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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys apt now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola, And a good Monday to everybody out
Speaker 1: there as we have another week of Mick Shots after
Speaker 1: the Cowboys fall in Philadelphia on Sunday night. Mickey Spagnola,
Speaker 1: it's a new month, It's the month of November, and
Speaker 1: there's a new opponent this week that is unbeaten in
Speaker 1: the National Football League. That would be the Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 1: coming too at and T Stadium. But Mickey, we have
Speaker 1: so much to talk about about last night in Philadelphia. Yeah, absolutely, Bill.
Speaker 1: You know, the Cowboys I thought going into that game
Speaker 1: had a script that I thought they needed to follow.
Speaker 1: First and foremost, the defense needed to step up and
Speaker 1: prevent this offense. With a rookie quarterback starting his first game,
Speaker 1: a seventh round draft choice on the road Sunday night,
Speaker 1: three practices with the first team to not ask him
Speaker 1: to put thirty points on the board. The defense did that.
Speaker 1: They held the Philadelphia Eagles to basically fifteen points on
Speaker 1: their own. I thought the other thing that needed to
Speaker 1: happen is they needed to get a couple takeaways. Then
Speaker 1: they needed to sack Carson Wentz. They did both of
Speaker 1: those things, provided four takeaways in the game, four sacks,
Speaker 1: six quarterback hits. So they did their job. The other
Speaker 1: things not to fall behind by more than one possession.
Speaker 1: They were able to do that. And then I thought offensively,
Speaker 1: they just needed to use those two tight ends a lot,
Speaker 1: use some misdirection plays. They did all that. The unfortunate
Speaker 1: part is they just made a mistake or two on
Speaker 1: offense that ended up costing the game, along with two
Speaker 1: horrible calls on the same play, and then there they
Speaker 1: are losing twenty three to nine to the Eagles. But
Speaker 1: they at least given themselves a chance, a chance one
Speaker 1: or two plays differently to be able to win the game. So,
Speaker 1: as Mike McCarthy said, you know, it was frustrating, a
Speaker 1: tough game to lose. He felt for his players, but
Speaker 1: he felt like it was a step in the right direction.
Speaker 1: And I think when you're sitting there at two and six,
Speaker 1: you know you just gotta celebrate small steps in the
Speaker 1: right direction, and I thought at least this game provided that,
Speaker 1: especially defensively. Yep, it was a step in the right direction.
Speaker 1: And I think obviously, here we are at the halfway
Speaker 1: point of the season, and here for several weeks now,
Speaker 1: especially since the Dak Prescotte injury, things have as far
Speaker 1: as expectations go, things have had to be tempered for
Speaker 1: this season, and so you're building towards the future really, although, yeah,
Speaker 1: going into last night's game, you're a half game out
Speaker 1: in the NFC East, and coming out of last night's game,
Speaker 1: you're a game and a half out, and I think
Speaker 1: that makes for a good situation for the team as
Speaker 1: far as being able to say, hey, there is something
Speaker 1: to play for. That's one of the good things about
Speaker 1: being in this NFC East where no one has taken
Speaker 1: control in the division. But I think as media and
Speaker 1: fans that I think that you look at things that
Speaker 1: they can build on for the future. Uh, the team
Speaker 1: can't give up on the season. Fans obviously have, but
Speaker 1: I think that it was a good step forward last night.
Speaker 1: And there's a reason that the Eagles were able to
Speaker 1: emerge with a win in that game. They had a
Speaker 1: game they otherwise would have no business winning if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys had any experience whatsoever at the quarterback. And not
Speaker 1: to hang it on Ben to Nucci, he couldn't. He
Speaker 1: can't help the fact that he's only had three practices
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I mean literally, Uh, he's had three
Speaker 1: practices with the first team offense coming into this game.
Speaker 1: No offseason, no preseason games, no reps whatsoever. And uh,
Speaker 1: and that's why the Cowboys had to take the approach
Speaker 1: that they did. Uh. As far as their game plan
Speaker 1: on offense too, Yeah, absolutely, well. Listen, ever, you're here,
Speaker 1: Everson is here. I've been here, I've heard I heard you, Spags.
Speaker 1: You sound so sad, you sound this small man. Come on,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna step off of my pessimist stool and get
Speaker 1: on my optimist you go, all right? Ever, can I
Speaker 1: say doomsday defense is bad? Baby? Can I say that
Speaker 1: and have you and have you believe it? Can I
Speaker 1: say it and have you believe it? As I watched
Speaker 1: the game yesterday, I was with my family. We had
Speaker 1: a great time yesterday. Just really expecting so much worse.
Speaker 1: I mean I really was so as the game progressed.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm up out of my off the couch
Speaker 1: when we're getting the interceptions, we're getting the turnovers, the sacks,
Speaker 1: you know, the completions. I see the razzle dazzle we
Speaker 1: got going. And man, I just really felt good watching
Speaker 1: that game yesterday. Now that's you have to consider where
Speaker 1: I've come from, where we've all come from. We were
Speaker 1: so low that anything would just perk up my spirits,
Speaker 1: and it did. And so I did have a good
Speaker 1: time watching the game, of course, until you can kind
Speaker 1: of see what was gonna what was the inevitable throughout
Speaker 1: as the as the fourth quarter started and we started
Speaker 1: to wind it down, I was just really happy to see,
Speaker 1: you know, Diggs, as much as he's still going to
Speaker 1: have his problems as any rookie dB is gonna have.
Speaker 1: Good to see him get that confidence of just being
Speaker 1: able to catch the ball. That was a tough ball
Speaker 1: to catch. It could be considered, if you're Philadelphia eagle,
Speaker 1: could be considered a punt, you know, because he threw
Speaker 1: it so far down the field. He was just hoping
Speaker 1: for something to happen after being under the rest all day.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Carston wins and for Digs to come
Speaker 1: up with that catch, that was a pretty good catch,
Speaker 1: showed his ball skills. And you know, anytime you finally
Speaker 1: get an interception and you make a play like that,
Speaker 1: that that fuels you, right, It kind of gives him.
Speaker 1: I think he can stick his chest out a little
Speaker 1: bit more this week. Of course, the touchdown came or
Speaker 1: the big play came on him as well. But talking
Speaker 1: about not just one man having a good game, but
Speaker 1: the entire defense actually tried to play well as a unit.
Speaker 1: I love the way they attacked the run. I love
Speaker 1: the way they kept went on the on the on
Speaker 1: the on the run as well. But I mean, as
Speaker 1: I kind of step over to my pessimistic stool once again,
Speaker 1: it's not let me play some hell of a team.
Speaker 1: You know, let's just be real about that. These guys
Speaker 1: were known to make all of these mistakes before this game,
Speaker 1: and they continued. Carston Wins continued to make some bone
Speaker 1: head mistakes. That really shows what a desperate quarterback he
Speaker 1: is without a lot of weapons of his offensive line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: best part on the thing is as he brought up
Speaker 1: the name of Everson Walls at the discussion of multiple
Speaker 1: interceptions in one game. Uh, he became the fourth teenth Wow,
Speaker 1: he became the fourteenth Cowboys player in history, the fourteenth
Speaker 1: time in Cowboys history that they had a player with
Speaker 1: more than one interception in a game. Now the most
Speaker 1: was three terrence rookie years and his rookie in his
Speaker 1: rookie year, Terrence Newman had had three, and then everybody
Speaker 1: else had two, including Everson Walls one, two, three, four times,
Speaker 1: and it looks like all four. You're wrong, what, Mickey,
Speaker 1: You're wrong, You're wrong. Everson Walls had two interceptions in
Speaker 1: a game five times in his rookie you counted the
Speaker 1: employ one of those games was one of those games
Speaker 1: was more important than a regular season game. It was
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game. He had two interceptions rembers that season.
Speaker 1: We're counting five. He got one for the thumb in
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game as well. And you know what's
Speaker 1: crazy about that? Uh, it's funny that Digs got his
Speaker 1: on a prime time uh night because I think, I
Speaker 1: think because they weren't doing it of course in the
Speaker 1: until the modern era came, so to speak. I think
Speaker 1: I have more interceptions on you know, uh nationally night
Speaker 1: televised games. Yeah, right, I got more of that than
Speaker 1: anybody else in history. But of course, you know, Mary
Speaker 1: Riffer wasn't playing on Monday Night because they didn't have
Speaker 1: Monday Night at the time, nineteen seventy. Yeah. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: just a modern that's just a modern ara a stat
Speaker 1: that I'd like to hang my head on everyone. Well,
Speaker 1: what I want to know is why did you get
Speaker 1: all those those two interception games in your rookie and
Speaker 1: didn't have any more? What the heck he finally stopped
Speaker 1: coming back. Okay, they were picking on the rookie. Good answer.
Speaker 1: I was waiting, I was there. They just wouldn't come
Speaker 1: at you. You know. And that way, Mickey, that's why
Speaker 1: Byron Jones never got any interceptions. Go at throwing in him. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And that was and that was he had so many
Speaker 1: interceptions early. And you know though, I think the last time,
Speaker 1: um they had somebody Sean Lee had the last game
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, he had those two interceptions. Uh. I
Speaker 1: believe it was at Indianapolis right when they beat the Colts.
Speaker 1: Well that was his rookie year, his ten, yeah, twenty ten,
Speaker 1: his rookie year. Yeah. And that's the amazing thing is
Speaker 1: is the amount of time in between the multiple interception
Speaker 1: rookie season, so Sean would have had his in twenty ten,
Speaker 1: and then Terrence Newman had his three pick game as
Speaker 1: a rookie, I guess at oh three, and then I
Speaker 1: think he had to go back to I don't have
Speaker 1: the list in front of me, Mickey, maybe you do,
Speaker 1: but it goes back to nineteen ninety or or before
Speaker 1: that the most recent since then. Out of the outside
Speaker 1: of those two for a rookie for a rookie, they
Speaker 1: had the Rod Jordan they had they had as a rookie,
Speaker 1: but I think Bruce Carter won one year, had two,
Speaker 1: Sean Lee Uh had a couple, and then Jeff Heath
Speaker 1: was the last one I think that had multiple UH
Speaker 1: interceptions in a game. But you know what the weird
Speaker 1: thing is is, I went back and looked in six
Speaker 1: of the last seven seasons, the team leader in interceptions
Speaker 1: only had two, and this guy had two in one
Speaker 1: game the other The only exception was Heath that one
Speaker 1: year had led the team with three interceptions, but other
Speaker 1: than that, two has been the most and he got
Speaker 1: it in one Mickey. Yes, Mickey, we were halfway through
Speaker 1: the season and the team only has three interceptions, two
Speaker 1: of them came last night. Well, they got the team
Speaker 1: leader right now. R You you could have gone this
Speaker 1: entire segment without bringing that up. We're talking optimism here,
Speaker 1: Come on, Bill. They had four takeaways. Try that's why,
Speaker 1: that's why we need to be optimistic about this team
Speaker 1: right now. It was the first time of what happened.
Speaker 1: It's the first time they won the turnover differential since
Speaker 1: the season opener. I believe it was one plus one.
Speaker 1: They had one takeaway against the Rams, so that was
Speaker 1: a step in the right direction. Most they've had, but
Speaker 1: they that's the most they've had and well, I know,
Speaker 1: well two years ago probably, I mean, yeah, they had
Speaker 1: to be the last time they had four turnovers. It
Speaker 1: could be the two thousand Uh, we have to go
Speaker 1: on back. Do we have to go back to two
Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen for that? For that? Didn't I say,
Speaker 1: Mickey that they had four takeaways against the Eagles last year?
Speaker 1: I thought they did have one that was more recent? Yeah? Absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I saw that in the notes after the game.
Speaker 1: I have to look it up there. All right, Mickey,
Speaker 1: you alluded to it. So how about the one takeaway
Speaker 1: that was the killer play for the Eagles? That resulted
Speaker 1: in the touchdown. You alluded to the fact that there
Speaker 1: were two things that went to cow against the Cowboys
Speaker 1: that should not have gone against the Cowboys on that
Speaker 1: particular play. Yeah, they they They drove down to the
Speaker 1: Eagles twenty one and Duke Riley there linebacker on the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, steps into the neutral zone and there's
Speaker 1: no call. And the Cowboys, as Mike McCarthy pointed out,
Speaker 1: we got an early snap because there was offsides and
Speaker 1: there's no call. I don't know how they missed that,
Speaker 1: and when they showed it on video replay, he clearly
Speaker 1: stepped on the line with the line where the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage was and there's no call. Okay, Now they
Speaker 1: come with this blitz and the t J. Edwards comes clean.
Speaker 1: No one touches him, he hits Denucci. The ball comes out,
Speaker 1: there's a scramble for it and Vinny Curry is laying
Speaker 1: on his back holding the ball on his stomach as
Speaker 1: Connor Williams is on top of him. Play should be dead, right,
Speaker 1: Then the ball gets ripped out, it gets kicked backwards
Speaker 1: and then McLeod picks it up and runs for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: And I'm writing in my notes. As he's running down
Speaker 1: the field, you know, unabated, I'm going, okay, this is
Speaker 1: coming back. This play's over with or there's a flag
Speaker 1: out there for off sides and neither neither. How does
Speaker 1: that happen? And they had an opportunity to look at
Speaker 1: the play. Could they not see the ball resting in
Speaker 1: his grasp? What happened? What happened on the review because
Speaker 1: because Al Michaels and Chris Collinsworth were talking about it,
Speaker 1: they were looking at it. I never heard watching it
Speaker 1: on television them say that they were. They were reviewing it. Obviously,
Speaker 1: all scoring plays are reviewed. Maybe they don't have to
Speaker 1: make that announcement. But all of a sudden they're saying, okay,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be reviewed. They got their own analysts
Speaker 1: who comes on and says, yeah, it looks like he's
Speaker 1: got possession long enough, this is coming back. And then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're showing the two point conversion
Speaker 1: and there was no announce and then from a broadcast,
Speaker 1: from a broadcast standpoint, they didn't even explain it. They
Speaker 1: didn't even question that. They went back to it to
Speaker 1: acknowledge exactly at all. Right, maybe they didn't wanted they
Speaker 1: thought they were wrong, they were right, and then analyst
Speaker 1: was right, can we can we challenge? So we can't challenge. No,
Speaker 1: that's you can't challenge. It's a scoring play and so
Speaker 1: any scoring play is reviewed from upstairs and so so
Speaker 1: they don't have to make the announcement that it's being reviewed, uh,
Speaker 1: from upstairs, but they need to call down and say
Speaker 1: we need to review the gun with the ball. They
Speaker 1: should have They should have stopped it. They should have
Speaker 1: stopped it and reviewed it. But apparently they didn't. At least,
Speaker 1: I mean, there was no there was no delay like
Speaker 1: the fastest review ever. Yeah, because there was no delay
Speaker 1: like they were holding up the two point conversion. Because see,
Speaker 1: when we're here watching it, we can see a live
Speaker 1: feed and then we see the TV feed, And so
Speaker 1: I'm watching the TV feed and they're talking about how, yeah,
Speaker 1: that looks like, you know, it should have been down
Speaker 1: by contact, a ball should come back. And then I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the live feed and they're lighting up for
Speaker 1: the two point conversion and I'm just going, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: what happened? I don't think they ever reviewed it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they never did, and so they made you know they
Speaker 1: were talking about it in the booth, but they never
Speaker 1: they made two mistakes on one play, two mistakes on Yeah,
Speaker 1: as they continued, no one in the booth or anyone
Speaker 1: ever made reference to those mistakes. Again. It's almost like
Speaker 1: they just wanted to move past it, right. It was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter this, you know, the Cowboys are about
Speaker 1: to be two and six, six point game. Who knows. Okay,
Speaker 1: they recovered the ball. The ball probably was recovered around
Speaker 1: the thirty I don't know, thirty five, but they still
Speaker 1: had to It's still fifteen to nine, you know, it's
Speaker 1: still a ball game's right, plenty of time for a
Speaker 1: winch to throw another pick. Yes, absolutely, if he had
Speaker 1: to write, if he had to, might have been a
Speaker 1: pick six this time. Trey Wall may have taken it
Speaker 1: to the house. That would be great too. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: perfectly capable of doing that. So all right, we're just
Speaker 1: getting started on Go ahead, Mick, now, go ahead. This
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Speaker 1: And you know my theory, we're coming back with the
Speaker 1: go ahead. You know my theory on that the more
Speaker 1: games you win in the row, the closer you're out
Speaker 1: of losing, more games you're losing a row, the closer
Speaker 1: you are to winning exactly the percentage of even This
Speaker 1: could be our moment. We're going to bring back the
Speaker 1: memories of Dwayne Thomas. We're bringing back the memories of
Speaker 1: Hollywood Henderson. I want to see some real dogs get
Speaker 1: out there and play this week. Man. We could we
Speaker 1: could salvage our reputation with this game if we just
Speaker 1: not just play well, but win. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys, if you guys watched that game or now,
Speaker 1: But you know, I understand Lamar Jackson's ability to run
Speaker 1: to football. But as a team, Baltimore ran for two
Speaker 1: hundred in in uh sixty five yards, ran for two
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five yards against that They were just
Speaker 1: running right through their defense. I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: how you're saying Baltimore could lose that game other than
Speaker 1: they turned the ball over. So you're saying that the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys just give the ball to Zeke and
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard, they might be able to drive down the field.
Speaker 1: Oh but wait, there's a wide receiver pad a reverse
Speaker 1: pass instead. That was my other play that I was going,
Speaker 1: all right, you want to go to that now? Sure?
Speaker 1: Go ahead. Early third early third quarter, Cowboys are running
Speaker 1: the football seven straight times, six yards to carry. They
Speaker 1: go forty two yards in seven plays. They're getting it
Speaker 1: down into field goal position at least second. Let Cox
Speaker 1: hammering at Fletcher Cox behind the Cowboys multiple time Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl offensive guard Zach Martin, time and time again, and
Speaker 1: second and eight at the twenty eight And what's your call, Mickey,
Speaker 1: I'm probably handing the ball off. Not what's your call,
Speaker 1: I'm handing it off to get a shorter third down play.
Speaker 1: But no, the Cowboys had to reach into their bag
Speaker 1: of tricks and hand the ball off to Zeke going
Speaker 1: one way, and he hands it to Cedric Wilson going
Speaker 1: the other way to his right. He looked like he
Speaker 1: was getting the ball in his throwing hand. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure who he was supposed to throw too, but he
Speaker 1: probably wasn't open. And Fletcher Cox, Terrence Steele, does a
Speaker 1: big whiff on the line of scrimmage and and Cox
Speaker 1: comes in and drops Wilson for a ten yard loss.
Speaker 1: Ten yard loss. So now you're trying to have to
Speaker 1: kick a field goal because you're probably not picking up
Speaker 1: third and eighteen. They gained I think two yards, and
Speaker 1: they tried a fifty two yard field goal that took
Speaker 1: a right turn before it got to the uprights. I
Speaker 1: mean a right turn almost ninety degrees. Now I don't
Speaker 1: I know, the wind was blowing hard and it was gusting,
Speaker 1: but that was the weirdest looking kick I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: And so now no three right off the foot spass.
Speaker 1: It wondered just it didn't take a right turn. It
Speaker 1: immediately came off the foot and went right. That's a slice.
Speaker 1: He was probably trying to kick it just like he
Speaker 1: did at the end of the first half, which was
Speaker 1: the mine drives, screwball, knuckleball, whatever it was that went through.
Speaker 1: Never got more than twelve yards off the ground. It
Speaker 1: looked like and he and because of the wind, he uh,
Speaker 1: he had to kick it like that in order to
Speaker 1: get it through to from fifty nine yards and maybe
Speaker 1: from fifty two. He decided to kick it the same way.
Speaker 1: And that's what happens when you try that. Oh that
Speaker 1: back in my golfing days, when the winds blowing like that.
Speaker 1: In my golfing days, when the winds blowing like that,
Speaker 1: you have to hit a wind skimmer. He kind of
Speaker 1: hit that drive low right, so he didn't get up
Speaker 1: in the gusts. That's my grounder. My grounder comes in
Speaker 1: very good right then, and on days like that. All right,
Speaker 1: we're getting away from the point. But anyway, the point
Speaker 1: is the play cost him a reasonable distanced field goal. Uh.
Speaker 1: So you the three you didn't get, and then you
Speaker 1: set them up at the fort twelve seven lead right right,
Speaker 1: and you set them up at the forty two yard
Speaker 1: line and only had to drive fifty eight yards for
Speaker 1: a touchdown. So you went from possibly going up as
Speaker 1: Bill said, twelve seven if zerline makes the field goal,
Speaker 1: to now you're trailing fifteen to nine. And it was like,
Speaker 1: I understand what they were trying to do, and they
Speaker 1: probably thought they had set that play up, but again,
Speaker 1: you got to remember who you're relying on on the
Speaker 1: offensive line. And the worst part was, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys went back and looked at the
Speaker 1: play when Steele missed Cox, he kind of went forward
Speaker 1: and he was standing there in no man's land about
Speaker 1: five yards from the line of scrimmage, is kind of
Speaker 1: looking around like, well, what do I do now, and
Speaker 1: it's like, no, dude, it's too late, Mickey. The worst
Speaker 1: part of it is you're playing with a quarterback who's
Speaker 1: got three NFL practices under his belt. You're down there
Speaker 1: inside the thirty yard line in field goal range. The
Speaker 1: only way you're winning this game, you're gonna win a
Speaker 1: field goal battle. You cannot count on being able. And
Speaker 1: there's nothing against Ben da Nucci. I think he's probably
Speaker 1: got a great future in this league. But he's got
Speaker 1: three practices under his belt. You cannot count on him
Speaker 1: to lead you on touchdown drives. You have to kick
Speaker 1: field goals. When you have the opportunity to kick field goals,
Speaker 1: you're down there at the twenty eight yard line, keep
Speaker 1: himmering away, and if the drive bogs down, you're in
Speaker 1: field goal range, and it sets the tone for the
Speaker 1: whole rest of the game if you're able to kick
Speaker 1: that chip shot field goal and make it a twelve
Speaker 1: seven league. When the Eagles come back and get their
Speaker 1: touchdown and two point conversion, they're only ahead of you.
Speaker 1: Buy three points instead of six points. So the next
Speaker 1: time down, when you're in scoring position again, you're not
Speaker 1: trying to score touchdowns. You're just trying to kick field
Speaker 1: goals and you have a chance to win the game.
Speaker 1: That's how you win a football game when you've got
Speaker 1: a quarterback with three practices under his belt. And it
Speaker 1: could even go better than that, Bill What if? What
Speaker 1: if it goes better than that. Let's say you go
Speaker 1: down then you score a touchdown, or you say you
Speaker 1: kick a field goal. Who says that Philadelphia comes back
Speaker 1: down to scores? They might feel more pressure to call
Speaker 1: an entirely different game. Plan which might put them in
Speaker 1: a desperate situation. Keller Morris thinking, just like you, Bill,
Speaker 1: we didn't really want to put our quarterback in a
Speaker 1: situation to try and make a play down there so
Speaker 1: close to the red zone. So that's why he ran
Speaker 1: the play. But as far as I'm concerned, you don't
Speaker 1: need Cedric Wilson or anybody with a jersey number that's
Speaker 1: not in the twenties. So you should have had either
Speaker 1: number twenty one a number twenty continuing to tote that rock,
Speaker 1: continuing to tote that rock the way we were doing it.
Speaker 1: My son and I was watching the matchup between Zach
Speaker 1: Martin and Fletcher Cox. Zach's killing this dude man. Fletcher
Speaker 1: Cox was taking plays off. He was gonna take a
Speaker 1: playoff on that play if it wasn't for the for
Speaker 1: the whiff that a spage was talking about and the
Speaker 1: reason still had nowhere to go, no one to block
Speaker 1: because everyone else was food on that play. There was
Speaker 1: only one person to block, and that was the one
Speaker 1: that he just missed. Now, as I continue with that,
Speaker 1: you've got this athletic guy in Wilson. He comes around
Speaker 1: with the ball. If he could have just continued to
Speaker 1: out to not allow Clocks for Fletcher Cocks to outflank him.
Speaker 1: He could have chucked the ball, as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 1: continued to go towards the sideline, give a little bit
Speaker 1: more and if nothing else, you could just throw in
Speaker 1: their complete pass. He did not have to let Cox
Speaker 1: tackle him on that play. As far as I was concerned,
Speaker 1: He's much better athletically than what he showed on that play.
Speaker 1: He should have gotten away from Cocks on that one.
Speaker 1: But even said, even all that said, even all of
Speaker 1: that said, you continue to tote that. Why we're gonna
Speaker 1: get closer and closer, continue to pound them and do
Speaker 1: what we gotta do. You know what the problem is
Speaker 1: with offensive coordinators, freaking egos. They killed me. They don't
Speaker 1: want to say, oh, we just ran the ball down. Well,
Speaker 1: that's not showing any ingenuity as far as they're concerned.
Speaker 1: They always want to show how smart they are. That's
Speaker 1: why I got fifty seven inceptions on these clowns, because
Speaker 1: they always feel like they have to do something spectacular.
Speaker 1: Stick to the script, stop being cute. That's the offensive
Speaker 1: coordinators for you, right, And that was the second time
Speaker 1: they wasted a possession because the second possession of the game,
Speaker 1: after they recovered the fumble, if you remember, they were
Speaker 1: firsting goal at the four, first in goal at the four,
Speaker 1: they hand the ball to Zeke and cam Irving gets
Speaker 1: smoked and Zeke gets dropped for a three yard loss.
Speaker 1: He missed his block, just totally missed the block. And
Speaker 1: then it's second in goal at the seven and Steel
Speaker 1: gets beat by Graham uh And and he another sack
Speaker 1: and a fumble. So you can't wait when when when
Speaker 1: you're offensively challenged? And Donucci said it after the game,
Speaker 1: he said, the way I look at it, when you
Speaker 1: crossed the fifty, that should turn into points. At some point,
Speaker 1: you got to get points. And they crossed the fifty
Speaker 1: eight times. Uh and and came away with no better
Speaker 1: than field goals. And then and then they had the
Speaker 1: two fumbles. Uh that that seriously cost him in this game. Hey, Mickey,
Speaker 1: if if Bill Parcels was watching that game last night
Speaker 1: and ever said you know this as well as anyone
Speaker 1: he was pulling his hair out with, I mean because
Speaker 1: he's probably had flashbacks to Tony Romo his rookie year
Speaker 1: out of Eastern Illinois. And Okay, what if I could
Speaker 1: just see Parcels looking at this game goal. Now, this
Speaker 1: is an example of what if Tony Romo had got
Speaker 1: thrown into a regular season game his rookie year without
Speaker 1: any experience, coming into camp as a fourth string quarterback.
Speaker 1: This is what would have happened with him. And I
Speaker 1: guarantee you Parcel's philosophy in that game would have been,
Speaker 1: we're kicking field goals. Every time we get a chance
Speaker 1: to kick a field goal. We're not giving this guy
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get sacked, fumble, throw a pick on
Speaker 1: the even down there with second and goal at the
Speaker 1: seven yard line. The goal is we have to at
Speaker 1: least to get a field goal, and don't put don't
Speaker 1: put this quarterback in harm's way of getting either sacked
Speaker 1: and fumbling or throwing a pick on the ends on
Speaker 1: the goal line. You know that whole That whole sequence
Speaker 1: and when he was getting sacked reminded me of the
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one game when the Cowboys had to go
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia the end of the year and if they
Speaker 1: won the game, they were gonna clinch a wildcard playoff.
Speaker 1: Berth Troy Aikman was hurt the game before against Washington
Speaker 1: that Burline came in and saved the day and they
Speaker 1: won the game. So getting ready for the Eagles, Jimmy
Speaker 1: Johnson went to Burline and said, I don't care how
Speaker 1: many incompletions you throw. I don't care what your quarterback
Speaker 1: rating is. Do not take a sack because that gets
Speaker 1: their defense wiled up. It'll get this crazy crowd riled up.
Speaker 1: You just throw the ball away. And I think Burline
Speaker 1: might have finished the first half like four for twelve
Speaker 1: or something four for thirteen, but he kept throwing the
Speaker 1: ball away. And then the second half the worm turns
Speaker 1: and they end up winning the game and clinching a
Speaker 1: wild card playoff berth. But do not take a sack.
Speaker 1: And that's should have been right now. I'm looking up
Speaker 1: right now Burlin in that game. But go ahead, Everson.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, just to speak to plus sales mentality,
Speaker 1: San Francisco Championship game and camp at Candlestick. At Candlestick,
Speaker 1: UH fifteen to thirteen, we won the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 1: Matt Barr five field goals to winning and there you go,
Speaker 1: the game winner, the game winning with no time left
Speaker 1: on the clock. So you're exactly right about plus sales.
Speaker 1: And in that game, um that Mickey's talking about, Steve
Speaker 1: Burline was nine out of thirty one for one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty five yards in the game. And that was
Speaker 1: the Kelvin Martin punt returned game, Hugh, that was the
Speaker 1: to me, that was the biggest play in the Jimmy
Speaker 1: Johnson era, I mean in the history of his it.
Speaker 1: I mean you could go all kinds of other players,
Speaker 1: but that play right there, attorney the round for that team.
Speaker 1: The final score was twenty five to thirteen, but that
Speaker 1: was a ten eight Philadelphia lead going into the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: And then Kmart had his eighty five yard punt return
Speaker 1: to give the Cowboys the lead at fifteen to ten.
Speaker 1: Get this, Get this, Everson. Then Roger Rusak kicked a
Speaker 1: field goal for the Eagles to make it the score,
Speaker 1: but made the score fifteen to thirteen, just like the
Speaker 1: game that you're talking about in San Francisco. And then
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in the closing couple of minutes had a
Speaker 1: touchdown past the Irvin and a Ken Willis field goal
Speaker 1: to make the final twenty five to thirteen. But that
Speaker 1: was the exactly what type of game that should have been.
Speaker 1: Last night where you have to value the football because
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz was not valuing the football on the other side,
Speaker 1: and that gave you every opportunity to win that game.
Speaker 1: It's plays like that that turned things around. I mean,
Speaker 1: it makes you think and played differently. And that's what
Speaker 1: I keep looking for for this team. Just give me
Speaker 1: one play. One play can add to something else. Can
Speaker 1: they add to something else? And these guys won't have
Speaker 1: to feel as if they're losers right now. You can
Speaker 1: lose games, but you don't want to feel like one.
Speaker 1: You want some optimism. You want some momentum that came
Speaker 1: up did it for them? They need to have some
Speaker 1: some moments where you could do it for this team
Speaker 1: as well. All right, we continue at more mix shots
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Speaker 1: All right, we just got about seven minutes left on
Speaker 1: this Monday edition of Mix Shot Mickey Earlier, you are
Speaker 1: about to say something, and we ran out of time
Speaker 1: in that first segment, And I'm not sure where you
Speaker 1: were going with that, but I want to give you
Speaker 1: the opportunity to say whatever is on your mind. You mean,
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to remember something from a half hour ago.
Speaker 1: I know, I know I was gonna say, I know
Speaker 1: what it was when they purposely took the safety on
Speaker 1: the snap to the punt. So we're sitting there watching
Speaker 1: the game upstairs, and Derek Eagleton and myself we're looking
Speaker 1: at each other. I'm going, oh, this is going to
Speaker 1: be a disaster. You know, Chris Jones, he's got that
Speaker 1: abdomen injury and he's not punting the well ball. Well,
Speaker 1: they're gonna get this ball at about the thirty five
Speaker 1: yard line right And then the next thing we know,
Speaker 1: they snap it way over his head and I'm going, LP,
Speaker 1: did he just do that? And then it dawned on
Speaker 1: me what they were doing. They didn't want to give
Speaker 1: them the opportunity for a short field field goal. They said, hey,
Speaker 1: let's just take the safety, give up two points, and
Speaker 1: then kick the ball away. While they weren't going to
Speaker 1: kick it away, they came up with that pooch kick
Speaker 1: to try to basically an on side kick, and you
Speaker 1: know what if those guys would have cut them. It
Speaker 1: was a great idea try at all. Yes, yes, I
Speaker 1: love the no quick attitude. Man. But you know, as
Speaker 1: you look at this game, the coaches they're doing all
Speaker 1: they can. I mean, they've had some time to prep
Speaker 1: with this quarterback. They put in some razzle dazzles and
Speaker 1: that was really really thought provoking in regards to what
Speaker 1: they did with the pooch kick after the safety. But
Speaker 1: what I was impressed with was the play of both
Speaker 1: of our defensive ends. I thought Alton Smith and Randy Gregory.
Speaker 1: I thought they came in and played well. I loved
Speaker 1: Gregory's hustle. He never did give up on any play.
Speaker 1: He never was too far out of position. Of course,
Speaker 1: there was some mistakes made, but just the optimism that
Speaker 1: came from from the way that this defense played. I
Speaker 1: know Philadelphia's having their problems offensively, but when you look
Speaker 1: at just the recognition of the players themselves, it's not
Speaker 1: just about who you're going against and how badly they're playing.
Speaker 1: It's about the recognition of your team. We saw our
Speaker 1: defense do some things that we hadn't seen all year long.
Speaker 1: They were respectable against the run, they weren't too far
Speaker 1: out of position on pretty much any play that night,
Speaker 1: and those are the things that you That's how our
Speaker 1: board is set right now. But we're building on that,
Speaker 1: and I love the momentum that's possible coming from this game.
Speaker 1: You got interceptions, you got turnovers, you had pressure, you
Speaker 1: had pressure. I mean, Mike Nolan had to feel real
Speaker 1: good about how his blitzes was showing up and giving
Speaker 1: Wentz problems. So that's something that we can carry on.
Speaker 1: I don't care who you're playing against, Big Ben Daniel,
Speaker 1: I don't care who it is. Pressure is pressure, and
Speaker 1: it makes it makes you react a certain way. I'm
Speaker 1: hopefully that's gonna be good for the Cowboys. You know,
Speaker 1: they started the game off having trouble against the run.
Speaker 1: The Eagles had fifty four yards rushing in the first
Speaker 1: quarter and I'm sitting there, gone, oh, here we go again,
Speaker 1: another two hundred yards rushing. Right. Well, they finally shut
Speaker 1: it down, stayed in their gaps, and the rest of
Speaker 1: the way they only gave up in the next three
Speaker 1: quarters sixty five yards rushing. So they figured something out.
Speaker 1: And you could tell the more latent vander esh was playing,
Speaker 1: the better he was getting in rhythm of what was
Speaker 1: going on, and he started making plays and it's starting
Speaker 1: to look more like his old self. And then Sean
Speaker 1: Lee comes in. Um oh, I printed it out. I
Speaker 1: don't remember how many plays he ended up getting. It
Speaker 1: wasn't that many. Four four four snaps, yeah, four snaps,
Speaker 1: but but he showed, he showed that, you know what,
Speaker 1: he knows what's going on out there, and so it
Speaker 1: really helped I think him on the side game, you
Speaker 1: know what, Mickey, Mickey, I think I think that they
Speaker 1: made him. They knew that he wasn't going to play
Speaker 1: that many snaps in the game, and they basically just
Speaker 1: got him out there for one series, really, but I
Speaker 1: think that they they felt like it was valuable to
Speaker 1: have him on the sideline to help out those linebackers
Speaker 1: with his preparation and so forth. And because in this COVID,
Speaker 1: with the rules with COVID, he can't be on the
Speaker 1: sideline if he's if he's uninjured reserve. But as an
Speaker 1: active player, obviously he's on the sideline and he can
Speaker 1: help out. Maybe I'm overstating it a little bit, but
Speaker 1: I think I think there's not a coincidence that they
Speaker 1: made some adjustments during that game and taking another way
Speaker 1: from the coaches either. It's just that preparation that Sean
Speaker 1: Lee has and he's able to coach up Layton and
Speaker 1: Jalen as they make adjustments as the game goes along.
Speaker 1: You saw it, Yes, yes, absolutely, I forget in order
Speaker 1: for linebackers to play well, you know, we have to
Speaker 1: continue with our reasons here. The linebackers were able to
Speaker 1: play well because the defensive lineman kept them unoccupied. So
Speaker 1: as long as that relationship is there, your linebackers are
Speaker 1: going to be even more effective. And as long as
Speaker 1: though defensive ends are setting the edge correctly, then you
Speaker 1: that's less ground that your linebackers have to cover. Your
Speaker 1: inside linebackers have to cover as well. So it's all
Speaker 1: about coordination and working together. It seems like they've got
Speaker 1: that going once again. Not a very talented team, but
Speaker 1: I don't care who you playing against. As long as
Speaker 1: you do your job right, you give yourself a better
Speaker 1: chance against no matter how good the offensive team is.
Speaker 1: And let's remember this. It's the other thing that I like. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll go ahead making Oh I thought you were getting
Speaker 1: ready to end the show. Make your point and I'll
Speaker 1: end it with mine. All right. The other thing that
Speaker 1: I like going forward as we go into the second
Speaker 1: half of the year the moves that they made last week. Now,
Speaker 1: Everson Griffin, he wants to play on a team that's
Speaker 1: contending for a playoff spot. We'll see if Detroit is
Speaker 1: that team for him. But with releasing Don Terry Poe
Speaker 1: and Daryl Worley, I want guys on my team the
Speaker 1: second half of the year that are competing not only
Speaker 1: for this year, but for next year two. And I
Speaker 1: think that's what they're getting at. And I think that's
Speaker 1: where you're you're going to find this team playing with
Speaker 1: more passion on defense, especially because you're gonna have guys
Speaker 1: on this team that are playing for contracts next year two.
Speaker 1: And I think one and the one thing that I
Speaker 1: think we need to remember going forward. I know the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are two and six. Philadelphia's only got one more
Speaker 1: win than they do. M that's it. So you're telling
Speaker 1: me leave it or not, We're still in the hunt, baby,
Speaker 1: And it ain't over until it's over, babe. It ain't
Speaker 1: oyain nicky and they're gonna make another trade by tomorrow afternoon.
Speaker 1: Listening to Stephen Jones, it sure didn't sound like that
Speaker 1: they were actively looking for anything or wanting to do anything.
Speaker 1: And he kept bringing up the impact those trades have
Speaker 1: on your salary cap. And they know they're gonna need
Speaker 1: money next year. So if anybody looks at the salary
Speaker 1: cap and go, oh, they've got all this money this year,
Speaker 1: it's not about this year. It's about the next year
Speaker 1: going forward. So you have to be careful. And I
Speaker 1: think they've got a decision to make on the punter. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, they they had the guy on the practice squad,
Speaker 1: and I believe he was able to go to the game.
Speaker 1: He wasn't at the game, but made the trip. So
Speaker 1: you never know, a hundred the punter might end up
Speaker 1: being the punter if if, if they decide Chris Jones
Speaker 1: is just trying to kick through this injury. Hunter Hunter,
Speaker 1: miss wonder. He may not have to wonder much longer
Speaker 1: because a part they don't know it. But it's all right,
Speaker 1: it's a rhyme every time. All right. That does it
Speaker 1: for mix Shots for this Monday, we'll tell you all
Speaker 1: about the trades at the Cowboys make tomorrow at one
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