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Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic

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Speaker 1: episode was produced by the team at Pandora.

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Speaker 2: Hey it's Unpaid Bill. On this week's Quest Love Supreme Classic,

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Speaker 2: we talked to comedian, writer and filmmaker Mike Rofiglia about

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Speaker 2: his real life sleepwalking, his movie Don't Think Twice, and

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Speaker 2: the insatiable nature of success. This is from November ninth,

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. See you on the next go round.

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Speaker 3: Shut Up Bill, Just start the episode.

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Speaker 4: Suprema su su Supremo roll call, Suprema Suck Suck Supremo

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Speaker 4: roll call, Suprema Suck Suh Supremo roll call, Suprema Suck

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Speaker 4: Suck Suprema roll call.

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Speaker 3: I am Questlove. Yeah, I do not quit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Today We're gonna find out. Yeah, Bobby ruined good Ship.

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Speaker 4: Whoa Suprema Sun Sun Supremo. Role called Suprema su su

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Speaker 4: Suprema roll call.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got electric ladies. Yeah, they come to my crib. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Rice and.

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Speaker 4: Suprema Sun Sun Suprema roll Calm, Suprema soun son.

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Speaker 3: Supremo roll called. My name is Steve, Yeah, Sugar Steve.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like I'm not wanted.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in this room, roll call Suprema So soun Supremo

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Speaker 4: role call.

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Speaker 2: My name is Bill. Yeah, I'm still unpaid. Yeah, got divorced. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I need to get the ro Suprema.

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Speaker 4: Sun Sun Suprema roll Calm Suprema Soun Son Suprema roll.

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Speaker 3: Call Ham Boss Bill.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Tater Tots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I run this show. Yeah, don't believe me.

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Speaker 4: Just watch Sam Son Sun Supreme. Roll call Suprema Son

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Speaker 4: Sun Suprema roll Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Please don't fight me. Yeah, because I don't know how

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Speaker 6: to do this.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Suprema Son Sun Supremo, Roll call, Suprema Son Sun

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Speaker 4: Suprema roll call.

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Speaker 7: My name is Mike. Yeah, I'm not going for a hike. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I ain't look at my physique.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Suprema Suprema roll call, Suprema Son Sun Supremo, Roll

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Speaker 4: call Supremo Son So Supremo, Roll call Suprema So So Supreme. Roll.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another addition of Course Love

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Speaker 1: Supreme only on Pandora. Yes, I'm Course Love and we

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Speaker 1: got the team Supreme with us, and today we got

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Speaker 1: a really great show for you. Comedian, writer, actor and

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Speaker 1: director Mike Burbigley is on the show he'll be on

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Speaker 1: in a bit, and we're talking about his new movie

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Speaker 1: Don't Think Twice, which is out next Wednesday on iTunes

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Speaker 1: and on December sixth on Blu Ray. And before all that,

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Speaker 1: we're going to check in with the Team Supreme. We

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Speaker 1: are here at our home at Electric Ladies Studios.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that sugar, Steve. Yes, we're back at Electric Lady Man.

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Speaker 3: We never left. We never left.

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Speaker 5: I've been hiding under this couch for twenty years.

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Speaker 1: Steve and I first met each other twenty years ago

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Speaker 1: at where we are right now, this location.

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Speaker 5: Very to our anniversary tonight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's good to be here. I just never

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Speaker 1: knew that our return to Electric Ladies Studios would be

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Speaker 1: a radio show. Yeah, exactly. Okay, So to my left,

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Speaker 1: going clockwa uh Sugar Steve, what's up pal?

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Speaker 5: Feeling good?

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Speaker 3: You're feeling good?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: Okay, great, stomach hurts, my head is killing.

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Speaker 3: Me, okay, okay, unpaid Bill? How you doing?

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Speaker 7: Bro?

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Speaker 2: Good man?

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Speaker 3: Are you I'm great?

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Speaker 2: How's life fantastic?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you look like ship? Thank you coming from you?

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Speaker 3: Very sure?

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Speaker 2: It's really really painful.

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Speaker 3: Fine TiO another day, another dollar, brother, how's it going man?

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Speaker 3: I can't complain it though.

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Speaker 8: Man, I'm sitting here a quest a little supreme, an

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Speaker 8: electric lady and ship chopping up this paper.

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Speaker 3: You couldn't leave it, you could, all right, we are

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Speaker 3: officially chopping on paper? What the fuck does that mean?

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Speaker 3: Up the paper? It's like you know what I mean?

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Speaker 9: Oh, you know for those that are as well as

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Speaker 9: tell everybody, oh, what's chopping up paper?

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Speaker 8: Chopping up paper is a colloquialism used in the American

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Speaker 8: South among negroes who are probably making their money in

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Speaker 8: the legal activities such as drug dealing or money laundering,

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Speaker 1: It is referred to as you know, I'm gaining this

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Speaker 8: As at a rate that is just incredible. So I'm

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Speaker 8: here by chopping up the paper. It doesn't mean I'm

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Speaker 8: literally putting blades to the paper and then breaking it off.

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Speaker 5: It's just counterfeit money.

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Speaker 3: It could be chopping it up, you could.

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Speaker 8: You could be breaking it up like in the sheets

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Speaker 8: like white. But it's just very much you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: Boss, Bill, hold on, come on stop. How are we

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Speaker 3: doing doing really well? More importantly, how am I doing?

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Speaker 3: You're doing great, You're doing a good job. But this

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Speaker 3: is only the first like five minutes though, right, No, we've.

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Speaker 9: Been at this for like about ten minutes so far. Okay,

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Speaker 9: we'll see. That's that's what you're afforded to keep you

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Speaker 3: You're doing a great job.

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Speaker 1: And I guess the most notable thing to mention at

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Speaker 1: the top here is that the familiar female voice you've

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Speaker 1: heard on the past few episodes, A quest love supreme.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Layah. She's officially part of our family now of

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Speaker 3: our show, the growing Yeah, the team grows. Uh, I

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Speaker 3: figured that we need uh sorry, what's brass? I've known

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Speaker 1: Since she since we were young and uh wait since

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Speaker 1: she was that No, you know she's my my comrade

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Speaker 3: Now I'm already regretting this. This this is welcome, like

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Speaker 6: Yes, sorry, I'm not good with compliments.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have to give you a nickname. Well, she

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Speaker 3: used to be Lady La Yah on Philadelphia.

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Speaker 6: It was just like, where do you see a lady?

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Speaker 6: Where was she at?

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Speaker 3: Were you not?

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Speaker 7: Lady?

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Speaker 6: Like's like two thousand syllables.

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Speaker 3: So what was your club name?

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Speaker 6: Like the other chip? But like, you know, no, this

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Speaker 3: Later worked in the daytime.

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Speaker 6: No, you don't make no money in the daytime at

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, because you have to think, like what kind

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Speaker 6: This is the gold club right right?

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying because you actually I fell

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Speaker 1: it's and realized, Oh ship, I just.

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Speaker 3: Wait, are we still on the air right now? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we are still on the air. We've been yanked off

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I went to college.

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Speaker 3: Everybody. Yeah, I was going to say, let's let's play

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Speaker 9: I've been working with Laya behind the scenes for several

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Speaker 9: weeks now. She's very very smart, very intelligent. We are

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Speaker 9: blessed to have ya No, no, no, no, no, let

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Speaker 9: me okay, you're just saying I'm lying, Well, yeah that

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Speaker 1: Pleasant now Liyas is actually uh Philadelphia radio h Royalty.

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Speaker 1: She's been You've been on radio in Philadelphia for least.

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Speaker 6: Eleven since I was eleven years No, I knew you

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Speaker 6: since you were twelve. No, I just don't want them

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Speaker 6: to know that I'm old. But yeah, that's fine. I've

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Speaker 3: Let's just keep it real, okay, Okay, yeah, yeah, you've

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Speaker 3: done a great job. That's why you're here.

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Speaker 10: I just want to mention y'all said something about Source

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Speaker 10: magazine not being valid, but it's still valid in twenty

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Speaker 10: So as long as that's still going on, Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: So I just want to get him to love shows

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Speaker 1: god damn show saying Wow, Pooty don't need no words,

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Speaker 1: Pooty don't need no meals, Pooty don't need no radio show.

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Speaker 3: Pooty No what Pooty do? Yo?

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Speaker 8: Pooty jang Oscar and Clifton File should get a Lifetime

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Speaker 8: Achieving Award DC.

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Speaker 1: Clifton Power. Dude, he's black excellence. Like he's one of

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Speaker 8: think was Pinky in Next Friday. He really just really

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Speaker 3: I mean fine time out front?

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Speaker 3: Now I have to analyze you.

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Speaker 1: information that it retains. I said that it is an

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Speaker 8: Oh no, I don't really smoke, no wheed like that

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Speaker 8: it was just one episode I had.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't doing that shit no moment. Well, wait, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to ask you something because this is what I learned.

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Speaker 1: Haven't recently just visited uh Maui where the speed limit

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Speaker 1: the average speed limit thirty five? Oh shit, thirty five.

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Speaker 1: Like it would be like something where it's like, okay,

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Speaker 3: and you gotta drive thirty five.

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Speaker 1: And the logic was that it stops uh drunk driving

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Speaker 3: You know, that was one for my hypothesis that I

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Speaker 1: Yo, No, if you ain't got at least two feelings

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Speaker 3: I don't want her feeling. It's not gonna be good. No, it's.

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Speaker 6: It's just like what happens to women when they it's

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Speaker 3: Noah, it's it's I mean it's wings in it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So no bag is way better than come on, you

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Speaker 8: So so I'm just like, yo, this is bad. So

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Speaker 8: they cause, you know, it's like the fucking club. So man,

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Speaker 8: I finally get the food and I'm walking out and

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Speaker 3: Do it in the place truck. And I had to

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Speaker 1: This was like when I was a really broke nigga,

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Speaker 3: Man. That was the most concentrated shit I had to

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Speaker 7: And I got it.

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Speaker 8: And you know, I remember driving home and man, the

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Speaker 3: And I made it home and I busted down them

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Speaker 3: that was it. I got contact from.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, that coffee tall looks.

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Speaker 11: You should just move to walking distance from the wildflouse

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 1: Research every time I go there, I try to figure out, uh,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you can get them scattered some other covered chunk

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I I mean I know

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Speaker 3: get everything my mind. Oh you what you get on yours?

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Speaker 3: What on your cheese? And everything to I go full throttle.

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Speaker 3: Oh damn, but I only do like a quarter of it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know I'm one of those like I'm in

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Speaker 1: orders everything and this does a little bit of each

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Speaker 8: Food and then but then but see wilfle House they

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Speaker 8: done upgraded a formula bro. So now wait what they

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Speaker 8: done upgrade at the formula They messed with it.

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Speaker 1: Nah they brother, So now what they used to they

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Speaker 1: used to just have the regular waffles, just the regular

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Speaker 3: But now they got the new joint they do. They'll

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Speaker 3: do you a strawberry waffer.

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Speaker 8: They put a little strawberry like little something some cancer

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, oh boy, Wow, we really do need to

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Speaker 3: go to wilf House.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be after that cancer comment. We really

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Speaker 3: Yeah that was that.

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Speaker 8: Did you see that story about the girls that was

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Speaker 8: got the waffle house? I don't think they got to

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Speaker 8: shut down. They were fired the girls that was doing

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Speaker 8: There was a did you get your hair died? Well

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Speaker 6: There are so many world Star videos a by waffle

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Speaker 10: It's a lot, a lot's go down because it's twenty

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Speaker 3: It's twenty four hours. But I got a imagine they

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Speaker 8: Profit margins are the highest from the hours of like

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Speaker 3: I'm just thinking.

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, dude, because like if you go eating

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Speaker 3: Wait is more for the day wait time time out, really,

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Speaker 1: Because because for us, like when we was coming up,

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Speaker 3: No I don't.

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Speaker 1: It's not just like set up punchline, set up punchline like.

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Speaker 3: Thing ever, except they're all like real.

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Speaker 1: They're the most painful, realist, most insecure, most pie in

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Speaker 1: But the way he delivers it makes it so relatable,

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Speaker 3: And he's made two.

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Speaker 1: Movies that I really feel that are important, I guess

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Speaker 3: They speak to all areas of life.

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Speaker 1: I'm speaking of a Sleepwalk with Me and I'm speaking

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Speaker 1: of his newest film, Don't Think Twice. And our guest

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, please give it up for Mike Burbiglia.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, guys, Welcome to Quest Love Supres. How's it going.

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Speaker 7: I'm good, I'm good. I'm uh, I'm I'm psyched that

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Speaker 7: you like the movie. And I was just I was

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Speaker 7: talking to Bill before him because he I ran into

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Speaker 3: Not to be confused with boss Ball, okay, and.

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Speaker 7: I ran into you at I'm forgetting the name of

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Speaker 2: I was in a group. I still I guess. I

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Speaker 2: still am in a group called Freestyle of Supreme sounds

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Speaker 2: a lot like Quest Surprises a Bound, So I played it.

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Speaker 2: I played and still play. I guess in a hip

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Speaker 2: hop improv comedy group where we get suggestions from the

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Speaker 2: on sort of to create Hamilton the musical. They are

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Speaker 7: Was that a Battle of the no I was just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know each other, but.

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Speaker 7: Then a few months ago I ran into these guys

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Speaker 7: I was like, hey, Lynn, I think you'll like this

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Speaker 7: movie I made. It's probably a little bit like your life.

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Speaker 7: Little did I know that it was, and Bill was

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Speaker 7: part of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I watched the movie today, Don't Think Twice an

444
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Speaker 2: incredible film and.

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Speaker 4: Was and.

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Speaker 2: That's a whole lot like my life straight up.

447
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Speaker 7: And what a meir. You and I were texting last night.

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Speaker 7: Who do you relate to most in the movie?

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Speaker 1: I mean, in the beginning, I thought I was Jack,

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Speaker 1: but then I thought then I thought maybe I was

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Speaker 1: your character, Miles. Yeah, because what I don't want to

452
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Speaker 1: be is I don't want to be the character that

453
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Speaker 1: doesn't realize that the party's over and the lights are out.

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Speaker 3: Can we kind of give them an overview?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah. So the gist of it is like, it's

456
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Speaker 7: a movie about a bunch of best friends in like

457
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Speaker 7: an improv comedy group, and they've been together for years

458
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Speaker 7: and then one of them gets a chance to be

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Speaker 7: on like a Saturday night Live type of show, and

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Speaker 7: the rest of them don't. And it's about That's why

461
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Speaker 7: we're talking about in relation to breakups, because it's what

462
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Speaker 7: happens when not everybody makes it in the same way

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Speaker 7: like Michael, like Michael Jackson for example, Wait side.

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Speaker 1: Note, because I'm gonna I'm gonna interrupt with small, meaningless

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Speaker 1: questions here, all right? Similar to Nike's font, Yeah, does

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Speaker 1: does Broadway Video own that Weekend Live?

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Speaker 3: Funt?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 7: They don't know that font? That fun?

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Speaker 3: How did you guys master that fund? Because that was

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Speaker 3: fun impressive that font.

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Speaker 7: We went through fonts and were like, yeah, that's similar

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Speaker 7: to sarent.

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Speaker 9: Live, but it's not the same, okay, And it's funny

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Speaker 9: you asked that question because I was wondering the same

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Speaker 9: thing while I was watching.

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Speaker 3: Well you know what. You were like, Yo, y'all nail

478
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Speaker 3: this perfectly?

479
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Speaker 7: And who was I was over its as Myers one day,

480
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Speaker 7: like when I was in prep for the movie and

481
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Speaker 7: we're doing all the production design stuff. Were're trying to

482
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Speaker 7: make it look like SARENT live. And I was walking

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Speaker 7: in to the hallways he you know, Causeth Myers is

484
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Speaker 7: literally down the hall from SNL. I was walking in

485
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Speaker 7: just like taking photos with my phone and the security guard.

486
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Speaker 7: I was like, hey, get out, you can't take photos,

487
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Speaker 7: and I was like, I got what I need?

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Speaker 3: And who was your fake dom Pardo? That was me?

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Speaker 7: I did you were the Yeah? But like, but what's

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Speaker 7: funny about it is and that's what I don't mind

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Speaker 7: talking about. It's like if if at Saren life suit us,

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Speaker 7: it would be literally the best thing that could have

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Speaker 7: ever happen. It's like when Al Frankin wrote that movie,

494
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Speaker 7: that book about fox News, the lying Liars, lies in

495
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Speaker 7: the lying liars that tell them, and then fox News

496
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Speaker 7: sued him, and before that it wasn't on the bestseller list,

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Speaker 7: and then because of that it ended up on the

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Speaker 7: best So anyway, I'm hoping it's a hit.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess for those that have yet to

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Speaker 1: see it, I really feel like this could be my

501
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Speaker 1: big fat Greek wedding tortoise in the hair success story,

502
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Speaker 1: little train that could movie. I hope so, because this

503
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Speaker 1: is everyone's story and for me, the bottom line, I'm

504
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Speaker 1: obsessed with why people clearly.

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Speaker 3: Choose to ruin a good thing?

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Speaker 1: Why do they self sabotage like I can name about

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Speaker 1: and I'm probably one of them. I can name at

508
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Speaker 1: least thirty people in my life that kind of have.

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Speaker 1: If you're familiar with SNL trivia, you know the Final

510
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Speaker 1: Jeopardy where Trebek and Sean Connery are kind of going

511
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Speaker 1: at each other, and you know, Final Jeopardy is like

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Speaker 1: the answer is to All you have to say is

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Speaker 1: the answers to and then the next thing, you know,

514
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Speaker 1: the best analogy right, and then they will say.

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Speaker 3: Like Michigan, that's the answer for me.

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Speaker 1: The moment where I realized that this wasn't the average

517
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Speaker 1: film was was when uh Jie Gillian's character clearly didn't go,

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Speaker 1: you know, to the audition to become a star, which

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Speaker 1: he clearly could have been one.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, how.

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Speaker 1: How did you even have the insight to go into

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Speaker 1: that psychological level where to know that happens.

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Speaker 7: I feel like I know a lot of people who've

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Speaker 7: done that over the years, who have like who you're like,

525
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Speaker 7: you know how there's always the people you're like, yeah,

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Speaker 7: Eddie Murphy's good, but the real guy was always like

527
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Speaker 7: the real guy was this other dude.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah. For every Jordan on the court, there's

529
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Speaker 3: like seven other and one that could have. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: That was the thing that was like the joke was,

531
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Speaker 8: how did Eddie Murphy end up on Saturday Night Live?

532
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Speaker 8: And because Charlie Burnett couldn't read.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's the actual guy I never named the a

534
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Speaker 7: street performer.

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Speaker 8: He was a street performer in DC. And he's the

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Speaker 8: guy who pretty much kind of who Chappelle used to watch.

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Speaker 8: And he's in DC Cab. I don't know if you've seen,

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Speaker 8: I've seen he's in.

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Speaker 3: He was like that.

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Speaker 8: He's one of the guys DC Cab. But like, I mean,

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Speaker 8: drugs everything. But he was a street performer. He died

542
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Speaker 8: in like late eighties, don't want to say, but he

543
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Speaker 8: was like the man, he was the dude, but he

544
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Speaker 8: couldn't read.

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Speaker 3: Wow, so you just sabotaged it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's I mean, there's a million guys of the

547
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Speaker 7: seller like that. You guys you see all the time,

548
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Speaker 7: literally the funny student. You're like, how come that person

549
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Speaker 7: is not the most famous comic.

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Speaker 1: This is what I learned about at least my five

551
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Speaker 1: years of kind of being the New Yorker and and

552
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Speaker 1: scoping the comedy scene, which I do obsessively more than

553
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Speaker 1: musicians and more than chefs, Like comedians are a strange,

554
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: strange animal I'm now realizing that humor is used as

555
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Speaker 1: a means to deflect what the real problem is going inside.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't realize that until I started hanging out

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Speaker 1: at the cellar regularly. And there's the time period where,

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Speaker 1: like I started working for Schumer, she kind.

559
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Speaker 3: Of showed me the ropes. And the thing was, it

560
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Speaker 3: was at the very beginning of her slow rise.

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Speaker 1: By that point, she was just doing you know, her

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Speaker 1: Comedy Central specials, and the show wasn't even thought about then.

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Speaker 1: Once the show started to develop, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: I would ask her like obsessively, like, Okay, so do

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Speaker 1: you feel a pressure now?

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like you have to bring everyone with you?

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Speaker 3: Do you feel as though like you know, yeah?

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Speaker 7: And she kind of has.

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Speaker 3: I'm amazing.

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Speaker 7: It's ridiculous. People she puts on her show. We're in

571
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Speaker 7: the comedy scene.

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Speaker 3: She's she's like a more organized allan Iverson.

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Speaker 7: Oh wow, how she does Amy Schumer like a more organized.

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Speaker 1: Because okay, as a Philadelphian and as the season ticket

575
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Speaker 1: holder to the Sixers, you know, especially during the period

576
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Speaker 1: of allan ivers I've never seen someone like literally carry

577
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Speaker 1: the weight of his family behind that be cousins and

578
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Speaker 1: like he would have cousins in the third tier, extended

579
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Speaker 1: friends in the second tier, family members in the first year,

580
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Speaker 1: like and that's when I learned.

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Speaker 3: Like, oh no, I never want to be the person that.

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Speaker 1: Has to like you can't take them all with you,

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Speaker 1: and so you either are gonna have the crew of

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Speaker 1: the posse that you have to take care of, or

585
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Speaker 1: you roll by yourself. Now I personally choose to roll

586
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Speaker 1: by myself, to the chagrine of a lot of people

587
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Speaker 1: in my life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's it's you know, damned if you do,

589
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Speaker 3: damn it if you don't. But you know, I.

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Speaker 1: Can't figure out how like at the Comedy Celler, at

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Speaker 1: least can you explain what the what that environment is

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Speaker 1: like there?

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Speaker 7: When I started at the Cellar, it was in like

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Speaker 7: two thousand and two, and it actually was I think

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Speaker 7: much even tougher then, Like it was like Colin Quinn.

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Speaker 7: It was around the time Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn

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Speaker 7: was on Comedy Central. So it was like Colin Quinn

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Speaker 7: and Nick DePaolo, Greg Giraldo and Patrese, who was like

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Speaker 7: do you know Patrise, I mean like Pres O'Neill's you know,

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Speaker 7: one of the.

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Speaker 3: Greats and like.

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Speaker 7: Just I mean, those guys were tough on each other.

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Speaker 7: Like Patrice could make you want to crawl under a ross. No,

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Speaker 7: he used to how he addressed you, big head, Leah,

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Speaker 7: you got the biggest head that literally he would do

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Speaker 7: that for a half hour. He was he was a

607
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Speaker 7: mean guy. But but yeah, I know. So there's a

608
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Speaker 7: lot of like survival and and people going at each other.

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Speaker 7: And I was, I mean, I never thrived in that environment.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I I still play there. I love the Cellar,

611
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Speaker 7: but like I never you know, I never got into

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Speaker 7: that culture.

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Speaker 1: So I'm saying I'm noticing in at least the New

614
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Speaker 1: York comedy world, there's three avenues you can choose uh

615
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Speaker 1: kind of above uh twenty third Street, like sort of

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Speaker 1: like to midtown Manhattan. I don't know if like what

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Speaker 1: you would call that area, but that's where like more

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Speaker 1: mainstream comedy is. And Okay, I don't know if people

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Speaker 1: necessarily aspire to be there. I would think that those

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Speaker 1: that kind of thrive at that.

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Speaker 3: Particular strip could also play Vegas.

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Speaker 7: The Carolines.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you would call like a David

624
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Speaker 3: Brenner type or that sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: But then over in Brooklyn, Yeah, I'm discovering little Field

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Speaker 1: Union Hall, alternative house.

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00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of the snobby millennials. And then there's that's.

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Speaker 7: What I like. But it's I like to performing there.

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00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 7: But it's just like performing for your friends. So you're

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Speaker 7: doing stand up.

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Speaker 3: There's no there's no challenge, no challenge to it at all.

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Speaker 7: It's it's like people like minded people. And that's why

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Speaker 7: I like The Seller is great because it's like a

634
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 7: lot of tourists, it's people from all over the place.

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Speaker 7: It's just like it's it's actually hard to kill at

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Speaker 7: the Seller. Really, it's pretty hard unless you're really feeling

637
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Speaker 7: like if you're Schumer or you're as He's like you're

638
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Speaker 7: famous and people are psyched that you're there.

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Speaker 3: People.

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Speaker 1: Do you think people come there to sort of stargaze

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Speaker 1: and I think that's yeah, there's a lot of just

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00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: hoping for that night that Louis.

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00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, does that also?

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Speaker 1: Does that think for a bad set for you? Like

645
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: has someone ever just butted in line, like oh, Eddie

646
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: Murphy wants to do and then.

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Speaker 3: Like you have to go on afterwards or.

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Speaker 7: I remember I was on stage once for two minutes

649
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 7: and I got the light and I'm like, what the fuck.

650
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 7: I look over and it's Robin Williams.

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00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when Patch Adams want to get on, we

652
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Speaker 1: got missed out for coming up.

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Speaker 3: You gotta just cut that short.

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00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 7: I was so mad, though I was good, you know,

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Speaker 7: it's twenty five or whatever. I had an attitude. I

656
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 7: thought I was better than I was. I was like, fuck,

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Speaker 7: Robin Williams, who's that?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 8: Walked off one of the things with your movie Man

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Speaker 8: another movie I kind of saw parallel, So I don't

661
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Speaker 8: know if you saw it inside.

662
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 7: Lewin Davis, Oh yeah, yeah, definitely.

663
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 8: It very much reminded me of that, just in the

664
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 8: sense of you have a person where you just realize

665
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 8: what do you do with the realization that it's just

666
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 8: not gonna happen, and you just have those characters. It's

667
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 8: just like, look, dude, I know you thought you were

668
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 8: that guy, but you're not that fucking guy. Have you

669
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 8: ever felt like that?

670
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 3: I mean, first, I think you're very funny. Why did

671
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 3: you make yourself that character? Yeah?

672
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 2: For real?

673
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 3: Not for real, because in my head I thought you

674
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: were gonna be the chosen one.

675
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 7: I thought no, and I my buddy, you know, your Matakone. Yeah,

676
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 7: he's a buddy who wrote for us and l for

677
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 7: a lot of years, and he gave notes in the

678
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 7: script and he's a friend of mine, and he he

679
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 7: was like, you gotta play Jack. And I was like,

680
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 7: you gotta play Keegan's character. And I was like, no, No,

681
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 7: I'm not talented enough to play You don't understand, like

682
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 7: you need somebody who is so good that they're undeniable

683
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 7: and on the screen you're like, when you're watching, you're like, oh,

684
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 7: it's gotta be him, because that's the guy who would

685
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 7: get it, because Keagan would have gotten it had he

686
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 7: not gone to Mad TV. You got asked to do

687
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 7: Mad TV before US, and no, Wow, So then what

688
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 7: good for his life? Because then that's where he met

689
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 7: Jordan Peel and they made one of the greatest sketch

690
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 7: comedy shows.

691
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: Of all time, I think, but talk about and Michael Key.

692
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, kee and Michael Key. But uh but yeah. So

693
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 7: that's why I played Miles, which is the bitter guy,

694
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 7: which is I don't I'm not like Miles.

695
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 3: But I also I'm.

696
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 7: Pretty good at wearing bitterness.

697
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 3: You're petty.

698
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 7: I just I don't know if I'm I don't know

699
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 7: if I'm petty, but like when I do it, people

700
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 7: believe it.

701
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 3: We're petty, all right? This is the petty hour question

702
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: of Supreme. Yeah, we're here with Mike Big. Is pettiness

703
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: a positive character trait? I don't think so.

704
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: Man, I realized it's wrong, but I can I wear

705
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: proud like like a like a scarlet letter that I'm

706
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: happy about.

707
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 7: But you're such a son of a bitch if you're petty,

708
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 7: because there's so many people who are jealous of you,

709
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 7: and so.

710
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: I want to be like everybody. But I think it's relative.

711
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: The grass is greener on the other side. Yeah, I mean,

712
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: because and that was the thing I like watching the movie.

713
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: I didn't want to say. I mean, I think we

714
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: could preto much tell people what happened. I mean we won't.

715
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 8: I wouldn't do it, but it's still I think we

716
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 8: wouldn't be spoiling anything because the way the story is told,

717
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 8: it's I mean, to me, the magic was in the

718
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 8: way you told the story, not necessarily in just the

719
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 8: details themselves. But the thing is, if we're too self

720
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 8: aware of what character we are, like it's sex in

721
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 8: the city, and I feel like.

722
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: I feel like we're all miles.

723
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,479
Speaker 1: It's been different parts. I feel like I've been that guy.

724
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: I've been every person at different points in my career.

725
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: I've been I've been every character in that movie.

726
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel we're so lucky.

727
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 6: I can't wait to be Jack, like I was watching

728
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 6: that movie, like, I know everybody.

729
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 9: Struggle, but yet my Jack moments may have not been

730
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 9: live moments, but even moments where you definitely want more

731
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 9: so than right.

732
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well, can I get personal with your situations?

733
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: No cut card over here, baby, let's go all right.

734
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying that who whose character did you

735
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: relate to? I could relate to all of them when

736
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: you watch the film. Did you see your own group

737
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: in this situation?

738
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Okay.

739
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 8: There were definitely moments and not necessarily in the group

740
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 8: between me, Pool and Ninth, you know, for you know,

741
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 8: just to give them back story.

742
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 3: I was in a group called Little Brother.

743
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: A very influential group that kind of you know, a

744
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: lot of the today's mega you know, mega winners in

745
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: the hip hop game always referred to as like one

746
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: of their favorite groups.

747
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: Definitely one of my favorite groups.

748
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that's why he's here because we love the

749
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: ship out a little brother when he came out and.

750
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 3: So thank you man. So the group was me.

751
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 8: I was an EMC, my partner Big Pool, and I

752
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 8: produced a ninth Wonder who you know went on to

753
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 8: produce like major artists jay Z, Beyonce. Uh, I mean,

754
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 8: just you know do it this really big records. And

755
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 8: so for me, when me and Poo first started, we

756
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 8: had the conversation that listen, if you study hip hop,

757
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 8: you know the producer always goes on to do more,

758
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 8: and you want that to happen.

759
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

760
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 8: You know your man is talented. You want him to

761
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 8: go on and go and do and and go forth.

762
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 8: So between me and him, it was cool when when

763
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 8: Knife got the jay Z Look, we came up here

764
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 8: the baseline, met jay Z. I mean that was surreal,

765
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying because I remember being.

766
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: In the dorm with that dude. You came up the baseline. Yeah, yeah,

767
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: because we mixed the Miser Show on Baseline.

768
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 3: Wow, we met and we like that.

769
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 8: One day we met Jay he was just there and

770
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 8: he played us threats from the Black album and so yeah, man,

771
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 8: So for me to see that journey of me and

772
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 8: Knife being in the dorm together and him looking at like,

773
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 8: you know, the Source and us him looking at you know,

774
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 8: executive Bruce by DJ Premier, and I'm saying, like, yo, man,

775
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 8: one day I'm gonna have that executive producer ninth wander

776
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 8: Like that's gonna be me to see him go from

777
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 8: that to you know, jay Z. That was amazing to me,

778
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 8: and I wasn't I couldn't have been happier for him.

779
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 8: Where the disconnect was was in a lot of people

780
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 8: in our camp that really felt like we left them behind,

781
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying, and felt that, Okay, well

782
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 8: the Knife, if you did it with Jay, why didn't

783
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 8: you do it for me and this person, this person,

784
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 8: this person, this person, And it's kind of like what

785
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 8: you were saying, you know, you can't save everybody. And

786
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 8: so for me, my moment where I kind of felt

787
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 8: that Jack moment was then when Minstrel Show, when we

788
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 8: got you know, four and a half mics in the source.

789
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 3: At the time, the source was still kind of.

790
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: Right now, four and a half mice is four and

791
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: a half mic, Yeah, yeah, you know, you got four

792
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: and a half mics, and so which was the perfect

793
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: five was what you could get, but it was a

794
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: really reputable rating. So that was my I guess my

795
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: jack moment where I had my uh the girl that

796
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: left the Samantha Samantha, she's the one that didn't go to.

797
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 8: Gill Okay where I had my gillion moment and not

798
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 8: necessarily a self sabotaged moment, but just where you know,

799
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 8: the scene where she was like, yo, I'm good in

800
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 8: the world. You know, that was kind of when Drake happened,

801
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 8: because that was when everybody was like, yo, hey, you

802
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 8: Drake is the dude that you influenced. He big, Drake

803
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 8: was biging me up. Oh take my favorite rapper and

804
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 8: all this shit. And it was just like people were like, yo, man,

805
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 8: you could come and you could do him, and you

806
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 8: need to come for Drake. He stole your styliness. And

807
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 8: I was just like, dude, listen, Oh they.

808
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 3: Want you to come fromhim. Oh my god, are you serious? Dude?

809
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 6: Oh?

810
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: I thought, see, I know battling, No, I know, battling

811
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: is a thing in hip hop, but I'm always like,

812
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: that's pity that would be I thought like it was

813
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: a thing of like work with Drake, it was. It

814
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: was work with dra It started as like work with Drake,

815
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: but then there's always that small candure of people that.

816
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 3: Are like, nah, you need to come and we want

817
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: you to you know, we want you to do it

818
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 3: because you could be the man.

819
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 8: And so my thing was just like, look, man, kind

820
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 8: of like with that character, I'm good where I am

821
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 8: if I My whole theory is like, look, if you're

822
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 8: gonna pull a coupe and try to throw over the government, right, Okay,

823
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 8: if you're gonna replace throw that dude out, then the

824
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 8: government that you put in place needs to be as

825
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 8: good or better than the government you out did.

826
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 3: Else the people gonna come for your fucking head next,

827
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

828
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 1: So my thing is like, look, dude, I'm not done

829
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: to quote unquote come for uh you know, Drake or whoever,

830
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna.

831
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 3: Serve his audience the way that he is.

832
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm not about to hop on fifty eleven goddamn remixes

833
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: with the hot drug dealer nigga of the moment do

834
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: this and do the audun like and I'm not knocking that,

835
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: but I ain't gonna do that shit. Man at thirty

836
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: six years old, nigga.

837
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 3: You serious. I really had no clue.

838
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: I like, maybe you do a record like Kanye did

839
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: this record with y'all. Yeah, we did a record like

840
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: way back Yeah, I mean, and we may do one

841
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: in the future.

842
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 3: I don't know. You did a record with Drake? We

843
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 3: did we had back in the day.

844
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: We did a record with him like that would be

845
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: back in the I guess it betray your movie. It

846
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: would be the equivalent of we did Sleep on Right

847
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: to Sleep Right, but then once the ship really.

848
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: Popped, we didn't, you know, do nothing Post Oranges the.

849
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: New Black.

850
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 3: Big temp did he He was the new phone? Who

851
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 3: is phone? What's good? Man?

852
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: My fault?

853
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 3: So now that was my moment. Man, I it really

854
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: hit a chord with me.

855
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 8: So for me, I'm just in a place whereas many

856
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 8: with with I really related to that character Gillion, because

857
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 8: I think she and I wanted to ask you about

858
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 8: that man, Because to me, I didn't see it as

859
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 8: sabotaged by her not going I talked I would again.

860
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 8: I looked at it as a person knowing their own

861
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 8: limitations and just knowing, like you know what, I know

862
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 8: I could do this, but if I do this, I'm

863
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 8: gonna suck it up, so let me just not like,

864
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 8: I don't have it in me to do this.

865
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 3: That was that was my interpretation of it.

866
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 6: Or she just didn't want it. She didn't want it.

867
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 7: I think she didn't.

868
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 6: She just didn't want it.

869
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 10: She didn't She felt like it was a sellout moment.

870
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 10: She said about like she was like compromising.

871
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 3: Sound good on this, lily Pad, Like I'm good on this,

872
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: lily Pad. I'm really straight.

873
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 6: I know you don't like this.

874
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying it's selling out real. Well, I don't

875
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: think selling out is real.

876
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 7: Now.

877
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 3: I don't think it's no more. I don't think it exists.

878
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 3: Oh if y'all could just see no.

879
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait, wait wait, because right now we're on radio,

880
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: so no one can see. I've never collectively see. I've

881
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: never collectively seen like all these teeth look at me

882
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: like scratching their head. Is selling out real?

883
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 7: I think it is, y I think it is.

884
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 3: I think it is, But I don't think it.

885
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 9: I mean, back in the eighties and the nineties, when

886
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 9: you know, no Cell was this whole big thing real, Yeah,

887
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 9: when that whole thing was around, it was it was.

888
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 9: It was a different kind of situation because I don't

889
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 9: even know why I'm talking to I don't know where I'm.

890
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: Going with this.

891
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: No, but no opportunities weren't there the opportunities like ll

892
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: like LL he would say, like, you know, back in

893
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: the day, we would say, yo, fucking doing the movies

894
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: and fucking doing this because we never thought it was

895
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: possible to.

896
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 3: But then happened exactly, and then he in the house,

897
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 3: so you know what I mean, Like it's in the house.

898
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 3: This is all right. Look, no, I don't be out either.

899
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: But let's let's take a cat like Miles Davis, who

900
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: has constantly made a career out of, uh building a

901
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: house and burning it down. Okay, I mean, he's totally

902
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: defined what jazz music is at least four or five times,

903
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: which is impossible, Like some people are lucky to change

904
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: music once, let alone five times. But then there was

905
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: a point where, uh, when I was reading his book

906
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: and just studying like a lot of his uh uh

907
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: late sixties mid seventies performances, where he you know, turned

908
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: this back to the audience, and you know, he had

909
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: this sort of uh wishy washy uh kind of middle

910
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: finger attitude towards his audience. And initially, of course, growing up,

911
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: I thought, oh man, that's cool, like you know, like

912
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: you know, he stands for something, he stands for principles.

913
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: But there's a period where I just started reading so

914
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: many psychology books and whatever, and then I realized, like.

915
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 3: Uh, you're scared of rejection. So it's like me before

916
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 3: you can Yeah, I'm yeah, I'm gonna reject you first

917
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 3: before years like eight Mile the fucking Bunny Rabbit Ship. Yeah.

918
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 3: And I don't I don't. I think that that the

919
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 3: idea of I'm not saying that integrity is not real.

920
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: But if we were really artists, artists with the Athian

921
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: or you know, slash, if we were all, we all

922
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: be performing free on the streets.

923
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 3: Like all of us in this room are business people,

924
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 3: whether we admit it.

925
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 6: Or no, to be able to get the energy to perform.

926
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 3: So I think that I don't know, I just I

927
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 3: don't believe in selling out.

928
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm not using that this excuse like okay, well, whoever

929
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: has the next big check, I'm there for it.

930
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 10: Like I.

931
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: Okay, I guess I turned down the biggest check of

932
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: my life like two weeks ago because.

933
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: I didn't believe in what I was being paid to you.

934
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: I guess you got to understand the difference, right, It's

935
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: like there's selling out and cashing in, you know what

936
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: I mean. It's like, I'm not selling out, I'm cashing in.

937
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: So it's like to me, cashing in is like, look,

938
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: if I'm questlove or if I'm unpaid bill, if I

939
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: got if y'all motherfuckers is willing to give me a

940
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: check to do what it is I already do that

941
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: I love doing.

942
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 7: That's you know what I'm saying.

943
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: It's like I'm getting paid for what the fuck I do,

944
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: But if you ask me to change up the way

945
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: I do exactly. For instance, for example, like Premiere, like

946
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 1: me and you know, we were talking DJ Premiere legendary

947
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: DJ one half gangst all that he had an opportunity.

948
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 8: He was telling me he had an opportunity to do

949
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 8: the Grammys with Janet. This is back in the nineties.

950
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 3: Yeah together again. Yeah, she had.

951
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: He had the chance to perform on it with her.

952
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 1: But they wanted him to act like he was DJing.

953
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 3: It wasn't live. They wanted to pull a fat boy

954
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: slim yeah exactly.

955
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: They wanted him to be fucking lip DJ in so

956
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 1: she wanted the credibility factor. Yeah, she wanted the credibility,

957
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: but he was like, but she wanted you know, I

958
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: mean it's pop so everything is synchronized to the minute.

959
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 3: And he was trying to tell her like, look, I

960
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 3: can do it live. This is what I do.

961
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna suck up, and she was just like, look,

962
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 8: I can't leave it a chance. So he was walked

963
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 8: away from the gig. So to me, like I would

964
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 8: I would have did it because you.

965
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 7: Do that.

966
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 6: I'll do it now.

967
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 3: I've done soul training, I've done won't you. But I think,

968
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 3: but I think with you man on next week's show.

969
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: I think with you man, you like twenty thirty years

970
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: in the game, so your creat is solidified.

971
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 3: See.

972
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: But that's that's overthinking the situation. And that's the number

973
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: one thing that self saboteurs do. They overthink. If you

974
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: knew the amount of hours I've wound up in the

975
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: hospital myself trying to take care of other saboteurs.

976
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 3: No, I'm no, not not bullshitting you. The amount of

977
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 3: talking them off the lege.

978
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: I say, my number one quote for if there was

979
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: some sort of like tally of all a mere quotes

980
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: for the year.

981
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 3: I'm certain that, dude, you're overthinking it.

982
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: I have to say that so many times to people

983
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: just to get them down to the first floor again,

984
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 1: because once they it inside their head, it's no escape

985
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: because the thing is okay, let's let's take premium situation.

986
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 7: Now.

987
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 3: Who would be the judge and a jury that would say,

988
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 3: oh my yo, Bill Premiere, it's not DJing Live. But again,

989
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 3: I'm but this is ninety this is no he worked.

990
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 3: He did that Janet remix?

991
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 9: Uh was it.

992
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 3: Right?

993
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: Was it?

994
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 3: Ticket? No? No, no, no, no, this is before. I

995
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 3: don't want to I don't want to be history or whatever.

996
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: It was, like, okay, the earlier, the earlier Janet, the

997
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: even more I would have been like, oh, finally, like

998
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: we made it.

999
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 3: Like I would have cheered that one of us got in,

1000
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 3: you know, not like oh.

1001
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: He's selling out because he's not plugged in, like it's

1002
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: it's overthinking.

1003
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 6: It record so he already made it.

1004
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, even I'm just saying that whatever

1005
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: the situation, if he produced her, didn't produce her, or whatever,

1006
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: the whole the whole point of it was that she

1007
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: wanted I mean, okay, she was drinking from his milkshake.

1008
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 3: She wanted some of that street cred and I drink

1009
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 3: your milkshake. Yeah, I'm just a straw yo, wait it up.

1010
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: Side note, side note, I cannot wait. I cannot wait

1011
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: till bunb is a guest on this show. So I

1012
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: can see these two out criteria and collection each other

1013
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: of movie trivia. Yeah, I think that's overthinking it.

1014
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 3: And a lot of our are artists are artists, they

1015
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 3: kind of just they. But you gotta have a line though,

1016
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I think like because everyone has a code. Yeah,

1017
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 3: you gotta have a cold man.

1018
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 8: And so my thing is just like again, cashing out

1019
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 8: versus cashing in versus selling out to me is only

1020
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 8: a out move if you do something that is against

1021
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 8: your principles. You know what I'm saying. That's against your

1022
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 8: core principles, whatever they may be. You know what I'm saying.

1023
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 8: So you know I will not betray my heart to

1024
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 8: quote you know a famous.

1025
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, made this damn room. Oh

1026
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 3: what that is?

1027
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: It's quashed up Suprema on Pandora And we're here with

1028
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 1: our guest, comedian Mike brobiglia Uh talking about his latest

1029
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,439
Speaker 1: movie don't think twice his amazing movie.

1030
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 7: By the way, can I say the tweet that has.

1031
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: Like yes, so right now Mike has discovered Afante's welcome.

1032
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 3: Can you just read like twenty of his KI. A

1033
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 3: lot of it is promo because I promote my record.

1034
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 7: Know no, but I like this promo. But I like it.

1035
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 7: My sophomore solo album, No News Is Good News will

1036
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 7: drop at the top of twenty seventeen. My workload this

1037
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 7: year is too hectic and I want to get it right.

1038
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 7: And I was like, oh, that's really nice. He's like

1039
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 7: leveling with his fans and he's like being on I

1040
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 7: don't know, it's like it's anti promotional because you're actually

1041
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 7: opening up and being like, I'm just a person. I'm

1042
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 7: trying my best.

1043
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, I gotta keep it real with him. You want

1044
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 8: to get in front of you, just go down a

1045
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 8: few tweets that just scroll scroll.

1046
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 3: I mean I've been chilling lately.

1047
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 1: I've been you know, if you'd caught me, like, oh

1048
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,959
Speaker 1: nine ten took a load when I was really going hard.

1049
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm a change man. I'm covered in the

1050
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 3: blood of Jesus.

1051
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 7: Who's like the who's like the Samantha, who's the gillions

1052
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 7: character in music? Who's who's like the greatest but never

1053
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 7: floaded live?

1054
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 3: Right?

1055
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: Ah, man, you're gonna make me call uh ah, all right,

1056
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: just just go to my go to my discocks page.

1057
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 1: Just go to my discocks page. And let's just assume

1058
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: that no, let's pick a number and maybe ninety. Of

1059
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: anyone I've ever worked with, I'll say this, with the

1060
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: exception of jay Z. Jay Z was probably one of

1061
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: the rare cats that, like, it was a pleasure to

1062
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: work with them. That's why I worked with him, not

1063
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 1: because like I saw like, oh a payday or finally

1064
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: like a way out of this crab barrel. You know,

1065
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: it's just that, you know the amount of times I've

1066
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: had to Jedi mind trick someone, like say, I'm working

1067
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: on a song with somebody and I feel as though,

1068
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, a particular like the one is where this

1069
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: particular thing is. Like battling over where the one is

1070
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: is like one of my main arguments with people. So

1071
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: it's to the point where I'll just naturally go to

1072
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: another count or whatever, just so that they'll, you know,

1073
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: they'll contrary and by nature will just go to the

1074
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: opposite place until they which is where you want them

1075
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: to be anyway, exactly exactly.

1076
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 3: With me, I don't want to hear them. Literally.

1077
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: My theory is that if the crash symbol and the

1078
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: kick go at the same time, that's that's the beginning

1079
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: of the sentence.

1080
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, all right. Now here's the thing though, I

1081
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 3: feel like we kind of tarantinoed you in this situation.

1082
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to build up to this movie,

1083
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: but it was so powerful. Yeah, no, man, serious, I

1084
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: had to talk about it. Yeah, Reglar, I kind of

1085
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: want to work backwards because even before don't think twice

1086
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: sleep walk with me. Yeah, when I saw it, even then,

1087
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: I thought like, oh man, this is awesome my life

1088
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: story like because you never, at least with hip hop,

1089
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: especially after nineteen ninety seven and music in general, there's

1090
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: this dividing line between the winners and the losers, where

1091
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: winners are celebrated.

1092
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 3: And the losers are forgotten about or never celebrated.

1093
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: To me, it was always good to see the working man,

1094
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: the blue collar working man. And you know in that film,

1095
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: you drive yourself.

1096
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I drive my mom's station wagon around.

1097
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: To tell us all the process of driving to your

1098
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: own gigs the especially tell me about the comedy condo.

1099
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, I can tell you I stayed.

1100
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 3: So every comedian stays in the comedy condo. Yeah.

1101
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 7: So the comedy condo usually means you'll have a comedy

1102
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 7: club in a town and like Nashville, Tennessee, and let's

1103
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 7: say and like Zany's Comedy Club of not making up

1104
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 7: that name. That's a real club in Nationale. It's pretty good.

1105
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 7: It's a really good club actually, And then the owner

1106
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 7: will be like, well, it's less expensive. If you can

1107
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 7: even imagine this, it's less expensive to buy a condo

1108
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 7: to have all the comedians stay in that condo. Then

1109
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 7: it would be to put them up in hotels. So

1110
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 7: there'll be the club and then to be like the

1111
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 7: comedy condo. And it's like it's always terrible. It's always

1112
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 7: like them some war stories.

1113
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 12: Man, No, just like you just end up in I

1114
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 12: don't know, like like sheets are horrible or yeah, you know,

1115
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 12: it's like yeah show and is it you by yourself

1116
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 12: or like.

1117
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 7: No, you're with like two other comics usually, so you're

1118
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 7: with like the the Nature Act or the in the

1119
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 7: MC and then uh yeah, I mean some of them,

1120
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 7: you know, some of them, You don't, I don't know,

1121
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 7: like I. What happened was is I was working the

1122
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 7: door at the DC Improv when I was in college.

1123
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 7: That's sort of how I broke in. And the first

1124
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 7: guy I ever opened for was Chappelle. Actually, Okay, and.

1125
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 3: So it's really true that he was fourteen.

1126
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 7: Fifteen, Yeah, so he was he was headlining that club.

1127
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 7: I was nineteen. He was like twenty three, twenty four.

1128
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 7: Half Baked was about to come out.

1129
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 3: Okay.

1130
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 7: What was fascinating about meeting Chappelle when he was that

1131
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 7: young is that he was and I I learned this

1132
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 7: trick from him because I do it now, Like people

1133
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 7: come up to me now and they're like, hey, I

1134
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 7: know you're from blah blah blah, and I'm like, I

1135
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 7: have a movie out right now. It's called Don't Think Twice.

1136
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 7: It's down the Street blah blah blah. Because I remember

1137
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 7: saying to Dave Chappelle, like, how do you go to

1138
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 7: a stand up? How do you do this? How do

1139
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 7: you do this? And he was like he would give me.

1140
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 7: He gave me advice, and then he would be like,

1141
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 7: my movie Half Bake's coming out four weeks and it's

1142
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 7: at the EA Street theater down the street and get

1143
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 7: all your friends to go, like there.

1144
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 2: Is you know.

1145
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 7: Chappelle is like, he's like Sam in the movie, but

1146
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 7: he's like Jack also, Like, if you think about it,

1147
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 7: he's got both of those in him. He's got insane

1148
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 7: amounts of integrity. But he also he is he does

1149
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 7: makes a fuck lot of money. He's a real businessman. No,

1150
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 7: you're just gonna shake your head.

1151
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 3: Yeah right, No, I won't say Sam, and I won't

1152
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 3: say Jack.

1153
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: Okay, he's Miles think I won't. Oh, I'm sorry forgive me.

1154
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: You're right, Sam, he's like Sam. Right, he's definitely Sam.

1155
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 7: He is Sam because he walked away from all that

1156
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 7: money Comedy Central. Yes, but he is like Jack in

1157
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 7: the sense that he's ambitious. He's an ambitious person. You

1158
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 7: don't write like nineteen hours of stand up and not

1159
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 7: be an ambitious person.

1160
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: It's just I don't Again, it's the voices I wish

1161
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: the world knew, Like I was one of those guys

1162
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: that like and I don't. Lately, I've been on this kick,

1163
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: like on social media about how important meditation is. Yeah,

1164
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: and I mean, the only thing I could logically say

1165
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: is that you know, if you look at Russell Simmons.

1166
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 3: In the eighties looking like a fifty year old, but see.

1167
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: Him now in the early yoga the early aughts, still

1168
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: looking like he might be forty nine fifty and he's

1169
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: approaching sixties. I wish everyone really knew the addiction and

1170
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: the magic of what meditation is and how it can

1171
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: really truly save your life. You know, there's a group

1172
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: of people in my life that overthink a lot of

1173
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: things and.

1174
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: Kind of.

1175
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's I think it's just the fear

1176
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 3: of failure or the fear of fumbling in public, you know.

1177
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: And I know we live in a kind of a

1178
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: social media world and whatever, which everything is documented and

1179
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: no one wants to, you know, try the process in

1180
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: front of the world watching them. But I just feel

1181
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: as though crucial the way that the way that was

1182
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: explained to me in a way that I truly understood

1183
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: how meditation works is of course, they use the MacBook

1184
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: pro analogy, which they said, okay, so whenever you get

1185
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: the rainbow wheel that you hate and you have like

1186
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: ninety five kajillion windows open on Safari, you know, what's

1187
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: the thing you do and you're like, well, you either

1188
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 1: forced quit or you reset, and breathing literally.

1189
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 3: Deep breathing literally.

1190
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: Slows your mind down and it closes all those windows

1191
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: and you make better decisions in life with a clear head,

1192
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: like where I am right now, my life with spend

1193
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: literally with fourteen.

1194
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 3: I mean, Boss Bill will tell you what a nightmare

1195
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 3: I am.

1196
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 5: I can latch all that too.

1197
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: This is why a thing called Team of Mirror exists

1198
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: because logical thinking is out the window with me, because

1199
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm busy trying to figure out, like, you know, which

1200
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: Wu Tang song is gonna go with which David Byrns

1201
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: song at next month's show, Like like that's the stuff

1202
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about. So it's I don't know what two

1203
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: plus two equals, Like there's some information that I'm gonna lose,

1204
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: and there's some information I'll retain and use. But I'm

1205
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: just saying that I really think that meditation is the answer.

1206
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: But I know it just sounds so cosmic and weird.

1207
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: And the way that your eyebrows are looking at me,

1208
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: like I don't know if you're full of shit or not.

1209
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 6: No, no, I'm totally agreeing. I just know it's awesome.

1210
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 10: That's my natural face and it's also like it takes

1211
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 10: sometimes to get to a certain age to get to

1212
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 10: that point. But you're totally right, And I know I

1213
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 10: don't say that to you often.

1214
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 2: But can I ask you a question? Can I ask

1215
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 2: you a question about that? Because we were talking before

1216
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 2: about about being a businessman versus selling out whatever, I

1217
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 2: feel like you you are saying that you're thinking about

1218
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 2: what song is next and whatever, But you're also a

1219
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 2: very like in tune business person. So it's not like

1220
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 2: you're completely vacated the other part of this because you don't.

1221
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 2: You're not just like in your creative world where you

1222
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 2: have noes. You're like, I'm not at all.

1223
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: Look the further the furthest I go with business. At least,

1224
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: my business thought is to make sure that I generate

1225
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: enough business so that my mama don't move into my house.

1226
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 3: So wait, Mike, can we start? I wasn't I wasn't

1227
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 3: kidding when I said that we were tarantinoing this. No, No,

1228
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 3: I want to start with your comic.

1229
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 7: So when I started out, I was working the door

1230
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 7: the comedy DC Improv, and I was opening for guys

1231
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 7: like I said Chappelle and like Brian Reagan Mitch Hebburg,

1232
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 7: David Tael, guys have come in there, you.

1233
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 3: Knew Mitch Hepberg.

1234
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow.

1235
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 6: What was he like?

1236
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 3: Man Like, how do you come up with so many?

1237
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 7: Just one?

1238
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 3: How?

1239
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 7: You know what he said? He said, I think that

1240
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 7: I think is really wise, which is he thinks that

1241
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 7: people undervalue daydreaming.

1242
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1243
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 7: You know, like just just sitting there just like thinking,

1244
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 7: write and step down.

1245
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 3: That's the best life.

1246
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot of times i'd i'd see Mitch somewhere,

1247
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 7: like i'd I remember opening for him once in Dayton, Ohio,

1248
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 7: That's where I met him, and then like years later

1249
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 7: I run I ran into him like in Montreal at

1250
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 7: festival and he was just like lying backstage before the show,

1251
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 7: listening to music, and it's with his headphones and he's

1252
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 7: just like lying on his back and everybody else is

1253
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 7: like networking talking to each other, and he was just

1254
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 7: like daydreaming like that's what he was all about. So

1255
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 7: people would be like, where does his thoughts come from?

1256
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 7: He's just always kind of lost in his thoughts and

1257
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 7: he'd write down, you know, write down everything.

1258
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 3: Wow, I've never heard of a person that does these

1259
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 3: nonsensical just or just these random he was unbelievable all

1260
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 3: over the place, you know, these these thoughts. So literally

1261
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 3: he was just write down.

1262
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 7: Just oh yeah, he had just like his wife, Lynn

1263
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 7: has just no piles and piles of notebooks and uh.

1264
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 7: One of one of the things that isn't even uh

1265
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 7: in one of his jokes is in his notebook it says,

1266
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 7: do you believe in Gosh?

1267
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 3: Really? Wow?

1268
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 7: So they did like a posthumous album of his stuff

1269
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 7: and they call it do you Believe in Gosh?

1270
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 3: Don't?

1271
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 7: Isn't that great?

1272
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 3: Where is that notebook?

1273
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 6: Now?

1274
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 7: She had all that up in their cab. They had

1275
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 7: a cabin in the woods and I think big Bear

1276
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 7: and that's where they lived, and and yes, she has

1277
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 7: all that stuff. It's pretty amazing. I when I met

1278
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 7: Mitch and Lynn it was Dayton, Ohio. Was at Jokers

1279
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 7: Comedy Club, which doesn't exist anymore, and I was trying

1280
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 7: to like socialize with them, and I mean I didn't

1281
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 7: know anybody. I was like, hey, do you guys want

1282
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 7: to go bowling? It is the dumbest thing. We were

1283
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 7: next to a bowling alley and they were like all right,

1284
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 7: and uh, And I was terrible. I'm nervous I'm like

1285
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 7: with my idol, Like I really idolized match, So you

1286
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 7: knew him by that point. I was just a fan

1287
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 7: of him, and then I was opening for him. It

1288
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 7: was like the most real thing in my life. And

1289
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 7: then I was just terrible of rolling like ones and zeros,

1290
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 7: and he said the funniest thing, he goes. I thought

1291
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 7: when you suggested that we go bowling, that you would

1292
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 7: be good at bowling.

1293
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 3: So so you working in DC. That was your introduction

1294
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 3: in comedy life. That was it? That was it. I mean,

1295
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 3: you weren't like the class clown at the age of ten,

1296
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 3: or I really wasn't.

1297
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 6: I was.

1298
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 7: I was always sort of like I always felt out

1299
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 7: of place. I always felt like when I when I

1300
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 7: would say the things that I was thinking about, people

1301
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 7: would just be like, Oh, that's that's what's weird, you know,

1302
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 7: and uh yeah. And then then but I I always

1303
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 7: thought I was funny, you know what I mean, Like

1304
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 7: it was one of those things like I think I'm

1305
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 7: very funny and they don't get it and that kind

1306
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 7: of thing. And then at a certain point I got

1307
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 7: on stage in college and and uh and it started

1308
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 7: to click. And in Sleepwalk with Me, I have that

1309
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 7: joke where I say, I'm my my girlfriend's starting to

1310
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 7: get the age where she's thinking about having kids, which

1311
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 7: is exciting because we're gonna have to break up. I

1312
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 7: don't want to have kids until I'm sure that nothing

1313
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 7: else good can happen in my life. And that was

1314
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 7: like the first time.

1315
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 3: That's the real that was.

1316
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 7: That was like the first time I made a joke

1317
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 7: on stage. And it's in Sleepwalk with Me. It's like

1318
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 7: this as a plot point, but like it was the

1319
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 7: first time where I said something was true and it

1320
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 7: was a joke at the same time. But that's comedy, right,

1321
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 7: and that's ended up being sort of what I what

1322
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 7: I do. But like that was the first time. Before that,

1323
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 7: I was like making jokes about cookie Monster, and then

1324
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 7: when I started making jokes about myself, it was better.

1325
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: But I'll say that your particular brand of comedy, especially

1326
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: at the time where I really became aware of you,

1327
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: you don't see many comedians on Broadway. Yeah, And so

1328
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: initially I was trying to figure out, well, okay, did

1329
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: you at least cut your teeth in Midtown? I was

1330
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what side of the fence you

1331
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: were on? Were you alternative Brooklyn. Were you the varsity

1332
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: letter of the seller or were you pre Hacksville, of

1333
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 1: Midtown or uptown?

1334
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 7: I had, I did my tone in all of those

1335
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 7: three worlds and the road.

1336
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 3: Can you please all three?

1337
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 7: Yeah? I mean I think ultimately you have to. I

1338
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,600
Speaker 7: mean it's a complex question, but you just have to

1339
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 7: be you, and it has to you have to get

1340
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 7: good enough that what you're doing can kind of work anywhere.

1341
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: Okay, So the joke has to work with the allt crowd, Yeah,

1342
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: with the I'm smarter than you Kyle's crowd of the

1343
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,759
Speaker 1: village and the hack the drunk hacks that might.

1344
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, although they're the hardest, of course. I mean that's

1345
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 7: why I like that. So I've never I early on,

1346
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,879
Speaker 7: I would always get these gigs in Jersey because nobody

1347
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 7: wanted to do them right, nobody wanted to work in Jersey.

1348
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 7: Sorry Jersey, but.

1349
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 3: No, I was gonna ask you. Now, I know Chris

1350
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 3: Rock's regiment and he chooses Jersey.

1351
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard, right, And yeah, he listed like four

1352
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: like before he starts in HBO Special whatever. He told

1353
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: me the five clubs that he chooses, like Place down South,

1354
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: place where only old people go. He's like, if I

1355
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: can survive the scrutiny and the heart, Like, so, what

1356
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: is your exercise process of So.

1357
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 7: Mine would be like I go to the cellar, I

1358
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 7: go to the I go to the Brooklyn rooms to

1359
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:42,640
Speaker 7: just like feel confident, to feel like, oh this work this.

1360
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 3: Do they embrace you or do they look like you

1361
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 3: might be a suit you might be.

1362
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 7: No in Brooklyn. In Brooklyn, they like me because they

1363
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 7: know I live in Brooklyn. I have a lot you know,

1364
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 7: there's a lot of local references or whatever. But and

1365
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 7: then and then I go to the cellar, go on

1366
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 7: the road to comedy clubs like I'll go to Charlie

1367
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 7: Goodnights and Raleigh or you know, Zanies and Nashville or

1368
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 7: that kind of thing, because ultimately, you want it to

1369
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 7: work everywhere, because you want it to be human, you know,

1370
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 7: the bottom line of everything is like hearing you guys

1371
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 7: talk about don't think twice and you're like, I'm Miles

1372
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 7: or I'm Jack or whatever, that's like gold for me.

1373
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 7: For me, that's like the biggest compliment. When you and

1374
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 7: I were texting last night and you're like this person

1375
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 7: in my life is like lindsay this person's like this,

1376
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 7: It's like, oh my god, it fucking worked, Like I

1377
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 7: can't believe it. It's working because you want it to

1378
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 7: be so human that people just see themselves in it.

1379
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 7: And that's what takes forever with stand up, that's what

1380
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 7: takes for It takes years with material, you know, to

1381
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 7: get it to that point.

1382
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 3: What takes it so long? Why is it takes so

1383
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 3: long to find that instead of I just.

1384
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 7: Think because you you have to do this thing of

1385
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 7: simultaneously having people see themselves in it and laugh and

1386
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 7: laughter is just like you either get something, get to laugh,

1387
01:10:58,160 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 7: or it doesn't.

1388
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 2: How's the stand up process versus the movie screenplay process different?

1389
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 7: Well, for me, it's similar because I I write a

1390
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 7: lot with the screenplay and then I would have friends

1391
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 7: over like this, like literally, like like ten of us

1392
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 7: in a room just sitting around would read the screenplay

1393
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 7: and I would get and I would ask people for

1394
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 7: notes afterwards. And so I did that about ten times

1395
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 7: with the movie.

1396
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 3: And then uh wait, so you focus groups like with

1397
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 3: ten people in the room.

1398
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, isn't that the hardest thing in the World's It

1399
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 7: was really painful because afterwards you get assaulted with notes

1400
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 7: and people are just like, you know, Iron Glass, who

1401
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 7: was my producer ended up being my producer, was just

1402
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 7: like early on it was just like Mike like, it's

1403
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 7: just not a movie, like it just doesn't work. And

1404
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 7: I was like, no, it does, and he was like.

1405
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 7: I was like, it's like it's like The Big Chill

1406
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 7: set in the world of an improv theater. And he

1407
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 7: was like, well, the characters have to be more different

1408
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 7: from each other, because at that point the characters were

1409
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 7: too similar and the conflicts weren't there. And yeah, but

1410
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:03,600
Speaker 7: but yeah, I mean everything I do is sort of

1411
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 7: I work I put in front of people.

1412
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 3: How long did it take? What, like from screenplay to shooting?

1413
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:12,600
Speaker 3: How long did it take to do?

1414
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 7: Took about a year and a half writing it. I

1415
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 7: was in the middle of writing another film called My

1416
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 7: Girlfriend's Boyfriend, which is an adaptation of one of my shows.

1417
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 3: Wait, you're going to make that? I might? I might

1418
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 3: based on the sketch.

1419
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's true, that's not real. Yeah, it's true

1420
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 7: story the high school one. Yeah yeah, you can play that.

1421
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 7: You can play that track so I don't have to

1422
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 7: repeat it seriously. Yeah, yeah, that's true. The gist of

1423
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 7: it I'll tell you the gist of it is, when

1424
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 7: I was in high school, I went out with this

1425
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 7: girl and she was like and I was. I was

1426
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 7: like really into her, and then she was like, I

1427
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 7: have another boyfriend, but it's kind of ending and that

1428
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 7: kind of thing. This is going to be fine. And

1429
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 7: then and she invites me to meet her parents and

1430
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 7: I go, and I was like, oh, this is gonna

1431
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 7: be my big moment. I drive your parents house and

1432
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 7: we're hanging out, and then this other guy comes over

1433
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 7: and I'm realizing slowly that it's her other boyfriend, and

1434
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 7: like it's going okay, you know, I know, I don't

1435
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 7: think so. I think he just thought I was a

1436
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 7: friend in retrospect. I don't know for sure, but like

1437
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 7: and and.

1438
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 3: That was us, Yeah, like who's in? Why is it

1439
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 3: in the room?

1440
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 1: No?

1441
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 7: No that I'm sorry, No, that's from that's Abby's the

1442
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 7: character's name in Sleepwalk with Me, which is not her

1443
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 7: real name in real life. But uh but but yeah, no,

1444
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 7: that was this girl in high school and I was, man,

1445
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 7: I yeah, I was just really hung up on her,

1446
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 7: and I wanted to believe it was gonna work.

1447
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 3: Well. See the led Zeppelin slogan.

1448
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 7: No, No, that's different. That's different.

1449
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, for some reason, like I've you've jumbled my love.

1450
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 3: But so if.

1451
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: Comedy, I don't know if that's a cliche, like comedy

1452
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 1: being time and tragedy.

1453
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 7: Yeah the other day. The other day I tweeted, comedy

1454
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 7: is tragedy plus fuck it.

1455
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 3: So how do you make a joke of you have

1456
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 3: an insomnia?

1457
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 2: And oh?

1458
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that was weird. You Yeah, that's a

1459
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 7: true story. But you guys do you guys know the story.

1460
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 7: I have a sleep disorder where I where I sleepwalk

1461
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 7: and I jumped out of second story window at Yeah,

1462
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 7: I was on the road. This is like probably ten

1463
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,600
Speaker 7: years ago now. I was at La Quinta in.

1464
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 3: And Walla Walla, Washington.

1465
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, at Lakina in and uh, and I had a

1466
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 7: dream that there was a guided missile headed towards my

1467
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 7: room and I was like, I jumped out of bed.

1468
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 7: I was like, there's military personnel in my dream there.

1469
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 7: And I was like, what's the plan And they said, uh,

1470
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 7: the missile coordinates are set on you. And so I

1471
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,600
Speaker 7: decided in my dream, as it turns out it was

1472
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,799
Speaker 7: in my life as well, to jump out the window.

1473
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 7: So as to detonate outside the window for the sake

1474
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 7: of the platoon. So I jumped through the window like

1475
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 7: the Hulk and uh, and I landed on the front lawn.

1476
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 7: I got up and I kept running and I'm slowly

1477
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 7: realizing I'm on the front line of Laquina and Walla

1478
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 7: walla Washington in my underwear bleeding. I was like, oh no,

1479
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 7: but I swear to god, I was relieved in that

1480
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 7: moment that I hadn't been hit by the MESSI. I

1481
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 7: was like, that would have been a disaster. And so yeah,

1482
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 7: it ended up being sort of the baseline of what

1483
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 7: what my whole It was a one person show off Broadway,

1484
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 7: and then it ended up being my first movie. But yeah,

1485
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 7: and in Responsible, what you're saying, like, how am I

1486
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 7: comfortable talking about that for a while, while I wasn't,

1487
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 7: Like for a while, I was like, Okay, I'm gonna

1488
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 7: say this people. The first person told oh, that's a

1489
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 7: good question. Well, first person, I told us my wife,

1490
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 7: who at the time was my girlfriend, and I called

1491
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:13,560
Speaker 7: you know, I called her in the middle of the

1492
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 7: night and I was just like, hey, you're you're not

1493
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 7: going to believe this from the hospital, right or no

1494
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 7: from it was weirdly from the from the front desk

1495
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 7: of Washington, no one. I was bleeding and everything, and uh,

1496
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 7: you know, I called her and I was like, hey,

1497
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 7: this is what happened. And I called my parents and

1498
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 7: and I went to the do I went to the hospital.

1499
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 7: I went to check myself in the emergency. I was like,

1500
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 7: I'm the Hulk. I'm the Hulk. I'm the They were like, no,

1501
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 7: you're You're Bruce Banner. I was a point taking there.

1502
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 3: And uh.

1503
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 7: And yeah, no, So it was, yeah, it was. It

1504
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 7: was a really weird thing to tell people, and I

1505
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 7: didn't really Actually it's funny you should say we were

1506
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 7: talking about Hebburg. Hepburg was one of the first people

1507
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 7: I told.

1508
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 2: It was.

1509
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 7: Uh, it was at Caroline's where it was like a

1510
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 7: couple of months later, and it was Mitch Heburg and

1511
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 7: Lynn Chakraf were there and I just told him what

1512
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 7: had happened. And he you know, he has he you know,

1513
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 7: he had a lot of demons obviously, and uh, he

1514
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 7: had a you know, he had a lot of issues.

1515
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 7: And I think, you know, I think he understood it

1516
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 7: in some way, like I think that there was a

1517
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 7: there was a. It was the closest I ever felt

1518
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 7: to Mitch was when I explained to him that I

1519
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 7: jumped through a second third window.

1520
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 3: So it wasn't like, YO, the craziest last night.

1521
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,560
Speaker 7: No, I mean I was really fucked up from it,

1522
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 7: because I mean I still am to this day, Like

1523
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,600
Speaker 7: I'm still when I go to you know, when I

1524
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 7: go to bed at night, I sleep in a sleeping bag.

1525
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 7: I'm not making this up. I take medication, I sleep

1526
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,560
Speaker 7: in a sleeping bag, and for a while there I

1527
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 7: was wearing mittens so I couldn't open the sleeping bag.

1528
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so so there is nothing like that that

1529
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 3: can I guess there's no cure.

1530
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 7: There's no cure. Yes, I mean you could take medication

1531
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 7: I take I take Cloud. But but and I go

1532
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,600
Speaker 7: to my sleep my sleep doctor. But it's uh no,

1533
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 7: there's no cure. There's never gonna I'm gonna have to

1534
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 7: live with this for the rest of my life.

1535
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 3: Wait, it might be an intrusive if I asked, when

1536
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 3: was the last time you sleep walked?

1537
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 7: No, you're canna ask. It's probably like it happens a

1538
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 7: handful of times a year, so like six times a

1539
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 7: year or so. I'll have an incident like I remember

1540
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 7: a few years ago. It was like New Year's Eve,

1541
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 7: and I did all the things that trigger it, like

1542
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 7: I was eating red meat and I was drinking, and

1543
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 7: I was doing I was sleep deprived. We were out

1544
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 7: till like five am, and and then I had a

1545
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 7: dream that there was a This is a kind of abstract,

1546
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 7: but that there was a it was like an alien

1547
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 7: was in my throat. And when I woke up, I

1548
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 7: was trying to gorge myself in the bathroom. I was

1549
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 7: trying to like rip like something out of my throat.

1550
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 7: That's when I woke up and I and I had

1551
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:58,640
Speaker 7: I was and I had lost my voice for the

1552
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 7: next couple of days, at least the next day or so. Yeah,

1553
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 7: it's it's it's not Youah No, it's tough. I mean

1554
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,719
Speaker 7: it's it's definitely like one of those things where that's

1555
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 7: my you know, we all have our thing, and it's

1556
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 7: like that's my thing. I mean that it's pretty embarrassing

1557
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 7: for me, but I kind of broke through the like

1558
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 7: uncomfortability of discussing it and now I'm like, yeah, that's

1559
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 7: just what I that's what I am.

1560
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 3: But you say, like you do know at least kind

1561
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 3: of it's what will trigger it, So is there.

1562
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean you you know, there's this great book

1563
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 7: if anyone has a sleep just or if anyone has

1564
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 7: bad sleep or whatever. This is a great book called

1565
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 7: The Promise of Sleep. And you know they basically say

1566
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 7: a few hours before bed, turn off your phone, turn

1567
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 7: off the internet, don't eat big meals, you know, like

1568
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 7: that kind of thing, don't watch TV news and of course,

1569
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 7: like that's all yeah, no, and so that's you know,

1570
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 7: you try not to do that stuff. So it has

1571
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 7: to be totally silent, that's yeah, And that's that's the hope.

1572
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1573
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 7: Sometimes I listen to like meditation podcasts and things like that.

1574
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 6: But what about like when you have a wild night

1575
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 6: with your wife, Like, is she just puts you to sleep,

1576
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 6: what do you do?

1577
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 7: Like, do you are automatically She'll no, no, She'll she'll

1578
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 7: like she'll like uh A lot of times she'll be

1579
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 7: she'll like wake me up and be like, hey, you

1580
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 7: should take your pill and that can and she'll stick

1581
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 7: me in my sleeping bag. She literally said, my wife

1582
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,640
Speaker 7: calls it my pod. She'll be like she got she

1583
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 7: calls me, she goes me mo and it's Mike, uh

1584
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 7: not Jim. But uh, she'll go, she'll go, she'll go, Mo,

1585
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 7: it's time to get in your pod and she'll stick

1586
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 7: me in. It's yeah, it's uh wow, it's pretty embarrassing

1587
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 7: if she wants she got to unzip you zip me?

1588
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1589
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:46,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, why it's embarrassing.

1590
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 3: That's fascinating.

1591
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 5: I don't know why you why you'd be embarrassed. I'm

1592
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 5: really sleeping back part. That's embarrassing.

1593
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 7: Sleep.

1594
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1595
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 7: It's just one of those things where I all that

1596
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 7: people think I was crazy. You know, people think like, oh,

1597
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 7: this guy's just not all there. I mean, it's the

1598
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 7: kind of thing that in the eighteen hundreds, they'd put

1599
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 7: you in the hospital and they really throw away the key,

1600
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. Like it's if you jumped.

1601
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 7: Think about that another era, you jump through a second

1602
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 7: story window picture.

1603
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm amazing.

1604
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 7: This guy's crazy. I mer I'm a phenomenal athlete. Look

1605
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 7: at me, people, I mean people aren't looking at me

1606
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 7: at home. So you can google image man, and you're.

1607
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 3: R B I G L I A B I R G.

1608
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 3: You are a Google nightmare. I didn't realize the R

1609
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 3: was the third letter of your last name. So for

1610
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 3: the longest I was looking up Oh God, like, yeah

1611
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 3: it was, it was. It took me time.

1612
01:21:56,439 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 1: This is a quest Love Supreme on Pandora here with

1613
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 1: the crew. So, Mike, what is what is your okay?

1614
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:10,759
Speaker 1: I hate to ask this question because I also.

1615
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 3: Asked lim Manuel this question as well.

1616
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 1: Any kind of rolled his eyes in the air slightly irked.

1617
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 1: But have you started working on your next project? I

1618
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:28,759
Speaker 1: only if if this becomes so gargantuan that it becomes

1619
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 1: a burden that you know, you could run the risk

1620
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: of writers black or whatever. So are you immediately pushing

1621
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 1: for the next project?

1622
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 7: I have like five well, I have like the three

1623
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 7: or four movie ideas that are kicking around in my

1624
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 7: head right now, and I like to kind of let

1625
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,560
Speaker 7: them fight with each other, like like I don't I

1626
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 7: don't rush to write one of them. I just let

1627
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 7: them kind of play around in my head and then

1628
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 7: if one of them feels strong enough, then then that's

1629
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 7: when I'm gonna write it. But in the meantime, I'm

1630
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 7: just trying to live, you know, and you know, be

1631
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 7: a I have a fifteen month old daughter, and I'm

1632
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 7: just trying to hang out with my wife and my

1633
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 7: daughter and regret live thanks, just trying to live a bit.

1634
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 3: You know.

1635
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,640
Speaker 7: It's I feel like I've been I've been kind of

1636
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:17,640
Speaker 7: hustling for like fifteen years, sixteen years, and I'm trying to.

1637
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 3: Like you're trying to take a break now.

1638
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's an awesome looking hustled up.

1639
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 3: But wait, it's.

1640
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 1: Well, it's weird only because like I feel like, a

1641
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 1: you're about to ride to such an arrival place, like now's.

1642
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 3: Not the time to not.

1643
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 8: I think he's I think it well because I had

1644
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:43,679
Speaker 8: a conversation about this with uha unpaid Bill uh Craig

1645
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 8: uh Base Carter Carter, Homie Carter, who's going to ride us?

1646
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 3: From how I met your mother?

1647
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 8: Me and and were talking earlier, and we had a

1648
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 8: conversation that was almost exactly what you're saying, Mike, in

1649
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 8: the sense that once you get to this point in

1650
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 8: your career, I think.

1651
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 3: In age rather particularly when you have a kid, yeah,

1652
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 3: you work smarter, not harder.

1653
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1654
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 7: I think that's what I'm trying to do.

1655
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta kind of read you know what I'm saying.

1656
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 1: Like the days of me staying up all night and

1657
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 1: just working, you know, twelve sixteen eighteen hours straight in

1658
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: the studio.

1659
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 3: It's like, dude, I fuck that.

1660
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, I can't do that work. I'm the same exact

1661
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 7: way I work.

1662
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 8: And then I'm going to bed because it's like I

1663
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 8: got to be at carpool at three thirty tomorrow.

1664
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 3: Bro, Yeah you know what I'm saying, Like, I fuck it.

1665
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 3: This should still be here when I you look confused like.

1666
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 2: This, chill, what's just this?

1667
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 6: But Mike, are you cool with that? Like? Are you

1668
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 6: cool with where you are right now?

1669
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 3: I think?

1670
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 10: I mean it's kind of dope to look like I said,

1671
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 10: look at your IMD page and see that you've been

1672
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:42,600
Speaker 10: in train Wreck, you got Orange and New Black, you

1673
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 10: got your own projects.

1674
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 6: Are you cool with that? Or do you want to

1675
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 6: be like, you know, recognizable on the streets and everybody?

1676
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 7: No, No, it's weird. I I am cool with it.

1677
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 7: I when I was part of the reason I feel

1678
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 7: like I was able to write the movie was in

1679
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 7: my twenties. I feel like I wanted this one type

1680
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 7: of six sas and it's like what me and all

1681
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 7: my buddies wanted the same fucking thing, Like we want

1682
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 7: to like write for Conan or SNL or this or

1683
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 7: that or whatever, and then you get to be your

1684
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 7: thirties and you start to be like, no, no, that

1685
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,639
Speaker 7: that's not what success is. Success is like any number

1686
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,560
Speaker 7: of things on a spectrum, and that it's personal to you.

1687
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,560
Speaker 7: And so I'm just starting to understand, like, no, no,

1688
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 7: I'm my own thing, and I don't need to be

1689
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 7: like you're saying, like recognizing the street and all that

1690
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 7: kind of stuff, which I think in my twenties I craved,

1691
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 7: surely because I'm single.

1692
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 1: So in your head and the twenty in your twenties,

1693
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,600
Speaker 1: writing for Conan would have been the Pinaffs.

1694
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 7: It would have Yeah, it would have been the ultimate thing.

1695
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 3: And but do you think it's more of a satiable

1696
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 3: thing because I've had that thing where it's just like, yo, man,

1697
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 3: if I just get one Grammy, that's all I want.

1698
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want, And then it happens and then you're like, ah,

1699
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: if we could just come home with like.

1700
01:25:55,960 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 3: Five thousand dollars, that's all. What Wait? If I lived

1701
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 3: a life where like I could just get four pairs

1702
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 3: of Nikes every month, that's all I want, And then

1703
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 3: it was like, Okay, a five bedroomhouse, and I swear

1704
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 3: god that no more, that's all.

1705
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 7: What Well, the craziest thing I think is it just well,

1706
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 7: I find that that's what I like about New York

1707
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 7: City is less like that than Los Angeles. I think,

1708
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 7: in my opinion, when you go to Los Angeles, I

1709
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 7: feel like you see a lot of people who they

1710
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 7: got into it for the right reasons, and then they

1711
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 7: start to take money gigs just because they're around. And

1712
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 7: you know, there's money all around in Hollywood, and I

1713
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 7: feel like my goal is just to continue, like I think,

1714
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 7: don't think twice is better than Sleepwalk with Me. I

1715
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 7: hope my third movie is better than my second movie.

1716
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 7: I hope I can make about ten in my life

1717
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 7: and then that'll be it for me, you know what

1718
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 7: I mean, likee' that's all I want to do.

1719
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 3: So you see an end game, you see a oh

1720
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 3: I can walk away from this.

1721
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think about ten movies to get back to Tarantino.

1722
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 7: I mean Tarantino is like that's what he said, that's

1723
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 7: what he said.

1724
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean even on a hip hop right. You

1725
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 8: know Hank Shockley, who is the main producer of Enemy,

1726
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:11,719
Speaker 8: I'm talking.

1727
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 3: For the people.

1728
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm still I wasn't correcting you I'm still getting over

1729
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 1: the chill of stopping one well hit To that point,

1730
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 1: Hank Shockley always said that bands after three records.

1731
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 3: They need to just be like fuck it. He was,

1732
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 3: and I mean and and to be fair, if.

1733
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 8: You look at a lot of bands like their first three,

1734
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 8: not that they didn't make anything great after that, but

1735
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 8: I mean, look at Public Enemy, look at Outcast, look at.

1736
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 1: But the thing is, we didn't start popping to our

1737
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 1: fourth record. Well, y'all didn't start popping. Popping is different.

1738
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 1: Y'all didn't pop into y'all four. And again y'all were

1739
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 1: one of the ones. Like I mean, I bought all

1740
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 1: y'all records. But even still, y'all got the opportunity to

1741
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 1: make that record. Y'all came along at a time where

1742
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 1: you know, well, y'all particular situation, you were given that

1743
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,839
Speaker 1: space to get to record three, four or five. Whereas

1744
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 1: now you know what I'm saying, Uh, you know, particularly

1745
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,600
Speaker 1: black artists, you're not getting that many chances at that

1746
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 1: without a home run.

1747
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 3: It's just stopping.

1748
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 1: This is from if this from a dude that took

1749
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 1: his first vacation recently and to not work for five days,

1750
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't killing me as bad as I you know,

1751
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 1: didn't think it was going to kill me, like because

1752
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:44,560
Speaker 1: normally when I tried to do that, okay, I'm not

1753
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,560
Speaker 1: going to work today, whatever. And I just feel like

1754
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 1: like something's happening, someone's getting the advantage that.

1755
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 3: You know, do you do you want kids in a wife?

1756
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 7: Like?

1757
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 3: Do you want to be married with kids? At some point?

1758
01:28:58,360 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 3: I want?

1759
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 1: But nah, that changes things, dude, I think you relate

1760
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 1: to a lot of what like what Mike is like

1761
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 1: just kids. It just that it changes everything.

1762
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 3: Man, if you have a conscious, If you have a conscious,

1763
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 3: it changes things. I know some ambitious people that put

1764
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 3: their family second. I can see that.

1765
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that I could do that. But I'm

1766
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 1: also a person that doesn't say why I never do that.

1767
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 10: You won't do that because you waited this long. Those

1768
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 10: other people started early and they don't appreciate it. You'll

1769
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:35,680
Speaker 10: appreciate it more.

1770
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 6: I'm sorry.

1771
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 8: Just now, that's that's a bad point. I mean because

1772
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 8: right now, I mean I had my boys, John, I'm

1773
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 8: from the South. We you know, we start early, so

1774
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 8: you know it was you know, not seriously for real.

1775
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 8: I mean my boys are fifteen and ten. Yeah, yeah, no,

1776
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 8: we start everything.

1777
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:54,560
Speaker 3: I mean, it's the country. What the fuck else we

1778
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 3: gonna do with cook out and not pull out.

1779
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 9: Jesus Like, that's just that's just what you do. But

1780
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 9: but no, like a fight stop? Did you just coin

1781
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 9: like a I don't even know what the like?

1782
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 2: Really?

1783
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:15,560
Speaker 3: I guess does that count as an idiom or I

1784
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 3: don't know. I just can.

1785
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 2: Mike should tweet that.

1786
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:24,639
Speaker 7: To end my career.

1787
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 3: But nah, man, I hear what you're saying on Mike.

1788
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 8: I mean, I think you know, particularly when you get

1789
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 8: to that, because it's not from what I heard you say,

1790
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 8: It's like, it's not like therapy and ship now what

1791
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 8: I heard you say, it's not that it's necessarily stopping.

1792
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 8: I think it's just necessarily just getting to that point

1793
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 8: where you realize, like, okay, I've done Once you get

1794
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 8: to a point where you realize I've expressed myself to

1795
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 8: the on the highest level that I can, whether it's

1796
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 8: a movie, whether it's a radio show, whether it's a

1797
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 8: pot whatever.

1798
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 3: If I've done that on the highest level.

1799
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 1: Right then, which leads back to our earlier conversation of

1800
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 1: listening to those voices in your head. Now what I'm

1801
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 1: just saying, is if you think that there's a limit,

1802
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 1: Like okay, now, logistically speaking, now, if we're.

1803
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 3: Talking to.

1804
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 1: Twenty year old Amir Thompson busking on the corners of

1805
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 1: South Street in Philadelphia. Now, if someone came up to

1806
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 1: me and said, check it all right, Like it's my

1807
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 1: version of Jacob Marley that says, you know, okay, now

1808
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 1: here's the deal. You're twenty now, and you know I'm

1809
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,639
Speaker 1: actively in hip hop. Now.

1810
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 3: Usually quote it's supposed to go down at least in

1811
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 3: like two years, that's when you get your moment in time. Now,

1812
01:31:58,160 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 3: if that voice told me.

1813
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna get your moment and whatever the quote your

1814
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:07,680
Speaker 1: moment is is relative. I don't mean like you know,

1815
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 1: just no I got to poor Champagne on people or whatever.

1816
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:13,640
Speaker 3: But if someone would have told me.

1817
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 1: That twenty five years from now, when you're forty five,

1818
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 1: it's gonna be on and popping, but till then, it's

1819
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:28,840
Speaker 1: gonna be the slowest, most tortuous.

1820
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:30,680
Speaker 3: Ride of your life. Like do you think do you

1821
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 3: aint Biggie would have stuck over? Like if someone told

1822
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 3: Biggie all right, all right.

1823
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 1: Christopher Wallace at nineteen, it's just not really gonna happen

1824
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 1: for you till you're like forty three.

1825
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 8: Do you think he would have been like he maybe

1826
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 8: he would have stuck around. I mean, I don't know,

1827
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 8: but I mean, but that's like it for everybody, though,

1828
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 8: I think, I mean, if you really look at it,

1829
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 8: you know, in terms of but that's the thing. There's

1830
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:53,680
Speaker 8: an and I can kind of back it up with

1831
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 8: science a little bit pseudo whatever. But there was an

1832
01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 8: article of Red while back they talk about by how

1833
01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 8: creative people why most of their creative peaks happened in

1834
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:08,640
Speaker 8: like your late thirties, you know what I'm saying, Like

1835
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 8: your late thirties, early forties.

1836
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 3: That's really what you get to your money making years.

1837
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 8: And it's something to do with that's when both sides

1838
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 8: of your brain kind of learned to talk to each other.

1839
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 8: So it's like you learned how to merge the creative

1840
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 8: and the business, and you kind of what you're saying,

1841
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 8: you kind of get out of your head a little more,

1842
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 8: but you understand how to make those two sides coexist.

1843
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 8: So that's why people have their creative breakthroughs. So I mean,

1844
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 8: so for somebody like Mike, I mean, you know, you

1845
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,640
Speaker 8: were just the comedy seller guy. I mean like, did

1846
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 8: you ever think, like, man, I'm gonna make a fucking movie.

1847
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 3: I mean, was that you know?

1848
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 7: I always thought that was gonna happen faster like am

1849
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 7: you're saying. I always thought like when I was like

1850
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 7: twenty two, I was like, I'll make my first movie

1851
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:53,720
Speaker 7: at twenty four. And then no, it's like when I

1852
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 7: was thirty two. It's like, we know, it's like literally

1853
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 7: ten years longer than I thought it was gonna be.

1854
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 3: Okay, now I'm just singing that in your thirty eight

1855
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 3: Now No, no, I don't mean uh posture are I

1856
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 3: mean in your in your eight movie plan?

1857
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:12,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, in your eight movie ten movie plan, eight more movies.

1858
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, in your ten movie plan. What if movie

1859
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:21,680
Speaker 3: number seven becomes your piece of resistance? What if you

1860
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 3: went Star Wars?

1861
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, drop the mic and lave you mean, well, no,

1862
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 7: I'm just saying that, what if it enables you to.

1863
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 3: Start an empire? Oh?

1864
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 7: I see what you're saying, like like Apatow or something

1865
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 7: where like yeah, what year old virgin kind of thing,

1866
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 7: and then all of a sudden I could branch out

1867
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 7: and make verbiglia films that their stamp on a bunch

1868
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 7: of different.

1869
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 1: Positive that Larry Sanders era Appatow didn't even think that

1870
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 1: he would be the comedy go to god he is

1871
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:55,720
Speaker 1: right now.

1872
01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 7: No, I don't think he probably, but I think it takes.

1873
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:00,679
Speaker 8: That time, no, man, because you're you gotta think about

1874
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 8: it like your now you were saying that twenty two

1875
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 8: year old guy, right. I think sometimes we have to

1876
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 8: grow in two as an arts. You have to give

1877
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 8: your times, give yourself space to grow into that so

1878
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 8: you're ready for it. So if you were that guy

1879
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 8: at twenty two beating on buckets and they gave you

1880
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 8: the Tonight show, you would have probably would have fucked

1881
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 8: it up, you.

1882
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying, because you weren't ready for that

1883
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:23,680
Speaker 3: at that Nobody ready, No one is ready for that.

1884
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 1: Like I mean you you don't have no your brain

1885
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:30,639
Speaker 1: is not even fully formed to like calculate risk and shit,

1886
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like it's not even you're

1887
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:36,519
Speaker 1: not ready for it. I never I never desired the show.

1888
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't a dream like where like Dox Everson's on

1889
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 1: the wall like to be that dude, but like I

1890
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 1: take it as it comes. But if I were when

1891
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:56,040
Speaker 1: I was thirty eight. Okay, two thousand and nine, I

1892
01:35:56,160 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 1: have no shame in my safeness and in my older

1893
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 1: statesman whatever. I might get a little ert if you know,

1894
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 1: millennial calls me og. But sir, are you og yet?

1895
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 3: I'm certainly an og? No, but I mean has like

1896
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 3: like Cuddy called you og yet?

1897
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 7: Oh?

1898
01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, like I've been called og yold up og. I

1899
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:19,120
Speaker 8: used to listen to you in middle school.

1900
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:22,600
Speaker 7: Oh I get that now, Really, I get people. I

1901
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:24,720
Speaker 7: keep on my show saying I listened to you in

1902
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 7: middle school.

1903
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 3: Wow.

1904
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's crazy.

1905
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 3: They don't call you og.

1906
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:32,680
Speaker 7: Nobody calls me. Nobody would ever call me og in

1907
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:33,639
Speaker 7: any context.

1908
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:40,880
Speaker 3: Let me keep retweeting you wait a week? Well, yeah,

1909
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that in two thousand and eight, two

1910
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:47,640
Speaker 3: thousand and nine. I you know, I don't know. I

1911
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 3: just feel like to say what your plans are?

1912
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 1: I feel like that's desire, not planned, because if you

1913
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 1: do become an appetitph or have an opportunity to become

1914
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 1: or be greater than that, to become Spielberg or greater.

1915
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 3: I would think that you that might be a sam

1916
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 3: zone that you're in.

1917
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:18,639
Speaker 1: If you walk away for it for any other reason,

1918
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 1: then you absolutely must bond with your kids. But even then,

1919
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 1: like Spielberg has kids and a family and that certain

1920
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 1: thing is able to juggle it. So I'm saying that

1921
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if you.

1922
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:32,640
Speaker 3: See, but I.

1923
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 7: Relate most to Sam in the movie. Like I, when

1924
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 7: I look at Sam, I'm like, Oh, that's what That's

1925
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 7: what I I wish I was. I wish I was

1926
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 7: someone who had complete integrity and didn't care about all that.

1927
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 1: I didn't see her. I didn't see it as well. Again,

1928
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:54,720
Speaker 1: I didn't see it as integrity like she was just

1929
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 1: so she was scared.

1930
01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:57,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought she was checking out.

1931
01:37:58,200 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 6: At first she was.

1932
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 10: Scared, but then when she broke down, she was not scared.

1933
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:02,720
Speaker 10: She explained that, I really don't want to do that.

1934
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 10: I really don't want to be that. I don't want

1935
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:04,719
Speaker 10: to be on that shut.

1936
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 9: I still think there might have been some fear that

1937
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 9: in the beginning when I'm talking about when I think, yeah,

1938
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:12,280
Speaker 9: it's all fear.

1939
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 10: Fear of yeah world, fear of maybe getting to that

1940
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 10: point where you think you might be selling them.

1941
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 8: Okay, So one another scene that that that that that

1942
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:24,240
Speaker 8: Sam reminded me of. So where's the line, right, so Louis.

1943
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if you watch Louis, just

1944
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 1: the scene where Louie is in his uh it' see

1945
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:32,960
Speaker 1: like season four where he goes to his agent he

1946
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 1: has the he has the opportunity to host letterst level

1947
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:39,000
Speaker 1: and his agent just sits him down, and it's like, look, dude,

1948
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 1: this is what it is. You make eighty thousand dollars

1949
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 1: a year your stand up comic. You know, shit is

1950
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 1: not going to get any better than this. If you

1951
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:49,320
Speaker 1: were if you were waiting for that moment. This is

1952
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:51,920
Speaker 1: that moment right here, and if you don't take it,

1953
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:54,559
Speaker 1: you're done forever, you know what I mean. Just kind

1954
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:56,679
Speaker 1: of just that you know, that nut up or shut

1955
01:38:56,760 --> 01:39:00,080
Speaker 1: up kind of moment, right, and so he on.

1956
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:04,880
Speaker 9: People just got really excited anytime I was keeping a list,

1957
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:11,639
Speaker 9: any time I thought it was put up up where

1958
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 9: I come from, that's what it is. But we're from

1959
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:18,400
Speaker 9: different places. Like just like a little he's watching a

1960
01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:21,800
Speaker 9: lot of times the Road and you took that one

1961
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:23,280
Speaker 9: and I took that one.

1962
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it.

1963
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 3: The past diverged. But but nah, so where is that?

1964
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 3: As an artist?

1965
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:31,519
Speaker 8: For you might like, so, where where is that moment

1966
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:36,719
Speaker 8: because you could say again where I'm just trying to understand,

1967
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:40,520
Speaker 8: how can you we say that the person is sabotaging

1968
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 8: when again, it just may be a thing where you

1969
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 8: just say, look, I know my limitations, you know what

1970
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 8: I'm saying, and well, it's.

1971
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 7: Just it's just what you I think. You ultimately have

1972
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:54,560
Speaker 7: to do what you love and not what you like.

1973
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 7: So it's like people say to me now, like, oh,

1974
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:01,800
Speaker 7: the next you'll make will be with the studio. It'll

1975
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 7: be like Universal Paramount or whatever. And I'm like, I

1976
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 7: don't really like those movies. I don't really like big movies.

1977
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 7: I love small movies like I love movies like Don't

1978
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:15,920
Speaker 7: Think Twice And you know, Captain Fantastic is a good

1979
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 7: one that's out right now and Tickled Like there's like

1980
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 7: indie small indie films just like what I love.

1981
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 3: So you had an absolute final say on this film.

1982
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I final cut. I finally cut in my first one.

1983
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:28,920
Speaker 7: I just want to in all my all my one

1984
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 7: person shows the same thing.

1985
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:39,400
Speaker 3: Has Hollywood coming knocking. Yeah, they call Okay, by the way.

1986
01:40:39,479 --> 01:40:46,440
Speaker 1: Congrats, Like I'm I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed with any not aggregates,

1987
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 1: but just any sort of rating system. And you know,

1988
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 1: when I first saw that ninety nine rotten Tomato thing,

1989
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:57,280
Speaker 1: I just thought like, oh, okay, one person reviewed it,

1990
01:40:57,439 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 1: and then that was the yeah, And then I realized

1991
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:00,880
Speaker 1: I was like, yo.

1992
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 3: This is like across the board. This is probably the highest.

1993
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 1: Rated uh movie that has at least a minimum of

1994
01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 1: twenty major reviews to it.

1995
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:15,840
Speaker 7: Like everyone's just yeah, I've been I mean, I don't

1996
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:18,719
Speaker 7: know what the humble thing to say is here, people

1997
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 7: like people have been digging it, like I've been really lucky.

1998
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:25,640
Speaker 1: Like this, this, this is the equivalent of this is

1999
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 1: really the equivalent like if I got to put in

2000
01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 1: perspective of Illmatic getting five mics, Yeah, no, this is

2001
01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:37,759
Speaker 1: the illmatic five mic movement where you know, like critics

2002
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:41,360
Speaker 1: are really truly getting it for those that don't understand

2003
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:45,719
Speaker 1: the reference, because I feel I've.

2004
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 2: Been meaning illmatic. Did your mom and all her friends

2005
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 2: write all those rotten reviews?

2006
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 6: No?

2007
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:53,800
Speaker 3: Okay?

2008
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 1: So uh for hip hop heads, uh nas is illmatic

2009
01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 1: and the extremely glowing review that uh, I guess we

2010
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 1: can reveal that Mino Minya oh miss info was quote Shorty,

2011
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 1: you didn't know.

2012
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:14,680
Speaker 6: This, Yeah, I didn't even know she was mean to

2013
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 6: Oh I didn't know, miss info. Okay, thank you.

2014
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2015
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, back when Mino was at the Source magazine, back

2016
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:24,839
Speaker 1: when that was our pitchfork, it was that was our pitchfork,

2017
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 1: that was our rolling stone, and there was a good

2018
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 1: six year stretch of it being absolutely credible. Last word

2019
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 1: on what was quality hip hop or not?

2020
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 3: Mad Man got made, Man Got four and a.

2021
01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:39,600
Speaker 2: Half and it was just.

2022
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 3: Got four and a half. Yeah, it was just like

2023
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:46,280
Speaker 3: the little Kim got no, no, no, look got five.

2024
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:49,040
Speaker 3: Look Kim got five? She got five? She got five?

2025
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 3: Is the one? Where was the one after that?

2026
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 9: Oh?

2027
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 3: The Naked Truth was the Naked truth? Yeah, because that.

2028
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 1: Was oh crap, because the dude was like her, what

2029
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 1: was it her? Hey, well deserves Yeah, light us up

2030
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:12,280
Speaker 1: was a tipping point track. And then Scott gave it

2031
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:15,600
Speaker 1: to all right, do you remember that?

2032
01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 4: All right?

2033
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:18,519
Speaker 1: Now we're falling down rabbit hole? Do you remember the

2034
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 1: Senior Love Daddy shout out moment, do the right thing?

2035
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:25,720
Speaker 1: We love Radio Senior Loved and he names all those groups. Well,

2036
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 1: like I was watching that and made a beat from

2037
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 1: Matt with Scott and we were going to take it.

2038
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 3: And then next thing I know.

2039
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 1: Look even here in the beginning, like you're my drumsticks

2040
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 1: and all, like, yeah, that was a roots track.

2041
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:41,560
Speaker 3: Wowow, but now it's a five my classic thank you,

2042
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:46,760
Speaker 3: don't check the stor Yeah, but no.

2043
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that when NAS's Illmatic got reviewed, that

2044
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:55,840
Speaker 1: was it was well, it was a game changing moment

2045
01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:57,920
Speaker 1: in hip hop, and I guess I wound up being

2046
01:43:57,960 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 1: a burden to Nas at the end.

2047
01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:05,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it did. It became a burden. And so.

2048
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 1: You know, I mean to get a ninety I think

2049
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:12,200
Speaker 1: getting a ninety nine is better than getting a hundred.

2050
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 3: No, I think, well.

2051
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 7: There's one, yeah, there's one negative one from the Washington

2052
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 7: Post and I he tweet and tweeted about it because

2053
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:26,959
Speaker 7: Seth Rogen tweeted like, I agree with all the critics.

2054
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:29,200
Speaker 7: I agree, like I agree with all the critics about

2055
01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:32,280
Speaker 7: don't think twice or whatever, and then that motherfucker tweeted

2056
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:35,439
Speaker 7: I won't even say his name, it's like not all

2057
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 7: the critics. I was like, no, I'm not that. Yeah,

2058
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:46,720
Speaker 7: like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna write that.

2059
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 3: I'm not going to my two cents on the new

2060
01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 3: Frank Ocean album.

2061
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:55,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but I feel like you're the kind of

2062
01:44:55,200 --> 01:45:00,920
Speaker 1: person that lives totally Bill. Bill's is the weird thing, though,

2063
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 1: because I don't feel that Boss Bill is the guy

2064
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 1: that genuinely feels that he needs to knock down your

2065
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 1: Jinga game, right, but just part of him that just

2066
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:19,639
Speaker 1: has to Charlie Brown kick your Jinga game.

2067
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 9: I'll let you play Jinga if if you know, if

2068
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 9: it looks like you guys know what you're doing. But

2069
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 9: if you don't know what you're doing, I'm gonna knock

2070
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:26,559
Speaker 9: that ship down and let somebody else play.

2071
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 3: All right, did you all right? More rabbit hole falling?

2072
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:32,960
Speaker 7: Did you metaphor?

2073
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:35,479
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that is.

2074
01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 7: The jengamore metaphor out of respect for the Djenga in

2075
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:40,600
Speaker 7: the movie. Yes, good, I love it.

2076
01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that, like you, but part of you

2077
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:48,600
Speaker 3: knew that you didn't want to like it in the

2078
01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:49,200
Speaker 3: first place.

2079
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:51,640
Speaker 9: No, it's not that I didn't go into it, not

2080
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 9: one voice so high. I didn't go into it knowing

2081
01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 9: that I didn't want to like it. It's I knew

2082
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:00,600
Speaker 9: what to expect, and.

2083
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 3: I knew so even though expressed sadly.

2084
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:06,519
Speaker 9: It's like I knew what's expecting. I didn't want to

2085
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 9: like just you know, go off the cuff and say,

2086
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 9: oh it's trash and I didn't even listen to it.

2087
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:12,920
Speaker 9: I needed to get confirmation, and I got confirmation.

2088
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 3: But I don't think.

2089
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 1: I still say that you have to live with something,

2090
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 1: uh for about three months before you.

2091
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:33,360
Speaker 3: Really Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's like it's

2092
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:34,960
Speaker 3: like I could listen to Jesus and know that I

2093
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 3: never needed to listen to it again.

2094
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:38,800
Speaker 9: But you see, I had to change your heart about Jesus. Yeah,

2095
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:41,240
Speaker 9: you had to go to a loud ass stadium to

2096
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 9: hear where. I believe Bob Power, who was our guest

2097
01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 9: when you told this story, said that if you play

2098
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 9: anything at a loud volume, it automatically sounds better. So

2099
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 9: I mean, come on or in a strip club that

2100
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:55,200
Speaker 9: was I mean, if you if you're listening to Jesus

2101
01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 9: a loud volume at Madison Square Garden, it's going to

2102
01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:02,759
Speaker 9: sound like it's going to sound amazing because everything sounds Send.

2103
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 8: It Up was the only one that stuck for me

2104
01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:05,800
Speaker 8: on that, like send it up. I cut for it

2105
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:07,439
Speaker 8: like that one was like, okay, ill fun, We'll send

2106
01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:11,040
Speaker 8: it up. And Black Skinhead is like great montage Navy

2107
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 8: seal training music. That's cool, like you know what I'm saying.

2108
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:18,960
Speaker 3: But other than that, I.

2109
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:21,320
Speaker 10: Mean ever since they played it at the engagement party

2110
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 10: and messed me up songa party at Kim and Kanye's

2111
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 10: engagement party at the stadium, Jaden and then were dancing

2112
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:29,240
Speaker 10: in the background the black Skinhead.

2113
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:30,120
Speaker 6: It was like, what are we doing?

2114
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:30,639
Speaker 3: Who?

2115
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:37,360
Speaker 6: Jayden and highly, Yes, I missed this. It was at

2116
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:38,599
Speaker 6: the San Francisco Stadium.

2117
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:41,680
Speaker 3: So you watch Keeping Up with the Gardashians.

2118
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:46,920
Speaker 7: Oh sh you gotta you gotta look on black Twitter Marrow.

2119
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that wasn't I missed that too.

2120
01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:53,760
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm not all right. I'm not even

2121
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 3: gonna leave you out there like.

2122
01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:59,720
Speaker 1: Twice a year, you know, like when sometimes you have

2123
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 1: to handel your battery, your your remote control what.

2124
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:06,320
Speaker 3: I don't know what you were doing?

2125
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 2: Everyone?

2126
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:18,679
Speaker 1: What's happened when your remote control batteries haven't been changed

2127
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:19,400
Speaker 1: in a second, we.

2128
01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:21,439
Speaker 3: Got roll them.

2129
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 1: You got a fondle furious styles right the fury I

2130
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:35,080
Speaker 1: was doing with Michael Jackson. Uh oh, for those listening

2131
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:36,800
Speaker 1: at home, you don't want to see what's happening.

2132
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:38,559
Speaker 6: For those ladies listening you do want to see.

2133
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:45,519
Speaker 1: Okay, so maybe once or twice or three times a year,

2134
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, the TV will be stuck on the E

2135
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:52,720
Speaker 1: channel and I'll fall into a Kardashian rabbit hole and

2136
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 1: about nine of those episodes will just run and I

2137
01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 1: can't stop watching it.

2138
01:48:57,439 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 6: Every man in here has watched it. At least one

2139
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:06,240
Speaker 6: speak on it, because you quiet speak on it, Mike.

2140
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 3: Speak on watch it.

2141
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 7: I've watched about half an episode of a Kardashian and.

2142
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 3: Then I didn't.

2143
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 7: I'm sorry. I didn't get into it. No, I I

2144
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:17,720
Speaker 7: just couldn't. I couldn't follow it.

2145
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:23,160
Speaker 3: Right, I couldn't keep up.

2146
01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:27,120
Speaker 7: Literally, well, I was confused because I I turned it

2147
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 7: on just because Kanye was on it.

2148
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 3: He is on it, yeah, now I thought he was.

2149
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 6: Win the rabbit hole.

2150
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:40,800
Speaker 7: But then I was like, if he's not on it more,

2151
01:49:41,479 --> 01:49:43,720
Speaker 7: I'm not going to watch this because I don't know

2152
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:44,800
Speaker 7: what the rest of them do.

2153
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:48,439
Speaker 3: Nothing, Like what do they do? Like? Why are they?

2154
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:51,840
Speaker 3: Why is it? I think we're jealous that they're able

2155
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:53,639
Speaker 3: to monetize.

2156
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:55,679
Speaker 6: When it's features.

2157
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 3: I don't want to monetize.

2158
01:49:57,439 --> 01:50:00,120
Speaker 7: I don't like this an that's what I you know,

2159
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 7: that's a good example, I think, I think it's a

2160
01:50:03,439 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 7: sellout adventure.

2161
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 6: Well your dig but they sell out on purpose. They

2162
01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:09,160
Speaker 6: never had like a you know, there was never anything.

2163
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:10,679
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2164
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 1: I mean, if you think Chris Jenner was at the

2165
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:17,760
Speaker 1: murder trial of her boob that her ex husband was

2166
01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 1: defending while sitting defending her side dude while with the

2167
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 1: new dude, like, that's.

2168
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:26,400
Speaker 2: That's like the boyfriend.

2169
01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 6: Mike and America confused.

2170
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:29,400
Speaker 3: They don't know.

2171
01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:32,639
Speaker 2: That's like the boyfriend that came to Mike's girlfriend's house

2172
01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:34,599
Speaker 2: and then Mike Kim there too, and those two boyfriends.

2173
01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:36,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, the murder.

2174
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:46,680
Speaker 1: One murder, But how do we get to this? We

2175
01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:48,719
Speaker 1: just fell down rabbit holes. I was trying to explain

2176
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:52,839
Speaker 1: thematic and we ended up it like the little Kim, which.

2177
01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:55,840
Speaker 3: Then led to so let's go back to omadic. I

2178
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:58,720
Speaker 3: guess yeah, so you got ninety nine and rotten to

2179
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:02,720
Speaker 3: a fag? You congratulations? Is Mike?

2180
01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:06,880
Speaker 7: What I feel? I feel like, I feel lucky. I

2181
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 7: feel luckier about like us sitting around talking about it

2182
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:13,679
Speaker 7: and how it relates to our lives. Then I feel

2183
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:16,240
Speaker 7: about reviewers. I feel like, because that's that's all when

2184
01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:18,639
Speaker 7: you're making music or you're making a movie or whatever.

2185
01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:18,880
Speaker 3: It is.

2186
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:21,519
Speaker 7: All you want is for people to go, oh, that's

2187
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 7: like my life, and that's you know, that's all you want.

2188
01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:27,040
Speaker 7: So that's all that. I feel very lucky.

2189
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:29,519
Speaker 1: Okay, you know they don't all work. Can we go

2190
01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 1: bottom line? Let's go bottom line across the room desires like,

2191
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 1: are we really truly honest with what we want out

2192
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:47,800
Speaker 1: of life? Steve, Steve Mandel Sugar Steve.

2193
01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:51,720
Speaker 3: What is it that you want out of life? To

2194
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 3: be honestly, what do you want? You go to him

2195
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 3: first of this, because I know it's gonna be hilarious.

2196
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:06,080
Speaker 5: Pass think about it.

2197
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:09,080
Speaker 3: I mean, but I think there's an instinct in all

2198
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 3: of us that truly knows what we want.

2199
01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 5: I mean in what regard the personal relationships or professional.

2200
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 3: Like, at what point? At what point are we like

2201
01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:28,760
Speaker 3: I'm satisfied, I'm gonna stop. I know what happens. I

2202
01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:29,280
Speaker 3: don't think it.

2203
01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 8: I don't think you ever stopped. Yeah, I don't think

2204
01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:36,439
Speaker 8: you ever stopped. I think you just can reach a

2205
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 8: point of complacency. Yeah, right, you stop chasing. It's like

2206
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:43,599
Speaker 8: the Bill Withers thing where he's like, you know, if

2207
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:45,880
Speaker 8: you're going through when you're when you're going through life.

2208
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,800
Speaker 8: If you're on your way to excellent, right at some

2209
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:50,800
Speaker 8: point you're gonna get pretty good. And once you get

2210
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:53,080
Speaker 8: to pretty good, look around, because that may be as

2211
01:52:53,120 --> 01:52:55,640
Speaker 8: far as you're gonna go. So it's just kind of like,

2212
01:52:56,479 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 8: I don't think no one ever stops, but you have

2213
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 8: to think at some point right now, if my life

2214
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:04,960
Speaker 8: doesn't go past just being able to talk ship with

2215
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:11,519
Speaker 8: questlove and two Jews, have my Jewish brothers, you know

2216
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:13,880
Speaker 8: what I'm saying, like in a room and electric lady,

2217
01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:15,479
Speaker 8: just being able to talk ship with.

2218
01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:19,439
Speaker 3: My homies and have like anyone's exploded in the room

2219
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:20,240
Speaker 3: behind me as.

2220
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:24,200
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, we're still an he's not read anymore, he's

2221
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:24,599
Speaker 6: not ready.

2222
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:28,320
Speaker 1: No, But I'm saying, if my life doesn't go past

2223
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:30,400
Speaker 1: this point, it's like, yo, I'm good.

2224
01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:33,720
Speaker 3: I get to make a living fucking with people. I

2225
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:38,200
Speaker 3: really you know, love and respect and ship like what else?

2226
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:39,240
Speaker 5: I got my answer?

2227
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:45,000
Speaker 11: Okay, inspired the Elvis album. We did an album with

2228
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:45,759
Speaker 11: Elvis Costello.

2229
01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 3: All right, So you're just you're contenting.

2230
01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:53,440
Speaker 11: Me when your achievements surpassed your dreams.

2231
01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 1: So you got to produce your idol so you don't

2232
01:53:56,960 --> 01:53:59,320
Speaker 1: feel like now, like, okay, next record.

2233
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:01,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, there's more he's gonna do. He's gonna do another

2234
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:03,439
Speaker 11: song that I wrote the lyrics for us.

2235
01:54:03,439 --> 01:54:04,920
Speaker 5: So it gets it gets bigger than.

2236
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 3: You know strug girl.

2237
01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:17,439
Speaker 5: But that's all bounced with.

2238
01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 11: You know, you gotta keep the family situation harmonious and

2239
01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:25,479
Speaker 11: you know, keep the regular work job going. And if

2240
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:29,320
Speaker 11: all those things are cool, then you know you're cool.

2241
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 13: I think so, all right, a buch of sugar being right,

2242
01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:40,800
Speaker 13: can we just let one episode without diabetes being mentioned?

2243
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:41,200
Speaker 3: Please?

2244
01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:41,480
Speaker 4: No?

2245
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 3: Bill? Yeah, what do you want outline besides getting.

2246
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 5: Laid, which ain't gonna have.

2247
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:51,320
Speaker 3: That's it. It's gonna happen, man, It's gonna happen.

2248
01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:53,440
Speaker 2: Thank you well to talk about that.

2249
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 6: Uh.

2250
01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:55,840
Speaker 2: I feel like we've all been working so hard to

2251
01:54:55,880 --> 01:54:57,800
Speaker 2: get through a place where we can plateau, not like

2252
01:54:57,880 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 2: plateau in a negative sense, but then like, you worked

2253
01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 2: so hard to get to this place where you can

2254
01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:04,920
Speaker 2: do what you want. And I think that that's that

2255
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:08,600
Speaker 2: was always my my desire was, like I I did

2256
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:11,080
Speaker 2: not intend to get involved in any of the things

2257
01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:11,760
Speaker 2: I'm involved in.

2258
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:17,920
Speaker 9: Yes, okay, but if you fulfill your ghetto, we're not

2259
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:21,640
Speaker 9: doing If you get your If you get your OH,

2260
01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:23,480
Speaker 9: then will you be like.

2261
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:26,120
Speaker 3: I did it? That's it.

2262
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:28,040
Speaker 2: I think I'd like to get the OH so that

2263
01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:31,040
Speaker 2: we could stop talking about it more than more than

2264
01:55:31,120 --> 01:55:31,840
Speaker 2: actually getting it.

2265
01:55:33,320 --> 01:55:33,520
Speaker 7: In the.

2266
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:40,120
Speaker 2: Oscar.

2267
01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:41,480
Speaker 7: You don't have an oscar.

2268
01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 2: That's like the most potentious bullshit, like I.

2269
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:47,960
Speaker 7: Don't have an oscar.

2270
01:55:50,360 --> 01:55:50,840
Speaker 3: You know how many?

2271
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:53,240
Speaker 7: You know how many great films don't have oscars?

2272
01:55:53,400 --> 01:55:53,760
Speaker 2: How many?

2273
01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 7: So many?

2274
01:55:58,160 --> 01:56:04,360
Speaker 3: Like I feel like I'm superficial for desires, you know,

2275
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:05,120
Speaker 3: I don't think.

2276
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:14,440
Speaker 7: I think, well, I don't know. I mean, there's this

2277
01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 7: Angela Duckworth wrote this column for The Times recently, where

2278
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:23,120
Speaker 7: she said, when you're to college graduates, she said, I

2279
01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 7: don't recommend you. I won't ask yourself what do I

2280
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 7: want to be when I grow up? Ask yourself what's

2281
01:56:28,600 --> 01:56:30,920
Speaker 7: the world I want to live in? And how can

2282
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:34,040
Speaker 7: I help make that happen? And I feel like, now

2283
01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:36,360
Speaker 7: in my late thirties, I'm starting to be like, that's

2284
01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 7: what I want to do. I just want to figure

2285
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:38,920
Speaker 7: out how can I help?

2286
01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, that's I got a list, So skip Fico

2287
01:56:46,600 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 3: and Bill, let's go.

2288
01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:49,720
Speaker 6: Oh No, I'm in a list for Mike to help.

2289
01:56:50,120 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 6: But what you want, don't get Bill, let's.

2290
01:56:57,720 --> 01:56:58,720
Speaker 3: My my my.

2291
01:56:58,920 --> 01:57:03,600
Speaker 1: What I want my ultimately is to make as much

2292
01:57:03,680 --> 01:57:06,160
Speaker 1: money as I can behind the scenes, so I can

2293
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:07,240
Speaker 1: only leave my house when I.

2294
01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:09,960
Speaker 3: Feel like it. So that's real good.

2295
01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:12,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, to make as much to have enough money to

2296
01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 8: where I don't gotta leave my house like and be seen.

2297
01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:16,960
Speaker 8: That is real, you know what I mean.

2298
01:57:17,080 --> 01:57:19,640
Speaker 3: So that's that's awesome. Yeah, that's what That's also what

2299
01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 3: I want, you know what I mean.

2300
01:57:20,720 --> 01:57:24,440
Speaker 8: It's just I think sometimes you know, when we as desires,

2301
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:25,640
Speaker 8: like you know how Mike you was saying, you know,

2302
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:27,880
Speaker 8: in your twenties, you think, man, I'm gonna do this

2303
01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 8: at twenty four. For me, it was very much a

2304
01:57:31,000 --> 01:57:35,120
Speaker 8: thing where I think sometimes you know, whatever your belief God,

2305
01:57:35,280 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 8: you know, whatever the universe, how do you want to

2306
01:57:37,240 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 8: phrase it? I think sometimes people, you know, in life

2307
01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:42,800
Speaker 8: you'll get what you asked for, but not what you

2308
01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:44,520
Speaker 8: want it, you know what I mean. It's kind of

2309
01:57:44,600 --> 01:57:46,480
Speaker 8: like the Henry Ford thing of like if I asked,

2310
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:48,320
Speaker 8: if I would have asked the public what they wanted,

2311
01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:51,080
Speaker 8: they to ask for a faster horse, you know what

2312
01:57:51,080 --> 01:57:53,520
Speaker 8: I mean. So sometimes I think in life you can

2313
01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 8: say if you're that young kid and you just think, Yo,

2314
01:57:56,160 --> 01:57:57,520
Speaker 8: I want a record deal. I want to record I

2315
01:57:57,560 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 8: want to record deal. I want to record deal. And

2316
01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:01,240
Speaker 8: you get the record deal and then you realize, oh

2317
01:58:01,280 --> 01:58:04,200
Speaker 8: my god, this is ship. So then in the midst

2318
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:06,200
Speaker 8: of that record deal you realize, you know, what what

2319
01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:09,720
Speaker 8: I really want is freedom. But you don't get that

2320
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:12,160
Speaker 8: until you don't get the lesson, until you get that

2321
01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:14,240
Speaker 8: thing that you thought that you really wanted.

2322
01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 3: So for me, I'm just at a point where I

2323
01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:19,760
Speaker 3: was like, you know, I admire I like my privacy.

2324
01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:22,160
Speaker 3: I like just you know, laying low. I really don't

2325
01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:25,800
Speaker 3: do people like that. You know what I'm saying. I

2326
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:28,720
Speaker 3: prefer just close company, just people you know, I do

2327
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:36,400
Speaker 3: being kicked yea and everything.

2328
01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:40,080
Speaker 8: His answer is my answer, get my bread and just

2329
01:58:40,160 --> 01:58:42,120
Speaker 8: be able to lay low. And you ain't got to

2330
01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:44,040
Speaker 8: know my name, you ain't got to know. Just know

2331
01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:46,320
Speaker 8: my work and know where it's my checks.

2332
01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:48,080
Speaker 3: That's it. I want to be the kind of guy

2333
01:58:48,120 --> 01:58:49,920
Speaker 3: that can shut a sight down like Gawker, just you know,

2334
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:55,400
Speaker 3: pure spite, Yo, who are you?

2335
01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:04,920
Speaker 9: You can't be like the mental terrorists Like I'm like,

2336
01:59:04,960 --> 01:59:06,400
Speaker 9: I just want to be able to do my thing.

2337
01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 9: You know how I want to do it without all

2338
01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:13,320
Speaker 9: the extra hullabaloo and recognition. I want to be a

2339
01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:17,120
Speaker 9: little you know, be a regular person, but you know

2340
01:59:17,240 --> 01:59:18,520
Speaker 9: that just does extraordinary shit.

2341
01:59:19,760 --> 01:59:22,560
Speaker 6: Oh okay, so let me look at my list I

2342
01:59:22,600 --> 01:59:27,480
Speaker 6: would like to own. I would like a house in Brazil,

2343
01:59:27,680 --> 01:59:28,400
Speaker 6: a house.

2344
01:59:28,160 --> 01:59:28,560
Speaker 3: In d C.

2345
01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:31,320
Speaker 6: And in all seriousness that I do want a house

2346
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:32,280
Speaker 6: in Brazil and house in DC.

2347
01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:36,200
Speaker 10: But I'd just like to get again. I've been doing good.

2348
01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:38,080
Speaker 10: I was doing good getting paid to be myself.

2349
01:59:38,120 --> 01:59:38,440
Speaker 3: I like that.

2350
01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:39,680
Speaker 6: I would like to be able to really make a

2351
01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:40,960
Speaker 6: living off with that. That'd be great.

2352
01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:44,160
Speaker 10: And for a man to say one day, hey, would

2353
01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:48,040
Speaker 10: you marry me? Because you know, it's just I heard

2354
01:59:48,080 --> 01:59:48,720
Speaker 10: that's kind of nice.

2355
01:59:48,760 --> 01:59:49,480
Speaker 6: What a dude does that.

2356
01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:52,000
Speaker 10: Don't mean to get all girly on y'all when it

2357
01:59:52,120 --> 01:59:53,920
Speaker 10: never happens and you're at a certain age.

2358
01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:55,360
Speaker 6: You're like, and then I'd like to use this little

2359
01:59:55,440 --> 02:00:01,840
Speaker 6: coaching here for a little baby unusable to use this.

2360
02:00:03,400 --> 02:00:04,600
Speaker 2: Or you know, like a.

2361
02:00:06,920 --> 02:00:09,760
Speaker 6: Firm, I will take anybody. I have a couple of

2362
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:12,440
Speaker 6: short lists, lady.

2363
02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:14,480
Speaker 3: And that's another episode of.

2364
02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:18,080
Speaker 12: Steve.

2365
02:00:18,160 --> 02:00:22,920
Speaker 6: You don't have any babies, do you? That sugar hereditary

2366
02:00:23,000 --> 02:00:25,040
Speaker 6: or is it no, that was that was man made.

2367
02:00:28,200 --> 02:00:29,400
Speaker 3: We'll talk across.

2368
02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:34,200
Speaker 5: I'll give you one sperm, the.

2369
02:00:34,240 --> 02:00:41,920
Speaker 1: Little swimmer that could never had. Okay, yeah, I just

2370
02:00:42,040 --> 02:00:43,160
Speaker 1: want this episode to be.

2371
02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:47,040
Speaker 7: Wait, but but meir, what do you want?

2372
02:00:47,120 --> 02:00:50,400
Speaker 3: What do you want? Now? I feel like my life

2373
02:00:50,480 --> 02:00:54,120
Speaker 3: is superficial? Go in, go in like you in the circle.

2374
02:00:54,240 --> 02:00:56,480
Speaker 9: Now, well, okay, let me look before you preface it, like,

2375
02:00:56,640 --> 02:01:00,200
Speaker 9: you have a skill set that a lot of us

2376
02:01:00,280 --> 02:01:03,280
Speaker 9: don't have, and we can't make money off of our

2377
02:01:03,320 --> 02:01:05,360
Speaker 9: skill set the way that you can. So you know,

2378
02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:09,000
Speaker 9: if if you feel like you know, you're ones a

2379
02:01:09,040 --> 02:01:12,720
Speaker 9: little bit more superficial, I'm not mad at that because.

2380
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Speaker 3: You have them. You got a lot more tools to

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Speaker 3: work with.

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Speaker 8: It's like, dude, no, seriously, it's like because you DJ

2383
02:01:17,600 --> 02:01:21,280
Speaker 8: and you your incredible drummer and you're famous, so it's

2384
02:01:21,360 --> 02:01:23,160
Speaker 8: like you almost okay do I'm gonna tell you. I

2385
02:01:23,240 --> 02:01:27,040
Speaker 8: know you have your Mario with the with the mushroom,

2386
02:01:27,920 --> 02:01:29,919
Speaker 8: with the big mushroom and the flower.

2387
02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:33,680
Speaker 1: When you shoot out the fucking fireball, you're super like

2388
02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:37,320
Speaker 1: you're super Mario with all the fucking your powers, all

2389
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Speaker 1: your powers.

2390
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Speaker 9: All that shit is relative. Okay, how so it's relative. Okay,

2391
02:01:43,160 --> 02:01:44,720
Speaker 9: so how can I make a million dollars off of

2392
02:01:44,760 --> 02:01:45,360
Speaker 9: my skill set?

2393
02:01:47,560 --> 02:01:52,320
Speaker 3: Well that's the thing because if you're thirty eight years old.

2394
02:01:53,720 --> 02:01:57,400
Speaker 1: And you say, okay, well here's my final plan, and

2395
02:01:57,440 --> 02:02:00,800
Speaker 1: da da da da da, I don't know. I'm just

2396
02:02:00,880 --> 02:02:03,840
Speaker 1: saying that, I like putting a cap on it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't see.

2398
02:02:05,720 --> 02:02:09,360
Speaker 1: I didn't even imagine that that part of my life

2399
02:02:09,480 --> 02:02:12,840
Speaker 1: was ever going to happen. I mean, who starts winning

2400
02:02:13,040 --> 02:02:13,920
Speaker 1: at forty four?

2401
02:02:14,320 --> 02:02:14,480
Speaker 7: Man?

2402
02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:17,520
Speaker 3: Yo, everybody, we just had this conversation.

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02:02:18,760 --> 02:02:21,600
Speaker 6: Forty four you are now, dude, we just.

2404
02:02:21,600 --> 02:02:25,360
Speaker 8: Had I had this conversation with Carl Dude, like actor, right,

2405
02:02:25,480 --> 02:02:28,040
Speaker 8: Steve Carrell. We were talking about with Steve Carrell. You know,

2406
02:02:28,440 --> 02:02:29,440
Speaker 8: he didn't really start popping.

2407
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:35,760
Speaker 3: He was forty fucking Morgan Freeman. He ain't starting he

2408
02:02:35,920 --> 02:02:38,320
Speaker 3: was god damn sixty shit, you know what I mean?

2409
02:02:38,560 --> 02:02:43,240
Speaker 1: Like, all right, my, my, my, real. I don't know

2410
02:02:43,280 --> 02:02:48,120
Speaker 1: if it's because of this mantra. All right, there's there's

2411
02:02:48,160 --> 02:02:51,480
Speaker 1: a Spin magazine that Spike Lee was on the cover

2412
02:02:51,560 --> 02:02:53,040
Speaker 1: of back in nineteen ninety two.

2413
02:02:54,280 --> 02:02:56,960
Speaker 3: That's just like the Bible to me? Was that the

2414
02:02:57,120 --> 02:02:58,400
Speaker 3: one he edited?

2415
02:02:58,560 --> 02:03:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, they let Spike Lee edit when Mo Beta Blues

2416
02:03:02,680 --> 02:03:04,200
Speaker 1: came out or a Jungle Fever.

2417
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:07,480
Speaker 3: The Spin magazine, and.

2418
02:03:07,560 --> 02:03:11,680
Speaker 1: He gave an article to Harry Allen Chuffdee to Wright,

2419
02:03:12,560 --> 02:03:18,800
Speaker 1: of which those two accurately predicted what their life would

2420
02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:20,520
Speaker 1: be like in twenty years now.

2421
02:03:20,520 --> 02:03:25,560
Speaker 3: It was nineteen ninety and you know, the Bomb Squad

2422
02:03:25,600 --> 02:03:28,040
Speaker 3: and public Enemy was so damn ubiquitous, like.

2423
02:03:28,120 --> 02:03:32,240
Speaker 1: Between Bell DeVos poison, if you have a black planet,

2424
02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:35,800
Speaker 1: Ice cubes. America's most wanted the Juice soundtrack like they

2425
02:03:35,880 --> 02:03:37,640
Speaker 1: were the stand they were the gold standard what the

2426
02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:38,280
Speaker 1: hip hop was.

2427
02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:43,080
Speaker 3: And they said, we're probably going to fall off in

2428
02:03:43,320 --> 02:03:47,560
Speaker 3: about three to four years. Wow, Then our contemporaries will

2429
02:03:49,680 --> 02:03:51,760
Speaker 3: sort of discard us out the window.

2430
02:03:53,720 --> 02:03:56,600
Speaker 1: The very first time I ever heard of, because Harry

2431
02:03:56,680 --> 02:03:59,840
Speaker 1: is such a nerd, the idea of the information super high.

2432
02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:04,040
Speaker 1: You know, we will probably be you know, be kicked

2433
02:04:04,080 --> 02:04:07,720
Speaker 1: off our label, so we'll be forced to sell records.

2434
02:04:07,360 --> 02:04:07,880
Speaker 3: On our own.

2435
02:04:08,600 --> 02:04:10,920
Speaker 1: They went with this whole thing, and Chuck's whole thing

2436
02:04:11,080 --> 02:04:12,760
Speaker 1: was like, well, not to be a total kill joy,

2437
02:04:12,880 --> 02:04:16,839
Speaker 1: but you know, I'm also in this business.

2438
02:04:16,960 --> 02:04:22,160
Speaker 3: My endgame is to create five thousand black leaders.

2439
02:04:22,880 --> 02:04:23,120
Speaker 7: Wow.

2440
02:04:23,320 --> 02:04:25,920
Speaker 3: And so I thought, hmm, maybe I could be a

2441
02:04:25,960 --> 02:04:27,800
Speaker 3: black leader that that sort of thing.

2442
02:04:28,560 --> 02:04:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounded lofty and kind of just like weird,

2443
02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:35,600
Speaker 1: like the idea of meditating or whatever. I just read

2444
02:04:35,640 --> 02:04:38,640
Speaker 1: it as like this seems a little bitter and whatever.

2445
02:04:39,240 --> 02:04:43,960
Speaker 1: But then I realized, like, oh man, that's some legacy shit.

2446
02:04:44,080 --> 02:04:45,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's powerful.

2447
02:04:45,440 --> 02:04:48,760
Speaker 1: That's some real legacy shit. Well one, they were in

2448
02:04:48,880 --> 02:04:52,200
Speaker 1: that miss that eighteen point missions. They were ninety nine

2449
02:04:52,240 --> 02:04:56,000
Speaker 1: percent correct of what life was gonna was gonna be

2450
02:04:56,200 --> 02:05:00,120
Speaker 1: in two thousand and two. But at that I I

2451
02:05:00,280 --> 02:05:08,600
Speaker 1: guess my my, I guess my goal is to.

2452
02:05:10,880 --> 02:05:16,240
Speaker 3: Create unmovable, unerasable graffiti.

2453
02:05:16,640 --> 02:05:17,200
Speaker 7: That's nice.

2454
02:05:18,520 --> 02:05:23,400
Speaker 1: So you don't think you've done that already. I mean

2455
02:05:23,560 --> 02:05:30,360
Speaker 1: at the rate where my last class where six of

2456
02:05:30,480 --> 02:05:32,360
Speaker 1: my eighteen students.

2457
02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:35,920
Speaker 3: Never heard of Thriller.

2458
02:05:36,760 --> 02:05:39,800
Speaker 1: That scared me because now I'm realizing that, you know,

2459
02:05:39,880 --> 02:05:42,080
Speaker 1: it's one thing where it's like, Okay, you might forget

2460
02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:44,920
Speaker 1: EPMD's fourth record, you ain't forgetting.

2461
02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:47,960
Speaker 3: But now we got a generation that may or may

2462
02:05:48,200 --> 02:05:49,160
Speaker 3: not know.

2463
02:05:50,600 --> 02:05:53,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate to say that Prince had to

2464
02:05:53,640 --> 02:05:57,600
Speaker 1: go through his transitional process to be forever etched in

2465
02:05:57,680 --> 02:06:01,400
Speaker 1: the memory of a lot of people that he otherwise,

2466
02:06:01,640 --> 02:06:03,600
Speaker 1: especially with the way he was going with the you know,

2467
02:06:03,840 --> 02:06:08,480
Speaker 1: being off the internet and stuff, you know, like basic

2468
02:06:08,560 --> 02:06:10,400
Speaker 1: things that we should take for granted, Like there might

2469
02:06:10,480 --> 02:06:15,120
Speaker 1: be a time in twenty sixty where Thriller might not matter.

2470
02:06:16,200 --> 02:06:19,880
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, something like thrillering the greatest

2471
02:06:19,920 --> 02:06:23,680
Speaker 3: selling of album. You know. It's just that's scary to me.

2472
02:06:23,920 --> 02:06:28,480
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to but what has lasted? I mean

2473
02:06:28,600 --> 02:06:31,440
Speaker 3: other than I mean a song, like I mean happy Birthday?

2474
02:06:31,560 --> 02:06:34,440
Speaker 7: I mean what, Yeah, that's there's a whole book about this. Recently,

2475
02:06:36,240 --> 02:06:41,000
Speaker 7: Chuck Klosterman wrote about what is in what becomes history

2476
02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:44,560
Speaker 7: now and he was saying, like, of all the music

2477
02:06:44,680 --> 02:06:49,560
Speaker 7: that exists right now, probably Marching Band Wow, because it's ubiquitous.

2478
02:06:49,600 --> 02:06:53,040
Speaker 7: It's in everything. It's ever, every football game, every every movie.

2479
02:06:53,800 --> 02:06:59,560
Speaker 3: Will never stop. That's like the Tuxedo of no. I think.

2480
02:07:00,640 --> 02:07:00,960
Speaker 3: I don't.

2481
02:07:01,040 --> 02:07:05,240
Speaker 1: I don't think whatever. My contribution that will last is

2482
02:07:05,600 --> 02:07:11,920
Speaker 1: in music, so uh, you know, I you know, is

2483
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:16,800
Speaker 1: it in the food world, is it in radio? Is

2484
02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:20,400
Speaker 1: it in creating drum sets for for kids?

2485
02:07:20,560 --> 02:07:22,840
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think you have to keep going though,

2486
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:24,440
Speaker 3: I think you have to just you know, when we

2487
02:07:24,560 --> 02:07:26,080
Speaker 3: say like not stopping. It's not.

2488
02:07:26,280 --> 02:07:28,360
Speaker 8: It's just you got to use all the tools in

2489
02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:30,800
Speaker 8: your toolbox because you never know which one is going

2490
02:07:30,840 --> 02:07:33,360
Speaker 8: to knock the wall down or knock a wall down,

2491
02:07:33,440 --> 02:07:36,080
Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. So it could be it

2492
02:07:36,120 --> 02:07:38,320
Speaker 8: could be your fried chicken. I mean, who the fuck knows? Right,

2493
02:07:38,400 --> 02:07:41,720
Speaker 8: It just you have to just keep keep going, goy

2494
02:07:41,880 --> 02:07:42,680
Speaker 8: laugh like I did.

2495
02:07:42,960 --> 02:07:46,000
Speaker 3: I double dog did not be your chicken. That's what I'm.

2496
02:07:48,160 --> 02:07:49,080
Speaker 6: Legcy quest left.

2497
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:50,160
Speaker 3: But that would be the black.

2498
02:07:51,720 --> 02:07:55,600
Speaker 7: I feel it's disingenuous of me to just say what

2499
02:07:56,120 --> 02:07:58,400
Speaker 7: my goals were without pointing out that, like, I'm also

2500
02:07:58,520 --> 02:08:03,320
Speaker 7: like ambitious and I want things, but also like you know,

2501
02:08:04,120 --> 02:08:06,680
Speaker 7: I don't know, like I I have some Jack and

2502
02:08:06,800 --> 02:08:10,360
Speaker 7: me too, like the Jack character in Me Too. I mean,

2503
02:08:10,440 --> 02:08:12,880
Speaker 7: if my wife were here, she would like yell at

2504
02:08:12,920 --> 02:08:14,520
Speaker 7: me for my answer and be like, that's not what

2505
02:08:14,600 --> 02:08:18,880
Speaker 7: you're like at all. You're ambitious, you're selfish things.

2506
02:08:18,920 --> 02:08:21,080
Speaker 3: You have to be Jack to write a movie.

2507
02:08:21,240 --> 02:08:24,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, and direct a movie yeah, and starting it. Yeah

2508
02:08:25,120 --> 02:08:28,800
Speaker 7: you are. I got some of it.

2509
02:08:28,920 --> 02:08:39,120
Speaker 1: In We're Here with Mikerobiglia, creator and star of Don't

2510
02:08:39,200 --> 02:08:42,840
Speaker 1: Think Twice and also sleep Walk with me and a

2511
02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:44,680
Speaker 1: gazillion other projects.

2512
02:08:46,400 --> 02:08:52,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, well Orange's new and anyone else wanted.

2513
02:08:51,800 --> 02:08:59,840
Speaker 8: To Uh Twitter Bacheler of Suicide Squad, I felt join that.

2514
02:09:00,400 --> 02:09:02,680
Speaker 7: Thank you. I got mad at m p a A

2515
02:09:02,800 --> 02:09:09,360
Speaker 7: Because they gave me a R Yeah thirteen for smokeing

2516
02:09:09,440 --> 02:09:10,600
Speaker 7: adult smoking weed.

2517
02:09:11,040 --> 02:09:11,320
Speaker 3: Wow?

2518
02:09:11,720 --> 02:09:12,520
Speaker 7: Is that crazy?

2519
02:09:14,200 --> 02:09:14,680
Speaker 2: N p A A.

2520
02:09:14,800 --> 02:09:18,040
Speaker 7: Man, there's a crazy movie. There's a crazy documentary about that.

2521
02:09:20,360 --> 02:09:24,240
Speaker 7: This This movie is not yet raided and it's everdent.

2522
02:09:24,160 --> 02:09:26,080
Speaker 3: Hed that so wait, what is the process?

2523
02:09:26,200 --> 02:09:26,240
Speaker 4: Like?

2524
02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:28,040
Speaker 7: It's not available anywhere?

2525
02:09:28,520 --> 02:09:29,800
Speaker 3: Is it? The Four Old People?

2526
02:09:30,480 --> 02:09:33,480
Speaker 7: I swear to god, it's so hard. I know, I know,

2527
02:09:33,600 --> 02:09:34,640
Speaker 7: but now it's pulled off.

2528
02:09:35,240 --> 02:09:37,880
Speaker 1: I feel like, is it like the Huey Lewis High

2529
02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:40,640
Speaker 1: School Committee and Back to the Future that watches your movie.

2530
02:09:40,720 --> 02:09:44,120
Speaker 7: It's like eight people according to this movie. This movie

2531
02:09:44,200 --> 02:09:46,440
Speaker 7: is not yet rated. It's like eight people and they've

2532
02:09:46,440 --> 02:09:49,160
Speaker 7: been doing it forever, and I think it. It has

2533
02:09:49,200 --> 02:09:52,120
Speaker 7: sort of a moralistic bent to it, you know, And

2534
02:09:52,520 --> 02:09:56,040
Speaker 7: a lot of times they'll give notes in the movie.

2535
02:09:56,080 --> 02:09:59,280
Speaker 7: They'll be like, uh, we should only see her orgasming

2536
02:09:59,440 --> 02:10:02,400
Speaker 7: for eight seconds and not eleven seconds.

2537
02:10:03,160 --> 02:10:08,480
Speaker 5: And it's like Bill Sherman's yeah, yeah, that's crazy.

2538
02:10:08,640 --> 02:10:12,320
Speaker 3: That's crazy. Yeah, well so these eight people watch every

2539
02:10:12,760 --> 02:10:13,240
Speaker 3: very movie.

2540
02:10:13,320 --> 02:10:15,680
Speaker 7: Yeah movie, Yeah, so what if.

2541
02:10:15,600 --> 02:10:20,680
Speaker 3: Your film like is shown at like one in the

2542
02:10:20,760 --> 02:10:23,640
Speaker 3: morning or something like. I feel like it also depends

2543
02:10:24,000 --> 02:10:25,440
Speaker 3: the talented people.

2544
02:10:25,440 --> 02:10:28,120
Speaker 7: Just play at art houses. You can have your movie

2545
02:10:28,200 --> 02:10:31,360
Speaker 7: be not rated, but then it'll it may not it

2546
02:10:31,440 --> 02:10:34,680
Speaker 7: may not end upwhere Yeah, they can't play a movie

2547
02:10:34,760 --> 02:10:35,560
Speaker 7: theater or that kind of thing.

2548
02:10:36,400 --> 02:10:38,640
Speaker 3: So you wanted this to be PEG thirteen.

2549
02:10:39,080 --> 02:10:42,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, because there's it's harmless. I feel like teenagers can

2550
02:10:42,200 --> 02:10:44,640
Speaker 7: watch it and there's nothing to it. I mean, it's

2551
02:10:44,720 --> 02:10:47,040
Speaker 7: just a story about friends. Like I wanted it to

2552
02:10:47,120 --> 02:10:49,280
Speaker 7: be like a big chill or like a sant almost

2553
02:10:49,320 --> 02:10:52,000
Speaker 7: fire kind of movie for this generation. So I'm like

2554
02:10:52,400 --> 02:10:55,400
Speaker 7: the fact that they're kind of making it like taboo

2555
02:10:55,600 --> 02:10:57,400
Speaker 7: for anyone's it's just kind of annoying.

2556
02:10:57,600 --> 02:10:59,600
Speaker 8: I think it's an adult movie, but it's not like

2557
02:10:59,760 --> 02:11:02,400
Speaker 8: a vulgar There's nothing in it that I thought warrants

2558
02:11:02,480 --> 02:11:03,440
Speaker 8: it and already.

2559
02:11:03,320 --> 02:11:04,200
Speaker 6: He makes it real.

2560
02:11:05,280 --> 02:11:06,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, I felt about it.

2561
02:11:07,680 --> 02:11:10,200
Speaker 1: But the thing was the main thing that turned me

2562
02:11:10,320 --> 02:11:15,840
Speaker 1: off about Suicide Squad was as PG thirteen, I was

2563
02:11:15,920 --> 02:11:18,240
Speaker 1: just like just lame, Like if it were are then

2564
02:11:18,280 --> 02:11:22,080
Speaker 1: I'd be like a word, okay, I would you know,

2565
02:11:22,120 --> 02:11:25,200
Speaker 1: I have the desire to see it, but I did.

2566
02:11:25,320 --> 02:11:28,760
Speaker 11: I know why yours is are because you point out

2567
02:11:28,840 --> 02:11:31,600
Speaker 11: how all the pettiness and adults.

2568
02:11:33,040 --> 02:11:35,120
Speaker 5: People can handle it Like that was the most disturbing

2569
02:11:35,480 --> 02:11:35,920
Speaker 5: part to me.

2570
02:11:36,240 --> 02:11:40,280
Speaker 11: And really the most memorable part was how they were friends, obviously,

2571
02:11:40,920 --> 02:11:45,400
Speaker 11: but but there you know, there's that there's that party

2572
02:11:45,440 --> 02:11:48,120
Speaker 11: that's rooting for your friend, that part that's jealous and

2573
02:11:48,320 --> 02:11:51,280
Speaker 11: all living side by side and comes out, you know,

2574
02:11:51,400 --> 02:11:53,520
Speaker 11: like when when the people in your movie say, oh,

2575
02:11:53,560 --> 02:11:55,200
Speaker 11: I just got this the gig or I got the

2576
02:11:55,240 --> 02:11:57,640
Speaker 11: writing gig or whatever, and there's there's moments of like

2577
02:11:58,520 --> 02:12:00,280
Speaker 11: nobody knows what to say because what you they want

2578
02:12:00,280 --> 02:12:02,040
Speaker 11: to say this fuckhy not me.

2579
02:12:02,960 --> 02:12:05,360
Speaker 7: A crazy thing about my movie is that I don't

2580
02:12:06,000 --> 02:12:08,040
Speaker 7: it's great to talk about it because I can't watch

2581
02:12:08,080 --> 02:12:11,120
Speaker 7: anymore because I get choked up. I like start crying

2582
02:12:11,160 --> 02:12:13,360
Speaker 7: every time because I feel like I relate to all

2583
02:12:13,400 --> 02:12:15,080
Speaker 7: the characters. I feel sad for them.

2584
02:12:15,480 --> 02:12:17,240
Speaker 3: What's the moment in the movie that you must relate

2585
02:12:17,320 --> 02:12:19,720
Speaker 3: to when.

2586
02:12:21,560 --> 02:12:23,440
Speaker 7: The final scene with Jack and Sam?

2587
02:12:24,680 --> 02:12:27,800
Speaker 1: But wait, I was gonna say I was for a second,

2588
02:12:28,040 --> 02:12:31,520
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to make Jack sabotage his

2589
02:12:31,960 --> 02:12:32,440
Speaker 1: moment too.

2590
02:12:32,560 --> 02:12:33,960
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, nah fuck.

2591
02:12:38,640 --> 02:12:41,120
Speaker 3: But for a second he was like, maybe I won't

2592
02:12:41,200 --> 02:12:44,520
Speaker 3: take the train of mine. Dude, Lauren's going to kill you.

2593
02:12:44,720 --> 02:12:45,680
Speaker 3: But not Lauren, but.

2594
02:12:45,760 --> 02:12:49,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean Timothy Timothy.

2595
02:12:49,960 --> 02:12:50,840
Speaker 3: So Timothy was.

2596
02:12:50,920 --> 02:12:55,720
Speaker 1: Rather kind of douchy though, which I felt like you

2597
02:12:55,880 --> 02:12:58,480
Speaker 1: had to make him super doucey so it wouldn't be

2598
02:12:59,640 --> 02:13:02,240
Speaker 1: what you think that Lauren is, because Lauren is the

2599
02:13:02,360 --> 02:13:03,080
Speaker 1: opposite of that.

2600
02:13:03,360 --> 02:13:06,400
Speaker 7: Different, it's different. Yeah, yeah, you know, I just it's

2601
02:13:06,440 --> 02:13:08,440
Speaker 7: his own thing. I just wanted to make the boss

2602
02:13:08,720 --> 02:13:11,040
Speaker 7: like cold, you know what I mean, just like tough.

2603
02:13:11,320 --> 02:13:12,720
Speaker 3: Well where'd that bicycle come from?

2604
02:13:12,920 --> 02:13:13,640
Speaker 5: That was my question.

2605
02:13:14,600 --> 02:13:15,040
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

2606
02:13:15,120 --> 02:13:17,680
Speaker 7: So there's like, yeah, the wooden bicycle in the movie.

2607
02:13:18,560 --> 02:13:22,280
Speaker 7: I live in Brooklyn by this. I always walked by

2608
02:13:22,400 --> 02:13:25,880
Speaker 7: this shop that has like Swedish bicycles, and one day

2609
02:13:26,360 --> 02:13:28,839
Speaker 7: I walked by and it had like a wooden bicycle.

2610
02:13:29,360 --> 02:13:30,920
Speaker 7: I was like, I got to put that in something.

2611
02:13:30,960 --> 02:13:32,880
Speaker 7: It's so funny. It's one of the funniest looking things

2612
02:13:32,880 --> 02:13:33,520
Speaker 7: I've ever seen.

2613
02:13:33,960 --> 02:13:35,000
Speaker 5: Are they like expensive?

2614
02:13:35,160 --> 02:13:36,360
Speaker 3: Is that like? Is that why?

2615
02:13:36,640 --> 02:13:38,640
Speaker 7: Yeah? I think they were like thousands of dollars.

2616
02:13:38,800 --> 02:13:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2617
02:13:39,080 --> 02:13:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the band on the show.

2618
02:13:43,120 --> 02:13:44,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a real band.

2619
02:13:44,440 --> 02:13:45,360
Speaker 3: They were really exciting.

2620
02:13:46,400 --> 02:13:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2621
02:13:46,640 --> 02:13:48,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're called l Yeah.

2622
02:13:48,680 --> 02:13:49,440
Speaker 3: How did you? How did you?

2623
02:13:50,320 --> 02:13:54,880
Speaker 7: I found them? Just like fishing around for new bands.

2624
02:13:54,960 --> 02:13:57,160
Speaker 7: My wife and I just we listened to a lot

2625
02:13:57,200 --> 02:13:59,560
Speaker 7: of new bands and and we just found that band.

2626
02:14:00,400 --> 02:14:06,080
Speaker 5: That's a real band. They were because who sang the

2627
02:14:06,160 --> 02:14:07,240
Speaker 5: Dylan song at the end.

2628
02:14:08,640 --> 02:14:14,560
Speaker 7: It's piano by Roger Neil it's piano instrumental. Who there's

2629
02:14:14,560 --> 02:14:18,640
Speaker 7: a composer, yeah, in the credits and uh. And Dylan

2630
02:14:18,800 --> 02:14:20,960
Speaker 7: was nice enough to I mean I don't I never

2631
02:14:21,000 --> 02:14:23,640
Speaker 7: met Bob Dylan, but he was, you know, his manager,

2632
02:14:24,200 --> 02:14:26,520
Speaker 7: Jeff Rosen, was nice enough to let us have that

2633
02:14:26,640 --> 02:14:30,560
Speaker 7: sound for for next to nothing. It's really generous. I mean,

2634
02:14:30,800 --> 02:14:34,040
Speaker 7: Bob Dylan's really good to independent film like He's I

2635
02:14:34,120 --> 02:14:37,680
Speaker 7: have to say, like that guy is like really gives

2636
02:14:37,720 --> 02:14:39,960
Speaker 7: it up to a lot of movies for very little money.

2637
02:14:40,840 --> 02:14:44,200
Speaker 7: It's nice talk about talk about legacy. He's a guy

2638
02:14:44,240 --> 02:14:47,560
Speaker 7: who's I think very kind of focused on sort of passing,

2639
02:14:47,840 --> 02:14:49,800
Speaker 7: you know, paying it forward to the next generation.

2640
02:14:50,120 --> 02:14:52,520
Speaker 6: Is that like a small collective of no musicians that

2641
02:14:53,040 --> 02:14:54,960
Speaker 6: do kind of kind of cater I don't know.

2642
02:14:55,360 --> 02:15:00,840
Speaker 1: I mean George Clinton, Bob Dylan, is that well, George

2643
02:15:00,880 --> 02:15:07,040
Speaker 1: Clinton always uh uh charged the lowest rate possible for

2644
02:15:08,440 --> 02:15:08,880
Speaker 1: his music.

2645
02:15:09,960 --> 02:15:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of the crack theory, like you give him,

2646
02:15:13,200 --> 02:15:15,600
Speaker 3: get your test. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna comment

2647
02:15:15,680 --> 02:15:22,720
Speaker 3: on that. Why George George George George cleaned himself up.

2648
02:15:22,800 --> 02:15:26,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, oh yeah, but yeah, it's the crack theory.

2649
02:15:26,720 --> 02:15:33,480
Speaker 3: Give you a little taste, yeah, give you taste, and

2650
02:15:33,560 --> 02:15:36,040
Speaker 3: then and then get you addicted, and then he keep

2651
02:15:36,080 --> 02:15:36,480
Speaker 3: coming back.

2652
02:15:36,480 --> 02:15:38,720
Speaker 7: But oh, by the way, Dylan is a great example

2653
02:15:38,800 --> 02:15:44,600
Speaker 7: of the guy who has always he never he never stopped.

2654
02:15:44,600 --> 02:15:48,560
Speaker 7: He kept going. He keeps making new albums. He's not

2655
02:15:48,680 --> 02:15:50,760
Speaker 7: like the Stones. He doesn't go out and do the hits.

2656
02:15:50,800 --> 02:15:53,120
Speaker 7: He's just he keeps like making new music.

2657
02:15:54,000 --> 02:15:56,880
Speaker 3: Side note, the Dylan that I know like the back

2658
02:15:56,920 --> 02:16:02,000
Speaker 3: of my hand, just the Christian era. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2659
02:16:02,200 --> 02:16:02,880
Speaker 3: Christian there.

2660
02:16:02,920 --> 02:16:05,280
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, there's a whole bunch of albums in there.

2661
02:16:05,280 --> 02:16:08,520
Speaker 1: There's a Christian Yeah, there's like four records that between

2662
02:16:08,640 --> 02:16:09,680
Speaker 1: like seventy six.

2663
02:16:09,600 --> 02:16:13,520
Speaker 3: And Infidels, like yeah, yeah, yeah.

2664
02:16:13,640 --> 02:16:15,680
Speaker 1: So when my parents were on their Christian kick with

2665
02:16:15,880 --> 02:16:19,520
Speaker 1: only Christian radio in the house. I thought Bob Dylan

2666
02:16:19,680 --> 02:16:20,880
Speaker 1: was a Christian artist.

2667
02:16:21,240 --> 02:16:23,680
Speaker 7: That's amazing. I didn't know about That's incredible.

2668
02:16:24,520 --> 02:16:26,760
Speaker 9: Didn't didn't deal and also do some records with Full

2669
02:16:26,840 --> 02:16:32,120
Speaker 9: Force and No No with salam Remy and Curtis Blow.

2670
02:16:32,879 --> 02:16:34,800
Speaker 3: Whoa what dog?

2671
02:16:35,040 --> 02:16:40,920
Speaker 1: Salam Remy was Salam's father was a staff person at

2672
02:16:41,000 --> 02:16:46,920
Speaker 1: Mercury so eighty forty five. He was already at like

2673
02:16:47,200 --> 02:16:52,520
Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen years old producing Curtis Blow that America album Wow,

2674
02:16:52,680 --> 02:16:55,920
Speaker 1: the Kingdom Come album backed by popular demand.

2675
02:16:57,000 --> 02:16:59,240
Speaker 3: Salam Remy, salam.

2676
02:16:58,920 --> 02:17:02,640
Speaker 1: Remy at like fifteen sixteen years old. You know, Salamay

2677
02:17:02,680 --> 02:17:04,320
Speaker 1: did the Payback mix, the James.

2678
02:17:04,120 --> 02:17:06,480
Speaker 3: Brown Pai that. Wait, I didn't know that. I didn't

2679
02:17:06,480 --> 02:17:09,000
Speaker 3: know that. I did think that the Payback the Payback mix,

2680
02:17:09,040 --> 02:17:09,520
Speaker 3: which one is it?

2681
02:17:09,720 --> 02:17:13,879
Speaker 9: It's that James Brown Like there's like a James Brown

2682
02:17:14,000 --> 02:17:16,640
Speaker 9: Master Mix. Oh wow, yeah you know it if you

2683
02:17:16,720 --> 02:17:16,960
Speaker 9: heard it.

2684
02:17:19,120 --> 02:17:25,320
Speaker 1: So side rabbit Hole, that's a really big album, Rabbit

2685
02:17:25,959 --> 02:17:29,879
Speaker 1: the rabbit Hole starting quest Questlove's rabbit Hole.

2686
02:17:31,200 --> 02:17:31,520
Speaker 2: Too late.

2687
02:17:31,600 --> 02:17:38,560
Speaker 1: Now Yeah, well, Mike, I I have to say, uh,

2688
02:17:39,640 --> 02:17:45,720
Speaker 1: thank you really a sincere thanks uh for creating a

2689
02:17:46,720 --> 02:17:54,480
Speaker 1: conversation piece and something really universal, like it's rare. It's

2690
02:17:54,600 --> 02:18:01,520
Speaker 1: super rare that, uh that I see or witness something

2691
02:18:02,640 --> 02:18:06,480
Speaker 1: that I totally relate to and they don't necessarily look

2692
02:18:06,640 --> 02:18:09,400
Speaker 1: like me per se, but I totally see myself in

2693
02:18:09,560 --> 02:18:10,200
Speaker 1: those characters.

2694
02:18:10,840 --> 02:18:14,680
Speaker 3: You know. I really I can't thank you enough for it,

2695
02:18:14,920 --> 02:18:16,600
Speaker 3: like that I needed to.

2696
02:18:16,959 --> 02:18:19,640
Speaker 1: I really need to see that film and thank you

2697
02:18:19,840 --> 02:18:21,320
Speaker 1: for creatings.

2698
02:18:22,080 --> 02:18:24,240
Speaker 6: Thanks a lot of thanks for giving up to the

2699
02:18:24,320 --> 02:18:26,640
Speaker 6: improv community too, like that was dope.

2700
02:18:29,240 --> 02:18:31,880
Speaker 7: Thanks for having me on and this is this is

2701
02:18:32,520 --> 02:18:33,200
Speaker 7: this is awesome.

2702
02:18:33,360 --> 02:18:36,480
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you. Go see the movie. Go see yesh.

2703
02:18:36,600 --> 02:18:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah it's twice.

2704
02:18:37,840 --> 02:18:39,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's in It's in like one hundred and fifty

2705
02:18:39,879 --> 02:18:42,400
Speaker 7: theaters in the country right now. And uh, don't think

2706
02:18:42,440 --> 02:18:44,280
Speaker 7: twicemovie dot com if you want to find out where

2707
02:18:44,280 --> 02:18:44,480
Speaker 7: it is.

2708
02:18:44,760 --> 02:18:45,440
Speaker 3: I have to say.

2709
02:18:45,560 --> 02:18:47,840
Speaker 1: This is uh this, this is this is one of

2710
02:18:47,879 --> 02:18:52,920
Speaker 1: them deep cut episodes. I suppose it's one of them

2711
02:18:52,959 --> 02:18:56,680
Speaker 1: deep cuts. All right, So what did you learn Telo today?

2712
02:18:56,840 --> 02:18:57,040
Speaker 7: Man?

2713
02:18:57,360 --> 02:19:01,680
Speaker 8: I learned today that Amir Thompson is one of the

2714
02:19:01,760 --> 02:19:02,959
Speaker 8: most shallow motherfuckers.

2715
02:19:06,760 --> 02:19:11,760
Speaker 3: Fucking paper chasing keep up with the Jones ass fucking.

2716
02:19:12,959 --> 02:19:13,119
Speaker 6: Yo.

2717
02:19:13,440 --> 02:19:20,080
Speaker 3: It's gonna make a great album. Nah manh nah Man.

2718
02:19:20,200 --> 02:19:23,400
Speaker 3: I learned that. I learned that from from Mike.

2719
02:19:23,840 --> 02:19:28,320
Speaker 8: Just that whole man, just that whole thing about the sleepwalking,

2720
02:19:28,440 --> 02:19:31,040
Speaker 8: Like that's just imagine, Like I mean, just having the

2721
02:19:31,120 --> 02:19:34,600
Speaker 8: courage to share something like that and uh, just you know,

2722
02:19:35,200 --> 02:19:37,520
Speaker 8: knowing that you gotta deal with that all your life.

2723
02:19:37,560 --> 02:19:39,000
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just something crazy.

2724
02:19:39,080 --> 02:19:42,600
Speaker 8: But I mean he is definitely one of the favorite

2725
02:19:42,640 --> 02:19:45,280
Speaker 8: people that I've introduced a lot of stuff that he's saying.

2726
02:19:45,840 --> 02:19:48,360
Speaker 8: He I hear myself in that, you know what I'm saying,

2727
02:19:48,360 --> 02:19:51,879
Speaker 8: in terms of getting older, you know, hitting that kind

2728
02:19:51,879 --> 02:19:54,560
Speaker 8: of late thirties, not being old, but just older and

2729
02:19:55,120 --> 02:19:57,080
Speaker 8: just being able to put things in perspective, you know

2730
02:19:57,120 --> 02:20:01,480
Speaker 8: what I'm saying. He was very you know his movie

2731
02:20:01,560 --> 02:20:04,320
Speaker 8: Like hearing him talk about the process of how you know,

2732
02:20:04,520 --> 02:20:06,960
Speaker 8: twenty two working the door at the comedy seller and

2733
02:20:07,120 --> 02:20:09,160
Speaker 8: thinking you're gonna do your first movie bout twenty four,

2734
02:20:09,200 --> 02:20:11,360
Speaker 8: which you don't do it till ten years later. I

2735
02:20:11,440 --> 02:20:14,520
Speaker 8: mean that resonates so much. Man, Like that, you know

2736
02:20:14,680 --> 02:20:17,120
Speaker 8: when people say that the entertainment and this is me

2737
02:20:17,200 --> 02:20:19,880
Speaker 8: in unpaid We've had this conversation on Texas up before

2738
02:20:20,280 --> 02:20:23,199
Speaker 8: when people say that the entertainment, you know, it takes

2739
02:20:23,280 --> 02:20:23,800
Speaker 8: hard work.

2740
02:20:24,280 --> 02:20:27,840
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone ever realizes how much hard work

2741
02:20:27,959 --> 02:20:30,640
Speaker 1: it is. I don't think they realize that. It's like, no,

2742
02:20:30,959 --> 02:20:35,879
Speaker 1: it's gonna be ten, fifteen, twenty years of just fucking

2743
02:20:36,040 --> 02:20:37,800
Speaker 1: slavery until one day.

2744
02:20:37,800 --> 02:20:39,840
Speaker 8: You'll see like and it's like, oh shit, you know

2745
02:20:39,959 --> 02:20:43,520
Speaker 8: we made it. But yeah, man, I learned that a

2746
02:20:43,560 --> 02:20:44,960
Speaker 8: lot of our stories are very similar.

2747
02:20:45,240 --> 02:20:48,800
Speaker 3: Cool big ups to Mic, unpaid Bill, What did you

2748
02:20:48,879 --> 02:20:49,400
Speaker 3: learn today?

2749
02:20:50,000 --> 02:20:52,039
Speaker 2: I learned that I need to keep a running document

2750
02:20:52,160 --> 02:20:58,560
Speaker 2: of Fonte's quotes. Number one, number two I learned, I thought, well,

2751
02:20:58,920 --> 02:21:00,960
Speaker 2: cashing in versus sell out. I thought that was a

2752
02:21:01,000 --> 02:21:03,600
Speaker 2: fascinating idea because I've never ever heard that before.

2753
02:21:03,720 --> 02:21:05,320
Speaker 3: Don't forget pulling out, Well.

2754
02:21:05,240 --> 02:21:05,560
Speaker 5: That's.

2755
02:21:08,200 --> 02:21:13,840
Speaker 2: Nuttingtting. Yeah, you know, and I would, honestly, I would

2756
02:21:13,879 --> 02:21:15,600
Speaker 2: not have watched that movie had we not been here

2757
02:21:15,680 --> 02:21:18,160
Speaker 2: talking to Mike, because I don't ever watch movies because

2758
02:21:18,320 --> 02:21:19,560
Speaker 2: I don't have any goddamn time.

2759
02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:22,080
Speaker 3: But I was like, yeah, you're in the industry.

2760
02:21:22,240 --> 02:21:23,600
Speaker 2: Well I know, but but I don't.

2761
02:21:23,600 --> 02:21:23,880
Speaker 3: I don't.

2762
02:21:24,440 --> 02:21:26,040
Speaker 2: It's the one thing that like is farn to me.

2763
02:21:26,280 --> 02:21:28,480
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't go to the movies. I don't

2764
02:21:28,480 --> 02:21:32,280
Speaker 2: know kids, man, kids, but but I was. I was

2765
02:21:32,320 --> 02:21:34,240
Speaker 2: saying that that I haven't seen a movie like that

2766
02:21:34,280 --> 02:21:36,280
Speaker 2: in a while. That was so universal, that appealed to

2767
02:21:36,400 --> 02:21:39,879
Speaker 2: me in a way that I thought I was almost

2768
02:21:40,920 --> 02:21:42,880
Speaker 2: after I watched it, I was embarrassed coming here and

2769
02:21:42,959 --> 02:21:46,480
Speaker 2: to say to everybody that's about me, like that movie

2770
02:21:46,600 --> 02:21:48,640
Speaker 2: is straight up my life like that, like except the

2771
02:21:48,720 --> 02:21:51,920
Speaker 2: improv ship, which is not that, but like having a

2772
02:21:51,959 --> 02:21:54,280
Speaker 2: group of friends. Wait, I know I play.

2773
02:21:55,879 --> 02:21:58,720
Speaker 3: This is the improv. We are improv.

2774
02:21:59,560 --> 02:22:07,640
Speaker 2: It's true. It's true. Yea uh yeah, yeah yeah, So

2775
02:22:07,800 --> 02:22:11,640
Speaker 2: I I was just I was. It was just interesting

2776
02:22:11,680 --> 02:22:14,360
Speaker 2: to see how universally your own story is and how

2777
02:22:15,440 --> 02:22:18,040
Speaker 2: other people share that ship. And it's nice to know

2778
02:22:18,120 --> 02:22:20,400
Speaker 2: that the journey of life is with other people.

2779
02:22:21,120 --> 02:22:32,560
Speaker 3: True. There you go, paid Steve question. So what would

2780
02:22:32,560 --> 02:22:33,560
Speaker 3: you learn, Steve?

2781
02:22:34,240 --> 02:22:41,080
Speaker 11: I learned that Mike Bigley, his name is not I

2782
02:22:41,440 --> 02:22:44,560
Speaker 11: learned a lot about him. He's an introspective, bright guy

2783
02:22:46,200 --> 02:22:51,280
Speaker 11: that's good grip on things and it's creative. And but

2784
02:22:51,520 --> 02:22:54,840
Speaker 11: like unpaid Bill, I didn't think I was going to

2785
02:22:54,920 --> 02:22:58,200
Speaker 11: be into the movie. I'm not into independent films. I'm

2786
02:22:58,240 --> 02:23:01,120
Speaker 11: not into improv I don't like being told to watch

2787
02:23:01,200 --> 02:23:07,680
Speaker 11: a movie. Sorry, but but again, like these guys that

2788
02:23:07,800 --> 02:23:11,720
Speaker 11: came out of it, sort of thinking, you know, I

2789
02:23:11,800 --> 02:23:15,400
Speaker 11: can relate to Summer all of those characters in the sense,

2790
02:23:15,800 --> 02:23:17,400
Speaker 11: especially in the sense of what I brought up to

2791
02:23:17,440 --> 02:23:20,560
Speaker 11: him that that's sort of duality of rooting for your

2792
02:23:20,600 --> 02:23:24,320
Speaker 11: friends and also sort of having that constant jealousy to

2793
02:23:24,360 --> 02:23:25,400
Speaker 11: beat them to the finish line.

2794
02:23:25,560 --> 02:23:27,680
Speaker 8: There's an Oscar Wild quote about that where it's like,

2795
02:23:27,760 --> 02:23:30,440
Speaker 8: you know, it's something to the effect of you can

2796
02:23:30,720 --> 02:23:34,480
Speaker 8: it's easy. Basically, it's easy to be friends in times

2797
02:23:34,520 --> 02:23:37,600
Speaker 8: of sympathy when your friends need this sympathy, But can

2798
02:23:37,720 --> 02:23:40,040
Speaker 8: you be a friend in their time of success? Like

2799
02:23:40,160 --> 02:23:41,359
Speaker 8: that's what tests friendships.

2800
02:23:41,800 --> 02:23:43,520
Speaker 2: It's not just quote Oscar Wild.

2801
02:23:44,000 --> 02:23:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, fuck you man.

2802
02:23:49,720 --> 02:23:53,840
Speaker 2: Every time we do this ship you you will quote

2803
02:23:54,000 --> 02:23:57,320
Speaker 2: the dumbest television show, the dumbest.

2804
02:23:57,120 --> 02:24:00,000
Speaker 3: Smartest rapper and then like an.

2805
02:24:02,959 --> 02:24:03,200
Speaker 2: Are you.

2806
02:24:04,760 --> 02:24:06,120
Speaker 3: To the top of my hands? Brother?

2807
02:24:07,040 --> 02:24:10,000
Speaker 2: To be alone by yourself, like with the money and

2808
02:24:10,200 --> 02:24:13,000
Speaker 2: just like like novels, like you could be in prison.

2809
02:24:13,520 --> 02:24:16,360
Speaker 2: I know anyway, Sorry, un paid bill, what did you learn? No,

2810
02:24:16,520 --> 02:24:17,880
Speaker 2: that's paid Bill. I'm paid Bill.

2811
02:24:20,160 --> 02:24:20,760
Speaker 3: What did I learn.

2812
02:24:21,320 --> 02:24:23,640
Speaker 9: I mean, I think everybody's pretty much already touched on

2813
02:24:23,680 --> 02:24:27,879
Speaker 9: it so far. You know, just watching the movie, which

2814
02:24:27,920 --> 02:24:30,760
Speaker 9: probably wasn't a movie I would have normally watched, but

2815
02:24:31,640 --> 02:24:33,200
Speaker 9: like by the end of it, I got so wrapped

2816
02:24:33,240 --> 02:24:35,120
Speaker 9: up in it because, like like everybody said, it was

2817
02:24:35,160 --> 02:24:37,600
Speaker 9: like watching my life on screen. Like I'm not I'm

2818
02:24:37,640 --> 02:24:42,000
Speaker 9: not in improv, I'm not you know, into I'm not

2819
02:24:42,080 --> 02:24:44,600
Speaker 9: a musician or anything, but just so much much of

2820
02:24:44,680 --> 02:24:47,200
Speaker 9: it rings true with just seeing being on Facebook every

2821
02:24:47,240 --> 02:24:49,800
Speaker 9: day and seeing what my friends are doing and see

2822
02:24:49,840 --> 02:24:52,120
Speaker 9: where I am in life, and you know, uh, you know,

2823
02:24:52,520 --> 02:24:54,920
Speaker 9: and some people I'm ahead of, some people I'm way behind.

2824
02:24:55,000 --> 02:24:58,440
Speaker 9: So you know, it's it's it's I don't know, it's weird.

2825
02:24:58,560 --> 02:25:00,000
Speaker 9: Getting old, it's it kind of sucked.

2826
02:25:00,600 --> 02:25:02,120
Speaker 3: I don't like it. How old are you?

2827
02:25:02,400 --> 02:25:07,920
Speaker 9: I'm thirty six, I said, I said, getting older. No,

2828
02:25:08,160 --> 02:25:10,520
Speaker 9: I thought you were like forty six. Now I am

2829
02:25:10,640 --> 02:25:14,720
Speaker 9: a year in like a week or something younger than Fonte. Yeah,

2830
02:25:15,440 --> 02:25:16,640
Speaker 9: I'm a year a week younger than you.

2831
02:25:18,560 --> 02:25:19,760
Speaker 3: Look, man, I don't like this.

2832
02:25:21,720 --> 02:25:25,600
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm not saying everybody's journey gotta be

2833
02:25:25,680 --> 02:25:29,240
Speaker 1: my journey. But again, I was kind of ready, you know,

2834
02:25:29,480 --> 02:25:32,640
Speaker 1: thirty eight, thirty nine. I was like, well, this was nice,

2835
02:25:33,200 --> 02:25:33,440
Speaker 1: it was.

2836
02:25:35,080 --> 02:25:35,360
Speaker 3: Cool.

2837
02:25:36,680 --> 02:25:40,080
Speaker 1: But I'm like you and then you know, evidently like

2838
02:25:40,720 --> 02:25:43,200
Speaker 1: a window open. I'm just saying that it can happen late,

2839
02:25:44,000 --> 02:25:45,240
Speaker 1: but a.

2840
02:25:45,280 --> 02:25:45,760
Speaker 3: Lot of tight.

2841
02:25:45,959 --> 02:25:48,400
Speaker 1: I don't think that's That's what I'm proc, dude, that's

2842
02:25:48,760 --> 02:25:51,320
Speaker 1: that's not late. I think that's kind of poor for

2843
02:25:51,440 --> 02:25:54,360
Speaker 1: the chorus. I mean, well, yeah, but just a lot

2844
02:25:54,560 --> 02:25:55,359
Speaker 1: you usually.

2845
02:25:55,120 --> 02:25:59,400
Speaker 3: Post thirty five, we start like, okay, might as well.

2846
02:26:00,520 --> 02:26:03,080
Speaker 9: I think you're just looking at it from the perspective

2847
02:26:03,080 --> 02:26:06,039
Speaker 9: of being in the music industry, and like in any

2848
02:26:06,280 --> 02:26:08,800
Speaker 9: any other field, you know, just.

2849
02:26:08,920 --> 02:26:13,080
Speaker 3: Say, man with like twelve syllables, okay, in.

2850
02:26:13,120 --> 02:26:16,040
Speaker 9: Any other industry, most people don't find success in their twenties.

2851
02:26:16,240 --> 02:26:18,040
Speaker 3: So you know, man, talk about it.

2852
02:26:18,120 --> 02:26:20,400
Speaker 10: I think we we're the generation that was. I always

2853
02:26:20,440 --> 02:26:22,560
Speaker 10: say that Diddy messed it up. I say that Diddy

2854
02:26:22,600 --> 02:26:24,640
Speaker 10: messed it up when he quit college and kept doing

2855
02:26:24,680 --> 02:26:26,560
Speaker 10: those trips to New York and got success early and

2856
02:26:26,600 --> 02:26:28,600
Speaker 10: became millionaires. And everybody looked at Diddy and was like,

2857
02:26:28,680 --> 02:26:31,520
Speaker 10: you know what, it could be done by twenty something,

2858
02:26:31,680 --> 02:26:32,400
Speaker 10: but not for you.

2859
02:26:32,600 --> 02:26:35,240
Speaker 1: Oh I feel you me, I telt you met him

2860
02:26:36,000 --> 02:26:37,920
Speaker 1: having a successful rap career as.

2861
02:26:37,760 --> 02:26:38,879
Speaker 3: A non rapper.

2862
02:26:40,440 --> 02:26:42,440
Speaker 6: That's how Kim Kardashian looked at it. But I'm just

2863
02:26:42,480 --> 02:26:43,520
Speaker 6: saying that, oh, well.

2864
02:26:43,480 --> 02:26:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, diddy' is the beginning of the quarter personality, right, so,

2865
02:26:46,959 --> 02:26:49,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, it starts with them and ends with Kim.

2866
02:26:49,440 --> 02:26:49,600
Speaker 7: Oh.

2867
02:26:49,720 --> 02:26:51,840
Speaker 6: But here's what I learned today that you were asking,

2868
02:26:51,920 --> 02:26:52,480
Speaker 6: mister Loft.

2869
02:26:53,760 --> 02:26:58,920
Speaker 10: Mister, I learned that I'm like, y'all, I'm really in

2870
02:26:59,040 --> 02:27:01,680
Speaker 10: the improv stand up a couple of times and whatnot.

2871
02:27:02,000 --> 02:27:04,120
Speaker 10: And so for Mike, I've realized that, you know what,

2872
02:27:04,280 --> 02:27:08,320
Speaker 10: it's it's possible to live your dreams and it's possible

2873
02:27:08,360 --> 02:27:10,240
Speaker 10: to use all these tools for the greater good. Because

2874
02:27:10,240 --> 02:27:12,000
Speaker 10: I'm hoping at some point did all those classes and

2875
02:27:12,040 --> 02:27:13,360
Speaker 10: I pro groups and stuff lead.

2876
02:27:14,000 --> 02:27:16,039
Speaker 6: So I'm just saying that's what I learned today.

2877
02:27:16,080 --> 02:27:16,960
Speaker 3: It's led you to this.

2878
02:27:17,760 --> 02:27:18,800
Speaker 6: Oh that's right, I made it.

2879
02:27:19,400 --> 02:27:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah you did?

2880
02:27:23,120 --> 02:27:27,000
Speaker 3: What did you learn? Like? Seeing being the l now

2881
02:27:27,040 --> 02:27:28,360
Speaker 3: as the leader of this flock?

2882
02:27:28,520 --> 02:27:30,000
Speaker 1: Now, I feel like I'm gonna let you all down

2883
02:27:30,040 --> 02:27:32,600
Speaker 1: again because the one thing I learned I'm gonna try tonight.

2884
02:27:33,640 --> 02:27:35,800
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna sleeping and sleeping.

2885
02:27:36,000 --> 02:27:39,400
Speaker 2: Yes, you're gonna pot it out.

2886
02:27:39,879 --> 02:27:40,160
Speaker 6: I just.

2887
02:27:42,400 --> 02:27:43,640
Speaker 3: I ain't going with the mints to.

2888
02:27:43,640 --> 02:27:45,760
Speaker 6: Make sure I have the inside zipper though, because you.

2889
02:27:46,360 --> 02:27:49,480
Speaker 3: Well, no, only only because I'm one of those people

2890
02:27:49,640 --> 02:27:55,279
Speaker 3: who's uh air conditioning Like you ever? Are you ever.

2891
02:27:55,240 --> 02:27:57,600
Speaker 1: So cold in the morning or hot in the morning

2892
02:27:58,000 --> 02:28:00,160
Speaker 1: that you're too lazy to get out of bed just

2893
02:28:00,440 --> 02:28:03,439
Speaker 1: change the temperature day you just rather suffer.

2894
02:28:03,240 --> 02:28:05,400
Speaker 3: Through it and just hope that take your clothes off

2895
02:28:06,560 --> 02:28:07,680
Speaker 3: or right, I'm one.

2896
02:28:07,640 --> 02:28:10,760
Speaker 1: Of those lazy can't walk to the air conditioner just

2897
02:28:10,879 --> 02:28:15,240
Speaker 1: to turn it down or whatever. So right now, like

2898
02:28:15,440 --> 02:28:20,080
Speaker 1: my my joint is like on freeze freeze time's pie.

2899
02:28:20,280 --> 02:28:22,280
Speaker 3: Like my room's like forty one degrees.

2900
02:28:22,560 --> 02:28:25,520
Speaker 6: Like tell then we call that strip club weather?

2901
02:28:26,680 --> 02:28:27,320
Speaker 3: Is that we call it?

2902
02:28:27,440 --> 02:28:27,600
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2903
02:28:27,600 --> 02:28:29,360
Speaker 6: Because that's they kept the nipples hard. That's how to

2904
02:28:29,440 --> 02:28:30,160
Speaker 6: keep the nipples hard.

2905
02:28:30,440 --> 02:28:37,199
Speaker 5: And I also want to say, electric ladies the bomb.

2906
02:28:37,840 --> 02:28:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we got couches and we sitting.

2907
02:28:41,879 --> 02:28:48,560
Speaker 5: This is better than that, Yes, Persia, Yes, it's it's.

2908
02:28:49,879 --> 02:28:53,600
Speaker 1: It's it's important, quite awesome to to come back home

2909
02:28:53,800 --> 02:28:58,879
Speaker 1: to uh electrical lady and uh until next time, ladies

2910
02:28:58,920 --> 02:28:59,720
Speaker 1: and gentlemen.

2911
02:29:00,240 --> 02:29:08,000
Speaker 3: On behalf of boss bill and and unpaid Bill and Lie.

2912
02:29:10,680 --> 02:29:13,680
Speaker 3: All right, let you Beck and fin take. My name

2913
02:29:13,760 --> 02:29:28,160
Speaker 3: is quest Love and this is question only Onda quest

2914
02:29:28,240 --> 02:29:28,840
Speaker 3: Love Supreme.

2915
02:29:28,879 --> 02:29:32,160
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2916
02:29:32,280 --> 02:29:41,039
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02:29:41,080 --> 02:29:44,600
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