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And 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:42.280 right before we went on the air just moments ago, 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:44.800 this might be breaking news to many of you guys. 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:49.320 The Buffalo Bills tweeted out the following I will read 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:54.440 it in full. Per the physicians caring for Damar Hamlin 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:58.160 at the University of Cincinnati Medical Center, Damar has shown 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:03.520 remarkable improvement over the past twenty four hours. While still 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:07.120 critically ill, he has demonstrated that he appears to be 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:12.520 neurologically intact. His lungs continue to heal, and he is 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:16.360 making steady progress. We are grateful for the love and 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:21.200 support we have received. So I think for a lot 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:27.360 of people, the keywords there are neurologically intact, and as 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:29.160 is the case with a lot of parts of this 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:38.280 great news is also somewhat almost horrifying in that that 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:42.320 it is great news. Right, So you're neurologically intact. I'm 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:46.040 obviously not a doctor, and unlike lawyer, it's not even 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.680 something I pretend to be. But it sounds like what 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:54.320 they're saying is I think that means that their concerns 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:57.960 about brain damage have been alleviated to a degree. Again, 0:02:57.960 --> 0:02:59.720 I don't want to put out bad information. I'm just 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:05.040 selling my reaction. Neurologically intact, is that's what they mean? Also, 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:11.760 Ian Rappaport tweeted a few minutes ago, Deamar Hamlin opened 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:15.160 his eyes last night and his responsive. 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:18.359 Truly incredible. One thing that's. 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.600 Clear from speaking to those close to him, they are 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:23.840 endlessly appreciative of the medical care given to Hamlin on 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:25.280 the field immediately then over. 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:26.400 The last seventy two hours. 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:30.400 Rapaport then also tweeted tomorrow Hamlin has been gripping the 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.680 hands of those close to him, another very positive sign. 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:38.400 So this is all really excellent news. Like I think it. 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.560 Seems from reading what I've read from the people that 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:45.320 actually are medical experts, this is about as good of 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:49.480 news as you could possibly have gotten at this point 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:53.600 in the situation, given what a scary and devastating situation 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.640 this has been, so I want to spend a few 0:03:56.640 --> 0:04:00.920 minutes here talking about the great stuff and then talking 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:05.600 about where I think we all must do better. And 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:09.160 on the do better part, I have been wrestling with 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:14.640 how to talk about this for forty eight hours and 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:16.400 I'm still not sure how I'm going to do it, 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:22.080 so we'll all find out together. On the great part, 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:35.240 it is a testament to the professionalism, expertise, and ability 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:44.640 of the people, the medical professionals in that stadium. And 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.320 I do not think this is overstating it that they 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:53.000 saved this young man's life. And I had been hesitant 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:57.080 on television on Tuesday to use the phrase saved his 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:02.279 life because to me at the time, from what I 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:06.119 was reading, was still very on the board that DeMar 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:09.560 was going to lose his life. With this latest update, 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.800 I don't Again, I read everything we have and I 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.800 don't I'm not a medical expert, so I don't want 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.040 to act like, you know, he's totally out of the woods. 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:19.720 But it looks like everything is trending in the right 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:23.520 direction from everything I've read about sudden cardiac arrest. 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:25.920 Those first few. 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:33.360 Minutes are the tipping point of which direction this can go. 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.440 If you want to have any chance of a positive outcome, 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:40.520 those first few minutes are critical, and the people involved 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:47.359 it would appear executed it perfectly. And this is where 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:51.120 we now start to bleed into what we must do better. 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:59.880 So I want everyone to understand something. An NFL player 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:06.560 having his heart stop live on the field during the game. 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:11.760 There's a reason none of us had ever seen that 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:18.720 on television. It is because, as best as I understand 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:25.239 and call it, the last thirty years, forty years, fifty 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:33.400 years of NFL football, this specific medical emergency has never. 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.640 Happened on an NFL field. 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:44.039 Yet despite that, the folks who are charged were charged 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:49.360 with saving Damar's life, knew exactly what to do and 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:54.800 handled it. It would seem perfectly. Got to get the 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.279 face mask off. I think you need a screwdriver, You 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:02.719 need something to do that. Cpo are, where's the defib machine? 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:03.400 All of it? 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:09.720 Bang bang bang moments outdoors in a stadium on a 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.840 field having run again, these are the real life things, right, 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:19.320 They are running from where they were, They're out of breath, confusion. 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.880 I don't think anyone's head goes to his heart stopped. 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:28.440 You usually think he's unconscious because a brain diagnosed it 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:35.600 figured it out go seconds matter And clearly this is 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:39.480 something they have a protocol in place for, despite the 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.360 fact that it has literally never happened. 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:43.240 In an NFL game. 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.880 They had a protocol in place, and they followed it, 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:46.920 and it appears they. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:47.560 Saved his life. 0:07:48.440 --> 0:08:02.320 That is why the reaction of immediate villainization of seemingly 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:08.320 anyone or any entity one could vilify, to me reveals 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:10.360 a real. 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.720 What's the word issue is not the strong enough for 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.120 it is. 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:25.040 It was a real time example of a flaw that 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:30.120 I think far too many of us have, which is 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:39.720 the need for a bad guy, a villain, just because 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:44.079 we're looking for either a reason or a place to 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:53.080 put our anger and hurt. So within moment before DeMar 0:08:53.240 --> 0:09:03.199 Hamlet was in the ambulance, there was loud via Twitter, 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:08.719 which is my preferred social media anger at the NFL 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:16.200 for wanting to resume the game. Now, the NFL, and 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:18.679 I don't think the NFL's perfect, and I don't think 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:20.800 they always tell the truth, but in this one, I 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:24.160 believe them is adamant that was not what they were 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:28.440 trying to do resume the game. I also believe Joe Buck, 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.320 who's a great journalist, that he was told by someone 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:33.200 it's five minutes and then they're supposed to be back 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:37.080 on the field. I also think it's very there is 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.760 a clear how can both of these things be true? 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:41.840 How can the NFL be telling the truth? Andre Buck 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:46.640 be telling the truth? It's very simple that the written 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:51.200 down listed protocol is that for most injuries, once the 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:54.640 players off the field, the game immediately resumes. But if 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.880 there has been an elongated delay due to player injury, 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.560 you can give the teams five minutes to warm back up. 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.319 And so someone was asked what do we do here, 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:08.760 and somebody in a position of semi power it was like, well, 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:14.480 what's listed here is five minutes. But that was never happening, 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.880 because this wasn't unprecedent incident, and I think smart. 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:20.080 People knew that was never happened. 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:26.640 And yet they if you have a grudge against Roger Goodell, 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:30.480 or a grudge against the NFL, or a weird grudge 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:34.280 against football, even if you are invested in football, you 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:37.520 make your money in football, or love football, said, look, 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:42.559 another example of what sons of bitches. 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.680 These guys are, how little they care. 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:51.920 And that was irrational and it was misplaced anger. But 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.040 people needed a place to put their anger, and I 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.240 think they also a little bit needed a place to 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:58.480 put their guilt. 0:10:59.080 --> 0:10:59.960 More on the guilt of the more. 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:05.960 And then once the game was stopped or in the 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:11.280 process of being stopped, that the new villain popped up 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:13.760 and there's my colleague, skit. 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:20.959 And I listen. Do I think Skip's tweet was awkwardly worded? 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:21.480 Yes? 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.719 Do I think that those of us and I will 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:31.920 put myself in that same category, that are either intentionally 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:36.880 or just by nature somewhat polarizing, have to be extra 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:42.360 cautious about anything we say in true real life moments, 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:49.880 because we are almost by nature make people feel some 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:51.400 type of way about certain things. 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:52.839 Yeah. 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:57.200 And do I understand why for certain folks skips tweet, 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:02.360 at least initially, really struck them the wrong way? 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:04.319 I do. 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:10.000 Do I also think that any fair and accurate reading 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:16.240 of everything on his timeline leading up to that and 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:21.400 including that tweet the end of it made it very 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:23.440 clear that. 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:25.160 He was thinking. 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:31.000 What a lot of us were thinking while being concerned 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:41.760 desperately for this young man. Anyone acting like it didn't 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.920 cross their mind. What is the league gonna do here, 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:51.600 you can't play this game, but they've got a mess 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:55.200 on their hands. Now, anyone acting like that didn't cross 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:56.600 your mind, I'm gonna tell. 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:57.800 You, I don't believe you. 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:01.080 There might be say, listen, if you are a family member, 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:05.040 if you are maybe a former football player that views 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:08.520 it differently, I believe you. But for the majority of us, 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.320 that at least came in our minds. And the reason 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.920 I know it is because the very next day, yesterday, 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.400 that was the topic everywhere. Now you want to say 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.160 that wasn't the time of the place for it, fine, 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:18.520 I'm not. 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:20.560 I am not. 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:28.200 I understand that part of it. However, the immediate cry 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:40.199 that this was a near criminal act was once again simply, 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:47.680 in my opinion, folks looking for a villain when there 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:52.240 it was not one. So why do we do it? 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:54.720 Well? 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:57.200 One is inexplicable. 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:02.080 Tragedy is hard for the huge human brain to comprehend, 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.880 and we want to find It's the same reason why 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.600 it took less than twenty four hours or some folks 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:10.920 to try to kind of toe the line of. 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:15.400 Maybe to Higgins is a fault. Nobody was at fault. 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:20.120 Anyone that watched this knows nobody was at fault, but 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:26.520 we got to find someone because otherwise I don't think 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:29.480 we have the ability to process it. Religious folks do 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.440 to a degree, and we'll talk about that in a 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:37.960 moment as well. If great, if great, admiration for religious 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:42.520 folks and moments like this. But I said guilt earlier, 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:44.320 and I want to say that, I want to explain 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:53.680 my thoughts there. I think the reason with football, specifically, 0:14:54.360 --> 0:15:01.160 whenever something bad happens, we are so adamant that if 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:07.160 not for this boogeyman of the day acts, this wouldn't 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:12.320 have happened is because it's the way we all reconcile 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:20.800 the fact that the only real way to make this 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:24.200 sport safe is for it not to be played. But 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.840 we all love it, and a lot of us gamble 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.320 on it, and a lot of us make our money 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:33.360 off it, and we play fantasy and we get so 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:34.200 wrapped up. 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:36.880 But we can't be the bad guys. 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:38.400 We it. 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:39.720 No, no, no, no no. 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:45.240 When Tua Tongue of Ailoa has his head smashed against 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:50.640 the turf in Cincinnati, no no, no, no, no, that's that's 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:54.520 that that could have been prevented, Guys. That was the 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:59.640 dolphin's fault and Mike McDaniel's lying, and the league must 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.320 not go about its players because it's something that happened 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.440 a week before that not many of us took any. 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:06.840 Notice of, but now we do. 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.600 And when this young man suffers cardiac arrest after the 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:16.760 most regular football play you'll see all week, no no, no, no, 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.680 that either could have been prevented or the league didn't 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:22.840 do the right thing, or this media member that I 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.960 already hated is the worst guy in the world. As 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:29.400 opposed to this is the devil's bargain. We've all made 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:37.480 everybody violent, dangerous, scary sport that we love that is 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:42.680 the most popular in America, and the players and the 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:44.520 fans and the league. 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:45.600 Have all. 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:51.120 Agreed we will make it as safe as we can, 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:58.840 while acknowledging can't be totally safe. Yet, when when the 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:05.480 true scare, veray tragedy happens, some folks want to pretend 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:10.400 that there is their hands are totally clean, and I'm 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:12.240 here to tell you my hands. 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.000 Are about as dirty as it gets. 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:25.359 I literally make my living talking about these games, and 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:29.080 maybe that you know, some folks will say that that 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:35.080 is my complicity in all of this, I am letting 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:36.800 myself off the hook whatever. 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.720 What I won't be is a hypocrite. And what I 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:43.800 won't be is pretending. 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:53.439 That every time something awful happens, it could have been preventable, 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:55.919 or it prevented, or it could have been handled better 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:58.800 if only this boogeyman. 0:17:58.520 --> 0:17:59.640 X would have done his job. 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:04.600 I won't do that, and I wish instead there was 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:08.760 more of an immediate focus on the folks who did 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.480 their jobs, who it does appear, saved. 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:12.400 This young man's life. 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.439 And lastly, before we get to the actual show, this 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:16.680 went longer than I thought it would. 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:17.520 My apologies. 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.800 I said earlier I was envious in some ways of 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:27.639 the religious folks, and I said on TV that in 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:31.040 these times listen, I'm not a religious person. However, and 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:32.639 I said this on DV. I'll say it again. My 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:36.600 wife is a deeply religious person, and while we don't 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.480 go to church as much as she would like, she 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:46.000 has true, deep spiritual beliefs. There's an envious component of 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:50.240 when something like this happens. Those folks have a grounding 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:55.120 that I don't. But that's not actually what I wanted 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.160 to say about the religious community. I want to say 0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:00.440 something else here, and we talk almost no pots politics 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:02.959 on the show, and we've never talked religion on this show. 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:10.760 But bear with me for just a moment. There are 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:18.719 in some ways I feel like the religious communities have 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:23.760 at times, yeah not at times. A lot of times 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:24.400 got a. 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:29.840 Bad rat and zelots of any faith. 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:39.120 Are typically folks that I don't have quarter four and 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:47.360 I do a great deal of damage on a worldwide scale. Okay, However, 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:51.680 I spent sixty thirty seconds on TV this week's just 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:53.919 being honest saying, hey, I'm not a religious person. 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:56.679 This is what I said here, but brew my partner 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:58.040 on TV is, my wife is. 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:01.080 And I'm envious of you guys in that regard, in 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:07.160 moments like this, and the number of people who are 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:13.480 deeply religious who reached out to me with a welcoming 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:16.879 hand saying, hey man, it's available to you. 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:21.120 Hey, thank you for your words. 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:25.439 Also know this, that and the other, not trying to 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:29.840 convert me, not saying well you better get on board 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:33.719 or else you're gonna burn internal, none of none of 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:37.760 the extreme stuff that I think we paint with a 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:43.320 broad rush at times, just genuine kindness and just genuine 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:45.960 care that they were like, Hey, this is a guy 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:50.280 who said he's not it doesn't it isn't religious, sounds 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:50.919 like he might. 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:54.960 Want to be, and it's available. 0:20:55.560 --> 0:21:00.960 I thought that was a striking act of kindness and 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:02.000 I appreciate it. 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:03.160 Now. 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:05.080 I don't know I'm gonna take it that I'm gonna 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:06.480 take anyone up on it. 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:09.600 It is a conflicted part of my own brain, but. 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:15.200 I I do feel like in this moment. 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:18.240 There is ah. 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:23.080 When I when I'm saying we should give credit more often, 0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:27.240 I also want to give it to our. 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:30.399 Some of our folks in the religious. 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:35.560 Communities out there that I was struck by their kindness 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:41.359 and generosity of spirit. And I hope that made sense. 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:45.840 And I you know, one of the reasons I like 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:49.880 this show is it's a platform, Unlike you could never 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:52.560 do this for a half hour on TV, but we 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:53.920 could today and we could hear. 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:59.800 And I appreciate you guys. And as I always say, my. 0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:02.320 Thought with DeMar and if you're a prayerful type, please 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:06.960 pray for him. And it looks like there's good news 0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:13.160 on the horizon. And I hope this resonate with some folks. 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.520 We are going to take a brief break, maybe two 0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:20.800 minutes and then do a regular show because we're gonna 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:21.480 have some fun today. 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:23.560 What's Right? 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:28.119 All right? 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:29.760 Welcome back in What's Right with Nick? 0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:30.080 Right? 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:34.679 If you had Nick has a semi religious awakening on 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:37.640 your Bengo card for our second show of twenty twenty three, 0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:40.240 I mean, come collect your prize. But now we're gonna 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:43.280 do a regular show. Demonse was sitting there stoically. I 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:46.159 appreciate you sitting there off camera. Can I ask you 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:49.240 a quick question before we start the show? Do you 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:54.280 think you have learned more about like how my brain 0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:57.800 works in the year of doing this show with me, 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:04.080 then you had learned hour fourteen years together prior combined. 0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:10.919 That's a good question, maybe, But I feel like I 0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:11.960 pretty much so. 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:14.520 There's a I guess maybe you knew me better than 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:16.639 you know I'm giving you credit for. 0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:18.280 But I just wonder. 0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:23.160 There's always times because in this space you're my coworker, 0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:26.480 but obviously you're also my son, and I always do wonder, 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:29.560 like what would I because there have been times I 0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:33.359 have sounded like overly arrogant. You're probably used to that, 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:38.960 or really like reckless about certain things and sometimes incredibly vulnerable. 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:41.200 You see me almost cry or cry a couple times 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.400 on here, and every once in a while, I'm like, man. 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:46.320 I had a different relationship with my dad, not a 0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:48.600 bad one, but I was like I always think, I'm like, man, 0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:51.120 if I was sitting across from my dad, I'll tell 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:52.680 you a quick story before you get to the show, 0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:56.640 my dad might get mad at me. I'll I'll never forget. 0:23:57.119 --> 0:24:01.000 I was maybe fifteen sixteen years old. My dad was 0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:03.840 the fire my dad is His name is Louis Wright, 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:06.240 and he was the president of the firefighters union in 0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:07.960 Kanas City for the better part of thirty years and 0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:10.639 was fireman for forty years. And one time, when I 0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:13.520 was fifteen, sixteen years old, he brought me to I 0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:15.439 went to a bunch of his union meetings, but there 0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:18.840 was one in particular where it was really contentious and 0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:21.440 I don't remember exactly what it was about, but one 0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:24.639 of the union members was furious with my dad and 0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:28.600 some of the decisions he made and stood up and 0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:33.720 said something really really out of line, really out of 0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:37.679 line that I won't repeat because I don't want to 0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:38.240 misquote it. 0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:42.399 In a quarter century ago. They're twenty years ago. And 0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:45.720 my dad, oh, he might eve be mad at me. Sorry. 0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:49.960 Pop's statute of limitations were okay, my dad said to. 0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:54.120 Him, if you want to continue that conversation, I think 0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:55.520 you and I should step outside. 0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:58.040 It was like, holy shit, I think he just threatened 0:24:58.080 --> 0:24:58.640 to fight him. 0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:02.440 I'm like, man, I was like, that's a totally new 0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:04.480 version of Pops that. 0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:06.120 I was like, I think you just threatened to. 0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:08.880 Fight that guy, like and I And also, by the way, 0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:12.320 if I was fifteen, I mean my dad was in 0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:16.320 his early fifties. I also think I was like, Pops, 0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:20.040 I think you're gonna get washed. I think that guy's 0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:22.120 I think that guy's like a twenty eight year old 0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:25.520 fire mutter and you're like fifty two, Like, careful now, Dad, 0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:26.240 I don't know. 0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:27.960 All right, what do we? Uh what? 0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:31.680 Let's get into the show. Here's what missed the cut. 0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:34.720 Here's what didn't make the show. Caveon Thibodeau doesn't know 0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.600 who Jeff's Saturday is. Demon say you and I watched 0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:41.680 that play together. Caveon Thibodeaux was the one who sacked 0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:45.119 Jared Goff and then it looked like golfs oh the 0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:49.000 pa fake Well, no, when it got like messed up 0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:50.560 and Thibodeau was doing snowing. 0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:51.720 Oh yeah yeah. 0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:54.280 And then after the game, Thibodeau's like, my job's hit 0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:57.720 the quarterback because Jeff Saturday said it was totally classless, 0:25:57.840 --> 0:25:58.800 and Thibodau. 0:25:58.440 --> 0:25:59.520 Said, I don't know who that is. 0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:02.600 But also probably I don't think he knew that. 0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:06.280 He definitely didn't know that Goff was. 0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:07.280 It's tasteless. 0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:11.000 If he knew, it might be a little tasteless. Either way, 0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:13.840 it's really egregious if he knew. 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:16.000