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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Norah Jones and today I'm playing along with

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Speaker 1: Brian Blade.

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Speaker 2: I'm just playing long with you.

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Speaker 3: I'm just playing in lone with you.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Norah Jones and with me as always Sarah Oda.

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Speaker 4: Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 1: Today on the show is drummer and songwriter and singer

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Speaker 1: and guitar player Brian Blade.

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Speaker 4: Our guest is a soulful ray of sunshine.

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Speaker 5: Yes he is.

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Speaker 1: He's someone we know well as I've toured with him

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Speaker 1: for many years. I've actually known him since I moved

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Speaker 1: to New York in nineteen ninety nine. He played on

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Speaker 1: my first few records, and then we didn't play for

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Speaker 1: a long time, and then the last few years we've

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Speaker 1: toured together a lot. So we feel very close to him.

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Speaker 1: We love him very very much. He happens to be.

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Speaker 5: One of the best drummers on the planet in the world. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And you know what I love about this episode is

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Speaker 4: he's played with everybody from Wayne Shorter to Joni Mitchell

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Speaker 4: yeah and check Rea. But in this episode we get

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Speaker 4: to hear him do his own stuff, singing, playing guitar,

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Speaker 4: and like, I feel like it's just the essence of

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Speaker 4: Brian it's so cool, it's so good.

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Speaker 1: He has a band called the Brian Blade Fellowship where

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Speaker 1: he does play drums and he composes music and that's

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Speaker 1: an amazing band. He also has a band called Mama Rosa,

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Speaker 1: which is what we're doing today. We're doing three songs

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Speaker 1: from that band where he plays guitar and sings, and

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Speaker 1: I'm going to start us off with a couple songs

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Speaker 1: that we do in our show. So he plays a

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Speaker 1: little bit of drums on the show, and later in

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Speaker 1: the show there.

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Speaker 5: Might be a little surprise that.

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Speaker 1: Was kind of a surprise to me. I might actually

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Speaker 1: play Brian Blade's drums under him.

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Speaker 6: So weird.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, there's a drum off, there's a drum off.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna win.

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Speaker 1: No, no, But this is this was such a special

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Speaker 1: episode to get inside like his songs for once. I

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Speaker 1: get to support him, you know, and play his songs

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Speaker 1: and so great.

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Speaker 4: And also because this is a podcast and you can't

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Speaker 4: see him, he has this smile that is just so powerful.

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Speaker 4: It's like, I don't want to sound cheesy, but it's

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Speaker 4: like you can't not smile back at him when he's there.

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Speaker 1: He's a beautiful soul, and we we worship him.

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Speaker 4: We love you Brian.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, please enjoy the show today with Brian Blade.

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Speaker 7: I told love the Soul every day, said.

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Speaker 8: Only fall, no blaves, love gold.

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Speaker 7: Mad so out of and a loud clad it feeds.

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Speaker 9: Did it come through? You were too fog after funny.

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Speaker 2: Jis stay.

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Speaker 7: Warm and all you never told me by the ward

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Speaker 7: every day was changed, but I remain.

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Speaker 10: With bad.

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Speaker 7: Shout call.

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Speaker 11: A kind of like the Wada come.

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Speaker 8: He would too fog t aftern fall.

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Speaker 2: A step.

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Speaker 1: Wo Yeah, man, thanks for doing that. That's one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite songs to play with you.

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Speaker 6: Well for me too.

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Speaker 12: One thing changes, well not everything changes, but in a

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Speaker 12: way it's like, okay, it's just us. It's kind of weird,

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Speaker 12: I know, to not like occupy.

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Speaker 6: In my mind like oh it's not what's missing, It's

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Speaker 6: like still what's here?

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Speaker 13: I know.

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Speaker 6: Also embrace that the space of it. It's cool.

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Speaker 5: It's I know it takes a minute to adjust maybe,

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Speaker 5: but I love it.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 5: I just love playing with you. So can we do

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Speaker 5: one more?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Can we do Nightingale?

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Speaker 6: Sure?

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Speaker 5: So this one?

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Speaker 1: This song is for my first record, and you're on

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Speaker 1: that recording. Yeah, it's not the first song we did together. No,

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Speaker 1: because I remember the first time I played.

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Speaker 2: With you was you.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't remember it, but I remember it because I

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Speaker 1: was a fan of yours already. It was with Sam Yell.

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Speaker 1: I came and sat in it small and I sang

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Speaker 1: the nearness of you, and I was so nervous.

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Speaker 6: All right, Well, I do remember that. I wish I could.

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Speaker 6: I wish I could see that footage.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, me too. I was wearing the weirdest

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Speaker 1: I know that because you can remember Yokin, rocker, drummer,

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Speaker 1: good friend of mine.

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Speaker 5: He was like, yeah, you, what are you wearing?

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Speaker 6: No, I do remember that, oh man.

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Speaker 5: But this is one of the first songs we recorded

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Speaker 5: together in the studio.

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Speaker 7: Not in Gay.

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Speaker 2: Sing As a song.

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Speaker 14: I'm alone out the world once bloon, not okay, tell.

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Speaker 7: Me your thing was your journey? From too long?

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Speaker 5: Does it seem like I'm looking for fooling answer.

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Speaker 2: To a question?

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Speaker 3: Nackas I don't know it's way the falls.

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Speaker 5: If I should ploy to the left, noting gay.

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Speaker 2: Sing Us a song.

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Speaker 7: Of love that word, not in.

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Speaker 14: Tell me your Tame's your journey? For all the voices

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Speaker 14: that I spent in trying to tell me what you say.

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Speaker 14: It's get off behind God, miss you can take way

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Speaker 14: way o the Lord she's that ask me me try

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Speaker 14: to tell the to side.

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Speaker 5: Just get a flying.

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Speaker 7: Behind.

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Speaker 2: You can take me wait, you can take me with.

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Speaker 5: I got so nervous the middle. I think, well, it's

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Speaker 5: funny because.

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Speaker 1: We play together for long enough now where I just

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Speaker 1: feel connected when we're playing, and I know wherever it goes,

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Speaker 1: you're going there, you.

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Speaker 6: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Well, and it's and it's it's what's so fun about

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Speaker 1: playing music with you is that you're always reacting to

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Speaker 1: what's happening. There's no set path and that's where you

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Speaker 1: come from, right, And I feel like I've learned to

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Speaker 1: do that better by playing with you.

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Speaker 6: Wow, which is so fun.

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Speaker 5: It's so fun to be so free like that.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, somehow I feel like we I mean, obviously you're

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Speaker 12: you're given, You're rendering the song with with everything every time, so.

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Speaker 6: To also feel like there is that room for the

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Speaker 6: unknown to still.

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Speaker 12: Come and do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even though there's a song that's been sung many times,

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Speaker 1: it's different every time.

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Speaker 13: I know.

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Speaker 5: But that's the best part.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's why I got nervous in the

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Speaker 1: middle there when I was playing a little instrumental because

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Speaker 1: I don't really have a lot of chops really, you know,

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Speaker 1: as you know, but I was thinking about you and

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Speaker 1: who you've played with, you know, playing with Wayne Shorter, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: You know, doing the trio Korea.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, well, I mean it flies, it just flies, right,

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Speaker 5: And that's why I got nervous.

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Speaker 12: Don't get me started every time. I mean, it's like

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Speaker 12: walking out on the wire every time. And I mean,

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Speaker 12: and that's that's the beautiful excitement and wonder of it too.

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Speaker 12: It's like, okay, you know, you think, oh, they have

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Speaker 5: Yet Yeah, I think I can do this. Oh I'm

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Speaker 2: I better do it.

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Speaker 6: Walk walk steady.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing it.

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Speaker 6: Wait, I'm doing it exactly.

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Speaker 5: Then all of a sudden, you're fine.

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Speaker 6: Well that's the liberty.

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Speaker 12: But the trust element, yes, you know, the trusting each

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, like I might have fallen off the wire,

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Speaker 6: but hey, she's got me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well you've got me most of the time.

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Speaker 1: But I was just thinking about that feeling play with

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Speaker 1: Wayne or Chick or you know, so many people that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it must be like a real high. It is,

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Speaker 5: especially with people like that.

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Speaker 6: I mean beyond high because it's that funny. I mean funny,

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Speaker 6: it's it's like deeper than a blessing.

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Speaker 12: Doesn't quite describe it, because these are the heroes for

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Speaker 12: me that you know, you buy a record when you're

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Speaker 12: you know, it's like, oh, this is the language, this

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Speaker 6: Really, I can't even describe how that how that feels, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, it's like a spiritual thing.

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Speaker 6: Really is beyond nothing I could orchestrate. Certainly, you know,

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Speaker 6: certainly so.

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Speaker 1: Well, I feel honored to play with you because me

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Speaker 1: too of that same feeling that I get, you know.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it must have been a trip with the

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Speaker 1: first time. Were you able to get out of your

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Speaker 1: head the first time you play with Wayne Wayne Shorter?

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Speaker 2: It took a while, Okay, I mean.

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Speaker 12: I mean because there's all you know, I'm still I

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Speaker 12: was relatively young twenty years ago and more now.

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Speaker 6: And uh, you know, we're you know, he's letting me

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Speaker 6: in on it. And I know kind of what I've heard,

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Speaker 6: I you know, like all of his music and and

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Speaker 12: Okay, so how do I not sit at the drum

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Speaker 12: set and not think about all of that which he

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Speaker 12: is conceived and heard himself. So once I knew what

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Speaker 12: Wayne was after that, he was you know, like wanting

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Speaker 12: what it was that that I might say, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 12: or bring to the table. And so it took a

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Speaker 12: while to let go, Like what is he thinking?

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Speaker 6: What is it? We're on the track? Oh, we we off?

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Speaker 1: You know, like well he's got an intense vibe, yes exactly, you.

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Speaker 12: Know, like in silence, in silence, but he even in

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Speaker 12: that he's like giving and feeding the thing that propels

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Speaker 12: us to that higher place.

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Speaker 6: I mean it shocks me, like his.

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Speaker 5: Waiting and waiting is the hardest part.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it truly is.

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Speaker 12: Like so when he comes in, yeah, it's it's that

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Speaker 12: like not to say it, you know, like as some

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Speaker 12: flipping away, but the genius of his him as a

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Speaker 12: composer as a person, as a man to choose.

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Speaker 6: It and know that, Okay, now we're on the mountain. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and uh so he puts puts it over, you know,

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Speaker 6: and so yeah, every time.

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Speaker 1: I remember when we recorded with him in Brooklyn with

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Speaker 1: John Patatucci on bass, we were doing that horror silver

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Speaker 1: tune piece. Yeah, I was so nervous but also tried

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Speaker 1: to just be myself, you know, but I just didn't know.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm singing, We're playing the intro, and then

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Speaker 5: It's still pure totally. Yeah, that's the key, that's the balance.

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Speaker 6: And not not be in my head. Ye like to

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Speaker 5: That's the That's how it should be totally. And people

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Speaker 16: Yeah, believe me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel that too.

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Speaker 6: Trust my own feelings.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's almost like you can't trust yourself exactly.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I lean, you know, it's like leaning towards you

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Speaker 6: It's another Wayne reference movie reference.

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Speaker 12: He always it's Christopher Reeves and Margot Kidder like she's

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Speaker 6: It's like I got you, you know, and she's.

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Speaker 5: Like, who's got you?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's like, yeah, that's incredible.

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Speaker 12: But it's it's beautiful because didn't they talk about spirit?

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Speaker 12: You know? And then then you're realizing it's like, okay, wow,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's yeah, it has to be a conversation

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Speaker 1: in exchange. Well, you're so fun to play with. I

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Speaker 1: it nicely if we tried to play one of your

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Speaker 5: Does that sound good?

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Speaker 6: Do you want to just start right on the verse

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Speaker 5: The intro if you want. I kind of have the

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Speaker 6: But all that's cool? Nice? Yeah, I love that. No,

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Speaker 6: that's great. Sons or too.

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Speaker 7: Mm hmmmmm.

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Speaker 17: Mama Rose is gonna keep us warm until you come

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Speaker 10: Mmmmm until after the revival.

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Speaker 7: Day at it.

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Speaker 18: Don't leave too long. I'm going to need you here

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Speaker 5: You first born.

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Speaker 19: Something is on his way day, pray the Lord, keep

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Speaker 19: another day. Red water became red wine, part of this

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Speaker 10: Wait your arrival, see the faithful falling down money, running

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Speaker 6: The time.

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Speaker 10: We need to revive.

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Speaker 16: Your first one.

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Speaker 19: Sun is on his way, fail along, keep another day. Yeah,

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Speaker 19: sleeve my dog through the night. I'm going to watch

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Speaker 2: Night a news sunrising.

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Speaker 16: Announces birth all.

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Speaker 10: Day to day. She four times case.

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Speaker 10: All gospel radio, the joy we shall walk in. Mama

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Speaker 16: Bye bye.

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Speaker 20: M hm, sorry act, do you do your homework? I don't,

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Speaker 6: And and I was going off.

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Speaker 5: I was trying to follow you.

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Speaker 6: Oh it's awesome.

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Speaker 5: I love the song for.

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Speaker 6: You, man.

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Speaker 5: I love hearing you sing and playing guitar.

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Speaker 6: Oh you man, you're like putting all the diamonds on.

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Speaker 10: It was so beautiful.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's it was so fun listening to this and learning

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Speaker 5: Hard to pick.

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Speaker 16: The hardcore, Well, that's funny.

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Speaker 6: What would Levan say about he was talking a garth.

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Speaker 12: He's like it was easy when you know how, but

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Speaker 12: Like I'm really just going towards like the letting the

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well that's what songwriting is kind of well for right.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like the same approach we were just

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Speaker 1: No, okay, because you have some of those joney chords

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Speaker 5: Oh for chords, for sure.

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Speaker 12: I mean, wow, her sense of harmony and how she

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Speaker 1: How to drive when I was really I was wondering, Yeah,

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Speaker 12: Yeah, A dear friend of mine named Roger Barnes, great

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Speaker 6: Yeah, when I started driving.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you got to play with her so much, did you?

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Speaker 5: How did that happen? Was that through Daniel Anne Wall

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Well he was living in New Orleans. I had

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and did you study music in college?

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Speaker 6: Sort of.

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Speaker 6: But I was like, oh, I.

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Speaker 12: Well, it was a lot of different, but it was

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Speaker 12: her and he had played her some things that we

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00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 12: had been recording, and she shared some things that she

453
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 12: had been recording with him.

454
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 6: I wasn't there, but she liked what she heard what

455
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 6: he had shared.

456
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 12: And I got back to my room in New Orleans

457
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 12: or wherever, I forget where I was, Columns Hotel or

458
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 12: somewhere like that, and the phone rings and I pick

459
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 12: up and it's her. Wow, And we started talking on

460
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 12: the phone for a year or so before before you

461
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 12: played together.

462
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

463
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 5: Wow, I didn't realize that.

464
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a deep you know again, how do you.

465
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 12: You know?

466
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 5: That is pretty deep?

467
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 17: It is.

468
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

469
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 12: And then then for her to trust and be like, okay,

470
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 12: well I want to start working on a record.

471
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 6: And so flew me out there and you know, met

472
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 6: me at the carousel and I'm really I'm reeling, you know,

473
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 6: she picked up.

474
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know.

475
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 6: It was so and then we you know, just started

476
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 6: this whole dance and it's still.

477
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: Going really and you you had already become such good

478
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: friends in a way, yeah, but yeah, you hadn't met her.

479
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 6: Talking, no, no, not face to face.

480
00:36:54,600 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: So it was great to such a backwards way then normal, right, yeah.

481
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 5: Exactly, and so cool.

482
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 12: Yeah, and you know, to feel I mean, obviously there

483
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 12: was a great debt of gratitude that I felt, you know,

484
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 12: just to I wanted to give to her, but then

485
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 12: for her to just still give more to me, just

486
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 12: by including.

487
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 6: Me and her.

488
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 5: The mutual respects.

489
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 6: Man, it's amazing.

490
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 5: And what was the record you guys made that first time.

491
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 6: Taming the Tiger?

492
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 13: I loved that, right, it's so great that every song

493
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 13: you know, it's it's it's so many stories she tells

494
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 13: so good and so detailed, and again this pictorial thought

495
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 13: and every color and every corner and has.

496
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 12: A description, you know, like with such clarity. And she

497
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 12: was on a whole nother schedule, like work, you know,

498
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 12: late at night into them, and I was I was fading,

499
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 12: you know, I.

500
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 6: Just got into Los Angeles, so I think I.

501
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 12: Was at the drums practically, like I mean, I was excited,

502
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 12: but you know, towards the end and she's.

503
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 6: Like, that was it, and I was like what, you

504
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 6: know what you.

505
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 12: So it was so great that you know, she just

506
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 12: kept it rolling and kept you know, giving me the

507
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 12: opportunity to do it. And and sure enough, talk about

508
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 12: not being able to trust your feelings sometimes I was like,

509
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 12: oh man, am I bringing the thing?

510
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, and you were tired.

511
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 6: It was in her hands. So that was like, I

512
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 6: have absolute trust in that.

513
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: And and Wayne is on that record exactly. Yeah, and

514
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: she's she had already known Wayne. Yes, So is that

515
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: how you met Wayne?

516
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 13: You know?

517
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 6: I feel like there's a yes in there, but but

518
00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 6: not directly.

519
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think Wayne, I'm not really sure how he

520
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 12: came to reach out to me, but again, that was

521
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 12: a call that that really surprised me.

522
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: And yeah, he does that thing on that record that

523
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: we were talking about too, where he just I used

524
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: to it was such a door in high school. In

525
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: college is when I was obsessed with that record and

526
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: I was like.

527
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 5: It's like he's weaving threads of gold through every song.

528
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 5: But it really is.

529
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: Yes, it's so intense and beautiful the way he plays

530
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 1: on that record exactly.

531
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yes, you know, I don't know, it's funny

532
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 6: with you. I mean, you do it all the time.

533
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 12: You know, you're sharing this thing, but you know, and

534
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 12: then you have this great uh, you know, the love

535
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 12: and admiration for each other, so that fuels all of

536
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 12: the you know, the fire you know of it.

537
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 6: You know, even more so.

538
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, and it's for me.

539
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: It's the worst feeling in the world when I'm playing

540
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 1: music and I don't feel that, and and I can't

541
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: fake it, and I'm just like, yeah, gosh, how do

542
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 1: I get it? I used to hear this story about

543
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: Ray Charles where it didn't matter how he was feeling,

544
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: he would always get there at some point if he

545
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: was having an off night, you know, and yelling at

546
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: his band members or whatever it was, but he would

547
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: always get there. And I remember hearing that at one

548
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: point when I was younger and thinking, oh, okay, so

549
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: that's what I want to do. Always get there, you know,

550
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: like it took a minute for me to realize what

551
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: that thing was, Like, Oh that was a good gig.

552
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 5: I think, No, did I get there?

553
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 6: It's like, well, sometimes you know, like to not it's

554
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 6: hard not to feel.

555
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 12: That because you want the circle to be unbroken, as

556
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 12: might say, you know, like with with the you know

557
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 12: you're sharing, but they're sharing that thing too.

558
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't.

559
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: You want to be able to receive it and not

560
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: just be the person at the party who talks someone's.

561
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 5: Ear off.

562
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 6: Right and how the response might manifest.

563
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 12: You know, it might not be, it might not be

564
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 12: as enthusiastic as as you as you think, but you

565
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 12: kind of trust that, you know, the seeds the good are.

566
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 6: You know, it was put in good soil. And you know,

567
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 6: even if I walk away from this moment and go.

568
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 12: On, something's growing there. You know, something was placed in

569
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 12: the heart. Yeah, and so I just I hope that

570
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 12: every time we play that that's what's up.

571
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good way to come into it.

572
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

573
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: It's funny because we've been playing so many trio shows

574
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: and I've it's just it's completely opened up the way

575
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: I play the piano the last four years that we've

576
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: been doing the trio shows and I play I'm like

577
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: really busy on the piano. But it kind of works

578
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: with those because there's no other chortal instrument, you know.

579
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: And then now we're starting to introduce like a guitar

580
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: player in and I'm like, oh, crap, I gotta start

581
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: listening to it again, you know, like I got so

582
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: used to.

583
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 6: Just sort of one thing changed. Well, you know, I

584
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 6: never it's funny, I know what you mean.

585
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 5: Like it's trio, so there's that space, there's so much space.

586
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 6: But I never like you being busy. I don't know

587
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 6: that that.

588
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: Well, me being busy is different from some other people

589
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: being busy. But yeah, but I mean compared to how

590
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: I used to play. I used to tour with two

591
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: guitar players, oh wrestle, and it was awesome.

592
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 5: I mean, the songs had all these beautiful guitar parts.

593
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 5: It made sense. But I would just do my little

594
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 5: you know, you know.

595
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: My little tinkley like octaves, and that was it. And

596
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: now I'm trying to cover all, you know, all the

597
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: other parts art. And then during the pandemic, I would

598
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: do these live streams every week, so I started playing

599
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 1: you know, more bass and more. I just I finally

600
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: realized that the piano is this like whole orchestral instrument,

601
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: and I hadn't been necessarily.

602
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 5: Using it all.

603
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 12: You know, Well, you could have fooled me because recently,

604
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 12: don't you mean, Well, that's the good good thing about

605
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 12: like you're feeling, you know, like the barreness of or

606
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 12: the exposed trio like real estate.

607
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's vulnerable. It's a little bit vulnerable

608
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 5: then and leaving.

609
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 6: It bear too.

610
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 12: And then because your voice speaks all this volume, you know,

611
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 12: like empower in and of itself, so anything else is

612
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 12: just it's just extra well I mean really, I mean

613
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 12: I gotta say, I don't know that's that's the beauty

614
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 12: of your gift.

615
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 5: Is you too?

616
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: I mean you leave a lot of space, but you're technically,

617
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: you know, one of the best drummers I've ever seen.

618
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: You know, also technically, but I know that's not what

619
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: it's about.

620
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 5: But you happen to be and you happen to have

621
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 5: all that technique. So I want to know.

622
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: I mean, was there a period of time where you

623
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: just practiced a lot in high school?

624
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 6: Oh? Absolutely?

625
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

626
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, college, especially college.

627
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 5: You'd like lock yourself in a room and you play

628
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 5: along to records.

629
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 6: Kind of yeah, Like I wanted to know, like, you know,

630
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 6: when listening to Elvin or or Blakey or.

631
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 12: Paul Motion, like what what I loved it? And what

632
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 12: made it so great? Like how these sounds and rhythmic conception?

633
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 6: How did you know? How did they get there?

634
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 12: And you know, so yeah, I was trying to you know,

635
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 12: really lean in on executing things in that like as

636
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 12: they would hopefully you know, take it off the record

637
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 12: if I could best I.

638
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: Could, And sonically, were you trying to make things sound

639
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: like that, like trying to find your way to get

640
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: the similar sounds. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, it's such a like

641
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: primal like it moves you.

642
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 12: You really yeah yeah, yeah, to try and become one,

643
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 12: you know, just about the metal and wood and yeah,

644
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 12: you know, all four limbs doing what like to make

645
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 12: it a oneness like like it's it is a trip.

646
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 12: But you know, my brother Brady Junior, he's five years

647
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 12: older and that great drummer. You know, he helped me

648
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 12: so much when I was coming up as we started

649
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 12: playing in church and him sort of informing me about,

650
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 12: you know, how to listen to or rather stay.

651
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 6: On the tracks rhythmically speaking, to stay on the beach.

652
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 12: Yeah, well yeah, just sort of yeah, this almost he

653
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 12: instilled this like immovable sensibility in me, like in terms

654
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 12: of rhythm, even if you're not playing uh, every every downbeat,

655
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 12: in every every you know, dit and dash, the rhythm

656
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 12: is still moving on.

657
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 6: The train, yes, you know. Yeah, so let you know,

658
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 6: it's okay, you don't.

659
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 5: Have to play it every bad exactly. He taught you that.

660
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 12: I mean, you know, I'm speaking this right now for

661
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 12: the first time, Like you know, obviously you know there's

662
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 12: a time to stay, like to be literal about it

663
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 12: and to lean in on it. But then in my

664
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 12: own growth, personal growth, I think it's come to me

665
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 12: that Okay, I can, I can look away from the

666
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 12: from the molecule, but the molecule is still there.

667
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly, you know, And that's how you're so open.

668
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 12: And I hope so, you know, and hopefully that served

669
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 12: the song because if if I'm not doing that, then

670
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 12: I'm not doing anything.

671
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: Okay that brings me to something that is unique about you.

672
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 1: You're always listening to the lyrics.

673
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 5: Trying to Yeah, I know, but not everybody does. I

674
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 5: mean all the great musicians do you really do?

675
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 6: Though?

676
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 5: It's important to me, and of course it should be.

677
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 6: Well, even more so because I've seen it.

678
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 12: I've been in situations where I noticed others weren't yeah,

679
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 12: and then and then I heard the things that didn't.

680
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 12: They didn't give uh the underpinning or the or the

681
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 12: conversation was was was not.

682
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 5: It wasn't a conversation.

683
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 6: It wasn't an act.

684
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: That's the only way it can be a conversation, is

685
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: like if you're actually listening, actually, there you go, and.

686
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 12: It can hurt, you know, like I literally feel like,

687
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 12: oh no, this is not not not not really taking

688
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 12: us higher. So I want to be careful about that

689
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 12: that part of it and knowing that.

690
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 6: That's the thing about church. These singers they're so great,

691
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 6: but they they're you know, these folks, they're not they're

692
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 6: not trained musicians and trying to be you know, they're

693
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 6: they're there to praise the Lord.

694
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 5: So they have a message truly, and then they yield

695
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 5: to that.

696
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 12: And and so as the drummer, if they don't go

697
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 12: to the fore chord when when you think it's supposed to,

698
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 12: you don't like try and push them there, like you

699
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 12: wait and and it and what's going to come out

700
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 12: is going to be the true spirit of the thing

701
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 12: and the best thing because because they're they're being led

702
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 12: by something you know, much much deeper than your your beats.

703
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: That's that's pretty profound way of learning that lesson exactly.

704
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 5: You know, that's makes a lot of sense.

705
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think how to be open, Like that's funny

706
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: that to me, I would think that being that way

707
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: comes from playing jazz, But actually it sounds like it

708
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: started in church.

709
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 12: Totally did Yeah, totally didn't. And every other opportunity you

710
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 12: know that I had. You know, it was all informed

711
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 12: by that foundation, you know, and and uh you know,

712
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 12: you know maybe you know I learned some other things. Yeah,

713
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 12: but it's still kind of that essential the core totally.

714
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 12: I mean it's like we're sitting in this room, but

715
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 12: you know, like the way Levan plays and sings, Wow,

716
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 12: I mean that kind of to me, it's like, wow,

717
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 12: you know, it doesn't get any better.

718
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 6: It's like, man, he's like all there and yeah, you know.

719
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 1: He's i mean he's preaching, he's he's putting it all in. Yeah,

720
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: he's all on the table.

721
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 5: It's like I can't start with the stupid metaphorse no.

722
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know in spirit, yeah, I feel like

723
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 6: I were two hats.

724
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 12: It's like writing music for the Fellowship band is one thing,

725
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 12: and then I have to figure out, Okay, what's the

726
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 12: drummer gonna do?

727
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 5: That must be hard to be the drummer in your band.

728
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 12: Well it's great because I'm truly just a part of

729
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 12: this thing. Like I have to then come up with

730
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 12: the drumming aspect of the band, Like what's my role?

731
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 5: But you've written all the music?

732
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 6: Well yeah, but still, who's this guy Wo wrote the music.

733
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 12: You know, it's like, well, if John brings us something,

734
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 12: obviously I'm already I'm so in it. And you know,

735
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 12: our friendship binds us in that I can I feel

736
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 12: like I know it already even though it's new.

737
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 6: But even when I write it myself, it's like, Okay,

738
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 6: I still have to come up create something.

739
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 5: So you have to feel it.

740
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 12: Yeah, it leaves a window because I don't necessarily write

741
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 12: from a rhythmic point of view.

742
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 6: I'm not coming up with.

743
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 5: You know, you're coming up with melodies and a feeling.

744
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, and writing for their voices. Yeah, so that my voice.

745
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 6: Then I have to write later when we're all together,

746
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 6: or you.

747
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 5: Just have to feel it in the room exactly.

748
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 6: And so I love I love those those.

749
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 12: The process you know of getting there, you know, like

750
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 12: you're speaking about getting there and then and with Mama

751
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 12: Rosa music, it's kind of then I'm here, So I

752
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 12: have to take off that hat.

753
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 6: And yeah, on this other hat.

754
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 5: So Ma Morosa is the band.

755
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: The song we just did is from that band, Yes,

756
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 1: and that's where you sing and play guitar exactly. Yeah,

757
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: and so the drummer in that band must be like

758
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: oh crap, because you're not playing drums, you're hier drummer.

759
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 6: Which that must have been really hard.

760
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 12: It's it's it's actually easy because well, Steve Nister plays

761
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 12: drums in Ma Rosa and he is so great because

762
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 12: he felt something from the music and.

763
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 6: Approached me about it. So oh wow, So it's great.

764
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 6: I can just trust him to do his thing.

765
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 5: That's good. There's no weird like drum off thankfully so and.

766
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 6: He'll, you know, if I have some random suggestion, he's

767
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 6: open to it, which is great.

768
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: I want.

769
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 6: I wanted there to be that you know, collaborative, you know, feeling.

770
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: When you started this band and made the record or

771
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: had you been doing gigs with the Mama Rosa material

772
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: the record?

773
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 12: No, you know it was it was all very Again

774
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 12: I have to thank my friend Daniel land While because

775
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 12: you know, it was all on a four track at

776
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 12: home for me, a diary. Really, it wasn't about trying

777
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 12: to make a record to put out. It's just what

778
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 12: you do exactly. But then the great blessing that came

779
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 12: and me realizing what it means to truly release something.

780
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, like that's the whole thing, the.

781
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 6: Fullness of that that's being completed. Like yeah, okay, you know,

782
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 6: I'm fine with it just existing right here in my room.

783
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 6: But then when it goes.

784
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 5: Out, then you know, you have to let go a

785
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 5: little and and and wow.

786
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 6: What can come back?

787
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 21: You know?

788
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 6: And what does come back?

789
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 12: It's boundless And I've already I mean I've seen it,

790
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 12: and my wife I've seen it, you know, and just

791
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 12: strangers who you know, and and wow, what a fulfillment.

792
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 12: Like had I not put out Mama Rosa, I probably

793
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 12: wouldn't be married right now. Really, I mean really, I

794
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 12: mean in a way, it's kind of like a lot

795
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 12: of letters in there to her.

796
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 5: I love the story, Yeah, how personally you want to

797
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 5: get but.

798
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 12: No, no, it's but again, it's like it's like a transmission.

799
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 6: You know, you got to send it, You got to

800
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 6: send it out. I mean not that I wasn't, but

801
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 6: in that way were a record.

802
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, you weren't mailing them too, No, No.

803
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 6: They were really kind of just tucked away, hidden.

804
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 5: And because you knew each other in high school.

805
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I just want to know.

806
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know you, I don't know how deep you

807
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 5: want to get.

808
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 6: It's great, it's great all.

809
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 5: And then she discovered the record.

810
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, and reached out, heard a song and yeah. Wow.

811
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 12: So it's funny twenty years goes by and you're like wow,

812
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 12: you know, and then still thinking about you.

813
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, Yeah, it's very beautiful.

814
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 12: It's so you know, the record actually means a lot

815
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 12: to me, the music on that record, and then continuing

816
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 12: to develop ideas for the future.

817
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: It's really you know, well, I love your singing and

818
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: it took a while for me to make you sing

819
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: with me. Once I realized how good of a singer

820
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: you were, I just wanted you to sing all the time.

821
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: What other song from the Mama Rossa would you like

822
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 1: to do? We have we have center Line or Nature's Law?

823
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 12: Oh wow, we could try at the center line or uh.

824
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 12: I've never played Nature's Law with anyone, so that would be.

825
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 5: Really well, you know, I would just tinker.

826
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 6: Also, you could just play it you can No, No,

827
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 6: I would love love to do either one. Which one

828
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 6: would you both? Okay? Cool?

829
00:55:58,960 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 7: Yeah?

830
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 21: Servinity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage

831
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 21: to change the things I can, and the wisdom to

832
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 21: know the deaferences.

833
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 15: We won't be for sake.

834
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 10: Is Mercy Woden will fall.

835
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 17: Speed, the past behind us, net the moment, bring nother change.

836
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 16: Because in my.

837
00:56:58,400 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 7: I love.

838
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 15: Do love me away, wild love is rady can I

839
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 15: big spaceted?

840
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 22: At the citterlaw, we will find our balance.

841
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 5: The sister's hard and a brother's head.

842
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 11: At the center line.

843
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 22: We will lead the challenge dead down and start at

844
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 22: the sinson land. We will find our balance the sister's

845
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 22: hard of brother's head.

846
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 16: At the center law.

847
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 15: We will need the chavelenge.

848
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 22: Tear it down and start again.

849
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 2: Had the cinter.

850
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 16: It's the center, the center had the center line.

851
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 10: You're also man.

852
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 6: That it's so bizarre.

853
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:14,919
Speaker 2: I know me singing.

854
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 6: I mean, man, I love it. It's beautiful, thank you. Wow.

855
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 5: Well it's easier.

856
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: It's funny because like there's some very strange chords in

857
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: these songs that don't make a lot of sense to me.

858
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: But then when I don't think about the chords and

859
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: I just listen to the melody, I can follow it,

860
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

861
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 5: And I guess that's it, like just get out of

862
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 5: your head.

863
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 12: I hope, So I think, yeah, that's I mean, it's

864
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 12: almost like, well, I guess you feel that way in

865
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 12: your songwriting. I would think too, like there's this gravity

866
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 12: and you're like, oh wow, I'm going there okay or

867
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 12: some noow you just place your hand and you're like.

868
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's nice, random shape. Yeah.

869
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 12: So like I look for those those kind of surprising

870
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 12: moments you know too, you know, inspire me, hopefully push

871
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 12: me into like.

872
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 6: Ooh yeah yeah on Chartered Territory it's cool. Yeah.

873
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: Also, I noticed that you always have a guitar when

874
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: we're on tour, so you're always in your hotel room

875
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: kind of tinkering around, right.

876
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 5: You know, you always had that guitar on tour.

877
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 6: Like since since what was it ninety five?

878
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 12: Nice just before the first Fellowship Band record and you know,

879
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 12: starting to write, yeah, and I realized that I didn't

880
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 12: have a great connection with the piano.

881
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 6: I've written very little at the piano.

882
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 5: Plus can't take it to your hotel room, can't.

883
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 6: Then there's that, so you know, maybe it's because violin

884
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 6: was my first instrument.

885
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 12: Really yeah, so I had this maybe the string and

886
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 12: want you know, like and through my again my friend

887
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 12: Daniel Lanwile being around him and you know, his guitars.

888
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 6: Were always there and you say, oh, you could play

889
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 6: you know.

890
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 12: Whatever you want and realizing that, oh I kind of

891
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 12: had a friend I could take and so yeah, I've

892
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 12: kept it with even sometimes a week on the road

893
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 12: goes by and it doesn't get touched and I'm tony it.

894
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: But arguing with flight attendants, I promise this will fit

895
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Speaker 1: in the overhead fits.

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Speaker 16: Ye, just let me check.

897
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Speaker 12: So there's a thing that ten minutes you're like in

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Speaker 12: the bathroom before sound check.

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Speaker 6: Even if you have that, you never know when to spark.

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01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 5: It can't catch. You might write a great song exactly,

901
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 5: So it's.

902
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 6: Worth it just in case. Yeah, keep it, keep it there,

903
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 6: and I love it. Put the ideas down.

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Speaker 2: I'm just playing.

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Speaker 5: I remember seeing your dad.

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01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, your dad h Brady Senior, right,

907
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: and you guys have that band, the Hallelujah Train exactly.

908
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 5: And he's he's been preaching in the same church for

909
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 5: how many years?

910
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Speaker 6: This is the sixty first year. That's crazy.

911
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, same church, same building. Even no's move.

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01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 12: He's moved the church. This is the third move over

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01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 12: the years. And he's one of those guys. You know,

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Speaker 12: I always feel like he had a future, you know,

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01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 12: a vision of it, you know, like and growth and

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01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 12: like a father. He always did not like, oh wow,

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01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 12: I don't know, hope, I'm just a little of that

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Speaker 12: because he's.

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Speaker 5: A powerful person.

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01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: His presence, he's got the presence, he really does. He's

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Speaker 1: so tall, he's got the lowest baritone, right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 12: You know, he tells stories about because he's been singing,

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01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 12: you know, ever since he was born. Yeah, and his

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01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 12: high school you know life and confessing his call to

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Speaker 12: the ministry, you know, at what thirteen fourteen, So he's

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01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 12: entering high school with that over him, so to speak.

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Speaker 6: But you know, he's still a boy, and he's still

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01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 6: you know, taking part in dances.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, he's curious.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, but and but doing things and choosing to and

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01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 12: choosing not to do certain things. Yeah, so he's had

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Speaker 12: a trip his life. I'm trying to finish a documentary

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Speaker 12: about you know that's connected to the Holiday train and

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Speaker 12: his ministry out and.

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Speaker 6: In the songs that come.

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01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 5: From it, and so yeah, but I watch it. I mean,

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Speaker 5: he commands the stage.

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01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't take my eyes off him, and I saw,

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01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: you guys, he's a whip and he called me up.

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Speaker 6: I was like, okay, yes, sir, I mean thank you

942
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 6: for that. He still talks about it.

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01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: It was so fun also just seeing you up there

944
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Speaker 1: with your brother Brady, right, and Junior and Senior and

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01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: your dad singing, and you guys with the two drums,

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01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: with the two drums. There's something about two drummers playing

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01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: together that I don't always understand, you know, like some

948
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: bands have it, and it's there's moments where.

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Speaker 5: It's awesome, right, and then I'm like, but I don't understand.

950
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: Don't they feel kind of locked to something that maybe

951
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: they don't want to be. But when I saw you

952
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: and Brady playing drums together, it was really special and

953
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: it was just like the smiles, you know, I mean,

954
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: it was cool.

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01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 6: It's one of those things where you don't even have

956
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 6: to talk, you know, there's no question.

957
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 1: There's just something about that lock up between family. Yeah,

958
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: because you grew up doing.

959
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 2: It together, you know.

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01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's beautiful. I love how you when you sing,

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Speaker 1: you command you really command it. And I just kind

962
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: of flashed on your dad how he did command it?

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01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 6: Thank you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 5: Do you think you'd play me Nature's Law?

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01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 21: Oh?

967
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 5: Please? I love this song. I don't have to play

969
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 5: on it at all.

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01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 19: Oh please, man, I love it.

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01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 6: Thank you so it's honor for me.

972
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 5: Oh, I kind of want to play drums. I will

973
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Speaker 5: do you mind if I try?

974
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 6: I know, move, move those towels over there or anything.

975
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 6: Freak out of course?

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01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 12: Are you kidding?

977
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 6: This would be this would be awesome.

978
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Speaker 5: I mean your house, it's so great. I can't believe

979
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 5: played drums.

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01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 2: Thanks for being unfair? You kidding?

981
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Speaker 22: I love it.

982
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 6: That's just like a dream to please. I want to

983
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 6: try from the top, all right, lot h mm hmm.

984
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 17: She holds the scales on her left hand side, her

985
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 17: mighty sorts means.

986
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 7: Down from the ride.

987
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 6: She calls her right.

988
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 10: So that she won't go see the trouble in the

989
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 10: world won't let her be.

990
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 17: Balance shifts and we lose control, the bum drinking and

991
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 17: the bombs and explore because we wanted it all and

992
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 17: we won't let nothing but MITRE's law gonna bring us

993
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:36,440
Speaker 17: down to a turn away.

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01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 21: From the outside wood.

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01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 16: But I can't escape. Well, I must say, kind of

996
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 16: one too.

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01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 10: Dream for when and till the times come.

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01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 7: If I live the other.

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01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 16: Day, you all will be time.

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01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 17: You gotta shine your life so the ourside world can see.

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01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 16: Everything I give to you comes back to me.

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01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 7: Was that crazy?

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Speaker 1: It's so good.

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Speaker 15: I got a little loud on that, right should.

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Speaker 20: Thank you, thank you.

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01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:11,719
Speaker 5: That was amazing and fun.

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01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 12: I can't believe it.

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Speaker 2: Was that.

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Speaker 20: Okay, I love it. I gotta I gotta get.

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01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 2: Your drum kard.

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01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 13: Do go.

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01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 7: Oh, I love it.

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01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 16: Oh man, I cannot believe that.

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01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 5: Well, this was super fun.

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01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 6: Yes, thank you for I'm glad it happened and the

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Speaker 6: weather was on our side.

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Speaker 2: Then.

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Speaker 5: I love you so much. Thanks for playing with me always.

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Speaker 2: I'm just playing love.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for listening to the show. We love Brian Blade

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01:10:56,200 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 5: so much. Love you, Brian. Yeah, I got to play

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Speaker 5: his drums. Did I mention that that was so hilarious?

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Speaker 4: You're like, I think I want to play drums on

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Speaker 4: this one.

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Speaker 1: He's like, do it.

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Speaker 5: I love that he was so cool about it. He

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Speaker 5: was down for anything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he really was.

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Speaker 5: Thank god.

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Speaker 8: I love him.

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01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 4: Incredible person he is.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like after spending so much time with him,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I really got to know things. I

1034
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 1: really had no clue about doing this, so it was

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Speaker 1: really special.

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Speaker 4: I also love picturing like a young Brian, you know,

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Speaker 4: and kind of the way he looked up to great

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Speaker 4: drummers and how he just wanted to get there and yeah,

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Speaker 4: and he did and.

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Speaker 1: His brother so crazy. Well, thanks for listening, we hope

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Speaker 1: you join us again, and signing.

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 7: I was going to.

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Speaker 5: Audios.

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Speaker 1: Today's show was recorded at the Beautiful Alaire Studios Upstate

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Speaker 1: New York by John Valsio, mixed by Jamie Landry, Produced

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Speaker 1: and edited by Sarah Oda.

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Speaker 5: Additional engineering by Nate Yachino and Greg Tobler.

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Speaker 1: Photography by Shervin Linez, artwork by Eliza Fry.