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Speaker 1: for the weeks in between episodes, we look at stories

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Speaker 1: and ideas that, for one reason or other, didn't make

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Speaker 1: it into the previous show. Last week's episode, Wilderness Be

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Speaker 1: Still told the tragic story of the Jamison family, whose

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Speaker 1: mysterious deaths in two thousand and nine remain unsolved. Despite

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Speaker 1: they may or may not have been involved in. No

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Speaker 1: with these extra episodes we explore something relevant to the

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Speaker 1: previous week's story. However, this week's is a little different.

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Speaker 1: The following story was something I came across while conducting

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Speaker 1: apologies for the rather tenuous link. The place in question

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Speaker 1: is Robber's Cave State Park, a large wooded area of

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Speaker 1: of Wilburton. The area became infamous during the American Civil

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Speaker 1: of science, known as the nineteen fifty four Robbers Cave Experiment.

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Speaker 1: It remains a highly valued textbook example of realistic conflict theory,

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Speaker 1: and one that it's fair to say would never be

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Speaker 1: the Tom Hale Scout Camp in Robber's Cave Park, a

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Speaker 1: who had been profoundly scarred by the events of his

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Speaker 1: The Rattlers, who considered the baseball diamond exclusively theirs, were

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