1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Episode three sixty nine. Jonathan Singleton one of the funniest, 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: easiest guys to talked to. I mean I always kind 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: of get into a groove or we're just hanging out. 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: It's awesome. So Jonathan Singleton music if you want to 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: follow him. His last three number ones as a songwriter, 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: Maddie and Tay Die from a Broken Heart, Beings, A 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: Man Out of Note, Laney Wilson, Ye, Same Boat, Zach 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Brown Band, We're all in. He's co owner of fifty Egg, 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: which is his publishing company, and Luke Holmes is the 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: other co owner, so you know they're paying people to 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: write awesome songs. He's from Jackson, Tennessee. Drove to Nashville 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: every chance he could during college to write, got a 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: publishing deal to write songs, and he was an artist 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: for a while. Still a great singer. He's the whole thing. 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: He's funny, engaging. After five years, he's back. Here we go. 16 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: Jonathan Singleton on the Bobby Cast. Tell me about rural 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: eats and how you're half kidding, mostly kidding, but I 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: think there's Yeah, you have a brilliant mind. So how 19 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: why would rural eats be different than uber eats. What 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: rurally is going to happen? Well, it would be in 21 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: the country. No, No, I get that. I don't rule 22 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: means I'm saying, would it only be certain types of food? 23 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: Would it be delivered to you in a covered wagon? 24 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: I mean I think they would. It would be homemade, 25 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, they would it at their house. It's unsafe, 26 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: but it's interesting. I mean, or you know, there's the 27 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: Mennonite grocery store wherever that is. It would be like 28 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: a blowny sandwich or fried. So so we're disregarding all 29 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: the rules about food and making food. I don't know 30 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: if the Menas do that. Can we say that? I 31 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: think they might be. I'm not even speaking I'm talking 32 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: in general. With Rural Eats as a brand. It sounds like, 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's a gamble. Yeah, it's a gamble like 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: move into the country. Yeah. I like it in concept, Yeah, yeah, 35 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,639 Speaker 1: I have another idea also, country artist named Keith Rural. 36 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: All my ideas are kind of based around the word 37 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: rural or rural urban versus rural. Um. That's all I 38 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: got that. That's that's a lot. Unpack that for an hour. 39 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: Rural If you say it like three times, it starts 40 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: to feel funny. It does. It's hard to put in 41 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: a song. Rural How do you say, have you put 42 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: it in a song? They said, We say, we use 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: a rural route a lot rural route. We went on 44 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: the rural out. It just even feels weird to sit 45 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: on down a rural route road, because you know how 46 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: we like to rural route. I guess you say, I 47 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: don't know. I would just go. If I were saying 48 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: a fast rural route, rural rout from Arkansas would be 49 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: the rural the rule. It's it's the rural rout rule. 50 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be in the title. I don't think. 51 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: How did you get a Grammy nominated? I mean, I mean, 52 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: this is a loving way. How does he get a 53 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: Grammy nomination? Um? We were trying to write a pop 54 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: song that day. No, I mean like, how did you 55 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: get a gram Yeah? I was like, how did you? 56 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know it's you know, I don't know. 57 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: We were trying to write a pop song. We took 58 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: a break and wrote a and wrote a like a 59 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: real song. I'm being very for real, So I like this. 60 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: So you were trying to write a pop song. I 61 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: think at the time, I shouldn't say pop song. I 62 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: think at the time Rascal Flats were cutting. That was 63 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: a long time ago. Rascal Flats were cutting and we 64 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: were like, hey, it was me and Barry Dean and 65 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: Luke Layird just go hey, man, wait, we really need 66 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: to get something in here. They're looking for a single. 67 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: So we were worked on that and worked on it 68 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: and worked on it, and we this is true story. 69 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: We were jokingly writing funny country songs. Uh, there was 70 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: a lot of dirty things that happened, and we were 71 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: just kind of clearing our minds, I think for a minute, 72 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: and then I think Luke Laird's joking lyric was diamond 73 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: rings and bars being beary with that weight. That's that's 74 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: pretty good. And I think Barry has the recording of 75 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: that song is about forty minutes. It took us to 76 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: write that song, and then we went back to our 77 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: other song that we've never nothing ever happened to and yeah, 78 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: so we got a Grammy nomination with that thing, but 79 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: the same Grammys, Uhlri McKennon was nominated for Girl Crush. 80 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: So I just didn't even go, Yeah, you didn't want it. 81 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: You haven't even checked. Probably you haven't even checked the result. 82 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: I don't think we want So you're you're like naturally funny. 83 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 1: I mean I would assume are you married? Yes? Okay, 84 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: I would assume why it drives your life crazy because 85 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: you probably know you're funny and you think you're funny. 86 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: Does she still laugh at year? She's pretty funny too, 87 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: like but she gets my weird she does? She ever 88 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: go Okay, I get enough? Uh? Because my wife, I 89 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: don't stop, you don't stop, and I'm always trying stuff 90 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: on her and she's she's funnier than I am, which 91 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: drives me absolutely bananas. And she is like, okay, enough 92 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: enough jokes because because I won't stop, I will try. 93 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: Does that happen? Are you trying them as in like 94 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: for stand up purposes or with her? And I'm curious 95 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: that the dynamic with with your wife is where I'm 96 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: getting to this. I'll give you an exact example. On 97 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: the notes I was playing the I was doing the 98 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: opery and they're like, okay, you I have twelve minutes. 99 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: And I was just doing straight stand up because I 100 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: was getting ready for a couple of shows that I 101 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: was doing here stand up shows. And I went out 102 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: and had a few new jokes, and at the Opery 103 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: you can't really launch your full arsenal of jokes. I'm clean, 104 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: but most people they are older and they're not gonna 105 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: get pop culture references or even said Michael. I mean, 106 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: they're just it's tough. You gotta be right down the middle. 107 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: And when I told this joke and I got pretty 108 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: good laugh at the Opery, and I was like, I 109 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: feeling pretty good as my wife and I were driving off, 110 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: and I know if I asked her, she's gonna give 111 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: me her real answer. I don't have to agree with it, 112 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: but she's going to give me her authenticames. And I said, yeah, 113 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: that's pretty good. And I said, for me to really 114 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: feel good about the Opery, pull them off before you head. 115 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: For me to feel good about the Opery like that, 116 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: that's that's rare. I said, I really killed and she goes, yeah, yeah, 117 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: it's good. She was that one joke you did the 118 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: new one here, you could actually make that better. I 119 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: was so offended. I was hurt. I was I was 120 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: deeply hurt, like someone took a nut stabbed in my 121 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: stern and I'm say like, and I was like, you 122 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about? Yeah, how do you 123 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: do you know about jokes? And she's like, oh, I mean, 124 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: I guess nothing. But she was like I was sitting 125 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: there and I didn't laugh. Yeah, and she was like 126 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And I was like, okay, fine, okay, 127 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: so you feel better. How would you change the joke? 128 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: And she was like, well, when you're talking about um 129 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: us talking about something serious, uh, and you could say 130 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: it this way instead of that way. And I was like, 131 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: you don't know what you were talking about. I went home. 132 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: I thought about it, like, God, she's right. So I 133 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: went out the next time I did it how she 134 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: said it freaking rock the place? Is it? Though? Yes 135 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: it is, it is, But I was hurt. Well, it's 136 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: nice to have somebody sitting absolutely that well that you know, 137 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: is going to say here's maybe it's a that. Yeah. 138 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: I just I'm so weak. If one of these guys 139 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: it said, you know, Bobby, you could make that joke better, 140 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: that probably wouldn't have win. So yeah, that we'd have 141 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: a different body in those seats. Um. Now my wife's 142 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: but her a little bit. It was difficult for me 143 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: that I'm pretty good with it now I'm not always great, 144 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: but she's really good at that. And you say your 145 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: wife is funny, Um, how is she with not only 146 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: your humor but what you do for a living? Does 147 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: she have fantastic Yeah, well she doesn't. She doesn't love 148 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: country music. That's not her first I thought, a lot 149 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: of things will be on the radio and show you know, 150 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: it'll be creeping up the top ten, and I'll play 151 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: it in the house. She'd be like, oh, I love that. 152 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: When did you do that? And it's like, what it's 153 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: you know? Um, But that's super helpful too, and it's 154 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: easy to in the same way I think I bounce 155 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: those things off her to go and and we go 156 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: too far? Is this too whatever? You want to call it? 157 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: Too country? Too on the nose? To kitchi? Or there 158 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: was one one time we were driving on the road 159 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: and I had gotten a demo back and I played 160 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: it for and she full laughed. When it got to 161 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: the courus, she laughed, it's not it wasn't a funny song. Oh. 162 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: I thought it was not a funny song at all, 163 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: And she laughed and I kind of paused because I 164 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: was enjoying. I was like, man, there this thing is 165 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: this demo sounds great, you know, and and she laughed 166 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, wait what and she was like, well, 167 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's pretty stupid. You know. It was 168 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: really honest answer that I don't think I was prepared 169 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: for it that time. Did you feel offended when she 170 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: still brings it up when you know, somebody says, oh, John, 171 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: you know Jonathan wrote some song and she's like, oh, 172 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: really also wrote this song. I didn't. I don't. I 173 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: didn't react in a way I'm proud of I did it. 174 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: That's why I brought it up. I was like, how 175 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: did you did too? It was your outward action, you know. 176 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: I don't remember I think two or three minutes after, 177 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, a logical conversation about the hook and the 178 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: way that it fell, and that I agreed with her. 179 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: But I think initially I was I was pretty offended 180 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: and or my feelings were hurt a little bit of 181 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: like I thought this was great, Like I thought we 182 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: were doing grant and I knew at that moment. Also 183 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: because she's just a person that listens to the radio, 184 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: she's not a songwriter or a that there's no way 185 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: we're getting that song on a record either. You know, 186 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: so that hurt a little bit too, because it's awesome 187 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: you have it that though it's awesome, do you do 188 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: you have that oh? No, that if you don't go 189 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: to the well all the time, if you need to 190 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: go to the well, do you feel like she's going 191 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: to give you her honest opinion? And also she doesn't 192 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: have We've been man, we've just had our eight winning 193 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: anniversary and we've been together for twenty So I don't 194 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: even really have to ask if I just put it 195 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: on in the living room. If she doesn't pay attention, 196 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: I know I've kind of missed a little bit because 197 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: and I know that's not the the target audience most 198 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: of the time. You know, if it was Meet Math 199 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: or somebody like that, she would be in. But is 200 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: she begin to Christian artist, big Christian music? He said, know, 201 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: is that Christian man? Yeah, that's why I thought that 202 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: was like me Math too. Yeah, they're great. No, it's 203 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: it's kind of indie stuff. And she likes a lot 204 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: of She loves Casey Musgrave, she loves you know, there's 205 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: there's quite a few country out she loves too. But 206 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: that's not the first choice. I can tell that she's 207 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: being nice to me if she puts on seventies and 208 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: eighties country, you know what I mean, you don't really 209 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: care about that seventies and eighties. I'm having Crook and 210 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: Chase over in a couple of weeks together, and that 211 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: to me of you know, urban will come by, Rural 212 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: Keith Keith, Rural will come by, Keith Rules, arch Nemesis, 213 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: Keith thurt and will come by or yourself prominent songwriter, producer. 214 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: But like Crook and Chase, that's awesome, that's pretty awesome. 215 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: They were a huge man, That's what everybody watched. And 216 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: I was explaining to my wife and she was like, 217 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm not I don't know. She's Maklamba, but she's twelve 218 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: years younger than I am. So she's thirty. And she 219 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: was like, I I must have missed Crook and Chase. 220 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: I said, you I think he did. Yeah, I think 221 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: he missed Crooking Chase. I listened to him every weekend 222 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: the Countdown Listen. We should watch him on TV. I 223 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: would tell, like Jimmy Westbrock from Little Big Town, like 224 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: that's how I discovered them, was they were on Crooking 225 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: Chase on their new Yeah and so because at that time. 226 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: I was in Arkansas, but I had gone into like 227 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: pop and alternative music when I was on the radio. 228 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: But they're gonna come over. And that's really awesome to 229 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: me because I was such a massive fan. And with 230 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: what you do, you get to either write with a mingo, 231 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: hang out who is it for you that you got 232 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: to meet when you're like, that's freaking awesome, Like personally, 233 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: that's freaking awesome, oh man, because you have so many 234 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean, and you write and you have had big 235 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: artists cover and I don't mean people that have prominence, 236 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: but like that's to your own heart, like this is 237 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: so cool. Yeah, um, you know we cut the first 238 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: things I ever cut in town was that Steve Crawford studio, 239 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: who was the guitar player for you know, A Thousand 240 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,599 Speaker 1: Things session Guy and Rope sitting on the dock of 241 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: the bay and he's the guitar player and Blues travel 242 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not Blues Traveler Blues Blues Brothers movie. 243 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: He's the guitar political and uh I literally one day 244 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: he was somebody was in the back of the studio 245 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: and the engineer said, hey, man, go go see if 246 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: go see who that is and when I opened the door, 247 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: like my guys standing there, you know, Steve Cropper. That 248 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: was pretty big, you know. Uh. I went to the 249 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: studio one day with Keith Urban Uh to finish, I 250 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: had to write a bridge. They were like, hey, Kee's 251 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: cutting this song. And he didn't really like the the 252 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: the bridge that much. Can you just come over here 253 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: and write one, like, no pressure? And so I did. 254 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: He ended up not cutting it. Uh. Uh. Ronnie Donn 255 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: was in the machine one day when we were over there, 256 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: and he was so sweet, He was so nice, he guy. 257 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: I had two songs on Ronnie's last I think it 258 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: was his last record, uh, the one j De Marcus did. Uh, 259 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: he just put one out, so probably one before the 260 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: one before, I guess him. Um. And I talked to 261 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: him about it, and he talked about the melody and 262 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: the lyrics and stuff like that. It was real gracious 263 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: and nice and sweet and and uh that was pretty great. Um. 264 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: Ronnie's one for me too, Yeah, because again I think 265 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: we probably have since musical same sensibilities Brooks and Dunn 266 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: massive just in. I mean, I remember where I was 267 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: in specific parts of my life when those specific songs 268 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: were on the radio. Like that's how and Ronnie and 269 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: I became well. People always warned me about Ronnie. First 270 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: of all, I had heard the same thing, and they 271 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: were like, hmm, he's a tough one. And I'm like, wait, 272 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: I saw am I. So either we're gonna hate each 273 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: other or we're gonna be best of friends. And he 274 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: got into like some sort of fight with like one 275 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: of the at the time Clear Channel guys, and I 276 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: just I think moved here and I didn't know what 277 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: it was. So I was always like, I need to 278 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: keep one eye opened for all Ronnie done. And so 279 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: I was doing comedy as an intro to Reba at 280 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: the Kennedy Center Arts on CBS, and so I went 281 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: up and I was doing a few minutes of comedy 282 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: and Brooks and Dune were performing that night in Christian 283 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: Chennew it was all the Reba getting the honor and so, 284 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: but I hadn't met them, and I was like, oh, 285 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: I love them, but how do I tell him that 286 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: without like being a nerd If I didn't, I just 287 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: went to I saw them and said, hey, it kicks 288 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: his like life at the party, you mean kicks nice, welcome, 289 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: being big hug, great to meet all that and RUnni 290 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: was like, hey, man, how are you? It was a 291 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: good walked away so cool. Um. I saw him again, 292 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: talked a little bit and we just kind of struck 293 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: up a conversation. I went and did some photo stuff 294 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: with them. We didn't heere anything together, and then we 295 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: became like friends and we're like texting and it's I 296 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: think he thought, hey, Bob school and I was like, 297 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: I would we get a text and be like, look 298 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: at my phone. That's wrong. He doesn't texting. He's sang 299 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: it at our wedding, Helen's wedding, and not as like 300 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: hey would you my management asking man, I was just like, 301 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: are you gonna be here? Neon Moon? Like as a 302 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: sad song, but like my wife met my wife as 303 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: a big song. We sang it all the time. He's like, yeah, 304 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm singing for you and I was like, what wife 305 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: is this? And it's got to be the same for you. 306 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: At times in the first story you told because I 307 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: don't know that guitar that that they I don't know absolutely, 308 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: so I gotta think that is so freaking cool. It 309 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: was way cool. And then especially if they're cool, yes, 310 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: and I assume he was he was very cool. Absolutely, yes, yes, 311 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: you have been cool. If he wasn't, yeh know, it's great. Uh. 312 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: Warren Haynes, I do the same thing with Warren Haynes. 313 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: He was the guitar player for Government People and played 314 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: with all my brothers when you know some guys. I 315 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: wrote with him one day, which is pretty awesome. Do 316 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: you remember when Kevin Costner had a record deal. I 317 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: wasn't here, I don't think. So he was on Universal 318 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: South and I was too many many moons ago. Is 319 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: that Johnson singles in the Grove? Yeah, it was on 320 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: We're on Universal South. So he was doing that. He 321 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: did this record which was pretty great man. And and 322 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: uh uh and I think he donated all the money 323 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: that he made on this record to some charity. But nonetheless, 324 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: so it's me and Randy Hauser and there was elam 325 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: Band and a couple of guys playing this show and 326 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: Kevin Costumers can play. When we're all on the back 327 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: in this room green room, getting ready to we're all 328 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: talking and having to drinks. Some's never talking real loud, 329 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Kevin Costamboston door and he 330 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: just got deathly wide and it was like very what, 331 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: and you could tell he knew. Like I said, he 332 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: heard the rumbling coming down the hall and then it 333 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: was kind of stop, you know. And so he got 334 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: up and walked over to everybody, and I was aware 335 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: of everybody's music and who was playing with and and 336 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: and really really nice man and tried his best to 337 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: make us not be weirdos. But I have a picture 338 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: with with me and Kevin Costner, and my mom still 339 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: brings it up. She's like, yeah, but I could be like, 340 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, I got nominated for Grammars. But remember that 341 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: time he met Kevin cost pretty it will never top 342 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: it because she loves was dancing the wolves, that's all 343 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: she sees. And I was like, oh my god, the 344 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: postman's in here. What are we gonna do? It was 345 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: pretty day. He was pretty great and his band was fantastic. Man, 346 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: it's a good record. What's It's a weird question because 347 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: you have to say to the positive and you probably 348 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: mean it. But Kevin Costner as an artist, as a singer, 349 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: compare him to sell one. Because I'm not gonna say 350 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: is he good or not? That puts you in a 351 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: weird position. Compare Kevin Costner as a singer to something. 352 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't say he's a Christapleton singer, you 353 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's probably that kind of what 354 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: do they call that, like a stylist kind of thing, 355 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: like here's the song, and I'm gonna take it and 356 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: do what I can do with it, you know. Uh. 357 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't remember him being a bad singer, 358 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: but I also don't remember being a great singer. Now, 359 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: I can't say an artist that. It's like if he 360 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: was if you went into a place and he he 361 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: wasn't Kevin Costner, who's that same guy though, singing and 362 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: it was like a Nashville bar downtown, would you be like, oh, 363 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess pretty good. He like, you wouldn't 364 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: think anything, so yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think that 365 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: I would because his show was different because it was 366 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 1: all kind of opportunities for photos, is what it was. 367 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: You know, he would like you kind of pause, and 368 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: he knew what his game was. But he was also 369 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: making money for charity at that time too, so you 370 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: know he's like, um, but yeah, I would think it 371 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: was good. His band was fantastic, and I remember going 372 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: specifically to talk to those guys and meet them because 373 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: I thought they were great players, you know, So he 374 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: was aware of of of those guys, or or had 375 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: a friend who was aware that they were great players, 376 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: at least feed it to him in his ear beforehand. 377 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: So much has happened for you since the last time 378 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: we saw each other, not in this room, but on 379 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: this show. Sure, let's talk about the Luke Holms stuff. First, congratulations, 380 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: by the way, thank you man, I mean just thank you. 381 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: I mean you produced the cold as you and I'm 382 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: going from memory here so be the back of the 383 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: deluxe of the last record and this whole record. But 384 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of the songs though it went number one, 385 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: because after all, that's it, that's forever, after all, was 386 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: the one? Um, how did you get on with in 387 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: the Luke Holmbs this team? Because Luke has his people, 388 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: and he has his people, it's hard to break into 389 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, I'm I didn't when he was 390 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: air quote Luke Combs. I did early on, and I 391 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: signed Luke to a publishing deal. So you have a history. Yeah, yeah, 392 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: I've been. I've been on you know as in no 393 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: way whatsoever take credit for anything he's done, because he's 394 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: just great and He's a great guy and a great 395 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 1: singer and a great songwriter and all those things. But 396 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: I was there. I saw him at Tin Roof. How 397 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: many years ago is that now? Five years ago? Six 398 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: years ago? I saw a thing today posted on Instagram. 399 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: It was like five years ago. And it was a 400 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: tour when he was just playing parts five years ago. Uh, 401 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: and we became bodies. We started going hunting and hanging out, 402 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: and I just thought, what a great songwriter. I didn't 403 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: think I thought anything about his artist thing, because I 404 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: really wasn't aware of that. We were it was a 405 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: songwriter show. We were playing the Tin Roof for Babel. Uh. So, yeah, 406 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: it feels like so long ago, and it wasn't really 407 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: actually isn't. I know. I guess he's done so much 408 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: if it makes it feel like we've been kind of 409 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: marathon and since all of that started. So we did 410 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: a little publishing deal and we wrote a bunch of songs. 411 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: I think the first song I wrote with Luke was uh, Texas, Uh, Houston, 412 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: we got a problem. Uh. And then we kept writing 413 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: after that and uh Me and Randy Montana were writing 414 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 1: with him. He was playing some club in Missouri. We 415 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: were out on the road with him. We didn't realize 416 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: how good it was going. You know what I mean 417 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: is like we weren't at the shows. We were at 418 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: these couples that we went to, and he said, well, 419 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: I gotta have a like a big song because I'm 420 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: gonna do uh uh when I play stadiums. You know, 421 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna need this big song. So when he left, 422 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: the bus man Randy were like, this guy, dude, he 423 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna play stadiums soon. You know what I mean 424 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: was that, whatever, let's pass by this guy, Let's try 425 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: to write this song. So we wrote being Never Broke 426 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: My Heart was the first like big song that I 427 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: had on this on this stuff. And then as you 428 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: kind of moved down the page, we had and we 429 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: had talked about, you know, production stuff, and we had 430 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: done a bunch of demos together, like his first demo 431 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: session I did with him, and it's just kind of like, uh, 432 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: in the room, in in the conversation of most of 433 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: those things that were happening. And then when Scott kind 434 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: of went away for one ever reason, uh, you know, 435 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: I specifically remember Luke going, well, hey man, you're gonna 436 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: have to help me produce these records, and I was like, 437 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: oh no, I'll not like you should call him back 438 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: and and and and talk to him again, and uh 439 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: and I think he actually did, and then it ended 440 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: up being me and Chip Matthews. It's just been fantastic, 441 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: and Luke's gotten so good at it in the and 442 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: the relatively short amount of time I mean in in 443 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: in success musical success years. He's been out for twenty years, 444 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: you know, but but in real time, I mean it's 445 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: a short amount of time to get as good as 446 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: he is at knowing what his crowd wants and wants 447 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: on the records and wants live. So it might be 448 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: the easiest job in town. Man. I mean, I'm not 449 00:21:54,880 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: gonna wood say this point to what I mean, Like, 450 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: you're right with Luke early because you saw you heard 451 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: something in his songwriting. Sure, man, those songs were just great. 452 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 1: I mean, now you yes, he can sing anything and 453 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: make it great, but he wasn't doing that. I mean, 454 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: he was purposefully pouring over over lines and he still does. 455 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: It's very specific of what because he was such a 456 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: fan of country artists, and especially three or four that 457 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: you know, Eric Church, thing is that he was gonna 458 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: like quit bringing up Eric Church. Dude, I love Eric too, 459 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: but uh, he was very shortly removed from being the 460 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,479 Speaker 1: fan in the front row of those shows. So he 461 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: knows what those people want and he's still he's still 462 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: that guy. It's hard to stay that way, but he has. 463 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: When you guys wrote beer Never Broke My Heart, what 464 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: I love about that song is how forceful that freaking 465 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: chorus hits you like in the face. Was there ever 466 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: It is gonna be a really impossible question to answer 467 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: because you may not remember, but was the melody ever different? No, 468 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: So it was just immediately I mean boom, well me 469 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: and Randy too. You know, Randy Montana had a record 470 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: deal in town. Two is a really good singer, and uh, 471 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: we get very excited when somebody can sing. I was like, oh, 472 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm a dude, he can sing these things like let's 473 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: do it, like we can't. You can't wait too to 474 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: be able to do that. A lot of times we're 475 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: kind of maneuvering maladies for artists, you know, to kind 476 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: of oh, well, he kind of does this thing or whatever. 477 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: But Luke, we were not scared at all. We're not 478 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: to remember that being the to us. It didn't matter 479 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: what the verses were. As a matter of fact, I 480 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: think they were mostly kind of afterthought, you know, like 481 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: once the chorus was set and I remember Luke beginning 482 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: to start being being really busy at that time, excuse me, 483 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: and uh he had to leave when way, And he 484 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: tells the story too, like we kind of wrote the 485 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: course and we kind of had a base of what 486 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: the verses would be, like it's like knock on the doors, like, 487 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: hey man, we forgot this radio thing. You gotta go 488 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: to this thing, and he's like, all right, I'll be 489 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: back and uh. But once we had the course, it 490 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: didn't matter, Like I don't it didn't matter what the 491 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're not good. I'm just saying, yes, 492 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: the course was the thing, and we knew he could 493 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: do that. The course is the thing. It's the thing. Yeah, 494 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: Like if you like sing that song, it's just that. 495 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: And also he's sang it three ft from me and 496 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: it's it's it's scary because he's so oh. I mean, 497 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, like a bear growling violent. Yes, 498 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: it is. It's like violently perfect. Though, So if you 499 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: okay when you're writing that, I mean obviously you had 500 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: long but would you sing it? That's strong? I tried to. 501 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: I was singing the notes, but it's not no way 502 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: I mean his Um, I don't think I'm a band singer. 503 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: You're a good singer. No, you actually are really good. 504 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: When I was sat next to him a bunch of 505 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: times and when um, and he knows it too, you 506 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean? He uh, he was very aware 507 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: of my you know, history as artists and stuff like that, 508 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: and was and so he knows it too. And when 509 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: we so when we do do stuff together, he you 510 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: can tell he's in the very nicest Luke Home's way, 511 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: just trying to outdo me just a little bit, which 512 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: is so much fun. But his, the mine is his 513 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: is so guttural, in such a blessing like voice from 514 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: somewhere else, you know. Oh yeah, I was singing the note, 515 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: but not like Luke sings the note. Loose things. There's 516 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: it's it's gross and awesome and dirty and beautiful and amazing. Yes, 517 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: there's all. There's only been a couple of people, and 518 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: you will probably lend more than this than I ever could. 519 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: There's only been a couple of people that I've either 520 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: performed with or beside or sat next to as they perform. 521 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: So I'll put that in that close range that are 522 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: violent good singers. I've been able to do a lot 523 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: of cool things, a lot of great singers. Shay Carry 524 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: flawless like the end, perfect and strong, but like violent 525 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: and Luke Party, John Party violent like he's beating that 526 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: microphone with his mouth when he sings. Who Stapleton gets 527 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: pretty violent at times, but not always. His is is 528 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: bizarre and that you would think he was screaming those notes, 529 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: but they're so controlled. I agree. That's why I say 530 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: not always, because you're like but only sometimes to seek 531 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: it to that but it's like he perfectly, Yeah, lays 532 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: off of it for a little bit. And if you were, 533 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: I were going to do that, you would have to 534 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: like rive up, you'd have to run to the microphone 535 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 1: from ten feet away to make that noise, would I can? 536 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: I can even run the microphone. But he yeah, there's 537 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: some you know, uh Drake Watt does it? Yeah, you know, 538 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: Greg does it where it's that whoa like yeah, maybe 539 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: too much there is what it feels like, you know 540 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: what I mean, like with they're selling it too and 541 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: it's that confidence of that thing I've going like, it's 542 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: it's they're going for it. Ah. I wondered. I've wondered 543 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: a much times, like do they know they're gonna hit 544 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: that note? Or is it just like I'm gonna do 545 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: everything I can to it was like two football players? 546 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: Or do they hard to hit it perfect? I don't know. 547 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: I don't either. I don't know. I don't either. When 548 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: I look back at and I I'll talk about Landy 549 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: in a second, because won the Aper Song of the 550 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: Year in Landy and I've I've been to Landing for 551 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: a while, which is awesome to see her actually doing 552 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: really well. Um. But when you go back to the 553 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: beginning of kind of your catalog at the songs that 554 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: you wrote, and you and Jim Biebers wrote together some 555 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: some big hits watching Airplanes, Billy Currington, Don't why don't 556 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: We just dance? Um? Similarly funny in a room you 557 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: and Jim Oh, Jim Oh, no doubt. Man, he's a 558 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: really really funny guy. He did the Triple Play Awards 559 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: this year, Uh, which I dread. I don't want to 560 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: talk in front of anybody. I drink a b You're 561 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: just to come over here. Um Jim made that thing 562 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: so great man, and it's always he can always find 563 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: humor in any situation. He's very funny guy. I interrupted, 564 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: you go, no, I like it because that's what I'm uh. 565 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: You guys are similar in that you just made me laugh. 566 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: And so Jim would go out on the road with 567 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: me when I'm doing stand up and I put a 568 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: little music in my stand up and I didn't know that. 569 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And so Jim has written. Jim and I've 570 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: written a lot of songs together that are funny songs, 571 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: like comedy songs, and you know, and they're all very kitchy. 572 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: Fannie Pack, you know, had a song like that. We 573 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: got I saw my grandmother naked. We got all of 574 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: that that. If um Ray Stevens was starting right now, 575 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: that probably more of his right, but more of his brand. 576 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 1: But Jim going, hey, I'm right now. Every day, I'm grinding, 577 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: every day, I'm trying to you know, he's writing with brothers, 578 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: but he's doing everybody's trying to find their own spot now, 579 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: and he's like that. Sometimes I just burnt out. I 580 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: would like to write comedy because I like comedy. That's amazing. 581 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: He'd be great. He's great at it, and so and 582 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: we did. We we have a lot, and I just 583 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: wonder for you, do you ever go all right? I'm 584 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: writing up producing, I'm doing country all the time, Like 585 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: I just want to do something that's a little different, 586 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: little shot, because you're so talented, and when it comes 587 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: to funny, do you absolutely you know? I haven't. I 588 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: didn't put any of those things out, you know, over covid. 589 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: I got a buddy of mine, Rob Snyder, bought me 590 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: this as a gift, which was so sweet. This uh 591 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: Steve i Ibanan's guitar. And about that same time, this 592 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: new drum pack came out on Superior Drummer, and I 593 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: did a punk record where I do like I Drive 594 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: a Truck as a punk song and Girl in the 595 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: Country Song as a punk song, and just and it 596 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: felt it felt so fun to spend five or six 597 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: days on those things. Uh. And I'm also done uh 598 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: in the barn at the house, I get some guys 599 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: over and it's like, hey, let's do uh songs that 600 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 1: I have written, and let's just do them as funky 601 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: as we can do them. Because we grew up doing that. 602 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: Were in between Memphis and Nashville in Jackson, Tennessee, and 603 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: and we played blue stuff and funky music all the time, 604 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: and uh, those have been fun I wish I had 605 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: a thing that was not musical. I don't I don't 606 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: even know right for funny. Because you're again, I'm gonna 607 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start calling any so this is this is it. 608 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talking about more you stuff. But I've stopped 609 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: at the compliments because I'll have some comedy questions here 610 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: to mind. I got the one being interviews anyway, So 611 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: do you ever just go I want to have a 612 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: funny idea. I wanna write a funny comedy original song. 613 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: If I do, I write a little bit of him. 614 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: And I sent him to Jim Bavers. I have done that. 615 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: You should do that to me. Okay, I'll put them out. 616 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: I put them. Jim thought a couple of my ideas 617 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: were good. Me and Jim did write. Uh uh. There 618 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: was a song called you had Me at Man's It 619 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: was it was a YouTube thing, and so I was 620 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: we were writing one day and I was telling him 621 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: this deer hunting story and I was like, yeah, and 622 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: so the deer comes by and uh, you know, pull 623 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: my bow back and I just like that and he 624 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: was like, wait, you did what And I was like, oh, 625 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: that's what you That's how you make the deer stop. 626 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: You make a deer sound. And he said, and somehow 627 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: we got to we should write a song called you 628 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: had Me at Mad? You know. Anyway, we did and 629 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: in the video there's a deer Planet video. There's a 630 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: video video. Jim went full, he went full on it 631 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: and uh, and then we also wrote I never can 632 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: think of the guy's name. Uh. They did the funny 633 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: songs at not Ray Stevens, but after him that had 634 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: all the huge hitty did the sin I Tween songs 635 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: and these Rascal Flat songs. Um. Yes, yeah. We wrote 636 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: a song after we wrote podestly parodies. Mostly so we 637 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: wrote after we had written watching Airplanes. Uh. Me and 638 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: Jim were righting one day and Jim said, wouldn't it 639 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: be really funny if we rewrote that song? And we 640 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: were the ones pody and we did our wrote our 641 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: own parody. And he texts clear to teach and he said, hey, man, 642 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: what if we write washing airplanes like this guy is. 643 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: That's what he does for a living. He washes airplanes. 644 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: And I'm just sitting out here washing airplanes, and Clia said, 645 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: if you write that, send it to me and I'll 646 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: cut it next week. And he did, and I think 647 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: we had the worst song on the record, which there 648 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: was some great songs, yes, which didn't feel as weird. 649 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: But I've never done that because Jim is so good 650 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: at it, and I've written with him so much, and 651 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: he's so fast, he's so quick on those things, and 652 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: I never can. I want still want to make them 653 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: good songs. And that's not what you're I mean, I'm 654 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: not saying that. You know. I started getting mad, no, no no, no, 655 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: but Jim and he has he's stopped me. Is that, well, 656 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: you're you're you're thinking about this too much. Man, we're 657 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: just giving, like getting on the page. It's funny. It's 658 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: not it's not a hard thing or you know what 659 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: I mean, or you're not trying to get a point. 660 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: It's just funny. You don't he I'm doing uh again, 661 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: a show to this will come out like a week later. 662 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: But I'm doing a show tomorrow and Saturday night, and 663 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: I would just tore and do stand up. I take 664 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: Jim out him my guitar, play a few songs, and 665 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna do because I do some motivational 666 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: speaking to I do some like keynote stuff and combine 667 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: all because you and I have somewhat similar backgrounds and 668 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: how we grew up and you grew up in a 669 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: trailer park along. I mean, you know, I didn't have 670 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: a lot of money. Yes, that situation probably secretly cousins 671 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: or something. There's a lot of things which I have 672 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: the same blood in some way. And so I did 673 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: my first two. I'm doing two more this week. But 674 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: Jim came out and watched and I just I'm like, 675 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: come look at it like that watching me do this 676 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: and then look at it because I want to know 677 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: what I can do. And so I'm gonna take that 678 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,959 Speaker 1: and flip it over a little bit though into like 679 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: who now will you go, hey, look at this, listen 680 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: to this and help me do what I do a 681 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: little better with with a fresh perspective, fresh ears. Who 682 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: do I do? Now? You? Who? Oh my god? Everybody 683 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: like I'm not a you get one person though? Who's 684 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: who do you? Who is the trust person that you're 685 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,719 Speaker 1: gonna text something to and go I just wrote this. 686 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's right or not because it's 687 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: a little different. Put your ears on it, let me 688 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: know your thoughts. But and they're not gonna go hey man, 689 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: it's great, They're gonna go this part. I like this 690 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: part is kind of weird. You you're gonna trust good 691 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: and bad? Well, that's that's a real hard question because 692 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: it depends on what it was a hit song? Is 693 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: that what we're talking about. I mean, it would be 694 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: it was well, I know, I mean, I know who 695 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: would be. The weird thing is it's she's not a songwriter. 696 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: I mean Tally uh Johns Canterbury. That works with us 697 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 1: and and and I only kind of do that with her. 698 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: I do with my wife too, I think, um, but 699 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: Tally runs everything for us. So I I feel like 700 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: I kind of know, like lyrically musically, if that's right. 701 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: The thing I don't know a lot of times if 702 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: is if that fits in the whatever version of country 703 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 1: radio or or whatever DSPs or whatever's hot. I don't 704 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: know if it fits in that thing. And she does 705 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: know that, so I do do that with her. That 706 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: would be where you need perspective the scope of what 707 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 1: is being picked as popular. Now. Yeah, I'm purposefully not 708 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: trying to listen to current uh country radio country songs 709 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: shouldn't have said country radio. I forgot where I was. 710 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: And but I'm you're purposely not trying to do it 711 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: because you feel like you're chasing something that's too late. 712 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: If you're on that, if you're on that train and 713 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: you go, oh man, I love and I love Morgan Wallin, 714 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: I love John Party, I love those things, and I wait, 715 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm just now on Morgan Wallin's to you know, records 716 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: ago because it's too late for me to try to 717 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: chase anything that he was doing on that in that time. 718 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: Uh And and a lot of guys are the same way. 719 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: So I try to not listen to those, and I'm 720 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 1: afraid it'll get in my brain. I'm a little scared 721 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: that I'll be like, oh man, that thing because you 722 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: kind of know how to do it. It's like if 723 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: you know a little bit of magic, you know, like 724 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: here's a magic track. We all I gotta do is 725 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: just hold a cigarette behind my finger for a little 726 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: bit longer. If we do that in the rhyting room too, 727 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,959 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, oh, I see how they got there, 728 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: But I've gotta wait ten years to do that. And 729 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: then I'll bring yeah exactly. Yeah, you have any rhymes 730 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: that you look back now and go, I kind of 731 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: regret put that rhyme in song because it was oh yeah, 732 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: that thousands of them. Yeah, or you hear it and 733 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: you're kind of cringe. You're like, I don't mean know, 734 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: I'm on and gone. It's so easy you say the 735 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: same word. Is that you don't even realize you said 736 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: the same word. What comes to mind first when I 737 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: asked that question doesn't even have to be and and 738 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: if you go, you know what, I'd rather than not 739 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: because I may implicate another person. I completely understand. But 740 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: I and as you think about it, I have things 741 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: that I have done or written and I'm like, and 742 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: that have done pretty well, but I'm like, oh, I 743 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 1: can't even well. There are certain rhymes we always make 744 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: fun of me, so rhyters like true and blue, and 745 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: sometimes you can't help, Like it's you know, we always 746 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: need to look up in the rhyming dictionary, and it's 747 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,240 Speaker 1: like I can't believe that I'm looking up the word 748 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,959 Speaker 1: truck in being rhymes again, Like I'm doing it again. 749 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: I know I shouldn't know everything this day, True and 750 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: blue truck and up love and truck hold on. So 751 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: the depends on how country the artist is. If they 752 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: can pull that off dirt and shirt. It's like the 753 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: what does they call it? Redneck nursery rhymes to you know, 754 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: like when they feel that way, Uh, that's when I 755 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: get a little bit, like kind of cringe a little bit. 756 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: But they also work. You know we've heard those rhymes 757 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: a million times because they work, and no one else 758 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 1: is thinking about that rhyme like you are, who lives 759 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: in it and does it every single day. Right, They 760 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: probably like, did ain't that work? That's a People love 761 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: Dr Seuss books. Many love them, you know what I mean? 762 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: Feels so good? Publish a company of the epp Now 763 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,919 Speaker 1: I'm intrigued for a couple of reasons. So fifty egg 764 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,919 Speaker 1: which is why why is it called eggs? Uh? Cool 765 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: hand reference? I never seen Luke, You've never seen that. 766 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: It's like a referenson. Know, Paul Newman? That same person 767 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: to me, I'll be honest with you for a long time, 768 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: Selena go and who's the one that Ziker? Who's one 769 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: like Selena Gomez? Uh? The Botto they were the same 770 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: person to me, Like they could beat to me, Yeah, 771 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: I know either one of those people, so that those 772 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 1: two people are the same person to me. So one 773 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: drove race car? Who I don't know, Paul Newman, did 774 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 1: you drop race car? Uh? In real life? Yeah? Oh 775 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. Did he? And that who you're talking about? Though, 776 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: you should know everything about him if you're referencing something 777 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: about him, right? Is this so fifty eggs? How did 778 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: you guys come up with that? Well? I love that's 779 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: my favorite movie, cool Hand. Look, I love it. I 780 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: think it's great. Um, I've seen it's okay, let's let's 781 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: rewind what the guess cal hand Luke about hand Luke, 782 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: he's a guy that loses in a small town. He's 783 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: but we're kind of smart guys lives in small towns 784 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: and board and so he gets drunk and he cuts 785 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: the heads off of um parking meters. So catchman put 786 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: him in jail. Oh, and so he's in I think 787 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: it's miss about you've heard phrases. Uh, what we have 788 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: here is a failure to communicate. That's from the movie. Yeah, yeah, 789 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: So it's in this jail and the warden guy, it's 790 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: kind of like, hey, it's the same guy kind of 791 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: that's in Oh brotherwere aren't that with the glasses and 792 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: the thing and the dark kind of figure that's supposed 793 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: to be the devil and anyway, So in jail, he 794 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: kind of does things to just pass the time. You know. 795 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 1: He said, he'll try to break out, or he'll do 796 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: something funny, or they play cards. And then there's one 797 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,760 Speaker 1: time he's playing cards and he bets all the money 798 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: in camp and and then they win and all this stuff. Anyway, 799 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: so he bets that he can eat fifty eggs, and 800 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: that's the uh, like the big kind of pinnacle of 801 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: the movie where it starts. Does he does he he's 802 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: fifty eggs? Yeah? Yes, spoiler alert? Does he everywhere? Like? 803 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: He doesn't? He can't vombit. I can't bombit in the 804 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: in the in the movie, he that that was a 805 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: rule that they had said to things. So he eats 806 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: fifty eggs, and I can't remember what happened. Uh, I 807 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: think he gets killed. He just escapes prison. He gets killed. 808 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 1: That's how that movie ends. Inside ends. I mean, it 809 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: was a long time ago. Dang, I did not think 810 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: that's one I was going. We just ruined that movie 811 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: for everybody. I came out twenty seven or something, right, 812 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, So anyway, in the movie he 813 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: also said, you know, he said, well, why would you 814 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: do something like why don't you fit the eggs? Like that? 815 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: He was like, I don't something to do? And I 816 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,919 Speaker 1: K yeah, I know that. Yeah. I kind of felt 817 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: the same way about about a published company. Uh, you know. 818 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 1: And I've been working with Tally on that thing. And 819 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: and so our first signing was was Luke Holmes and 820 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: then uh read his boat that steal rights with me. 821 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: And look, so now the company is me and Tally 822 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: and Luke all together, and we got great people, and 823 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 1: it's turning it away more than something to do. It's 824 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: really great and fun and seems like a way to help. 825 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: It seems like a way to help for Luke. Uh 826 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: to kind of uh, you know, that's the front lines 827 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:12,439 Speaker 1: of Nashville to us, I think is new songwriter comes 828 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,399 Speaker 1: to town. What do I do? You know, I'm good 829 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 1: enough to go play some gigs and and have some 830 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: people hear me, and now I've got I'm needing them, 831 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 1: gonna get a little bit of money, and that's gonna 832 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: help me do X y Z, you know, or where's 833 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: the x y Z like C d E, you know 834 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: at least, so it's fun doing that. And we've had 835 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people come out of that thing in 836 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 1: Ashton Craft signed up to a big loud and Tyler 837 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: Braden's in that pile, and and uh why I'm a 838 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:45,439 Speaker 1: coming Gray Robinson, she's so great, you know, it's still 839 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: slightly green, but the right amount of green for today 840 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: to take that next big step. And her songs too, 841 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 1: and then and all the pace uff. We we kind 842 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: of like it's mostly it's songwriters, you know, and that 843 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: it's songwriters plus I think is what we're doing. But 844 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: a song routing is so interesting to me. And I've 845 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,959 Speaker 1: sat and written with her and it's like, for there's 846 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: a few artists in town where it's like, oh, I 847 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: should just shut up for a minute, And she's that 848 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: way because I'm not my my my perspective doesn't fit 849 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 1: into her song. Most of the time. You're just kind 850 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: of helping, And I like doing that more than writing 851 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: a song for somebody. You're just kind of helping Gray 852 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: because she kind of knows where she's going to. Her language, 853 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: the way she gets two things is so interesting. That's 854 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: like an advanced emotional quirkiness when she and not just 855 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: listening not listening to her sing because I like her 856 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: as a performer two, but her songwriting. You're just like, oh, 857 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: that's an interesting way to say that. Oh, and that's 858 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: what you're like. Oh, and by the end of you're like, oh, 859 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: I get it. I never would have thought to even 860 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: say it like that Damsel Damsel in this Dress song. 861 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna love it, and there's no way 862 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,399 Speaker 1: I can write that song. So it feels like I'm 863 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: not working in that room, you know what I mean. 864 00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: I didn't write that song with her. I wish I had. 865 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: And then the Fireworks song and I saw the title 866 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, 867 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: it's almost worthed you like, I know, I get it, 868 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: you know. And then I heard the song and I 869 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: was like, holy crap, that's what I said there. When 870 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 1: you finished it, I was like yeah, I was like wait, 871 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 1: what that's how I expected that to. Oh man, me 872 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: either Tally text me the song and it said fireworks 873 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: on it and I was like okay, and uh, oh man, 874 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: when it was over, I was like, okay, no, you 875 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 1: got me, Like isn't that at this stage of your 876 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: success where you've had so much and you are now 877 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 1: really succeeding in other parts of the industry, not just 878 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: writing songs. But is that like fulfilling to you to 879 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 1: be a part of that, like that next generation, and 880 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: not feel like you have to put your fingerprint on 881 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: it exactly, but be there for them in a way 882 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 1: that makes them better. And I think that's how you 883 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: stay excited. Like we've got guys and girls coming in 884 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,479 Speaker 1: there every day who are so excited to be there 885 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: and they're rotting with hes like are you're rotting with 886 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: And do they say a name? It is like I 887 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: don't even know who that is, you know, saying of course, 888 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,479 Speaker 1: But their excitement excites me, you know, and I love 889 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: I still like beating them too. I like to beat them, 890 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 1: you know, and in the nicest way ever, I like to, 891 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, destroy their dreams. Now. It is exciting that 892 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: as they get better and better and better, that it 893 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: drives you to stay better and better and better too. 894 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: And that's the only way you can stay that way, 895 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 1: I think, you know, by hearing what the new people, 896 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 1: because how many times can we true and blue and 897 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: dirt and shirt and love and truck, you know, and 898 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: they're finding new ways to do it, which is amazing 899 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,359 Speaker 1: to me. I thought, me and Jim and derrek Orten 900 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 1: and Jesse as we always like, but this has gotta 901 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,839 Speaker 1: be the end. There's no way new people can come 902 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: in and find new ways to do this, and they can. 903 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: It's amazing. So what do you spend most of your 904 00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: days now? I write nearly every day. I love Writing's 905 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: still every just sitting down and four five days a 906 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: week I'll do and it's mostly artists these days, you know. Uh, 907 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 1: but I still love it and I feel like, and 908 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,320 Speaker 1: I've heard a million times, you know, the more creative 909 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 1: you are, the more creative you are. So I don't 910 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 1: want to stop doing that. I'm not sure what I 911 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: would do, you know. Otherwise I would still be whatever 912 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 1: I was doing. I would still be writing a song 913 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: in my head. I think. I still love doing that. 914 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: And I love when artists come in and they and 915 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: you're solving the problem for him, you know, and we 916 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 1: need up tempo single, or we need about or we 917 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 1: need whatever, or helping them work on their idea. So 918 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: I write every day. Tally runs everything in the office, Uh, 919 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: and then I will, you know, pop out to get 920 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: water and she's be like, hey, Jonathan, you know what 921 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 1: about this thing's happening, this thing, But okay, cool, we'll 922 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: talk about it this afternoon. And she's got it. She's 923 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: got good at it and and and smart and I 924 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: kind of I'm aware of everything that's going on. Um, 925 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:05,359 Speaker 1: but she's she's driving. For sure, you're writing songs. You're 926 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: managing a bit, right, I mean it sounds like you 927 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: have personality you have to manage a little bit at 928 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: like for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, in that way managing, Yeah, 929 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,879 Speaker 1: I mean, that's it. It's definitely a different, different part 930 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,720 Speaker 1: of the brain. What about the itch to perform because 931 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 1: and you're but you're really good, and you were really good. Obviously, 932 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: maybe people don't know that version of you at this 933 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,320 Speaker 1: point if they've only been here eight years, six years, 934 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 1: so they wouldn't. But it did exist for a long time, 935 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: it did it. His head died before I got here, 936 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: I think, you know, we played bars since I was 937 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen years old. It died, huh, you know, 938 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,400 Speaker 1: in the way of what made that fun? You know, 939 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,280 Speaker 1: once I kind of met my wife and I didn't 940 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: want to you know, drink too many beers or hang 941 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 1: out and watch the sun come up? Is you know, 942 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well what am I? What am I doing? Then? 943 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 1: It never was it was It never was to me 944 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: about the crowd and them me feeding off the crowd. 945 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 1: We played too many bars for that. It was you 946 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,879 Speaker 1: had to find another thing that was interesting in that 947 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: little bar where nobody was paying attention to you. And 948 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: for me, that was the guys I was playing with, 949 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 1: you know, and I still play with those guys, and 950 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 1: I have at my house a little we called the 951 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: party Barn, and I have a stage and I have 952 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 1: gear set up, and once ever, you know, two or 953 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: three months, we'll get together. My guitar players now out 954 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 1: on the road with Luke Combs, and then my drummers 955 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 1: with Eric Church and uh, the other guys are playing 956 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 1: around town and stuff like that. So we'll kind of 957 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: set a time, you know, a bunch of old guys 958 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 1: have set a time and we'll just go play. Yeah, 959 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 1: we'll go play. And and we did it. What was 960 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 1: that three or four weeks ago? We played a little 961 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: bit and hung out and just you know, hey, you'll 962 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 1: remember this song. Let's play some song, and that feeds 963 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 1: my inch because that was the thing I loved, is 964 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 1: hearing this guy play the song that I was singing, 965 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,360 Speaker 1: or that this drummer play the song that I was singing. 966 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 1: Uh So I have no desire to go. I like 967 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: playing songwriter nights. You know sometimes, what about playing guitar though, 968 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 1: just itself? You're a big guitar guy, do it every day? 969 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: You do you sit? Do you sit at home and 970 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,839 Speaker 1: just play by yourself? Ever? No, I mean because I'm 971 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 1: playing on guitar all day, writing the song. And but 972 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: if you're writing the song and playing, that's not to me. 973 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 1: You're yes, you're playing guitar, it's not. But do you 974 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: still enjoy playing the instrument of the guitar? Yes? And 975 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: I get to do that in the studio a lot. 976 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 1: I have a studio at the house, and I do 977 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff at home, and I I play 978 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: drums and bass and all that stuff. So I'll play 979 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 1: I'll play acoustic on something, then I'll play drums, and 980 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,840 Speaker 1: I've been doing that for ten or fifteen years, and 981 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: then I'll play everything and the thing. So I get 982 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 1: to play, you know, guitar solos, and I get to 983 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,240 Speaker 1: do that thing. But I've never been a great guitar player. 984 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 1: I love guitar players. I love songwriters too. I'm still 985 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: not sure I'm great. I'm great at that, but I 986 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 1: love guitar players and I love tones, and I love 987 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 1: this guy here's this this way, and this guy hears 988 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: it that way. But I've never been great at it. 989 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 1: I have become pretty damn good editor, So I can, 990 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 1: I can. I know what I want to hear. I 991 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 1: know what I think Vince Gill would play on guitar, 992 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 1: So I'll just chop it up and I can kind 993 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: of make that happen in pro tools, you know, to Vince, don't, 994 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 1: I don't not compare my ye heard it. That's the headline. 995 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: But that's the headline thanks to Vince Gil and Salt 996 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 1: s Gille. Yeah, that's what it is, and I want 997 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: to this is what I want to play here U. 998 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: You were talking about it, and I just like hearing 999 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: you talked about I don't gonna stop you while you're 1000 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 1: talking about it. But here is, um I drive your 1001 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,760 Speaker 1: truck punk version. Here you go. You have to drive 1002 00:49:43,840 --> 00:50:07,879 Speaker 1: you town up. Damn. That's awesome, that's dam that's fun. 1003 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 1: That's awesome chicken Fried. Here you go. You know I 1004 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: like my chicken fried on Friday nine damage just fine 1005 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 1: in the radio it's her and then when it rains 1006 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 1: of pores, here you go. Sunday morning. She will do 1007 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 1: this with the jam first, like I love this one. 1008 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,720 Speaker 1: They're green Day bass behind it. He got to Mike Dirt. 1009 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,800 Speaker 1: It's almost like long View with like just slightly turned 1010 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: down with a better vocal, and it's just I want 1011 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 1: to just give it respect and say how much I 1012 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: love the baseline in this. Thank you as you play 1013 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,800 Speaker 1: it again. Go ahead. Sunday morning. She will do fine 1014 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: man a bit in the morning on about the time 1015 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 1: and my too stay you said that girl's good is kind. 1016 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: Then Thursday came round. I was away long it's not 1017 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 1: it's it's and I get to why this it's not 1018 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: even funny, it's awesome. It's so good. It's and I 1019 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 1: know you're sick. You say, like scratching some mixture something different, 1020 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,479 Speaker 1: and I was like, it's just awesome. It's so good. 1021 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: It shouldn't be that good hearing them like that. I 1022 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 1: should be like, that's hilarious, right, But it's it's that 1023 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,479 Speaker 1: those are so strong. Thank you man, thank you. There's 1024 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 1: a there's a band called Me First and the Gimmy Gimmeys. 1025 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: That was that that did that years ago, and I 1026 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 1: forget the name of that record, Um, how do you 1027 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,799 Speaker 1: like our country or something like that, and they did, 1028 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 1: uh let the Dixie Chick song my Earl, Goodbye, Goodbye Earl, 1029 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: and it just it changed my whole life. I love, love, 1030 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 1: love pump music, and that is kind of my escape 1031 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 1: from because it's still got to be musical, right, So 1032 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 1: on my way home, if my brain is fried, I 1033 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 1: put on no Effects, or I put on for Gods, 1034 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 1: or I put on bad religion, or me first thing 1035 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 1: to give me gime Eiser or even Weezer can do 1036 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: that for me. Or I love Ever Clear Secret super 1037 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 1: ever Clear Fan. But I loved those and it makes 1038 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 1: you feel something different. It doesn't feel like you're working. 1039 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: But I thought, how funny would it be if I 1040 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 1: just did? And I called I thought maybe I drive 1041 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,479 Speaker 1: a truck was too far because I was like, because 1042 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 1: it is kind of funny, you know, And I was like, well, 1043 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 1: that's not really funny song. So I called Jesse. I 1044 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: was and I was like, hey, I'm doing this stupid 1045 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 1: punk man thing. Can I can I do I drive 1046 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,879 Speaker 1: her trun? She was like, oh, please please do that. 1047 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,880 Speaker 1: But it was an escape. It was so fun. And 1048 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: where did y'all get that from? What about it? Don't 1049 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 1: We don't know. We don't tell our sources one reporters. Basically, Yeah, 1050 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 1: it's just excellent, Thank you man, that's fun. I do 1051 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: talk about Laney Lanny Wilson. I love her, and I 1052 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 1: mean I knew Landy before just before, you know, and 1053 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 1: so the same person today. Uh as then, no doubt. 1054 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 1: I just think it would for it would be so 1055 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 1: cool to help somebody that you like, really like get 1056 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: their first number one, and that with Laney, I mean 1057 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: it changed her life, you know. And Jason Nixon was 1058 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 1: in that too, it's the first number one for him 1059 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 1: to That was amazing and Laney, you know, we did 1060 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: that number one party for the thing, and so that 1061 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: was the first time, you know, from It takes a 1062 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,840 Speaker 1: long time for those songs to come out, So I 1063 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 1: don't remember when we wrote that song, but it had 1064 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 1: to be a year before that. It was early early 1065 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 1: on and uh and seeing her as an artist then, 1066 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,720 Speaker 1: which was fantastic, but then you're now she's doing press 1067 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 1: like we're doing a number one party, and it's like 1068 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 1: there's press and there's things, and she has to look 1069 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 1: and smell and feel and do everything right, you know 1070 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 1: what I mean. And she just so flawless at it, 1071 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And her personality is such 1072 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 1: a in a in a Dolly parting kind of way 1073 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 1: where you just, how do you not like us? You're 1074 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: a real piece of trash if you don't like Landy 1075 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 1: Wilson and um and also a great song and a 1076 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 1: beautiful song. And I love that song. Uh, and it 1077 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,839 Speaker 1: was wonderful to write it with her. I don't think 1078 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,359 Speaker 1: we thought that was that would be a single because 1079 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 1: it was let's play a little him like I know 1080 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:27,799 Speaker 1: a few things of mind autumno, how to know how 1081 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:36,799 Speaker 1: to stage? I don't know, you're missing up a good thing. Again, 1082 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: You're probably not drawn to that as a single. Tempo, 1083 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:43,040 Speaker 1: it's pretty slow. Jay Joyce did the record and it 1084 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 1: breaks in the middle of a bunch and it's like 1085 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 1: that feels that's like a no No on country radio. 1086 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,840 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there was a lot of reasons for 1087 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,759 Speaker 1: it not to be. It's funny those songs where there's 1088 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 1: a lot of reason for it not to be successful 1089 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 1: when the occasional one, and that's what it takes it 1090 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: does become successful. It's it happened such a big way 1091 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 1: because it's definitely and when they see him song of 1092 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 1: the Year like and and launched her career. So it's 1093 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,800 Speaker 1: cool that the label took a chance. I'm making it 1094 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 1: a single and you guys wrote it like that, and yeah, 1095 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 1: Laney is just the lifeful we me and I haven't 1096 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 1: we haven't put it out yet, but I don't care 1097 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 1: if people hear this. But I we wrote a song 1098 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,919 Speaker 1: called opening Act. We're open up for Garth Brooks. Garth 1099 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 1: and called and said, hey, I'm playing Razorback Stadium with 1100 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 1: eight thousand people. It sold out. We don't need to 1101 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,400 Speaker 1: any tickets, just come and be the the act right 1102 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,759 Speaker 1: before me. And I was like, oh man, I don't 1103 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,759 Speaker 1: know about that. How many people. I just felt like 1104 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 1: people were Then we're gonna understand that we're a comedy 1105 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 1: group and we're eight thousand people. And so my wife's like, 1106 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 1: you will I'm from market. So I said, you would 1107 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,239 Speaker 1: kill yourself if you don't do this, and I was like, 1108 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,399 Speaker 1: So I accepted it and ago and we played this song. 1109 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 1: It's nobody cares about the opening act and I we 1110 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,880 Speaker 1: wrote it about us, and so I called Landy. I said, hey, 1111 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna do this version with other artists that no 1112 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,880 Speaker 1: really the grind to be an opening act. I said, so, 1113 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,880 Speaker 1: we we've written this song. We put an on TikTok 1114 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 1: and had like a million views right playing a live 1115 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 1: it's great. And I was like, do you want to 1116 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,439 Speaker 1: be on the verse? You want to do a verse? 1117 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, you know, I ain't done 1118 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,719 Speaker 1: a lot of comedy ritting. But she goes what you 1119 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 1: just said, Yeah, I just right right, whatever you feel, 1120 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,839 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be funny. Oh you got her 1121 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: to ride it? Oh yeah, okay. I we sent her. 1122 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 1: I sent her the whole song, but I sent her 1123 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,919 Speaker 1: an empty verse that wasn't even in the song. So 1124 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 1: she killed. She came in with two verses. She came in, 1125 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 1: she was how about this one? And she sings it 1126 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 1: and she's like, Dad, do you have it? Okay because 1127 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 1: we haven't released it. You I haven't even said that 1128 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 1: we were doing it together. But then she was like, 1129 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,239 Speaker 1: because that's my first one, how about this one? And 1130 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:38,879 Speaker 1: then she sings that and I'm like, I think that's 1131 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,840 Speaker 1: even funnier than the first one. And she's like, do 1132 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 1: you mind if I change melody a little bit. I 1133 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:43,919 Speaker 1: was like, no, this is what this is. Do whatever, 1134 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 1: and then she changes the melody just a little bit, 1135 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,759 Speaker 1: and she's so even again as a writer or even 1136 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 1: writing comedy for us, which is something she was a 1137 00:56:53,239 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 1: comfortable in. She was so authentically uncomfortably awesome. It just works, 1138 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 1: and that's kind of her personality, Like she just is authentic. Yeah, 1139 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,319 Speaker 1: and you're gonna like her or you're gonna go like, wow, 1140 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 1: I can't believe you said that. But I like it 1141 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 1: that she said that, even though make you feel slightly uncomfortable, 1142 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,279 Speaker 1: and so it's really cool that you were able to 1143 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 1: be a part of that because I like, you want 1144 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,840 Speaker 1: to like her, and that's a win for me. It 1145 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 1: was wonderful, wonderful. I love that song. I'm still so 1146 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 1: proud of that song. We're gonna wrap in a second, 1147 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,040 Speaker 1: but the last couple of things that went, we've done 1148 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,080 Speaker 1: an hour. I could literally do two hours with you, 1149 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 1: but I can't because I got I got like important 1150 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 1: stuff to do, bigger things. I have an idea for 1151 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 1: a song. I got a couple of The first one 1152 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 1: is called plural rural murals. Yeah, wait a minute, plural 1153 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 1: rural murals. So there's more than one yes in the 1154 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 1: rural and you inspired. I thought of that's why we 1155 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 1: were talking. So there's more than one at rural murals. 1156 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 1: So there's more than out in the country murals. But 1157 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 1: so murals would be like graffiti on them. But it's 1158 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 1: not honor tower thing right in her bridge. Sure a mural. 1159 00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:12,200 Speaker 1: It's like a lot of you know, it's a different things. Rural. Yeah, 1160 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, let's get Laney to do that 1161 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:19,919 Speaker 1: because she can't even say those three parks. You don't 1162 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 1: even need the song. You just need a recording of 1163 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 1: her trying to say say it fast three times. Yeah. 1164 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,600 Speaker 1: Uh so that's my first song idea. I love that 1165 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:35,160 Speaker 1: plural mural tang it plural rural murals or plural mural rules. 1166 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 1: That doesn't work though, I thought that too, But you 1167 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 1: need that. You had this before, so I thought that's 1168 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 1: why you were telling me about the word rural. And 1169 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 1: I was like, that's a funny song idea. It's a 1170 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,320 Speaker 1: comedy songs. The plural rural mural. It's even hard to say. 1171 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 1: And then you get the crowd to sing it back 1172 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 1: on the second one and they can't say it either. 1173 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 1: This is you, So introduce your song because you know 1174 00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 1: I'll do it. Let's try it right now, let's go. 1175 00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 1: It's my Keith Urban. Okay, I have no melody. But 1176 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 1: it's like you're um no, I mean like you're on 1177 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 1: the radio show. No, I don't care about that. That. 1178 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 1: That's a whole different I want to hear that though. 1179 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 1: Here's my latest song. It's a song about seeing art 1180 00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 1: in the country and then you see another piece of art. 1181 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 1: It's so unexpected. It's plural rural murals. It's hard to say, 1182 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 1: it's hard to get the crowd to sing back, and 1183 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 1: everybody has a good laugh. You know, you're driving down 1184 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 1: the dart road. Maybe it's slow, a slow song, pluraloral. 1185 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 1: Then then you can spread it out, you know, Yeah, 1186 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,600 Speaker 1: you don't wan spread that lose the comedy factor. If 1187 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,439 Speaker 1: you can say it easily, everybody would say it is true. 1188 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know. It's a funny song. It has 1189 00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,160 Speaker 1: to be funny, okay, yeah, because it's funny. So that's it. 1190 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:44,760 Speaker 1: You drive into the country, and you see some art 1191 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,000 Speaker 1: and you're like, why is there art out here? I'm 1192 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 1: in the country. And then you see another piece of 1193 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,240 Speaker 1: art and you're like, holy cow, that's that's some plural 1194 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 1: ural murals out here right right right? Tell me that 1195 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 1: ain't a comedy hit the crosses over? I love it? Okay, Okay, 1196 00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,360 Speaker 1: let me see what else I hear it, because I like, 1197 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 1: do you keep a listening your phone and things? Do? 1198 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 1: I got some funny ones. You don't have to you 1199 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,520 Speaker 1: can even do real ones. Don't share anything that you're 1200 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,560 Speaker 1: super precious about because people will for sure steal them. 1201 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 1: I don't care, okay. Um. I have a song called 1202 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 1: small Pepmobile. Now here's the thing about small Pepmobile, okay, 1203 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 1: and why I'm nervous about sharing it with you. You're 1204 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 1: a big, big truck. Yeah, and it's a kind of 1205 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 1: that sounds kind of about that I got you. Yeah, 1206 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you know, why why your tires so big? 1207 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,280 Speaker 1: You know? I love that? And you're you're driving your 1208 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 1: small pep mobile, pepe small peep mobile, you know people 1209 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 1: from here, Yeah, playing leaner. It could also be like 1210 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 1: a children's toy thing that's a small pep mobill like 1211 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:44,280 Speaker 1: if they got atka. Yeah your truck, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, 1212 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,960 Speaker 1: I gave you too, matching I had, I had one 1213 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,280 Speaker 1: car and I've played this for jim uh country credit 1214 01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:54,440 Speaker 1: card like a yeah. So he's he's out of money 1215 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,720 Speaker 1: on his country credit card and he's a new artist 1216 01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 1: in town and you've gotta have, you know, a Philson 1217 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 1: jacket and some and some boots. So he's calling his 1218 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,680 Speaker 1: dad and said, dad, can you put some money on 1219 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 1: my country credit card? Ah? That was it. That was 1220 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,960 Speaker 1: the whole idea. Interesting. I still I'm going with small people. 1221 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 1: People will still well my title was bad. Yeah yeah, yeah. 1222 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,439 Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be like your country credit card, 1223 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,720 Speaker 1: Like in the country, your credit card is a little 1224 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,160 Speaker 1: different than what it would be in the city. You know, 1225 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 1: he's like buying country crib though. You see what I'm saying. 1226 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,240 Speaker 1: I do now, Okay, yeah, I didn't deliver. You know, 1227 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 1: people don't know if your storytelling. So let's move on 1228 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:33,800 Speaker 1: to something else. Okay, how about I'll beat your little spoon. 1229 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 1: But I'm a dude singing it to a girl. I 1230 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 1: love that. Now I'll be your little spoon. You're in 1231 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 1: the front. Yeah, I love that it's sensitive. You know 1232 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 1: the times it's perfect for that. Maybe you make it 1233 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 1: non what is that called? Like you don't do boys, 1234 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,800 Speaker 1: you don't do girls or manner? It's just what is 1235 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:59,840 Speaker 1: that called? It's not like they's all the general neutral 1236 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,480 Speaker 1: gender neutral. Some When I go to sleep at night, 1237 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,960 Speaker 1: I mean we we go when I look into the 1238 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 1: sky and see the moon. Oh be a little spoon. 1239 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,200 Speaker 1: That's not really it, but you know who knows. Yeah, 1240 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 1: I guess I got three there. That's those are hits. 1241 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,440 Speaker 1: Um howon and spoon is also another rhyme that I 1242 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 1: was That's hard for me to get to it, Like 1243 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:19,440 Speaker 1: that was a lot of bending and rhyman to get 1244 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 1: that one there. Um and then as if there's anything, Okay, 1245 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,520 Speaker 1: I just gave you three excellent ideas. Do not steal them. 1246 01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,240 Speaker 1: Um if you do, if you want to Grammy, I 1247 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,520 Speaker 1: will play this back. Um all right, but I think 1248 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 1: rural mural lural rural murals, there's alwaly something to them. Yeah, 1249 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,320 Speaker 1: I have recently switched. I got more song ideas. I 1250 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 1: don't have any of my funny ones in here. Um, 1251 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 1: so some of my lines for a small people bill 1252 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 1: does he having a midlife crisis or does he just 1253 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 1: hate the environment? I love that. I love that. Um 1254 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 1: so that that's just one line I wrote for that one. Okay, well, yeah, 1255 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 1: I thought I had more lines to that, but that 1256 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 1: I guess that was just the only line I had there. 1257 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 1: Um well, listen, you are one of my favorite people, 1258 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,800 Speaker 1: like always, but were so good at this. We did 1259 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,720 Speaker 1: easily an hour. I'm it's so cool to see you're 1260 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 1: publishing company thriving, and I the fact that you've been 1261 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,400 Speaker 1: able to do it at a high level for so 1262 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 1: long and you're still going. I don't have it down 1263 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 1: because there's no such thing as having it down. I 1264 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:26,800 Speaker 1: gotta keep chasing what's coming at us like that. That 1265 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,200 Speaker 1: is that's inspiring you. I would not say that down, 1266 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,400 Speaker 1: but you could. But with that many number one songs, 1267 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think just number one four. You have 1268 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,600 Speaker 1: so many number ones aside from the producing, aside from 1269 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,680 Speaker 1: you could just go I'm the best. I mean, I'm great. 1270 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,480 Speaker 1: I've written thirteen number massive songs too, not just songs 1271 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,840 Speaker 1: they hit number one and people forget about them because 1272 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,960 Speaker 1: they rang the bell and the label pushed it up. 1273 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,160 Speaker 1: But chasing airplanes and why don't we just dance beer? 1274 01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,440 Speaker 1: Never Broke My Heart? Those songs are massive and are 1275 01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:01,640 Speaker 1: going to be around for ten, twelve, fifteen, twenty years played. Yeah, 1276 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,480 Speaker 1: I hope. So it's awesome. So it's really cool that 1277 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:06,440 Speaker 1: you know, die from a Broken Heart. By the way, 1278 01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:10,320 Speaker 1: from Maddie and Tay, I told them that song was 1279 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,960 Speaker 1: like their song to me too. I love that one. 1280 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,040 Speaker 1: In the new version of Maddie and Tay, you know 1281 01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,959 Speaker 1: what was the first one that girl in the Country's great? 1282 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,800 Speaker 1: But again it was that, Okay, these girls are older, Now, 1283 01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 1: how do we do this? How do we this? Love 1284 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,720 Speaker 1: that problem? I love that problem and trying to trying 1285 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,080 Speaker 1: to help them figure it out. I love them so much. 1286 01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,320 Speaker 1: They're wonderful. I want to leave with this and you 1287 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:33,880 Speaker 1: can leave a little serious. And I get for people 1288 01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 1: listening because we have a lot of songwriters that listen 1289 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,600 Speaker 1: to this, because I spent an hour with people who 1290 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:38,959 Speaker 1: we were able to break down the craft a little 1291 01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,320 Speaker 1: more than you would in an eight minute second. Right, um, 1292 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 1: And you're talking about publishing and these writers that you're 1293 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 1: signing as a songwriter. If somebody's listening and they're going, man, 1294 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,919 Speaker 1: I think I'm good enough for a publishing deal, and 1295 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,480 Speaker 1: they sit there sending stuff out. They're not feeling like 1296 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 1: they're being heard. It's a very difficult talent to actually 1297 01:04:56,320 --> 01:05:01,160 Speaker 1: be heard, be listened to. What does sell one do? Who? 1298 01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 1: How do they start being a songwriter for a living 1299 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:09,480 Speaker 1: or getting with someone at the published company to listen. Oh, 1300 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 1: it's it's it's different now, and it used to because 1301 01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,120 Speaker 1: we have social media, we have, you know, so many 1302 01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:20,400 Speaker 1: ways of getting getting to those things. Does someone get 1303 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,960 Speaker 1: to you with the song? Yeah, with the four or 1304 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,680 Speaker 1: five songs they feel super passionate about how do they 1305 01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:29,840 Speaker 1: get to you? That's a good question. I mean, we're 1306 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 1: usually going to people because we have so many of 1307 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:36,959 Speaker 1: us have thirteen twelve thirteen writers that are great songwriters. 1308 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,040 Speaker 1: So we're not like actively looking until something pops up, 1309 01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But we're not looking in 1310 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,480 Speaker 1: the same places that they are. I mean, it's it 1311 01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,439 Speaker 1: was it's a lot of like teen Room Provivable, it's 1312 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 1: a lot of those things, their songwriter Nights in Town. 1313 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,600 Speaker 1: We're still doing those. We're still kind of scour those things. 1314 01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:57,320 Speaker 1: And and uh, two guys with it we've signed are 1315 01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:01,720 Speaker 1: off of off of Instagram, you know, um, uh, that's 1316 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,920 Speaker 1: still happening, and it's not tag you and stuff possible 1317 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,120 Speaker 1: ten is annoying. Don't do that. Go to your house 1318 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,760 Speaker 1: to play outside, John Cusackle the bux do. We get 1319 01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,880 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, hashtag FITZI egg thing and 1320 01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,440 Speaker 1: I think somebody probably looks at those. It's not me. 1321 01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that I'm on there anymore. 1322 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,440 Speaker 1: You know, I'm I would like to hang out with 1323 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,280 Speaker 1: my kids, you know. But yeah, I mean it's probably 1324 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,360 Speaker 1: song right, It's a lot of word of mouth. So 1325 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,600 Speaker 1: if you're not, it's still the same old game at 1326 01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:33,600 Speaker 1: that's go out and meet more songwriters and meet more songwriters, 1327 01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 1: and you got you get better when you do that. 1328 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 1: And if you're not regimenting songwriting then and you have 1329 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,600 Speaker 1: a backup plan, that's probably not gonna happen anyway. You know, 1330 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,240 Speaker 1: you gotta sit down and write those things and study 1331 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:49,440 Speaker 1: and study and study the guys that you love. Uh, 1332 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,560 Speaker 1: and that's what you do. I mean, I know that's 1333 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,560 Speaker 1: what the new guys are doing. And and uh, we 1334 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,920 Speaker 1: got a new guy over there. Why am I coming in? 1335 01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:00,360 Speaker 1: It's just one of my favorite songwriters and every body's 1336 01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,640 Speaker 1: doing it in a different way. He's not crazy on 1337 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,520 Speaker 1: TikTok or Instagram or doing those things, and and and 1338 01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,280 Speaker 1: but it was a lot of times. It's like the 1339 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 1: people that we love and songwriters in town that don't 1340 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,120 Speaker 1: have publishing companies. You know, we're in a great position, 1341 01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,400 Speaker 1: me and a few other guys Ashley Gourley and Dallas 1342 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,480 Speaker 1: Davidson of people going other songwriters that are in town 1343 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:21,959 Speaker 1: and going, oh my god, have you heard this guy? 1344 01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,960 Speaker 1: And I get those a lot now, which is great. 1345 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,000 Speaker 1: So that's the way to do it is work like 1346 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,240 Speaker 1: anything else you would work. It's nothing nobody's I'm gonna 1347 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,080 Speaker 1: call you and go, hey, man, you've got any songs. 1348 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,480 Speaker 1: There's too many people here. They're great, and they're working 1349 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,840 Speaker 1: their busts off to try to get them heard, you know. Yeah, 1350 01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 1: and it's not knocking on doors anymore. They still but 1351 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,200 Speaker 1: they still do that. By the way, what lest I 1352 01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,160 Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen. So I'm gonna make it not 1353 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,240 Speaker 1: awkward here. I'm not going to accept the publishing deal 1354 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 1: from you guys. I know you've heard three guld ideas. 1355 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:50,880 Speaker 1: That's all you needed here to know. I mean, I 1356 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,200 Speaker 1: came up with those all we're sitting here for two 1357 01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:53,640 Speaker 1: of them. I care, well, I'm sitting here with you one. 1358 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,840 Speaker 1: I already had small people and going, um, but I'm 1359 01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,520 Speaker 1: gonna pass on this deal. Okay, but maybe next time 1360 01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,480 Speaker 1: around and I could get you in touch with some 1361 01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,000 Speaker 1: people who don't want to be in touch with anybody 1362 01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,120 Speaker 1: man in touch with me. I'm all good on touch 1363 01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,360 Speaker 1: until you're just gonna keep your Yeah, I'm gonna keep 1364 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,680 Speaker 1: it with my other jobs. Yeah, we're doing okay right now. 1365 01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 1: So but anyway, so you get to keep her publishing too, 1366 01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,760 Speaker 1: which is you know, that's a good thing. Yeah, I'm 1367 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,400 Speaker 1: really rich off that. But you should really mate, you know, 1368 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,680 Speaker 1: I can't even think I'm not gonna throw anybody out 1369 01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:24,479 Speaker 1: of the bus. Look, you are awesome, and I could 1370 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,679 Speaker 1: compliment you. I just like hanging out with you. Thank 1371 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,760 Speaker 1: you for coming over, really, man, I appreciate it to 1372 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,679 Speaker 1: This is fun. There he is. That's a guy right there, 1373 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,720 Speaker 1: Luke Combs. All right, everybody will see you next time.