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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, we are happy to be here. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: foul Territory. I'm Trisha Whitaker filling in for Scott Bron today.

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Speaker 1: And of course we have the always entertaining Eric Kratz

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Speaker 1: with us, and we have Kevin Palar with us. Don't

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Speaker 1: much fun today. We have so many topics to get

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Speaker 1: through today. With the MLB Awards last night, all of

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Speaker 1: the awards being given out, We're gonna talk about everything

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Speaker 1: involving those. We're gonna hear from Ken Rosenthal, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: hear from Pete Fairbanks.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be awesome. Guys, how are we doing? KP?

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Speaker 3: You want to start?

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Speaker 1: Because you've got some decoration there across your neck?

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Speaker 2: What is that?

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Speaker 4: I finally had my shoulder fixed my son's football team's over.

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Speaker 4: I was the quarterback. I had to put it off

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Speaker 4: a little bit and just a little wear and tear

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Speaker 4: on my right shoulder. Finally got it fixed, hopefully enough

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Speaker 4: time to get back from my winter basketball league.

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Speaker 2: So how are you feeling?

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Speaker 4: I feel good? Honestly, it was a little scope, not

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Speaker 4: not too painful. I feel pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Why did you get it done? Was it not before?

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Speaker 4: Well? I was in a little bit of pain, but

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Speaker 4: I mean you get operated on, you expect to be

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Speaker 4: in a lot more pain. But good surgeon, good hands,

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Speaker 4: and I'm feeling good.

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Speaker 3: We're not going to throw it out here, but you

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Speaker 3: need to check out KP's first pitch that he threw

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Speaker 3: out there for the Blue Jays and the playoffs here.

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Speaker 4: Maybe throw it out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe maybe that's why. You know what, athletes, especially

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Speaker 3: current athletes because KP is technically not retired yet, current

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Speaker 3: athletes he played this year play through things. So maybe

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Speaker 3: they're your your favorite player is not doing the best

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Speaker 3: that he can. Maybe they're playing through something. So if

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Speaker 3: your favorite player was Superman, well you know what, he

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Speaker 3: was playing through something. So good for you for grinding

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Speaker 3: out that one pitch.

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Speaker 4: I would love to hear. You know, just some of

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Speaker 4: these guys that went to the World Series, some of

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Speaker 4: the injuries that they were playing through. I know, George

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Speaker 4: Springer was a human pinata, you know, towards the end.

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Speaker 4: But like the amount of things that these guys were

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Speaker 4: dealing with through the end would amaze a lot of people,

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Speaker 4: and a lot of them would never really come out

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Speaker 4: and say it. But you know, was his oblique torn?

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Speaker 4: Was it not torn? It was like the craziest thing

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Speaker 4: I've ever seen. But he went out there and posted

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Speaker 4: so a lot of respect for George.

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Speaker 1: And most of it you're never going to know because

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Speaker 1: these guys don't want people to know. And I love

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Speaker 1: the trolls on Twitter, and they're just like sixty five

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Speaker 1: year old men sitting at home on their couch talking

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Speaker 1: about how George Springer, whoever it is, needs to be tougher.

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Speaker 1: It's like, really, okay, you lifted a twinkie today and

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Speaker 1: that's all you did. Okay, all right, next topic, Let's

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Speaker 1: charge the mound because we are going to talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about the man who won the al MVP

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Speaker 1: last night.

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Speaker 2: That was a huge, huge.

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Speaker 1: Topic of discussion throughout the entire second half of the season.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it ramped up the last few weeks. It's

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Speaker 1: judged second consecutive victory, also his third overall. He's the

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Speaker 1: thirteenth player to be named MVP at least three times.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we know you want it over cal Rawley.

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Speaker 1: Eric I know what your thoughts were. I know you

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Speaker 1: wanted cal to win it. I believe you said that

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Speaker 1: yesterday or the day before. Didn't you say you wanted

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Speaker 1: cal to win it? What were your thoughts last night?

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Speaker 3: Don't don't pretend to know my thoughts. Okay, don't pretend

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Speaker 3: I listened because you listened to the show. Just because

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Speaker 3: I said cal Rally dying doesn't mean I didn't pick

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Speaker 3: Aaron Judge. So this is the best way to be

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Speaker 3: if any of your if any of your students are listening,

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Speaker 3: this is the best way to be right all the time.

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Speaker 3: You can say who you think should win, and then

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Speaker 3: who should win, and either way you're going to be right. Look,

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to sit here and defame Aaron Judge

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Speaker 3: for the historic season he had. Obviously, as a catcher,

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Speaker 3: I understand what cal Raley went through, and as an outfielder,

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Speaker 3: KP understands what Judge did. Judgy wins. This should have

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Speaker 3: been his fourth MVP. Really, if you go back and

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Speaker 3: look at his numbers, some of the years he didn't win.

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Speaker 3: I just there's so many things that can be said

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Speaker 3: he is that much better of a person. So it's like,

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Speaker 3: it's so cool to see anytime an ex teammate gets

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Speaker 3: like it's so well deserved and it's crazy to think

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Speaker 3: he had that much better of a season than cal

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Speaker 3: Raley when cal Raley had a historic season. So and

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Speaker 3: good for the voters. I thought the voters did an

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Speaker 3: amazing job.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I agree with you. I mean I was

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Speaker 4: kind of on the same page as you. Early on.

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Speaker 4: I said I wanted cal to win. I felt like

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Speaker 4: what he did was historic, But I also don't think

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Speaker 4: we should, you know, fould a guy if he's winning

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Speaker 4: an MVP every year. I think, you know when I

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Speaker 4: really actually when it came out yesterday and I looked

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Speaker 4: at Aaron Judges' numbers, and I think someone talked about it.

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Speaker 4: It's a video game number. What he did is historic

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Speaker 4: in itself too, And you know, like Kratzy said, he's

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Speaker 4: an unbelievable player, unbelievable human, a great ambassador for the game,

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Speaker 4: and I think we're witnessing one of the greatest players

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Speaker 4: and I hope people don't take it for granted what

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Speaker 4: Aaron Judge is doing. You know, at his size, his

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Speaker 4: average and it's not important, but it was important for him.

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Speaker 4: And the guy's on base nearly half the time. It's

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Speaker 4: it's unbelievable what he's able to do. And I feel

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Speaker 4: like he's only getting better. We always talk about guys

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Speaker 4: as they age, they're supposed to decline. He's only getting better.

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Speaker 4: And I think that I wouldn't be surprised if he

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Speaker 4: wins another one next year. That's how good he is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a credit to him for wanting to improve,

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Speaker 3: for wanting to have a batting average, and oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: he still had fifty three home runs after a year

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Speaker 3: we had fifty eight the year before he had an

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Speaker 3: injury because of the concrete and Dodge Stadium, and before

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Speaker 3: that it was sixty two homers. Like he he's not

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Speaker 3: afraid of trying to improve when he's already he's already

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Speaker 3: at the top. He is the top. And so that's

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Speaker 3: when it's dangerous when you have a physical specimen, when

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Speaker 3: a different in a different way than other people. And

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Speaker 3: then you go ahead and say, oh, he's doing this

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Speaker 3: in New York where a lot of people fade, a

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Speaker 3: lot of people can't handle handle the spotlight. And it's like, well,

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Speaker 3: if it wasn't for the riggers of New York and

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Speaker 3: all the stuff that really goes into being the captain

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Speaker 3: of a team. No, he's he's he's continued to improve,

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Speaker 3: and I can't there isn't words to say other than

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Speaker 3: you need to go out and watch what this guy's doing.

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Speaker 3: Because last night when he won, when they announced he

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Speaker 3: won the award, we started going through my kids' stats,

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Speaker 3: like on Game Changer and stuff like that, and my

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Speaker 3: She was like, my ops was And she didn't even

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Speaker 3: to screen because Judge Judge beat my ops by one

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Speaker 3: point in the Big Leagues. It kind of like it

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Speaker 3: just it kind of was a full circle moment for

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's not to say he doesn't have guys

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Speaker 4: around him, but Kratzy, you know as a catcher. Anytime

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Speaker 4: you're playing the Yankees and you go into scattering ports,

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Speaker 4: don't let Aaron Judge beat us. And still he finds

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Speaker 4: ways to hit for a high average, hit home runs,

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Speaker 4: and he missed what I think he missed over two

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Speaker 4: weeks this year with the elbow injury, so his numbers

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Speaker 4: could have been even better from the power production standpoint.

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Speaker 2: So I think both.

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Speaker 1: Like one of the things that I think you can

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Speaker 1: do is you can say both can be true. Right,

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Speaker 1: they both had incredible seasons. And it doesn't take away

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Speaker 1: from Aaron Judge's season when you say you thought cal

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Speaker 1: Rawley should have won the MVP, because that's what I thought, right.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that Aaron. Of course, Aaron Judge had

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Speaker 1: a historic season. But when I think MVP, I think

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Speaker 1: who was the most valuable player for that team? And

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, cal Ray was the most valuable player

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Speaker 1: for his team.

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Speaker 2: He's a switch hitter.

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Speaker 1: Obviously he did what he did at the plate, but

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Speaker 1: catching that pitching staff too, at the level that he did,

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Speaker 1: to me, all encompassing, cal Rawley was the MVP for

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Speaker 1: his team. But that doesn't that's not saying that Aaron

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Speaker 1: Judge's season wasn't obviously historic and impressive, but I think

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Speaker 1: both can be true. But when you think about which

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Speaker 1: is actually what a lot of the voters said when

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Speaker 1: they talked about why they voted for Cal Rawley, because

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Speaker 1: some of the voters guys released why they voted for

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Speaker 1: who they did, which I love. I love that if

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Speaker 1: you voted in this, you need to explain yourself and

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Speaker 1: we need to know and we do right for these

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Speaker 1: people who explain themselves why they voted for Cal, why

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Speaker 1: they voted for Aaron.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: So Tyler Kepner talked about how he voted for Cal

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Speaker 1: because it's important to honor history when it happens, and

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Speaker 1: Raley's home run sixty home runs set not one single

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Speaker 1: season record, but two, and then he mentioned how he

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Speaker 1: did it across seven hundred and five played appearances, which

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Speaker 1: is quote a staggering total for a backstop. So I guess,

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Speaker 1: KP for me, when you look at these voters releasing

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Speaker 1: their reasons, how much do you value when they decide

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Speaker 1: to say this is who I voted for and why.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I always think about the Hall of Fame ballot,

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Speaker 4: and people don't want to you know, sign their name

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Speaker 4: on the ballot and make them public. Like I think,

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Speaker 1: We're willing to say, all right, we will get CO

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Speaker 1: No, you definitely don't want to take for granted what

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Speaker 3: Oh so much, so much. I mean Ryan O'Hearn. Ryan

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what more does somebody have to

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about reliever of the year Eraldis Chapman obviously

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Speaker 3: The ageless wonder he really is. It's amazing and I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you would think at some point he would just age,

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Speaker 2: I just think it was it was a tough matchup

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Speaker 1: We know that he appeared on four fourteen of thirty ballots.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, much like p he probably would have

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Speaker 3: the MVP BO this year. Just I really don't think,

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Speaker 3: you know, Buxton's really been kind of a problem. You know,

436
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Oh oh wow, we saved three

437
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 3: million dollars, because you know that team wants to save

438
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Speaker 3: some money. Three million dollars. Brian bucks has made a

439
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 3: lot of money. Three million dollars is a lot of money.

440
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Speaker 3: I don't care who you are.

441
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Speaker 2: Would you campaign for them to vote for you, Eric,

442
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 2: if you were in that situation?

443
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 3: But the right like you can't. KP says that, but

444
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 3: you can't, Like you have to. You have to be

445
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 3: who you are. You're you're calling people you're calling. Last September,

446
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 3: you see Buckston over here, He's like, allion, I've never

447
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:54,880
Speaker 3: seen a player do that, not yet, not when it's

448
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 3: not when you got three million dollars on the line,

449
00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 3: I mean tenth place and the crazy Party got eleventh place.

450
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Speaker 3: He missed it. By two points. Two points.

451
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Speaker 4: What's that the difference between like a seventh place vote

452
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Speaker 4: and a sixth plath vote, you know, potentially is that

453
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Speaker 4: two points. I don't know exactly what worked. Yeah, I mean,

454
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Speaker 4: you know, you're not asking someone to say, hey, vote

455
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Speaker 4: for me first, but like, hey, you know, down that

456
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Speaker 4: ballot a little bit, you know, once you get into

457
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Speaker 4: those later numbers, just put.

458
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Speaker 3: My name on there, Dan Hayes, give me a give

459
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Speaker 3: me a first place. That's it. That's it. One first place.

460
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Speaker 2: My goodness.

461
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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about uh, well, Twitter trolls, right,

462
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of them out there, but let's take

463
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Speaker 1: a look at this one. There were a lot of

464
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Speaker 1: reactions on Twitter to Derek's nl MVP ballot this year, right,

465
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Speaker 1: he put per Domo at third place, Soto getting his

466
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Speaker 1: second place votes, and there were.

467
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, a lot of reaction.

468
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Speaker 1: To this ballot here, guys, And honestly, rightfully so some

469
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Speaker 1: I'm saying it was just clickbait that he would even

470
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Speaker 1: do this or tweet this. What do you guys think, Eric.

471
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 4: You're showing off some good handwriting, that's for sure.

472
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all caps, you go all caps when.

473
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Speaker 4: You write no chance no, I don't unless it's like,

474
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 4: unless you like, are signing something to someone, like if

475
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 4: you have to sign a jersey or bat it's just

476
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Speaker 4: more legible to write in all caps and you write slower.

477
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Speaker 4: But no, I would never write like my to do

478
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Speaker 4: list or like a grocery list in all caps.

479
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Speaker 1: That's I am a half cursive half print. You guys,

480
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: I'm not even joking with you.

481
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Speaker 3: That's a weird hybrid. But that's not weird. It's not

482
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Speaker 3: weird that Derek did that. I love that he wrote

483
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Speaker 3: that out. I love that he had a outside the

484
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Speaker 3: box way of looking at it. I love the way

485
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Speaker 3: that he was able to then go and connect with

486
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Speaker 3: the fans. Isn't that what fans? Isn't that why we

487
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 3: have Twitter and Instagram so that we connect? And Derek

488
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 3: was not afraid of connecting. Some people call clickbait. He's

489
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Speaker 3: a writer. Like he put out his he put out

490
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Speaker 3: his guests of who he thought his opinion, and you

491
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Speaker 3: know what, good for him for standing behind it. I

492
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Speaker 3: did think Perdomo should have been higher up on some

493
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Speaker 3: of the lists than what he didn't. He wasn't a

494
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Speaker 3: dh I know Schwarberg got second place, but like, this

495
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 3: man played shortstop for a team that was scratching a

496
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Speaker 3: call in all year, and he had an incredible year.

497
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Speaker 3: Look it up.

498
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I agree with you. I think, like

499
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Speaker 4: you said, the whole idea of social media was to

500
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Speaker 4: connect with people. It's not to be little talk down

501
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Speaker 4: to people, trill people. The fact that he wanted to

502
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Speaker 4: go out there and put his votes out there and

503
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Speaker 4: then engage with the fans and maybe explain why he

504
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Speaker 4: did what he did. But at the end of the day,

505
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Speaker 4: these writers get to choose who they want to vote for.

506
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Speaker 4: Some make them public, some don't. This is his opinion

507
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 4: of who he thought were the most valuable players. We're

508
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 4: not saying the best players the most valuable and he

509
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 4: felt like that position at short is very valuable to

510
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Speaker 4: the Arizona time.

511
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Speaker 6: I think there's still a bright future for for Hayden

512
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Speaker 6: and and we're excited about that. And there's some other

513
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Speaker 6: guys you can be really excited about.

514
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Speaker 1: You know.

515
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Speaker 6: I think Wiz'd Hunt's a really good pitcher. There's a

516
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Speaker 6: ton of young guys down there. I think Trevor McDonald

517
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Speaker 6: at the end of the year was uh, you know,

518
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Speaker 6: really impressive. You know, we got to see him last

519
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 6: the year before, like the last game he was like

520
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Speaker 6: a spot, Hey, let's throw three innings, and he's did amazing.

521
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Speaker 6: And then this year he came in and I thought

522
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Speaker 6: he did a great job again. So there's a lot

523
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Speaker 6: of really good pieces that we have obviously, you know,

524
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Speaker 6: me and Robbie, and you know, I would love to

525
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Speaker 6: have Justin back. I thought, Justin back to the kind

526
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Speaker 6: of the scouting part of things helped me so much,

527
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Speaker 6: uh in my career, not only just mentality, you know,

528
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Speaker 6: the scouting part of it, seeing reading different things that

529
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Speaker 6: I might you know, not have seen before. And I

530
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Speaker 6: would love Justin to come back. Like I said, it's

531
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Speaker 6: not my decision. I don't get to decide these things.

532
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Speaker 6: I saw the Max thing. I know Tony knows them

533
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Speaker 6: from a long time ago. So and I'm sure I'm

534
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Speaker 6: sure it would be very similar. Learning as much as

535
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Speaker 6: I can, and then yeah, you know, I I think

536
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Speaker 6: at the end, I always try to find guys and

537
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Speaker 6: get better in certain ways. I've seen a lot of

538
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Speaker 6: comments about trying to get starting pitching and and and

539
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Speaker 6: other other spots. So like I said, just show up

540
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Speaker 6: and try to try to do try to get better

541
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Speaker 6: as for myself and then kind of let the other

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Speaker 6: pieces fall as they may.

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's talk a little bit about the

544
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Speaker 1: Giants here. That was some interesting stuff from Logan Web.

545
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Speaker 1: We know that they have a new manager, but we

546
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Speaker 1: want to talk about that starting rotation. They have talked

547
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Speaker 1: about how adding some pieces to that is definitely going

548
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Speaker 1: to be a priority for them, adding that pitching depth.

549
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Speaker 1: What do you guys think that rotation is going to

550
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Speaker 1: look like in twenty twenty six. Eric will start with you.

551
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's going to be the similar

552
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 3: what he was talking about some young guys, him and

553
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Speaker 3: Robbie Ray. That's the reason they got Robbie Ray another

554
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 3: year off of his Tommy John surgery. So I think

555
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Speaker 3: it's something that is they have the backbone, the pieces. Look,

556
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 3: the reality is what he was talking about Justin Verlander.

557
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 3: He's not saying, yeah, we gotta bring Justin Verlander back

558
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Speaker 3: because he's gonna win fifteen games for us. No, he

559
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Speaker 3: knows what kind of impact he made on his career

560
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Speaker 3: and what kind of impact he made on the other

561
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Speaker 3: young guys that they were talking about. And I think

562
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Speaker 3: if they get a surezer, that's great. But if this

563
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Speaker 3: team wants to take that next step, if this team

564
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Speaker 3: won to compete in the National League, I think they

565
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 3: and their feel is that they need another big rotation piece.

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Speaker 3: I don't think those guys are the answer. I think

567
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Speaker 3: those guys are additions. And I think there's a difference

568
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Speaker 3: between the answer to what you need and an addition,

569
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Speaker 3: and so to me, I think Buster Posey understands that.

570
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Speaker 3: But he also understands that in Oracle Park you can

571
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: get a lot done, you can mask a lot of things.

572
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: You don't need the same thing as other teams would

573
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Speaker 3: need to be successful as a starting pitcher.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I agree with you. I think you

575
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 4: can mask a lot of things in that ballpark. But

576
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Speaker 4: I think if we're talking about and knowing Buster Posey,

577
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 4: he wants to win. The reason he took over, the

578
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 4: reason he hired the manager hit he went out and

579
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Speaker 4: got is they want to win. And in order for

580
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Speaker 4: them to compete with a team like the Dodgers within

581
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Speaker 4: their own division and the Padres, they're gonna need to

582
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Speaker 4: at least get one more really quality starting There is

583
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Speaker 4: value in bringing in a Justin Verlander and a Max

584
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Speaker 4: Scherzer to help these guys to teach the young guys

585
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 4: to allow Logan Web Robbie Ray to continue to grow.

586
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 4: But like you said, they are not necessarily answer you

587
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 4: need in the rotation. They need impact. If you could

588
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 4: put someone in slotted after Logan Web Robbie Ray, a

589
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 4: third guy, maybe you have a veteran and a young guy,

590
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: but someone in that third spot that is going to

591
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 4: go out there and win you fifteen sixteen games a year.

592
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 4: They got a chance to compete, but without that, it's

593
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Speaker 4: an uphill battle facing teams like the Dodgers and Padres

594
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Speaker 4: and even the Diamondbacks in your own division.

595
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Speaker 1: All Right, So one of the things that the Giants

596
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: announced recently was they hired Bruce Bochi for that special

597
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Speaker 1: assistant role. And you know, we know Buster Posey has

598
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Speaker 1: talked a lot about how much he loves that move

599
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Speaker 1: because of the leadership, the insight, the experience that he

600
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Speaker 1: is going to provide them.

601
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Speaker 2: Eric, what do you think about that move?

602
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Speaker 3: I think anytime you get a specialist, I think it's

603
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Speaker 3: a cool move. I think you have of somebody awesome

604
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Speaker 3: in the organization. Is it making a blip on the

605
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Speaker 3: Giants radar?

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Speaker 2: No?

607
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Speaker 3: I think there's other organizations that could really kind of

608
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 3: learn from bringing people back, bringing people that have won back,

609
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Speaker 3: bringing people that know the game back. What that looks

610
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: like all depends on the guy. Like a lot of

611
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Speaker 3: good organizations have a really great trickle down effect from

612
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Speaker 3: the top. I don't think the giants necessarily need this.

613
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Speaker 3: I think Buster just really enjoys Boach's company, and the

614
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Speaker 3: organization should have him around as long as Boat wants

615
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Speaker 3: to be around.

616
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a it's a it's a way of saying, hey,

617
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Speaker 4: we're paying you money to be a special assistant, so

618
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Speaker 4: when our manager calls, you need to pick up. And

619
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Speaker 4: it's going to be a great resource for him because

620
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Speaker 4: you know, it is his first time managing in the

621
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Speaker 4: major leagues and he's already been very open. I've heard

622
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Speaker 4: him on a couple other shows, radio shows, and you know,

623
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Speaker 4: he's been in braced and kind of that managerial fraternity

624
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 4: very well. But having someone like Bruce Bochin his corner

625
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 4: is not going to hurt.

626
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Speaker 7: I think I would expect them to reach out, you know,

627
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 7: I think I don't know if it'll be you know, serious,

628
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 7: but maybe to check in and you know, kind of

629
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Speaker 7: gauge the waters. So to speak, and you know, I

630
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 7: had a good talk with him after I was I

631
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Speaker 7: was traded, and you know, I was really encouraging on

632
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Speaker 7: possibly maybe you know, coming back there, and you know,

633
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 7: obviously things changed. That was three months ago, but you know,

634
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Speaker 7: you know, I really enjoyed my time getting to know

635
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Speaker 7: how I'm a little bit and think that the cardinal's

636
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 7: future is in really good hands with him.

637
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Speaker 1: Okay, well that was a ringing endorsement from Ryan for

638
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Speaker 1: him bloom. But I know he says that he expects

639
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Speaker 1: the Cardinals to reach out to him this winter.

640
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Speaker 2: KP.

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Speaker 1: What do you think do you think he should be

642
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: expecting a call from them? Do you think that he

643
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: should be holding his breath?

644
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Speaker 2: What do you think?

645
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 4: No, that was going to be my friendly advice to him,

646
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 4: as I wouldn't say hold your breath. We might that

647
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 4: might be the last of Ryan Helsley. We see if

648
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Speaker 4: he's holding his breath waiting for the Cardinals uh to

649
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 4: call him. I mean they've talked about they want to

650
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 4: shed payroll. They're not going to go out and spend.

651
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Speaker 4: You know, he didn't he had a down year, especially

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Speaker 4: after he got traded. He didn't have the success that

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Speaker 4: he had before. But he's still gonna be a coveted

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Speaker 4: arm that's gonna cost money, and it just doesn't seem

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Speaker 4: like a fit for the Cardinals. It's weird when you're

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Speaker 4: in that position and it's your first time being a

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Speaker 4: free agent, and maybe even your third or fourth time,

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Speaker 4: you have to be politically correct. The great thing about

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Speaker 4: not playing anymore and not having him to answer it

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Speaker 4: anyone is I don't have to be politically correct, and

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Speaker 4: they ain't calling, buddy, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't see them calling either, And that

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Speaker 3: doesn't that's nothing against time, that's nothing against anything. Maybe

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Speaker 3: he hopes they called because he was like, dang, my

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Speaker 3: first my first gallivanting outside of the Cardinals organization didn't

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Speaker 3: go well. Maybe I felt comfortable there, and I really

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Speaker 3: enjoyed being comfortable. So I don't think that Cardinals are calling.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Okay, well sorry, Ryan, we don't think the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: are calling.

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Speaker 2: Don't hold your breath.

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Speaker 4: You think that maybe you can call?

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Speaker 2: You call me, calling me, Call.

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Speaker 4: Ryan, Ryan, you call you call call the boss.

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Speaker 2: All right, it's time for slap hands. I don't know

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Speaker 2: a whole lot.

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Speaker 3: Basically, I'm showing you what hat I have, and it's

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Speaker 3: a raise hat I wore for you and for Pete. Okay,

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Speaker 3: but the reality is this is this is my time

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Speaker 3: to say a little something. I'm never gonna say anything

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Speaker 3: about a woman's age. But you haven't been alive when

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Speaker 3: Indiana basketball has won a championship, so you cannot claim

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Speaker 3: Indiana basketball football.

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Speaker 2: I listen here, I'm a loyal fan. You're right.

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Speaker 3: I will overlive.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm mm hmm