Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back with an all new
Speaker 1: season of Becoming an Icon. Joseph, I have been waiting
Speaker 1: for this moment since we did our last episode of
Speaker 1: season one.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, bench do not get me started. I am
Speaker 2: so so ready for this. Who are we going to
Speaker 2: talk about next?
Speaker 1: We're kicking off season two with none other than Elivo himself.
Speaker 3: El Divo like opera singers, No, whoa?
Speaker 1: What would they be doing here? I'm becoming an icon?
Speaker 3: Okay, just kidding, I know El Divo there is we.
Speaker 1: Are talking about One Gabriel.
Speaker 2: If you're a Mexican, you definitely know Huanky's with that
Speaker 2: magnificent voice, is unforgettable style and commanding stage presence.
Speaker 1: One Gabriel is a legendary icon.
Speaker 3: Can you believe?
Speaker 2: It has been eight years since he's passed, but his
Speaker 2: memory lives on through us belting his signature songs while cooking, cleaning,
Speaker 2: at all the family functions, at every Ganessa that you
Speaker 2: get the picture?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. I mean Wanghi's was present at Maibodha,
Speaker 1: Will he be president at Yurboda?
Speaker 3: One million? P? Three?
Speaker 1: And of course One Gabriel's career has spanned more than
Speaker 1: forty years, making him the best selling artist in Mexican history.
Speaker 1: Get this, he wrote over eighteen hundred songs for himself
Speaker 1: and he even wrote for other artists in a variety
Speaker 1: of styles. I'm talking ranchettras to rock.
Speaker 3: I mean that many.
Speaker 2: But you know what's so special he can actually write
Speaker 2: it all so make us all emo and the other
Speaker 2: ones make us want to like.
Speaker 1: A dance exactly. I feel like his music transcends language,
Speaker 1: and that's also why he's a global icon.
Speaker 2: And speaking of iconic, let's not forget about how that
Speaker 2: man served the looks long before.
Speaker 3: At Harry Styles was even born. The bright ruffles lent
Speaker 3: Harry could never facts.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's well established that he is a music
Speaker 1: and fashion icon, But how much do y'all truly know
Speaker 1: about Wangabia's journey to start them.
Speaker 2: From a tough childhood to singing venues all over Why.
Speaker 1: Is to a stint in jail and a friendship that
Speaker 1: helped ignite his career.
Speaker 2: Today we're taking a look at Juengavirie's humble begin and.
Speaker 1: How his powerhouse vocals and romantic lyrics launched him into music.
Speaker 3: Starting let's get into it and all of it's glittery glory.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Lilianavosquez.
Speaker 2: And I'm Joseph Carrio and this is Becoming an Icon.
Speaker 1: A weekly podcast where we give you the rundown on
Speaker 1: how today's most famous LATINV stars have shaped pop culture.
Speaker 3: And given the world some extra tuble.
Speaker 1: Sit back and get comfortable.
Speaker 2: Because we are going in the only way we know how,
Speaker 2: with whenas when, visas and a.
Speaker 1: Lot of opinions as we relive their greatest achievements on
Speaker 1: our journey to find out what makes them so iconic.
Speaker 2: Okay, what is your first memory of Quankovidan.
Speaker 1: It's watching him on TV. I don't remember what concert
Speaker 1: or performance it was, but I remember specifically being in
Speaker 1: Mauilita's house in Fort Worth, Texas, and I remember her
Speaker 1: like linoleum floor. It had different squares in all shades
Speaker 1: of like pink and brown and cream.
Speaker 3: Thank you for taking you there.
Speaker 1: And I remember her in her about that watching it
Speaker 1: and me being like wow, like I've never seen her
Speaker 1: so attentive to television, Like my grandmother wasn't that person.
Speaker 1: She didn't like watch TV like that, I mean, other
Speaker 1: than her novela, she never watched TV and I'd also
Speaker 1: never heard her play or listen to anything other than
Speaker 1: church music, like we you know, she's religious, always a
Speaker 1: very much a woman of faith, and so I'd never
Speaker 1: really heard her listen to pop music. And so for me,
Speaker 1: I think that's what stuck out about that moment is
Speaker 1: I was watching her sing and enjoy music outside of church,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Wow, who is this human that
Speaker 1: has taken my grandmother and transformed her into this like
Speaker 1: party Senora, Like what's going.
Speaker 3: On for me? Like Guanghi's was.
Speaker 2: You know, my my parents actually were very Christian and
Speaker 2: they didn't listen to a lot of music, but when
Speaker 2: I would go to my family members' homes, Quanghia's was
Speaker 2: always on.
Speaker 3: And also like when I would go to Wadis a lot.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of like live bands at the bars,
Speaker 2: and so they would perform his music live, like some
Speaker 2: covers and stuff like that. But so I was always
Speaker 2: familiar with it, even like in high school.
Speaker 1: Alberto Aguilera Valladez, better known as one Gabriel, was born
Speaker 1: on January seventh, nineteen fifty.
Speaker 3: Wait wait wait wait wait, let me do my thing.
Speaker 1: Okay okay, okay.
Speaker 3: January seventh, nineteen fifteen.
Speaker 2: So that means he's a Capricorn's son, a Leo Moon
Speaker 2: and an Aris Rising. So as a Capricorn he works
Speaker 2: hard for his money honey, and as a Leo Moon, well,
Speaker 2: no wonder he loves to be in the spotlight Aris Rising.
Speaker 2: They're known to be bold, confident, and radiate cu rithma.
Speaker 3: Yep. The stars alliance make the perfect combo for someone.
Speaker 1: Just like Wonky's as a fellow Ares, I fully agree
Speaker 1: now as I was saying. Alberto Aguilera Vaalares was born
Speaker 1: in Baraquaro, Michuacan, to Gabriel Aguilera Rodriguez and Victoria Vala Rojas.
Speaker 1: The youngest of ten siblings.
Speaker 2: Little Alberto, the boy who would become Huangy's, experienced a
Speaker 2: tough childhood of his upbringing. He once said, as a child,
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: Old, and I think what he meant to say by
Speaker 1: that was that he just had to grow up really fast.
Speaker 1: When Alberto was just a baby, tragedy struck his father. Gabriel,
Speaker 1: a farmer, was burning land in order to plant corn
Speaker 1: and accidentally ended up burning his neighbor's land.
Speaker 2: The incident hit Gabriel hard. He had a nervous breakdown
Speaker 2: and was taken to a psychiatric hospital.
Speaker 1: There's speculation that he escaped and tried finding his family.
Speaker 1: Some say he died in the hospital. Either way, Gabriel
Speaker 1: was never heard from again.
Speaker 2: Soon after Alberto's mom, Victoria, took all ten children with
Speaker 2: her to the border town of Siodaswadis aka my old hood,
Speaker 2: where she worked as a housekeeper and later sold burritos
Speaker 2: with her children. By the way, selling burritos is legit
Speaker 2: a thing on the border.
Speaker 1: Victoria worked long hours to provide for her family and
Speaker 1: couldn't take care of little Alberto, who was just four
Speaker 1: at the time, so she sent him away to an orphanage.
Speaker 2: This was Huanghi's first memory of his mom, which had
Speaker 2: a devastating impact on him.
Speaker 3: He told the Elie Times, you.
Speaker 2: Don't know the word for abandon at that age, but
Speaker 2: you know what is happening.
Speaker 3: You know you want to be with your mother and
Speaker 3: she's not there.
Speaker 1: Victoria rarely visited Alberto growing up. He often ran away
Speaker 1: from the orphanage and made money of his own by
Speaker 1: washing cars or selling things on the street.
Speaker 2: But it was at this orphanage that Alberto met an
Speaker 2: influential teacher that would change his life. His name was
Speaker 2: Juan Contreras. Juan Contredras was shy and almost completely deaf.
Speaker 2: The other kids at the orphanage laughed at him, but
Speaker 2: Alberto didn't, and so the teacher decided to give little
Speaker 2: Alberto music lessons because he wasn't like the others.
Speaker 1: Juan Contreras introduced little Alberto to the piano and showed
Speaker 1: him how to play the guitar, sparking a lifelong passion
Speaker 1: for music.
Speaker 2: By the age of thirteen, Alberto was fed up with
Speaker 2: the orphanage.
Speaker 3: He craved freedom, so he ran away for good.
Speaker 1: He ended up moving in with his mentor and teacher,
Speaker 1: Juan Gondredas. For a while. Together they made crafts out
Speaker 1: of wood, wicker, and tin and sold them on the streets.
Speaker 2: This teacher made such an impact on Alberto that spoiler
Speaker 2: he would eventually honor him with his stage name, but
Speaker 2: mouill get to that.
Speaker 1: After a year, Alberto returned to sue' what is to
Speaker 1: help his mom and sister sil burritos on the street.
Speaker 3: It was during this time, as a teenager, that he
Speaker 3: wrote songs and sang while hustling on those mean streets.
Speaker 1: He told the La Times. When I was fifteen, all
Speaker 1: I knew was that I had to be somebody, and
Speaker 1: that I could be somebody. So I exploited the only
Speaker 1: thing I knew, which was singing and songwriting. Even if
Speaker 1: my childhood had been different, I would have still sung.
Speaker 1: But the hardships gave me strength and made me realize
Speaker 1: that I must do something if I wanted to get
Speaker 1: out of that situation. I'm glad it off. Uh so
Speaker 1: are we one?
Speaker 3: W Yeah?
Speaker 1: So are we?
Speaker 3: God bless.
Speaker 1: Alberto kept hustling and doing odd jobs across what is.
Speaker 1: When he was sixteen, he often sang at el Noah Noah,
Speaker 1: a bar he immortalized years later in his hit song
Speaker 1: by the same name.
Speaker 2: Oh my God, I'm remembering the guitar and the boot
Speaker 2: scutin sound and guess what I've been there.
Speaker 1: No, you haven't. I'm gonna need a photo or video
Speaker 1: evidence that would actually be preferred done. And when you
Speaker 1: listen to this song, it's kind of like you walked
Speaker 1: into like a Texas honky talk biddle en Espanol. I
Speaker 1: mean it was based on a bar on the border.
Speaker 3: I mean, mamosell no Noah.
Speaker 1: No, Noah, no, noah, no, it's so gadgy, it is
Speaker 1: so good. I feel like old when I say this,
Speaker 1: but they don't make music like that anymore.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're young when you say that.
Speaker 1: Thank you, I love you. The year was nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: six and during the Vietnam War, thousands of American soldiers
Speaker 1: were stationed on the base across the border in El
Speaker 1: Paso and nine one five they would cross into watt
Speaker 1: Is looking to have fun at the bars and nightclubs,
Speaker 1: which Joseph is an expert on the fact.
Speaker 3: I know all about that, but listen.
Speaker 2: Kuan Gabriete, like me, was underage, so a friend basically
Speaker 2: smuggled him into a Noan noa so that he could
Speaker 2: make money singing.
Speaker 1: He did so using his very first stage name, Adan Luna,
Speaker 1: and as he sang at other venues all over wat Is,
Speaker 1: he grew more and more confident as a performer.
Speaker 2: He decided to try his hand singing in a bigger city.
Speaker 2: He traveled back and forth between Quadas and Mexico City
Speaker 2: trying to find opportunities to land a record deal, but
Speaker 2: he was rejected at every turn.
Speaker 1: That did not stop Alberto aka Adan Luna aka one Geese.
Speaker 1: Are you following? He's following. There's a lot of names here, okay.
Speaker 1: He kept hustling and singing as a backup singer, all
Speaker 1: in the hopes that the right person would recognize his talent.
Speaker 2: Then one day in nineteen seventy, his life would take
Speaker 2: a turn yet again. After performing at a private party
Speaker 2: in Mexico City, Alberto was accused of stealing a radio
Speaker 2: and jewelry.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 1: He was arrested and spent eighteen months in one of
Speaker 1: Mexico's most infamous prisons, Legumberti aka the Black Palace.
Speaker 2: He told Lahnada when I went to prison, I didn't
Speaker 2: know how to defend myself.
Speaker 3: They accused me of robbery without evidence.
Speaker 2: They asked me for money to let me out, and
Speaker 2: when I didn't have it, they sent me to prison.
Speaker 1: But spending time behind bars didn't snuff out his passion.
Speaker 1: He continued to write songs even from prison, and it
Speaker 1: was there at Lecumberi that he wrote nothinggoly Neto, his
Speaker 1: eventual debut single, Ah.
Speaker 3: That's such a good one.
Speaker 2: No thaneo nada qua lonico quetengos a more parama.
Speaker 1: It's a bop. His talents caught the attention of the
Speaker 1: warden Andres Puentes Vargas and his wife, Opelia Urdusa Steggi.
Speaker 1: The warden ended up introducing him to actress and singer
Speaker 1: Enriquetta Jimenez aka La priet Linda.
Speaker 2: The two struck a friendship and in the get that
Speaker 2: you eventually helped Fungabriel get out of prison by paying
Speaker 2: his fine.
Speaker 1: Now that is a friend. You would never post my
Speaker 1: bail remember the time that I did? Oh wait, can
Speaker 1: you edit that out? She was also instrumental in connecting
Speaker 1: him to RCA, the record label that would launch his career.
Speaker 3: It's all about who you know in this industry, baby, Thank.
Speaker 1: God, I know you. Juan Gabriel was forever great to
Speaker 1: andri Getta. He even composed a song for her to
Speaker 1: sing called noch Noche. She would become one of the
Speaker 1: first artists to perform one of his compositions.
Speaker 2: It was finally timed for Juan Gabriel's career to take off.
Speaker 1: The year was nineteen seventy one and Alberto finally got
Speaker 1: his big break. He signed with record label RCA and
Speaker 1: made his first album in al Machoven, The Young Soul
Speaker 1: debuting the stage name we all now know him by,
Speaker 1: Juan Gabriel.
Speaker 2: He named himself Quan in honor of Juan kun Preras,
Speaker 2: his mentor from the Orphanage.
Speaker 1: The second part of his name, Gabriel, was a tribute
Speaker 1: to his late father, Gabriel Aguilera, and his first big hit.
Speaker 3: No tengo dineo.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I can't say it without singing, but written
Speaker 2: behind bars at Lacumbet.
Speaker 1: The song is really so simple and dare I call
Speaker 1: it basic? But it just hits every time.
Speaker 3: Every time.
Speaker 2: It's literally about me. It's about a young man who
Speaker 2: doesn't have money but has lots of love to give instead,
Speaker 2: like that's me.
Speaker 1: And it's also inspired many covers, including a Cumbia version
Speaker 1: by none other than the Cumbia Kings back in two
Speaker 1: thousand and four. It was also during this time that
Speaker 1: Jan Gabriel establishes himself as a powerhouse songwriter, not just
Speaker 1: the performer. He was also a hit maker for big
Speaker 1: names of the time like Roberto Jrzan and Esteita Nunez.
Speaker 3: He gained success and toured through Venezuela.
Speaker 2: While there, he worked in Karakas on a program called
Speaker 2: the Fiesta conven Vision, which was like a variety show
Speaker 2: with different musical acts.
Speaker 1: And in the same year his first album was released.
Speaker 1: One Gabriel received a gold record for El Alma joven.
Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy two, he participated in an international singing
Speaker 2: competition on tv A La American Idol. It was called
Speaker 2: the Oti Festival or simply La Oti.
Speaker 1: The competition was held in Madrid, Spain. This show was
Speaker 1: a big deal for upcoming artists. He sang Serramayana and
Speaker 1: unodostresi medasum Bezo.
Speaker 2: At just twenty two years old, Guangabrielle was not able
Speaker 2: to qualify to represent Mexico, but his songs were a
Speaker 2: hit with the audiences.
Speaker 1: Those songs would later be recorded for his second album,
Speaker 1: El Almahoven too.
Speaker 2: For the next two years, Guangabrielle quickly skyrocketed into popularity.
Speaker 3: The people and us loved him.
Speaker 1: But right when he was popping off, Juan Gabriel would
Speaker 1: suffer a terrible blow.
Speaker 2: His mother, Victoria, died of a heart attack in nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy four.
Speaker 1: And we know this. Juan Gabriel had always shared how
Speaker 1: complicated his relationship was with his mother. He felt abandoned
Speaker 1: by her, and in some ways he was always seeking
Speaker 1: her approval and her love m HM.
Speaker 2: For example, he had just bought her the very house
Speaker 2: that she had worked in as a.
Speaker 1: Mate, and her death greatly impacted him. Fans widely understand
Speaker 1: that this was the inspiration for amore Terno, a song
Speaker 1: he would release years later which goes.
Speaker 2: Dues latrist mios c and Cileenzio.
Speaker 1: You are the sorrow of my eyes which cry in
Speaker 1: silence for your love. Wait, hold on, I had to
Speaker 1: take a mole. I'm a mom. This is like not
Speaker 1: easy for me. Like can you imagine, like how sad
Speaker 1: little Wonky's must have been to not have her and
Speaker 1: know that she abandoned him. It's like heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking.
Speaker 1: And then he still loves her.
Speaker 3: And also to support her.
Speaker 1: And what's incredible about this is that all of that
Speaker 1: grief did not stop Wanghi's from chasing his dream straight
Speaker 1: to the top.
Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy four, kuangab He had released his first
Speaker 2: Mariacci album with the group Vargas re the Kali Clan.
Speaker 1: Proving that he could jump genre to genre with great success.
Speaker 2: But that's not all. He expanded his career into acting.
Speaker 1: He debuted on screen in nineteen seventy five in the
Speaker 1: film No Blesser Rancera or Rural Chivalry as a love interest.
Speaker 2: It's very tele novela, muy dramatica and he sings a lot.
Speaker 1: He would go on to appear in five feature films,
Speaker 1: and between nineteen seventy one and nineteen eighty four, Je
Speaker 1: Gabriel recorded Wait, okay, hold on, guess how many albums
Speaker 1: Joseph eight, double it and add one.
Speaker 3: Ninety ninety Ah, wait, I can't do that.
Speaker 1: He double it at three, y'all. This is why we
Speaker 1: do a podcast and not teach you mat skills.
Speaker 3: Listen. He was a busy, busy man.
Speaker 1: He reached new heights of success with his nineteenth album,
Speaker 1: Riguerdos Dos. It's the album that had one of his
Speaker 1: most well known songs, Geria guerira, ben Almi, Custos soufrillo.
Speaker 2: Getting that is peak Juan Gabriel and heartbreak, yearning, thoring, balls.
Speaker 1: Anguish, feeling so much emo there and it's everything that
Speaker 1: makes your abuela burst into song.
Speaker 2: And for Juangy's the eighties and the nineties were a
Speaker 2: hit parade of ballads kicked off by the albums Recuerdos
Speaker 2: and Ricerdos.
Speaker 1: Dos Ricuerdos Dos, by the way, remains Mexico's best selling
Speaker 1: album of all time. It was also nominated for a
Speaker 1: Grammy for Best Mexican American Performance.
Speaker 2: By this point, he had also revived a fellow artist's career.
Speaker 2: Over the course of six albums with Rossio Durca, the.
Speaker 1: Famed Spanish singer had recorded multiple albums singing tunes exclusively
Speaker 1: written by a Levo, including one that became one of
Speaker 1: the best selling records of all time in Mexico.
Speaker 3: Imagine doing that twice in one year. Huang's was on
Speaker 3: fueg Go.
Speaker 1: And in the nineties he kept it going with one
Speaker 1: of the most iconic performances ever.
Speaker 2: In May nineteen ninety, he sang along with the National
Speaker 2: Symphonic Orchestra of Mexico at the Palacio de Bejas artist.
Speaker 3: With a full mariachi band and everything.
Speaker 1: El Mariachi ariba what is to be exact. At the time,
Speaker 1: his concert stirred controversy among the cultural elite in Mexico.
Speaker 1: They raised an eyebrow at Wanga because he was considered
Speaker 1: pop more of a commercial singer than the type of
Speaker 1: fore former who would typically take the stage at El Palacio,
Speaker 1: you know opera types. Wanghis walks out on that stage
Speaker 1: in a glittering golden jacket and sang his heart out
Speaker 1: and he played the big Ones Gerrida at the Guossi
Speaker 1: and of course Amore.
Speaker 2: I'm crying right now thinking that whole concert. I'm an
Speaker 2: emotional wreck doing this research I have just been.
Speaker 3: I can't. I gave up drinking for lent and find
Speaker 3: me at the bottom of a tequila bottle. I can't
Speaker 3: take it.
Speaker 1: It is an epic, epic performance. And I think that
Speaker 1: performance of Amore, I mean it's a true fan favorite
Speaker 1: because I think it perfectly captures the dichotomy of Juan
Speaker 1: Gabriel right his humble, tragedy stricken beginnings and then his
Speaker 1: massive popularity. And just three years after pushing the envelope
Speaker 1: at El Palacio, he performed at the Rose Bowl here
Speaker 1: in la in nineteen ninety three with seventy five thousand
Speaker 1: people in attendance. Let me just bring that to current
Speaker 1: day for you. I saw Carol g at the Rose
Speaker 1: Bowl in twenty twenty three, and I don't think seventy
Speaker 1: five thousand people showed up. And that's with like her
Speaker 1: reach and the age of social media. So imagine getting
Speaker 1: seventy five thousand people in nineteen ninety three in the
Speaker 1: United States to turn up for you in Pasadena.
Speaker 2: Literally just goes to show the power of his music
Speaker 2: over Latinos in the United States too, not just in Mexico.
Speaker 3: Huangi's had crossed a new threshold.
Speaker 1: If you guys are Juan Gabriel fans, you've probably seen
Speaker 1: this performance at El Palacio. If you are new to
Speaker 1: Wanghi's or you want to really see the breadth of
Speaker 1: his work, this is the performance that you need.
Speaker 3: To watch of a lifetime, of a life.
Speaker 1: Thank you to thank you, thank you. You're right, You're right.
Speaker 1: I like I undersold it because I think, like you
Speaker 1: had said to me earlier, like he gives and gives
Speaker 1: and gives. Not only is an incredible singer and songwriter
Speaker 1: and out of fista, but like he is a cur
Speaker 1: and devo, he is a performer. And this performance for me,
Speaker 1: of all of the songs, but I think specifically as
Speaker 1: when the mariachi's just really like kick in and he
Speaker 1: lets them so you just want me to cry. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, like he lets them do them, they let
Speaker 1: him do him. He's shimmis, he shakes, he connects through
Speaker 1: that camera with that microphone. Like you guys, if you
Speaker 1: are somebody that just loves live music, like just live music.
Speaker 1: Forget genre, forget decade, all of it. If you just
Speaker 1: love live music, it is required viewing. You got to
Speaker 1: go and watch it.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: It's it's a next level performance for me and probably,
Speaker 1: like I said, one of my favorite live performances of
Speaker 1: all time.
Speaker 3: You want to know what's so crazy? It's like it
Speaker 3: like took me back to Ricky Martin.
Speaker 2: You no, like not like that, not like but just
Speaker 2: it took me back to Ricky Martin how he was,
Speaker 2: you know, performing and I would like at his very
Speaker 2: first performance and everyone was going like absolutely crazy. I
Speaker 2: was just kind of like wow, like one Gabriel did
Speaker 2: this first. I no, it wasn't an award show, but
Speaker 2: it was just kind of like the amount of people
Speaker 2: that were there and you can just feel like that he.
Speaker 3: Was just I don't know, like he was so happy.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a beautiful performance. It really is like
Speaker 1: one of my favorites. I'm just so happy that we
Speaker 1: have that and that we have video of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's what I love about this particular podcast is
Speaker 1: I remember watching that performance years ago. I also remember
Speaker 1: rewatching that performance when we were in season one and
Speaker 1: then coming back to it. I think we were talking
Speaker 1: about Ricky and we were doing research and I was like, God,
Speaker 1: there's so much of one Gabriel in Ricky, Like one
Speaker 1: Gabriel walked so Ricky could run. And then we all
Speaker 1: and then I think in that episode we said, like
Speaker 1: Ricky walked bad, Bunny could run, Like you see how
Speaker 1: it builds. Yeah, I'm just gonna say it. I believe
Speaker 1: him to be the greatest ambassador of Mexican music on
Speaker 1: a global scale. Like his showmanship, his enthusiasm, his command
Speaker 1: as a lyricist, like it is unmatched for that era,
Speaker 1: Like come for me if you don't agree, But like
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. Actually I don't hear it.
Speaker 3: I don't hear it.
Speaker 2: Facts, facts, But fuon Gavia's iconic performance at El Palacio
Speaker 2: was far from the last time he would push the envelope.
Speaker 1: Join us next time for more of One Gabriel's continued
Speaker 1: success in the odds while we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into his personal life. What was that phrase he so
Speaker 1: famously said, again, we're getting into it on the next
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