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Speaker 1: It's always kind of a special week when we get

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Speaker 1: an update update. Yes, so today we get it. Check

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Speaker 1: in with one of our iconic Second Date Update couples

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna hear that in just a second. But

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Speaker 1: first I gotta say thank you to Matthew who wrote

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Speaker 1: us on our Second Date Spotify page and it says,

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Speaker 1: here's why I got a Second Date Update hoodie. One

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Speaker 1: he's got bullet pie like it. One great conversation starter,

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Speaker 1: two look sick okay, no he does. And three it

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Speaker 1: goes to a cause. I mean, honestly, they're so cool

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Speaker 1: right now. And one proceeds, like we said, from every

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Speaker 1: sale go to help La wildfire relief efforts thanks to

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Speaker 1: Convoy of Hope. So again, if you want to buy

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Speaker 1: Second Date Update merch, the link is in our show notes.

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Speaker 1: Right let's get there right now. Okay, we're baked and

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Speaker 1: thank you. Enjoy your update update. It starts right now.

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Speaker 2: Second Date Update. Sometimes in the dating world, you realize

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Speaker 2: the ideal person that you have built up in your

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Speaker 2: mind isn't necessarily the ideal person for you in real life. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: rip that right out of Brook's wedding vows.

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Speaker 1: To her husband.

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Speaker 2: But that could be the case for our listener, Rob

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Speaker 2: Today's so rude. Well you said them, who says he

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Speaker 2: met a different type of woman than the one he

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Speaker 2: would normally go for. He described her in the email

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Speaker 2: as someone who doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, is one hundred

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Speaker 2: eight forty five pm.

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Speaker 1: Rob, discipline woman.

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Speaker 2: How did you let this party animal slip through your fingers?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I don't know. I just found it endearing.

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Speaker 3: I thought she was kind of wholesome and not really

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Speaker 1: But it's interesting because it could be wholesome, or it

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Speaker 1: could be that she's done all those things so much

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Speaker 1: that she can't do them anymore, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: On the party life? Okay, well what's her name?

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Speaker 3: Name's Maggie.

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Speaker 2: All right, how did you meet her?

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Speaker 3: We met online? But I just thought her pictures were

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Speaker 3: and she wasn't out at the club. It's kind of

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Speaker 3: pictures of her hanging out with her friends, and I

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Speaker 1: Was such a good photoshop you didn't notice. Can I ask,

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Speaker 1: are you any of the things she is like?

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Speaker 3: Dry?

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Speaker 1: You know, no smoking, vegan?

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Speaker 3: No, not at all.

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Speaker 2: It could be in opposite of track sort of situation

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Speaker 2: where you like mesh together over time and bacon.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it could be the reason she's not calling

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Speaker 1: him back.

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Speaker 2: Well, what'd you guys do when you guys went out?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's weird. We went on two dates back to

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Speaker 2: Well that makes sense because she has to be in

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Speaker 1: Wait, how did that work?

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Speaker 3: Well, so she doesn't like to drink, so we got

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Speaker 3: ramen and then we've got ice cream.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, took the vegan to ice cream.

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Speaker 3: Well I learned that they actually have vegan ice cream.

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Speaker 2: Oh cool, so you checked it.

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Speaker 3: To me.

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Speaker 2: But for her that's.

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Speaker 1: Great, like coconut milk ice cream.

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Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, and it actually tastes the pretty good.

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Speaker 1: She was probably impressed that you like put some effort

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Speaker 2: So how did date number one end?

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Speaker 3: So there was no kiss at the end, but it

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Speaker 3: was like a long hug and then she actually suggested

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, she suggests, no kidding, So what did

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Speaker 3: So the next day, I was like, you get to

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Speaker 3: pick where we want to go. So we went to

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Speaker 2: Cool, okay, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I'm not vegan, but one of my favorite places to

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Speaker 2: And my neighborhood is scary, Like I'm a foodie and

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Speaker 2: even someone going to a vegan restaurant it's kind of intimidated.

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Speaker 2: Well maybe it's like the ice cream shop where they

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Speaker 2: How was it?

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Speaker 3: I mean it was okay, I didn't mind it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, they How is the connection between you two?

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Speaker 3: I mean after that date, we definitely kissed.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, your first two dates sounds like they went great.

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Speaker 2: So what's happened since then?

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Speaker 3: Well, so then after the date, she starts texting me

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of love gifts and uh memes about love,

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Speaker 3: and she was really accentuating the love aspect of everything,

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Speaker 3: and uh, you know, it was a little bit much.

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Speaker 1: I don't get why he's on with us if it

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Speaker 3: You out calling you back, Yeah, well what happened was

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Speaker 3: she sent me a Spotify song. It's a song by

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Speaker 3: Starship called we Built This Thing Together. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you guys know that song.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this string together, Nothing's gonna stop us.

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Speaker 1: That's a good song.

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Speaker 2: Everyone knows.

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Speaker 1: She trying to like force a couple songs already more organically.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like what have we built? We were on

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Speaker 2: Like did you say that to her?

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Speaker 3: Well, I said, oh, that's a nice song. I'm not

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Speaker 3: big fan of it, and I totally changed things for her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you slammed her taste in music.

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Speaker 1: No, she was trying to convey something. It's like when

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Speaker 1: I used to make mixed CDs and like put in

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Speaker 1: secret songs for different dudes I like and be like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know that one hit. You basically turned her down

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Speaker 1: by not liking the good Honestly, maybe she needed.

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Speaker 2: Together, but you said that changed things between you two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I wasn't trying to put her down.

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Speaker 3: It's just a little confused by it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so what do you.

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Speaker 1: Want our help with do you want another date or

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I just want to see where she's at, and

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Speaker 3: I hope I didn't offend her, and I just want

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Speaker 1: I see, I'll see on it. Yeah. Maybe if she

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know how to tell her that politely.

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Speaker 3: If she is that kind of person, I don't necessarily

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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll let Brook tell her to cut that crap out.

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Speaker 2: We'll do the second date update right after this second

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Speaker 2: date update.

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Speaker 1: You're in the middle of a second date update update,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna find out how the couple is doing

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Speaker 1: right after you here Part two.

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Speaker 2: Man, we're back to the nineteen eighties again.

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Speaker 1: Is this the song?

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Speaker 2: The Decade of Love?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 2: Sixteen Candles, Dirty Dancing, Wow, Ghost, all the best love movies. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I can honestly say that we built this thing together.

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Speaker 2: Nothing lasts forever. I think that nothing was gonna stop us.

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Speaker 2: Now that's a song. Unless Maggie doesn't answer the phone,

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Speaker 2: then that would kind of stop us and we'd be screwed.

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Speaker 1: Are you all forgetting it's a song that she sent

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Speaker 1: to him.

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Speaker 2: This is the song from the nineteen eighties that kind

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Speaker 2: of soured the relationship after Rob went on back to

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Speaker 2: back dates with Maggie, both of which went great, but

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Speaker 2: this Spotify song ruined it because Rob said, I'm not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's pretty cheesy.

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Speaker 2: But Brooke had a good point. He was trying to say,

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Speaker 2: I don't really like this song. Maybe Maggie took it

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Speaker 2: as he doesn't like my love. He's rejecting our relationship.

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Speaker 1: That's how I would take it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, but that's not the case. So that's why

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Speaker 2: Rob has reached out to us, hoping we can re

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Speaker 2: spark this, get this going again, maybe do a little

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Speaker 2: ghost love scene situation. Right Rob, that's right, pottery class.

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Speaker 1: You no alcohol, very vegan, you know, be perfect shirtless though,

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Speaker 1: Are you wanting to apologize to her for your response?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the way you put it, I guess

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Speaker 3: I kind of see it like I was being a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we don't know for sure if she took

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Speaker 2: it that way. That's just Brook's opinion, and you know

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Speaker 1: So you had to throw a dig in there.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, we don't know. Yeah, let's let's find

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Speaker 2: right now here we go.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hi?

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Speaker 2: Is this Maggie?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: This is she?

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Speaker 3: Who is this?

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Speaker 2: We gotch Uh? Sorry? I mean I'm happy that you answered,

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Speaker 2: is what I meant to say. Because we're a radio show,

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Speaker 2: We're called Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning, and we've

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Speaker 3: You, okay or what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Why what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Because we're doing a segment here called a Second Date Update,

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Speaker 2: and it's where we try and help out our listeners

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Speaker 2: if they've kind of stalled out in their dating life

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Speaker 2: with somebody. We're trying to help somebody named Rob.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Rob, Okay, I see?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Rob said you had two great dates together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He actually told us that he felt really good

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Speaker 4: I felt really good about it too. I felt like

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Speaker 4: I was really really excited to keep things going with him.

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Speaker 1: It's so sweet.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Was there something that made that change? Because it does

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I'm the type of person who wants

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Speaker 4: a guy who's going to be my prince charming and

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Speaker 4: come in and ride in on the horse and professes

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Speaker 4: we ride off into the sunset together.

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Speaker 2: You like grand romantic gestures, that's what you like? Yes, exactly,

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Speaker 2: that's totally fair. It could be a lot, though, for

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Speaker 2: some guys to process that after just one weekend hanging out,

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Speaker 2: you know, and not a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of guys are romantic at all.

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Speaker 4: Well they should be, and I made that very clear

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Speaker 4: on my profile.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, it's on your profile.

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Speaker 1: What'd you say on your profile?

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Speaker 4: I want someone who's sweet. So if I want you

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Speaker 4: appreciate me, because that's my My love language is affirmation's

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Speaker 4: words of affirmation. So I love giving those out and

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Speaker 4: I want that back in return.

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Speaker 3: Got it?

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Speaker 4: Especially came down to where you know, I sent him

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Speaker 1: You know, does that be a lot for anyone.

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Speaker 2: So we did hear about that text and the being

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Speaker 1: It's already adjusting. I mean, she was already going out

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Speaker 2: But she said the problem was he didn't like one song.

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Speaker 1: No, she said the problem was he wasn't romantic Jack.

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Speaker 2: But the thing is, that's the conversation. You have to

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Speaker 2: and that's something that you should actually hold on to,

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Speaker 2: not that he didn't like a song that you texted

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Speaker 3: I can see.

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Speaker 4: I mean it was just my favorite song, and I

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Speaker 1: Yeah if you can hear it, and I think Jeff's played.

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Speaker 2: It's too easy for people to just ghost right now

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Speaker 1: Why did you drink this morning?

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Speaker 2: I don't need your love hate right now. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: That's why I need to tell you, Maggie. Rob is

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Speaker 2: Here it is. He is waiting to talk.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, Maggie, how you doing?

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Speaker 4: Hi?

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Speaker 3: Rob?

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Speaker 4: I'm good, How are you.

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Speaker 3: Good? You know, I just I wanted to apologize for

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I do appreciate that and I felt

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Speaker 2: Brook's been saying that same thing to her husband for

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Speaker 1: I think every woman has said it in any relationship

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Speaker 4: You could send me kind of a love song. What

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Speaker 3: It would be that song Maggie by Rod Stewart.

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Speaker 1: Wake Up. That's just her name, right, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Think that's after Maggie leaves him.

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Speaker 1: A one night stand.

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Speaker 2: Yea super romantic guys.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying, all right. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: What's amazing is he's not scared away right now. I

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Speaker 2: We'd like to offer to send you guys out one

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's do it. That'd be great.

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Speaker 2: It's true what they say, you can build this love together.

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Speaker 2: Some things do last forever. Nothing's gonna stop us now

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Speaker 1: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Months ago. We convinced him to give it another try,

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Speaker 2: and it sounds like they did. Because both Rob and

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I vote them most likely to be

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Speaker 2: Let's find out, Rob, were you able to step up

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Guy? Was? You know? After being on your show?

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Speaker 3: Like she pretty much told me she wanted me to

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Speaker 2: Whoa wait a flash mob?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? And then after that, I hired this horse drawn

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Speaker 2: Dude?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had. I had her favorite song playing on

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Speaker 2: Okay, but we asked you. Did you do anything romantic though?

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Speaker 3: Well, after I did all that, she didn't talk to

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Speaker 2: Wait.

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Speaker 4: Why Yeah, well he was trying way too hard and

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Speaker 4: I could tell he wasn't being himself.

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Speaker 1: And I don't want that.

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Speaker 2: You said, he wasn't trying hard enough when we had

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Speaker 1: Are you like Goldilocks and the Bears or something with

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Speaker 3: Sure, it's true, it's true.

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Speaker 4: But honestly, I really I learned something about myself and

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Speaker 1: Has he struck the right chord by this time?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 4: Yes, and so I I did ask, can you just

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Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah, I made her. I made her this photo

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Speaker 1: Too many.

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Speaker 3: I think it was really sweet. It just starting.

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Speaker 4: I liked it. It was genuine.

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Speaker 1: You guys are together then?

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Speaker 3: Still, yeah, I think so, I hope she likes it.

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Speaker 2: Here's trying not to come on too strong with his affirmation.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, you know, I'm trying, and I'm also not trying,

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, there you go. Look Jeffrey in the morning,