calls in the militia and puts

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Speaker 1: down the strike. I'm not making that up. Well, you're

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Speaker 1: still got some real publicity problems if you're freaking Carnegie

998
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Speaker 1: because you just shot a bunch of union workers or

999
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Speaker 1: just steel workers. What you need is you need somebody

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Speaker 1: to change the mind of the public. And it just

1001
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:13,959
Speaker 1: so happens there was an anarchist movement rising in America

1002
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Speaker 1: at this time. Remember it wasn't much long after this

1003
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Speaker 1: our President McKinley was shot and killed by an anarchist.

1004
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Speaker 1: These anarchists are some violent folks, as you may have

1005
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Speaker 1: seen today. An anarchist, in response to what Frick did

1006
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Speaker 1: with the Pinkerton people, storms into Frick's office, shoots him

1007
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Speaker 1: twice in the head and neck. That like, shot him

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01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: in the ear lobe and one in the neck, and

1009
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Speaker 1: then takes a sharp and steel file and stabs him

1010
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 1: in the leg four times. Frick fights back, starts punching

1011
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 1: the guy. One of Frick's friends fight starts. They joined,

1012
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 1: They punched the guy out. Frick not only lives after

1013
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: being shot twice and stabbed four times, he's back at

1014
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 1: his desk in a week. The anarchists got twenty two

1015
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: years in prison. Just so you know. Now, that would

1016
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: just be a side story, except it completely changed public opinion.

1017
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: While the guys trying to unionize had nothing to do

1018
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:19,719
Speaker 1: with Frick getting shot, they were blamed for it. Public

1019
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: turned against them. Those guys essentially never worked again. Eventually,

1020
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Speaker 1: Andrew Carnegie runs up against a man I can't honestly

1021
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 1: tell if this was a rivalry or whether it was

1022
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Speaker 1: something welcomed by Carnegie. He runs up against a man

1023
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Speaker 1: by the name of JP Morgan, a man who has

1024
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 1: one of my favorite quotes of all time. If you

1025
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Speaker 1: have to ask the price, you probably can't afford it.

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Speaker 1: JP Morgan is a banker, but more than anything, he's

1027
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: a man who buys up mostly failing companies and turns

1028
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Speaker 1: them profitable, or buys up whole industries and streamlines them.

1029
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 1: JP Morgan. Again, I cannot tell whether or not this

1030
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 1: is a nasty rivalry or welcome JP Morgan creates the

1031
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: second biggest steel company in America, and he wants to

1032
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Speaker 1: buy the biggest one, which is Carnegie's. He tells Carnegie,

1033
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Speaker 1: make me a price. Carnegie makes him a price. I

1034
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: think it was four hundred and thirty eight million dollars,

1035
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Speaker 1: which is an absurd amount of money. Back then. JP

1036
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Speaker 1: Morgan doesn't even haggle, says absolutely, strokes Carnegie a check.

1037
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Speaker 1: Carnegie walks away from it all. Now, while Carnegie believed

1038
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: in giving his wealth away, you need to understand a

1039
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Speaker 1: couple of things. One, he obviously set aside a nice

1040
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Speaker 1: little trust so his family can live comfortably, not super wealthy,

1041
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Speaker 1: but comfortably for a while. Two, he did not believe

1042
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Speaker 1: in charities because he just believed the money would be

1043
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Speaker 1: squandered and men would just waste it. Carnegie was all

1044
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Speaker 1: about trying to give people tools to lift themselves up,

1045
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Speaker 1: which I think is really admirable. I think it's really

1046
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Speaker 1: really cool. So Carnegie built libraries everywhere. I'm talking three

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Speaker 1: thousand libraries. There's a chance if you've been in a

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Speaker 1: public library, Carnegie might have funded the thing. Universities, libraries,

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Speaker 1: places of learning. That's what Carnegie did before he eventually

1050
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Speaker 1: died of pneumonia at the age of eighty three. Funny

1051
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Speaker 1: part about that is after the whole Frick Union thing.

1052
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Speaker 1: To wrap up our story here, Carnegie blamed it on Frick.

1053
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Speaker 1: Public Lee even though Carnegie in private had encouraged Frick,

1054
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Speaker 1: they had a huge falling out. They were enemies for

1055
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Speaker 1: the rest of their lives until Carnegie's on his deathbed.

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Speaker 1: When he's on his deathbed, he wants to make amends

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Speaker 1: with everybody he's ever offended. He has a runner, go

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01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 1: meet with Frick, who still hates him. They hated each other,

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01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,560
Speaker 1: bad mouth each other public forever. Has a runner, go

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01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 1: meet Frick and ask if Frick will come meet him,

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Speaker 1: and Henry Frick responds, yes, you can tell Carnegie I'll

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01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 1: meet him, Tell him I'll see him in hell where

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01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 1: we're both going. And that is the very nitty gritty

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Speaker 1: version of Andrew Carnegie. And my big problem with him

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Speaker 1: is it's not the wages. It's not even the damn

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Speaker 1: thing john the Johnstown, damn thing. My big problem with

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Speaker 1: Carnegie is wanting something done and demanding someone else do

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Speaker 1: it because it's uncomfortable. I see way way too much

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01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: of this going on right now. It's time for some

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01:21:35,520 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 1: debate talk. Victory is uncomfortable, battle is uncomfortable, political and otherwise.

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01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 1: You know the great von Klaussa, which famously said war

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01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 1: is a continuation of politics, by other means, politics is

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01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 1: a non violence sometimes form of that. I see so

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01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 1: much perl clutching from the right today over that debate

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01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 1: last night, and specifically whining about Donald Trump bringing up

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01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 1: certain things, talking over the moderator, interrupting Joe Biden, what

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01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 1: do you think to feeding the left? Looks like we're

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01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: about to play a bunch of audio and discuss this thing.

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Speaker 1: But let me ask you while while we're in this break,

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01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: let me ask you, do you genuinely believe defeating the

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01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 1: left will be polite and easy? Hang on, this is

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01:23:52,000 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 1: the Jesse Kelly Show. This is the Jesse Kelly Show.

1083
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 1: Do you want to know why producer Chris has to

1084
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 1: edit emails to important people for me before I send

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01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: them off? Because I lack the ability to sugarcoat things

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01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 1: sometimes when I have to, and it's not that I

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01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 1: can't do it, I find doing it disgusting. I don't

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01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 1: enjoy the veneer of civility if we hate each other

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01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 1: or if I have a problem with you, I've never

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01:24:56,200 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. That's why one I enjoyed last night a

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Speaker 1: great deal. Everybody complaining about the food fight and name

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01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 1: calling and interrupting, that's how all those people talk about

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01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,879
Speaker 1: each other as soon as the cameras are off behind

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01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 1: their backs. So I don't need you to smile with

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01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:22,560
Speaker 1: your hair made of wood. I need you to just

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01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 1: let me know how you really feel. Joe Biden thinks

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01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's an idiot. Donald Trump thinks Joe Biden's a

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01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 1: corrupt scumbag. Chris Wallace hates Donald Trump scuts and I'm

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01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 1: fine with that because y'all told me so last night.

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Speaker 1: That works for me. That's one two. I don't pine

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01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 1: for the old days. That are a total lie that

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01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 1: you've invented in your mind of polite politics. Politics has

1103
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 1: never been polite. And stop pointing out Mitt Romney, that

1104
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 1: fake scumbag is admouth and everybody at least in his mind,

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Speaker 1: or at least a family and friends with that nice smile.

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01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 1: And I'm just a grandpa. Oh shut up, no you aren't.

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01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 1: I don't need you to lie to me. I don't

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01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 1: need you to make it look nice. I don't care

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Speaker 1: that it was a big, ugly food fight. I don't

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01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,639
Speaker 1: hold these people up to be loftier than they are.

1111
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 1: They're politicians, and when they argue about politics, in their mind,

1112
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 1: they're arguing the exact way you and your buddies and

1113
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 1: you and your neighbors argue about politics. They interrupt each other,

1114
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 1: they think each other are stupid, They tell each other

1115
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 1: to shut up. I don't need to be lied to.

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01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 1: I don't need that at all. I don't need it

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Speaker 1: at all. I need I need people to say they're

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Speaker 1: honest opinions. And I need Republicans and people on the

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01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: right to be willing to say uncomfortable things, because it

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Speaker 1: will not be comfortable defeating the left. If you think

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Speaker 1: it will, it's time for you to grow up. I

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01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 1: need things like this, Nina ate your lunch show, and

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01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:24,519
Speaker 1: no wonder your son goes in and he takes out

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01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 1: he takes out billions of dollars, takes out billions of

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01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 1: dollars to manage, he makes millions of dollars. And also,

1126
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 1: why we're at it? Why is it just out of curiosity?

1127
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 1: The mayor of Moscow's wife gave you a son three

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01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: and a half million dollars. Why did he do to

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01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 1: deserve it? What did he do with Barish? Yeah, it

1130
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:53,680
Speaker 1: is true, and I immediately saw Republicans. Oh that's out

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01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 1: of bounds. Why is it out of bounds. Why do

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01:27:56,960 --> 01:28:00,560
Speaker 1: you think defeating the left is polite and easy. It's not.

1133
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 1: Nothing worthwhile is polite and easy. Think about Think about America.

1134
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: Think about the moments that pop into your head. If

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Speaker 1: I were to ask you, list me a few of

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Speaker 1: what you think are the greatest moments in American history.

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01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: What are they? You know, we're all We're all gonna

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01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 1: have the same few things. You know? Or the Revolution,

1139
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 1: the American standing up to the British. The American Revolution

1140
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 1: was not fought by jotting down the Declaration of Independence

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01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:42,640
Speaker 1: and signing your name on it. The American Revolution was

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01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: fought by firing musket balls into people's faces and watching

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01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 1: them die as they called for their mommy. The D

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Speaker 1: Day Invasion, the Greatest Generation st arming the beaches of

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01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 1: Normandy and then firing flamethrowers into Nazi pillboxes and watching

1146
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 1: people burn alive and scream. Getting things done is uncomfortable.

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01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:24,600
Speaker 1: There's not a comfortable way to storm the beaches of

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01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 1: Normandy to fight an American revolution. It's uncomfortable. Beating the

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01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 1: Left will not look nice. This absurd myth we have

1150
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 1: about the gentleman warrior. They all look like George Washington

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01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 1: sitting atop a noble steed, just got time, just got

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01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 1: done with Bible study, and now he's off to fight

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01:29:56,000 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 1: the British politely. You need to do more reading on

1154
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 1: George Washington. Defeating the Left is going to be in polite.

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01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 1: It's going to be uncomfortable. Maybe Donald Trump isn't your

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01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 1: preferred messenger for it. This isn't some full throated defense

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01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:25,679
Speaker 1: of everything Trump. You know, I don't waive anybody's pom

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01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 1: poms on this show, but things like that are what

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01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 1: it's going to look like. Period. That's what it's going

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01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 1: to look like. You don't like that Donald Trump interrupted,

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01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 1: Joe Biden, interrupted Chris Wallace the whole night. You know

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01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 1: what the alternative is? You sit there, politely, like a

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01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 1: noble gentleman and watch the moderator who hates your guts

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01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:54,559
Speaker 1: defend Joe Biden and stomp on you all night long.

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01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 1: Either you step in and takeover, or he steps in

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01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 1: and dominates. You have two choices. There's not a third.

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01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 1: Donald Trump did it right. Now. Let's go through a

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01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 1: couple quotes here. Let's begin with well, let's just start

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01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 1: pulling some random ones and I'll tell you my thoughts

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Speaker 1: they will under my proposals, not what you've said, and

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01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 1: it's not what wants to go. Socialist party is socialist now.

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01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 1: I am. I am the Democratic Party right now. The

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01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 1: platform of the party is what I in fact approved of.

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01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 1: I am the Democratic Party right now. Even Joe Biden

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01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:50,600
Speaker 1: didn't sound like he believed that, and Donald Trump interrupting

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01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 1: him saying, they're gonna dominate you. Joe again, that's not presidential.

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Speaker 1: That's uncomfortable. It's also true, and everybody in America needed

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01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:05,560
Speaker 1: to hear it. And there's not another person in America,

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01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 1: definitely not Chris freaking Wallace who's going to inform America

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01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 1: that that's true. Nobody is. It's gonna get uncomfortable, and

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01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 1: you and I have to become comfortable with uncomfortable. It's

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01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 1: just the bottom line, all right, what's the next one.

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01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 1: We're ending the feliboster or packing the cooever position I take,

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01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 1: and that that'll become the issue. The issue is the

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01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:43,639
Speaker 1: American people should speak. You should go out and vote.

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01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 1: You're in voting, now, vote and let your senators know

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01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 1: how you get on, how you feel. Let vote now.

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01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 1: Make sure you in fact let people know Senator, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to answer the question because the question is

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01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 1: the question is left shut out. Listen, who is on

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01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 1: your list? Joe? This is your gentlemen. I think this

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01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 1: is We're not We have ended the segment. We're gonna

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01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 1: move on to the second segment. That was really a

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01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 1: productive segment. Why keep happening? Man? The people understand you.

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01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 1: Forty seven years you've done nothing. They understood. All right?

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01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 1: All true. If Donald Trump doesn't interrupt there and press

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01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 1: him on that question, who else does? Oh buddy, hang

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01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 1: on that fan in my truck that you've heard me

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01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:52,760
Speaker 1: talk about before, that gives your problems? Oh yeah, it's back.

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01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 1: And my electrical problem in my truck. You remember me

1201
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 1: talking about that too? Cost me five six hundred bucks

1202
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 1: last time. It's back to only. I'm done stressing about it.

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01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 1: You remember how mad I was before I'm done stressing

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01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 1: about it. I have Carshield now. Carshield is America's number

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01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 1: one auto protection company, and I don't have to stress

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01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 1: the payments either, because the payments are flexible and customizable

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01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 1: to meet your exact needs. Carshield lets me go pick

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01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:25,719
Speaker 1: whatever mechanic I want. They let me go pick whatever

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01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 1: dealership I want, and if my car breaks down when

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01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:30,720
Speaker 1: I'm out there on the road, when I'm traveling, I

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01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 1: can pick one out there on the road too. They'll

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01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 1: take care of you. Trust me on that. Go to

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Speaker 1: carshield dot com now while you're there, used to code Jesse.

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Speaker 1: That saves you ten percent Carshield dot com. Jesse. Kelly

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01:34:49,840 --> 01:35:19,719
Speaker 1: backs in. Let me defend. Don't throw things at the radio.

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01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:23,640
Speaker 1: Allow me to defend Chris Wallace for a moment. Who

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01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 1: I know you all hate today more than you hated

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01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:33,599
Speaker 1: the day before. Chris Wallace hates Donald Trump. Scutts Chris

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01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 1: Wallace defended Joe Biden and when after Donald Trump all

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01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:42,800
Speaker 1: night long? YEP, one hundred percent true. Wallace is clearly

1221
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:47,440
Speaker 1: a leftist with his defensive critical race theory, his defensive

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01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 1: man made climate change, and all these other things. One

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01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 1: hundred percent true. I'm not going to argue against any

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01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:57,679
Speaker 1: of that. What I am going to say is this one.

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01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 1: Being a moderator of a debate is the most thankless

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01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 1: job in America, this side of working the lost luggage

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01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 1: counter at the airport. When is the last time? Be honest,

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01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:18,759
Speaker 1: you don't even have to tell me. Although You're welcome

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01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 1: to Jesse at Jesse Kelly Show dot com. Jesse at

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01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly show dot com. Be honest, right now, when

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01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:30,679
Speaker 1: is the last time you watched a debate and said

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01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 1: to yourself or your friends, man, that moderator did a

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01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:40,560
Speaker 1: great job. Never don't lie. You've never once said it.

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Speaker 1: It's completely thankless. Either you don't have enough control, or

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01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 1: you take too much control, or you're attacking the other

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01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 1: guy too much, or not letting your guy speaking of

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01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 1: it's it's a completely thankless job that's impossible to do

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01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 1: and satisfy others. That's one reason I'm defending Wallace, and

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01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:05,599
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm defending Wallace today. The second reason

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01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:10,040
Speaker 1: is this, if you take the job of being a moderator,

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01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 1: and let's all just agree it's a completely thankless job,

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01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 1: because I'm right it is. Now you need to go

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01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 1: ahead and magnify that nine thousand times if you're the

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01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 1: moderator for a debate that Donald Trump is involved in.

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01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, I one hundred percent believe this is intentional

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01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 1: by now dominates the headlines and the TV time of

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01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 1: every debate he's ever been in by a mile. I

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01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 1: believe He does it on purpose. I believe even when

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Speaker 1: his opponents do something dumb or are about to say

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01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 1: something dumb, Donald Trump will step in to talk over them,

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01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 1: just so everyone will focus on him more, be it

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01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 1: positive or negative. Donald Trump believes in owning the conversation

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01:37:56,960 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 1: last night? Who was that entire debate about Donald Trump?

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01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 1: Everyone knows it, good or bad. The entire debate was

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01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:08,760
Speaker 1: about Donald Trump. He does it on purpose. He did

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01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,559
Speaker 1: it clear back in the GOP primary when they were

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01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:13,600
Speaker 1: eight or nine people in the field. You remember that

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Speaker 1: they'd have a whole stage of nine people and Trump

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01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 1: would get like half the talk time. And even if

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Speaker 1: they didn't call on him, Trump had just start talking

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Speaker 1: and the moderator would step in. It's actually his turn. Yeah,

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01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 1: but I'm not finished yet, and trumpad just keep going.

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Speaker 1: And what do you want the moderator to do? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can yell all day long. Chris Wallace should have

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Speaker 1: controlled things more. What do you want him to do?

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Speaker 1: Hook up a shot caller to him unless you're going

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Speaker 1: to cut off as Mike, and even that might not work.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to control when Donald Trump speaks. He's

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Speaker 1: not going to let you. There's nothing Wallace can do

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Speaker 1: about Donald Trump interrupting all night long. Now again, when

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Speaker 1: I say defend Chris Wallace, I'm simply defending the job

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Speaker 1: he did last night. Kind of. He also had some

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Speaker 1: moments that were completely indefensible as a moderator. But I

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Speaker 1: don't like to nitpick moderators. But when Chris Wallace brought

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Speaker 1: up to Joe Biden that you ran because of Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump's very fine people statements, when Chris Wallace knows for

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Speaker 1: a fact that is a lie and a lie that

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Speaker 1: Democrats have repeated all the time. We've played for you

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Speaker 1: a thousand times on this show what Trump really said.

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Speaker 1: For Chris Wallace to repeat a lie that he knows

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Speaker 1: as a lie and present it to Joe Biden as

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Speaker 1: a fact, that is embarrassing. That was a terrible embarrassing

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Speaker 1: moment for Wallace. All right. Now, we did get to

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Speaker 1: some substance on some things, and I actually to say

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Speaker 1: one nice thing about Biden as well. I thought it

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Speaker 1: was effective. I thought Biden did okay compared to how

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Speaker 1: I thought he would you do at the end. I

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Speaker 1: thought he would run, Remember God, I thought the drugs

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Speaker 1: would wear off. I thought he did okay, and I

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Speaker 1: thought he's looking at the camera and speaking right to you,

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Speaker 1: speaking right to me. I thought that was effective. I

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Speaker 1: like when candidates do that. Trump didn't do that at all.

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Speaker 1: Biden did. I liked it a lot. Now I'll be

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Speaker 1: very very interested. It's not like you can get any

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Speaker 1: straight information anymore, but I'll be very interested in how

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Speaker 1: the American people responded to this whole exchange. And he

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Speaker 1: wants to close down, he will shut it down again.

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Speaker 1: He will destroy this country. You know a lot of

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Speaker 1: people between drugs and alcohol and depression. When you start

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Speaker 1: shutting it down. You take a look at what's happening

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Speaker 1: at some of your Democrat run states where they have

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Speaker 1: these tough shutdowns, and I'm telling you it's because they

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Speaker 1: don't want to open it. One of them came out

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Speaker 1: last week. You saw that, Oh, we're going to open

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Speaker 1: up in November ninth. One November ninth, because it's after

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Speaker 1: the election. They think they're hurting us by keeping them close.

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Speaker 1: They're hurting people. People know what to do. They can

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Speaker 1: social distance, they can wash the hands, they can wear

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Speaker 1: a mask, they can do whatever they want. But they

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Speaker 1: got to open the states up. When you look at

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Speaker 1: North Carolina, when you look and these governors are under

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Speaker 1: siege Pennsylvania, Michigan and a couple of others. You're going

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Speaker 1: to open the states up. It's not fair. You're talking

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Speaker 1: about almost it's like being in prison. And you look

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Speaker 1: at what's going on with divorce, look at what's going

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Speaker 1: on with alcoholism and drugs. It's a very very sad thing.

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Speaker 1: And he'll close down the whole country. This guy will

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Speaker 1: close down the whole country and destroy our country. Our

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Speaker 1: country is coming back incredibly well, setting records as it

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Speaker 1: does it. We don't need somebody to come in and say,

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Speaker 1: let's shut it down. I wonder how that's going to play.

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Speaker 1: Because Trump is right obviously the things trump a Trump

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Speaker 1: is saying there are music to my years and stuff

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Speaker 1: I've been screaming for a long time. But Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: is the wear a mask everywhere, shut the country down candidate.

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Speaker 1: He said that on the campaign trail. Donald Trump has

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Speaker 1: clearly chosen the opposite path. This is an issue where

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Speaker 1: I'm genuinely curious where the American people fall. I know

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Speaker 1: where I fall, and I fall there strongly. However, I

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Speaker 1: look around, man, and I see a lot of people

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Speaker 1: still buying into the hype, and I mean a lot

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Speaker 1: of people. Is Donald Trump viewed as irresponsible for what

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Speaker 1: he said? One more thing before I get to the

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Speaker 1: rest of the audio we have and whatnot. I don't

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Speaker 1: understand political people who watched things like that debate last

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Speaker 1: night and whine about it. And I saw this all

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Speaker 1: over social media, all over the place. I hate this. Oh,

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Speaker 1: somebody kill me now. Ah, this is the worst thing ever, buddy.

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Speaker 1: That's as fun as politics gets. If you watched last night,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not actually trying to be mean for once,

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Speaker 1: If you watched last night and you didn't get any

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Speaker 1: enjoyment out of that, and that made you miserable to watch,

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01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 1: you need to take a break from politics or walk

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01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:32,680
Speaker 1: away completely because this ain't this game, ain't for you.

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Speaker 1: That's politics, man, that's politics. Politics is a contact sport.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how we have lied to ourselves that

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Speaker 1: it should all just be this, this wave of politeness.

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Speaker 1: Politics is a contact spot. You remember that story I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to name the names because I'm gonna screw

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01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 1: him up of a guy from the South approaching a

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Speaker 1: guy from the New Horse. This is during the Civil

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Speaker 1: War era, and the guy from the South was upset

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Speaker 1: about something the guy from the north and said, and

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Speaker 1: he took his cane and beat the guy from the

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Speaker 1: north almost to death with it on the floor of

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Speaker 1: the house. The guy from the South goes back to

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Speaker 1: his office, waits around for a few days, and starts

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01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:23,440
Speaker 1: getting canes and the mail mailed to him by his supporters,

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Speaker 1: who loved what he did, sending him new canes. It's politics, man,

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Speaker 1: I know you've done the smart thing with your money.

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Speaker 1: You've set aside some money as much as you possibly can,

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Speaker 1: maybe a lot, maybe a little, and you've invested it

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Speaker 1: in stocks and bonds. And I support you do that.

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Speaker 1: We all want to retire one day, right, even me.

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Speaker 1: I love my job. One day I would like to

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Speaker 1: just go ahead and retire, I'm sure, But please tell

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Speaker 1: me you don't have every dime of yours in stocks

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Speaker 1: and bonds. You have to have a gold Ira from

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Speaker 1: Gold Alliance as part of your portfolio. Not the whole portfolio,

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Speaker 1: but part of your portfolio has to be a gold Ira.

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Speaker 1: It just does you know what the Feds have done

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Speaker 1: with money right They're printing it by the trillion unbacked.

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Speaker 1: That story only ends one way, and we all know

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Speaker 1: what that way is not to gold Alliance dot com

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Speaker 1: coins Gold Alliance dot Com slash Jesse. Well, Chris, Chris

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Speaker 1: brings up a point about cutting off the mic. He

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Speaker 1: thinks they should be able to cut off the mic.

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Speaker 1: And as I said, one, that wouldn't stop Trump from talking.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't. He would just keep talking, he'd talk louder one. Two.

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Speaker 1: It is a tough spot if you're a moderator and

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Speaker 1: you're dealing with the president of the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: I understand you're Chris Wallace. You hate Trump's guts. You

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Speaker 1: made that very obvious. Everyone knows that. But he's still

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Speaker 1: the president of the United States of America. You cut

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Speaker 1: off a man's mic. That's How's that any different than

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Speaker 1: saying shut up? Honestly, it's probably worse right now. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you hate Trump, maybe you hated Obama. I hated Obama,

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Speaker 1: hated still hate UM. I would never shout at Barack

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Speaker 1: Obama to shut up. In fact, I don't think i'd

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Speaker 1: say that to another human being period, let alone the

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Speaker 1: president of the United States of America. Maybe I'm wrong

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Speaker 1: in that. Maybe I'm weird, but I don't know that

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Speaker 1: you can if you're Chris Wallace. Okay, you're done talking

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Speaker 1: Bip Mike off right? You see what I mean? Chris,

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Speaker 1: that's quite that's quite a step, he stays. Look vice

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Speaker 1: versa with Joe Biden. I don't like Joe Biden, but

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Speaker 1: he was a United States senator for nine thousand years

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Speaker 1: and vice president for eight years. Can I just hammer

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Speaker 1: the mic off button? Now? That's a good idea. Chris

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Speaker 1: just had the first good idea he's ever had on

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Speaker 1: the show. He said, what if the mic is on

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01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:57,400
Speaker 1: a timer? Now? That might work? Actually, that really might work. However, again,

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Speaker 1: I don't mean to just nitpick all your ideas here, Chris. However,

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Speaker 1: don't you like the free flow of it a little more?

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Speaker 1: I do? Again, maybe I'm weird in that I like it.

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Speaker 1: Let's just have a good brawl out here. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: just have a good brawl. I mean, I liked moments

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Speaker 1: like this from Trump last night, when he was making

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Speaker 1: fun of of of Biden's record and doing basically nothing.

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Speaker 1: Let me just tell you, Joe, I've done more in

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Speaker 1: forty seven months, I've done more than you've done in

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Speaker 1: forty seven years, Joe. We've done things that you never

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Speaker 1: even thought of, included mixing the broken military that you

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Speaker 1: gave me. True, Absolutely true. Donald Trump has accomplished a

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Speaker 1: lot as president. Now you can argue, well, it's a

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Speaker 1: little unfair when you have the power of the presidency

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Speaker 1: and Joe Biden, but what it really points out is this,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden was a do nothing senator forever. You never

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Speaker 1: heard Joe Biden's name. Forty years in the United States

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Speaker 1: Senate and you didn't know Joe Biden's name. Even if

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Speaker 1: you're a total political nerd, which you probably are, you

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Speaker 1: didn't know Joe Biden's name until Barack Obama chose Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden to be his vice president. I couldn't name you

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Speaker 1: all hundred senators I talked politics for four hours a day.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I could name thirty of them.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I could. Right, you didn't know Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: He was another no name nobody. You had no idea

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Speaker 1: who Joe Biden was because he never did anything. And

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Speaker 1: isn't that the biggest indictment on Joe Biden what have

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Speaker 1: you done? How are you running? You know, because you're

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Speaker 1: always running for president when you're trying to unseat somebody,

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Speaker 1: running for any office, when you're trying to unseat somebody,

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Speaker 1: you're always running as the I'm the change we need.

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Speaker 1: Obama was great at that. I'm change, hoping change, change, change, change.

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Speaker 1: I mean they all everyone runs onto some version of that.

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Speaker 1: When you're trying to unseat someone. How can Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: run unchanging anything? Brother, You've already been there forever, forever. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: think about that. Trump? You know what? He brought up

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Speaker 1: something good too about pharma, and he brought up something

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Speaker 1: good about Wallace. And I want you to listen to this,

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Speaker 1: and if you're ever considering running for office, I want

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Speaker 1: you to listen and take notes and pay attention, because

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Speaker 1: this is how it's done. You, in the course of

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Speaker 1: these four years, have never come up with a comprehensive

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Speaker 1: plan to replace Obamacare. And just this last Thursday, you

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Speaker 1: signed a largely symbolic executive order to protect people with

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Speaker 1: pre existing conditions, five days before this debate. So my question, sir,

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Speaker 1: is what is the Trump healthcare plan? Well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm debating you, not him. But that's okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. Let me just tell you something that

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Speaker 1: there's nothing symbolic. I'm cutting drug prices. I'm going with

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Speaker 1: favorite nations, which no president has a courage to do

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Speaker 1: because you're going against big Pharma. He was right. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm debating you, Chris. But it doesn't pay to complain

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Speaker 1: about it. It pays to be ready for it. If

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Speaker 1: you're a Republican running for office, you debate the moderators.

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Speaker 1: And this isn't unique to presidential races. Remember I've done

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Speaker 1: multiple political debates on stage in front of crowd in

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Speaker 1: my life, in my two runs for Congress, huge primary debates,

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Speaker 1: huge general election debates against the Democrat, and in the

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Speaker 1: general election debates against the Democrat. You're hated by everyone.

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Speaker 1: The first general election debate, I bet it's still online somewhere, Chris,

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Speaker 1: who should pull some audio from it somewhere. The first

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Speaker 1: general election I ever did debate I ever did against

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Speaker 1: Gabrielle Gifford's It was the nominee, she's the Democrat. There

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Speaker 1: was some libertarian out there, Steve Stults I think was

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Speaker 1: his name, and we were at the University of Arizona

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Speaker 1: for the debate, and so you can imagine what the

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Speaker 1: environment was like at the university. They were spitting at

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Speaker 1: me and screaming at me, and the moderators hated me.

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Speaker 1: And you can see if you pull the audio or

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Speaker 1: if it still exists out there, you'll see I had

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Speaker 1: this gigantic, blank eating grin on my face the whole

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Speaker 1: time because I thought it was absolutely fantastic. Are they

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Speaker 1: yelled at me, the more I was enjoying myself and

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Speaker 1: it was hilarious. But that's because mentally I knew what

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Speaker 1: it was going to be before I got out there,

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Speaker 1: and I reveled in it. I enjoyed it, and you

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01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:20,720
Speaker 1: have to have that mentality going forward. You do. The

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Speaker 1: mentality going forward is I'm going to take on the

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Speaker 1: moderator and the other candidate. That's life. That's how it's

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Speaker 1: going to be. But back to what I was saying before,

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Speaker 1: in the coming years, there are going to be more

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Speaker 1: heated political fights. What you're seeing right now with Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are confusing what they're seeing.

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Speaker 1: What you're seeing with the violent leftists in the streets

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Speaker 1: and the more in your face Donald Trump way of politics.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people they get uncomfortable. It's

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Speaker 1: human nature to get uncomfortable with conflict, and they want

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Speaker 1: it to end. They just they just want to get

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Speaker 1: past all this. I've actually had people tell me I

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Speaker 1: almost I almost wish Biden would win, just so all

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Speaker 1: this will quiet down again. You have to set that aside.

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Speaker 1: There is no quieting down again. This is how it

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Speaker 1: has to be. In fact, if it quiets down again,

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Speaker 1: that means we're losing. You can't have it quiet, You

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Speaker 1: simply can't. You can't have it quiet. Quyat means we lose.

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Speaker 1: And the Democrats, like we've talked about all the time,

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Speaker 1: Democrats mean what they say. Why do you think Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden wouldn't answer that question about packing the core last night?

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's because he had some less than

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Speaker 1: radical solution? Hang on? Is he smarter than everyone who knows?

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Speaker 1: Does he think so? Yeah? That Jesse Kelly Shaw Home

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Speaker 1: six months ago. And I will tell you I didn't

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Speaker 1: even know what home Title theft was. I had no

1510
01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:59,040
Speaker 1: idea it was the cyber crime of the day. You

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Speaker 1: asked the FB which one are they worried about. It's

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Speaker 1: home title theft. And I didn't know. I had no idea.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize my home title was just sitting out

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Speaker 1: there online. I thought it was a piece of paper

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Speaker 1: sitting in a bank fault. Nope, it's online. And it's

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Speaker 1: so easy for these cyber criminals to hack into it,

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Speaker 1: forge your signature on it. They forged mine, and they

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Speaker 1: forged my wife's on the home title and it looked real,

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Speaker 1: to be honest, when I first saw it, I thought

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Speaker 1: it was real. I was that confused. Take a loan

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Speaker 1: Home title lock dot com. Don't forget to use the

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Speaker 1: code radio gets you thirty three days at protection. Democrats

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Speaker 1: mean what they say, and we are going to enter

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Speaker 1: a different time period here, and I don't want you

1527
01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:19,600
Speaker 1: to be see this is what's happening because people are

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01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:22,880
Speaker 1: uncomfortable with conflict and things, and I get that as

1529
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:27,800
Speaker 1: human nature. It's creating so much anxiety and stress with people.

1530
01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:30,480
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many text messages I get

1531
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:32,840
Speaker 1: from friends of man. Are we gonna be okay? It's

1532
01:57:32,880 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 1: everything gonna be I'm so nervous about buddy. I know

1533
01:57:38,160 --> 01:57:42,160
Speaker 1: the stakes are high. You cannot let this stuff consume you.

1534
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:48,640
Speaker 1: You simply have to accept things, except that things have changed.

1535
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 1: When they talk like this, they mean it. I just

1536
01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 1: don't even know why there aren't uprisings all of the country.

1537
01:57:58,080 --> 01:58:00,920
Speaker 1: Maybe there will be. People need to start taking to

1538
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:04,040
Speaker 1: the streets. This is a dictator. You know. There needs

1539
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:05,800
Speaker 1: to be unrest in the streets for as long as

1540
01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:09,480
Speaker 1: there's unrest in our lives. Enemies of the state. Show

1541
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:11,400
Speaker 1: me where it says that protests are supposed to be

1542
01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:17,600
Speaker 1: polite and peaceful. Do something about your dad's immigrational practices effectless, hearty,

1543
01:58:17,680 --> 01:58:20,640
Speaker 1: go low kid? How do you resist the temptation to

1544
01:58:20,760 --> 01:58:22,880
Speaker 1: run up and ring her neck? The biggest terror threat

1545
01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:27,840
Speaker 1: in this country is white men, most of them radicalized

1546
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:29,840
Speaker 1: up to the right. I thought he should have punched

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01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:31,520
Speaker 1: him in the face. And even if you lost. He

1548
01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:33,600
Speaker 1: insulted your wife. He was king on the escalator and

1549
01:58:33,640 --> 01:58:35,480
Speaker 1: called Mexican's rapist and earth. He said, well, what do

1550
01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:36,480
Speaker 1: you think I should have done? So I think you

1551
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:38,000
Speaker 1: should punch him in the face and then got out

1552
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:39,880
Speaker 1: of the race. You would have been a hero. I'd

1553
01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:41,840
Speaker 1: like to punch him in the face, I said, if

1554
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:43,440
Speaker 1: we're in high school, I'd take him behind the gym

1555
01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:46,360
Speaker 1: and beat the hell out of him. Put some people

1556
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:49,400
Speaker 1: in the face. Who was the last time an actor

1557
01:58:49,480 --> 01:58:51,960
Speaker 1: assassinated a president? They're still going to have to go

1558
01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:53,840
Speaker 1: out and put a bullet in Donald Trump. And that's

1559
01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 1: a fact. Look as his character is stabbed to death,

1560
01:58:57,360 --> 01:59:00,920
Speaker 1: where is John Wilkes booth when you need? I have

1561
01:59:01,160 --> 01:59:05,320
Speaker 1: thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House.

1562
01:59:06,040 --> 01:59:09,760
Speaker 1: The Missouri state senator is under investigation by the Secret

1563
01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:13,960
Speaker 1: Service after seeing she hopes President Trump is assassinated. I

1564
01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:16,960
Speaker 1: will go and take Trump out tonight. And if you

1565
01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:21,720
Speaker 1: see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a

1566
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:26,400
Speaker 1: department store, at a gasol station, you get out and

1567
01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:30,240
Speaker 1: you create a glow, and you pushed back on them,

1568
01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:35,240
Speaker 1: and you tell them that I will gun you anymore anywhere.

1569
01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:39,560
Speaker 1: And sadly, the domestic enemies to our voting system and

1570
01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:45,160
Speaker 1: are honoring our constitution right at sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue.

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01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:47,680
Speaker 1: They're not going to stop before election day in November,

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01:59:47,720 --> 01:59:50,200
Speaker 1: and they're not going to stop after election day. And

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01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:52,720
Speaker 1: that should be everyone should take note of that on

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01:59:52,880 --> 01:59:55,520
Speaker 1: both levels, that this isn't They're not gonna let up,

1575
01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:58,400
Speaker 1: and they should not. If you think, well, well you're now,

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01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:04,480
Speaker 1: you ain't say nothing yet they mean it, and you

1577
02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:08,000
Speaker 1: don't have to stress about it. And let me tell

1578
02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 1: you something else. I'm not trying to make it worse

1579
02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:15,080
Speaker 1: for you. But how do you think they're going to

1580
02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:22,040
Speaker 1: react if Donald Trump gets reelected? They're going to lose

1581
02:00:22,280 --> 02:00:28,200
Speaker 1: their collective minds. Let's put it to you this way, Chris,

1582
02:00:28,720 --> 02:00:32,120
Speaker 1: do me a favor as quickly as possible. Pull me

1583
02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:38,520
Speaker 1: up the two oldest Supreme Court justices. Right now, we're

1584
02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:44,000
Speaker 1: about to have a six three majority on the Supreme Court.

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02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:50,240
Speaker 1: What if Donald Trump gets elected for four more years

1586
02:00:51,120 --> 02:00:54,960
Speaker 1: and does a couple of obvious things. One, he'll replace

1587
02:00:55,120 --> 02:00:58,920
Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas. Clarence Thomas is our greatest Supreme Court judge

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02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:02,160
Speaker 1: in my mind, and we'll do the patriotic thing and

1589
02:01:02,280 --> 02:01:04,680
Speaker 1: retire to make sure Trump gets to replace him and

1590
02:01:04,760 --> 02:01:07,920
Speaker 1: not a Democrat. Okay, so that just solidifies the sixty

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02:01:07,960 --> 02:01:14,680
Speaker 1: three even more. What if What if Trump gets to

1592
02:01:14,800 --> 02:01:26,480
Speaker 1: replace another one? What if he does? Stephen Bryers eighty

1593
02:01:26,520 --> 02:01:32,960
Speaker 1: two years old, eighty two years old. If Donald Trump

1594
02:01:33,080 --> 02:01:38,640
Speaker 1: gets elected for four more years, there's a chance the

1595
02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:42,720
Speaker 1: Supreme Court is seven to two by the time he leaves,

1596
02:01:43,680 --> 02:01:46,600
Speaker 1: and not only seven to two. Remember when you replace them,

1597
02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:52,000
Speaker 1: because they're these idiotic lifetime appointments. You're facing thirty years

1598
02:01:52,240 --> 02:01:56,520
Speaker 1: of that guy on the court. How bad do you

1599
02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:59,560
Speaker 1: think the left is going to get to defend that,

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02:02:01,400 --> 02:02:07,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose their minds. I'm not trying to freak

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02:02:07,480 --> 02:02:11,640
Speaker 1: you out. I'm trying to let you know this is

1602
02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:16,880
Speaker 1: how it is now. This is how it is now.

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02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:20,240
Speaker 1: This is the new era. That debate you saw last night.

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02:02:22,280 --> 02:02:26,720
Speaker 1: That's how it is. That's the way it is. The

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02:02:26,920 --> 02:02:34,520
Speaker 1: era of politeness and niceness, man, that's stuff one. It

1606
02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:38,720
Speaker 1: was never really an era anyway. In two, that's always

1607
02:02:38,800 --> 02:02:44,840
Speaker 1: just a temporary phase. You know, who's nice the guy

1608
02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:48,480
Speaker 1: who's won and knows it or the guy who's lost

1609
02:02:48,680 --> 02:02:53,160
Speaker 1: and knows it. When you're actually fighting for power, it's

1610
02:02:53,240 --> 02:02:59,880
Speaker 1: not nice anymore. Email me Jesse at Jesse Kelly showed

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Speaker 1: dot com, Jesse at Jesse Kelly Show dot Com. I'd

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Speaker 1: read them all hang on. As you know, I'm not

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02:03:41,240 --> 02:03:46,040
Speaker 1: what you'd call an academic, and so I come to

1614
02:03:46,160 --> 02:03:51,200
Speaker 1: the show completely unprepared every day. And this has happened

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02:03:51,240 --> 02:03:54,120
Speaker 1: to me a few times. I had no idea we

1616
02:03:54,200 --> 02:03:58,000
Speaker 1: were at the end of the show. Chris just coolt

1617
02:03:58,120 --> 02:04:01,000
Speaker 1: told me coming back from break and I was all, wait, oh,

1618
02:04:02,200 --> 02:04:06,000
Speaker 1: oh crap. You know what. We're gonna start getting organized

1619
02:04:06,040 --> 02:04:08,480
Speaker 1: on this show. We're gonna get a schedule. I'm gonna

1620
02:04:08,480 --> 02:04:11,800
Speaker 1: start doing a lot of homework in preparation. Things are

1621
02:04:11,840 --> 02:04:16,280
Speaker 1: gonna change, Chris, They're gonna change real Suit. You can

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Speaker 1: catch the whole show. It's all podcasted right after the

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Speaker 1: you know, I read the great ones on the air

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Speaker 1: in Man, you guys kill me, Kill me? All right,

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Speaker 1: heke Heart, You're gonna be fine. That's all the Jesse

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Speaker 1: Kelly Show. On The Jordan Harbinger Show, you'll hear amazing

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Speaker 1: stories from people that have lived them, from spies to CEOs,

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Speaker 1: even an undercover agent who infiltrated the Gambino crime family.

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Speaker 1: You're about to hear a preview of The Jordan Harbinger

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Speaker 1: Show with Jack Garcia, who did just that. My career

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Speaker 1: was twenty four out of twenty six years was solely

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Speaker 1: dedicated working on the cover. I walk in. I'm in

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Speaker 1: the bar. How there's a bar made? Dare good looking?

1636
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Speaker 1: Young lady? See serving me? Joke? Hey, what would you like?

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Speaker 1: I used to leave my frank was give me a kettle,

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Speaker 1: one martini, three olives, class of water on the side.

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Speaker 1: I finished the drink. The guys come in. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go go in my pocket, take out the big wad

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Speaker 1: of money I am. I give her one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: If you're with the mob, I say, hey, Jordan, you're

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Speaker 1: on record with us. That means we protect you. Nobody

1644
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Speaker 1: could shake you down. We could shake you down. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you're on record with us. For more on how Jack

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Speaker 1: became so trusted in the highest levels of the Gambino organization,

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Speaker 1: check out episode three ninety two of The Jordan Harbinger Show.