1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Hey, Ryan Ripkin is here with us right now. We're 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: talking Orioles. You can follow him at Ryan Ripkins Show 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: on Twitter and then also just type that right into 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: YouTube and you can check out his show all about 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: baseball and the Baltimore Orioles, which are the hot topic 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: right now. Ryan, Good to see you here. I saw 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: you briefly at the Winter Meetings. In the scramble. I 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: was like half sprinting over to get to the set 9 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: in time. I'm always that guy. But anyway, good to 10 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: see you here. And a lot's changed since I saw you. 11 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo added to the mix your thoughts. 12 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course that happens when I'm leaving. I left 13 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: Tuesday night and I was hoping there'd be a little 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: bit of action. It was good to see you, though, 15 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 2: Scott and you were hustling. But I got to say 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 2: in Baltimore, for the Baltimore fan base, they've been waiting 17 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 2: for a move to happen, right And I've gotten a 18 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: lot of texts from people saying this is the most 19 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: fun off season. All of a sudden, it wasn't fun 20 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: maybe twelve hours prior whenever it was, or twenty four 21 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: hours when Kyle Schwarber signed back to the Phillies. Everyone 22 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: goes here. Here, the O's are again. They're not landing 23 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: the big guy, even though we all felt that Kyle 24 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: schwarber best fit was back with the Phillies. But it's 25 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: proved that the Orioles are going for it. They're in it, 26 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: and they needed a guy that posts up. They need 27 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: a guy that you can plug in no concerns. And 28 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: when they lost Santon Dare the year prior, that was 29 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: their leading RBI offensive guy the past three seasons. And 30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: now you're getting Pete Alonzo that's averaging forty jacks one 31 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty ribbies over that timeframe. So I love it, 32 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: and I think the bigger indication is whether it works 33 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: out for five years or not. You know, time will tell, 34 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: but it's showing the fan base and future free agents 35 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 2: that Baltimore is going to continue to be aggressive and 36 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: I believe they're far from done here as we continue 37 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: on the rest of this offseason. 38 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: Obviously, we want them to get pitching, That's that's obvious, 39 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: But does this signing of a position player, which they 40 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 3: went out and got Tyler and Neil last year and 41 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 3: felt like that wasn't great use of their money, and 42 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: then Ramon Lariano, Now you have a marquee free agent. 43 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: Is there any indication that this could make a Gunner 44 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: Henderson and Adlie Rutchman a one of these young stars 45 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 3: maybe sign an extension, like, Hey, why am I gonna 46 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: sign an extension? None of my buddies are gonna be here. 47 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: But now you have a power bat that's going to 48 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: hit in front of or behind one of those guys 49 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 3: that they haven't extended to this point. 50 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 51 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: I think one of the underlying things is that, uh, 52 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 2: Alonzo's a Boris guy, and so the Orioles, if we 53 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 2: want to do the math here, they got quite a 54 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: few Boris guys on that team, Jackson Holliday, Jordan Westburg, 55 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: Gunner Henderson. Now Gunner's gonna it's gonna cost the Os 56 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: maybe like a full Uh. They're gonna have to bring 57 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: a bank to get Gunner, And I don't know what 58 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: that's gonna look like for him, but I do think 59 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: it sends a message that one the Orioles have said, Hey, 60 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: we're willing to Scott and all of your clients. We 61 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: want you to be in Baltimore. We want our guys 62 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: to be in Baltimore, and I think that is the 63 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: messaging here, you know, the crazy thing here for the Orioles. 64 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: If you look at the deals that have been done 65 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: over time, this is the second largest contract in Orioles history. 66 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 2: Chris Davis was the big one. Then now it's Pete 67 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: Alonzo and then there's a huge discrepancy between Pete Alonzo's 68 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: contract to the third highest. So yeah, I think that 69 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: this is going to open up the doors at the 70 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: end of the day. You know, I was talking with 71 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: a few people about the Kyle Schwarber dial just for 72 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: one second, is when you're looking at organizations of why 73 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: you want to sign somewhere or extend, do you see 74 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: the vision moving forward and do you see that the 75 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: team is going to put the resources in to help 76 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 2: players accomplish what they want to do. Because what do 77 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: players want? They want to secure their future with a 78 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: contract and they want to go win. And so when 79 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: you looked at the teams in on Shoreber, if they 80 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: were saying, you know, the Phillies, the Pirates, the Reds, 81 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: the Orioles. Of those two tames, only the Phillies had 82 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: proven that they were gonna go out there and spend 83 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: now Baltimore saying hey, hey, we're willing to do this. 84 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: Now we got the core Westy Gunner Jackson, we want 85 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: you here long term. And I do think that that's 86 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: going to open up the avenue for them moving into 87 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. But I know they still got to 88 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: add a couple pieces here at free agency and then 89 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: we'll look towards next year to see what happens. 90 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, talking about that, I mean, now it's basically on 91 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 4: the pitching, Like who who do you think they trade 92 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 4: for or trade out of to get a starting pitcher? 93 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 4: I mean, Adlely Mountcastle, Like there's there's a bunch of 94 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 4: guys that they can do it for. They need some 95 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 4: starting pitching. 96 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: They certainly do, so, I mean, if I uh, I 97 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: don't think it's rocket science to say that the Oils 98 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: have a few guys that can play first base this 99 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: year and Pete Alonzo's gonna be taking up the majority 100 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,119 Speaker 2: of those reps, because why the dude just plays every 101 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: single day. So if that's gonna be the case and 102 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: you're looking at who else you have, Sam Beasaio is 103 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: gonna get at bats at first in dh Adley Rutchman, 104 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: I don't think is going anywhere. I want to put 105 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: that the rest they need Adlee and Adley bounce back. 106 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: I believe in that. But then you're looking at Mayo 107 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 2: and Mountcastle and you know, Maunie when I was in 108 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: the organization playing Mounted was the best bat I saw 109 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: at the time coming through just pure bat to ball skills. 110 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: But he's lost some confidence and he's had trouble staying healthy, 111 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: and he's also doesn't have the years of control that 112 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: teams want. Then there's Kobe Mayo, and Kobe I think 113 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna hit. I think he's gonna figure 114 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: it out, but he's gonna have to get it bats. 115 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: So I think of the trade pieces, Mayo has more 116 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 2: value when it comes to team control. So you heard 117 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: the rumors about you know, Edward Cabrera, Mackenzie Gore, guys 118 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: that have team control and have that upside to be 119 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: let's just say they're a third on a staff, but 120 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: have an upside to be a one. Not gonna go 121 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: that far to say as a one, but they have 122 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: the upside too. You know, uh, Kobe and a couple 123 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: guys I could see happening, But the reality is something 124 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: has to give, and I think what michaelis and the 125 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: front office realized that last year they wanted to see, 126 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: with the crop of players that they had that they 127 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: had developed, who was going to be a part of 128 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: their plan and who was going to take that next step. 129 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: And the reality is, you know, they might have gotten 130 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: some of those questions answered and others might be undefined, 131 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: but they can't wait any longer. I think that's the 132 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: bigger part they need to win. Look at the rest 133 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 2: of the Al East, it's a gauntlet. Toronto's window is 134 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 2: wide open. The Red Sox and Yankees, they don't rebuild, 135 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 2: they retool. And then the Rays are the team that 136 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: they're just gonna be a pain in the butt because 137 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: they just they play the game hard and they find 138 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: ways to stay competitive. So yeah, it's to me they're 139 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: gonna trade one of those guys mount of or Mao 140 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised with either, and then they're gonna going 141 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: out and get a They're gonna go out and sign 142 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: a guy. I see the tweet up there. Yeah, I 143 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: truly believe like the ale least and this is why 144 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: I love the Winter right this division. If you are 145 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: for real, you gotta go out there and spend you 146 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: got to go out there and make moves. So I 147 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: for sure think Baltimore is at least going to make 148 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 2: two more moves here before we get towards spring training. 149 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: I mean two big moves to be uh specific. 150 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: Does Pete need to be what they were going after 151 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: Kyle Schwarber for Kyle Schwarber, Oh, this amazing leader. He 152 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: leads this clubhouse, He leads young guys. That's why the 153 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: Reds wanted them. Does Pete need to be that in 154 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 3: this clubhouse of young guys that are now kind of 155 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: not that young in experience, Like you said, it's time 156 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: to go now. But so does he need to be that? 157 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: Or does he just need to be forty homers on 158 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: a team that only had somebody that hit seventeen was 159 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: the highest. 160 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 161 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: I mean, well, the first thing is he has to 162 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: He's going to take the brunt of it right, He's 163 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: expected to post up the ballpark. The ball is gonna 164 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: leave the ballpark early and often with him. And he's 165 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: your RBI guy. And I've talked to a lot of 166 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: people about this. I know some people say, hey, RBI 167 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: is that it's a byproduct of where you are miss 168 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: me with that you're an RBI guy or you aren't. 169 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: And Pete Alonzo is an RBI guy. And what I 170 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: said last year for the Orioles going into the season, 171 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: because they had question marks on the pitching side, but 172 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: they had this young talent and the motto that I 173 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: had was they go as far as their young core 174 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: takes them. And they struggled. And now the pitching was tough, 175 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: but the offense was supposed to be their strength and 176 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: it wasn't. So the addition of Pete Alonzo what it 177 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: really does take the pressure off these guys that develop 178 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: still at the big league level. There's gonna be stress 179 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: and pressure, but you don't have to be the guy anymore. 180 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: I mean, right now, Pete Alonzo is gonna be one 181 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: of those guys, Taylor Ward is gonna be one of 182 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: those guys, and then Gunner Henderson can slot in be 183 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: that third for you. Oh and by the way, Jordan Wesper, 184 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 2: he looks ready to go. So I think the addition 185 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: more than anything, it just takes the pressure off of 186 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: the guys having to prove something while they're still trying 187 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: to figure out how to be a big leaguer. I 188 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: think that. That's something that people underestimate is that you 189 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: might have all the talent in the world, but when 190 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: you have expectations that are on you and not just 191 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 2: expectations like they're expecting you to be the reason why 192 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: the Orioles win. Bring in Pete Alonzo, bringing Taylor Ward 193 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: and then Gunner and Westy, Well, then let those other 194 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 2: guys like Cowser and Jackson and Adley get back on track. 195 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: And this lineup can be really dangerous because of that. 196 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: All right, there's what if they're losing games eight to 197 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: seven because the rest of this offseason, like you just said, 198 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 3: the American League East is gunning after some pitching, the 199 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 3: American League East is gunning after the rest. You can't 200 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 3: just continue to add to your position players if they 201 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 3: don't add to the pitchers. You said they're gonna add 202 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: to the starting rotation. But you know, I get that 203 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 3: in five dollars, and I got five dollars at the 204 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 3: end of the off season. If it doesn't happen. 205 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: Well, I hear you. I see what you're trying to 206 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: spend here. But I can say pretty confidently you know 207 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: they're not gonna get burned twice. I would be shocked. 208 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is last year they 209 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 2: were trying to figure some things out. And I think 210 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: one part that people are missing when new ownership comes in. 211 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: Some of it it's hitting the ground running. Others is 212 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 2: let's assess what we have and go from there. With 213 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: what happened last year, it's stung so deeply and it 214 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: was deep rooted in Baltimore. Everything that Michael I said 215 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: on his wish list has happened so far except starting Pitcher. 216 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: They will make another move. It's not not a maybe, 217 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: it's it's a guarantee. They will go get another guy. 218 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: I think that they get too for all the reasons 219 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: that they mentioned. And this is even for the long term. 220 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: It we're talking about building momentum Baltimore, even with the 221 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: down here last year. If we look in that division, 222 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: they make a couple moves Baltimore just like Toronto, Boston, 223 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: New York, they can win the AL East, and not 224 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: only win the East, they could go to the World Series. 225 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 2: So I think the urgency is there. Uh And I 226 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: think the best lesson is learning from the past. And 227 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: I know that michaelas in the front office, took a 228 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: lot of heat last year, but one thing I want 229 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: people to understand is there was a reflection period and 230 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 2: going I I didn't do enough. I messed up, and 231 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: his actions now have to speak louder. And so far 232 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: his actions are showing he's learned a lot. But when 233 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: the deal's done, people feel a lot better. But I 234 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: I know moves coming, and I'm just curious on uh 235 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 2: if I'm right on who it's. 236 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: Going to be. 237 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: Uh uh, well, tod father, I mean, you do your thing, 238 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: but I also I mean your Todd father, So can 239 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: you little can you bry a prediction out of him? 240 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: That? 241 00:11:58,800 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: That's what? 242 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 4: That was my next question I was gonna say, I 243 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 4: say this al least is stacked. If people are going 244 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 4: left and right, who's gonna be the next team to 245 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 4: get after? You know a Bellinger? You know Bregman, But yeah, 246 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 4: I don't know. Give me, give me something you think 247 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 4: that might happen unless you're trying to keep it hidden 248 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 4: for Christmas? 249 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 5: No, you say about for all for all teams here 250 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 5: or just like give me your thoughts first, and then 251 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 5: what do you think about the last who's gonna be 252 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 5: the next big gun going to a big team? 253 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: Just from understanding it? Toronto looks like they're gonna land. 254 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: They're either bringing back Bow in my opinion, or Tucker 255 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 2: right because you know, talking to Mark Shapiro, president of operations, 256 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: I remember last year I talked to him to beginning 257 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: spring or the season, and he said, we're a big market. 258 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: I think people don't recognize that, and they've been in 259 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: on guys. And then who's the first big pitcher to sign. 260 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: It's Dylan Ce to Toronto. I would be shocked if 261 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 2: if they don't land Baschett or Tucker. But then I 262 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: look at the they need someone with Judge, they need 263 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: someone and and Bellies. I believe that I'm hearing the 264 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: years in dispute. If they really like him and he's versatile, 265 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: you make it work and and it's hardball right now, 266 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 2: but that that seems like a good fit there. And 267 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: then there's Boston where Bregman makes the most sense because 268 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 2: it's comfortability. Could the trademarket happen? You hear Martell, You 269 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: hear names thrown out there. The Red Sox like to 270 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 2: be strategical, but they need a big bat like I. 271 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: I would like to say that those guys go where 272 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: I expect them to. But if We're going off of 273 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: what we just talked about and looking at the construction 274 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: of the Al East and if the Red Sox, the Yankees, 275 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: the Blue Jays, and Orioles want to be for real, 276 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: you got to keep up. And those are the big names. 277 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: The one I'm really curious about, though, of the free agents, 278 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: is what's gonna happen with Ran Ervaldez. You know, talk 279 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: about a guy that can that can tip the tip 280 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: how people feel. And I know with everything that happened 281 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: in Houston and down the stretch there, you know, is 282 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: that a worry? Is that a concern? If you're not 283 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: concerned and he goes out and does this thing, He's 284 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: the top arm still available. So I'm really curious. But 285 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: that's that's my gut. I think that a lot of 286 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 2: the big names stay in the Al East. I'd be 287 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: shocked if they don't, because the Yankees, we've seen it. 288 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: Aaron Judge is not human, but he needs help, so yeah, 289 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 2: he needs help, and and the and the Yankees already 290 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: got an unbelievable pitching staff. So we'll see and maybe 291 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: off off times, I can, uh, we can talk more 292 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: about some moves, but I'm I'm expecting things to get 293 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: to get a buzz in here in the next few days. 294 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: You you you were kind of leading in and we 295 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I gotta I gotta ask when you heard 296 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: Robert Suarez signed, were you fearful that your possible prediction 297 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 3: was a Suarez that wasn't going to the Orioles. Is 298 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 3: that your is that your prediction of who you think 299 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: the Orioles are gonna sign? 300 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: And Ranger Suarez? Oh? Man, Well, I will say this. 301 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: I if we're looking at value and you're looking at 302 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: you know, just opportunity, what you get out of someone 303 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: risk reward. I thought Ranger Suarez to Baltimore was as 304 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: as great of an opportunity because here's the reason. When 305 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: you look at the other guys, like if you're looking 306 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: at Zach Allen, you're looking at Framber Valdez, you're looking 307 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: at any of those other pitchers, they probably got better 308 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: overall stuff. Ranger Suarez knows how to pitch, and you know, 309 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: it's how to pitch in big games, and for the 310 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: Orioles you need consistency overall. So I just thought it 311 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: was a best fit. But then you wonder, you know, 312 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: if Mackenzie Gore becomes available, do the Nats and Orioles 313 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: make the first trade in the in the history between 314 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: the two teams, perhaps, but I just for the Orioles, 315 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: what I think they need is dependability and consistency. The 316 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: two guys that fit that mold right now are either 317 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: Framburg or Ranger, and Ranger is going to be the 318 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: cheap So I just think it makes a lot of 319 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: sense with Ranger, Suarez and whoever it is, having Kyle 320 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: bradish back. I think people don't realize how good bradish is. 321 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: He was my one teammate where I watched him and said, 322 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: thank goodness, I never have to face you in the minors. 323 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 2: And then Trevor Rodgers, if he's seventy percent of what 324 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: he was factored in with one of these guys, Baltimore 325 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: oriol Staff is going to look really good. 326 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: Okay, I know what Kratz wants to do. He wants 327 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: to spend Baltimore's money, right, But I'm going to try 328 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: and be the middleman here and be realistic. For my 329 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: final question, I'm with you. One starter from the market 330 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: two I don't think is very realistic, Like are they 331 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: going to get Ranger Suarez and Framber Baldez or tatsu 332 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: am I right, I think one of those guys goes 333 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: to Baltimore, but Ryan, for me, I still need another 334 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: ideally top end guy, a one, two or three, a 335 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: guy that can pitch in a playoff game for them. 336 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: And I do think you mentioned Gore, that's a good name. 337 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: I still think they might be able to pry away 338 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: someone like Freddy Peralta for the right package. So who 339 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: do you think contains the most value that they can 340 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: afford to lose? 341 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: Is it Kobe Mayo? 342 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: Is his value still high enough that they can swing 343 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 1: a deal for one year Freddy? And maybe you know, 344 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: an a ball or more of a high ceiling, low 345 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: level prospect. They've done business like that before, right, they 346 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: did Joey Ortiz and d L. Hall and I think 347 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: a pick a compick for Corbyn Burns and that actually 348 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: worked out really well for them. I know they didn't 349 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: win a playoff ya in that year, but it wasn't 350 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: Corbin's fault. 351 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: For sure. Yeah, Burns are shoving, you know in the playoffs. 352 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 2: I think the Orioles pitching staff will out three runs 353 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: in that game and the Royals walked out that series win. 354 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: That's a sensitive spot. So we'll move past that. But 355 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: overall overall, Freddy peralta great pitcher, you know. But I 356 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: think for the Orioles, if you trade for Freddy you 357 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: want to find a way to extend him. This time 358 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: Corbyn go which you know Corbyn want to go to Arizona. 359 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: Players have their own priorities and it made sense. But 360 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: I think for the Orioles, if you get Peralta, you'd 361 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: have to extend him. Guys with team control, that seems 362 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: more of the option. But when you're saying about who's 363 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: the most valuable, I think it depends on how you 364 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 2: view Kobe Mayo, because he's big league ready, he needs 365 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: it bets, So Kobe right now would probably have the 366 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: most value. And then the Orioles just got a ton 367 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: of pitching prospects over the last trade deadline here, right, 368 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 2: so they could package some things together depending on the 369 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: team that they're talking to. So the Brewers Kobe Mayo 370 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 2: could be enticing and it doesn't have to take as much. 371 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: But if you're talking about the Gnats, for instance, for Gore, hypothetically, 372 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: you know they're in a little bit more of a rebuild, 373 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: so if they do that, they might want some of 374 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: those young, appealing arms that are maybe a year or 375 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: two away but still want to headline with a big bet. 376 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,239 Speaker 2: So I think answer for me, Kobe Mayo still has 377 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: the most value, but it just to be determined on 378 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 2: what they do. I think mount Castle. While I think 379 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: I believe Mountie can bounce back in the right situation, 380 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: he's not gonna be under contract for much longer. So yeah, 381 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: I think that's the need. But Peralta, only if you 382 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 2: extend him. I think elsewhere would make more sense for Baltimore, 383 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: at least at least for what what I've mentioned so far. Right, 384 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 2: good stuff. 385 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: I love your insight, and you know how the baseball 386 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: world works. Whenever you're away or something else is going 387 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: on in life, that's when everything will happen. It's always 388 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: how it works, dude. The amount of times like we're 389 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: on air for hours and hours and then it's Saturday 390 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: night at eleven thirty pm and an agent smartly connects 391 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: with an owner who's having a cocktail or two and 392 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: they get the job done. 393 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 2: Just the way it works. Scott about to be on 394 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 2: a plane in about a couple hours. Here, I there 395 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 2: will be a move while I'm in the air. And 396 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 2: I'm going this is fantastic with that. Hey, the baseball 397 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: world don't sleep, but it's fun. But I appreciate you 398 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: guys and Scott. We'll have more time to catch up 399 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 2: next time when we're not running around in the future. 400 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 2: But I appreciate you guys. Thank you. Yeah, you too. 401 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: And one more plug at the back end here for everyone. 402 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: Ryan does this all the time, so check it out 403 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: on YouTube on his socials Ryan Rifkin Show, super easy 404 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: to find. He knows what he's talking about here with 405 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: the super dialed in. Thanks again, Ryan, and save travels. 406 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: Thanks guys, appreciate it. 407 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: Todd Father Pete Alonso earned his nickname the Polar Bear 408 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: by being friends with you. Let's just be real about it. 409 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 4: You gave him the nickname. 410 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: And now he's in Baltimore. It's a little bit warmer 411 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: down in Baltimore compared to New York, a little bit 412 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: tougher for a polar Bear, but maybe easier for a 413 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: polar Bear with less of the New York heat and 414 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: a team that was super disappointing. He goes to a 415 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: different team in Baltimore that was disappointing this past season. 416 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: But hey, you were on top of the Orioles as 417 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: much as anyone. Todd Father, you were like, this is 418 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: not a playoff team. You said that a year ago. 419 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: What do you think about Pete's departure? Take me through 420 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: all of this, since you know Pete quite well. 421 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, well, I'm first going to say here. 422 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 4: Once the news broke, I had to text my son, 423 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 4: he's a monster Mets fan, and I said, Blake, I said, 424 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 4: I'm very sorry your favorite player just got traded. And 425 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 4: he said, what was the zach words? Are fake news? 426 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 4: Fake news, fake news? And I said, no, Bud, I 427 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 4: said he's gone and he's going to the Orioles. And 428 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 4: didn't get a text back. So I told my wife, 429 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 4: I said, please text Blake and make sure he's okay. 430 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 4: So he's doing better now. The I got so much, 431 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 4: so many messages and calls about it. I had. I 432 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 4: had a baseball practice that night. People were talking about 433 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 4: it left and right. We need a new team, this 434 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 4: and that. The fans. The fans aren't happy. I know that. 435 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 4: I know that. I know the fans are disgusted with 436 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 4: Stearns and trying to figure out what the heck is 437 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 4: their next move. I don't know what their next move is. 438 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 4: But I am very happy for Peter Alonzo. I couldn't 439 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 4: be more happier for the guy because of what he 440 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 4: went through the last couple of years. He deserved more 441 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 4: in New York. He did, he did. He deserved a 442 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 4: big contract there. They should have gave it to him. 443 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 4: He was in absolute stud He's always been. He's always 444 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 4: been dominant. He's always had a lot of home runs. 445 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: He's he's been around the block, a hundred RBI guy 446 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 4: each and every year. He does stuff around the city. 447 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 4: He's very he does a lot of charity work. He 448 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 4: helps out kids with special needs. He you know, gives 449 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 4: money to you know, the nine to eleven victims. He's 450 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 4: done so much for that city and for him, you know, 451 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 4: not to get a big contract and stay there for 452 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 4: the rest of his career, I think that's pretty sad. 453 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 4: But at the same time, knowing Pete, I'm very excited 454 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 4: for him. He's got a new venture going on. It's 455 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 4: very hard to stay with one team your whole life nowadays, 456 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 4: especially the way it is. You know, he can't have 457 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 4: all you know, Kim all be Joey Vados of the world. 458 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 4: It's so hard to do, and for him to go there, 459 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 4: he can actually breathe a little bit and enjoy the 460 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 4: game of baseball and not worry about anything else. Happy 461 00:22:58,920 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 4: for him, man, good for him. 462 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: Do you feel like he was offended by the Mets, 463 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: not just this go round, but even last go round 464 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: where the Mets are like, me, we don't think you're 465 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: going to get much in the market. We have a 466 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: certain value on you. And so it ends up being 467 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: that essentially one year contract. It was the longer deal 468 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: with the opt out and he ops out, of course, 469 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: and then this time around they didn't make an offer, 470 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: and there's more to the story there. It's not like 471 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have brought him back, but they were only 472 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: bringing him back at a certain price. They clearly looked 473 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: at him and said, hey, at your age, your skill set, 474 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: your best skill set, by far, is your power. Nobody 475 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: is disputing that he's not the fastest dude in town. 476 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: There's disputes about his defensive value, but he's not an 477 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: elite defender. I think that's fair to say either. So 478 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: they're like, we don't see this working out well where 479 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: we're just relying on pop. And it's funny that Ryan 480 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: Ripkin brought up Chris Davis, who had that one tool 481 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: and eventually it didn't work out for him. There are 482 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: others like Kyle Schwarber, who's two years older than Pete, 483 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: who lives and dies off walks and pop right. He 484 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: doesn't even played defense, and it's working out pretty damn 485 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: well for him. I tend to think that eventually Pete 486 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: will transition off of first during the length of this 487 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: contract and still hold that value as a guy who 488 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: can hit forty homers. They don't have Mount Baltimore there anymore, 489 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: so it's a little bit easier right to be able 490 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: to tackle Baltimore. It's actually a better hitters park in 491 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: Baltimore than it is in New York. I think those 492 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: numbers can tick up anyway. Back to what I said, 493 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: do you think he's offended? I mean, he's the all 494 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: time home run leader for the Mets and they didn't 495 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: really want him back. 496 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I you know my opinion, only I think he was. 497 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 4: I think he was a little pissed off, and rightfully so. 498 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 4: Rightfully so you see all these guys getting these big contracts. 499 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 4: He deserved it just as much as anybody else did. 500 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 4: I mean, and people always go back to the defense. 501 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 4: I don't think he's even not you people go by 502 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 4: numbers and he can't get to this ball. But I 503 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 4: don't think he's that bad of a defender either. I 504 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 4: think he's worked his butt off. I think, if I'm 505 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 4: not mistaken, he was one of the best first basement 506 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 4: I'm picking balls out of the dirt the last couple 507 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 4: of years. The guy works his butt off at first base, 508 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 4: and this Baltimore oriol team should be a static because 509 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 4: he's gonna work his rear end off, he's gonna get 510 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 4: after it, and he's gonna absolutely mash balls to every 511 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 4: part of that park and he's not gonna care what 512 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 4: the Mets do. It's not that term now, it's not 513 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 4: oh yeah, I'm doing this because of the Mets. Now 514 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 4: he's over with, he got his deal, he got everything 515 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 4: he needs now and he can just chill out. You know, 516 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 4: New York is a tough place to play out and 517 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 4: he took it by storm and did excellent there. And 518 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 4: to not bring a guy like him back, there's something 519 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 4: else going on, and I you know, we might never 520 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 4: hear about it, but there's something else that why wouldn't 521 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 4: you sign this guy to a big deal last year. 522 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 4: I just I still don't understand it. So that's something 523 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 4: that they're gonna have to live with, and I don't honestly, 524 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 4: I don't think they care. I really don't think they 525 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 4: care that they don't have them. They've said it before. 526 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 4: If it doesn't work out like this, good riddance pretty much, 527 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: and I think that's a shame Todd for me. 528 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: The Mets were like, hey, this was a disaster result. 529 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: We did not make the playoffs. We need to switch 530 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: things up. My question is why these guys. You're best 531 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: reliever by far, who's been consistently reliable. You're consistently reliable 532 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: power hitter, and Nimo's a consistently reliable guy who gets 533 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: on base. And I know the defense isn't supreme, the 534 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: arm's not great, the range is fine. So for me, 535 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm just looking at these guys like, why them? Just 536 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: because they're hitting free agency? And I guess there was 537 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: a taker for Brandon Nimo. What are your thoughts on 538 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: the way that they're trying to change the complexion of 539 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: the team. I'm all for making some changes to the lineup. 540 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: It's why I'm critical of even a team like the 541 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: Phillies Todd Father. I just think when you have super 542 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: disappointing results in the playoffs back to back years, I 543 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: want to just see a little difference in the lineup. 544 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: And maybe I'm wrong there. I'm looking at this more 545 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: as a fan. You know all these guys personally, like, 546 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: were these the guys to switch it up with or 547 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: should they be looking in other directions in terms of 548 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: who they were going to let loose? 549 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 4: And I'm confused too. You you signed Wan Soto to 550 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 4: this monster deal. All in, We're all in, and now Nemo, 551 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 4: Edwin Diaz and I know the couple were free agents. 552 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 4: I get it, but that should have been your top 553 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 4: priority getting those guys back in my like you don't. 554 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 4: There's not that many guys out there that have the 555 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 4: ability of what Pee Alonso can do to a baseball game. 556 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 4: Edwin Diaz one of the best closers that we've seen 557 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 4: in our generation. He's filthy, so hard to hit. Yeah, 558 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 4: he's been through his bumps, but guess what, that guy's 559 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 4: been very very good. Brandon Neimo, the guy is solid. 560 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 4: He's solid as all can be. Those are three top 561 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 4: guys that any team would take in a heartbeat, and 562 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 4: just because you didn't make the playoffs, you had this 563 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 4: catastrop fall. Okay, catastrophic excuse me fall. Listen, it happens. 564 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 4: That's baseball, your professional baseball players. You're playing against professional 565 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 4: teams that are very good at what they do. Come on, man, 566 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 4: I just don't get it. That should have been your 567 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 4: top priority training. Brandon Nemo was weird. I didn't understand 568 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 4: that one at all. And I think Jeff McNeil's on 569 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 4: the is the next one that's gonna go. Love Jeff. 570 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 4: I mean he's he's closely. He's a three hundred hitter. 571 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 4: He led the league one year in UH batting average. 572 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 4: All right, now you're not all in. Now, what are 573 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 4: you gonna do? What is the next step for the Mets? 574 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 4: There's not that many out there? And guess what those 575 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 4: guys got to say, you know what, I'll come there, 576 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 4: But who would want to go there? And now, knowing 577 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 4: what they do, I don't know. 578 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's a good point, and I'm with you. 579 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: I think McNeil's gonna go at least for now, the 580 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: way that they're looking at first base. We'll throw this 581 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: out here from Tim Healy. He joined us on Yesterday Show. 582 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: You can check out Yesterday Show for more on Tim 583 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: Healey stucks because he covered this team for a long 584 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: time and then he just recently switched over to the 585 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: Red Sox peat. But he said the Mets always seemed 586 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: lukewarm at best about bringing back Pete this offseason. One 587 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: first base solution they floated internally a platoon of Jeff McNeil, 588 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 1: who can play everywhere, and free agent Paul Goldschmidt. Kratz, 589 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: Mets fans did not take kindly to that backup plan. 590 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: And Steve Cohen is already on the record, and I 591 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: give him credit. He always comes out there and says 592 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: something or tweets something, and he's like, off season is young, 593 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: my friends. I think they're going to do a lot. 594 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: I think the plan for them was, We're just going 595 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: to do a lot differently. We're still going to spend 596 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: a lot, it's just going to look different. So in 597 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: your mind, Kratz, what does that look like? I do 598 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: like that he came out right. Owner comes out and says, 599 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: we're not just shedding players and shedding salary, We're just 600 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: switching things up. So stay tuned for me. I think 601 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: that means they signed someone like a Tatsuya am I, 602 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,959 Speaker 1: a friend Rivaldez. Maybe they're going after Ranger Suarez, who 603 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: has pitched really well within the division. And then on 604 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: the offensive side, I mean they need an outfielder. Are 605 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: they in play for Cody Bellinger? Is that the right fit? 606 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: Could they be in play for Alex Bregman to handle 607 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: third base? I know that they like Beatty, but obviously 608 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: Alex Bregman is a better player and can make a 609 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: different type of impact internally with a team. Akamoto I 610 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: really like. I think he's going to be a really 611 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: good player in the big So help me fill in 612 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: the blanks here. Knowing that the team is clearly will 613 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: to spend. 614 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 3: I'm as confused as you are, as confused as Mets 615 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 3: fans are. And my thing is, I don't really care 616 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 3: how you replace Pete Alonzo because it's not gonna happen. 617 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 3: You can't replace forty home runs. You cannot replace somebody 618 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 3: that will give you forty home runs. Devin Williams in 619 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 3: his best year, hasn't had didn't have as many saves 620 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 3: as what Edwin Diaz had last year, so they can't 621 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 3: try to play catch up in that sense. But what 622 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 3: they can do is understand they still have Francisco Indoor. 623 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 3: I think Mark Ventos is an above average hitter, maybe 624 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 3: not at third base. Maybe a combination of Ventos at 625 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 3: first baby at third gives them a nice, youthful corner 626 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 3: infields that grow together, guys with a lot of potential. 627 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 3: But ultimately, I think the lineup, and I know this 628 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 3: might be crazy saying you lost Pete Alonzo, the lineup 629 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 3: might be fine. The lineup still might be fine. They're 630 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 3: gonna add another big I think they're still gonna add 631 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 3: another big bat. That's where I'm not worried about. If 632 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 3: they brought Diaz back, if they brought Pete Alonzo back, 633 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 3: it wouldn't matter. If they don't do something about the 634 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 3: starting pitching. The reason they're not in the playoffs, if 635 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 3: they're changing everything up, is because they weren't in the playoffs. 636 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 3: The reason that happened is because they did not get 637 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 3: starting pitching last year. Nolan McClain is not the answer. 638 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 3: I mean, he's gonna be a great Bigley pitcher. He 639 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 3: is not enough. He is not Oh saved all of 640 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 3: our issues. Those are pieces McClain, Peterson. I think seam 641 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 3: and Iya can give you can give you something. I 642 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 3: know it faded at the end, but you still have 643 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 3: him there. He had a good run in twenty four. 644 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 3: It has to start with starting pitching. I don't care 645 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 3: about replacing those other guys. It has to start with 646 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 3: starting pitching, and it has to be big, and it 647 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 3: has to be multiple starting pitchers. 648 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: What do you think about Wilson Contreras to fill in 649 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: for Pete Alnto. 650 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 2: I love it. 651 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: I said before the show Todd Father Decratz that it 652 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: was like at the tip of my tongue and the 653 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: only thing that held me back was something that's kind 654 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: of dumb. You know, Wilson Contreras can be explosive on 655 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: the field and kind of get into it with UMP's 656 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: teams whatever. I don't really care. I don't know why 657 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: I thought about that where it's like, oh, the Mets 658 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: need a new mix. Maybe Wilson Contreras brings fire. I mean, 659 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: he seems like a perfect fit. He had a really 660 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: good offensive year. Dude knows how to get on base, 661 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: He's got pop, and he learned first base really well. 662 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 1: He grated out as one of the better first basemen 663 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: defensively in his first year on the job. We spoke 664 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: to Ali Marmole about it, and he said he took 665 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: to the position so well. They had Alec Burlison as 666 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: a backup option, and they were like, we were worried 667 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: just in case it doesn't work out, and we got 668 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: it mostly dh Wilson. They didn't need to he took 669 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: to it. Well, you're shaking your head. He doesn't cost 670 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: a lot. I'm not saying this is the only solution. 671 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that is a much more attractive solution 672 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: to me than Paul Goldschmidt and Jeff McNeil handling a 673 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: platoon at first. Wilson Contreras is a legit bat. It's 674 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: not Pete Pop. But that's a guy who's going to 675 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: be a well above average offensive player and he should 676 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: be a better defender. 677 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you on that. I just think 678 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 4: New York is a different beast. I'm not saying he 679 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 4: couldn't handle it, but that one time he makes any 680 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 4: little mistake and they get on him in the news 681 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 4: or you know, the press after the game presses him 682 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 4: about a certain situation. I don't know. It's just not 683 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 4: for everybody. I'm not saying it wouldn't be a good fit. 684 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 4: But I just feel like, you know, seeing you know 685 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 4: he is, he's a fireball brother, and you don't know 686 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 4: what he's gonna do. I'm not saying he couldn't do good, 687 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 4: but he's not putting up the numbers like Peter Alonzo does. 688 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 4: So that's where it's hard for me to say yes 689 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 4: to that. But I also agree with what you're saying. 690 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 4: It would it would be a fixture for sure. 691 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be better than McNeil and Paul Goldschmidt. I 692 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 3: one hundred percent agree with that, and I love to 693 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 3: put this to rest from Orioles fans for Mets fans, 694 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 3: Oh Pete stinks at first base. First baseman's outs above 695 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 3: average defensive war is all dictated on your positioning the 696 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 3: Mets play and what's called a predominant shift for the 697 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 3: first basement, so he is going as far to his 698 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 3: right as possible and never takes a step to his right. 699 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 3: Guys in history who have the better defensive metrics at 700 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 3: first base are allowed to shift because all your outs 701 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 3: above average is just dictated on where you start and 702 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 3: where the ball is hit. If you never go one direction, 703 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 3: then you're never going to get points that direction, and 704 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 3: you're going to be dinged because there's not many outs 705 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 3: above average that you can get at first base. So 706 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 3: Pete is not an awful first baseman. He's average. Wilson 707 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 3: is athletic. And the only issue I have is I 708 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 3: don't think the Mets said, you know what, we're not 709 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 3: going to sign Pete because we can get Wilson Contreras. 710 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 3: I have an issue with the with the next step 711 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 3: to replace Pete. If they already had their answer out there, 712 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 3: you don't know that you're getting Wilson, or maybe they 713 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 3: did know they would be getting Wilson Contreres, but it 714 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 3: hasn't happened yet, so you can't say, ah, you know what, 715 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 3: we'll just find it. Well, we'll figure it out. Pete 716 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 3: had a one fifty ops plus and Wilson had a 717 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 3: one twenty seven. 718 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: That's totally fine. 719 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 3: You know, I think you need a plan when you're 720 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 3: talking about a player like Pete to replace in your lineup. 721 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if it 722 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: ends up being Contreras or Akamoto for first and both 723 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: of them should please the David Stearns concern of defense 724 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: and age. Whether you guys agree with it or not, 725 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: I'm just presenting what clearly is in the mind of 726 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: the decision maker in the front office. And then it 727 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: could still be a Bellinger, a bragman who knows, maybe 728 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 1: even a Kyle Tucker. They could sneak in and say, hey, 729 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,720 Speaker 1: you know what, we really like this guy. He fits 730 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: more of the mold of what David Sterns likes all 731 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: around player age fits what they're looking for. Let's just 732 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 1: have a billion and a half dollar outfield. 733 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, they got to want to go there too, 734 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 4: And I think the only one of the biggest factors 735 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 4: is money. If they're going to put the big money 736 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 4: on the table, yeah they'll they'll go there. But it's 737 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 4: if it's between a couple other teams with all the 738 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 4: craziness going on over there. I just don't I don't 739 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 4: see it in my opinion. 740 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 3: Starting pitching, that's it. I don't care if you get Bellinger. 741 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 3: Bellinger can play center field for him, fills that hole. 742 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 3: He can play first base, fills that hole. Starting pitching 743 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 3: does not matter. You need starting pitching or else, it's 744 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 3: a failed off season no matter who you get. Rid 745 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 3: of or who you bring in. 746 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: They're going to get starting pitching. That's the one part 747 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,439 Speaker 1: that I'm not worried about. You don't think they're going 748 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: to end up with one of the guys that they 749 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: can just buy on the free agent market. Starting pitching wise, 750 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: you don't think they're going to end up with one 751 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: of the four to five available. 752 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 3: Who's to say you had? 753 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 2: You have to prove it. 754 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 3: You can't just be like, oh, yeah, you know what 755 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 3: tiger stripes are always you know, he's definitely going to 756 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 3: go to a five year deal, a seven year deal 757 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 3: for a starting pitcher that's out there. He hasn't he 758 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 3: hasn't even come. 759 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 1: From You're right, You're right. I haven't thought of it, 760 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: even though I talk about it all the time. 761 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right. 762 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: Craft. How many years is he going to go? That's 763 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: the internal battle. How many years is he going to 764 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: go on a starter? And if not, you have to 765 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: trade for one, and then it's going to cost just 766 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: prospect capital. You know what's funny is they need to 767 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: do what Baltimore does. They I think they need to. 768 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: Everyone's going to get two starters they feel good about 769 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: in the rotation, but they do they do need to. Yeah, 770 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: it's just it's a team that has a lot of 771 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: work to do. The indication is be patient, but they're 772 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,439 Speaker 1: going to do a lot. So let's see, it's only 773 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: December eleventh. Some people don't realize the Winter meetings have 774 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: no deadline. The teams do not give a. 775 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 2: Crap I. 776 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,479 Speaker 1: Meet, what are you calling? 777 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 4: Just like in poker, I call the Mets. Call whatever 778 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 4: you're gonna do. Let's see what you got mm hmm. 779 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm with you. 780 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 2: They got plenty of time. 781 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 4: Gotta want to go there, got don't want to go there. 782 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 4: That's that's my biggest problem. You gotta want to go 783 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 4: to those places.