WEBVTT - Hour 1 - Marc Stein (07-27-20)

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<v Speaker 1>how morale is, but come on in, stay a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you had a great weekend. Everybody stepped over the

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<v Speaker 1>line a little bit there. Yeah, the revenue deep deep

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<v Speaker 1>and not playable. We're dying over here. Our guy Bob Schmidt,

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<v Speaker 1>who does our opens, Wow, he just picks off old

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<v Speaker 1>clips there and inserts them and makes it all work there. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to get an update on the egging case there.

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<v Speaker 1>Todd's house got egg the other night, and maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>can give us an update a little bit later on there. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>any arrest in the caper, No arrest at this time. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Cameras are being looked at from various homes with those

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<v Speaker 1>little doorbell ring camera thing. Okay, all right, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get an update there. Todd's house got egged. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of culprits, a lot of people who would want to

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<v Speaker 1>egg your house, just people who join us on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>a bad situation isn't new either. They want to get

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<v Speaker 1>paid more, they want to go to a better situation,

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<v Speaker 1>they want to go to a better coach, maybe all

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<v Speaker 1>the above. But the former Jets safety Jamal Adams, you

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<v Speaker 1>could probably mark him down for all three of those

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<v Speaker 1>because he's been ripping the head coach Adam Gaze and

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<v Speaker 1>the team all season offseason, and then he got what

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted because the Jets shifting to Seattle for two

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<v Speaker 1>first round picks. Now, we'll talk about the deal coming

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<v Speaker 1>up in a moment, and it's never pretty, but criticizing

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<v Speaker 1>your own team can be an effective way to maybe

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<v Speaker 1>get out of that situation. In most other lines of work,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably can't get away with that. But keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>you choose your company, you don't get drafted. And Adams

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<v Speaker 1>is a tremendous player, and there was great hope for

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<v Speaker 1>him in New York, but he's not leading them to

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<v Speaker 1>the Promised Land anytime soon. They're on a rebuild again.

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<v Speaker 1>They got a fix years decades of mismanagement. As for

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<v Speaker 1>the Seahawks, Adams makes that defense potent once again. They're

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<v Speaker 1>all in on that defense and that team this year.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're not a fan of either team, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a win as well, because now we don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>read about Jamal Adams ripping the Jets every couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to go to his beloved Dallas Cowboys, but

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't happen. And I started to look at the

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<v Speaker 1>deal because I thought, wow, are the Jets going to

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<v Speaker 1>get two first round picks for Jamal Adams, who plays safety,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not a valued position. The Bears kicked off

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<v Speaker 1>the trend by trading two first rounders for Khalil Mack

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<v Speaker 1>Bill O'Brien, and the Texans two first round picks for

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle Laramie Tunsil and wide receiver Kenny Stills. The

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<v Speaker 1>Rams sent two first round picks to the Jags for

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<v Speaker 1>cornerback Jalen Ramsey, so that appeared to be the going

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<v Speaker 1>rate except for left tackle, very important edge rusher, very

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<v Speaker 1>important cornerback, very important Jamal Adams as a safety not

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<v Speaker 1>as important. You know, Seattle doing it. I understand why

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing it. And you start to look at this

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<v Speaker 1>and you go, kay, what are these picks going to be?

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<v Speaker 1>So Seattle is going to give up two first round

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<v Speaker 1>picks that'll probably be somewhere between twenty and twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe twenty and thirty. The Jets get the two first

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<v Speaker 1>round picks, and they get Bradley McDougall, and he is

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<v Speaker 1>a safety, so they get a safety, and he's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>a lesser version. He's thirty years of age, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>about the same size but not same players. So you

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<v Speaker 1>get him, and then you start to wonder about the Jets. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you got two first round picks. Well, it's one thing

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<v Speaker 1>to have first round picks. It's another thing to do

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<v Speaker 1>something positive with those first round picks. How about Kyle Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>Mohammed Wilkerson, Quentin Copela's, d Milner, Sheldon Richardson, Calvin Pryor,

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<v Speaker 1>Leonard Williams, Darren Lee, Jamal Adams, Sam Darnold. Out of

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<v Speaker 1>all of those first round picks since from twenty ten

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty eighteen, Sam Darnold's the only one still there.

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<v Speaker 1>You can have first round picks. We used to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Cleveland Browns all the time. Man I got some

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<v Speaker 1>first round picks, I said, well, who's making the picks?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's really really important here. And you saw what

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<v Speaker 1>the Cleveland Browns would do with those draft picks. Same

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<v Speaker 1>thing with the Jets. And you know, you start at

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<v Speaker 1>the top, and you got a mess at the top

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<v Speaker 1>with the Jets anyway, And what's going on with Woody Johnson?

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<v Speaker 1>And when he comes back, is the commissioner going to

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<v Speaker 1>let him take over this job after he comes back

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<v Speaker 1>from being a goodwill ambassador for President Trump? Probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>And his brother is in there, Chris Johnson. But it

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<v Speaker 1>starts at the top when you think about great teams

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<v Speaker 1>and ownership there. And I started to think about if

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<v Speaker 1>Woody Johnson, who was a longtime owner of the Jet

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<v Speaker 1>so he's the US Ambassador to the United Kingdom. In

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen, ahead of an event for Black History Month,

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<v Speaker 1>commonly marked at US embassies around the world, Woody Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>appeared agitated and asked if the audience would be quote,

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of black people. According to one source,

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<v Speaker 1>Three sources said Johnson questioned why the black community would

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<v Speaker 1>want a separate month to celebrate Black History and argue

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<v Speaker 1>that black fathers didn't remain with their families and that

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<v Speaker 1>was the real challenge. So Woody Johnson leaves to be

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<v Speaker 1>the ambassador and the Trump administration as brother Chris takes over.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe Chris can write the ship here. But if

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<v Speaker 1>what he comes back, I can't imagine this commissioner going, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>come on back, welcome, I've been waiting for you. The

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<v Speaker 1>bigger issue goes is this for me. Okay, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have good ownership, stable ownership ownership in flux, you still

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<v Speaker 1>pick Adam Gaze to be your head coach. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>big problem here because you could have had Matt Rule,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Matt Rule is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>star coach in this league. Carolina ended up taking a

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Rule. But for the Jets to trade Jamal Adams,

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<v Speaker 1>you're also sending a message to a league that is

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<v Speaker 1>seventy percent African American, who is running this team? You

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<v Speaker 1>got this coach here, free agents, are you gonna want

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<v Speaker 1>to go there? Like? The Jets are trying to rival

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<v Speaker 1>the Knicks here and they're doing a pretty good job.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a bad thing. But you got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of similarities here. By the way, the Knicks are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hi it looks like Tom Thibodeaux, whose nickname is Tibbs,

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<v Speaker 1>but it looks like they're going great winning percentage. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just uninspiring, is what it is. Just uninspiring. Maybe it's safe,

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<v Speaker 1>but I remember when you know they David Fizdale was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the Hey, this is the guy. Players

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<v Speaker 1>want to play for David Fizdale. Well they may want to,

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<v Speaker 1>but they didn't those who got drafted and those who

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<v Speaker 1>were free agents. I mean, Kevin Durant said, I never

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<v Speaker 1>considered the Knicks. I don't want to go there. Kyrie

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<v Speaker 1>Irving didn't want to go there. And so they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hire Tom Thibodeau. Only Greg Popovich and Eric Spolstra among

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<v Speaker 1>active coaches have a higher winning percentage there. But back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Jets, they have Sam Darnold and little else there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they got Levion Bell, but who cares about

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<v Speaker 1>Levion Bell? And why would you want to go play

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<v Speaker 1>for the Jets? And the Jets had finished last, last, last,

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<v Speaker 1>and next to last, and they're headed towards last place again.

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<v Speaker 1>This year. Yeah, McLevin, But you know, can you give

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they have a new GM chance like

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Douglas former Eagle, Dan Patrick, Choe fan, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>really highly regarded this first time you ever got to

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<v Speaker 1>draft with this year, So maybe he could be different.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that or is the ownership gonna well, no, as

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<v Speaker 1>long as he's able to make these picks and you're

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<v Speaker 1>confident that he's making the picks. Look at what happens

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<v Speaker 1>in some of these organizations. Daniel Snyder said, Hey, we're

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<v Speaker 1>taking Dwayne Haskins. So the owner is saying we're taking

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<v Speaker 1>Dwayne Haskins. Jimmy Haslim in Cleveland says we're taking Johnny Manziel.

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<v Speaker 1>If you let a football guy be a football guy,

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<v Speaker 1>then you have a chance to be successful. Yeah. If

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<v Speaker 1>James Dolan gets involved in this, then it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a mess for Tom Thibodeaux. Doesn't matter, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter who they put in there. It doesn't go well

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<v Speaker 1>and probably won't go well in this situation either because

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to want to play for the Jets. Who's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna want to play for the Knicks. Like we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about New York sports all the time, New York sports

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<v Speaker 1>might be the most overrated city when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>sports here. You got the Jets are terrible, the Giants

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<v Speaker 1>are mediocre at best. You got the Mets a mass

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<v Speaker 1>The Yankees do have a great team and they get

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of coverage there. But you got Mets ownership

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<v Speaker 1>in flock state of flux. There, you got the Giants,

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<v Speaker 1>who are you meddling middle of the road, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you got the Jets as well, and then throwing the Knicks.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you the Nets as well, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they're gonna be promising down the road. We do

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<v Speaker 1>that as a pole the most dysfunctional New York team.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny the Mets still jumps to the

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<v Speaker 1>top of mind. Is there's a lot going on there? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Let's see who buys the team. That's if

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<v Speaker 1>joins the Oh my god, then yeah, that would be awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>First round picks over the last eight years the Seattle

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<v Speaker 1>Seahawks twenty seven, twenty seven traded to pick thirty one, traded, traded, traded.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you're getting two late first round picks because

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<v Speaker 1>this Seattle team will be Now I understand this. If

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Seattle, I'm taking Jamal Adams for a couple of reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>great against the run. I'm getting Jamal Adams for one

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<v Speaker 1>big reason to stop the forty nine ers offense, Kittle

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<v Speaker 1>and the running game. That's why I'm bringing in Jamal

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<v Speaker 1>Adams because if you don't get past the nine Ers,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not getting to the super Bowl. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>get past them in your own division. But I'm bringing

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<v Speaker 1>in all Adams, and I'm saying to Jamal Adams, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know you have to pay them probably seventeen or

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen million dollars a year, and Seattle could afford that, No,

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<v Speaker 1>they can. They got Russell Wilson already on the books.

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Wagner, I think is on the books here. So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's your big ticket item. Your other big ticket

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<v Speaker 1>item is going to be Jamal Adams. Okay, But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle rolled the dice on this and they gave up

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<v Speaker 1>two first round picks. But I think you have to

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<v Speaker 1>look at the first round picks. They're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>late in the first round. Yes, mclovin, but what about

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<v Speaker 1>the cap going down and then trying to sign him

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<v Speaker 1>and keep everybody. Isn't that like everyone's saying the CAP's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go down and yet I don't know what you're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing about that. Yeah, I probably will, But that's why

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<v Speaker 1>you need first round picks because they're cheap. Well, Seattle,

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle's trying to win now, and that does first round

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<v Speaker 1>picks aren't going to ensure that you're going to be great.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're getting some of these guys or you're

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<v Speaker 1>just bat at drafting, or it'll take a little while

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<v Speaker 1>for these guys to get seasoned. Seattle is ready to

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<v Speaker 1>win now, and Seattle is a very good team. And

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<v Speaker 1>now you put Adams there at the back end of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got Russell Wilson as my quarterback on offense,

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<v Speaker 1>Jamal Adams as my quarterback with Bobby Wagner on defense. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is about playing the forty nine ers in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, and I understand why both teams had to

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<v Speaker 1>make the trade. I just I've never had confidence in

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<v Speaker 1>what the Jets do with their draft picks, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>with the new GM maybe that'll be a big difference

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<v Speaker 1>here because they're going to have first round picks. Sorry, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I thought it was a good one to

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<v Speaker 1>start of the week. Do we have a poll question,

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<v Speaker 1>McLevin well, I was going to say, who won the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets Seahawks? Trade Jets Seahawks or win win sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a strong option because you just kind of convinced me

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<v Speaker 1>both teams did what they had to. You can't pick

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<v Speaker 1>win win. I would go. I would go with the

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<v Speaker 1>Seahawks because the NFL is about now, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I didn't know. We love to build for the future,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Jets have been building for the future for

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<v Speaker 1>quite some time. The Dolphins have been building for the

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<v Speaker 1>like teams Bears have been building for the few teams

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<v Speaker 1>build for the future, and they never build for today.

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<v Speaker 1>Now win now and Seattle. Seattle went all in on him.

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<v Speaker 1>As long as Jamal Adams shows up and wants to

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<v Speaker 1>be a leader, then great. But you know, all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, he starts to pout a little bit for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, or he's not going to get as much

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<v Speaker 1>money as he thinks then it could go south. But

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<v Speaker 1>I like the move for Seattle because you got an

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<v Speaker 1>elite guy. Granted it's not an elite position, but he

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<v Speaker 1>is an impact player and you got him because you

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<v Speaker 1>must stop George Kittle and the running game with the Niners.

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<v Speaker 1>That will be his mission, should he choose to accept it. Yes, Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>If you go back and look at the draft history

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<v Speaker 1>of the Jets, these players they go fast. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>bring back anybody, even the decent players. D mill And

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<v Speaker 1>are gone, Calvin Pryor gone, Leonard William's gone, Darren Lee

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<v Speaker 1>just twenty sixteen, he's gone, Jamal Adams now gone, Sam

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<v Speaker 1>Darnold in twenty eighteen, and then last year they got

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<v Speaker 1>win in Williams early in the draft, third pick, and

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<v Speaker 1>he has not off to a great start. But that

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<v Speaker 1>was mccagnet and John Zick, who was known as the

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<v Speaker 1>worst two GMS. Right. We always made fun of those

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<v Speaker 1>TNT cop show him mccagnet is it wasn't it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you remember, Mike mccagnet, I remember you had said

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<v Speaker 1>some unkind no you, I'm not gonna put it on you,

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<v Speaker 1>but you had always said that you'd heard him was

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<v Speaker 1>not the sharpest GM really. Mike mccagnan, Yeah, his reputation

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty bad with the Jets. Maybe I had a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of beers and said that, I don't know mccagnan

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<v Speaker 1>and Lacy, Yeah, I like that, mccagnet and Spacey. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say Seattle won it because I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what the Jets will do with these draft picks, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you got a guy instead of we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get potential here in the draft, you got Jamal

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<v Speaker 1>Adams and that that's pretty uh, pretty strong. What about

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<v Speaker 1>the team cancer aspect with Jamal Adams and the Jets,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he couldn't have him ripping the coaches every day? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, you had to get rid of him.

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<v Speaker 1>And he knew that because once he starts to criticize

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<v Speaker 1>the owner, Woody Johnson, and then he criticizes the head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just a matter of time that Okay, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not if I get traded, it's where I get traded.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to go to the Cowboys, but that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen, so he ends up with Seattle. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think both sides did pretty well. Did the best

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<v Speaker 1>that they probably could with this and giving up the

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<v Speaker 1>two first round picks. It sounds alarming, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>start to look at it. It's not like the You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals gave up two first round picks, then that

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<v Speaker 1>would be different. This is Seattle, and Seattle's pencil him

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<v Speaker 1>in for what ten wins this year. We'll probably draft

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourth this year. All right? Eight seven seven three

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<v Speaker 1>D P show email address DP at dan Patrick dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was the big headline. The Astros lose Justin

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<v Speaker 1>Verlander for a stretch, maybe a little bit longer than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Lou Williams out for the Clippers. More on that story

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, we'll talk to Mark Stunt, the great reporter

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<v Speaker 1>insider for the New York Times. He'll join us to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Lou Williams. I love Wings, and I probably

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<v Speaker 1>would love Magic City, but I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 1>leave Quarantine to go to Magic City for takeout with wings.

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<v Speaker 1>But but Lou loves his Wings from Magic City, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a strip club. NBA begins in three days. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way. John Smoltz will join us a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>later on, but we'll talk to Mark Stein coming up

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<v Speaker 1>about the bubble your phone calls are always welcome. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see if all Ethan just sent me something. Let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>In the entire last decade, New York's nine pro sports

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<v Speaker 1>teams Mets, Yankees, Knicks, Nets, Giants, Jets, Devils, Islanders, Rangers

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<v Speaker 1>have won one championship. That would be the Giants in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eleven. Stead of the day, stat of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>that best stat of the day, stat of the day

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<v Speaker 1>comes that what stat of the day? All morning long,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd created this sound effect from whenever I mentioned Ethan's name.

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<v Speaker 1>So I said to the big German, hey, big TV

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<v Speaker 1>production here, whenever I say Ethan's name, then you'll play

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<v Speaker 1>the sound effect. But he missed his Q because we

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<v Speaker 1>were rehearsing this an hour ago. We've never done rehearsals before.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to do one with the big German. That

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<v Speaker 1>was your first mistaken. Yeah, I know. I got Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>and Dylan and the big German back there, and I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so when I say Ethan, our stat guy, then you

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<v Speaker 1>hit the sounder. All right, we're working on it here. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know we had referenced Bob Schmidt, who does our opens,

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<v Speaker 1>earlier this segment. He also had sent in glorious. I

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<v Speaker 1>like it. I like it. Oh wait, there's more players

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<v Speaker 1>and coaches from the Miami Marlins who have tested positive

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<v Speaker 1>for COVID nineteen. I'll have that good news for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up here, we'll check in with Mark Stein in

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<v Speaker 1>the Bubble Al series. Is his situation with Lou Wimms.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine if this was a member of the Lakers and

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<v Speaker 1>not the Clippers, this would be leading sports shows today.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk to Mark Stein about that. Coming up twenty

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<v Speaker 1>The Miami Marlins home opener against the Orioles tonight has

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<v Speaker 1>been canceled. Big reason why. Eight more players coaches with

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<v Speaker 1>the Marlins that tested positive for COVID nineteen. An outbreak

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<v Speaker 1>has spread throughout their clubhouse and brought the total cases

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<v Speaker 1>in recent days to at least fourteen. Sources familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>the situation tell Jesse Rodgers and Jeff Passing of ESPN,

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<v Speaker 1>they played the Braves and they played the Phillies, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how that's going to impact those rosters

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<v Speaker 1>as well. But eight more players and two coaches with

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<v Speaker 1>question we're gonna go with. So I already put up

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<v Speaker 1>who won the Seahawks Jet Jamal Adams trade early leader

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<v Speaker 1>Seahawks fifty eight percent. Yeah, I'm fine with that. I

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<v Speaker 1>know we love to say who won and who lost.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know what the Jets are gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>with these draft picks. You look at that team and

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<v Speaker 1>they're not threatening at all. You've got Sam Darnold. They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna waste Sam Darnold's career in New York because they're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to do anything for five years with Sam Darnold. Gammicklevin,

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<v Speaker 1>I did was gonna put out a poll, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know that your answer to it best safety the last

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years, if Jamal Adams is the best now, if

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<v Speaker 1>I put Edward to palam All and Earl Thomas, is

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<v Speaker 1>there anybody who competes with Ed Reid? For you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I love Paula Mallo, but I just think Ed Reid's

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<v Speaker 1>the best safety best Well, I gotta be careful modern

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<v Speaker 1>day safety. Ronnie Lott was great, but it was different

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<v Speaker 1>back then when you could play a different way at safety.

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<v Speaker 1>But Earl Thomas was really talented as well. But Ed Reid,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, could make you pay an a variety of ways.

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<v Speaker 1>And some of these former players and coaches talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the intelligence of Ed Reid, that he was so smart

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<v Speaker 1>at that position. So I would say Ed Reid, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say Brian Dawkins, by the way, or my Philly fans,

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<v Speaker 1>don't kill me. He was in there discussing no and

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<v Speaker 1>Brian it's a Hall of famer. Yeah, he made the off. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely all right. So Mark Stein said to join us

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<v Speaker 1>on loan from the New York Times, and Fritzie is

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone with him, age seven seven, three d

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<v Speaker 1>P show email address DP at Dan Patrick dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>John Smoltz a little bit later on, we'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>our best and worst of the weekend. I watched a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of basketball, and I watched a lot of baseball

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I'm not going to criticize the cardboard cutouts,

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<v Speaker 1>or the virtual fans, or the virtual noise or any

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<v Speaker 1>of that. Even watching a glorified scrimmage in the NBA,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still a little awkward, but I'm seeing something that

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<v Speaker 1>is live, and I'm okay with that. Mark Stein is

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<v Speaker 1>in the bubble he's been covering the NBA since nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four. The New York Times reporter Mark joins us, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>where are you right now? Mark? I am. I found

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of quiet. The nine o'clock hour here

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<v Speaker 1>is always busy because that's testing hour for the media.

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<v Speaker 1>But I found some quiet not far from the testing

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<v Speaker 1>rooms they got. They got like four hotel rooms set

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<v Speaker 1>aside where we go in and test. And we're glamorous.

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<v Speaker 1>It's glamorous. We're three days away. How do you feel?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you look? The basketball fantastic. I mean to

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<v Speaker 1>be in a gym, you know, I'm not gonna lie

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<v Speaker 1>to you. Is this squeak of sneakers? It is glorious.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great to be there. You know, we all have

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<v Speaker 1>lamented what we don't have here. But one of the

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<v Speaker 1>perks we do have is arena seats more accustomed to

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<v Speaker 1>the way we used to back in the day when

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<v Speaker 1>when old guys like you and I were getting started.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're much closer to the court in one

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<v Speaker 1>of the three gyms, we are on the floor, so

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<v Speaker 1>the seats are amazing. You hear a lot, You hear

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more than you would at a normal game,

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<v Speaker 1>and just I think the teams, the players, guys are

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<v Speaker 1>really happy to be playing again. And and I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>this comment from multiple coaches that they're even practices. I

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<v Speaker 1>think guys just are so happy to be back in

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<v Speaker 1>the gym that even the kind of grumbling you would

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<v Speaker 1>get after five practice days in a row, you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>not hearing that guys want to be in the gym.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to play. The Lou Williams situation shouldn't hear.

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<v Speaker 1>I maintain if he had been a Laker, this would

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<v Speaker 1>be leading the national news. But here he is with

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<v Speaker 1>the Clippers. He goes to Atlanta, goes to a strip

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<v Speaker 1>club to order take up. But so what is the

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<v Speaker 1>violation for Lou Williams. Okay, so the violation is he

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't excused absence, unlike you know the Rashaun Holmes story

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<v Speaker 1>where Rashaun Holmes and the Sacramento Kings takes a few

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<v Speaker 1>steps over a campus border to pick up delivery. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not allowed to pick up. You know, this is Lou

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<v Speaker 1>Williams was on an excused absence. But he goes to

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<v Speaker 1>a public place and obviously we're all going to make

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<v Speaker 1>jokes about where he went and where he ended up.

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<v Speaker 1>But any public place is to me an egregious violation.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the bubble has started. You are an You're

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<v Speaker 1>on an excused absence to attend a family funeral. Does

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<v Speaker 1>it really need to be explained that the only place

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<v Speaker 1>you should go is that family funeral and get back,

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<v Speaker 1>get back on a plane and get back to his

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<v Speaker 1>bubble as quickly as possible. I mean, I really don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that needed to be spelled out. I mean, is

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<v Speaker 1>it was irresponsible, it was selfish, and thank god it

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 1>was photographed, because you know, he could have gotten back

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:13.159
<v Speaker 1>here and no one would have known where he was,

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:16.600
<v Speaker 1>and that would have been ten times worse. But the

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 1>reality is the NBA has limitations in how it can

0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:25.760
<v Speaker 1>sanction him, and so Rishan Holmes and Lou Williams get

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the same ten day back in quarantine basically because that's

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:32.359
<v Speaker 1>what the league has collectively bargained with the union on

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 1>these matters. Everybody's saying, why, why are the punishments the same, Well,

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:38.879
<v Speaker 1>that's why the NBA really didn't have much of an

0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:44.080
<v Speaker 1>option assess the Clippers situation from a basketball perspective. That

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 1>we came into the bubble and they were as deep

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:50.439
<v Speaker 1>as any team in the NBA, and a lot of

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 1>people like them to emerge from the Western Conference here.

0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:57.160
<v Speaker 1>But how would you handicap them? I mean, I joke him,

0:25:57.200 --> 0:25:59.879
<v Speaker 1>Noah is their center. I mean, well, here's the thing

0:25:59.920 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 1>that they do have time. I mean, seatings matter nothing

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:07.720
<v Speaker 1>in terms of home court advantage. They matter as far

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:10.400
<v Speaker 1>as who you might play. So obviously they don't want

0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:12.240
<v Speaker 1>to fall too far down the ladder because you don't

0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 1>want to make your road unnecessarily tougher having to play

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:18.720
<v Speaker 1>tougher teams. But they do have time. This you know,

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:21.120
<v Speaker 1>all these teams are playing eight games before we even

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:23.439
<v Speaker 1>get to the playoffs. So yeah, I mean it doesn't

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:26.160
<v Speaker 1>look great right now when you have no Harold, no

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 1>Lou Williams, Pat Beverly just got back, no Zoobox. I

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:31.879
<v Speaker 1>mean they're missing, they're no Landry Shammitt. I mean, they

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:36.199
<v Speaker 1>are missing a slew of rotation players. But they do

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:41.120
<v Speaker 1>have time on their side. And you know, I'm sure

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 1>there's no question. I mean, Doc rivers is I would

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 1>say uneasy about it, but it's way too soon for

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>them to panic. I mean the damage. We'll be able

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>to assess the damage better when the standings are finishing

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 1>and we see how how far they fall down the list,

0:26:57.880 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 1>and you know kind of what that does them in

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:02.360
<v Speaker 1>terms of first round opponent. But you know, they still

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:04.879
<v Speaker 1>have that Kawhi Leonard guy, and they still have Paul George,

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 1>so you know, no, I think they're gonna be okay.

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:09.639
<v Speaker 1>How do you think history's going to view Kawhi Leonard.

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Let's say he wins a couple more titles here and

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.920
<v Speaker 1>we of course start with our all time list when

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 1>we start with how many titles have you won? Kawhi

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:23.199
<v Speaker 1>sort of that enigma that you know, not quite sure

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:27.479
<v Speaker 1>how to categorize him, as he's a great postseason player,

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:30.679
<v Speaker 1>but we've seen that he sort of is a really

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 1>good regular season player. It is a fascinating case because

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:41.479
<v Speaker 1>he just also doesn't do anything to sell himself. He

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 1>doesn't give us an hounce to work with, especially during

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:49.160
<v Speaker 1>the regular season when you know it's all about load management.

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:55.400
<v Speaker 1>But he's probably not going to get his just due unfortunately,

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:57.920
<v Speaker 1>when you you know, we always talk about super team,

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:03.119
<v Speaker 1>the San Antonio's in twenty thirteen and twenty fourteen, that

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:05.879
<v Speaker 1>was the super team, and he made them the super

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:09.680
<v Speaker 1>team when you had Kawhi Leonards, the Duncan Parker and

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Jenobli and we never look at the Spurs that way.

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>But they easily could have won and some which they

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:21.119
<v Speaker 1>should have won in twenty thirteen. They absolutely disassembled the

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Heatles in twenty fourteen and broke that team up. That

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:27.640
<v Speaker 1>was the super team. And Kawhi Leonard is what put

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:30.639
<v Speaker 1>it at that level. And we really don't even discuss it.

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>And you know, if he if the Clippers win it all.

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Now look, if the Clippers win it all. See my

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:40.880
<v Speaker 1>contention is, no matter who if any of the top

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>three teams win, if the Lakers win, people are gonna say,

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>lebrah and this doesn't count. This isn't real. If the

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Clippers win, win a real championship, this is this is

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the only way you could win was one of these

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the Bucks. Oh, Yannis, you gotta leave Milwaukee. This doesn't count.

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna hear that no matter who wins. But

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 1>if the Clippers win it all, and I Leonard is

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>the first guy to win titles with three teams, if

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 1>he beats Lebron in that race, yeah, I mean historically

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 1>that's huge. I agree. I just don't know if history

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 1>is going to treat him, maybe fairly. But you're right,

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't go out of his way. But I look,

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 1>it's just not who he is. And I'm Tim Duncan

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:21.479
<v Speaker 1>never tried to curry favor. He never tried to, you know,

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>be friendly with anybody. He just went out in won championships.

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Mark Stein, the New York Times NBA

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 1>writer the Tom Thibodeaux moved by the Knicks. As much

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>as I respect him, I do like him, it just

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 1>seems so uninspiring. You got the same ownership here. How

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 1>does this change the Knicks in your opinion? Well, from

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>the minute Leon Rose took over everyone in this league,

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>especially in coaching circles, Tom Thibodeau was getting this job

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>and he did, ye know, they interviewed ten eleven guys

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 1>and you know that's what teams do. Now. There is

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 1>a value when that because you're getting you know, you're

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>getting you're getting a look at possible assistance, you're getting

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>information from other organizations to put in your database. But

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 1>no matter who they talk to, everybody everybody thought TIBs

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 1>was getting the job. And look, Tids is a fantastic coach.

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:20.719
<v Speaker 1>The issue here is Leon Rose has come in and

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 1>basically every move made has been someone from his inner

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>circle who's been there for the last ten years. And

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>that's why that's why uninspiring is the is the word

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 1>you chose. I mean, we could have probably predicted all

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 1>of these moves from the minute Leon Rose took over.

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 1>And he's and this is the problem. Leon Rose was

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 1>a decorated player agent. He's never run a team, he's

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>never run an organization. And if you bring in you know,

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>a coach you used to represent and Worldwide West who

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 1>was part of the same representation firm, and you know,

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 1>if your whole stoubting operation is just you know, people

0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 1>who have been part of your group, your click for

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 1>a long time. I mean, it is no question it's worrisome.

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 1>But ultimately, this is a talent thing, and the Knicks

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 1>are so far adrift of where they should be talent wise.

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>They've got to know they've got to shore up the roster,

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 1>for one, but also they've gotta they've got to Leon

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Roads has to build a good basketball operations. But who's

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna want to play there? Mark, That's the key. These

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>free agents aren't our age. They don't go boy, I'd

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>love to play for the Knicks in the Garden, totally right.

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna have They're gonna have to draft and trade

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 1>well first and and and change the perception of that organization.

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 1>But look, it's look, I still think the Nick the

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Knicks are still a marquee team and Madison Square Garden

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 1>is even this generation, guys still want to play in

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>that building. That does carry a little bit of weight.

0:31:56.680 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, with free agents, when you hear Kevin Durant

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>say how uncool they are in that red Nate and

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm saying. Leon Roose is going to have

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:08.479
<v Speaker 1>to be the one who leads the way to change

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>that reputation. And because he has no experience in this

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 1>arena that I mean, that's where the skepticism comes from.

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Stay safe down there, and we look forward to reading

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>your columns here in the New York Times. Mark, great

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>to talk to you again. Thank you. That's good guys.

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 1>It's Mark Stunt, New York Times reporter and covering the

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>NBA since nineteen ninety four. I think we started covering

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the NBA just about the same time when I was

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 1>at the Mothership back then. But I did get to

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 1>cover the NBA when I was at CNN back in

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the eighties as well. You know the Lou Williams situation

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 1>that I had a former player who said, well, let's

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 1>say he was at a really nice restaurant and not

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>at a strip club. Would we view this differently? And

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 1>my thought is, you're in the bubble, you have an

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 1>excused absence. You shouldn't be going anywhere. And the former

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 1>players said, well, but he knows he's going to be

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 1>quarantine when he comes back in, so he's not putting

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 1>anybody at risk. He said. The media is getting caught

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 1>up in the fact that it's a strip club. I said, well,

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>it's takeout at a strip club. Was it truly takeout

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>at a strip club? Is that one of those where

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>you spend like fifteen minutes while you wait for your

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 1>order at the strip club? And here is Lou Williams

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 1>earlier this year talking about his favorite restaurant in the country.

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>That is my favorite restaurant in the world. But I

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't know they even have food like that. Bro Okay, listen,

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>So all timing to shut down in Atlanta, the restaurant

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>is still open. You can still go to Magic and

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 1>get your food. It's essential. It's an essential. It's a

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 1>part of our culture here. Yeah, so that's Lou Williams.

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 1>This is his favorite restaurant in the world, not just

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 1>the United States. So it's the favorite place in the world.

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Young point. So I saw that report. This confirms that

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 1>the stage wasn't even open. He was just at the

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 1>takeout window right there was not Everyone's like, well, he

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:12.879
<v Speaker 1>went to the strip club to get wings air quotes. Yeah,

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>he was really haired for the entertain so porshet of

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the main stage, who was not happening there? H But

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:21.799
<v Speaker 1>he got wings and somebody took a picture. Okay, but

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>if you're there for pickup, how did so somebody takes

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:30.919
<v Speaker 1>a picture of him. But I don't understand the whole

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>set up there at Magic City. I've tried to do

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>takeout of the strip club before. It never works, if

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. It never really I'd have

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 1>guys who would swear they'd go for lunch buffet guys

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:49.920
<v Speaker 1>at ESPN, guys that weren't on the air the assignment desk.

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:52.760
<v Speaker 1>My first day at ESPN, we went to the Blue

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 1>Parrot Strip Club. Yeah, and I had just gotten there

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:59.879
<v Speaker 1>and U two guys on the assignment desk. They go, hey,

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:01.919
<v Speaker 1>you want to go get lunch? And I go yeah,

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:03.840
<v Speaker 1>and they go We're gonna go to the Blue Parrot

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 1>and I go, okay, well that seems like an interesting name,

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 1>like you don't think great food with a place like

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 1>the Blue Parrot. I walk in, send them into the

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>main stage and I'm going wait, and they go yeah,

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>now the lunch is really good. I go, okay. So

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 1>that was my first day at ESPN. Lunch at the

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Blue Parrot. Yeah, Paulling. If you order your ring wings

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:29.879
<v Speaker 1>dry rubbed at the strip, there's a whole different kind

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:34.320
<v Speaker 1>of okay. I expected that from the back row to

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:37.879
<v Speaker 1>this is on a tea from No No, don't try

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 1>to top, no topping unless you can. You have no

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 1>mock headlines for Lou Williams going to a strip club

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 1>for takeout with waiting. It can get very very racy, though,

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>How blue can you go? Now you're parental guidance the

0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:58.919
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<v Speaker 1>to find out the Marlins home opener against the Orioles

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<v Speaker 1>tonight has been canceled because they had eight more people.

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<v Speaker 1>The players and coaches test positive for the virus, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know can they postponent. At what point it

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<v Speaker 1>does it become a forfeit? Because you have what sixty

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<v Speaker 1>games in a span of sixty seven days, I believe,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's not much wiggle room here. But this game

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<v Speaker 1>has been canceled. I'm guessing you can try to do

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<v Speaker 1>a doubleheader. But if these players have tested positive once again,

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<v Speaker 1>eight more players and two coaches with the Marlins have

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<v Speaker 1>tested positive. So that brings what's the total of players

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<v Speaker 1>and coaches in the organization who have tested positive? Because

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<v Speaker 1>it says eight more players in two coaches fourteen total?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you? Seton. So they have an outbreak here and

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<v Speaker 1>they wow, I don't know how you. I have the

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<v Speaker 1>team schedules here, they average about four days off, three

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<v Speaker 1>or four days off a month. There wouldn't be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time to make up games. Let's say the

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<v Speaker 1>Marlins got shut down for a week, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>six baseball games. You're not having six doubleheaders to make

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<v Speaker 1>up because should be forfeits. But it's not fair to

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<v Speaker 1>the other team, right, The Orioles are ready to play,

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:38.600
<v Speaker 1>the Marlins are not. I go back to what the

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<v Speaker 1>commissioner told me when I had him on a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago, he said, I think the way that

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<v Speaker 1>I think about it is the vein of competitive integrity

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<v Speaker 1>in a sixty game season. If we have a team

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<v Speaker 1>or two that's really decimated with a number of people

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<v Speaker 1>who have had the virus and can't play for any

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<v Speaker 1>significant period of time, it could have a real impact

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<v Speaker 1>on the competition, and we would have to think very

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<v Speaker 1>very hard about what we're doing. Because I said, would

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<v Speaker 1>you pause this season at any point? And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>he's referring to, would you pause the season? So this

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<v Speaker 1>is fourteen now, we don't know, if you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>the Marlins and they who they came in contact with

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 1>with Philadelphia in Atlanta. Keep in mind, the NBA shut

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<v Speaker 1>down the entire organization when Rudy Gobert tested positive. So

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<v Speaker 1>one person tested positive, they shut it down. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know back then we weren't quite sure exactly what it

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<v Speaker 1>was and how contagious it was and how widespread it was,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly in the sports community. But here's fourteen members of

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<v Speaker 1>the Marlins organization who have tested positive and they just canceled.

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<v Speaker 1>The game hasn't been forfeited yet. But then what's Baltimore do?

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<v Speaker 1>So Baltimore is there in Miami and then they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to face a team that is going to quarantine their players.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you bring up minor leaguers here? I means this,

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't good news for football. I know that we

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<v Speaker 1>keep saying football has time and can they learn from it?

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe they can, but this is not a good situation.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm the commissioner of the NFL, if I'm Roger Goodell, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to know what is going

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<v Speaker 1>on here protocol And that's why I go back to

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<v Speaker 1>Lou Williams. I mean, it's irresponsible. You can't be out

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<v Speaker 1>doing this, even if you're doing pickup. Have somebody do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been given permission to leave the bubble. You must

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<v Speaker 1>be sociably conscious of what you're doing. Now. If I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the commissioner, even though you can't do this like we

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<v Speaker 1>already have a you know, a punishments in place, I

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<v Speaker 1>would tell Lou Williams not to come back. You can't.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's how serious that this is how you have

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<v Speaker 1>to take it. You must police yourself. You must be

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<v Speaker 1>strident in being responsible here. There's million, hundreds of millions

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 1>of dollars at stake here. You got people with their health,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean teams with their health, coaches, everybody's involved in this,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't be out doing take out. You can't

0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 1>be doing those things and running that risk. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to get the same punishment as some of these

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<v Speaker 1>other players who went to get pick up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the bubble. But I would tell Lou Williams, don't

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<v Speaker 1>come back, even though you can. The Marlins and Orioles

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<v Speaker 1>are scheduled to meet four times this year, all of

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:58.799
<v Speaker 1>them this week, today, tomorrow at Miami. Today has already

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<v Speaker 1>been postponed on Wednesday and Thursday. How are they going

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<v Speaker 1>to do this? Wow? Johnny Smalt's going to join us

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit later on. We'll talk about it. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the Monday edition. Here