1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: The Michael Barry Joe. President Trump is appealing the verdict 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: in the e Jen Carroll civil case. His attorney, Will 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: Sharf spoke to the media outside the courtroom about this 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: case and he completely dismantles that case. And what I 5 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: would like to do now is play for you his 6 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: critique of that case, because I'll bet most of you 7 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: haven't heard this before. 8 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: Oh my name is Will Sharf. I'm one of President 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: Trump's attorneys. Today we presented oral argument before the United 10 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit in one 11 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: of two cases brought against President Trump by Ejen Carroll. Now, 12 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: it's really important to remember that e. Gene Carroll's story, 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: at its heart is an utterly implausible he said, she 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: said story. There is no corroboration for anything she has 15 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: ever claimed about President Trump. There are no corroborating witnesses, 16 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: as President Trump alluded to. There is not confirmatory DNA, 17 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: No police report was filed at the time of this 18 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: alleged incident. She was unable to identify when this incident occurred. 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 2: Until quite recently. No surveillance evidence or witnesses have ever 20 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: been found or come forward confirming any aspect of Egen 21 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: Carroll's story. In light of that, in light of the 22 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: utter implausibility of the story that Egene Carroll was attempting 23 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: to sell to the jury in this case, her attorneys 24 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: introduced evidence that should have never seen the inside of 25 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 2: a courtroom, utterly insane efforts to introduce propensity witnesses Jessica 26 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: Leeds and Natasha Stoinoff, most notably in an unfair and 27 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: improper effort to buttress Egene Carroll's failed attempt to assault 28 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: President Trump. Jessica Leeds' story is instructive here. This is 29 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: a woman who claims, in the middle of a crowded 30 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: airliner in nineteen seventy nine, President Trump assaulted her. Leeds 31 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: has never been able to identify where this plane departed 32 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: from where it went to the date of the flight 33 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: in question, making our efforts to disprove her testimony extremely difficult. 34 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: Under the federal rules of evidence, this story should have 35 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: never been allowed to be presented to the jury in 36 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 2: this case. The same is true of Natasha Stoinoff's story, 37 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: which again lacks any indissi of reliability, any sort of credibility, 38 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: any sort of confirmatory testimony from other witnesses or anything 39 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: else that would make you believe that this actually happened. So, 40 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: on the one hand, you have a judge who allowed 41 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: in this improper propensity evidence that should not have been 42 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 2: allowed in in our view, that polluted the jury's deliberations 43 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: in this case, that presented a story to the jury 44 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: of a series of a pattern of conduct that the 45 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 2: jury should should not have been considering. And we think 46 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: that absent that propensity evidence, no fair jury could have 47 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: reached the verdict that was reached in this case. And 48 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: as a result, we believe that this verdict needs to 49 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: be overturned. But there's more than that. In addition to 50 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: this improper propensity evidence, President Trump and his trial team 51 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: were prevented from cross examining Egen Carroll and other witnesses 52 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: on crucial issues. Crucial issues in particular relating to political 53 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: coordination in the political motivation behind this entire lawsuit. This 54 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: is a lawsuit that was instigated in large part by 55 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: George Conway, a longtime political foe and adversary of President Trump. 56 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: This is a lawsuit that was funded by Reid Hoffman, 57 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: a key political ally of the Biden Harris administration and 58 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: a major Democrat donor. We were limited in the evidence 59 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: we were allowed to present at trial about these crucial facts. 60 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: We were prevented from cross examining E. Gen Carroll on 61 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: aspects of that dynamic that underlies this entire lawsuit, and 62 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: that two unfairly corrupted the jury's deliberations in this case 63 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: and requires reversal of the jury verdict. I think this 64 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: political coordination point is particularly important, though it's important to 65 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: emphasize because what we have seen in the last few 66 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: years is a weaponization by the Biden administration and by 67 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: their political allies of our legal system and of our 68 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: courts to unlawfully, unconstitutionally interfere with President Trump's core First 69 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: Amendment right to run for president. That is a right 70 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: guaranteed to him by the Constitution. That is the right 71 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: that his political opponents are attempting to strip away from him. 72 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 2: We have seen this in case after case after case, 73 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 2: where unfair political motives have underlay what should be excuse me, 74 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: serious legal proceedings. And I think when you look at 75 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: this situation in Tode, when you look at what the left, 76 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: when you look at what the Biden Harris administration is 77 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: attempting to do to President Trump. This is insane. This 78 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: is an absolute abuse of our legal system. It's an 79 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: absolute abuse of the rule of law. It should be 80 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: deeply offensive, not just to political supporters of President Trump, 81 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: but to each and every American. With respect to today's appeal, 82 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 2: we are hopeful that the Second Circuit understands what's at 83 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: stake here. We are hopeful that the Second Circuit understands 84 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: what occurred during this trial, which was an improper use 85 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: of evidence to buttress Egene Carroll's entirely meritless claims on 86 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: the one hand, and an improper exclusion of evidence that 87 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 2: would have informed the jury about the true motivation behind 88 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: this lawsuit and that we believe would have resulted in 89 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: a very different verdict. 90 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: There are several now debunked lies that Kamala Harris and 91 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: the Democrats continue to tell about Donald Trump. Well, the 92 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: folks at just the facts. I don't know the folks 93 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: at just the facts, but they have addressed nine of 94 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: the lies most commonly told about Donald Trump. And the 95 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: reason we're playing this is to give you, is to 96 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: give you some ammunition if you find yourself in a 97 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: situation where you want to defend President Trump and don't 98 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: have enough to offer. That being said, let me explain this. 99 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: If a known liberal that you're in the circle of 100 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: wants to battle you over whether Trump is an awful 101 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: person or not, get out of that situation. There is 102 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: nothing to be one from it. If they taunt you, 103 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: as they often do, and you get baited into this, 104 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: they will demoralize you because remember, they don't care about 105 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: the truth. If a person in twenty twenty four is 106 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: still defending Kamala Harris and attacking Donald Trump knowing that 107 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: your cat could be eaten by the Haitian that's been 108 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: dumped on your doorstep, they don't want the truth, and 109 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: there's no point in you trying to deliver the truth. 110 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: This is for people that are just not sure, that 111 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: are low information. They've been told something, and you're trying 112 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: to help them get over the hump and vote for Trump. 113 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: This again, credit to the folks that justifacts nine lies 114 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: the media has told you about Donald Trump. 115 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: The media has widely and repeatedly reported Trump's words out 116 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: of context in ways that disfigure what he actually said. Now, 117 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 3: it's difficult to tell whether these are honest mistakes or 118 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 3: deliberate lies, but they did this by cutting out words 119 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: that he's set in close proximity to one another, sometimes 120 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: within seconds. Here's nine prime examples. One the media widely 121 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: reported that Trump called immigrants animals. In reality, Trump used 122 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 3: the word animals to describe murderous illegal aliens like MS 123 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: thirteen gang members, not immigrants in general. Two the media 124 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 3: widely reported that Trump threatened a bloodbath if he loses 125 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: the election. In reality, Trump used the term bloodbath to 126 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 3: describe what four more years of Biden's policies would do 127 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 3: to the United States, particularly to the auto industry. Three 128 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 3: the media widely reported that Trump praised white supremacists as 129 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: very fine people. In reality, Trump called them very bad people, 130 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: stated that he condemned them, and said that the very 131 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: fine people were those who showed up to innocently protest. 132 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: Four the media widely reported that Trump said he would 133 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: use the FBI and DOJ to go after his political opponents. 134 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: In reality, Trump said that Biden sick the FBI and 135 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 3: DOJ on his political opponents, and this could happen in reverse, 136 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: but the people aren't going to stand for it. Five 137 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: the media widely reported that Trump told governors to dominate 138 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: protesters during the twenty twenty George Floyd ryots and for 139 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 3: good measure. CNN's Anderson Cooper took it another step further 140 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: by saying that Trump seems to think that dominating black 141 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 3: people dominating peaceful protesters is law and order. In reality, 142 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: Trump said that he is an ally of all peaceful 143 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 3: protesters and that governors have a duty to protect innocent 144 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 3: people from professional anarchists, violent mobs, arsonist looters. Six the 145 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: media widely reported that Trump encouraged the Capitol Hill riot 146 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: by urging his supporters to fight like hell. In reality, 147 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 3: Trump told his supporters to march over to the Capitol 148 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 3: Building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Seven 149 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 3: the media widely reported that Trump vowed to be a 150 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: dictator on day one. In fact, Trump said that he 151 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: is not going to be a dictator except for day 152 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: one to close the border and drill, drill, drill. The 153 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: interviewer replied that sounds to me like you're going back 154 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: to the policies when you were president, and Trump said 155 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 3: that's exactly right. Eight. The media widely reported that Trump 156 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 3: called for Russia to hack Hillary Clinton's emails. In reality, 157 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: Trump repeatedly stated that China, Russia, or an independent hacker 158 00:10:54,120 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: has probably already hacked Clinton's illegal email server, and if 159 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: they did, they should release the thirty three thousand emails 160 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: that Clinton destroyed after she received a subpoena for them. Nine. 161 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 3: The media widely reported that Trump told Republicans to vote 162 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 3: against the border security bill because he didn't want the 163 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: crisis fixed while Biden was president. In reality, the bill 164 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 3: was loaded with loopholes that permit and reward illegal immigration, 165 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: and Trump wrote that he opposes the bill because it 166 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 3: quote only gives shutdown authority after five thousand encounters a day, 167 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 3: when we already have the right to close the border now, 168 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: which must be done. 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