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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Day, brought to

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bowl Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Oh baby, let's do it live on a Game Day

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Speaker 2: Monday EDITIONTIVE Cleveland Brown's Daily. I am merely bo here's

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Speaker 2: the great Z. How you living, buddy.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing well, man.

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Speaker 4: Game day, getting ready to get to Pittsburgh for the

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Speaker 4: Browns and the Steelers Monday night football and opportunity for

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Speaker 4: the Browns to make a huge statement tonight. I really

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Speaker 4: think this is one where it could be a huge

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Speaker 4: statement for the Cleveland Browns. And you know, looking getting

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Speaker 4: ready for this. You know, if the Browns win this game,

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Speaker 4: not only would they go too and oh for the

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Speaker 4: first time since nineteen ninety three, not only would they

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Speaker 4: beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh in the regular season for

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Speaker 4: the first time since two thousand and three, they would

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Speaker 4: be one of just three teams three in the entire

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Speaker 4: AFC to be two and oher and in this hyper

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Speaker 4: competitive conference, when you think about playoffs, that would be

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Speaker 4: a great thing after two weeks to be one of

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Speaker 4: only three teams at the top of this conference.

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Speaker 2: When you start to think about that, and you start

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Speaker 2: to think about the amount of teams that are zero

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Speaker 2: and two who can try to dig themselves out, Cincinni's

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Speaker 2: the only team that's been oh and two to dig

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Speaker 2: themselves out and still make the postseason. So you laid

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Speaker 2: out correctly the importance of this one from our perspective,

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Speaker 2: it's equally as important from their perspective. Here's the thing, Bud,

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Speaker 2: the Browns are the better team.

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Speaker 3: Yes they are.

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Speaker 2: They're more talented at every level, They're deeper at every level,

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Speaker 2: they're more dangerous.

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Speaker 3: At every level.

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Speaker 2: They have they have everything. We were talking, you and

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Speaker 2: I were talking this morning. It's the mystical things that

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Speaker 2: give Pittsburgh the advantage. It's renegade, it's Monday at night.

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Speaker 2: It's the fact that you can't win over there. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's all nonsense. It's nonsense. Just be the better team.

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Speaker 2: Play to your part. That's why I think this one's

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Speaker 2: so big for us. I really do, because what this

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Speaker 2: message can send not only to the rest of the league,

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Speaker 2: but I think to yourself, to your fan base, that

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Speaker 2: you're immune to nonsense because the advantages they have, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the great atmospheres in all of sport.

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Speaker 2: A game at Heinzfield or whatever it's called. Now, there's

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Speaker 2: no question Renegade's one of the coolest things ever. All

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Speaker 2: of those things check out. But man, you're better. Just

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Speaker 2: go exercise those demons and take care of your business

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Speaker 2: and you come home on that bus ride in a

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Speaker 2: very good place.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're exactly right. The Browns are the better team.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you go through it and going through my

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Speaker 4: preparations for this, the Browns. The Browns are by far

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Speaker 4: the better team as a matter of fact, in terms

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Speaker 4: of the talent on both sides of the ball. Of

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Speaker 4: talent all over this roster, especially with the stealer going

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Speaker 4: to be without the services of Cam Hayward as well

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Speaker 4: as Deontay Johnson, who's been their leading receiver the last years.

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Speaker 4: The Browns are better. So they need to go out.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's not only proven to the fan base,

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Speaker 4: prove it. Prove it to themselves that we are who

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Speaker 4: we think we are, that we are a team of consequence.

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Speaker 4: And a team of consequence goes out and they win

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Speaker 4: this game. That's the bottom line. That's exactly what the

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Speaker 4: Cleveland brown should do. They should go to Pittsburgh, they

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Speaker 4: should beat the Steelers. Is it going to be easy?

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Speaker 4: Of course not. Are the Steelers game, of course they are.

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Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin, in his career as the coach since two

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Speaker 4: thousand and seven, which is crazy to say out loud,

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Speaker 4: has never had a losing season, and when his team

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Speaker 4: has been beaten by twenty points the week before, they

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Speaker 4: have come back and won four straight games and ten

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Speaker 4: it's not about being easy. It's about taking what you want.

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Speaker 4: It is about for the Cleveland Browns going in there

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Speaker 2: It's a styles make the fights thing, too, right. I Mean,

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Speaker 2: we just saw San Francisco, who runs as a similar approach,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Finger pointing over there with Matt Canada and the offense.

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Speaker 2: There's some lingering doubt about obviously Kenny Pickett and what's

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Speaker 2: feels like there's a lot of internal questioning over in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we already mentioned they won't have Deontay. We'll

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Speaker 4: to try to establish Najie Harris, who's had a lot

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Speaker 4: for the Browns it's imperative that they stop Naji Harris,

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Speaker 4: for Najie Harris, he's got his career high game against

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Speaker 3: But to your point, you go back a week ago,

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Speaker 3: go back one week.

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Speaker 4: They open their game with five straight three and outs

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Speaker 4: So this was a situation where you know their offense

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Speaker 3: This crowd.

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Speaker 4: You get a jump out like that, you get three

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Speaker 3: This crowd will turn on Matt Canada.

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Speaker 4: So you you give him that, you make that happen.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about the Deontay Johnson, the Pickens, although Pickens

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Speaker 3: It feels like it does as well.

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Speaker 4: You talk about Cam Hayward out of the lineup for

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Speaker 4: Nick Chubb, you know, comes into this one with some history.

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Speaker 4: He needs ninety four rushing yards to pass Mike Pruitt

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Speaker 4: for third all time in Brown's history. He has to

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Speaker 4: the Browns are three and oh. So I think, yes

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Speaker 4: twenty four getting behind that line. They have great pass

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Speaker 4: heavy Nick Chubb. Last week the Browns had ten runs

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Speaker 2: This is fun, man, it's a fun one. It's a

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Speaker 2: fun one for coach Stefanski. It's a fun one for

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Speaker 2: the organization. It's a much bigger game, if you want

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Speaker 2: to just think of it from a practical standpoint. It's

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Speaker 2: a much bigger result that is needed in Pittsburgh than

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Speaker 2: it is needed here. What there is here is a

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Speaker 2: To be to start out two and oh in the

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Speaker 2: the Browns. It's a big thing for coach to go

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Speaker 2: over there. Remember a playoff game a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: That's the last win we've had over there. You were there,

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Speaker 2: one for our organization as well, even though it's more

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Speaker 4: It doesn't for us putting ourselves at two and oh.

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Speaker 4: You want to be a team that makes the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: You want to be in the race to win this division.

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Speaker 4: That puts you at the forefront of that conversation, that

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Speaker 4: see them in week four and that'll be a game

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Speaker 4: for first place. The Browns need this one, though, I

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Speaker 4: think that it is so much bigger than just one game.

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Speaker 4: If this was were two at home against Tennessee, of

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Speaker 4: course you'd say we should win. It's you know, it's

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Speaker 4: an important game. The Browns need to take care of

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Speaker 4: the games are supposed to and you'd feel like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're the favorites.

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Speaker 3: You this is totally different.

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Speaker 4: It is the Steelers that is exercising a lot of demons,

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Speaker 4: and it is making a statement on national television and

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Speaker 4: putting yourself in a position with fifteen games to go,

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Speaker 4: which is still a ton, but putting yourself in the

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Speaker 4: ultimate position two and zero in the division. Wins over

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Speaker 4: the Bengals, win over the Steelers on Monday Night football

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Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh. I just can't even stress how big that

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Speaker 2: The belief that would come with it, the springboard that

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Speaker 2: bulletproof that would come with it. Yeah, it's all of

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Speaker 2: those things. We are battered as well. Marii Cooper showed

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Speaker 2: up on the air injury report over the weekend. Z

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Speaker 2: what can you tell us about Amar?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he injured his groin in practice on Saturday. He

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Speaker 4: There is optimism that it is, first of all, not

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Speaker 3: The weather should not be an issue tonight.

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Speaker 3: In this game.

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Speaker 2: We painted a picture of all the advantages that the

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Speaker 2: it's their two ends. It's high Smith, and it's what

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Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski's no dummy. He's gonna have a plan for that.

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Speaker 3: That needs to be avoided.

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Speaker 4: And it's a big game for Jed Wills, huge baby

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Speaker 2: Conversely, on the other side of the ball, the same

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a lot of fun. And you're right.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, did you see or come across perhaps

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Speaker 2: Right, Lots to get to on this one, and juxtaposed

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Speaker 4: see as many kind of designed runs for Lamar. But

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Speaker 4: tell me how you feel about this. It felt like

437
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Speaker 4: their offense was Lamar drop back. If it's there right away,

438
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Speaker 4: throw it quickly, take a couple shots downfield.

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Speaker 3: But if it's not, just run.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how many times the game

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Speaker 4: he just dropped back and just rate.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 2: I think that's to me, it looked very much like

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Speaker 2: what you would do, like in a college one read offense.

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Speaker 3: Yes, like if this is there, throw it.

446
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Speaker 2: If it's not not, go yeah yeah yeah that no,

447
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,920
Speaker 2: there's a lot. Now that's real dangerous. As long as

448
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Speaker 2: you have him and he's healthy, then it's very very dangerous.

449
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Speaker 2: But if something is to happen, then there's going to

450
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Speaker 2: be an issue with that. I didn't think either one.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Cincinnati was obviously very disappointing, and again I

452
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Speaker 2: think they have big issues with the with the calf

453
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Speaker 2: and all that. I don't I don't think that this

454
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Speaker 2: is something that's going to wash away quickly for them.

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Speaker 2: I also think that that while it is a nice

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Speaker 2: win for Baltimore, I'm with you. I'm in no mood

457
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Speaker 2: to crown them anything that special at this point. It's

458
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Speaker 2: a not really nice win for them. I thought Cincinnati

459
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Speaker 2: would win, so I get that one wrong, but it's

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Speaker 2: not something where I'm ready to crown. I think the

461
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Speaker 2: other thing around that the AFC. You think about the

462
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Speaker 2: teams that are zero and two that had aspirations, the Chargers,

463
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Speaker 2: I mean, jeez, come on, man, come.

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Speaker 4: On, I watch it hold that. They're so much better there.

465
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Speaker 4: They were so much better that they're not even close.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy Herbert played for there.

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Speaker 3: They do.

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Speaker 4: They have no idea how to win, and that's a

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Speaker 4: team right there. They need to fire that coach and

470
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Speaker 4: they need to get somebody in there that knows what

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Speaker 4: they're doing, and they're gonna be just fy. Sean Payton,

472
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Speaker 4: you said it last week, We said it all off season. Honestly,

473
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Speaker 4: that made the mistake of going to Denver when he

474
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Speaker 4: was the exec and the Charges made a mistake of

475
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Speaker 4: letting him go Denver. He was the perfect person, perfect

476
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Speaker 4: to be there with the Chargers. And if he's there

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Speaker 4: there too and.

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Speaker 2: Zero, well and the team he's at is zero and

479
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Speaker 2: two Denver. Now they're not good.

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Speaker 4: Well, the surprising thing is their defense is not good.

481
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Speaker 4: Russ was actually decent enough in this game. They did

482
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Speaker 4: have the huge lull in the second half, but they

483
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Speaker 4: were up what twenty one three?

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Speaker 2: They were up twenty one to three in the game,

485
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Speaker 2: and they let the Commis come all the way back.

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Speaker 2: Then they got down fourteen. They almost tie it with

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Speaker 2: a Hail mary as, which is crazy in real time. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would also say that probably not probably the most

489
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Speaker 2: cruel outcome, depending on your on you where you were

490
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Speaker 2: with the scores, and for us it was me Pedro

491
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Speaker 2: I was. I was the Pedro son Pedro always wanted.

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Speaker 2: If you remember Pedro calling in on Friday. I have

493
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Speaker 2: never in my life seen an NFL team down ten

494
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Speaker 2: run a two minute drill, spike it with four seconds

495
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Speaker 2: to run a field goal unit out and the difference

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Speaker 2: between ten and seven and a half. What's crazy? I

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Speaker 2: just I mean, what the hell? What are you doing?

498
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Speaker 2: Like throw it at the end zone? What do we

499
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Speaker 2: need a field goal for it? Like it's almost like

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Speaker 2: they did it for like the Rams backers clubs.

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Speaker 4: It fell like Yes, ultimately that's the outcome. They just

502
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Speaker 4: should have kicked a field goal to play before tried

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Speaker 4: a long field goal, so you had time for a

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Speaker 4: non site kicking.

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Speaker 2: The cory, but that would have made sense.

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Speaker 4: You can't kick the field goal so that as it

507
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Speaker 4: goes through the uprights, time is out. Yeah, that was

508
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Speaker 4: That was whild My dad was not happy about that,

509
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 4: not because he my dad doesn't do any sports investing,

510
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Speaker 4: but yeah, it was Uh yeah, that was. That was

511
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Speaker 4: pretty stunning. Puka Nakua is for real. That guy's yes,

512
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Speaker 4: he is real, very good. Stafford's good too. It almost

513
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Speaker 4: feels like they found and I know that his body

514
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Speaker 4: is not the same type or he's not the same

515
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Speaker 4: type of receiver, but I'm just saying in much the

516
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Speaker 4: same way that Akwon Bolden just kind of came on

517
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Speaker 4: the scene and took over. Now, he was a much

518
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Speaker 4: earlier round pick, but I mean, fifteen catches in a game,

519
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Speaker 4: he's at ten and one hundred and the only player

520
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Speaker 4: in the history of the league to start your career

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Speaker 4: with ten plus catches on one hundred plus yards in

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Speaker 4: two games.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's crazy. And he looks doesn't look like

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Speaker 3: it's going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, Stafford's quite comfortable with him. So it

526
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Speaker 2: was Miami's legit. You knew that going in. They proved

527
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Speaker 2: it last night. Dallas is legit to their defenses. MICHAEH.

528
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Speaker 2: Parsons is on another level. Brother.

529
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Speaker 3: I feel like Dallas is legit.

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Speaker 4: And we're not even gonna really know how legit they

531
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Speaker 4: are because they get the Cardinals next week. So they

532
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Speaker 4: got like a Giants team that is shaky at best,

533
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Speaker 4: that had to come back from twenty nothing at the

534
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Speaker 4: half to beat twenty down the half to beat Arizona.

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Speaker 4: They get a Jets team without air run and the

536
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Speaker 4: Jets it's a tree havevesty. I mean, it's they need

537
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Speaker 4: to make a trade today, like go get Ruby perset today.

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Speaker 3: Enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't keep doing that. They can't run that

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Speaker 2: back out there anymore.

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Speaker 6: No, that's not right.

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Speaker 4: No, it's it's not okay. It's not okay at all.

543
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Speaker 4: So yeah, and then they're gonna get Arizona. So Dallas

544
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Speaker 4: is gonna be three and oh and we're really not

545
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Speaker 4: gonna know much about them.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I think I know based on what I'm seeing,

547
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Speaker 2: and I think they're real.

548
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Speaker 3: No, No, I think they're real.

549
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Speaker 2: I think they're very real. Yeah, all right, we'll get

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Speaker 2: some perspective behind enemy lines. Brook Prior of ESPN gonna

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Speaker 2: join us. Coming up next you listen to Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 2: Steelers reporter Brooke Prior joining us on the Twisted Tea

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Speaker 2: hot Line with the latest from Pittsburgh. Brook, let's just

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Speaker 2: start with the temperature of the fan base heading into

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Speaker 2: this one. Obviously bullied in the opener, a Browns team

563
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Speaker 2: that they've done the majority of the bullying on. But

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Speaker 2: it feels like there's a lot of questions right now

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Speaker 2: over in Pittsburgh. Where's the fan base with it tonight?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? I think the fan base is kind of tipped

567
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Speaker 7: Baby lukewarm. I don't know. I think that they're confused

568
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Speaker 7: because they came out of the preseason feeling like, oh

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Speaker 7: my gosh, we've got a team's got a quarterback, We'll

570
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Speaker 7: get this offense, and like, right, it's a preseason, so

571
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Speaker 7: how much of it can you believe? But I think

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Speaker 7: everybody felt pretty good. And then you go into Game one,

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Speaker 7: and I'm gonna be honest, like I thought that I

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Speaker 7: thought that it was going to be a much closer

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Speaker 7: game than what we saw. I thought, Hey, the forty

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Speaker 7: nine Ers probably still have an edge, but this feels

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Speaker 7: like the kind of game that the Steelers win, especially

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Speaker 7: based off of the last two years when they beat

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Speaker 7: the Bills and beat the Bengals in the season opener,

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Speaker 7: and it felt like, Okay, I mean, they can win

581
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Speaker 7: this game, and then not only do they not win,

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Speaker 7: but they just get I mean just picked apart and everything.

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Speaker 7: Nothing that we saw in the preseason felt like it

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Speaker 7: carried over, And so I think this fan base is

585
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Speaker 7: just a little bit confused, a little bit feeling like,

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Speaker 7: oh my gosh, we're you know, in the middle of

587
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Speaker 7: feels like they're taken right back to the middle of

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Speaker 7: last season, right before the bye, when the offense just

589
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Speaker 7: looked hapless, like it didn't know what it was doing,

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Speaker 7: And so I think people here are ready to see

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Speaker 7: week two to see how he was week one. Was

592
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Speaker 7: that just a fluke or is this a serious issue?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: And that's kind of the question right for this team.

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Speaker 4: And you know they started with the five street three

596
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Speaker 4: and outs. You wonder Brook, if what what would your

597
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Speaker 4: expectation if this game starts with multiple three and outs

598
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Speaker 4: on offense?

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Speaker 3: But what's this crowd gonna do.

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Speaker 7: It's gonna build. It is going to be very loud,

601
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Speaker 7: and it is going to be very unhappy. It's and

602
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Speaker 7: they they did not mind booing the offense last game.

603
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Speaker 7: But the difference is, I mean, there aren't very many

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Speaker 7: things that this team can do if the offense can't

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Speaker 7: get it self figured out, because look, they're not gonna bench.

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Speaker 7: Can you pick Itt? They've invested too many resources in him.

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Speaker 7: This is not a team either that you know parts

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Speaker 7: with coordinators a mid season or early season. Matt Canada

609
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 7: is playing out, is coaching out the last year of

610
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Speaker 7: his contract right now. But the Dealers are kind of

611
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Speaker 7: up against a wall here. They've got to figure something

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Speaker 7: out because you start out with that many three and

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Speaker 7: outs again and then things are not good. But I

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Speaker 7: think that they've got to get back to the identity

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Speaker 7: that they told us they were going to have all

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Speaker 7: off season, and that was this is going to be

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Speaker 7: a run first team. They've built the O line to

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Speaker 7: be a run first team. They've got Najie Harris, They've

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Speaker 7: got a complimentary back in Jalen Warren. It hurts them

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Speaker 7: this team that they don't have Anthony McFarland. He's out

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Speaker 7: with a knee injury and he was a nice kind

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Speaker 7: of change of pace back. But this is a team

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Speaker 7: that they have got to run the ball more than

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Speaker 7: they did a week ago if they want to get

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Speaker 7: this offense going.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you mentioned running at Najie Harris on one side,

627
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Speaker 4: but when they do throw it, we know they will

628
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Speaker 4: not have Deontay Johnson, who's been the leading receiver the

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Speaker 4: last two seasons, went to the Pro Bowl in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty one. What can you tell us though about George Pickens,

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Speaker 4: who popped up on the injury report with a hamstring

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Speaker 4: issue over the weekend.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that was kind of a weird one, right, I Mean,

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Speaker 7: he pops up as limited, didn't do a whole lot

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Speaker 7: in that last practice on Saturday, but then didn't have

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Speaker 7: an injury designation, so they clearly I think that it's

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Speaker 7: minor enough that there's no question that he'll play. But

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Speaker 7: that is certainly concerning when you're already down Deontay Johnson

639
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 7: in this wide receiver course really top heavy, and when

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00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 7: you're already missing the number one guy, you can't really

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Speaker 7: afford to have any other injuries to that group or

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Speaker 7: for anybody else to be limited. But I'd look for

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Speaker 7: Calvin Austin will probably be more involved, and he's built

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Speaker 7: like a slot guy, but he plays on the outside.

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Speaker 7: And then Alan Robinson, funny enough, is built like an

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Speaker 7: outside guy but plays in the slot, so they just

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Speaker 7: kind of reverse there. I think gunneryl Schewsky will end

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Speaker 7: up being active and probably have a role in the offense.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, it's I'm that's someone. George Dickens is going

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Speaker 7: to be someone that I keep a very close eye

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Speaker 7: on during warm ups to see how much he is

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Speaker 7: able to do, because I mean, hamstring, any kind of

653
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Speaker 7: soft tissue injury is really concerning well.

654
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: And it's it's not just the injuries there, it's the

655
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: the as big or perhaps probably bigger quite frankly, is

656
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: the Cam Hayward injury and the difference when he's there

657
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: and when he's not, And the Browns continue to have

658
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb, and so there's a problem there too. How

659
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: will the Steelers try to combat the loss of someone

660
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: of Hayward's magnitude.

661
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 7: Probably say a lot of prayers, and then also they'll

662
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 7: they'll have a They're gonna replace Hayward by committee because

663
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 7: let's face it, on this roster, there is not another

664
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 7: defensive lineman that is as well rounded as Cam Hayward.

665
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 7: So I think it's going to be a combination of

666
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 7: armand Watts, who's a veteran they signed in free agency.

667
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 7: They'll also have Keanu Benton, second round pick, who I

668
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 7: think will end up being really good. Like he's young,

669
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 7: so it's hard to tell if he's ready to step

670
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 7: into this role. They'll also have to Marvin Leel and

671
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 7: then they also have to hope that Larry Ogunjobi's foot

672
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 7: holds up. I mean, he did practice on Saturday, but he,

673
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 7: you know, is kind of known for not doing it.

674
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 7: A lot of work during the week and then being

675
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 7: a gamer and being effective. But I think they were

676
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 7: that he would be more healthy this year than he

677
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 7: was last year. But I mean, it kind of feels

678
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 7: like Zach Wilson going to play the Cowboys on a

679
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 7: short week, right, Like, this is what I feel like.

680
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 7: The Steelers defensive line facing Nick Chubb now without Cam

681
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 7: Hayward kind of feels like, all right, we're just gonna

682
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 7: throw you in the fire and good luck. This is

683
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 7: a baptism by fire. So it's not gonna get any

684
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 7: easier either after this week. They have Josh Jacobs and

685
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 7: the Raiders next week. So this line has got to

686
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 7: come together and come together fast to have any prayer,

687
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 7: because the Browns are way more successful and win way

688
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 7: more games in this series. When Nick Chubb has over

689
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 7: eighty rushing yards, yeah.

690
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 3: That's kind of been the magic formula.

691
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 4: When when Najie Harris has eighty yards and a touchdown

692
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 4: on the ground, the Steelers wh When Nick Chubb runs

693
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: for more than eighty yards, the Browns have won in

694
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 4: this series. I want to ask you though, because you're

695
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 4: talking about upfront, but it's also going to impact the linebackers,

696
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 4: and it's a whole new linebacking core on the middle.

697
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 4: Cole holcom Kwan, Alex and Eland, and Roberts all nude.

698
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 4: The Steelers this year. Talk to me kind of about

699
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 4: that rotation. Are there kind of specific roles and what

700
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 4: did you see from that trio in Week one against

701
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 4: the Niners. Seem that was able to run the ball

702
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 4: pretty effectively.

703
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 7: Against the Steelers, Yeah, you know, I think the inside

704
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 7: linebackers were okay. To me, there weren't any significant breakdowns

705
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 7: in that group, but they also weren't playing great. Otherwise

706
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 7: Christian McCaffrey wouldn't have had, you know, felt like what

707
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 7: near two hundred rushing yards. I think that iliand and

708
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 7: Roberts has impressed me the most. He's a downhill sumper.

709
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 7: He is the hardest tackler of that group, but I

710
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 7: think they've got to be better in coverage. Cole Holcom

711
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 7: is very familiar with Nick Chubb. He played against him

712
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 7: when Carolina played Georgia the season open. I think it

713
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 7: was the Chick fil aabewl. I can't remember what year,

714
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 7: but he knows Nick Chubb and knows what he's capable of.

715
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 7: And I think that Fulkal's got to step up and

716
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 7: get to another level. I mean, he was kind of

717
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 7: the one of the prize creation and signings. He was

718
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 7: slowed down a little bit recovering from that foot surgery,

719
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 7: but I think that he needs to be better. And

720
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 7: I think that the way the rotation worked out last

721
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 7: week is that Cole Holcome and Kwan Alexander played more

722
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 7: than a Landon Roberts. I kind of think that Roberts

723
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 7: is gonna end up playing more this week because of

724
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 7: Nick Chubb. But you know, we'll see how that ends

725
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 7: up shaking up. But I think it's going to be

726
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 7: a rotation of those three, and that that Mark Robbinson

727
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 7: their other inside linebacker, it doesn't doesn't have a very

728
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 7: big role.

729
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 4: And then on the back end some new faces as well,

730
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 4: Patrick Peterson, Keanu Neil Chan and Sullivan some new faces

731
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 4: to go with make if it's Patrick Levi Wallace and

732
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 4: Demante Kayz. What did you see from some of those

733
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 4: new guys last week? Sullivan didn't play a ton. They

734
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 4: were in a lot of base defense. But you know,

735
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: Pat Pete goes on his podcast guarantees an interception, says

736
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 4: that the Niners have all these tells and then gives

737
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 4: up two touchdowns to Brandon Ayuk.

738
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: How did that kind of.

739
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Speaker 4: Play and what's kind of your sense of this second

740
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 4: that's got some new faces.

741
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, that wasn't great. I think that Patrick Peterson is

742
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 7: maybe not going to say things like that on his

743
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 7: podcast anymore. You don't want to give that that's an

744
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 7: unforced error, that's that it's free bulletin board material. And

745
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 7: I you know, there was the first touchdown I don't

746
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 7: think was as much Patrick Peterson's fault. Demante Caz went

747
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 7: the wrong way and he he should have been there

748
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 7: to help out. But I think that they've got to

749
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 7: put Patrick Peterson in some better positions. He's not the

750
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,959
Speaker 7: player he used to be. He doesn't have the same

751
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 7: speed to go one on one with some of these guys.

752
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 7: I think that he is more effective in the slot

753
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 7: or sometimes they've even used him in a safety package.

754
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 7: I think that I'd like to see more Joey Porter Junior,

755
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 7: but his tackling isn't I think where they want it

756
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 7: to be to justify playing him more. Kean O'Neil also

757
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 7: did not have the best game. I just think that

758
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 7: this secondary. The secondary was my biggest concern for this

759
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 7: team going into the season, at least defensively, and the

760
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 7: first game did not make me feel better at all.

761
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 7: I felt like, Okay, well, Yep, these are all the

762
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 7: things that I was worried about. I think they really

763
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 7: missed Cam Sutton because he was a dependable guy that

764
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 7: could do a lot of things, and now they've got

765
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 7: a lot of guys trying to fill that role and

766
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 7: the combination isn't quite doing it. You know, you can

767
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 7: have an all Pro guy like Mika Fitzpatrick, but even

768
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 7: if he really wants to and tries, he can't do everything.

769
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 7: So I think that it helps the Steelers that Amari

770
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 7: Cooper is what likely not going to play or definitely

771
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 7: not going to play, because I know that he has

772
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 7: picked apart that secondary in the past. But I still

773
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 7: think that that is an area that teams can and

774
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 7: probably will exploit.

775
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: Brook I'll get you out of here on this one.

776
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: Brown's a favorite over there for the first time since

777
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: eighty nine. If that is, if that doesn't hold, if

778
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh is able to go against what the Sharps think

779
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: this way will go, how will they do it? What

780
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: does a Pittsburgh win look like tonight?

781
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 7: From their perspective, it's got to I think it's they've

782
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 7: got a stop Nickchubb. That is that's the biggest see

783
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 7: and they've got to run the ball more. I mean,

784
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 7: I know that this is an offense that said, look,

785
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 7: I mean, can you pick it through the ball really

786
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 7: well in the preseason, But if they try to lean

787
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 7: on the pass game as much as they did against

788
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 7: the forty nine ers, and I know that a big

789
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 7: part of that was because they've gotten a twenty point

790
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 7: hole early. But I think that they have got to

791
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 7: commit to the run and see where that carries them

792
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 7: and let that open up the passing game. But they

793
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 7: have got to get off to a fast start, and

794
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 7: they cannot get down quickly early because then that causes

795
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 7: them to abandon everything and they're playing catchup. So for

796
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 7: this team to be successful, I mean, Stapnickchubb score early,

797
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 7: don't get down and run the ball.

798
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: Brook, great stuff. Thank you so much for your time.

799
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 2: Greatly appreciate it.

800
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 7: Absolutely thanks guys.

801
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 2: All right, that's our friend Brooke Pryor, ESPNNFL Nation Steelers

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00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,360
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Speaker 2: out on another twisted tea hotline. Gibbe in an me territory.

815
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 2: Give me the lay of the land.

816
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 8: Gibbs, the beautiful sunshine day in the land that smells

817
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 8: like hot dog water, seventy degrees sunny and perfect weather

818
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 8: for a little ass kicking.

819
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, chesty Gibbet. So god, chesty Gibbe.

820
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 5: Let's go. Let's get off the schneide. I've been doing this.

821
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 5: This is year eleven. I haven't won a game over here,

822
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 5: and everybody goes, well, you want a playoff game. I

823
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 5: did win a playoff game. I was at First Entergy,

824
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 5: I was at First Energy, I was the stadium there.

825
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 3: I was there.

826
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 5: I was not I would like to see one for

827
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 5: myself in person, and tonight is the night my friends.

828
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 2: So he had a uh had a great comment for

829
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,959
Speaker 2: me this morning. We had a little chat and he said,

830
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: don't even let him play Renegade, Like, would that be

831
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 2: something if it's so out of control on the third

832
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 2: fourth quarter of that Renegade?

833
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 5: I would I would love nothing more, love nothing more. Actually,

834
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 5: I'd like Renegade, but with the Browns highlights of them

835
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 5: destroying the Steelers, maybe that would make them angry. But

836
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 5: I don't really care if we're up by it enough,

837
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 5: I did. I actually, uh, I actually heard your little

838
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 5: thing today and it was the nicest that you two

839
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 5: have ever played together.

840
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 4: Well, you always played nicely, you don't play nice.

841
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 5: What was it?

842
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: It was professional? Yeah it was. It was big d radio. Yeah,

843
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 2: it was big radio.

844
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 5: Literally. Yeah.

845
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 2: We were doing like real NFL preview, stuffy heavy stuff.

846
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 5: I was literally shaving in the bathroom and I go

847
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 5: out loud. Yeah. Actually it is pretty good. You're on brand.

848
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 5: You know.

849
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 2: We had some real breaking down to Doozy.

850
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 3: We did.

851
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 4: We had to go through it like it is serious.

852
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 4: It's a serious game. It's a serious, very serious game.

853
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those things. Guys, uh and Gibby,

854
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: you're already over there, Hey, I asked brook this. Let

855
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: me get this from you, since you've been over there.

856
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: What you got over there yesterday, probably by six am

857
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: to make sure you got your lines tested.

858
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 5: Yes, I feel like I've been here for a week.

859
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 5: I feel like Philly was just as long.

860
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 2: Give me, give me a temperature of the city of

861
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh on their team today.

862
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 5: Not see not seeing the chestiness, that's for sure. I mean,

863
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 5: they're going to be ready to go tonight. There is,

864
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 5: There is no question they are going to be ready

865
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 5: to go. But I'm not seeing the usual we're Pittsburgh

866
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 5: type deal. So I think there's a little trepidation. I

867
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 5: think there's a little let's see what happens tonight before

868
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 5: we put the put the panic button in.

869
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 4: Okay, it is wild that we're, you know, dealing with

870
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 4: a situation here where Brooke Pryor said the same thing.

871
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 4: If the Browns could just get out to a fast start,

872
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 4: put a touchdown on him, get a three and oh

873
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 4: three and out, get the ball back score again, get

874
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 4: another three out like this place will boo the Steelers.

875
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 4: We have a chance to fully turn that crowd against them,

876
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 4: and I think that is that is exciting, and that

877
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 4: is something in all my time that certainly has not

878
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 4: been the case.

879
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't, I don't know. Yeah, I don't. I'm

880
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 5: trying to think up a moment and I would I

881
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 5: would say probably not. But there is a universal hatred

882
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 5: for Matt Canada here, that's for sure.

883
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

884
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: Well, it's easier to blame him than blame the quarterback.

885
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 5: Right, I guess. I'm fascinated to see what he does tonight. Yeah.

886
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: I was talking to somebody this morning Post Gazette writer

887
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: who's saying that his contention was that that while the

888
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 2: offensive line wasn't great, it was far from the problem.

889
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: That Pickett was running into sacks, missing open guys down

890
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: the field, that type of thing. And I said, well,

891
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 2: if that's the case, they have bigger problems because that's

892
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: a quarterback issue. That's not that's not design or lack

893
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 2: of help up front. So it's all gonna be stressed tonight.

894
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 2: That much, we know. There was very little stress week.

895
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: One of the over unders boys, you guys both went

896
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: three and two and the over under numbers very very solid.

897
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: So we're off to a game over five hundred start

898
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: as we begin over unders week two tonight, and we

899
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: will start here with Z on this one. We are

900
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 2: looking for a receiving yardage. Receiving yardage Elijah Moore over

901
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: under George Pickens.

902
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take the over on that.

903
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 4: I think if Amari is limited or if he doesn't go,

904
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 4: Elijah Moore is gonna play a big role for the Browns.

905
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: And you know you gotta at least and this is

906
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 3: one of where you use your head.

907
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 4: Pickens, come this a little bit, you know, banged up

908
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 4: with the handle, hobbled, Yeah, you want to. I think

909
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 4: if it was normal circumstances everything together, I would take Pickens.

910
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna take given his.

911
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 4: Injury, and give them the fact that I think Elijah

912
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 4: plays a bigger role in the goal Elijah wore get it.

913
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say under because I feel like maybe RB

914
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 5: two tonight is Elijah Moore and maybe he has more

915
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 5: yards rushing than he does receiving.

916
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 3: How about can we get how about can we get

917
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 3: total yards?

918
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: Bo a total yard to the committee? Should we get

919
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 2: in total yards? You know, I don't even know, I

920
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 2: don't know what he doesn't think it's fair overruled, not

921
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: total yards, just receiving yards, you know, the voice of

922
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: reason Una over.

923
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on back there with Jacob

924
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 5: Square today.

925
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 3: He's killing her?

926
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: Are you killing me? He's dominant, Paul.

927
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 5: I hear laughter in the background. I'm like, oh God,

928
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 5: what is going on there?

929
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: Living his best life. He's got a catering set up

930
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 2: in there, got some cocktails rolling, he does, don't even

931
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: have a shirt on. For God's sakes, Nick does a

932
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb touches Gibby the over under this week twenty

933
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: three and a half. Twenty three and a half, Nick

934
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: Chubb touches Gibbet.

935
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 5: Over we're going to have one hundred yard mark because

936
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 5: we're going to be running out the clock in the

937
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 5: fourth quarter.

938
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 4: All right, I'm with Gibbe on this one over as well.

939
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna get a lot of Nick Chubb

940
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 4: this week next.

941
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 5: Over very Sibbil over under here for two weeks.

942
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: That's because we're in three different locations. Who know's over

943
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 2: here without a shirt on? I don't I can't tell

944
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: if Griff's got pants on. I don't know what's going on.

945
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson total offense gibbe or is it usy? It's

946
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: usy two forty nine point five. He was about two

947
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 2: oh five week one over to forty nine point five

948
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: over over, gibbe.

949
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 5: Over it's gonna be clear. Tempts in the load mid sixties. Baby,

950
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 5: come on, let a seat tonight.

951
00:44:58,680 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 3: It isln a seat.

952
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: Let us let a seed over there for God's sakes.

953
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: Next over under sacks, interceptions and fumbles. Darn it, give

954
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 2: it by the way. Uh yeah, you got this one

955
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 2: last week.

956
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: You got it.

957
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: It's a new year.

958
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 9: That's it.

959
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 5: Everybody. We'll talk to you tomorrow.

960
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 3: Give back, keep it going.

961
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: The number this week four and a half, give a

962
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: four and a half. Saxon turned over and a half

963
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 2: over over over over over. He's predicting a slumping I

964
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 2: love it. I four and a half. Big number, z

965
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 2: E big number.

966
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 3: It is a big number.

967
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 4: I think you know Miles Garrett has a sack in

968
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 4: six six straight games against AFC North opponents. I think

969
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 4: we'll be able to get to if you look at

970
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 4: last week five sacks, two picks for picking. That's seven

971
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 4: right there. This has to be slumptown. Let's go over, next.

972
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: Over under.

973
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: The actual it's it's surprisingly low. I guess we were

974
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 2: way under. Last week we were forty seven and a half.

975
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: We were way under. This week it is thirty eight

976
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: and a half. Doctor Z.

977
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 4: I feel like, man, it's tough because I don't liked unders.

978
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 4: I take them at times. I do think we should

979
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 4: be able to really stifle this offense. But I could

980
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 4: see a you said thirty eight and a half.

981
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 2: Thirty eight and a half.

982
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty seven to ten doesn't get you there, twenty

983
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 4: four to fourteen doesn't get you there.

984
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 3: Do we put thirty on them?

985
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 2: Oh?

986
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 6: Boy?

987
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 3: Sure? Over?

988
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, get it.

989
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 5: I'm going over, just barely, but over because oh yeah, my.

990
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: Gosh, slump city. You guys are saying slump city.

991
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 5: Hold, let's go. Let me let me real quick, because

992
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 5: I know Joe Hayden's coming on Factor Fiction. The Browns

993
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 5: have to score more than they scored last week.

994
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: To win fiction.

995
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 2: Don't you think, all right we can beat him? Twenty

996
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: three to ten, twenty one ten? Yeah? Yeah, No, I

997
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: don't think so. I think you say, do you think fact?

998
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,479
Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna score.

999
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1000
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 3: I know the total is gonna be tough if they

1001
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 3: don't score. But I'm I'm.

1002
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: Happy to lose unless you go crazy slump.

1003
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 3: Crazy slump forty crazy sleep Bill.

1004
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: I love it.

1005
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm happy to relive nineteen eighty nine in person.

1006
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 5: I'd love that.

1007
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 2: Let's go, Gibby, have a great call tonight. Uh, great

1008
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: management of the call tonight, my friend, and uh, great

1009
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 2: checking up with You're gonna be gonna be a big

1010
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,959
Speaker 2: night tonight, over and over in the Steel City, my friend.

1011
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 5: Gentlemen looking forward to champedge wishes tomorrow while we do

1012
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 5: our victory Tuesday.

1013
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: Oh, they're gonna be so chesty if that happens, it's

1014
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 2: gonna go. Yes, good lord, all right, the great Gibbe

1015
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: over in Pittsburgh, coming up next to Great Joe Hayden,

1016
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: who's been on both sides of this rivalry. Give us

1017
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,480
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1018
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1034
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Speaker 2: is a vitriol that is pretty pretty well founded on

1035
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: both sides. From the from the fans perspective, you're in

1036
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: the unique position having played for both. What can you

1037
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 2: tell us about the two fans? What are some of

1038
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 2: the differences and what are the what are the similarities?

1039
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 9: Uh So, I think that there's there's some there's some

1040
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 9: big differences and there's some big similarities. I think one

1041
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 9: of the biggest differences I like that the Cleveland Browns

1042
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,919
Speaker 9: fans just not having the level of loyalty from from

1043
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 9: the team not having as much success as that. I

1044
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 9: think they would would normally do that. Cleveland Browns fans

1045
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 9: are just so so loyal. I think Pittsburgh is I

1046
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 9: love I love the steel Stands too. They they embraced

1047
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 9: me when I came in. But they're just more I

1048
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 9: think they're so accustomed to winning or feeling a certain

1049
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 9: type of way that they're a little more uh more,

1050
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 9: a little a little more bougie.

1051
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 4: They've enjoyed a lot of success, joy one a lot, yeah,

1052
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 4: one a lot. They've expected to win, and you know,

1053
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 4: I think that could be a factor tonight.

1054
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this.

1055
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 4: If the Browns get out to a fast start, if

1056
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 4: the defense suffocates, you know, the Steelers offense early, you

1057
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 4: know that the stadium could actually turn it against the Steelers.

1058
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 4: We heard them boo in the opener against the Niners.

1059
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 4: What would would that have an impact if all of

1060
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 4: a sudden, you know, Akerscher Stadium, hinz Field in my mind,

1061
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 4: if they're booing the Steelers, I mean, I think so.

1062
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 9: You know, at the same time, you always say you're

1063
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 9: out there, you're doing the job, but you get your

1064
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 9: home stadium at the beginning of the season. You want

1065
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 9: your crowd to be behind you, obviously, and just sometimes

1066
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 9: you know, if it doesn't start off well, you're doing

1067
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 9: a lot of punts, a lot of three and outs.

1068
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 9: You know that they do not like not scoring points.

1069
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 3: No, they certainly don't.

1070
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 4: And that's a question, right if you were going to defend,

1071
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 4: you know, this offense, and they won't have Deontay Johnson,

1072
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 4: who I think is one of the best route runners

1073
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 4: in the league. Pickens is a little bit banged up.

1074
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 4: You know, if you're the Browns, what do you think

1075
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 4: is the priority today? You got to stop nause or

1076
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 4: you're worried about anything in the passing game, how would

1077
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 4: you kind of house what would your approach be on

1078
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 4: the defensive side of the ball today.

1079
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 9: Well, my biggest thing, for sure be is to stop Nase.

1080
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 9: You gotta dominate the line of You got to make

1081
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 9: sure you just can't get him started, because that again,

1082
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 9: Kenny Thicket just some time to be able to get

1083
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 9: the linebackers moving up and be able to have some

1084
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 9: more shots. So I think if we can get Najie

1085
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 9: Harris stopped and he doesn't run the ball too well,

1086
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 9: just to start at the beginning of the game. I

1087
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 9: think that that will kind of set the tone well.

1088
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: Joe, and you know, look, we saw what happened to

1089
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: them in the opener against San Francisco, where I mean,

1090
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: that doesn't happen very often, where they just kind of

1091
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: get bullied, but San Francisco bullied them and punched them

1092
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: in the mouth a lot. We're built similarly, right with

1093
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 2: the defense in front. They're probably a little better at linebacker,

1094
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: we might be a little bit better at corner. It

1095
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: feels like this is the styles for fight type situations.

1096
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 2: From the Pittsburgh perspective. This is not an ideal matchup

1097
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 2: based on personnel.

1098
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 5: Is it.

1099
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 9: I wouldn't say so. I think, especially now with the

1100
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 9: way that the defense has been playing with the D line.

1101
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 9: You said it's the linebackers are still really really good,

1102
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 9: but I think it's the D line and the cornerbacks

1103
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 9: that really set the toe for the Cleveland Brown defense.

1104
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 9: I mean, last game when they played against Cincinnati and

1105
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 9: they Joe Burrow through for under one hundred yards, that

1106
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 9: was impressive. They looked like they were flying around and

1107
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 9: the one thing I loved about that game was they

1108
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 9: looked like they were having so much fun together just

1109
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 9: jumping around, celebrating, cheerming, and that's the energy part that

1110
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 9: you need. Like they looked like they were enjoying the

1111
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 9: game and just dominating and then Miles being able to

1112
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 9: come through at the last place for the sacks. So

1113
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 9: I think the defensive line and the cornerback position is

1114
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 9: going to be really really important for the Browns, and

1115
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 9: I think they're the set of stars on the defense.

1116
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, how fun is it when you got guys up

1117
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 4: front as a corner When you guys got guys up

1118
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 4: front who can get after the quarterback like that?

1119
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 3: What does that do for you?

1120
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 4: How does that change the way maybe your thinking when

1121
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 4: you know that the ball's got to come out early.

1122
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 9: It's just a way better understanding when you know they

1123
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 9: feel like if they have a one on one matchup,

1124
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 9: they should be winning their one on one matchess within

1125
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 9: three to three seconds. So when you're out there playing

1126
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 9: man to man, it's like I'm playing man the man.

1127
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 9: You're playing man and man you beat your one on

1128
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 9: one is everybody knowing that they have your back. So

1129
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 9: basically times when I'm playing was like when I was

1130
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 9: with TJ. Watt or Cam Hayward, if they had a

1131
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 9: one on one. They felt like if they didn't win

1132
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 9: with him three seconds, then they made us cover longer

1133
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 9: that that was their bad. So having the defensive line

1134
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 9: and having the dB being on the same thingge like, look, guys,

1135
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 9: if you're out here in this covers, you know what

1136
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 9: I'm saying. You're gonna have to win your one on

1137
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 9: ones and then just everybody keeping each other accountable and

1138
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 9: wanting to win that one on ones.

1139
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 4: You mentioned Cam Hayward and you would know better than

1140
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 4: anybody what does he mean to that team on the field?

1141
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 4: What does he mean to that team and the locker room?

1142
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 4: Is a present six straight Pro Bowls, three time first

1143
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 4: team All Pro, seventy eight and a half career sacks.

1144
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 4: The guy is a stud. He will be out. I

1145
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 4: think that this is a massive loss, but how big

1146
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 4: is it?

1147
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 9: Joe, He's one of the guys that was the cornerstone

1148
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 9: of that team for just for years that they've been

1149
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 9: out there, So he's kind of outrelated him to the

1150
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 9: to the Joe Thomas when I was in Cleveland, he

1151
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 9: was when I came to Pittsburgh. He was kind of

1152
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 9: that guy the one that everybody looked at that did

1153
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 9: his thing the right way. Was just a grown man

1154
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 9: and just handled his business just super maturely. So I

1155
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 9: think not only just his leadership and his talent on

1156
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 9: the field, it's going to definitely hurt off the field too,

1157
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 9: because he's just the one that always just keeps the

1158
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 9: camaraderie up.

1159
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 2: Joe. That defense still has some big time star power.

1160
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: High Smith and what obviously defensive player of the year guy,

1161
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: How do you how should the Browns attack for them?

1162
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 2: If there is an advantage that Pittsburgh has definitively, it

1163
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 2: would be those two edges against r two tackles. How

1164
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 2: should Kevin Stefanski attack those two?

1165
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 9: You should try to chip them. You should try to

1166
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 9: help them chip them, because I feel like the outside

1167
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 9: rush is going to be a lot more something in

1168
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 9: his side. So just made sure that you had that

1169
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 9: at the tight end, at a receiver hanging off to

1170
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 9: the side, and just make sure you had those chip

1171
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 9: blocks and make sure you keep him accounted for because

1172
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 9: j Watt is a game wreckord. My high Smith is

1173
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 9: also become one of those guys. But I think if

1174
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 9: you can keep TJ. They had two sack clacks and

1175
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 9: TJ had both of them, so just making sure that always, always,

1176
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 9: no matter what, keep an eye on.

1177
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is. He is a dangerous man.

1178
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 4: Had three sacks in the opener, high Smith's averaging two

1179
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 4: sacks a game against the Browns last three. I think

1180
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 4: that's the one area that the Browns really need to

1181
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 4: be stout on those edges against watt Heiss. But you

1182
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 4: always have to be cognizant of where Minka Fitzpatrick is.

1183
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 4: He scored five times, including once against the Browns in

1184
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 4: twenty twenty, but five defensive touchdowns the most in the league,

1185
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 4: nineteen career picks last year at six tight for most

1186
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:19,760
Speaker 4: of the league.

1187
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 3: What makes Mika Fitzpatrick so great?

1188
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 4: You've played with a lot of great guys on the

1189
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 4: back end, But what made Meka Fitzpatrick stand out?

1190
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 3: And why is he so dangerous?

1191
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 9: A right, he has it all. You know, He's strong,

1192
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 9: he's fast, his attention to detail. He's also one of

1193
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 9: those dudes like the coach on the field. He just

1194
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 9: he loves the game and he doesn't do anything basically

1195
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 9: but do study. So I mean on the planes until

1196
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 9: the last second of the game. I'm in meeting. He's

1197
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 9: making sure he gets that extra that little titbit, that

1198
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 9: little note, that little when the receiver lines up this

1199
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 9: far off side of the line, he's going to run

1200
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 9: this route. So he's always just trying to get that

1201
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 9: little advantage, and him being that talented as he is,

1202
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 9: is already going to be able to be there. So

1203
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 9: I mean, I think he's just love of the game

1204
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 9: and is studying it as on what makes that gives

1205
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 9: them that little extra.

1206
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: Joe, We've been talking kind of throughout the first hour

1207
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 2: of the show that you know, most of the matchups

1208
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 2: favor the Browns. The Browns have the deeper, more talented team.

1209
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 2: I think most people would say that. But then when

1210
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: you think about it's it's the stuff that you that

1211
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 2: are not physical that that maybe they have the advantage of.

1212
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: It's it's playing over there, it's renegade, it's it's all

1213
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 2: of that stuff. There's like a mythology right to playing

1214
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: over there. How real is all of that stuff when

1215
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: you're when you're one of the guys who's between the lines.

1216
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,439
Speaker 9: Well, well, when you want of that, I say, when

1217
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 9: I was in Pittsburgh, they just feel as though they

1218
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 9: should win, you know, And and that's one thing I

1219
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 9: think they know that when in Cleveland just becoming and

1220
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 9: now becoming about coming to make sure they can go

1221
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 9: into their house and win some games. I think it's

1222
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 9: the whole within and it's just been a long like

1223
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 9: legacy now. But I think starting off the new with

1224
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 9: with Miles, with getting Deshaun Watson here, with the Browns

1225
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 9: finally starting off, you know, winning the first game of

1226
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 9: the season that has happened in years. I think they

1227
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 9: just just got to flip the script them saying Cleveland

1228
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 9: is Cleveland, like them just understanding, like everybody's going to

1229
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 9: play with you until you start making things happen. And

1230
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 9: I think this team is the one that's like, all right,

1231
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 9: we get it. You just got to come out there

1232
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 9: and the team and win games. And if you can

1233
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,720
Speaker 9: come out there and the minnegade and all that stuff,

1234
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 9: it's working. But when you're winning that, Rennegate could also

1235
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 9: probably get to get the Browns hype. I'm just gonna

1236
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 9: be in the mood and you're out there. I mean,

1237
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 9: they could do a little both.

1238
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 4: Joe, what would it mean if somebody's been on both

1239
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 4: sides of it. The Browns have not won there in

1240
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 4: the regular season since two thousand and three. So that

1241
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 4: even predated your time there. What would it mean for

1242
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 4: the Browns to go on the road into Pittsburgh Monday

1243
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 4: night football and beat them, to go to two and zero.

1244
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 9: I mean, that's what that's It would be huge, They

1245
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 9: would be huge. I think this would be one of

1246
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 9: the biggest things for the Browns in a very very

1247
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 9: long time, and just for just for the division to

1248
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 9: see and just for them to know that they can

1249
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 9: do it theirselves. You know, I always my whole career there,

1250
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 9: you wanted to win the first game of the season.

1251
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 9: You wanted to go one to know, was never able

1252
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 9: to start. Want to know, you go through the whole

1253
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 9: training camp. So right now you can go there and

1254
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 9: you can be Cincinnati and you can come and beat

1255
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 9: beat Pittsburgh. I mean you're letting the division though, and

1256
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 9: that you're not playing and you're here to stay. So

1257
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 9: I think I'll just do a lot for the team,

1258
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 9: for the morale, for the city, for all of Cleveland.

1259
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: Jose Brown's one over there in the regular seasons, and

1260
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,919
Speaker 2: so three haven't been favored over there since nineteen eighty nine.

1261
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: It's hard stuff to try to wrap your head around.

1262
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 2: What's your what's your feeling tonight. How do you think

1263
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 2: this one goes over there?

1264
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 9: Man, I think it's going to be. I think it's

1265
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 9: going to be a scratching cull game if Cleveland can

1266
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 9: get out early, you know, because I just I think

1267
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 9: we're Pittsburgh not having Cam.

1268
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 5: Uh.

1269
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 9: That's that's gonna help Nick Chubb and mister Chubb as

1270
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 9: a coach. T calls them being able to get that

1271
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 9: run game started. And if he can do that, you know,

1272
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 9: Cleveland can control the clock. I think they might win

1273
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 9: in a low scoring game by twenty twenty one, twenty

1274
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 9: one eighteen.

1275
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 2: Tight, tight, gonna be a fun one over there. Appreciate

1276
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 2: your perspective so much, my friend.

1277
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 9: Thanks Joe, oh, my man, thanks for having me.

1278
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 5: Guys, all right, that's up.

1279
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: Former Pro Bowl corner Joe Hayden, who was on the

1280
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 2: Twisted Tea Hotline brought to you by Twisty Hardeed T,

1281
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 2: official sponsor of your Cleveland Browns, Keep it Twisted Cleveland.

1282
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 2: One of those few guys who was great in both uniforms.

1283
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 4: Yes, and a guy who understands it and really understands it,

1284
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 4: certainly from the Brown side more but understood what it

1285
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 4: meant to be a Steeler to get to play in

1286
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 4: the playoffs, to have that success there. Joe Hayden one

1287
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 4: of the best guys, and I think that you know,

1288
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 4: his insights on Cam Hayward right there were significant, and

1289
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 4: he gets it and he gets what this could mean

1290
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 4: for the Cleveland Browns. This is a big one. We

1291
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 4: are the better team. They need to go out there

1292
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 4: and they need to execute and do it tonight.

1293
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 2: I also think the fact that he picked at twenty

1294
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 2: one eighteen tells you how real belief in all of

1295
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 2: those things are, right, Yeah, because we acknowledge that we're

1296
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 2: better at almost everything. Almost every matchup favors the Browns

1297
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Speaker 2: except for those two ends against our two tackles. Everything

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00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: else favors us. And yet it's he's not picking it

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00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 2: thirty eight seventeen, he's picking it twenty one to eighteen.

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00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 2: So that's right on that line. So it tells you

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Speaker 2: how tough it is to go over there and try

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Speaker 2: to break that team's will.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's I think that's part of what this

1304
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 4: is gonna be, right, break this team's will, establish your

1305
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 4: physical dominance, and when you get the opportunity to make

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Speaker 4: some big plays, make them. I think this game will

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01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 4: come down to a few big plays, and I think

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Speaker 4: that we have the talent to be the team that

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Speaker 4: makes them the majority of those big plays, especially when

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Speaker 4: they matter, and that's why the Browns are gonna win.

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Speaker 2: We talk about all of these dates in years gone by,

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Speaker 2: there's another one that can get kind of shut up

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Speaker 2: tonight as well. We will have that in our Keys

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Speaker 2: for your Keys to Victory Tonight is the Browns attempt

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01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 2: to go to and zero for the first time in

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01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 2: thirty years. Good lower doctor Z. It would be good

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Speaker 2: to stop talking about all this stuff from years gone by.

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Speaker 3: How do we do it.

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01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 4: By just going out there and executing. We are the

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Speaker 4: better team. We'll start, which is some tangible things, right,

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01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 4: we said it. If you don't lose the turnover battle,

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Speaker 4: I believe the Browns win this game.

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01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 3: Take care of the football.

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01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 4: You cannot make a habit of turning the ball over

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01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 4: twice and losing twice, losing turnovers twice in opponent seratories

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01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 4: and winning football games. Yes, the Browns did in Week one.

1339
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 4: Not a recipe for sustained success. Number two. Dominate on

1340
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 4: the ground. This is a game where that matters. It's

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty three. It's a different NFL. You gotta be

1342
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Speaker 4: able to throw the ball. I get all that, and

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01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 4: I think the Browns have the better passing attack, but

1344
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 4: they must die dominatee on the ground offensively behind Nick Chubb, defensively,

1345
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 4: stopping Naji Harris and putting this game in the hands

1346
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 4: of Kenny Pickett in third and long obvious passing situations.

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Speaker 4: I really think if the Browns do that, they will

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Speaker 4: cripple the Steelers. Offensively, and I think our offense and

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01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 4: our ground game with Nick Chubb has the opportunity to

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Speaker 4: break the spirit of the Steelers defensively, and if the

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Speaker 4: Browns do those things, they will absolutely but win this

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Speaker 4: football game. Because the Steelers are a team that I

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01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 4: think is more akin to what the Browns used to be.

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Speaker 3: They've got to follow.

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Speaker 4: A fairly particular script of getting a lead, of running

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Speaker 4: the football, of being, you know, making plays on defense

1357
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 4: to kind of ice that down taking the football away.

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Speaker 4: They can't win an even game with a team that's

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Speaker 4: better than them. The Browns are better, They're not gonna

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Speaker 4: win an even game. So make it an even game.

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Speaker 2: The one of the things situationally that I think will

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Speaker 2: be key, and Stefanski's pretty good about this. We don't

1363
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 2: get off schedule much offensively, So what I mean by

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01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 2: that is we're not often in third and forever, third

1365
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Speaker 2: and long. That's when Watt and high Smith can feast. Yes,

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Speaker 2: So managing those types of situations, to me is critical

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01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 2: in the operation because you don't want to be in

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01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 2: a and Sephaski's great with this. We're not in it much.

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Speaker 2: It's not often we're in third and long but when

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Speaker 2: you are that's those that's when high Smith and Watt

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Speaker 2: can reak absolutely havoc on an offensive front. And if

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Speaker 2: you're looking for one point of like, boy, that's the

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Speaker 2: one I don't love. It's just it is for sure,

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Speaker 2: And it's not that we love everything we've seen from

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Speaker 2: Dwan Jones. This is just a totally different animal of

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01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 2: a test with what now. He's played great pass rusher

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Speaker 2: rushers at the University of Georgia. Jalen Carter's second in

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01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 2: in college in the NFL. Right now is a rookie

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01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 2: and pressures behind, He's behind Parsons, He's only behind Parsons

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Speaker 2: and Hutchinson, those two are tied Carter's second. So like

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Speaker 2: you've played, but this is a different animal. This is

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Speaker 2: a pro. This is this is t J Watt. So

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01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 2: how Dewan handles that, how big Danos handles that? And

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01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 2: then can Jed handle the other side and play to.

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Speaker 4: Where he was drafted, play like the tenth overall pick.

1386
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 4: Be a lockdown left tackle, Be what Joe Thomas was

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Speaker 4: for this organization. And I'm not saying you have to

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Speaker 4: be a Hall of Famer, but be reliable and do

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Speaker 4: not give up that game changing or season changing play,

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Speaker 4: and unfortunately it was the you know, Trey Henderson getting

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01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 4: around Jed Wills that led not only to an incomplete pass,

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Speaker 4: it led to the injury of Jack cons It's not

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Speaker 4: just fault, nobody would ever say that, but that pressure

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01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 4: is what ultimately led to that injury. And so we've

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Speaker 4: got to be more sturdy on those outsides. I think

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Speaker 4: that that is so important. I think our combination in

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Speaker 4: the middle, buttonio postic teller is going to dominate. With

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Speaker 4: no Cam Hayward out there, I think we're going to dominate.

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01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 4: Kim Hayward historically is given Joel Potonio a tough time.

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Speaker 2: He's been a tough time, he yes.

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Speaker 4: But he is gone, and I expect us to handle

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Speaker 4: them on the interior significantly.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's you know, I know that there's a

1404
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 2: section of the fan base that wants to see like

1405
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 2: this explosive to Shaun Watson performance. It can wait. Yes,

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01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 2: I'd love to see it too, but it's not needed.

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01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 2: Hopefully it's not needed tonight. I I think if it's

1408
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: needed tonight, then the game doesn't go the way that

1409
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 2: you want it to be scripted. I would say that no, Uh,

1410
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 2: this should be a This should be Nick Chubb and

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Speaker 2: a heavy dose, and really their inability to handle him.

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Speaker 2: You heard Joe Hayden talking about the two ends, about

1413
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 2: chipping them without Cam. We've talked about it in nauseum

1414
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 2: in terms of an ability to just run it, run

1415
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 2: it between the guards almost and just force that that

1416
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 2: type of action and their their inability to stop it.

1417
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Speaker 2: So this feels like a Nick Chubb game and it

1418
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 2: he was so quietly great Week one. He's been so

1419
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 2: quietly great his entire career on Monday Night football, this

1420
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 2: type of audience feels to me like he could have

1421
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 2: one tonight. It feels like it's set up and if

1422
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 2: it is, that's a game scripted for it that fares

1423
01:05:58,720 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 2: very well for our fortunes.

1424
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Speaker 4: It does, and that's what we talked about, you know, you,

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01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 4: Nick Chubb. You look at it in his career against

1426
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Speaker 4: this this Pittsburgh Steelers team. When he does well, the

1427
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 4: Browns do well. Three and oh, when he's rushed for

1428
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Speaker 4: more than eighty yards against the Steelers, five and one.

1429
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 4: When he has not hit that threshold, averaging just seventy

1430
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Speaker 4: two yards a game against them for his career, just

1431
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 4: eighty two total yards, three total touchdowns, And one of

1432
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 4: the weird stats is, you know, Nick Chubb does not

1433
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 4: have a rushing touchdown now in his last seven games.

1434
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 4: He caught a touchdown, but he does not having rushing

1435
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Speaker 4: touchdown in the last seven games with the Cleveland Brown

1436
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Speaker 4: So I want to see him run it and I

1437
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 4: want to see him get into the end zone as well.

1438
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and from from their side of things, it's there

1439
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 2: is you do you read the stuff that's being written

1440
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 2: over there, You listen to the sports talk radio over there,

1441
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 2: you talk to the people on social who cover that team.

1442
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 2: There is a lot of it feels like it's simmering,

1443
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 2: right with what their offense was Week one with Matt Canada.

1444
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 2: He's getting a lot obviously of the blame on what's happening.

1445
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 3: They were.

1446
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 2: There was a lot of propping up of Kenny Pickett

1447
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 2: in this In this preseason, a lot of people pick

1448
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 2: the Steelers to win the division. Almost everybody picked him

1449
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 2: to make the playoffs. Hey, that's smart. They always have

1450
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 2: a winning record under Tomlin. It's always been the case.

1451
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 2: But I do think that you made a great point.

1452
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 2: I think earlier in terms of getting the first couple

1453
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 2: of series if you can get a three and out,

1454
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 2: if defensively you can get them off the field and

1455
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 2: put some sort of points on the board. Two three

1456
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 2: and outs to start for Pittsburgh, I think could have

1457
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 2: a dramatically negative effect on that building over there, out

1458
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 2: of a dramatically negative effect on a second year quarterback

1459
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 2: who's looking to have some moments. He had a couple

1460
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 2: of fourth quarter comebacks last year, but consistently he's just

1461
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 2: not been there. And it was probably worse in Week

1462
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 2: one than I think even statistically it looked. Yeah, so

1463
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 2: there is a simmering nervousness over there for sure.

1464
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I there.

1465
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 4: This is the first time in my time with the

1466
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 4: Browns going there where you felt like, if you had this,

1467
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 4: if you get to a certain start over the course

1468
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 4: of the first quarter, you could completely turn that crowd

1469
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 4: against the Steelers. That's never even been something that's even

1470
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 4: entered my mind honestly before going over there. This is

1471
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 4: an opportunity to do that because of the way their

1472
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 4: offense look, because of the fact they're coming off of

1473
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 4: a blowout. The Browns are coming off of a blowout win.

1474
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 4: You know, this is I think this could get real ugly,

1475
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 4: really quickly, and that's on the Browns to execute early.

1476
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 4: I think it's very important how we start offensively and

1477
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 4: defensively in this game, because you really have a chance

1478
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 4: to almost just suck the life out of that building

1479
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 4: and always suck the life out of it, but turn

1480
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:28,719
Speaker 4: it against the home team.

1481
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, yeah, you know, we know what that can be.

1482
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 2: You deal with this. Ohio Stadium does this from time

1483
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 2: to time, Like that crowd that building can get nervy

1484
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 2: in a second, just because they're so used to all

1485
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 2: the success, and it can start to unravel the home team.

1486
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 2: I've seen it happen over there where they have some

1487
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 2: ridiculous losses that you wouldn't expect. It can happen in

1488
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 2: our building where it turns and there's a power in that.

1489
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 2: We talk about all of the mystical things around playing

1490
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 2: night games over there and playing in that building. A

1491
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 2: lot of that stuff's very real, but some of it

1492
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 2: can go the other way if it goes bad early

1493
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 2: for them over there. Your forecast was in by Carrier

1494
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 2: Carrier Turnity Experts Temps in the mid sixties Clear Skies

1495
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 2: for kickoff over at Akrascher Stadium in Pittsburgh Top five

1496
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 2: atmosphere for you Pittsburgh at night.

1497
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, no doubt. It's an awesome stadium.

1498
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 4: It's an awesome venue, and I've only seen bad things

1499
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 4: happen there, with the exception of one time when there

1500
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 4: was nobody there so there wasn't an atmosphere at all

1501
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 4: when the Browns won that playoff game. I'm very excited

1502
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 4: to be there and have an atmosphere and have that

1503
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 4: hopefully be a sad stadium at the end of the game.

1504
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 3: That is not something I've experienced yet.

1505
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 2: The greatest thing in sport is a full throat place

1506
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 2: and something good happens for the home team. The next

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Speaker 2: coolest thing in sport is a full full stands place,

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Speaker 2: shut up, quiet because of something that the opposition has done.

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Speaker 3: Just silent. The silence will be golden.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly will. All Right. One of the guys who's

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Speaker 2: going to play a factor in this is Anthony Walker.

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Speaker 4: of the show, Brown's captain Anthony Walker a walk. What

1522
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 4: did it mean to you to come back and get

1523
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 4: on the field against the Cincinnati Bengals in Week one?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it was exciting, man, just to be out there

1525
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,799
Speaker 11: with my teammates, a lot of guys that I credit

1526
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 11: my rehab journey to, you know, guys showing up every

1527
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 11: day just giving me the confidence that I can, that

1528
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 11: I could come back, that I could you know, regain

1529
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 11: form and help his team in any way possible that

1530
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 11: I can.

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Speaker 6: So it was fun, man.

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01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 11: It was exciting that the crowd was really turned you know,

1533
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 11: obviously the players were turned up the whole game, you know,

1534
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 11: with the weather and everything like that. You know, just

1535
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,839
Speaker 11: to feel that all the emotions. You know, obviously myself,

1536
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 11: you know, first game back, but you know, the first

1537
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 11: home opener gets a division opponent, Battle of Ohio Part one,

1538
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 11: you know, it was exciting, man, excited to be a part.

1539
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 4: Of when you kind of visualize when you're alone doing

1540
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,799
Speaker 4: your rehab, all the work to get back, you visualize

1541
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 4: and then you guys go out there and turn in

1542
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 4: a performance like that in the first one back. Did

1543
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 4: that even exceed you know what you thought it could

1544
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 4: have been like out there?

1545
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt.

1546
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 11: For me, I was more I didn't care about, you know,

1547
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 11: myself and like individual statistics at that point because I

1548
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:46,600
Speaker 11: know that road, that journey was. It was not just

1549
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 11: about myself, you know. It was a lot of guys,

1550
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 11: like I said, that really helped me during that time,

1551
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 11: and a lot of guys that made some huge plays.

1552
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 11: You talk about Miles MJ, Greg Newsome, Denzel Ward, Grant

1553
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 11: del Pit, like those are guys that really helped me

1554
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 11: throughout my rehab process. So to watch those guys go

1555
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 11: out there and you know, put a complete performance like

1556
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 11: that together, you know, and then obviously the team the

1557
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 11: way we we all fought together, offense, defense, special teams,

1558
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 11: you know, through everything. Man, for me, it was it

1559
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 11: was surreal because that's what you played the game for,

1560
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 11: that's what you get back for. There were days and

1561
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 11: you know, during my rehab where you know, I thought

1562
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 11: I would never be able to play the game again.

1563
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 11: It just didn't in some days, just wasn't clicking, you know.

1564
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 11: My my body just wasn't you know, responding the way

1565
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 11: I wanted it to, you know. But I credit my

1566
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 11: you know, obviously, my faith, you know in God, my

1567
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 11: family obviously, and then you know, my teammates. Man, they

1568
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 11: were a huge part of this whole process. So just

1569
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 11: to be back out there with those guys, it was

1570
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 11: huge for me.

1571
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 4: Was it helpful to have a tak Taki in your

1572
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 4: room with you throughout this process? And I know he

1573
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 4: got injured, you know, later on in the season, but

1574
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 4: you guys spent this entire offseason together getting back.

1575
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt. We talked about that the whole time.

1576
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 11: I think the best part about it for us is

1577
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 11: that we you know, obviously everybody in our room can

1578
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 11: play at every position, but no, the fact that me

1579
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 11: and him could you know, just get get help each other,

1580
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 11: get you know, each other's feet wet. You know, I'm

1581
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 11: not playing every snap, he's not playing every snap. We're

1582
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 11: you know, rotating, We're getting some good, you know, good

1583
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 11: a good mix in there. So we're both just getting

1584
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 11: our feet wet. You know, we haven't played in so long.

1585
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 11: Me I haven't played in almost a year. Him you

1586
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 11: know now eight months, nine months. So you know, to

1587
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 11: have that someone that you can lean on and you know,

1588
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 11: can help you throughout the whole process. And even now

1589
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 11: that we're still getting back, you know, we're you know,

1590
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 11: we're not even close to where we want to be

1591
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:35,680
Speaker 11: at the end of the season, you know, both of us.

1592
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 11: So to have somebody like that that's going through the

1593
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 11: ground with you is always huge.

1594
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 3: A second level.

1595
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 4: You look in front of you and you see the

1596
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 4: guys at the first level, and you mentioned Miles earlier. Well,

1597
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 4: it in comes Dalvin Tomlinson, in comes Zadarius Smith, in

1598
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 4: comes Obokaronko, in comes Shelby Harris, the drafted guys. Maurice

1599
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 4: Hurst is new this year as well. Seven guys in

1600
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 4: that defensive line in brand new.

1601
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 2: How much nicer is that are?

1602
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 4: How much easier are they making your guys' job secon

1603
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 4: level the way that they were just devouring offensive linemen

1604
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 4: and keeping you guys clean.

1605
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 11: Yeah, we talked about that as linebackers during the game.

1606
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 11: In after the game, we had the best seat in

1607
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 11: the house. We were able to see obviously the front

1608
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 11: be dominant, and then you turn around and you see

1609
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 11: d dvs making amazing plays. So we literally had the

1610
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:18,799
Speaker 11: best seat in the house. It was exciting to see,

1611
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 11: Like you said, man, those guys that are engine up front,

1612
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 11: they really drive us. They really you know, make everything

1613
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,759
Speaker 11: go without them. You know, you know we're our defense

1614
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 11: doesn't work. So and then obviously the DB's back there,

1615
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 11: you know, they're they're you know, that's the glue, you

1616
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 11: know that that's what make it all go together. And

1617
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 11: then you know, like I said, we we got the

1618
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 11: best seat in the house. You know, we we clean up.

1619
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 11: We clean those guys up, you know, whenever they needed

1620
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 11: but they didn't need it too much last game.

1621
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 4: Now everybody's talking about Miles and Zadarius Oboll gets to sack.

1622
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 4: That stuff all shows up in the stat sheet. What

1623
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 4: Dalvin Tomlinson does doesn't always show up in the stat sheet,

1624
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 4: but he did a lot in that game against the Bengals.

1625
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 4: So what kind of love can he give your your

1626
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 4: big man up front.

1627
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 11: He knows that that's what we locker made. Sit right

1628
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 11: next to each other. Obviously, like you said, he does

1629
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 11: the dirty workman that nobody sees. But you know we

1630
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 11: appreciate more than anything. You know, just if you watch

1631
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 11: the you know, just the snaps of everybody getting sacks

1632
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 11: and everything like that, or the runs getting stopped. His

1633
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 11: guy is literally three yards in the back for he's

1634
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 11: resetting the line of scrimmage automatically.

1635
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 6: So you know, like I.

1636
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 11: Said, it doesn't look you know, pretty, or it's not

1637
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 11: the glit, the glitz and glamour that you know, Miles

1638
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 11: and Zadarias and Obo get from getting sacks, but it's

1639
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 11: a huge part of our defense and that.

1640
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 6: We need every week.

1641
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 3: What's him Schwartz brought to this defense.

1642
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 6: I think it's just that consistent message. You know.

1643
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 11: I always said that, you know, the best coaches I've

1644
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 11: been around, they are the same person every day. And

1645
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 11: that's huge, you know, especially as a leader of men

1646
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 11: in the National Football League. Obviously we see the ups

1647
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 11: and downs, the ebb and flows of NFL of football,

1648
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 11: but you know, the one consistent is your coach. You know,

1649
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 11: your coach's message, you know, and win loser draw. You know,

1650
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 11: Schutz doesn't care about the stats. He doesn't care about

1651
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,759
Speaker 11: you know, what we do wins losses. It's all about,

1652
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 11: you know, the camaraderie of the team, you know, playing

1653
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 11: hard and just having swag and passion and that takes

1654
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 11: care of everything, yose, So you know you have a

1655
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 11: coach that preaches that every day, you know, and let

1656
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 11: the results happen. I think that allows the guys to

1657
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:22,480
Speaker 11: be free, have fun, obviously be locked in on their assignments.

1658
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 11: And you know, like I said, just you know, you

1659
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 11: put a performance like that that we just put on.

1660
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,679
Speaker 4: Absolutely, we're going to get back to the camaraderie Parks.

1661
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 4: I want to talk to you about that in particular.

1662
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 4: But you mentioned the swag. Miles is out there, are

1663
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 4: doing crossovers, you were blitzing on that play. Just the

1664
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 4: creativity to come up with that look for you guys

1665
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 4: to get what you wanted. But did you get a chance.

1666
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 4: Did you know that was happening in real time? Or

1667
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 4: were you too far ahead of them? Okay, all right,

1668
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 4: but I knew.

1669
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 11: He was you know, he could literally have you know,

1670
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 11: all the he could do whatever on that play as

1671
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 11: long as he gets.

1672
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 6: To the quarterback.

1673
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 11: So you know, we're never surprised when Miles does anything

1674
01:16:58,040 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 11: that he does. You shoul see him in practice, dude,

1675
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:01,719
Speaker 11: you know, spind moves and all types of stuff.

1676
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 6: So but whatever, whatever works, I guess do you.

1677
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:06,719
Speaker 3: Like that kind of creativity.

1678
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 4: They'll look like you guys were getting you know, those

1679
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 4: five man looks moving everybody around, Were you coming?

1680
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 3: Were you not coming?

1681
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 4: And you could tell the Bengals of offensive line and

1682
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 4: the center in particular, especially on that players like oh.

1683
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 11: Man, yeah, no you want to give I mean you

1684
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 11: had that's a great offense. You know, they have a

1685
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 11: great quarterback, you know, great passing attack, great running backs,

1686
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 11: everything like that. So you want to just change up

1687
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 11: the looks, you know, for the old line and for

1688
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 11: the quarterback. Just make it cloudy just a little bit,

1689
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 11: you know. And anytime that we're able to make them

1690
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 11: not comfortable, not sure what we're doing, it puts us

1691
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 11: in at an advantage. And that's tough to do against

1692
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:40,879
Speaker 11: a team like that. But you know, we coach Schwartz

1693
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:42,600
Speaker 11: is very creative. You know, you got a lot of

1694
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:44,799
Speaker 11: guys that, like you said, have the personality, have swag

1695
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 11: to just do do things that fits what we need

1696
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 11: to do. But they still you know, can get to

1697
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 11: what their job is, their assignment is, and that's huge.

1698
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 11: So you know, coach Schwartz allows it, and I'm, like I.

1699
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 6: Said, I had the best seat in the house.

1700
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,719
Speaker 4: You were all for it, all right. You mentioned camaraderie earlier.

1701
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 4: Just watching the game. You know, from my vantage pointing

1702
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:03,799
Speaker 4: up in the booth, I could see on the sideline

1703
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 4: it was like standing room only when you guys are

1704
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:07,919
Speaker 4: on the field. Everybody on this defense is up, everybody

1705
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 4: is engaged. You guys carried by each other. And it

1706
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 4: felt like not just the defense.

1707
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 6: It's the whole team.

1708
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:13,759
Speaker 3: Is this different?

1709
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 4: It feels to me like it's a little bit different

1710
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 4: than in years past.

1711
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 11: No doubt, that was the most energy I felt since

1712
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 11: I've been here, Just like you said, from the whole team.

1713
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 11: You know, obviously defense, you know, you you make plays,

1714
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 11: is obviously gonna be a lot of energy in the building.

1715
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 11: But I just felt like it was a lot of

1716
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 11: selflessness going on.

1717
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 6: A lot of guys, you know.

1718
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 11: Shoot linebackers want to make plays, corners want to make plays.

1719
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 11: DB's want all the DB's all the D line want

1720
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 11: to make plays. And uh, nobody cared who made the

1721
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 11: play as long as it was the play was made,

1722
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 11: and it was excitement for everybody whoever made the play.

1723
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 11: And that's what you want. That's the that's the start

1724
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 11: of something special right there. You know, that's something that

1725
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 11: you got to put on tape, you know, sixteen weeks,

1726
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 11: seventeen weeks. But like I said, that's a great start

1727
01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 11: and what we want to get accomplished. But you know,

1728
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 11: when another teams feels your passion, your energy, it's hard

1729
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 11: on them, you know, especially when you're winning downs, you're

1730
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 11: winning third down and stuff like that. It ge get

1731
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 11: the demoralizing a little bit. So we want to put

1732
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 11: that on tape every week. Have that same energy, have

1733
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 11: that same swagg and passion, and obviously it's going to

1734
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:18,480
Speaker 11: be the fuel fours.

1735
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:20,600
Speaker 4: When you look back at it now, you know, the

1736
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 4: time at the Greenbrier, the time in Philadelphia. Do you

1737
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 4: think that really did kind of help you guys bond

1738
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 4: not only on the field but off the field, which

1739
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 4: then carries over to on the field.

1740
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt. I think that was huge.

1741
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 11: I told keV that when you know, he first talked

1742
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 11: about Greenbrier, I thought it was a good start for us,

1743
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 11: you know, to get away for camp and just kind

1744
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 11: of set the tone that we're in Camp Molde. You know,

1745
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 11: it's only US football and teammates, you know, so you

1746
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 11: know you had nothing to do but be with your teammates,

1747
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 11: you know, or be studying football, and I think we

1748
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 11: got better at both, you know.

1749
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 6: So, like I said, that was huge.

1750
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 11: Obviously being in Philly, you know, the joint practices always

1751
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 11: bring a team together, especially being away team on it,

1752
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 11: you know, you have a little bit more time to

1753
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 11: spend with each other and stuff like that. And then,

1754
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 11: like I said, but I think guys, it started from

1755
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 11: this offseason, guys hanging out with each other, you know,

1756
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 11: just the little things, the little details that you said,

1757
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 11: don't don't it's not mentioned in the stat book or

1758
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 11: nothing like that.

1759
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 6: But huge for our team.

1760
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 11: The camaraderie, just the intangibles that you can't see on paper,

1761
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 11: you know, it really helps us.

1762
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 4: So Greg told us last week he was out with

1763
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 4: us at the Kevin Stefancy Show, that you guys all

1764
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 4: got together the entire defense to watch the season opener,

1765
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 4: which was the Chiefs and the Lions, and that you

1766
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,600
Speaker 4: had something to do with that. So, so is that

1767
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 4: something that's going to be a regular thing, Because I

1768
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 4: have a lot of questions about this. So how did

1769
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 4: that kind of come to be? How is that your idea?

1770
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 4: And and you know what came out of it? And then

1771
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 4: is that some of your guys are doing all the time.

1772
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 11: Now, Well, we knew that, you know, a lot of

1773
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,759
Speaker 11: a lot of teams that I've been on Rod McCleod,

1774
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 11: you know, coming from Indy as well where I was,

1775
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 11: you know, we talked about just really incorporating those position dinners.

1776
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 11: A lot of guys did them in Greenbrie, a lot

1777
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,560
Speaker 11: of guys did them in Philly, everything like that. So

1778
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 11: for me, I just wanted to do one just everyone together,

1779
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 11: you know, just for the first one first week, you know,

1780
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 11: the whole defense together. I know that everybody's going to

1781
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 11: start doing their own position groups, you know, starting this week,

1782
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 11: but I really thought that it was huge for our team,

1783
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 11: for our defense to just get that one last you know,

1784
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 11: it is time, you know, and obviously being the first

1785
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 11: game coming on the start of the you know, actual

1786
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 11: football season was huge.

1787
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 6: So I just thought it would be good to get

1788
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 6: the guys together.

1789
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 11: And uh, you know, you know, we could say that

1790
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 11: that was a part of why we want and all that,

1791
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 11: but like I said, it's all about the camaraderie. It's

1792
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 11: all about the stuff that goes behind the scenes.

1793
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 6: You know that. You know it's just going to help us.

1794
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 11: You know, anytime we're able to just talk ball or

1795
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 11: you know, talk life and get to know one another

1796
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 11: and just enjoy each other's company outside of you know,

1797
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 11: meetings and football practice and all that stuff, it's huge.

1798
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 11: So you know, again we'll get together a lot more times.

1799
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 11: We got a lot of birthdays on this team that

1800
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 11: you know, we spent together. So you know, that was

1801
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 11: no different. Just like I said, just wanted to get

1802
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 11: the whole defense together and you know, really enjoy that moment.

1803
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 6: After Where do you guys do this at? We did

1804
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 6: Marble Room. They normally take care of us a lot

1805
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 6: of a lot of guys.

1806
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 11: Okay then is at Marble Room, but like steakhouses and

1807
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 11: stuff like that, sometimes guys get chefs and have people

1808
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 11: come over. So you know, for me, I enjoy just

1809
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 11: you know, spending time with my teammates outside of the building.

1810
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:26,480
Speaker 11: You know, wearing is mandatory. You know, when it's not mandatory,

1811
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 11: when you know you can just be yourself just you know,

1812
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 11: come and chill. You know, linebackers, we do marble room

1813
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 11: a lot, so we need to find some of those

1814
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 11: places actually, but.

1815
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, it's just good. It's just good to see.

1816
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 11: And like I said, that one was really special because

1817
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 11: it was you know, the whole defense there and they

1818
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 11: really took.

1819
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 6: Care of us there.

1820
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 3: That is awesome. It sounds like it would have been

1821
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 3: a great time, but a lot.

1822
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 4: I got to get on the defensive side of the

1823
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 4: ball somehow here and get to some of these good dinners.

1824
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 6: Steelers, big deal.

1825
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 4: Monday night Football, National TV, the new white uniforms, white helmets,

1826
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 4: the whole deal, all of it.

1827
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 5: For you.

1828
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 4: It was the Steelers game where you went down, come

1829
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 4: and back. What does this all mean to this team?

1830
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 4: You know, knowing that we started and you keep saying

1831
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 4: the word starting. I love that we started.

1832
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 3: It was great.

1833
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,600
Speaker 4: We won one game. There are sixteen more to go

1834
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 4: in this regular season. We hope to play a lot

1835
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:11,480
Speaker 4: more than sixteen once all sudden.

1836
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 11: Done, no doubt, Like you said, man, this is that

1837
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 11: was a great start to the season. You know, but

1838
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 11: we don't want to be just starting the season off

1839
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 11: the railway. We want to continue trending in the right direction,

1840
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 11: you know, uphill the whole time. And it's another division opponent.

1841
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 11: You know, we know what Cleveland and Pittsburgh rivalry is.

1842
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 6: You know, for a while, you.

1843
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 11: Know, they talked about it not even being a rival

1844
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 11: because you know, we didn't win, you know, and I

1845
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 11: haven't had a lot of success against pitt since I've

1846
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 11: been in the NFL. You know, obviously we won last

1847
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 11: year the game I got hurt, But other than that,

1848
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 11: I think that was the only time you know that

1849
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:48,640
Speaker 11: I that we want that I've beaten pitt So, you know,

1850
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 11: obviously some real moment for me, you know, night game

1851
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 11: again against pitt Uh. You know, obviously got hurt last year,

1852
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 11: and you know, I saw something today that you know,

1853
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 11: people thought that I said that because you know about

1854
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 11: what Number seventy six did to me or anything like that.

1855
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 11: Obviously that was you know, that was not a play

1856
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 11: where I got hurt because of the other player. You know,

1857
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 11: that was a non contact injury. You know, he did

1858
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 11: his job, which was to finish the play, and he

1859
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 11: finished the play not knowing that I was hurt. So

1860
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 11: I don't want people to think that I'm saying that.

1861
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 11: You know, it's personal for me because of that. It's

1862
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 11: more because honestly, I thought I never would play football again.

1863
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 6: There were days where it looked very cloudy.

1864
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 3: You know.

1865
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 11: I never I didn't think that you know, I was

1866
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 11: worth it, you know, like it was. It was a lot,

1867
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 11: you know, the the rehab process was really tough, and

1868
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 11: you know that that's why, you know, this is a

1869
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 11: surreal moment for me because like I said, I didn't

1870
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 11: know I would be here again. And you know, through God,

1871
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 11: through you know, my teammates, family, everything like that, the trainers,

1872
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 11: I'm here, you know, and I'm able to play this

1873
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 11: game that I really love again. So yeah, it is

1874
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:53,679
Speaker 11: a surreal moment for me in that in that aspect,

1875
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 11: but you know, again this is a big game because

1876
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 11: it's the next game for on our schedule, you know,

1877
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,719
Speaker 11: and it's a division opponent, and you know, talks about

1878
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 11: it at the start of each season. To get where

1879
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 11: we want to go, the first step is always win

1880
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 11: of your division. We gotta win division games. We gotta

1881
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 11: win division games on the road. That's what good teams do.

1882
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 11: You win one game, you win another game, and that's

1883
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 11: what we have to do. Primetime TV all that stuff

1884
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 11: as the glitz and glamour, but for us as a team.

1885
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 11: This game could be played anywhere, anytime, any day, and

1886
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 11: I think the guys we're gonna be ready.

1887
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 6: Dude, I'm so happier back.

1888
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 3: I'm so happy you were able to.

1889
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 4: Get through all of that to be there and to

1890
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:27,640
Speaker 4: be on the field Monday night for the Browns and

1891
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 4: to be a part of this organization. So dude, welcome back,

1892
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 4: love it, Let's go.

1893
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 6: I appreciate you, mi guy. Always happy to be a

1894
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 6: part of the show.

1895
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 2: A good stuff there that'll get you jacked up for

1896
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 2: this one tonight. Our selections coming up next. You listen

1897
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Speaker 2: All right, here's what you can look forward to tonight

1902
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 2: on the radio network, four thirty Browns Game Day, Kennon Gerard,

1903
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 2: six thirty Cleveland Brown's Kickoff Show with Andy and Tyvas.

1904
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 2: Then eight point fifteen kickoff from Cleveland Brown's Stadium. Chris

1905
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 2: rose Z and Gerard on the call for the game

1906
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 2: between the Browns and the Steelers. Your guests on the

1907
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:30,799
Speaker 2: Network tonight include Joe Buck, Kurk Warner, Joe Hayden, Miles Garrett,

1908
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 2: Coach Stefanski, and more. Speaking of Joe Buck, he was

1909
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 2: on Pat McAfee this afternoon and said that Coachdefanski told

1910
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 2: him that he expected Amari Cooper to play tonight.

1911
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I's see how that plays out. I mean

1912
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 4: that certainly would be a good thing. And whether that's

1913
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 4: in a full capacity, a limited capacity, a hand you know,

1914
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 4: cut down his snaps a little, but that's fine.

1915
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 3: Just having him out there, I think would be a

1916
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 3: big thing for the Cleveland Browns.

1917
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 2: What do you want to what do you what will

1918
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 2: you be looking for early to give you a feel

1919
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:58,839
Speaker 2: on how this one is going to go tonight, Pal.

1920
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 3: Fast start, who's moving the line of scrimmage?

1921
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:01,600
Speaker 5: You know?

1922
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 4: Are we moving the line of scrimmage on both sides

1923
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 4: of the ball? And then as you know, as Deshaun

1924
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 4: Watson locked in, is the ball coming out as it accurate?

1925
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 4: As the ball going where it's supposed to. If we

1926
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 4: have that, we're going to win. So as we don't

1927
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 4: turn over. That's that's the key.

1928
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 2: Is there some is there things that you look for

1929
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 2: and in the old days. You're down on the field

1930
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 2: obviously all the time. Are there things that you look

1931
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 2: for in pregame that are signs of this will go well?

1932
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 3: Uh?

1933
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 4: You know, it's more just kind of the general attitude

1934
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 4: and the way that I feel about it, the general

1935
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 4: vibe in the sense that you know, do the coaches.

1936
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 4: I always can tell from the coaches if they think

1937
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 4: like the guys are fully locked in and they've got

1938
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 4: a great game plan. I mean, before Cincinnati they really

1939
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 4: felt like defensively they were gonna slump them. And I

1940
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 4: do feel that they at least leading. I'll see when

1941
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 4: I get to the field in Pittsburgh today, but you know,

1942
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 4: leading up into the week, they certainly have felt that

1943
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 4: way again. So you know, it's a couple bounds of

1944
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 4: the ball change all that real quickly. But that's really

1945
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 4: what I'm looking for. Are they confident? Is this a

1946
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:57,679
Speaker 4: team that has full belief? And you know, too often

1947
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,080
Speaker 4: we were a team that was hoping to win as

1948
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 4: opposed to a team that was expecting to win. And

1949
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 4: I think Joe summed it up best that was the

1950
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 4: difference with the Steelers is they expected to win and

1951
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 4: that kind of begets winning because you're not nervous.

1952
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 3: You know that you're gonna clutch up when you need to.

1953
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 4: And I think this brown team has the talent to

1954
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 4: become a team that expects to win and knows they're

1955
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 4: going to win. And I remember talking with Michael Kendricks

1956
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 4: so after that Super Bowl, and I'm sure Rodney mccoppin anything,

1957
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 4: or Roan Thornhill, just that we got to the point

1958
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 4: where we just knew we were gonna win. Like nothing phased, that,

1959
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 4: nobody got nervous. We just knew we were gonna win games.

1960
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 4: And that's where this Browns team. I think that's why

1961
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 4: this game is so big, because I think winning it instills.

1962
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 3: That belief going forward.

1963
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 4: You know, it'll be great to everybody talk about all

1964
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 4: the Titans are a trap game. You know, one's last

1965
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:41,679
Speaker 4: time they said, oh the Browns might have a trap

1966
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 4: game here looking ahead to the Ravens. Like that's a

1967
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 4: good position to be in. Good teams have quote unquote

1968
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:46,759
Speaker 4: trap games.

1969
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1970
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 2: And I think one thing that you said there that's

1971
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 2: really important is the Steelers and Joe was talking about

1972
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 2: their fan base and that the belief to win versus

1973
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 2: hope to win or whatever. Yeah, Well, good lord, they've

1974
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 2: had a ton of talent over the three years. Go

1975
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 2: count the gold Jackets that have come from Pittsburgh in

1976
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:06,759
Speaker 2: the last thirty years. Now, go count the gold Jackets

1977
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 2: that have come from us one. That's they've had the

1978
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 2: better teams. This is what good teams do. You go

1979
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:15,639
Speaker 2: over there, you act accordingly. You're the better team. They're

1980
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 2: more beaten up than you are. Physically impose your will,

1981
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 2: get the win. Handle it as a business trip, not

1982
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 2: a big deal. Expect to handle it. Come back and

1983
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 2: start getting ready for Tennessee on a short week. That's

1984
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 2: the job. That's what good teams do.

1985
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have more Pro bowlers on both sides of

1986
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 4: the ball. I mean, this is yeah.

1987
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 2: Come on, let's go.

1988
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 4: More better, go do it, go be better. And I

1989
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 4: believe we will. I believe we will.

1990
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 2: All Right, we've got a Monday night. It's not a doubleheader.

1991
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 2: It's they've never this is the first time they've done this.

1992
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 2: It's a staggered Monday night. We've never done this before,

1993
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 2: other than in the COVID year when you were making

1994
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:48,720
Speaker 2: up games that were canceled over the weekend. So you

1995
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 2: get a New Orleans at Carolina early on ESPN, and

1996
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 2: then you get our game late. Let's start with the

1997
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 2: first one. How do you see it, sir?

1998
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:00,799
Speaker 3: I like that. I like the Saints.

1999
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 4: I like what they're doing, and I think Carolina has

2000
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 4: got a lot of issues, and scoring the football is

2001
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 4: definitely one of them. So I like the Saints bigly

2002
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 4: thirty to ten.

2003
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 2: Same and then our game Monday night football, baby.

2004
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 3: Us, I really do. I think it's coming on.

2005
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 4: Let's go twenty seven seventeen Browns.

2006
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:23,679
Speaker 2: Brown's ninety Steelers two.

2007
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:28,639
Speaker 3: Let's go. Let's go. Oh, baby, let's go. I can't

2008
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 3: we got.

2009
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,440
Speaker 2: Approachable tomorrow if this goes slump city.

2010
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,679
Speaker 4: Baby, oh, if it is, get ready, if we'll start,

2011
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 4: everybody come in here, and we're gonna be cool. You know,

2012
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 4: we don't want to be criticized that we're all right,

2013
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 4: like we've won the Super Bowl.

2014
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 3: But guess what we'll be on our way.

2015
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Speaker 2: Nope, act accordingly, boys over there, that's your safe travel,

2016
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Speaker 2: my friend, look forward to acall tonight. The next level

2017
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 2: coming up. Next thing you listen, everybody cleve the Browns

2018
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2019
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2020
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