1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: What's Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. Suprema Supremo 2 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Role Canthum s. 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: Upremo Supremo role called Supremo Sun Sun Supremo role called Supremo. 4 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Suck Suck Supremo role. 5 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 3: There's new delaying. Yeah hear what I'm saying. Yeah, Abrams 6 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 3: in twenty eight. Yeah, and I'm not playing roll president. 7 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 2: Primo Supremo role called Supremo Supremo role call. 8 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: My name is Fante. 9 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm showing love yeah to Stacey Abrams. Yeah, 10 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 4: first black woman go ro call Supreme su su subrivo, 11 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 4: roll down Supremo Supremo. 12 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: Role car Supreme. Yeah, and we're the freshest. Yeah, I'm 13 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: Sugar Steve. Yeah and I approved this message. 14 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: Suprema so Supremo roll call Supremo Supremo role called. 15 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 5: It's like yeah with Stacey a Yeah, and we're all 16 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 5: about to listen. Yeah, so what she got to say? 17 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 4: Roll call Supremo Supremo, roll call Supremo Supremo role call. 18 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 6: My name is Stacey. 19 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 20 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 7: I tried to win. Yeah, it didn't happen the first time. Yeah, 21 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 7: so I'm doing it again. 22 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: Supremo roll called Suprema, I need an airhorn. Primo roll call, Supremo, Supremo. 23 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: Roll call, Supremo, Supremo, roll call. 24 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 4: Yo, you made a better guest verse than some musicians 25 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 4: will thank you very much. 26 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: That was Yeah, that was That was definitely top five 27 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: in the six year history. Everyone's like, oh, I don't know. Oh, yes, 28 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: I am Michael Jackson. Okay, so, ladies and gentlemen, we 29 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: are being given the honor of having a sit down 30 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 3: with the human being that I credit for literally holding 31 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: our democracy in place. You know, I'm trying not to 32 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: be a hyperbolic or that extra pressure, but you know, 33 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: I'm speaking facts right now, and much like my beloved 34 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: state of Pennsylvania, Georgia is going to be a fight 35 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: to the finish, and you know, for the two percent 36 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: of you that have your head in the sand, November 37 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: eighth is a crucial date for not only Georgia, but. 38 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: For this country and for history. 39 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 3: I feel like it's our due diligence to offer our platform. 40 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: And yes, like normally this is a platform for musicians 41 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: and artists like or whatever, but I think it's our 42 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 3: due diligence to give our guests today the platform because 43 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 3: I often feel like people who listen to us often 44 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: like people who are creatives, they're sometimes, you know, very indifferent, 45 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: or I hear like, well, you know, I'm beginning the 46 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: political stuff or whatever, or they just simply feel like 47 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: maybe the trickle down effect won't affect them that much 48 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: than it already has. And I can't stress to you 49 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: find folk enough that, Yeah, I know there's fatigue, and 50 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: you know, but we have to fight this good fight. 51 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: And I'd rather us be fatigue than to be lying 52 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 3: on our backs and then wondering what happened months after 53 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: the fact. And I believe in our guest today because 54 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: she is about that action. And you know, it's like 55 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: the wild West out here, and it's time to get serious. 56 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: And I want, yeah, I want you people to take 57 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: time out to really get yourselves familiar if you aren't 58 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: already with the person. Yes, and I said in my verse, 59 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: I do believe that, you know. First of all, I 60 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: believe in her affirmation that yeah, she is going to win. 61 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 5: But you know, I believe that President. 62 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm talking to the future president right now not to 63 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: put a pressure on. 64 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 5: You, but that fix Georgia. 65 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 6: First, let's work on this job. 66 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, one, one step at the time. 67 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: So you know, our guest today running for governor and 68 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 3: I just found out will successfully be the first African 69 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: American governor ever. We're still dealing with first female yeah yes, 70 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: first female black governor in the United States, and future potus. 71 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: Let's have it. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Stacy Abrams. 72 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 6: Thank you so much for having me, Am. 73 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 5: We made it. 74 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's weird because you know, I know 75 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: that you know, living a life in which you're trying 76 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: to correct history and right wrongs and whatnot. And you know, 77 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 3: I often feel as though like introductions like that do 78 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: nothing but add more pressure to the person than it 79 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 3: already is. But just in general, I want to know 80 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 3: for you, not how exhausting is it, but just on 81 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: the every day of knowing that pretty much most of 82 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: us are looking at you specifically to you know, at 83 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 3: least hold this country in place as the adhesive that 84 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,559 Speaker 3: we want it to be, because if it doesn't happen, 85 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: then a lot is going to change. But I mean, 86 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: just for you in general, like I'll offer you the 87 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: platform to answer this question, like why do you feel 88 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: that you're qualified to be the person to. 89 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: Save us. 90 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 7: There is an urgency that I feel every day, in 91 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 7: part because of what I know about what the world 92 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 7: can be and what I know about what it is. 93 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 7: I grew up with five brothers and sisters. My parents 94 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 7: were working poor, but they took us out to volunteer 95 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 7: because my dad's succinct way of saying it was having 96 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 7: nothing is not an excuse for doing nothing. But what 97 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 7: that grounded in me and what my mother, who would say, 98 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 7: you know, no matter how little we have, there's someone 99 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 7: with less. Your job is to serve that person, is 100 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 7: that It's not just about material. It is about it's 101 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 7: about advocacy, it's about efficacy, it's about access. And when 102 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 7: you've seen people who should have had but were denied, 103 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 7: if there is any degree of empathy in you, you 104 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 7: feel compelled to do something well. 105 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: For me. 106 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 7: It's a systemic issue. I grew up in Mississippi. I 107 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 7: came of age in Georgia. I've lived in Texas. I 108 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 7: went to the North but it was cold, so I 109 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 7: came back. But we're in the North, so I was 110 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 7: born in Wisconsin. I barely remember that. Oh yeah, I 111 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 7: remember cheese curds and cold. And then I went to 112 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 7: law school in Connecticut, so I went to Yale, and 113 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 7: in both places, their challenge is everywhere. But in the 114 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 7: South we've been gaslighted into believing these are permanent issues, 115 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 7: and I know it's not. So I know that the 116 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 7: South not only has something to say, but we can 117 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 7: demonstrate a capacity that we have been fooled into believing 118 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 7: isn't our right. And as someone who's gotten people to 119 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 7: listen sometimes, I'm really good at asking people to do things. 120 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 7: I'm pretty good at organizing stuff. My responsibility is to 121 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 7: keep pushing until I can't push any further. And so yeah, 122 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 7: I appreciate the plout. It's I see myself more as 123 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 7: an avatar for all the other people who are trying 124 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 7: to do this work but don't get the access I've gotten. 125 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 7: I'm louder than a lot of people, and I'm more 126 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 7: relentless than many because I don't know how not to 127 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 7: do this. I don't know how you sit still when 128 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 7: you see the issues before us. And I know that 129 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 7: democracy is how I mean you use the right word. 130 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 7: It's the adhesive, but it's also the toolkit. And so 131 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 7: for me, this heart has to be done. And if 132 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 7: not me, then you know. 133 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 3: Who Okay, so I'm one of those people who's definitely 134 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: guilty of you know, I'll watch MSNBC or something, shake 135 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: my head like somebody I do something like if anything. 136 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 3: I think in the last three years, I was the 137 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: king of Man. I was somebody with da da da 138 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: da da, and then I find that I'm the person 139 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: that's called to do that. 140 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: For you, what was the pivotal moment, like back when 141 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: you were at Yale and I'm uman right before that? Yeah, right, okay, Well. 142 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 3: I mean back when you were in college where what 143 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: were your lofty goals in life? 144 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: Like are you imagining. 145 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 3: That some fifteen sixteen years later that you'll be in 146 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 3: the position that you are now or were you just like, Okay, 147 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be a lawyer or da. 148 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 7: Da da da, or I had like twenty seven majors 149 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 7: in college. I was physics and philosophy, with a minor 150 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 7: in theater. Oh finds out. I liked star Trek, but 151 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 7: not differential calculus. And when you can't stay awaken in pistemology, 152 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 7: it's probably not the thing to do when there are 153 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 7: only four people in the classroom. I like acting, but 154 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 7: not enough to make it my life's work, and so 155 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 7: I flitted through a bunch of other things, but what 156 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 7: was the through line for me was activism. The pivotal 157 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 7: moment for me when I realized that it wasn't just 158 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 7: an inherited property from my parents, it was part of 159 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 7: my DNA. When the Rodney King decision came down in 160 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 7: nineteen ninety two, I was a freshman at Spelman. I 161 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 7: organized students to protest. They locked down our campus. I 162 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 7: was at the AUC and if you if you know Atlanta, 163 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 7: they locked down I twenty so you could not get 164 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 7: off of the interstate and come to to the University center. 165 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 7: So Spellman, Moorhouse, Clark Atlanta, Morris Brown ITC and More 166 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 7: School of Medicine. And then they tear gassed us. They 167 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 7: tear gas the entire area. And this was under a 168 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 7: black mayor, and. 169 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 5: This is Spelman, and that's even deeper, like wow. 170 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 7: But the schools were juxtaposed next to some of the 171 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 7: oldest housing developments in the nation. And so the issue 172 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 7: was we weren't, you know, elite students and poor communities. 173 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 7: We were all black, and we were all basically accused 174 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 7: of the same anger. And the problem was the protests 175 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 7: were real because the pain was real, and so I 176 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 7: helped organize students. Actually got into an argument with then 177 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 7: Mayor Maynard Jackson. He won the argument, but because you 178 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 7: couldn't argue and I was like, my cleanest tea shirts 179 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 7: are my nicest jeans. 180 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 6: But he still won. 181 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 7: But he later hired me to work in the newly 182 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 7: created Office of Youth Services. 183 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: Okay, let me ask something, because you know, I did 184 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 3: not go to college, like immediately got a record deal 185 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 3: and had a career. Always wanted to know when we 186 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: protest on a college campus, like what's the goal? Especially 187 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 3: when like the issue is three thousand miles away in 188 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: Los Angeles, Like how does that trickle to? 189 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 6: So two things. 190 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 7: One, what Rodney King's with a Verdict was evocative of 191 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 7: was the lack of justice from police. And that was 192 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 7: happening in Atlanta, that was happening in Georgia. And part 193 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 7: of it was where poverty exists, where racism exists, you 194 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 7: were going to find police misconduct. And there was also 195 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 7: the larger issue of simply the evidence of our eyes 196 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 7: being denied. Those things well, Rodney King was emblematic of 197 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 7: it was but he was only one example. He was 198 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 7: the first example that got caught on tape. But people 199 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 7: have those experiences everywhere, and that's why it was so inflammatory. 200 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 7: The protests I organized. We started this moment we watched 201 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 7: we marched from the AUC all the way to City Hall. 202 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 7: So to your point, I didn't go to a college 203 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 7: where protesting at the college made a license because we 204 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 7: all pretty much agreed the most effective protests leave the 205 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 7: safe spaces and go into the public spaces. So we 206 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 7: made sure that march went past the housing projects, went 207 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 7: past the liquor stores, all the way down to city Hall. 208 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 7: That's how I ended up getting into the Teta tet 209 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 7: with the mayor. But to your point, there are some 210 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 7: campuses where protest on campus is it's effective because if 211 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 7: you're at Harvard, you're talking about billions of dollars in 212 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 7: economic influence. If you're an AEC, the numeric, the monetary 213 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 7: and effect is the smaller, but the salutary effect is 214 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 7: bigger because you have people who may have been conditioned 215 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 7: to think that they were the exceptions to the rule, 216 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 7: who have to remind themselves that they are part of 217 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 7: the same fabric that people don't ask you, they don't 218 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 7: investigate did you go to Spelman, Why are you in 219 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 7: the auc Why are you in southwest Atlanta? They just 220 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 7: see someone who looks like something they've been taught to 221 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 7: be afraid of or taught to disregard. And this is 222 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 7: true for a lot of different communities of color. It's 223 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 7: true based on your economic situation and where protests comes in. 224 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 7: As protest moves beyond the space that you inhabit, and 225 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 7: it tells the rest of the world you've got to 226 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 7: pay attention. 227 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: It's a bullhorn exactly. 228 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: So do you consider that moment your first footprint in 229 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 3: political action? 230 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 7: It was my parents will tell you, because my mom 231 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 7: and dad were in grad school here in uh in Georgia. 232 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 7: They had moved back to Mississippi at and I gave 233 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 7: out my phone number to tell people, you know, during 234 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 7: the protest. 235 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 6: I'm like, if you're if you want to join us. 236 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 6: I didn't think through the. 237 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 7: Fact that I was giving my parents home number out, know, 238 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 7: and and they pointed that out to me later on 239 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 7: as the phone started to ring. But for me, it 240 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 7: was it was it was both in a moment of 241 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 7: empowerment but a moment of ownership that I wanted to 242 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 7: be a voice for people who didn't know they deserve 243 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 7: to be in that march. They didn't know that they 244 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 7: deserved to have better And who'd been lulled into thinking 245 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 7: that because you had leadership that looked like you, that 246 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 7: they shared all of the same issues that you shared. 247 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 7: And that's just never true. That that notion of monolithic 248 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 7: power is just not real. And so even within spaces, 249 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 7: I mean, Mayor Jax is extraordinary mayor, but in this issue, 250 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 7: when it came to youth poverty, he had not done 251 00:13:58,720 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 7: what I thought needed to be done. 252 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 6: So my job was to push that. 253 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 7: And so for me it was it was a moment 254 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 7: of reckoning, Like did I actually believe the things I 255 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 7: was saying when I was safely on campus? 256 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 6: And turns out yes I. 257 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 3: Did so at the time, were you like student body 258 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: president or like I don't know what the president's system 259 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: is for college? 260 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: Not like I used to be president in my ninth 261 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: grade class, but I mean, like for you, So I wasn't. 262 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 6: Then I eventually did. 263 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 7: I was at that point, I was just an annoying 264 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 7: freshman in college who was and you were a freshman 265 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 7: I was my freshman. 266 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 3: Year, So how did you, like, isn't it hard for 267 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: a freshman to get the respect in the I was 268 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 3: relentless and were people like afraid of being suspended or 269 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: kicked off campus or yes. 270 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 7: So one thing that happened part of I kind of 271 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 7: short short headed the story. But it was a few 272 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 7: phases when they were tear gassing the campus. This is 273 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 7: before social media, this is before cell phones, and this 274 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 7: is when you only had the television stations, the broadcast stations. 275 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 7: So I organized students in my dorm to call all 276 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 7: the broadcast stations. They were lying saying that we were 277 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 7: running amok. I'm like, no, we are angry in protest 278 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 7: both on the campus and out in the community, but 279 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 7: this isn't a riot, and they were miscommunicating what was happening. 280 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 7: So I had a bunch of friends call all the 281 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 7: stations and flood the stations. And the stations got wise 282 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 7: to us and said, well, who's calling, and so I said, 283 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 7: just tell them you're me. So you had like seventy 284 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 7: five Stacy Abrams is calling and that that amplified my voice. Again, 285 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 7: didn't think through the consequences when they sent the police 286 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 7: to come and get me to take me to this event. 287 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 7: I wasn't being arrested. But I was invited to the 288 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 7: simulcast because all of the television stations in Atlanta came 289 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 7: together because this was a crisis, and so the mayor 290 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 7: was there and I was invited as one of the 291 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 7: students to be there, and so that sort of that 292 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 7: lifted my platform a bit more than I expected. 293 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 5: I ask, I'm so curious, just on as a student 294 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 5: as we're in this Spellman moment, I'm curious, did you 295 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 5: what was your full experience was in college? Was it 296 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 5: all work and no play and activism or but at 297 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 5: a pivotal time in Atlanta period like alymp post Olympics maybe, 298 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 5: so I was right before the Olympics, right before okay, 299 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 5: right before the Olympics. So can you talk about like 300 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 5: what kind of student you were in that way, like did. 301 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: You have fun social life? 302 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 6: Because I was a nerd and I'm an introvert. So 303 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 6: I heard this. 304 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 5: That's why I was surprised. Firstman year you went all 305 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 5: out and started. 306 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: Well, I was that was happy supreme right, A bunch 307 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: of nerds and introvis. You mentioned Star Trek, So that 308 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: was the. 309 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 6: Well next generation was out? 310 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 7: So yes, your peak card girl, the card Jane Waite 311 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 7: like I do the whole universe see turn. 312 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 5: Out card is everything? 313 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: Like lu Luke who is Jean luc Every day I 314 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 3: find the this person I've known for thirty plus years 315 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: good even though she's still nineteen. 316 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: Good. 317 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 7: So I this is probably the best example. When I 318 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 7: became student body president, part of your job is to 319 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 7: make sure that they are social activities. I got two 320 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 7: of my best friends. I created a position called the 321 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 7: Social Activity Coordinator, so I wouldn't have. 322 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 6: To go to parties. 323 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 5: So you wouldn't have to go. 324 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, So I would set up the parties. 325 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 7: They would I would come at the beginning to say hi, 326 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 7: and I would come at the end to make sure 327 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 7: nobody stole anything. 328 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 6: Otherwise I was back in my dorms. 329 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:08,959 Speaker 5: You would not go to Everybody was trying to get 330 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 5: to go out, and you were like, I have meaningful 331 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 5: things to do. 332 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 7: I never went on spring break. What well, why would 333 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 7: you pay money to go sit in somebody else's hotel. 334 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 7: I mean, like I was, I had a dorm, I 335 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 7: could read anywhere, like. 336 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: Okay, so you said something, and I think you know. 337 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: I try to pull as much personal inspiration information from 338 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 3: our guests that come on this show, but I'll ask 339 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 3: you yes, sir, because I feel like the one small 340 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: task that I'm holding myself back from actually crossing the 341 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 3: line to where you are, despite the fact that I'm 342 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 3: hosting my own podcast and. 343 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: Do other things. 344 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 3: How do you get over the fear of speaking, because 345 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 3: I've seen you speak before it, you know, for an introvert, 346 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 3: you project well, I guess it's the acting help. 347 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 7: But so, yeah, I grew up in the church, so 348 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 7: we had to do you know, Easter programs, manicipation, proclamature programs. 349 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 7: Never liked any of it. I'm afraid of you had 350 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 7: to read all of the stuff right right, you name it, 351 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 7: we did it. My fear isn't public speaking. I'm reticent 352 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 7: about being around lots of people. So when I was 353 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 7: in high school, I joined the debate team. I had 354 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 7: a psychosomatic case of laryngitis because it occurred to me 355 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 7: that I couldn't be I wouldn't be debating by myself, 356 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 7: that other people would see me do it. And suddenly 357 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 7: my voice didn't work. And went to see the nurse 358 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 7: and she's like, there's nothing wrong with you. Yeah, And 359 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 7: that's when I also learned what psychosomatic because what psychomedia 360 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 7: look like. 361 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: Artist often do that. 362 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 3: And that's often an issue on the show, like when 363 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 3: people self sabotage their progress or whatever. 364 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 7: Well, I had to get over it because I was 365 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 7: going to fail the class if I didn't. Actually, you 366 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 7: have to speak. But the way I get past it 367 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 7: is that it's not about me. It's about what they 368 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 7: need to hear. It's about what people need to know. 369 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 7: I can get past the You can't sublimate it, but 370 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 7: you can work around it. 371 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 6: And I think you do that. 372 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 7: You do that, you find yourself in public spaces speaking, 373 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 7: You give yourself a script, you give yourself an objective. 374 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 7: And for me, the objective is changed. It's getting people 375 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 7: the things they need. And if my discomfort gets them 376 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 7: to what they need, then I'm willing to do it. 377 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 7: It is never fun, I have never I don't enjoy it, 378 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 7: but I'm good at it. And the consequences of inaction 379 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 7: to me are worse than the consequences of action. And 380 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 7: so for me, the cost benefit analysis is, you know, Stacy, 381 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 7: stop having a laryngitis and go ahead and do your job. 382 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: Okay, speaking of inaction, and let's cut to the chase here, 383 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 3: November eighth is coming up. Yes, and you know, I know, 384 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 3: specifically my specific demographic, which is black men means. 385 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: Ye and yeah nineteen. 386 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 3: First of all, I'm very shocked at the statistics that 387 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 3: we I mean, I'm I'm shocked, and I'm not shocked 388 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: because I know that we're the first to complain about 389 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 3: something and really the last, you know, to really want 390 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 3: to do the groundwork, if you will. So you know, 391 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 3: I'm finding out that black men vote the least or 392 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 3: probably feel the least represented, or you know, and I know, 393 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 3: I got many uncles and cousins and friends. Ain't nothing 394 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 3: going to happen and they ain't run for us, or 395 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 3: they the FEDS or they the ops or whatever. So 396 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 3: for you what you're facing in Georgia, and that will 397 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 3: subsequently affect because you know, if KIMP does remain in power, 398 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: then I know that laws are going to be implemented. 399 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 3: I'm already pissed about this whole, Like we can't give 400 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: water to people or aid to people. 401 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: So just in general, like use this platform to explain 402 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: to us what is at stake? 403 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 7: So you said, how does that happen and what's at stake? 404 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 7: We have a governor who ran his first campaign on 405 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 7: rounding people up and pointing weapons at people and saying 406 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 7: that he was a politically incorrect conservative, he was a 407 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 7: trump conservative. And then people because he didn't commit treason 408 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 7: once in twenty twenty, he didn't commit treason by he 409 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 7: did what every other governor in American history has done, 410 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 7: and he certified the election. He's been given praise and lionized. See, 411 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 7: and that's part of the challenge. The memory is short 412 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 7: and we are and so he gets credit. Now what 413 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 7: people are aren't paying attention to. And this goes to 414 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 7: the issue with so black men have Let's be clear, 415 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 7: they vote, but it's the vote share. So vote share 416 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 7: is the proportion you have in the population versus the 417 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 7: proportion you have in turnout. Black women have the highest 418 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 7: vote share. We vote our numbers. The next group is 419 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,479 Speaker 7: white women, the group after that is white men, then 420 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 7: black men. So the issue is not that black men 421 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 7: don't vote, it's that their power in their vote is 422 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 7: under so they fight below their weight class. And so 423 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 7: the goal that I have is not to say that 424 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 7: black men, no one and no one should suggest that 425 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 7: black men don't vote. It's that they don't they fight 426 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 7: below their weight class, and if black men fought their 427 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 7: full power, it changes things. But there are legitimate reasons 428 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 7: it doesn't happen, especially in Georgia. Georgia had at one 429 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 7: point the fourth highest incarceration rate in the nation, and 430 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 7: it was predominantly black men. And Georgia, like Florida, nearly 431 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 7: permanently franchises black men, and those who aren't permanently disenfranchised 432 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 7: are flooded with so much misinformation they don't know they. 433 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 6: Have the right to vote. 434 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 7: Then you have communities that when you have generational poverty, 435 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 7: generational stereotypes, and generational disa investment, no government doesn't work. 436 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 7: You've seen people who look like you get elected and 437 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 7: do nothing. But the reason that often is true is 438 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 7: that we tend to elect in Georgia and in the South, 439 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 7: we elect black people at the local level. And we 440 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 7: know we finally started to make some progress at the 441 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 7: federal level, but state government is the intervener that stops 442 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 7: many good things from happening. Governors matter, especially now. Right 443 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 7: standred Ground was signed by a governor. That's why Trayvon's 444 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 7: murder went unavenged. The treatment of black women as parasites 445 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 7: through the social safety net that happened under a governor 446 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 7: in Wisconsin. Mass incarceration did not start with the ninety 447 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 7: four crime billets started with three Strikes Are Out, which 448 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 7: was signed by Governor Pete Wilson. In California, Jim Crow 449 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 7: never had a single federal law. It was all state 450 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 7: governors in nine southern states. And so we legitimately, especially 451 00:23:54,320 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 7: black men, legitimately protest the lack of delivery. But we 452 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 7: don't understand that the delivery system is the state, not 453 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 7: the local government. In the state of Georgia, the governor 454 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 7: decides how much money get spent. The governor sets the budget, 455 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 7: the governor signs the laws. In the city of Atlanta, 456 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 7: in two thousand and three, I helped write the first 457 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 7: living wage law for the state of Georgia. The Mayor 458 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 7: of Atlanta as signed that law. By the following January, 459 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,239 Speaker 7: that law was illegal in the entire state. They made 460 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 7: it illegal for a local government to pass a law 461 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 7: for living wages. On call scheduling hurts a lot of 462 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 7: black men who want to be a part of their family. 463 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 7: Hurts a lot of people. But you're on on call scheduling, 464 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 7: you want to be able to plan your day. 465 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll say, what is that. 466 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 7: The Secretary of State, the person currently a Secretary of 467 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 7: State as a state legislator, passed the law that says 468 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 7: that no one can, no local government can require that 469 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 7: on call scheduling actually respect the humanity of a person working. 470 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 7: The governor Brian Kemp, in the midst of COVID, passed 471 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 7: the law saying that you couldn't sue your employer for 472 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 7: not protecting you from COVID. Didn't do a thing to 473 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 7: demand that you could access to PPE, but he did 474 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 7: make it impossible for you to file a lawsuit against 475 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 7: the when he reopened the state, when they forced you 476 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 7: back to work, they could make you come to work, 477 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 7: but it didn't have to protect you when you got there. 478 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 6: That's this governor. 479 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 5: So that's why I'm confused in states, because. 480 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 7: Most people don't understand they all they know is that, 481 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 7: well he reopened the state. Yeah, thirty eight thousand people 482 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 7: are dead. 483 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 484 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 5: I was literally having this conversation with because I was like, 485 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 5: I want to have a conversation with some young folks 486 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 5: that actually live here. And I was talking to two 487 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 5: young folks behind the camera and we were talking about 488 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 5: Georgia is a little is different in the sense, and 489 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 5: they're from Chicago and Detroit respectively, and now their residents. 490 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 5: But speaking to a I spoke to Rego Wade yesterday 491 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 5: and I said, I don't understand why the polls say 492 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 5: that things are closed. When y'all was here, y'all saw 493 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 5: not even I mean COVID that's nice, but we saw 494 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 5: with the injustice that happened to Stacey in twenty eighteen. 495 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 5: And he said to me, he said, yeah, but politicians 496 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 5: always cheat, And I was like, well, yeah, but that 497 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 5: was the whole world watched it, and it was just 498 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 5: a matter of fact, like Georgia kind of. I felt like, Okay, 499 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 5: you know what this is. This is some Georgia excuse 500 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 5: my language, shit in a way, some South shit where 501 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 5: things go a little differently in the Northeast. 502 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: You mean in terms of moving the goal post. 503 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, like it couldn't be so blatant. And we would 504 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 5: never have let a man like that only be governor 505 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 5: again and re Going again think he has a chance again. 506 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 7: The law he passed that is voter suppression two point zero. 507 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 7: This law not only says you can't have water or food, 508 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 7: he's outsourced voter voter purging. Sixty four thousand people have 509 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 7: had their voter registrations challenged because he and Brad Rasenberger 510 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 7: put in place a law that says that you can 511 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 7: any person can walk into a county board of Elections 512 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 7: and say I don't think that Amir has the right 513 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 7: to vote, and you have to prove that you have 514 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 7: the right to vote. They don't have to have any evidence. 515 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 7: And it used to be that if it looks fishy, 516 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 7: the board of elections can say this is this is crazy, 517 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 7: We're not going to do. They now have to process 518 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 7: every single challenge and in Gwinnett County alone, thirty seven 519 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 7: thousand voter registrations were challenge heard. 520 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 5: About Gwennett County, I heard it's a problem, right. 521 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 7: It's no, But this has happened across the state. But 522 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 7: this is the same state where because of Brian Kemp's 523 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 7: law s B two two four, different boards of elections, 524 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 7: the people who control where the polling is, if you 525 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 7: get your if your name's there, they kicked all of 526 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 7: the black people off of the board and it is 527 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 7: legal in Georgia for them to do so. Brian Kemp 528 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 7: did that. But the reality is, and this goes just 529 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 7: to the larger issue, not only black men, but of 530 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 7: the urgency of this election. If this is what they're 531 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 7: willing to do. Now, imagine when he is a lame 532 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 7: duck governor who can't run for office again, when he 533 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 7: has six he has nothing to lose. He's got his 534 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 7: way billion dollars. 535 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 5: He already took our bodies away from us and the 536 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 5: right to. 537 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 7: He's got six billion dollars at his disposal. We have 538 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 7: a surplus once you pay every bill. We've got six 539 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 7: billion dollars sitting there. He has told us his intention 540 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 7: is to give this money to the wealthy. And so 541 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 7: part of the goal of today, and I appreciate this conversation, 542 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 7: is that most people are so legitimately consumed with their 543 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 7: lives and with their fears and with their realities that 544 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 7: politics feels like an extra burden. I like to say politics. 545 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 7: You may not be into politics, but politics is into you. 546 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 7: And it is a stalker. And we have to understand 547 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 7: that stalking usually turns into something grave and terrible that 548 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 7: you will one day see on lifetime movies. 549 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 6: And so we've got to push back. 550 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 7: In my job, my interest, my intensity is because I 551 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 7: know what the consequences are if we don't do it, 552 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 7: But I also know what the possibilities are if we do. 553 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 7: We can invest in people, We can restore bodily autonomy. 554 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 7: We can make certain that black men and black people large, 555 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 7: but black men in particular get re enfranchised and actually 556 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 7: have an active role to play in their futures instead 557 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 7: of a governor who thinks that restoring mass incarceration is 558 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 7: an okay thing to do for. 559 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: Cats like me on the sideline that we want to 560 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: do something. Now, last year, you know, I raised money, 561 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 3: went out on the streets, I mean even hand it out, 562 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 3: what like I would go to polling places and all 563 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: those things. 564 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 5: What can we do and not celebrity civilians because we 565 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 5: all want to. 566 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 3: We I just meant, like flesh and blood people, Okay, 567 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 3: what can we do to help alleviate the situation that 568 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 3: I know is going to be problematic? 569 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 6: So number one, feel free to give me money. 570 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: But here's why No, but here's why take all my money. 571 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 7: I'm running the So our campaign has the single largest 572 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 7: voter engagement apparatus in the state. That means going into 573 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 7: the places that most people don't go to get to 574 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 7: the voters most people ignore that's what that's what we do. 575 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 7: But it takes money because I actually pay every canvasser 576 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 7: twenty dollars an hour. We don't we pay a living 577 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 7: wage to our canvass. 578 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 5: Yes, I was still ne for free in a college town. 579 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 7: But when you to go to a small place, when 580 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 7: you've got to go to Colquit County, or go up 581 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 7: to Dade County, or you're in Clayton County and you've 582 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 7: got to knock on all these doors in these apartment buildings, 583 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 7: this is a job and people need to take it. 584 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 7: So we need volunteers. But before we get volunteers, I 585 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 7: need people who I know can show up to work 586 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 7: every single day, so your investment is in that work. 587 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 6: Number two. 588 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 7: I need volunteers, I need folks to reach out to 589 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 7: their communities, but I also need people to talk about 590 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 7: this on social media. The other side is spending a 591 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,479 Speaker 7: lot of time pretending this doesn't matter. Every negative narrative 592 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 7: you here, they amplify it. They will tell a lie 593 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 7: a thousand times until it sounds like the truth. We 594 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 7: tell the truth one time and we shut up with 595 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 7: no one says amen. I need us to talk about 596 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 7: what is at stake. And who is, who these people are, 597 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 7: who my opponent is, and who I am. And we 598 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 7: may not agree on everything, but if you look at 599 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 7: the totality of my work, I show my work. And 600 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 7: so think about if you've got a guess who's going 601 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 7: to do a better job, the guy who's told you 602 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 7: he doesn't care about you, or the woman who's shown care. 603 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 7: But I need folks to be talking about this. In 604 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 7: eighteen there was a national conversation. This time it's been 605 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 7: a bit more muted because we've been dealing with so 606 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 7: many things. 607 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Yeah, how do you think the pandemic? 608 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 6: How you think that is a shit pandemic? 609 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 7: COVID inflation, racial violence. People are tired and you you 610 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 7: laid it out very well, Ameir. People are exhausted. But 611 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 7: pain doesn't care about your exhaustion. Politics doesn't care about 612 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 7: your exhaustion. Our responsibility is to show up anyway, because 613 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 7: the consequences are going to visit us whether we invite 614 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 7: them or not. 615 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 5: Okay, so let me ask you this as your sister, 616 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 5: and it's funny. I do another podcast with two sisters, 617 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 5: Jill Scotten in Asia from Kinju the Family Soul, and 618 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 5: were always talking about self care. I need to know, 619 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 5: Stacy Abrams, what is your self care ritual? Do you 620 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 5: do have something daily? What do you do for self 621 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 5: so that you can go out and give all this 622 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 5: energy to all these people because it costs. 623 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 6: I watch an inordinate amount of television and I read books. 624 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 5: Rest. 625 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 7: When I say I watch a lot of TV, it 626 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 7: is a bit absurd. Right now, I'm watching Eureka because 627 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 7: I didn't watch Eureka when it came out before. I 628 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 7: love it, so I'm on season five and very sad. 629 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 7: I've heard it's really good. I'm waiting for The Equalizer 630 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 7: to come back because I love Queen Latifah. I watch 631 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 7: all of the fbis. I think they're twenty seven of 632 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 7: them now, yeah. 633 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 5: I watch you on Law Order. 634 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 6: You got to decide, Well, well, no, I'm Onlaw Order. 635 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 5: Yeah the new season? 636 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 7: Well yes, so I know they did all three of 637 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 7: them on the twenty second, but I haven't haven't had 638 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 7: a chance to watch it. 639 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 5: But yes, do you watch the first Lawn Order? 640 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: Because I watched Hey, I was a dead body on that. 641 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 5: No you was on SBS. Yeah, yeah, yeah, SPU is 642 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 5: the tight. 643 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 7: I watch all of the Lawn I've watched Law and 644 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 7: Order UK. When I say I watched TV, I am 645 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 7: K there's a Law and Order UK. 646 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: Yes, And is this thing have an accent? 647 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? 648 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 3: You know what, I'm putting it out there. You organized 649 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 3: an outcast union, they will come. 650 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 6: Well, I think I'm talking to the person who can 651 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 6: make it happen. 652 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 5: He's talking to you. 653 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 3: I'm talking to uh, you know what someone should get out. 654 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 3: Oh boy actually lives five minutes away from me. 655 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 6: I'm just saying that, don't have boy in his name. 656 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, the one that does boring. He goes fishing in 657 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: Long Island like four days a week. So yeah, I'll 658 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: call him. 659 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 5: But what are you listening to? Stacy? 660 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 7: I'm curious, my my, So, I have a sixteen year 661 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 7: old niece who now lives with me. Okay, no, so 662 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 7: I don't want to tell you what I listened to 663 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 7: because everything I say out loud she cringes at So. Yeah, 664 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 7: most of our musical tastes are frozen from when we 665 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 7: were basically between the ages of ten and twenty five. 666 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 7: I have expanded my universe since then, but when it 667 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 7: comes back to just the core narrative. But I'm curious, 668 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 7: who do I listen to right now, I just had 669 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 7: to do some I just did a photo shoot, which 670 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 7: that sounds so bougie. But anyway, so they play music 671 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 7: because well it's awkward to do this stuff, and so 672 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 7: they play music to relax you. 673 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 6: So it was tribe called Quest. It was Whitney. 674 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 7: There was a new addition, of course. I also love 675 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:27,439 Speaker 7: Van halen Stone Temple pilots. There was some Fiona Apple. Yes, 676 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 7: I listened to a broad range. There was and I'm 677 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 7: not just pandering. There were some roots. 678 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 5: So when's the last time you had to go to 679 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 5: a show? Like, was the last time you had time. 680 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: To go to a show? 681 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 7: Well, last night I was at Alicia Keys concert for 682 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 7: fourteen seconds so she could say. 683 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 5: Hi and listen to thank you? 684 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 1: That that was it? 685 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah. 686 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 6: So once two step any by Missy Elliott. You just 687 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 6: get me high. 688 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 7: And I have a deep, end abiding commitment to all 689 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 7: of the fun songs done by Ludacris. 690 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm a person. Yeah, I got he. 691 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 3: Look, this is fun one because it feels like this 692 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 3: is a ten minute episode of Question of Supreme, even. 693 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 5: Though I know that we've it was longer than Michelle Obom. 694 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was about to say, can you come back 695 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: after you win? 696 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 6: I can thank you, thank you, No. 697 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 3: I really appreciate it, and you know you're you're an 698 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 3: inspiration for it for a lot of us on the 699 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 3: sideline that like someone should do something, and can I. 700 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 6: Give people one more thing to do? 701 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 7: Yes, I need people to vote early starting October seventeen, 702 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 7: vote early, So Georgia has three weeks of early voting, 703 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 7: and the reasoning people to vote as early as they 704 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 7: can early voting because we know suppression is on its way. 705 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 7: We know they're making it hard to get absentee ballots. 706 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 7: They're making it hard to know your polling places. They've 707 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 7: changed the rules, and if you go to the wrong 708 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 7: polling place and you're in line for four hours and 709 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 7: you get to the end and it's the wrong polling place, 710 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 7: they will not accept your ballot. Yes, it's called a 711 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 7: provisional ballot. So the way to the way to overcome 712 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 7: voter suppression is not to let it win by staying home. 713 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 7: It is by overwhelming the poll with our presence. But 714 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 7: we need to show up early. We get there the 715 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 7: first week, we get all of the we know all 716 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 7: the problems. We can get as many things out of 717 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 7: the way, and so we're really just dealing with the 718 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 7: biggest issues, but with fewer and fewer people. As we 719 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 7: get close to election day, show up early. If we 720 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 7: show out on the week of October seventeenth, there's no. 721 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 6: Stop in us. 722 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: There he goes the big pay back. 723 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 5: I don't live here. 724 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 3: I'm taking a cue from Unfinished Business in EP Yes, finished. 725 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 3: This is the big payback for our guest today, overdue 726 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 3: Stacy Abrams, Thank you very much. 727 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: Yes, future. 728 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 3: On behalf of no. You know I believe in affirmation 729 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 3: and putting it out there. I won't be happy to 730 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 3: show Steve like paid Bill. You missed another classic and fine. 731 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 3: This is quest love and thank you again, Stacy as Hardiness. 732 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 3: We'll see you next time. 733 00:36:54,160 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: Thank you. West Love Supreme is a production of iHeart Radio. 734 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 3: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 735 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 3: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.