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Speaker 4: Thirsday, you are looking kind of live somewhere back There
Speaker 4: is whoa Ford Center there. It is a little bit
Speaker 4: of life Ford Center at the Star in Frisco, Texas.
Speaker 4: You're looking at Tostitos Plaza outside of that Ford Center
Speaker 4: where there is kind of a big deal going on tonight,
Speaker 4: big big, big deal. The ACM Awards are in town
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Speaker 4: of crazy things. It's lightning, it's starting to rain. It's
Speaker 4: going from like pitch black to brightness. It is raining thunderstorms.
Speaker 4: According to the weather app it's seventy three degrees. And
Speaker 4: I don't know the highs and lows. They change the
Speaker 4: weather app, so I don't know what's going on. So anyway,
Speaker 4: it feels good. There we go the high's going to
Speaker 4: be seventy nine, the low is going to be sixty seven.
Speaker 5: And he's Shannon, he's Nate. We got Chris tweaking and
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Speaker 4: Hey, there we go man. Lots to talk about. The
Speaker 4: schedule is out, Dak Prescott's prices going through the roof. True,
Speaker 4: we're using players in the wrong ways and that's why
Speaker 4: they can't get on the field. All kind of good stuff, man, Howard.
Speaker 4: First off, Nate, you, how how do you feel? How's
Speaker 4: your physical well being? How your needs doing?
Speaker 6: Man? I am super great man, and I like that
Speaker 6: players being used the wrong way. I brother, thank god
Speaker 6: somebody man enough in this media coaching staff to say that,
Speaker 6: thank you.
Speaker 4: We will get into that. It's just a little bit, hey,
Speaker 4: question about your about your physical well being? Now that
Speaker 4: your knees are better, do different parts of you feel
Speaker 4: better like your back and you're.
Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, everything feel better, man, Yes, yes, the drive
Speaker 6: its own baby, ye.
Speaker 4: So everything kind of straightened everything out.
Speaker 7: Of sir, just everything is going in the right direction.
Speaker 8: Surge.
Speaker 5: You were out on the field last week with the rookies.
Speaker 6: Nah, I didn't show them nothing, man, But I was
Speaker 6: watching them. Man, Greg Ellis is out there and I
Speaker 6: did not. Yes, I did not know where you were
Speaker 6: out there. Just no, no, no, no, I will. I
Speaker 6: will just if I if I'm fortunate enough to go
Speaker 6: to his training camp. Man, I'm gonna be out there
Speaker 6: with coach Mike Cilari because he gonna need me with
Speaker 6: these two young new guys.
Speaker 4: Now, wait a minute, hang on, this is starting to
Speaker 4: make sense. Now, Nate gets double knees. He's out there
Speaker 4: with the rookies. He's talking about coach Salari needing some help.
Speaker 4: Is there a a Is there a kind of a mentor.
Speaker 5: In the room.
Speaker 6: No, I ain't no mentor, bro. I'm just gonna be saying, yeah,
Speaker 6: do it, brother.
Speaker 7: Double stuff, double tap.
Speaker 5: They need you to get in your face, get on.
Speaker 4: I know, no, lay some hands.
Speaker 7: On something in today's society. I've said it once.
Speaker 6: I said twice that the Charles Hayley theory does not work,
Speaker 6: you know, even talking to coach them. If y'all don't
Speaker 6: mind me, yeah, I talked to coach them this past. Uh,
Speaker 6: he's hardcore, but he understands that. Uh, in this new generation,
Speaker 6: you know, you have to you have to be willing
Speaker 6: to explain. You know that you can be forceful, but
Speaker 6: you got to be willing to explain to these kids
Speaker 6: why they need you know why. When we was growing up, hey, man,
Speaker 6: go get go, go go get that whatever, go do this.
Speaker 6: I run through that dummy. I'll run through that wall.
Speaker 6: And you just did it. Now you'll be like, Okay,
Speaker 6: the reason we need you to pick up this dummy
Speaker 6: is you know, you got to go and.
Speaker 4: This is the end result, and this is why you
Speaker 4: need to do it. Do it this way instead of
Speaker 4: this because I told you too.
Speaker 7: Yeah, do it twice them days open.
Speaker 6: So but he you know, and I was talking to
Speaker 6: me like, Nate, I'm the same guy. I need for
Speaker 6: people to be responsible to do their jobs. You know,
Speaker 6: people gonna be put in place to do their jobs.
Speaker 6: And see that is I love coach Quinn, you know,
Speaker 6: and I always backed him and all but and we
Speaker 6: all and I hate the jump, but Mazi, we drafted
Speaker 6: you at three hundred and twenty pounds three hundred and
Speaker 6: fifteen pounds, for you to go out and get down
Speaker 6: to two eighty and and try to be something that
Speaker 6: you're not, you know, put yourself at a disadvantage. You know.
Speaker 6: Uh now maybe health wise, maybe it was the best
Speaker 6: thing for you, but that ain't why they drafted you
Speaker 6: for the health. While we drafted you to stop things,
Speaker 6: to stop up holes and to eat up blocks. And uh.
Speaker 6: And that's that's who you are. Brother.
Speaker 7: And when I went out to that little camp, uh.
Speaker 6: I saw well built u defensive lineman, just the Rogers
Speaker 6: kid from Auburn, big, big, not He's not sloppy, not
Speaker 6: a bunch of rolls, fat rolls hanging off of him.
Speaker 7: He looks good.
Speaker 6: Uh. They had another kid, another big kid, Denzel uh
Speaker 6: Dixon Daxon.
Speaker 7: He looked I mean it just they looked at like
Speaker 7: d tackles.
Speaker 6: Thick, you know, a robust, not overweight, not all I've
Speaker 6: been out of shape just and uh, but they're not
Speaker 6: first and second and third round picks. He's a seventh,
Speaker 6: seventh and free agency. And uh, you don't expect a
Speaker 6: great deal from them, but there they mas has to
Speaker 6: come on.
Speaker 5: So why did they change why did they try to
Speaker 5: change them? Just fitting a round peg into a square holder.
Speaker 7: They did not.
Speaker 6: When I talked to coach Quinn when they drafted him,
Speaker 6: I said, coach, what is what is yours?
Speaker 7: What did you see this kid?
Speaker 4: Ask?
Speaker 6: He's he's a first and second down guy. They I
Speaker 6: want to play him. He looked me right in my
Speaker 6: eyes and say I want to play him on first
Speaker 6: and second down. We need for him to stop to run.
Speaker 5: And then that didn't happen.
Speaker 7: I guess now.
Speaker 6: You know he told everybody how he like bending up
Speaker 6: grown men. In the first second preseason game, we see
Speaker 6: he getting bent up. For the first eight games he
Speaker 6: was getting backed up.
Speaker 5: Wouldn't have lost that weight on his own?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 4: He probably did.
Speaker 6: Uh, he's You would think you would think that they
Speaker 6: keep tabs on that stuff.
Speaker 4: They have a hydration.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he got a way.
Speaker 4: You would think that they would be like, I, big fella,
Speaker 4: like you lost three pounds. We need you to we
Speaker 4: need you to be in this range. You wouldn't think
Speaker 4: that they would just let him go that far down
Speaker 4: and not say unless he couldn't help it.
Speaker 6: You know, no, they weren't working work really.
Speaker 7: I just believe this right here.
Speaker 6: When you are drafted for a purpose, coaches would tell you, hey, man,
Speaker 6: this is what we expect from you, this is what
Speaker 6: we need from you. Now your goals have to line
Speaker 6: up with that. You know. Uh, Uh, I want to
Speaker 6: be a great pass rusher. After you stopped the run,
Speaker 6: you can be anything you want. And uh, everybody that
Speaker 6: they drafted defensive line wise is that type of Durrell Johnson. Uh,
Speaker 6: even the second round pick Marshan Kneeling, he is that
Speaker 6: type of guy. He's a heavy handed guy that can
Speaker 6: force the run. And then you can be you can
Speaker 6: become a maybe not a great pass rusher, but you
Speaker 6: can become better than average. And a lot of guys
Speaker 6: that have come up under coach Zim Tutelish have become
Speaker 6: those type guys. You look back at Minnesota, you know
Speaker 6: a few of those guys were pass rush guys, but
Speaker 6: they all had a you know, the bigger the game,
Speaker 6: the bigger the moment, stop that run.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So is there going to be another learning curve now
Speaker 5: for Masie that he has to go through this.
Speaker 6: No, he shouldn't have to. Man, I mean you a
Speaker 6: big two gap guy. Uh, your strength should be back.
Speaker 6: Uh nah, grab this guy, this guy, and yeah, the
Speaker 6: thing is when you when you're a rookie, unless you
Speaker 6: are that guy. You know, it's a few guys that
Speaker 6: come into the league that got that that above the
Speaker 6: neck and that physical ability. Everybody don't come with that.
Speaker 6: Some of them come with great physical ability, but they
Speaker 6: have to learn that game, have to learn how to
Speaker 6: be a professional. Then some guys come with that that
Speaker 6: that that that makeup like this is what I need
Speaker 6: to do, this is how I need to do. They ordered,
Speaker 6: they got everything in order, you know, and now they
Speaker 6: maybe they have physical ability, have to catch up with
Speaker 6: that with that.
Speaker 7: Order, you know.
Speaker 4: But one of the knocks on him was he wasn't
Speaker 4: quick off the ball.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 7: That's right.
Speaker 4: If you're if you're a gap eater and you stop
Speaker 4: the do you necessarily have to be quick off the ball?
Speaker 6: Sir? You still do because you're reading heads. If this
Speaker 6: guy is trying to read, okay, I'm over the center.
Speaker 6: That's make it simple. I'm over the center. If he
Speaker 6: if he comes to my right, I'm thinking, okay, he's
Speaker 6: trying to get over there to block me so they
Speaker 6: can get over to you right. You know, he's trying
Speaker 6: to get right here. If he can get right here,
Speaker 6: get his head right here in his hand right here.
Speaker 6: That's half the battle. Now, I ain't got one of
Speaker 6: them to deal with. But if you step right there
Speaker 6: and I stuck with you and jam you, and I
Speaker 6: got both hands, you know, so that that first step
Speaker 6: is just as important a pass rush, especially when you
Speaker 6: got a center that can get your head faking you
Speaker 6: think it's going this way and he get a whole
Speaker 6: They do that, bro, I didn't know. Yeah, I used
Speaker 6: to spelling the most fast linebackers and I take that
Speaker 6: head nod.
Speaker 7: They don't run over there.
Speaker 4: I got come on through.
Speaker 7: I used to have a word I used to say.
Speaker 6: It used to be flapper flabberf flabber el. You can
Speaker 6: figure with the US, I just flabber f.
Speaker 5: You well, I mean we already. Mazi was struggling with
Speaker 5: this quick start last year and I was gonna have
Speaker 5: more weight to woke around. Is that gonna be an issue?
Speaker 7: But this kid did it in college.
Speaker 6: I mean granted, pro players are a little bit quicker,
Speaker 6: a little bit smarter, but still you you you read Head,
Speaker 6: you see Head movie, you take head, you know you
Speaker 6: bow bow. You know it's all about want to. That's
Speaker 6: all it is. Defense is about want to.
Speaker 4: Man, been so many innuendos in this first twelve minutes
Speaker 4: that I have chosen not to stop any and say
Speaker 4: Paul's or quality of it out. But if you listen,
Speaker 4: go back and just listen to this first twelve minutes
Speaker 4: of the show. And yeah, okay, the other thing before
Speaker 4: we go to break, since we're talking about Zim, he's
Speaker 4: gonna be be coaching from the sidelines. Quinn was up
Speaker 4: in the booth as a player, does does that matter?
Speaker 7: Do you like it?
Speaker 4: Do you like your coordinator to be?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 6: My position coach, which is all most all offensive linemen
Speaker 6: coaches are on the sideline. I think the more players
Speaker 6: you have control over, the more you need to be
Speaker 6: on the sideline, if you're over the linebackers, especially if
Speaker 6: you're over the defensive line or the offensive line. When
Speaker 6: we come off the field, we're almost in unison of
Speaker 6: what we see. Now, we may have a tweet here
Speaker 6: and treat that our coach you said he would be
Speaker 6: right here, but he's an outside, he's a far outside three.
Speaker 6: You know how we're gonna handle this that we gonna
Speaker 6: block down and I come around or do I still
Speaker 6: try to reach it? You know, and so the coach
Speaker 6: got a big picture. Okay, it's still over. Okay, but
Speaker 6: we got a backside guy that's leaking on the backside,
Speaker 6: that's kind of hanging on the backside. We'll just keep
Speaker 6: everything the same and now we'll bring to it down
Speaker 6: and we'll hit them with this play right here to
Speaker 6: make them line back up how we need them to
Speaker 6: line up. And that's what coach is doing. You know,
Speaker 6: he said, Okay, were running the even defense, and that's
Speaker 6: both guards covered, both tackles covered. But we got a
Speaker 6: guy that's kind of heavy onto the inside. When they
Speaker 6: kind of fake to the back, when they kind of
Speaker 6: strength to the other side, they get this guy on
Speaker 6: the backside kind of leak it. Because you want to
Speaker 6: pull a DeMarcus Ruins and hit that gap. What do
Speaker 6: we do with that? You know what I'm saying. Do
Speaker 6: we block out on this guy and run awaund blocking
Speaker 6: and push the whole out further, or do we just
Speaker 6: let our backside tackle just cut it.
Speaker 4: And it's easier to do that from the sideline.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because you can't. You don't want five guys running
Speaker 6: over Hey, coach and you're trying to call a play
Speaker 6: and they trying to tell you what's going on up
Speaker 6: in there. Now. You'll see every now and then Parsons
Speaker 6: will come to the sideline and grab the headset and
Speaker 6: that's him basically.
Speaker 7: Run this coach, run this free.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 6: But if you're on that sideline, you say, hey, man,
Speaker 6: get away and sit down and let me find out
Speaker 6: what this defense. Now they looking at the pictures, are
Speaker 6: they looking at the tablets? That's even quicker now, and
Speaker 6: they say, Okay, you need to get here, Nate, you
Speaker 6: need to get here, to marrows lawns. You need to
Speaker 6: get here, and he can line them up and he
Speaker 6: can have his board, he can he can work magic
Speaker 6: from that sideline.
Speaker 5: Or communication.
Speaker 6: Yeah, communication easier because now you act you you're always
Speaker 6: asking guys to get to the sideline quick. When your coach,
Speaker 6: your your head coach, well Devens, a coordinator is sitting
Speaker 6: there on the sideline, he's gonna be.
Speaker 7: Get get over and get your water. He'll be on it,
Speaker 7: you know, get your water, get here.
Speaker 6: Get sit down so we can get this thing done
Speaker 6: and get you lined up.
Speaker 7: You know.
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Speaker 4: We need to we need to make this the People
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Speaker 4: But it's hard to do when we're on once a week.
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Speaker 6: Derek Derrek Eagleton is our managing guy. He manages all
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Speaker 6: Beam is getting more power by the day.
Speaker 12: But but but uh, a few people will call in
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Speaker 5: His chicken talk?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's talking about the People show. Oh yeah, the people.
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Speaker 6: makes it make him look good to the bosses.
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Speaker 4: Chris, won't you get on that?
Speaker 13: Hey, you just let me know up. No, He's like, no,
Speaker 13: it's all good. We have any time about today. Don't
Speaker 13: do it on Fridays. It's all good.
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Speaker 6: Chris got in the chair and there, Chris, let me
Speaker 6: ask you this, Yes, sir, sir, So do you think
Speaker 6: Dak gonna walk in and said, Jerry, I need to
Speaker 6: start this negotiation at two hundred million dollars?
Speaker 5: No, No is getting too crow.
Speaker 6: No, I think I'm just saying start at two hundred
Speaker 6: million dollars.
Speaker 4: I think his agent probably agent probably walks on the
Speaker 4: text and Steven and Todd and said, oh, you know,
Speaker 4: Miley face.
Speaker 7: You know Chris got the inside school.
Speaker 6: You know, Chris had the Netflix inside schoop, he had
Speaker 6: the Jimmy inside. So you know, Chris is on the
Speaker 6: inside of everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's let's talk about this like my job though, too.
Speaker 7: Want to schedule?
Speaker 4: First schedule first, there's a lot to get to and
Speaker 4: then we'll get to that.
Speaker 7: Okay, well, I love where.
Speaker 4: Your head's at. Yeah, see, don't do it.
Speaker 7: We're not doing I love you. So there's a joke.
Speaker 4: Great article on dallascowboys dot com by Patrick Walker. I
Speaker 4: love the way that he did this. He said notable
Speaker 4: schedule quirks just right off the jump. He did a
Speaker 4: couple of quick two paragraphs and then broke it down
Speaker 4: by kind of the little nuances of the schedule. And
Speaker 4: then I'll read these out to you and then you
Speaker 4: guys tell me what jumped out to you. First off,
Speaker 4: this isn't on Patrick's this is preseason, so nobody really cares.
Speaker 4: But you got the lows and lost preseason Los Angeles Rams,
Speaker 4: Las Vegas Raiders, Los Angeles Chargers away, away and home
Speaker 4: in the preseason. So go stay on the West Coast,
Speaker 4: go to training camp, catch a couple of games, come
Speaker 4: back here real, take the month off. There you go,
Speaker 4: bam bam bam. So notable schedule quirks according to Patrick Walker,
Speaker 4: nine home games, six primetime games back to back primetime
Speaker 4: in weeks four and five. No three home games stand,
Speaker 4: no three game road trip coast to coast travel week
Speaker 4: eight and nine, that's kind of a big deal. Many
Speaker 4: bye week after Thanksgiving, and in six of the final
Speaker 4: nine games or home games. So those were his his
Speaker 4: main points. Is there anything Kurt that jumped out at you.
Speaker 5: I think that that back half of the schedule is
Speaker 5: a big help for the Cowboys, Like he said, six
Speaker 5: of the final nine, actually four of the final six
Speaker 5: are also at home. Yeah, And so of course, the
Speaker 5: the other shoe dropping is that they have a lot
Speaker 5: of road games in the beginning.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 4: And if you look at that back half, that's probably
Speaker 4: the easiest stretch of your schedules. So if you can
Speaker 4: get it going, then you could be rolling going into
Speaker 4: the playoffs.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But can they State's already covering up over Yeah?
Speaker 5: Can you? Can they survive the you know your your
Speaker 5: young rookie lineman.
Speaker 4: I guess why are y'all it going?
Speaker 7: This land mine?
Speaker 5: I know the middle of the lineup week five through
Speaker 5: about you know.
Speaker 6: From uh A week one it's like one, two, three, four, five.
Speaker 7: The landmine, Lord, it's seven. If we have a team
Speaker 7: by the time we get to that.
Speaker 4: And these are some we will be lucky. And you're
Speaker 4: talking about physical teams. Cleveland is gonna beat you up.
Speaker 4: New Orleans is gonna beat you up. Baltimore surely gonna Beatrick.
Speaker 4: Henry is gonna run.
Speaker 6: He's like I can see him running over before the
Speaker 6: game and hugging mister Jones.
Speaker 7: And Stevens said, man, I'm gonna.
Speaker 4: Shure y'all in the past, you should have I bought
Speaker 4: a house there. I didn't even call. Then you got
Speaker 4: the Giants, which same time and a Thursday, let me
Speaker 4: say that, Pittsburgh. And then you got another maybe the
Speaker 4: most physical team in the league right now, Detroit. As
Speaker 4: good as you get a buyer the season.
Speaker 6: Then you go to San Francisco, Jami, get your get
Speaker 6: your guys ready. What we need to do is not
Speaker 6: play none of our guys against the Los Angeles charges,
Speaker 6: none of them. Just have everybody get you know, putting
Speaker 6: them in the crowd chamber massages. This the regular season
Speaker 6: is only for the rookies. I mean, the season is
Speaker 6: only for the rookies. You wouldn't even play any Oh
Speaker 6: my god, because when Bruh Miles Garrett, have y'all seen
Speaker 6: this guy?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, have y'all have you seen how how physically
Speaker 4: one He looks like he's built like Aaron Tyrone, but about.
Speaker 7: Seven inches in Tyrone Smith is the same guy.
Speaker 4: Well, have you seen Miles Garrett on the basketball court?
Speaker 6: No, No, I know he's I know he's elite. I
Speaker 6: know he's tyrann is a The way they look at
Speaker 6: You're right, they look the same physical specimens.
Speaker 4: But the way he moves is unique. Oak.
Speaker 7: Yeah, y'all want to know what a So what you
Speaker 7: is that?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 5: I put, I guess, are you glad to get those
Speaker 5: tough games out of the way early? Would you rather
Speaker 5: have it switch or.
Speaker 4: Would you rather ramp up? Yeah, especially with two probably
Speaker 4: rookie offensive linemen right centers probably going to be at
Speaker 4: some point starting and then you're and the guidance is
Speaker 4: going to be starting to just throw them in the
Speaker 4: fires count so that.
Speaker 6: We got six six games, six games right, one, two, three,
Speaker 6: four or five six, seven games?
Speaker 7: We have to be four and three. That's how physical
Speaker 7: this is.
Speaker 6: And we don't know how good Atlanta's going to be
Speaker 6: with Kirk Cousins because this guy streaky.
Speaker 7: He could catch you on fire, you know, at the
Speaker 7: right time.
Speaker 6: But I'm telling you how to seven games we have
Speaker 6: to be four and three.
Speaker 5: I mean, it doesn't get real easy after that, because
Speaker 5: in your home against the Eagles and Texans were both
Speaker 5: playoff teams last year. And then at Washington, we don't
Speaker 5: know what they're going to be.
Speaker 6: Like, Okay, Houston is coming to us, right, yeah, okay,
Speaker 6: you're good. Philadelphia's coming to us. That's good. The Washington Commanders,
Speaker 6: you don't know how good. We just got to play
Speaker 6: it by ear and they got the young kid from
Speaker 6: l s U. I'm hoping he don't catch on fire
Speaker 6: by then.
Speaker 5: The New York Giants, it's home Thanksgiving should be good there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, we got to be four and three. We
Speaker 6: have to be four and three. You cannot pass up
Speaker 6: San Francisco and going and go to Atlanta and not be.
Speaker 4: You know, you know what games go ahead, go ahead?
Speaker 5: Well of those first seven, which four are you winning?
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. Somewhere. You gotta beat New Orleans,
Speaker 6: New orlenge to beat the Giants. You gotta beat the
Speaker 6: Steelers even though you're going there, because Detroit ain't giving
Speaker 6: it up no more. Detroit is not. I'm telling you,
Speaker 6: when Detroit come here, they ain't finna take these chances.
Speaker 6: They took last year. If they coach do that, I
Speaker 6: don't be like, thank you coaching. You ain't got smart
Speaker 6: over the year.
Speaker 4: You got to steal one somewhere.
Speaker 6: You got to and I don't know where you can
Speaker 6: steal it at because the Fordy Niners is in our head.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe at Cleveland you might be able to steal
Speaker 4: that one first.
Speaker 5: At least have the Ravens at home.
Speaker 4: I would I would, I would say if you go
Speaker 4: steal one, that's the one you steal. I don't Ravens
Speaker 4: are gonna be tough. I think you can beat New Orleans,
Speaker 4: you can beat the Giants. I think you can beat
Speaker 4: the Steelers. I don't Detroit's gonna be really tough. And
Speaker 4: San Fran I unless they just have something that we
Speaker 4: don't know that they have this year right right. San
Speaker 4: Fran owns you right now, So that's tough. You know
Speaker 4: what the most interesting game is? To me? I'm glad
Speaker 4: y'all asked that question.
Speaker 5: Tell us.
Speaker 4: I think that Houston games from a big picture perspective.
Speaker 4: I know it's not conference, I know it doesn't really
Speaker 4: mean anything, but Houston has always been the Cowboys little brother,
Speaker 4: except when they beat them. What was the first time
Speaker 4: they ever played or whatever, But Dallas has everybody has
Speaker 4: thought of the Cowboys as the brand in Texas. Right.
Speaker 4: You got a young Houston team that's got some superstars
Speaker 4: on it, that's up and coming, that everybody's excited about.
Speaker 4: Houston's actually talking trash for once outside of baseball. I
Speaker 4: think that's a big game from a from a pride perspective,
Speaker 4: from a Cowboy fan perspective, from a national perspective, because
Speaker 4: if they if Houston wins that game, you I think,
Speaker 4: for the first time, maybe ever, you start hearing Cowboys
Speaker 4: not only are they not America's team, they're not even
Speaker 4: Texas's team anymore. And I think that that starts a
Speaker 4: narrative that you've never had to deal with around here.
Speaker 4: And I think it's a real possibility they can win
Speaker 4: that game, as to where before it was just like
Speaker 4: even if the Texans win, it's just it's not that
Speaker 4: big of a deal because the Cowboys are Texas's team,
Speaker 4: right for sure. I think if they win that game,
Speaker 4: you know, we're you could say, we're kind of you know,
Speaker 4: we're not moving forward, We're kind of stagnant right now.
Speaker 4: Now you get in the season, things may change and
Speaker 4: you know, but you missed on.
Speaker 6: The come up brother, You missing the main reason. You
Speaker 6: did not name the main reason why they can beat us.
Speaker 7: Why they got a quarterback.
Speaker 6: Dude, he's something else. But this dude is the reason
Speaker 6: they'll win that game. If they win that game, it's
Speaker 6: gonna be And that's that's another point.
Speaker 4: They have a quarterback that's locked in for several years,
Speaker 4: and we have one that we have no idea if
Speaker 4: he's the future here or not, or you know, if
Speaker 4: he can get you through that big game. So that
Speaker 4: that's another There's so many storylines in that game that
Speaker 4: I mean, it doesn't mean a lot because it's out
Speaker 4: of the division, out of the conference and everything, but
Speaker 4: I just to me, that's really really really interesting.
Speaker 5: I just that'd be fun.
Speaker 4: That'll be a fun seven games, so interesting. The Browns
Speaker 4: have the toughest strength of schedule in the league at
Speaker 4: point five four to seven percent winning percentage, which that's
Speaker 4: kind of unfair the Browns, I guess because they're in
Speaker 4: that division, they got to play all those teams twice.
Speaker 4: That's probably why they're the toughest. Cowboys are tied for
Speaker 4: twelfth with the Rams, Jets and forty nine.
Speaker 5: I thought they'd be higher up.
Speaker 4: I thought they had a tougher the Cowboys. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: did too.
Speaker 6: They just ain't given out. They ain't given a conferences,
Speaker 6: they ain't given a division.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you hear that they're twelve, so they're you know,
Speaker 4: almost middle of the pack. But then you look at
Speaker 4: it on paper and you're like, how, like what's everybody
Speaker 4: they play? But it comes down to what you said.
Speaker 4: They're not giving a lot of they're not giving a
Speaker 4: lot of collideration. Eagles, the Commanders and the Giants. Yes,
Speaker 4: it's all out of conference, which we'll see.
Speaker 6: And they looked at us and so we did nothing
Speaker 6: doing free agency.
Speaker 5: Yep, when they played the NFC South, which is was
Speaker 5: it kind of a down year for them last year.
Speaker 5: So you're assuming they're same.
Speaker 4: Any other gotcha's or anything else that surprised your stands
Speaker 4: out either one of you guys.
Speaker 7: Yeah, what's that? The first game?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well I was surprised that we had so many
Speaker 5: home games in the back half, like kind of mentioned, so.
Speaker 6: You know they go out to heel up.
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is general. They look at him.
Speaker 6: Man, y'all got us on this first half y'all better
Speaker 6: makes you We get a chance to heal up in
Speaker 6: the second half and the and the.
Speaker 4: Bye week is a little early. Does that hurt you well?
Speaker 6: After that, land mind they need.
Speaker 5: So yeah, a game on the twenty ninth at Philly,
Speaker 5: that's that could be could be a huge one.
Speaker 4: Yep, Chris, anything anything jump out at you, anything you
Speaker 4: like or don't like about it.
Speaker 13: From my standpoint, it's only a personal thing. There's really
Speaker 13: only one cold weather game if you really look at it,
Speaker 13: at Philly at Philly in December. I mean, Carolina could
Speaker 13: get little cold, maybe rainy.
Speaker 4: Maybe at Washington November late November. Probably not about that.
Speaker 13: So we don't have a Thursday night game after Thanksgiving,
Speaker 13: which we have had in the past, Like I think
Speaker 13: it's like four the last like three of the last
Speaker 13: four years we've had that Thursday night game after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 13: It's a Monday night game, so we actually get an
Speaker 13: extra day actually, so you Yeah, two Monday nights is
Speaker 13: another thing. That's first time in a while.
Speaker 5: So I like the.
Speaker 13: Back half of the season because usually that's when you're
Speaker 13: a little beat up and you've got what six of
Speaker 13: six of nine at home.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So that's nice.
Speaker 4: And your back half is starts with let's say Philly
Speaker 4: at home, Houston at home, at Washington, New York at home,
Speaker 4: since he at home, since he's gonna be tough. If
Speaker 4: Burrows stays healthy at Carolina, Tampa at home, at Philly,
Speaker 4: and then Washington at home, none of those, none of
Speaker 4: those scare me, you know, since he'll be.
Speaker 7: The first seven games, we're gonna find out what ski you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you talk about it could be bad.
Speaker 4: It could be bad bad this year in the beginning.
Speaker 5: We talked in the past, like Christmas saying, you know,
Speaker 5: we'd have that Thursday game after Thanksgiving, so we'd be
Speaker 5: playing like twelve games and or twelve three games and
Speaker 5: like twelve I don't know what anyway, but you look
Speaker 5: on the other on the front end of Thanksgiving, I mean,
Speaker 5: they're at Monday night at Houston and it's a quick
Speaker 5: turnaround a Sunday at Washington, and then you got to
Speaker 5: come back home that Thursday. So it's that little run
Speaker 5: there is. It's we say, yeah, they're missing the back
Speaker 5: end Thursday after Thanksgiving, but the two games before Thanksgiving
Speaker 5: aren't any picnic either.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just got it, like Nate said, you you
Speaker 4: have to survive. You have to be within one or
Speaker 4: one and a half or two games of the division
Speaker 4: into the bye week. You can't you know, you can't be. No,
Speaker 4: you can't be three games out going into the bye week.
Speaker 4: You just got to hang in.
Speaker 6: It's going to be too hard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just gotta you gotta hang in and cross
Speaker 4: your fingers and hopefully because I mean at Cleveland, New Orleans.
Speaker 4: You got them at home, Baltimore, the Giants, Pittsburgh, Detroit.
Speaker 4: That's tough, man, that's tough. Pittsburgh on the road, that's
Speaker 4: that's not that's not.
Speaker 5: Want to know the Eagles first seven games.
Speaker 4: Yes, I would love to know the Eagles first seven.
Speaker 5: Home against the Packers. They opened up, and they're home
Speaker 5: against the Falcons.
Speaker 13: The Packers game, I wouldn't say, a home game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. So they got that thing. And then
Speaker 5: home against Atlanta at the Saints, at the Buccaneers bye week,
Speaker 5: and home against Cleveland at the Giants.
Speaker 4: So they're, oh, they got it pretty Yeah.
Speaker 5: The start of their schedule is a little easier. So yeah,
Speaker 5: gotta keep pace, Gotta.
Speaker 4: Keep pace, all right, Let's keep pace and take our
Speaker 4: last break. When we come back, we'll talk about the
Speaker 4: price of doing business and running back by committee. We
Speaker 4: come back, hang out with the boys.
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Speaker 4: You've been saying it for three weeks. It's okay. I
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Speaker 4: talk about you wanted to talk about Dak. Let's talk
Speaker 4: about your boy Zeke first. McCarthy said they'll use running
Speaker 4: back by committee. No players really expected to get two
Speaker 4: hundred touches this year. Zeke's probably going to be around
Speaker 4: the ten to fifteen touch range, which I think that's
Speaker 4: a good idea. I am interested to see how they
Speaker 4: distribute the rest of the touches because I don't know
Speaker 4: if you have a My worry this year running back
Speaker 4: is you don't have a home run hitter. You don't
Speaker 4: have anybody that, once they get to that second level,
Speaker 4: scares you to break a thirty forty yarder.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: I think your longest run from scrimmage might be fifteen
Speaker 4: to twenty yards and that's only going to happen a
Speaker 4: couple of times this year.
Speaker 5: That's like we talked about last year. It's like, does
Speaker 5: anybody scare? Another defense? Is the defense opponents?
Speaker 4: Will you ever see scared? Will you ever see eight
Speaker 4: in the box? Right?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 4: I don't know, So I think that sounds good. Ten
Speaker 4: to fifteen touches for Zeke? What you think, Nate, that's
Speaker 4: your guy.
Speaker 6: I tried to tell my brother Jesse, what three weeks
Speaker 6: ago coach has been in this in this area before
Speaker 6: backs by committee? And uh, he started in Green Bay.
Speaker 6: He's one of the few guys back twenty years ago
Speaker 6: I was doing this. So Zeke is okay with that.
Speaker 6: He know he's a little bit older. He's gonna be
Speaker 6: some games where he may touch it a little bit
Speaker 6: more a little bit less, but Coach'll figured it out.
Speaker 6: And if we need to go get a home run, guy,
Speaker 6: I think we can go get one.
Speaker 5: But man, who's out there though?
Speaker 6: You never know, bro, And then another thing, it's gonna
Speaker 6: it's gonna take some time for our offensive line to jail,
Speaker 6: so especially with this meat grind of a schedule. So
Speaker 6: we'll see, you know. I just believe that h give
Speaker 6: the Cowboys a chance. I think Coachal Cards can figure
Speaker 6: it out. I really do, as long as be havef
Speaker 6: CD lamb, I'm okay, yeah.
Speaker 4: For this year, for this year, let's talk about let's
Speaker 4: talk about contracts. So CD's up what this year? Next year?
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, he can do his fifth year. They're trying
Speaker 5: to extend him and he's set out, you know, the
Speaker 5: voluntary workouts. He'll probably set out the voluntary OTAs. So
Speaker 5: they're trying to work out an extension.
Speaker 4: And then Micah, they picked up the fifty year option
Speaker 4: on him.
Speaker 5: Right yeah, if he'll he'll be going through this next
Speaker 5: year unless he pulls his He can try to push
Speaker 5: it this year, but I don't think he can.
Speaker 4: And then you got Dak that's up now this year
Speaker 4: and the price. It seems like it doesn't seem like
Speaker 4: the longer you wait, every year the positions go up,
Speaker 4: they never they never stop and never go back right.
Speaker 4: So by not signing these guys early, which they used
Speaker 4: to do that quite a bit, and it seems like
Speaker 4: that's kind of stopped the last few years. You're letting
Speaker 4: them all get to the end of their deals. And
Speaker 4: I get it if you want to see how they're
Speaker 4: playing or how they're doing, but it it just seems
Speaker 4: like they should try to lock these guys like. It
Speaker 4: feels like and we it always feels like everybody's doing
Speaker 4: it better than we're doing it, right because it's your team,
Speaker 4: But it feels like you look at the Eagles, you
Speaker 4: look at other other teams, it feels like they're always
Speaker 4: locking these guys up in their third year or they're
Speaker 4: you know, getting them in a long term deal early
Speaker 4: so they get them at a better price. So Jared
Speaker 4: Goff signed for what was what was his deal.
Speaker 5: Four years, two hundred and twelve million, with like one
Speaker 5: hundred and seventy million guaranteed.
Speaker 4: And guaranteed money's big man, like.
Speaker 5: Fifty three million a year.
Speaker 4: So I would put I would put Dak in I
Speaker 4: would put Dak above Jared Goff as far as talent,
Speaker 4: regular season talent, right winning games, decision make playoffs, you
Speaker 4: know that. I think that's probably the only the only
Speaker 4: knock on Dak and the only reason why he hasn't
Speaker 4: been signed to a long term deal is because the
Speaker 4: playoff success hasn't been there. Right, That's the only reason
Speaker 4: why this is even an issue or why he's even
Speaker 4: at the bargaining table right now, because if you would
Speaker 4: have won a few playoff games, you would have locked
Speaker 4: him up two years ago. Right, So, regardless of what
Speaker 4: you think about Dak, regardless if you want him here
Speaker 4: or not, by Jared Goff signing that deal, Dak's price
Speaker 4: just went up again and it's going to continue to
Speaker 4: go up as new guys get signed. So what are
Speaker 4: we doing, Like, are we gonna let you know, are
Speaker 4: we gonna let this guy walk, or we were gonna
Speaker 4: lock him up, or we let him play out this year?
Speaker 4: Because I'm afraid if you let him play out this year, like,
Speaker 4: I don't know if you can get him back because
Speaker 4: somebody's gonna the way they're spending money this year, which
Speaker 4: is none somebody's gonna pay him big money, no matter
Speaker 4: what you think about him. Look at Kirk Cousins, and
Speaker 4: I would say Dak is better than Kirk Cousins, right,
Speaker 4: or you know, as Nate says, they're the same, the
Speaker 4: same guy, their brothers, right. But like, he's going to
Speaker 4: get paid a lot of money if he hits, if
Speaker 4: he even sniffs free agency, And if i'm him, I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm good with that. I'm good. Best case scenario, I
Speaker 4: stay here and I'm comfortable here. I have a house here,
Speaker 4: I have a family here. I'm good. Worst case scenario,
Speaker 4: I get paid, I go play seven eight more years
Speaker 4: and then I can always come back. So what's y'all's
Speaker 4: opinion on what's going on with the quarterback man?
Speaker 5: That's for sure. I mean, you look at even if
Speaker 5: he signs else for next year, I think he's got
Speaker 5: like a forty million dollar cap hit here. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's still handcuffing you. So I don't I think they're
Speaker 5: in a position where they have to get a deal done,
Speaker 5: and they've said Stephen says that it's a priority. They
Speaker 5: want to get it done. I think Dak wants to stay,
Speaker 5: So I don't know, it's just the agents, you know,
Speaker 5: they all I think the same agents. You know, same guys.
Speaker 5: I'll work together or whatever. You know. So, I don't know,
Speaker 5: I don't know what the hold up is. I'm sure
Speaker 5: we should get it done, get it out of the way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it takes I mean it takes two to make
Speaker 4: a contract.
Speaker 11: True.
Speaker 4: I mean it's they They may be way over here
Speaker 4: and going, no, our guy needs this much. And you know,
Speaker 4: the cowboys are a little more realistic about the market.
Speaker 5: And you got to think he's asking for at least
Speaker 5: sixty a year.
Speaker 4: Wow, just what four years ago he could.
Speaker 5: Have had him with twenty five? Yeah, they said, no.
Speaker 4: Wow, what do you think that you're being really quiet?
Speaker 5: Is it time to go with the young quarterbacks and
Speaker 5: build around him instead of hoping your quarterback and carry him.
Speaker 6: I don't you know, I said a couple of weeks ago, man,
Speaker 6: uh Dak Dak is who he is, and I think
Speaker 6: the better talent he has around him, the better he is.
Speaker 7: And that's just the bottom line. You know, I'm not
Speaker 7: gonna move off that.
Speaker 6: So if you have Cede Lamb, this offensive line can
Speaker 6: jail and give him a good running game. So they
Speaker 6: can have us sixty forty either fifty five forty five
Speaker 6: run past ratio or pass run ratio. I think it
Speaker 6: leaves Dak up a lot. And then you just make
Speaker 6: your decision from that point.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 6: But if you if you're saying, Okay, Dak is our guy,
Speaker 6: he can told us through Hello, how Water, you got
Speaker 6: to rethink that hell of how Water is the play
Speaker 6: is the playoffs, and then he hasn't gotten us through that.
Speaker 6: So you have to really sit down and have that
Speaker 6: conversation with your ownership, you know, far as the coach
Speaker 6: miss you know, Will McLay and mister Jones and Stephen Jones.
Speaker 6: You have to have that conversation, is this true of
Speaker 6: this guy? Is he is he our future? Or do
Speaker 6: we are we satisfied with ten eleven, twelve, maybe twelve
Speaker 6: wins in the regular season and then just it's a
Speaker 6: toss up during the playoffs.
Speaker 7: You know, you got to make that decision.
Speaker 4: Yep, that's interests. I think that's where they're at.
Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, you know, what do we do?
Speaker 4: The scary part is if he's not here? What then?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Who's I mean? Study you win season?
Speaker 7: You might be looking at the rebuilding, right you rebuilding.
Speaker 4: You got a draft, right, yeah, you you.
Speaker 7: You you rebuilding. You've been fortunate.
Speaker 6: You've been fortunate to have Tony Romo now Dak h.
Speaker 4: You know, the unknown is scarier. Yeah, because even if
Speaker 4: you draft, that's you know, fifty to fifty and that's
Speaker 4: if you can move up high in the first round,
Speaker 4: you know, and lower you get, the less those odds are, like,
Speaker 4: you know, here we go again. We were all, you know,
Speaker 4: a lot of us were fans winning.
Speaker 5: I saw something that was like in Jerry Jones is
Speaker 5: thirty was it three years or whatever of ownership thirty
Speaker 5: more and whatever it is. He's only had like five
Speaker 5: seasons with bad quarterbacks in early two thousands when you
Speaker 5: went from Akman and you had Romo and Dak and
Speaker 5: there's a little yeah, four or five years stretch in between.
Speaker 5: See and Chad Hutchinson's We've been real fortunate.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yes, people forget really quick. Yeah, people forget really quick.
Speaker 4: What that's like, I mean, at least now you have hope.
Speaker 4: You have a chance every game, you have a chance.
Speaker 4: There were some years where you had no chance and
Speaker 4: it was just like okay, at least this year. You
Speaker 4: don't really get pissed off to the playoffs, right uswo
Speaker 4: you're pissed off after week three? Yeah, you're like, ah,
Speaker 4: here we go again, you know. And I don't think
Speaker 4: they want to go down that road. So we'll see.
Speaker 4: It's going to be interesting, so it should be a
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Speaker 6: got this sludge Hamma just beating his state.
Speaker 7: Man beating it.
Speaker 4: I thought you say something.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I ain't beating on that, bro.
Speaker 4: Kurt Good said, Jesse, get back in here, man, We
Speaker 4: miss it. Jesse, it'll be back, said to be back
Speaker 4: next week. Nate, glad you're doing good moving around good. Chris,
Speaker 4: thanks for keeping us on the air. Jazz, thanks for
Speaker 4: keeping Chris company. What's my man's name? Josh, thanks for
Speaker 4: keeping us up on all the social channels and podcast networks.
Speaker 4: We will be back next week. A CMS tonight check
Speaker 4: them out live from the Star. Sure, anybody going.
Speaker 6: No, no, what's the ACMs Academy of Country Music?
Speaker 7: Okay?
Speaker 6: Yeah, well I ain't a country like guys, so I'm sorry.
Speaker 6: Y'all have to enjoy yourself. It's great it's whatever Missus
Speaker 6: Jones connect with. It is great.
Speaker 4: I may watch it on TV. Yeah, but that would
Speaker 4: be about it. So we we'll be back next Thursday.
Speaker 4: Anything going on this week between now and then next week,
Speaker 4: football football on the football field. Let's go. We'll be
Speaker 4: back next week. We'll see you then.
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