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Speaker 1: What is Up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Mets Up Podcast. I'll tell you what, get

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Speaker 1: real tired of these episodes where the Mets are losing.

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Speaker 1: I'm not used to it this year. Know this podcast

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Speaker 1: has been going on for a while, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of losing's been happening recently. Don't love it. Not a

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Speaker 1: huge fan, especially because it feels like the Mets are

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Speaker 1: losing baseball games and they weren't really even competitive in

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Speaker 1: a lot of these losses. Again this weekend against the Phillies,

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Speaker 1: Game one was bad, Game two was great. Thought it

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Speaker 1: was gonna carry into Game three. It absolutely did not.

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Speaker 1: The Mets did not show up again offensively in game three.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot to talk about. Francisco Alvarez has been

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Speaker 1: sent down to Triple A after Saturday's game, which was

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Speaker 1: a kind of crazy, wild, interesting sit down. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about the meaning there. Then. We do have a little

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Speaker 1: bit of minor league prospect updates for you guys, some

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Speaker 1: bartender at Caesars Palace, reached out to me on Instagram

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Speaker 1: I don't know what he made me. I said, get

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Speaker 1: me something fruity with rum. He made me a delicious

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Speaker 1: orange drink. Pounded it before some Gordon Ramsey steak. Shout

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Speaker 1: out Tom, He's a legend. He also said he bought

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Speaker 1: a ton of merch, which that's still always so crazy

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Speaker 1: to me when people want to wear something on their

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Speaker 1: body or a travel mug or whatever it is with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. Appreciate all you guys for that.

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Speaker 2: Don't really appreciate how the Mets played this weekend. Again,

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Speaker 2: another series wasn't didn't play well. Look, I don't think

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Speaker 2: that if you lose a series against the Phillies in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 2: I'd be that busted up about it. But the combination

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Speaker 2: of coming up back to back sweeps against the Braves

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Speaker 2: in the series, you looked like shit doing it. Like

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Speaker 2: that's part that kind of is sticking in my cras

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Speaker 2: after this because it's just not good baseball. It's kind

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Speaker 2: probably like editing back last episode. We were a little

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Speaker 2: mope and sad last one, so I'm sorry you guys

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Speaker 2: for that one. We were the bets there and we're

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Speaker 2: a little bit bitchy. But it they played bad. Now

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Speaker 2: they played poorly again. It's just like I I'm not

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Speaker 2: There's not a shake. There's not like a moment. There's

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Speaker 2: is it Gusto, where is it? Where is this sweeping

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Speaker 2: we can play good baseball again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know in the past I've been like they're

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Speaker 1: feels like that, but also at the same time it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: And I really thought saturdays offensive performance was gonna turn

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Speaker 1: them to be. You know, out of their last ten games,

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Speaker 2: It's a three game sweep, and the three games sweep

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Speaker 2: And at least that we've built so much of a

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Speaker 2: that we've built up so much of a cushion and

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Speaker 2: we should be grateful for the way this team played early,

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Speaker 2: They get all the credit for being the best or

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Speaker 2: then you really interseas with no momentum. That's kind of

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Speaker 2: that's the fear I have right now. But this team

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Speaker 2: does feel like it's just kind of a limp into

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Speaker 2: This just happened to the Phillies three weeks ago after

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Speaker 2: one key thread between all these Mets losses is you

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Speaker 2: it's worrisome where they keep facing other teams best and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Lozardo, they had him on the ropes

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Speaker 1: know that Zach Wheeler's a good pitcher. In Game one

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Speaker 1: These are excuses for lack of performance, of course, like

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Speaker 1: at the same time, the Mets have very good hitters.

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Speaker 1: The Mets are a good offensive team, or at least

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Speaker 1: So it is a bit frustrating when the bats don't

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Speaker 1: feels like right now, this is just like the long

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Speaker 1: then once you come out of this, you're gonna be

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Speaker 2: And that's the hope I do.

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Speaker 1: Like that.

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Speaker 2: That's where the Mets company line is, for lack of

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Speaker 2: great quote after the Game of Friday, which I think

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Speaker 2: I applaud him for actually having the balls to say

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Speaker 2: But can't you can't have this cold stretch against these

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Speaker 2: We kind of circled this stretch a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: And I do think, and we mentioned this last episode,

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Speaker 1: his little hot streak that he had for a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Ronnie Maurisio is within seconds. I'm assuming of being sent

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Speaker 1: down whenever Mark Fientos comes back off the il Brett

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Speaker 1: Not a lot of great offense like there, Luis an

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Speaker 1: Hellocuna still can't really hit the bottom of the order

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Speaker 1: and then we expect them to hit a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, maybe they weren't as good

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Speaker 1: The one guy that I am concerned about though, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's just not ready right now at this

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Speaker 2: And I think that's fine. I mean Mariso especially, we

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Speaker 2: just lost the three game series to the Marlins. As

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Speaker 1: Chris Sale il right, so he won't be pitching.

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Speaker 1: That's absolutely insane. God wouldn't have been games in June.

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Speaker 1: Definitely worries me. They look a little slow, a little tired.

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Speaker 2: It's kinda how baseball works. We knew this would happen once,

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Speaker 2: I want to avoid that three game series as much

431
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Speaker 2: as possible. But I saw last year this is not

432
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Speaker 2: the end of the world if you don't million teams

433
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Speaker 2: make the playoffs. Like that's okay at the end of

434
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Speaker 2: the line. I don't even think the players even are

435
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Speaker 2: that key into who's winning the division right now. I

436
00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,600
Speaker 2: think after the All Star Breaker really start the Bay

437
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Speaker 2: attention stuff. When you're inside the organization as a play.

438
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Speaker 2: It just does suck that we had like a six

439
00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,560
Speaker 2: game lead on division and you have these series against

440
00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,840
Speaker 2: your rivals where you can you can wind up opening

441
00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,640
Speaker 2: up like a ten game league like the Tigers or something.

442
00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,560
Speaker 2: We're also not playing great baseball. Same with the Yankees,

443
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Speaker 2: who have just let a couple of teams get back

444
00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,800
Speaker 2: in their race as well. This is this is like

445
00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,960
Speaker 2: the bizarre thing that's going on. There's all the good games,

446
00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,000
Speaker 2: all the good teams in baseball seem to have gotten

447
00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,320
Speaker 2: cold at the same time, and all the bad teams

448
00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:21,120
Speaker 2: are starting to win games.

449
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Speaker 1: Like you said, the Marlins won a series. The Rockies

450
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Speaker 1: have been winning a couple of baseball games more than

451
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Speaker 1: they had all almost swept. Yeah, this is like the

452
00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,920
Speaker 1: weirdest stretch of baseball. Is mercury in retro grade? Is

453
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Speaker 1: something going on? There's gotta be something in the air

454
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Speaker 1: right now that's causing this.

455
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Speaker 2: I think it's just again like you just said, like

456
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Speaker 2: that's a baseball suason, like and it's just kind of

457
00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,520
Speaker 2: how this feels again because you have this game game too,

458
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Speaker 2: which is the one start, the one game in the

459
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Speaker 2: last six when the Mets didn't face like a very

460
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Speaker 2: lea pitcher. I think mccable's quite good. I think he

461
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Speaker 2: has lots of potential, lots of good stuff, but it's

462
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Speaker 2: just not quite there yet. This was his fifth major

463
00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,560
Speaker 2: league start, his first poor one. But if you have

464
00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,359
Speaker 2: a young pitcher like this, these guys get together and

465
00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,879
Speaker 2: they're hitting missiles all over, Like, maybe that's not the

466
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Speaker 2: right words us this episode. They're hitting not I was

467
00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:01,960
Speaker 2: gonna use another one right there, they're hitting Oh that

468
00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:06,119
Speaker 2: was a third one. Use believe it. They're hitting the

469
00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,760
Speaker 2: ball really hard, really far. Baseball's going deep into the stands,

470
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Speaker 2: Jared younger than the actual the four hundred and forty

471
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Speaker 2: foot he did. Yeah, another one I can't use. Why

472
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Speaker 2: are all the baseball home run words you missus for war?

473
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Speaker 1: Yeah, bad timing on those, but but every single one,

474
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Speaker 1: like the one starts an R and N and M,

475
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Speaker 1: Like why is every single one whatever? But you see

476
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Speaker 1: it and it pisses me off because you can't sustain

477
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Speaker 1: it because there were so many moments in that first

478
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Speaker 1: game on Friday Night where you actually had a chance

479
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Speaker 1: to make a mark, especially the way that Braves series ended,

480
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Speaker 1: the way the whole series went, which you felt like

481
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Speaker 1: it would be really nice to get out to a

482
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Speaker 1: hot start and you'll load the bases against Zach Wheeler

483
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Speaker 1: in the first. In you got chances to score runs

484
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Speaker 1: and you made them work hard. You did get mad

485
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Speaker 1: in the game.

486
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Speaker 2: In the fifth, you're able to tie it against Tywan Walker.

487
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Speaker 2: Nice to blast off against I don't even think he

488
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Speaker 2: use that one right now. Nice to crush him. Get

489
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Speaker 2: the back back home runs from Pete and Jeff, You're like, okay,

490
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Speaker 2: nice And then of all the people, the one who's

491
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Speaker 2: been one of the best ball you're read Garrett. Now

492
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Speaker 2: he's on a couple of weeks stretch where he can't

493
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Speaker 2: pitch either. It's just kind of felt like when it

494
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Speaker 2: rains of pores.

495
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Speaker 1: What is this? This? This is now the second yeah,

496
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Speaker 1: second street season where Reed Garrett has had like an

497
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Speaker 1: under one era going into June and then he hits

498
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Speaker 1: a wall. Last year he hit the il and missed

499
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Speaker 1: a lot of time. Vello still looks fine though, where

500
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,840
Speaker 1: last year the velo. So it's just it's getting hit.

501
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,760
Speaker 2: I guess it's just getting hit. Everything looks fired right

502
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,000
Speaker 2: now when it was happening with Reed Garrett last year,

503
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Speaker 2: Like I love using the the charts on a player's

504
00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,840
Speaker 2: baseball savan page, and I'll change the like I'll change

505
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,560
Speaker 2: the factors on there. Instead of by season, I'll do

506
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Speaker 2: by month or by game and then make the season

507
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Speaker 2: one season. We can see like spikes and pitch usage,

508
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Speaker 2: spikes and chase ray for all pitches. Everything's fine. Last

509
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Speaker 2: year things were changing a lot for Garrett. Pitch sequencing

510
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,600
Speaker 2: was changing, pitch usage was changing. He was getting fewer

511
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Speaker 2: with fewer chases. This last month, everything is standard. So

512
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Speaker 2: I'm just choosing to believe that Reid Garritt, that this

513
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Speaker 2: is just a this is a bump in the road,

514
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Speaker 2: This is a rough patch. Maybe it's a mental thing,

515
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Speaker 2: especially thinking back to that moment with him and Alvarez

516
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Speaker 2: against the Braves where it's like the difference between the

517
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Speaker 2: fastball is split there. Maybe it's not confident enough this pitch,

518
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Speaker 2: especially not executing that split their But the view is fine.

519
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,640
Speaker 2: The swinging miss rates fine, the chase rates fine. It's

520
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 2: some pitch mix changes. Throw a fewer sinkers to righties,

521
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Speaker 2: he's throwing more colors instead. I'm choosing to believe is

522
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Speaker 2: a bumping the road. But this is also kind of euphemism.

523
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Speaker 2: For the Mets season because Riguerrett's been horrible for three

524
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Speaker 2: weeks now, as era is still like two point three.

525
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Speaker 2: Yeah it is, which is that's kind of how it

526
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Speaker 2: all feels, you know, with a weird way.

527
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Speaker 1: How about Blade Tidwell, he I'm gonna how do I

528
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Speaker 1: phrase this? His stuff looked better than his first start

529
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Speaker 1: with the Mets, but there are still obvious I don't

530
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Speaker 1: want to say concerns, but there's things he's got to

531
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Speaker 1: work on. The command is still such a major issue,

532
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Speaker 1: and the fact that we can't get him to go

533
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Speaker 1: longer than three four innings right now is also a

534
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Speaker 1: major problem if he's gonna stay in this rotation. But

535
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Speaker 1: the stuff looks major league baseball pitcher quality for sure,

536
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Speaker 1: especially that fastball, which was always the thing that I

537
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Speaker 1: loved particularly about Blados. That fastball is big, like he's

538
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Speaker 1: got some serious juice on it.

539
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Speaker 2: So it's funny because I think that maybe what's going

540
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Speaker 2: out with Blade right now, just like looking at the

541
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Speaker 2: difference between his stuff and his movement, everything that happened

542
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Speaker 2: between the first start against the Cardinals this one against

543
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Speaker 2: the Philly I think to the naked that they felt similar.

544
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Speaker 2: But this started against the Phillies. I think they told

545
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Speaker 2: Blade like, you're only going to go seventy five pitches.

546
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 2: They took him out that seventy four Eric the fuck out.

547
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 2: Just go balls to the wall, throw as hard as

548
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Speaker 2: you possibly can for as long as you can. Then

549
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 2: stop because looking at this game, thing that always oscillates

550
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 2: a lot with Blade is more than this velocity to

551
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Speaker 2: shape on his fastball. And we saw a couple of

552
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Speaker 2: fastballs get that beautiful rising action over twenty inches of IVB.

553
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 2: Pitching ninja picked it up, you know, Sarah's picked it up.

554
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,439
Speaker 2: A lot of big baseball pitching guns picked it up.

555
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Speaker 2: It had like two hundred and fifty thousand pressions of

556
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Speaker 2: pitching ninja clip the one that he got them Jiti

557
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 2: Real Muto whiffing on and you could feel that those

558
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 2: first two winnings, like twelve of twelve his fastballs the

559
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Speaker 2: first to winnings aboup ninety six miles an hour, and

560
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Speaker 2: he kept that velocity up after that, but he stopped

561
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Speaker 2: getting eighteen nineteen twenty inches IVB after that second inning,

562
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Speaker 2: and as that fastball started to lose life, I think

563
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Speaker 2: he became less confident it, at least throwing it in

564
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Speaker 2: the strike zone, tried to place more of the off speedstuf.

565
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Speaker 2: The sweeping the slider both looked good. He broke off

566
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Speaker 2: one or two nice colors. I really like watching that

567
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Speaker 2: pitch because he didn't try that pitch in that first

568
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Speaker 2: start against the Cardinals. But then people were kind of

569
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,479
Speaker 2: shitting Amendi for pulling him. Two of his last three

570
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,199
Speaker 2: fastballs is ninety three miles an hour. Another one he

571
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 2: threw the inning was ninety two. And there was a

572
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 2: lefty coming off any of the seventy four pitches. So

573
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Speaker 2: I get all of that, but it does feel like

574
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Speaker 2: that they think he's a little bit incomplete right now

575
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 2: as a pitcher, and they know that he can just

576
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: stuff his way through a few winnings, so they're kind

577
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 2: of like, hey, man, stuff your weight through a few

578
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 2: winnings and then we'll figure that out after that. But

579
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Speaker 2: I think it's I'm encouraged by Blade Sidwell seeing what

580
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 2: he's done this year. I think it's a this is

581
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Speaker 2: going to be a at least some kind of piece

582
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Speaker 2: for a second half. I'm actually a little disappointed he

583
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Speaker 2: got set down after the game. Truthfully, Yeah, I think

584
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Speaker 2: roster wise, you kind of have to.

585
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to, and especially.

586
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 2: If they black burn Man, if you see the.

587
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 1: Moves that are going to be made coming up with

588
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: Mantessmania possibly coming off the IL in the next week

589
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 1: or so, Blade doesn't really have a spot at this

590
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: exact moment. But I feel better right now about him

591
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: after that start than I do the Cardinals, even though

592
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 1: he still technically wasn't great in the Phillies game.

593
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you could see this top end stuff. And

594
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Speaker 2: that's why I do think that just based on the

595
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Speaker 2: way he was pitching, of effort that was exerted early

596
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: in the game. I think they were like, hey, balls

597
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 2: to the wall, like get after it right now. Also,

598
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: two crazy things about this Blade start. One with Chase Burns'

599
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 2: promotion over the weekend. That's now eight players already from

600
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty two Tennessee volunteer baseball team that made

601
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 2: the major league debuts. That is unbelievable for a college

602
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: team and under three seasons. Drew Gilbert's knocking on the

603
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: door like he's literally a couple of hot weeks away

604
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 2: and someone getting injured from him being up Like that's

605
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 2: we really thought he would have been one of the

606
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 2: first guys too, which is funny also cool about this

607
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 2: Blade did well start. I don't know if you saw,

608
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 2: not how much you've been on social media. He went

609
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: monster viral after the game. Oh his look was insane, insane.

610
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Speaker 2: He looked like he was a mix of like Fallout

611
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Speaker 2: Boy and like one of the nephews from Abba.

612
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Speaker 1: It was one of the weirdest looks I've ever seen.

613
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Speaker 1: He had a hairstyle that I've I don't think I've

614
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 1: seen a lifetime. Yeah, it was like the Emo cut,

615
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: but it's blonde, which made it confusing with the chain

616
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: over the like. So much was going on, and I, honestly,

617
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Speaker 1: I don't even know what he was saying. I was

618
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: just so focused on I was like, who dressed you?

619
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: Where did you buy these clothes? How'd you do your hair?

620
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 2: Like that?

621
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Speaker 1: There was a lot of uh, someone's got a Lindor's

622
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: got to help out, maybe Blade when he stays up

623
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: for a little bit longer, because that was a swaggless look.

624
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: For sure.

625
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: He's got five million impressions on Smy's official Twitter account,

626
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: just people being like, who is this person? Because he

627
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: looked like someone The one that went the most viable

628
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: was like this is a peculiar look on this young man.

629
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Speaker 2: I would wage that that might be s and Wise's

630
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: most ever interacted with tweet, just to show how stupid

631
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: all the social media stuf this. And he also said

632
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 2: that he was playing Fortnite when he got the call. Yes,

633
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 2: I had to have to quit the games.

634
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Speaker 1: This was.

635
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: I was pretty surprised by that, But I think that

636
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 2: it's very fair to be encouraged by what we saw

637
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 2: from Blade Ted well friend of the night.

638
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,959
Speaker 1: Yes, game two we talked about offensively pitching. Wise feels

639
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 1: like Canning's probably that we're probably starting to see the

640
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: real Griffin Canning.

641
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: At least more so Kenny was he settled in okay

642
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 2: after a bad start in this game. It was also

643
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 2: he got kind of dincted doinked after the Mets got

644
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: their runs. And then there were two strange plays that

645
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Speaker 2: I think kind of are endemic to what was maybe

646
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Speaker 2: some since mess roster right now. Number one, I think

647
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 2: this is something that I'll do Number two first. The

648
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: number one is going to give us the next conversation.

649
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

650
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 2: Number one was in the fourth inning, when the Mets

651
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 2: had taken the big lead after the back to back

652
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: to back home runs from Lindor Nimo and so though

653
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: yea Jeff McNeil playing center field. We've been doing this

654
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: with the big ground ball pitchers, with Canning, Peterson and

655
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: Clay Holmes, all guys who are fifty percent ground ball guys.

656
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: I get that makes sense. Get the extra bat in

657
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: the lineup. It helps him and Brandim almost collided in

658
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: left center fields. It was actually a horrifying play when

659
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 2: I was watching it, and the error was charged to

660
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: Jeff McNeil. I think it was actually Nimo's ball, but

661
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: I think that they just does not They haven't communicated

662
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: much in the outfield, usually either on opposite corners or

663
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 2: one standing on the dirt. And then Canny got an

664
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: under and run. I think it probably should have been

665
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 2: an earned run. I did like how Canning attacked. We've

666
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: been talking about how much he's pitched backwards this season.

667
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 2: He didn't throw a three ball pitch. He threw one

668
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 2: three ball pitch to a lefty and it was a

669
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: three two slide of Kyle Sharper. That was nasty the

670
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 2: guy swinging. They got a strikeout in that fifth inning,

671
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 2: but that fastball is not getting whifts. He has to

672
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 2: hide it. So it's great that he's able to get

673
00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: ahead with that pitch when he wants to use it

674
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: early in the count, and it started like this, he

675
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: can play that off speed stuff where if he didn't

676
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 2: get dint and doint he probably doesn't give as many runs.

677
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 2: But there was another player early in this game. Second.

678
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 2: It was the second inning when the Phillies took the

679
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 2: lead back. And I think this brings the next conversation

680
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 2: about Francisquavera's demotion to triple A because it was another

681
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 2: time this year, and Alvis has done this time over time,

682
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: as now every basically ever catching baseball is doing the

683
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: one knee method or you know, not as mobile. Laterally,

684
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 2: when blocking a baseball, he tried to pick a ball

685
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: in the dirt so lazily and even worse, it was

686
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: with two outs with a one run lead. As a

687
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: guy standing out there, base trait turners up good hither,

688
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 2: but to not even move your body just to try

689
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: and scoop it, I think I think small sly tried

690
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: to pick it like a first basement. I thought, wasn't

691
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: ad a bad way to describe it, was just like,

692
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 2: come on, dude. And I think that even though he

693
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 2: hit the home run. I think Carlson Doz in the

694
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 2: metsaw that was like he needs he needs a reset bad.

695
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I guess the political answer that Mendoza gave

696
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: during Sunday Night Baseball when Buster only asked him about it,

697
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: about why they sent down Franciscauavres, which is also a

698
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: crazy question to ask in the middle of a baseball

699
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: game to a manager and doing his thing. You'd think

700
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: you'd say that for before or after the game. Mendoza

701
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: was like, he's got some issues right now. We know

702
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: how good Francisco Alvarez can be, We've seen it. We

703
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: know it's there right now. He needs to play more

704
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: and he's not really able to do that. You know

705
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: he's pressing. We know Francisco Alvarez wears his heart, honestly

706
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: cares a lot about playing well, cares a lot about

707
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: this team. So I'm sure he's really really pressing when

708
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: he's having one of the worst Well, he's having the

709
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: worst offensive season of his career and probably also the

710
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: worst defensive season of his career. Small career thus far,

711
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: but he's been terrible on both sides. I actually, as

712
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: as weird as the timing was this morning, thought about

713
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: a little bit more. I do think it's the right move.

714
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: He needs playing time, He needs to work on the

715
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: stuff that is issues right now, the mentals and also

716
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: the and the fundamentals too. Fundamentally, he hasn't been sharp either.

717
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things going on right now. It

718
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: feels like his head's a little bit loud. It feels

719
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: like the game's moving very fast. A great way to

720
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: help that out go down to triple A play six

721
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: of the seven games during that week, catch hit mash

722
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: a little bit, go up against shit, triple A pitching,

723
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: Like those are things that maybe helps Francisco Alvarez, like

724
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: get his mojo back to quote Austin Powers, because he

725
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: just he kind of doesn't. He has no feel right now,

726
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: he has no aura. And that's a guy who me

727
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: and you have been around when he was in Brooklyn.

728
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: We saw him when we worked for the team and

729
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: we're on the field. He had an infectious attitude around

730
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: him and he had just he had a vibe. He

731
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: carried himself differently. Right now, it's like slump, shoulders down, frustrated.

732
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: Not the Francisco Alvas that were used to see it.

733
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's bad timing too, because Luis Lorenzis can't

734
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: buy a hit and no way, shape or form. But

735
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: I do think that it's just funny. This is the

736
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: moment happened because Francis Gualvers has his first pulled fla

737
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 2: ball and with felt like months and four hundred film

738
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 2: run in the eighth and ninth enning of that game

739
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: on Saturday, like, all right, nice, we saw something there.

740
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: Eric Shotmas saw that and said, I did not tell

741
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: you you can't do that. You need to hit a

742
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: ground ball to the right side for a single. You

743
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: eighty eight twenty five home runs as a twenty one

744
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: year old, Get the fuck off a year. No ways, today,

745
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: how shocked I was.

746
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: I was just walking around, had a nice hungover Brooklyn day.

747
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: But it did thinking back and like preparing those for this,

748
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: it's remembering that block that that very lazy play it

749
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: happened that game that to me, especially from a coach's perspective,

750
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: you just can't stuff like that can't fly, especially when

751
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: you're in You're not not the game you need to win,

752
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: but in these games where you're struggling with offense, not

753
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: in that game specifically, of course, but like every single run,

754
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: every single play matters when you play a good team,

755
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: and to let a run score just like that at

756
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 2: your own defense, well not your in defense, whatever, letting

757
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: the run score basically on your own fault. You can't

758
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: that happen against a good team like the Villis.

759
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: No, you can't. It's it's an inexcusable mistake. You can

760
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: make mistakes here and there, but that was one of

761
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: those that was a physical mistake caused by the mental

762
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: He did not identify that ball was gonna be in

763
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: the dirt. He didn't realize what the situation was. You

764
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: have to get in front of baseball, or at least

765
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: attempt to get in front of that baseball. That being said,

766
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: got all the faith in Francisco Alvarez in the world

767
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: to figure it out. I really do think that this

768
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: mental reset might be the thing that helps him figure

769
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: it out. I don't know if we're going to see,

770
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, the twenty five home run Franciscuavrez this year,

771
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: that's asking a lot. But if we see him take

772
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: better at bats, start swinging the ball, I ask you this,

773
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: what are the odds he comes back from Triple A

774
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: with a different batting stance going back to the old one,

775
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: would you put the odds at And then if he does,

776
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: how much of a like kind of underlying under the

777
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: radar shot at Eric Chavez and all those guys is

778
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: that if he comes back with completely new stuff because

779
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: he was hitting well in Triple A.

780
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't the whole batting stance thing with JD

781
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: Martinez j J Martinez personal hitting coach. Sure, but I

782
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: also think Java it seems like a shot back at

783
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 2: Jaji Martinez, who doesn't need the shots. He's pick a

784
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: ball professional.

785
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: We also, yeah, that is kind of crazy. That's like

786
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: a wild little uh side story there for Jadie Martinez.

787
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: But also at the same time, we know that Chavez

788
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: wants him to be more like that kind of hitter

789
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: as well, based on chavez his comments that he's made

790
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: in the past.

791
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: I mean, tell me this, just as you know as

792
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: a your very your very illustrious career as high schol

793
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: baseball player, how long does it take to install a

794
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: new batting stance like that.

795
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: I think it's hard.

796
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: I don't think it's he seems like a harthing to

797
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: doing season.

798
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you go back to what you did,

799
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: I think that's different than if you're trying to do

800
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: something new, because Francis Gualavarez has tens of thousands, hundreds

801
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: of thousands of swings. Yeah, the way that he used

802
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: to hit, this new way, this new way could like

803
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: this new stance and everything could be the move. I

804
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: don't think it is. I think his play has shown

805
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: that it's not usually you see some like crazy success

806
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: followed by a little bit of a cool off when

807
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: you make this change. He's the opposite. It's been really bad.

808
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: I think that might be part of the problem. And

809
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: I think to try that after having some success felt

810
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: like a bit of a crazy move by franciscau Aalvarez

811
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: and whoever else told him to do that.

812
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the changes that we're talking about, Pis gualavers

813
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: has closed up his dance a little bit, moved back

814
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: in the box a little bit, and is not as

815
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: successful at going out and getting the ball out in

816
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: front again. Right now, his attack direction somehow is to

817
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: the opposite field, which makes us think that he's intending

818
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: to hit the ball into the right center field.

819
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: Naley, get me two more stats. I want to know.

820
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: Can you get me bat speed for him? In the

821
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: last two years. And can you get swing length because

822
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: if we see the exactly the same both exactly the

823
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: same interest seventy three point five and seven point two

824
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: And what about the swing length do we have that?

825
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, swing lengths seven point two feet and the bats

826
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: B seventy three point five both it's exactly the same

827
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: as of right now in twenty twenty five compared twenty

828
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: twenty four.

829
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: So it's the same swing but just trying to hit

830
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: opposite field.

831
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: It's the same swing but starting later and with a

832
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: with a with a more closed stance. Doesn't that conceptually,

833
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: I feel like to everybody listening and us included, but

834
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,239
Speaker 2: doesn't really seem to make sense. You have to then

835
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: make a change to the swing as well if you're

836
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: going to change the approach. It's also very close stands

837
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: right now the average of Major League Baseball is being

838
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: eleven degrees open. For Sis guiver is two years ago,

839
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: twenty five homer seasons twelve degrees open. That the last

840
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: two years been six degrees open as the power's gone away.

841
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 2: So again, maybe that just comes down to it, but

842
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: it's I don't know a lot of people also were

843
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: comparing this to the Brett Baty situation from April where

844
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: he hit the home run off Zach Wheeler was sent

845
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: down the next day. I think this is such a

846
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: different situation that's not even close so that the Brett

847
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: Baty demotion came from we knew Jeffcveial was coming back.

848
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 2: Who was the presumed star. There's position a veteran, a

849
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: guy's been here for a long time, the basketball player,

850
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: good baseball player guy. I'm very well respected in this

851
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: lineup for Cist gualver is one. He's going down for

852
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: Hayden Sanger, who had never touched the major league field

853
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: before Cis Guilval was injured this past spring. I think

854
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: people are like, no, he's gonna go down with some

855
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: confidence because he's just at that home run. I don't

856
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: think you get demoded with confidence. I think when you

857
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: get demodeed this someone's been major leagues for three years

858
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: since squalfret' that's a shot to the confidence. I think

859
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: it's up to the coaches and the people around Alvarez

860
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: to make sure he maintains that confidence because even off

861
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: the field, it's been a hard year. It's been a

862
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: hard few years for the squad. Forrests the amount of

863
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: freak injuries that guy's had to his hands and wrist

864
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: as a power hitter and as a catcher having a baby.

865
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: A lot of shit's going on for this guy. And

866
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: I know, I think people have undersold how significant that

867
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: handmade bone injury was in the spring. We know how

868
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: serious injury is for power hitters going back years and

869
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: years and years. It's it's a well known thing. It's

870
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: all kind of toppled over for Sis Squalverasa one time,

871
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: and it sucks. But I said two episodes ago, I'll

872
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: say it again when Cal Rowley, who is the al

873
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: MVP frontrunner, was his age. He's only played about thirty

874
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: five games a double A. It's just catching is hard.

875
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: Catching takes time. I'm sure David Stearns Kurtler is still

876
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: at Oregon State at this time. Yeah, I think. I

877
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: think he was like kick return conference actually for Oregon

878
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: State football team. But I think every single day David

879
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: starts like, damn, I really wish up Billy Upper didn't

880
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: call these guys up so soon. Oh that's kind of

881
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: what it feels like. But it's just he just needs

882
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: a reset. It's a shame that he needs a reset.

883
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: At the same time, this team really needs right handed hitting,

884
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: power hitter. Ye know, we could really what the irony

885
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: that possibly is that we need him and he needs

886
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: not us.

887
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: Last thing we'll talk about from the series, at least

888
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: in my mind, David Peterson regression start just felt like

889
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: he didn't really have it. It was really one bad inning,

890
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: but that bad inning was a catastrophe. It was horrible

891
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: hanging sliders. It's two bad pitches, yeah, well a couple

892
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: two bad pitches for a really bad pitch, yeah, for

893
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: actual damage. But the entire inning he was just he

894
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: was not really even close to getting anything going. Kyle

895
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: Schwarber hit that ball over the batter's ion center field

896
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: that was absolutely demolish, and that had Muondo Sosa going

897
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: right center field. Makes me wonder why they don't play

898
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: him more over Bryson Stott when he's clearly a better

899
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: player he plays against lefties, stop plays against righty that's

900
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: kind of whether that's it is so so crush as

901
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: lefties he's never been, you know.

902
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: And Mundo is most known for himing umpire in the

903
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: year he's not really spon yeah, funniest clips ever, but

904
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: he's and Muso is a good baseball player. I've been

905
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: I've been tripping down mundo Osa for years. He's a

906
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: greatful two partner for Bryson Stott because Bryson's could barely hit, right,

907
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: He's definitely can't hit. It works out well for them,

908
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 2: but it's just I mean, also, you can't win a

909
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: game only two guys in the mess line got to hit.

910
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: You can't win a game like that.

911
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: Not possible.

912
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: You drew You drew one walk, Like, come on, guys,

913
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 2: someone do something here, like we got this is It

914
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: was such a blah boring game. We lay eggs on

915
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: Sunday night. Baseball's painful in the world. The world has

916
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: to see that.

917
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: And guess what. We get to go and play the

918
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: Atlanta Braves now at home, four game series against the

919
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: ball Wait, one more stupid thing.

920
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: Christ Deffenski is throwing much harder, So a couple miles

921
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: and hour hard of these last two three right, Yeah,

922
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: and he used to be like a ninety ninety one guys,

923
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: he's still got the good change of Mets having thrown

924
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: a sweeper in the color now. So maybe maybe it's

925
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: a glob of chaos middle reliever we can use for

926
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 2: the next few weeks, and Denniel looked Okay, he did

927
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: and still a little chunky.

928
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he might just that might just be him.

929
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: That might just be him. Now that's Fine's chicken and

930
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: rice and then chicken rice, paper, Andrea's rain and quick

931
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: other mentions about the minor leagues. We're getting some call

932
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: ups and promotions. Mets minor league has started to move fast. Carson,

933
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: I think is the biggest one. I want to talk

934
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 2: about moving to double A. Already a year after being drafted,

935
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: huge deal as left handed hitter went to Brooklyn, still

936
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: got to his power. Now getting to double a, this

937
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: is a huge jump for him, but also not that

938
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 2: Ani Goo jump because he play high vel college baseball.

939
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: We're seeing college baseball players move so fast right now.

940
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: It's it's cool if this guy's going to get to

941
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 2: double A, because now that tells us that Arizona fall

942
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: leap this fall, and you could be if things go perfectly,

943
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: you could see a promotion next year.

944
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say. Around the league in baseball,

945
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 1: we're seeing guys being called that quicker and quicker and quicker.

946
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: Mister Kurtz over on Oakland this time last year was

947
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: playing in his last game for wake Forest baseball, and

948
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: right now he's having really good at bats at the

949
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: major leagues for the A's, which is kind of crazy.

950
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: You're seeing a lot of dudes getting the call up,

951
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: but you mentioned Chase Burns. Turns Loki might just come

952
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: up and be one of the better pitchers in terms

953
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: of stuff in baseball, So keep an eye out for him.

954
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll have to face him at some point,

955
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: just because that's how it works.

956
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: But it's fast, and a lot of this happens because

957
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: a few years ago we shaved down the minor league system,

958
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: so you or development more focused on the individual players,

959
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: more individualized plans, and it's just it's just it's kind of

960
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 2: cool for baseball. I think because the fact that baseball

961
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: can push prospects now in a way that there's an

962
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 2: argument that there are some prospects in baseball they're moving

963
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 2: faster some prospects in basketball right now, which is incomprehensible

964
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 2: because we're seeing a lot of NBA prospects go prospect World,

965
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: go the opposit away where these players need like a

966
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 2: year or two. A lot of them are going to

967
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 2: the G League, A lot of them are doing five

968
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: to fifteen minutes a game before they even step into

969
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: real rotation roles. We're now we're seeing multiple guys from

970
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: a first round a year ago in the major leagues

971
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: within one season making huge impacts. Jack Hack, you don't

972
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: rob the home run today. Yeah, it's like I heard

973
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 2: he couldn't played the outfield, never played the outfield before

974
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: he was a pitcher this time last year, which is like,

975
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: it's just amazing what these guys are all doing. Which

976
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 2: is cool because we have another couple of guys, the pitchers,

977
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: who we just have to mention again. Jonahtan pitched into

978
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: the eighth inning eleven more strikeouts. He's become one of,

979
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 2: if not the best starting pitchering prospect in baseball, especially

980
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: at Chase Burns got called up. Good timing on that,

981
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: and Nolan McLean keeps dominating Triple A. When we talked

982
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: about it the week half ago, told us just that

983
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: sneaking suspicion Tom could actually get a major league appearance

984
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: before McLean because one McLean is still not complete the

985
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 2: full year only pitching this it's a big hurler from

986
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: the climb too. Tom has to be added to the

987
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: forty men roster by the end of the season, McLean

988
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: has another full season because he was drafted later than Tom.

989
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's I'm gonna choose my words here, Actually, no,

990
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: fucking I'm not choosing my words carefully. I think he's

991
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: guaranteed we see one of these guys and queens at

992
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 2: some point this season.

993
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.

994
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: I don't know.

995
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: It takes chances too, but I think definitely the reason

996
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: I lean more McLean is because I could he could

997
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: be a high octane reliever immediately right now, if they

998
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: want to watch his innings, if they want to watch

999
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: the arm comes in, throw an inning, maybe even two,

1000
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, ninety seven with a disgusting, wipeout

1001
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: slider that will play at any level, doesn't matter who

1002
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: you are. You have that you'll be able to get

1003
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: out at the major league level, which the Mets might

1004
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 1: need in this bullpen. Who knows classic David Stearn's bullpen

1005
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year will not look like

1006
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: what it does at the end of the season.

1007
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: No, And it also we just kind of need to

1008
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: shot in the arm with.

1009
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: This pitching staff.

1010
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 2: I mean, as we now switch over to the series

1011
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: preview with the Braves. You're gonna have Blackburn, Clay Homes,

1012
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: Frankie Matas and Griffin Cannon and four huge games where

1013
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: they're gonna have swelling backs, drive their grand Holmes and

1014
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: probably did thet.

1015
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: I talked about for a little bit Mantas Wednesday.

1016
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: Mantas is supposed to be Wednesday night.

1017
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: Are you trying to go to that game? You're gonna

1018
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: be busy? What's going on?

1019
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: I'm becovering that game and be sa that's my chef.

1020
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: I might I might have to be in person for

1021
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: the Frankie Montas debut. Where were you?

1022
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: I mean we're locking in Thursday. I'll be there one

1023
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: hundred Thursday on not think it keep me away Thursday,

1024
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: and I am thinking it would be fun to do

1025
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 2: our first train episode of the season. We've been holding

1026
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 2: on to it and we have Archie who said she'll

1027
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 2: do camera for us. Yes, yeah, So I think it'd

1028
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: be a good time because I don't think whatever happens

1029
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: that series, that will be some content on that train,

1030
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: and that'd be something that maybe we can record Thursday night,

1031
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: go home, record the real episode, drop the train episode

1032
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 2: Saturday morning. I think there could be some fun because

1033
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: we did the train episode last year. It was a

1034
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: real big hit. After a big series against the Phillies September,

1035
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: I want to do some more this year. But pitching

1036
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: matchups a series Monday Night seven ten City Field, Paul

1037
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: Blackburn for Spencer Swellenbach. That's just that's it. I'll say

1038
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: leave it at that. Tuesday we have Clay Holmes based

1039
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: on the Chris Saale injury because that was going to

1040
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: be his day on Tuesday. I think I'm assuming if

1041
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: I were with them. I haven't seen anything otherwise yet.

1042
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: I haven't seen your tweet from our bowman or any

1043
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: of the Braves people. They probably will bring Spencer Streyder

1044
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 2: up a day to pitch on five days to face

1045
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: Grant Holmes, Clay Homes Homes and Clay Holmes, and then

1046
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: maybe they bring up Grant Holmes to pitch on five

1047
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: days again because that would be his day as well.

1048
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 2: Or did the Air twentys who pitch for the Braves

1049
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 2: may his major League debut on Friday, as they tried

1050
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: to lengthen the rotation to make sure these four guys

1051
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: face the Mets again next week. He winds up pitching

1052
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 2: either Wednesday or Thursday, and then they keep avoiding because

1053
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 2: they keep avoiding Bryce Elder against the Mets.

1054
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: So is there is there a chance we get a

1055
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: home squared matchup homes orus homes.

1056
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 2: We probably won't get homes ors homes unless we push

1057
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: our homes back because they're homes to scheduled for Thursday

1058
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: and our homes schedule for Tuesday, So we're not gonna

1059
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 2: be able to meet in the middle yet. But I

1060
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: do think that because then Wednesday will be Mantas against

1061
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: maybe Fentes. The Braves might even just line up Pentes

1062
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: against Mansas, knowing they're gonna be able to hit Mansas,

1063
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: and then that'll leave Thursday for Griffin Canning versus Grant Holmes.

1064
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: No faith in Frankie.

1065
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 2: I have faith in Frankie, but just seeing that data

1066
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: from Triple A it makes me upset. And seeing how

1067
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: long them has left him down there, with how badly

1068
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: they've needed pitchers also does not give me much confidence.

1069
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: They gotta get him. They gotta get him some needles,

1070
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: get him back on the juice, get him hiped up.

1071
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: Something he may.

1072
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: Maybe city feel against Frankie montis hyped up. But this

1073
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Speaker 2: is just we I mean, first of all, we just

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Speaker 2: saw these guys. Thankfully we're not seeing Chris sale Schwellenbox's

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00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: incredible Streithers just to rat Grant Holmes also quite good.

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Speaker 2: We didn't see Grant Holmes last time. Grenh Holmes is

1077
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: Kenny Powers. If you guys are bad down fans like,

1078
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 2: that's him. Super crazy story that he was kind of

1079
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: hot first round draft pick while like a decade ago

1080
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 2: by the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so long. I have a bunch of first bowman

1082
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: autos of Grant Holmes from like twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's awesome. Yeah, because the first round

1084
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: pick bounced around for a while, cut by a few

1085
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: different teams, he just always struggled with his weight. He

1086
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: could never like find consistency, find any durrance. His wife

1087
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 2: is a dietitian and one time she was like, hey,

1088
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: like we should start, like, you know, figuring some stuff

1089
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 2: out with you found out he was allergic to dairy?

1090
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: Was he the Gary forever cut dairy dropped the fifteen

1091
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 2: pounds he needed just like he just like Marc over

1092
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: here kind of reverse remarked there and then got himself

1093
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 2: into the braves that he got it was in the

1094
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: Mexican League and another independent league. Got himself to the

1095
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: Braves last year. Pitched out of the pen, start pitching

1096
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: out of rotation. Came to camp this year. He's got

1097
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 2: two breaking balls and a good fastball. It's very solid pitcher,

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00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: really good back, middle rotation guy at the Braves. Just

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00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 2: kind of for lack of ved ter, im locked into here. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Twenty fourteen first round pick out of Conway High School

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00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 1: in Conway, South Carolina. He is at Harrison Grant Home.

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00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: So he's got some good stuff. When he strike out

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00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen against the Rockies, fifteen strikeouts, two starts to

1104
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: go against the Rockies, it's real stuff. He's he's quite

1105
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: a good pitcher. Then Flentes I gotta talk about for

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00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: a second because I picked him up very early in

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00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: Fantasy because you texted me. You're like, Jean, did he

1108
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: air Puente is? I'm like no, But the fact that

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00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: you tell me about it, he got called up to

1110
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: Triple A, like the that day when you texted me, yeah,

1111
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: like he's coming, and I was like, there's like one hundred,

1112
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: I'll pick him up.

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00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: Why not The Braves do this, I think more than

1114
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: any other team. As we talk about people rushing prospects,

1115
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: beside that rushing, but like pushing them as far as

1116
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 2: they can go. Besides the Angels who just say drafted

1117
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: major leagues, the Braves are a team that's willing to

1118
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: do this, especially with their pitchers. We saw a j.

1119
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 2: Smith schav for debut two years ago as twenty year old.

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00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: I say it all the time. Specter Swellemback made twenty

1121
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: four total starts between high school and the major leagues,

1122
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 2: and he's a side young contender. The Braves are like,

1123
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: if you're ready, you're ready, and they deemed fenty's ready,

1124
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: mostly because they are so blow pitching death in their system.

1125
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: But he broke out major way in the Spring Breakout

1126
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: Game this year, seven strikeouts in three innings against the Tigers.

1127
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 2: The fastball pushed up to ninety seven and usually says

1128
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: ninety four to ninety five like a perfect shape on it,

1129
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: sweeper splitther curveball that acts more like a slurve. He's

1130
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 2: got funky stuff. He didn't. It looked like he didn't

1131
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 2: have a good start at box scot wise against the

1132
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: Marlins his debut on Friday. But August Rmire has just

1133
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,479
Speaker 2: hit a hot shot, Mark's favorite catcher in the league,

1134
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: a four hundred and forty foot missile. Damn, can't say

1135
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: say that word. My bad all the baseball, you miss

1136
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: I gotta find some more home I gotta find some

1137
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: more home run Lingo, you can, You're fine. I'm gona

1138
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: try to avoid more time. But it was the stuff

1139
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 2: he settled in well after struggling early to start. Of course,

1140
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: facing Marlins On facing the Mets, he someone I'd like

1141
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: to crush. But yeah, the game, we gotta circle the series.

1142
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: We gotta work cut out for us, though the Mets

1143
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: offense has to come to play cityfield. We gotta bring

1144
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: it this week Mark are gonna beat a few games each.

1145
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 2: I think I probably won't be a Thursday, but we gotta.

1146
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 2: We gotta go like this team needs to win some

1147
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: baseball games here because this has gone on long enough.

1148
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: We can't let this keep going and kind of drag

1149
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 2: our way into the All Star break like this.

1150
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah again. Luckily the Braves shit the bed this weekend,

1151
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: so the crazy didn't grain a ground on us again.

1152
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: We have an opportunity to step on next. Please please

1153
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: step on next. I'm tired. I don't want the Braves

1154
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: to hang around. We're lions. We can't associate ourselves with fleas.

1155
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: If you can win three against the Braves in this series,

1156
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: after they just lost Chris Sale and they keep shuffling

1157
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: their rotations, you face their best pitchers.

1158
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: That's it. You could. You can put them. You can

1159
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: almost almost put them to bed. If you win three

1160
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: out of four of this series, you can. You have

1161
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: the opportunity to do that, especially if you could do

1162
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: with Blackburn, Homes, Mantess and Canning like this good get them.

1163
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: And especially with the trade deadline approaching and the Atlanta

1164
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: Braves ownership being very prudent about spending money, they are

1165
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: gonna have to think about if they want to dump

1166
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: some of these contracts that they have right now and expiring. Guys,

1167
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: I would personally love to see the Atlanta Braves be

1168
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: sellers at the trade deadline. I don't know about you, guys,

1169
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: but I would really like that.

1170
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't even know if I would, because I

1171
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: don't even want them to accelerate anything here because they

1172
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: have no prospects. I don't just like them. I almost

1173
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: like them to slop around like a fish the whole

1174
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: second half, kind of like the Angels have always done.

1175
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: But I'm also gonna say, I don't know your opinion

1176
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: on this. I'm executive. They bringing Frankie Peppers back this episode.

1177
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: Okay, bring him back, bring him back. I did say

1178
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: they need to win a game. I said they need

1179
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: to win.

1180
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna be a little bitchy about,

1181
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: you know, losing the series. Still, frank people, the people

1182
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: need Frankie at a time like this.

1183
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Frankie hopefully is gonna give us words of encouragement.

1184
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Frankie that I had to borrow you from

1185
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: last episode. We just had to change something up. And hey,

1186
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: they got one win. I said, when the Mets win,

1187
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: Frankie comes back. So, Frankie, what do you got for us?

1188
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: Without further ado, Frankie Peppers, this.

1189
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 3: Is frank This is why I don't know if I'm

1190
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 3: going to be on the Mess Up Show. You know,

1191
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 3: only winning one game and really getting trounced to lose

1192
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 3: the two a second game, one bad inning from David Peterson.

1193
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 3: But you know you can't score more than one run,

1194
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: you can't win the game. I got sunburned really bad today.

1195
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 3: I was I was outside watching a professional wrestling event

1196
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 3: and I put sunscreen on, But turns out there's a

1197
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 3: difference between like a chemical and a physical sunscreen. I

1198
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 3: used to a chemical sunscreen, not a physical. So I'm

1199
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 3: like a lobster right now. So I hope you boys

1200
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 3: are doing good. Missed you last week, and hopefully this

1201
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 3: one win is able to get something moving. And feel

1202
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 3: bad for Alpharez, but he's got to work his problems

1203
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 3: out and I have no doubt that he will, So

1204
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 3: thank you boys. I'm going to go apply lotion to

1205
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 3: my arms because I I feel like thanks boys.

1206
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: Poor Frankie. I think he was using theoretical sunscreen there.

1207
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what is, but physical versus scientific sunscreen,

1208
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even know how to interpret that.

1209
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: Also professional wrestling outdoors and what the weather was like

1210
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: in New York area on Sunday. Hell, that's helping hellish

1211
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: hell the hellish conditions for wrestling. But happy we got

1212
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 2: Frankie back. The people miss Frankie. You we heard you

1213
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: guys in the comments on Twitter after the last episode.

1214
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: You miss Frankie. We all needed Frankie. So I'm happy

1215
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: we got to get Frankie back. But got play by

1216
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 2: the baseball against his Braves team not doing Did you

1217
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: see that Lindor reference the series, No, I did not.

1218
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 2: So Athlin Door hit the home run on Saturday, the

1219
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 2: two home runs, No, the home run the double on Saturday.

1220
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: Someone asked him like, hey, you know the team has

1221
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: won twenty eight games, ro you've homeward. That streak was

1222
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: then broken on Sunday because he hit the Chris Paul

1223
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 2: home run to cut the least fifty four points, and

1224
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 2: he was like, I really wish to hit some homers

1225
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: against the Braves. So it's like this team knows, like,

1226
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 2: you gotta beat the Braves like there if it's sticking

1227
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: with them. A few days later, of course it's sticking

1228
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 2: with us. But it's like you gotta you just gotta

1229
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: play well this yeriares and we saw you brace fans

1230
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 2: the comments last episode too. I hope you guys come

1231
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: back at for this one, in the next one and

1232
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 2: for every single episode. We know how much you guys

1233
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: love the Metstuff podcast. Going back to Meters, they.

1234
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: Live in their wood huts out in the forest, so

1235
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 1: they got nothing better to do but listen to Mets podcasts, apparently.

1236
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: But we'll take it.

1237
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 2: I actually can't believe that the Internet reaches out to

1238
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: you know, all the back country if you can talk

1239
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: about as where those Braise fans live. So I really

1240
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 2: hope they hope they able to catch this episode as well.

1241
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 1: They're probably going to like their their local hot spot

1242
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: that everyone meets and gathers that to read their telegraphs

1243
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: that are coming in through ut the internet. So maybe

1244
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: they get transcripts of our podcast from the pigeons that

1245
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: bring that brings information to the South, super super possible.

1246
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: I mean, listen to somebody who lived in the South.

1247
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: You take the wrong turn, You're like, where the hell

1248
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: am I right now? I have no idea. I didn't

1249
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: know that places like this existed.

1250
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: Called that Brace country, young man. I think that's it

1251
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: before I do. That's an accent.

1252
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: That's it, guys. Thank you for listening, Thank you for watching.

1253
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,680
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1254
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: podcast over on YouTube, drop a light on the video.

1255
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: What's the next thing I say? If you're listening to

1256
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: us Apple podcasts, Spotify, Google drops the rating, drops review,

1257
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: download and subscribe, follow us on all our social media

1258
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: app mets uff again, I don't know when them. We'll

1259
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: get to you. I'm sure soon soon. If you order again,

1260
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: link will be in the description. We forgot to link

1261
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: it on the last episode, I think, so we got

1262
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: to link the merch this time. Yes, link will be

1263
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: in the description. If you want to go out and

1264
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: get you some remember to tweet us, Instagram, us, whatever.

1265
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: We will repost it as long as you allow us,

1266
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: and you can follow James on social media at James Chiano.

1267
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm drafting Mark with the c thank you ays for

1268
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Speaker 1: listening to watch you remember Thursday train episode, be there

1269
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: b Square.

1270
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: The last car on the seven train after the game,

1271
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 2: the last express train back to Manhattan, the last car

1272
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 2: all the way down. We're gonna be in there, camera, microphone,

1273
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: ready to talk to you guys.

1274
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: We're usually like not the first seven, we're usually the

1275
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: second one.

1276
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: So yes, so if you guys will be we'll be

1277
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: hanging out congregating on the platform. We're not gonna go

1278
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: on so we have five or six people ready to go,

1279
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: so come back hang out with us. Say what's up,

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Speaker 2: even if you don't want to be a camera happy

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Speaker 2: to say what's up, but just be around for the

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Speaker 2: train episode.

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Speaker 3: Just end.

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Speaker 2: We'll have you guys, the Last Tickers love to hang

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Speaker 2: and if you do guys, If you guys want to

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Speaker 2: be featured episode The Mess Up Podcast, we'll be ready

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Speaker 2: to go.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much. We'll catch you all after

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Speaker 1: the brave series Les Fucking Go Mets.

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Speaker 2: It's called Mets Baby peace Out