1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: Welcome to j dot Ill, a production of I Heart Radio. Hello, Hello, everyone, 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: welcome to j dot Ill the Podcast. I am here 3 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: with my sister friends like is st Clair, who's looking 4 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: lovely in pink. Yes, you like my sports bra It's lovely. 5 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: Thank you as a nightgown and age a Graydon Dandler. Hello, 6 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: I'm here at present and when you're little use a present. 7 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: Here looks naked. This is a perfect zoom might love it. Yeah, 8 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm appreciating the tan lines, ma'am. Yeah, honey, I got 9 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: a little brown and the sun's alling. Yeah, I'm very 10 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: excited about it. You've been living life. I've been living 11 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of life, yes, and actually know a 12 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: lot of life because you know as well as I 13 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: know that us artists now a lot of people have 14 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: been cooped up in the house, but we we uh 15 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: have had nowhere to go. People were calling me, as 16 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: you what you're doing. I'm doing nothing because there's nowhere 17 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: for me to go. So yeah, I mean, in the 18 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: last few weeks, the change between what it was like 19 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: for the past year and a half until now, it's 20 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: like a flood of work. And so I've gone from 21 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: having zero to do to all the things to do, darling, 22 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:38,279 Speaker 1: which is a blessing and a wonderful thing. But you know, again, 23 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: this year has been very trying, particularly for me, and 24 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: I have been shocked to see, you know, how difficult 25 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: it's been. I feel like for artists to be honest 26 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: about that journey, and not just during COVID, but the 27 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: overall journey of being an artist, because so much of 28 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: the work we do is about image, is about what 29 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: we portray out to the world, and sometimes I feel 30 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: like that desire to look and appear booked and blessed, 31 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 1: you know, as they say, you know, keeps us from 32 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: being you know, authentic with people, and and and and 33 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: feeds that that desire and people to other us and 34 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: make us feel like we're just some sort of non 35 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: humans or like everything is always perfect, or we have 36 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 1: all this money or x Y and Z. I saw 37 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: a couple of things during COVID. Some people were really like, 38 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm sitting in the house and I'm in the 39 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: house board, you know, and they were just being real 40 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: authentic with that. And some people were getting dressed up 41 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: every day and on Instagram doing photo shoots on almost 42 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: like you know, three or four times a week trying 43 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: to figure it out. I guess it's hard to um. 44 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: You know, when you're accustomed to working, when you're not working, 45 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to to sit down. You know 46 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: a lot of people could not sit down. But a 47 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: lot of people don't know if they were allowed to 48 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: sit down and it was supposed to be sitting down. 49 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: That's the confusion part, right, Like I am opposed to 50 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: be like being really creative because we got this time. 51 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: Am I supposed to be? Am? I supposed to get 52 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: to sleep that I haven't had in some idears, you know. 53 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: But then at the same time, I'm noticing, like I 54 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: ordered a refrigerator, right, I ordered this refrigerator three three 55 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: months ago, and I'm still I still have like sixteen 56 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: weeks left before I get the refrigerator. Because the people 57 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: that work in the factory making these fine refrigerators are 58 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: not They're they're quitting. Yeah, they're quitting. People do not 59 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: want to work because they've had an opportunity not to 60 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: work and they found out what life can feel like 61 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: and they figured out how to live minimally as well, 62 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: and they're not coming to work. People are quitting left 63 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: and right. They're like I'll just you know, deal with 64 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: my stimulus check, and they're not in the rush to 65 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: come back to some of those uh some of those 66 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: uh what do you call it conditions that's going on 67 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: in a lot of industries, going on in the airport 68 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: in the airport industry as well. Like they're saying that, 69 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, they hiring TSA because ts A ain't coming 70 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: to work like they was before. It's man, So now 71 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: we're you know, we're in this country where everything was 72 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: based off of progress and creating, um some kind of 73 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: products of commercial life society where everything is basically commercial 74 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 1: to sell this, that or the other, and now what 75 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: people are not really interested in the book and blessed 76 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: portion of the show. Yeah, I mean, I think a 77 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: lot of it has to do with the fact that 78 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: we bought into um well, I'll put it this way. 79 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: You know, capitalism is a really powerful drug. And you know, 80 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: if you don't feel like you're at the helm of 81 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: that ship, like you know, obviously there's there's a little 82 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: bit of a you know, a big shine on being 83 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, you know, and and that part of the deal. 84 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: But unless that's you know, the picture that you're trying 85 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: to paint. People are just not interested in feeding the 86 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: beast anymore. Yeah, but the gag, the gag is if 87 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: you're working for yourself, there's also a bit of a 88 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: grind culture, you know, rejection that has to happen too, 89 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: because the whole how do I appear? Because people don't 90 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: think that entrepreneurship is a real job. You don't think 91 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: that artistry is a real job. So you have to 92 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: appear like you're working all the time for people to 93 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: think you actually working and that there's value to the 94 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: work that you do. And I think there's been a 95 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: big pushback on that, which I'm actually pretty thrilled about, 96 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: because you know, I don't care. I don't care my work. 97 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: I got six kids. I bees at work and what's 98 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: going on. I'm at work when my eyes open work, Yeah, 99 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: I don't noticed that. Have a girlfriend who um, I 100 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: don't think she she's ever really set down in her life, 101 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think she has. All she does 102 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: is work. She's an artist, and she actually lives a 103 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,559 Speaker 1: couple of doors away from me, and I swear I'm 104 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: taking a walk and she's hopping, you know, get in 105 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: the car to go catch a flight. You know I'm 106 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: bringing in my groceries and she's just coming back from 107 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: a gig like she stays working. Yo. Can I say 108 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: to even shout out to some of those people who 109 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: even when you do go on vacation, you do take 110 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: a break, you take all your work with you. I 111 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: know that's a big addition of mine. Like I don't 112 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 1: I don't remember the last time I've been some places, 113 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: some beautiful places, but I'm usually taking a microphone with me. 114 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: And it's funny because I really want to give some 115 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: love and credits to are now former producer Eaves who 116 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: kind of like remix my mind on the sense of 117 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: like working for a living in your spirit, you know 118 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: what I mean, and how much you need to give 119 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: yourself a break. And you know we about frolick and 120 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: all the time, but I think sometimes you just you know, 121 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: you you we do this for a living, so you 122 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: forget the lesson that you've learned in your work. And 123 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: I think some of that, you know, it's it's different 124 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: breakdowns as to why people don't feel like working anymore. 125 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like there's maybe at least 126 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: three or four categories as to why maybe you like 127 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: your STEMI maybe you did it it or whatever. But 128 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: one of those breakdowns I feel like, is how much 129 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: of your spirit and yourself you are giving to working 130 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: and what is that work about and what is it 131 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: doing truly for your spirit and for others? I don't know? Yeah, 132 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: And then what what is the body capable of? Because 133 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: this past weekend, Yeah, because this past weekend, Fatina and 134 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: I were in Chicago, and do we have to fly 135 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: back from Chicago to the to New Jersey for one 136 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: day and then fly back to Chicago the very next morning. 137 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: And so we're time our early morning flights, late night working, 138 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: and then back on an early morning flight them back 139 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: home into the thick of the family situations. And it's 140 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: like that used to be my life on a constant 141 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: and in my twenties and my thirties, and I'm forty 142 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: two now, and I ain't gonna lie to you. After 143 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: one weekend back to work in the ways that I 144 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: used to work. So I've been back to work for 145 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: for a couple of months now, but this this was 146 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: the first time that it was starting to look like 147 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: it used to. And I came home and was like, 148 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if my body can do this anymore? 149 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: And you know, for Tea, I have a little joke 150 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: you know at the end of the video with Snoop 151 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: and Dr Dreda Do Do Do Do Do Yeah next 152 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: episode where he's like stumbling into the house and what 153 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: looks like four o'clock in the morning at the party 154 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: and all night. But see and I, you know, have 155 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: a joke sometimes when we're coming home from a gig 156 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: and we feel like Sloop and we'll just both God 157 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, do I want to be 158 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: fifties two years old doing the Snoop walk into the house. 159 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: But I'm living a dream, I'm booked, I'm blast, I'm 160 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: doing my thing. I'm boring my path. They're like, girl, 161 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: and I don't want to say this, And I know 162 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: there's gonna be some people listening who are just like, well, 163 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: at least you're doing what you love. And I do 164 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: know that. I do know that. But it's my body 165 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: in the place where I am in this part of 166 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: my life. Am I doing myself justice? Like, like Likeiah said, 167 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: have I learned the lessons from these conversations that we've 168 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: been having. We'll be back after the break. One of 169 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: the things that I've gotten out of athletes. You know, 170 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: talking to athletes is the preparation that it takes. Are 171 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: people who run marathons, you know, there's you don't just 172 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: jump up from you know, a pandemic after doing nothing 173 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: and eating on everything that you want and then all 174 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: of a sudden you jump up and then you're on 175 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: somebody's stage and you know you're you're working sixteen, you know, 176 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: seventeen hours or whatever the case may be, on somebody set. 177 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: Either you don't do those things. You have to prepare 178 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: to to work, period. No matter who you are, you 179 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: don't just jump up and run a marathon. You you know, 180 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: unless you're really young. If you're young, then then that 181 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: those kind of things happen. But it doesn't, it doesn't 182 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: necessarily happen for a lifetime. You know, You've got look 183 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: at Serena Williams, you know, like incredible athlete, but you 184 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: know that sometimes you just have to take a brids 185 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: egche you can you can you talk about because for 186 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: real world. I'm just remembering that some of this conversations 187 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: them from I think I'm trying to remember it was 188 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: a conversation that you and I had. But on that 189 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: note of like, you know, the grass is greener because 190 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: you look at Jill Scott and you go, she's she's 191 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: a singer, she's got all these TV shows. But we 192 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: had a conversation just about like the stresses of being 193 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: like number one and self worth and what that means 194 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: means on a set when you are number one and 195 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: what comes. But I don't know if you I mean, 196 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: you know, we can add it. So tell me if 197 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: you feel comfortable talk about this. I do, because I 198 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: had to learn. I definitely called some folks to find out. 199 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: Tell them what that means. Number one on the on 200 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: the on the call sheet. Number one on the call 201 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: sheet means if you're not there, then the ship falls apart. Primarily, 202 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: That's what it means. What you're saying is I'm a 203 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: number one on the call sheet of my life. Yeah exactly, 204 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: But on a on a on a TV show, on 205 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: the on the film set, if you're number one on 206 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: the call sheet, you typically you typically do work the 207 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: most hours. You probably have the most face time. The 208 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: responsibility is a lot bigger because when you come in 209 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: you set the tone for the day for everything and everybody, 210 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: including catering. You know, whoever's cleaning up. You know, you 211 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: set the energy. So if you you're stinky and you've 212 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: got a bad attitude, then the day is going just 213 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: like that self to spiritual energy because you have to 214 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: zoom out, you have to emote all of this positive 215 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: energy and this. You know, let's keep going, guys, let's 216 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: get it done, because you know any time after the 217 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: time where you're supposed to a lot that you're allotted 218 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: to do the work. You know, the union charges a 219 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: lot of money and you know what I'm talking about, 220 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: agent like, yeah, you know, like on stage, if you 221 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: go over, it really is a thousand dollars a minute 222 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: a minute, and every minute that you go over on 223 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: stage is a thousand dollars. So you know, you're you're 224 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: as number one. You're mindful of that. You're mindful of 225 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: every actor on your set. You know, you try to 226 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: make sure that everybody is welcome and feels comfortable to 227 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: do the job. So yeah, you gotta do your job 228 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: and know your lines and know your placements, and you 229 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: know you have to also really create a lot of 230 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: camaraderie every day. So it is it is um team leader. 231 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: It's yeah, your team leader basically, Yeah, and it's it's 232 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: easy to be severely exhausted. It's very easy. It's the 233 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: same you know with the film, more television. It's you. 234 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: It's up to you, New York. How this energy is 235 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: gonna go, New York. It's up to you, New York. 236 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: You know how the energy is gonna go. It's man. Yeah, 237 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: it reminds me a little bit of the process of 238 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: being um and I think you have and you can speak. 239 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: You should speak to this too, or I hope you 240 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: can't speak to this as well, that you're number one 241 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: on the call sheet. But then also too before COVID, 242 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: we're about to go on a major tour. We're on 243 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: a major tour in which that same kind of energy 244 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: exists in your music space as well. So you're managing 245 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: that same energy and every you know, in every pocket 246 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: that you that you're present. That's a lot. It is 247 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: a lot. So I guess I'm you know, the deaf, 248 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: and it's in a book and blessed you know, because 249 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: I COVID happened, I had a couple of months which 250 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: were great to catch up in life and living. But 251 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: then the work showed up. It showed up in ways 252 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: that I just I wasn't even looking for, but I said, 253 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: what am I going to do? You know, this is 254 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: an opportunity right now. You talk about the opportunity and 255 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: the opportunities, honey. So you know, even with this show 256 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: j Dot, il an opportunity to talk to my homies, 257 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, just talk about life and and and and 258 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: work and moving forward and growing up, you know, because 259 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: there's you know, I know you guys have heard us 260 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: say this before, but it was great being the young 261 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: girl listening to the elder women chat about life and 262 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: love and you know, moving forward like that was just fly. 263 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: And that's what we've been trying are attempting to bring 264 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: to you, you know, a opportunity to hear your aunties 265 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: because you know, for some of you, your aunties are 266 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: twenty three, you know, so they you know, not to 267 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: say that they aren't smart or that they haven't accomplished much, 268 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: because there are a lot of super accomplished you know, 269 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: young people these days. But there is a life experience too, 270 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: you know, that is really valuable. So having the opportunity 271 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: to share this um has been awesome. Then you know, 272 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: here comes Mahelia, you know, huge opportunity to to lose 273 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: myself as an as an actor, you know, in a 274 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: character that has a lot of layers, a lot of layers, 275 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: and part of my job has been to get in 276 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: line with her, get in line with Mihali Jackson, and 277 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: also to put on some pounds, which has not been 278 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: which has not been my favorite part of this. It's not, 279 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: it's not. But I have to do the best I 280 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: can to represent her the way that I feel that 281 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: she deserves. And then I'm writing a project for myself 282 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: because I'm I have a chance to do that too. 283 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: So I'm writing a project for myself, and that I 284 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: have to turn my body around right after that. Yeah, 285 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: so this book the Busy Business is right here. I'm 286 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: a shining example because it doesn't seem like the work stops, 287 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: probably because I enjoy it so much, probably because it 288 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: half kills me every time. And I feel so accomplished 289 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: when I'm done, when it's something that people really enjoy, 290 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: I feel so good about that. And then I go 291 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: to sleep for three weeks. You know, I said I 292 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: was gonna ask you, let's talk about the self care crash, 293 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: but let me self care first. But I want you 294 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: to speak to the crash because I think everybody has 295 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: the crash and then they learned of self care after 296 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: having had survived. Yeah, that's kind of how it works initially. 297 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm still working on this part about the whole self 298 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: care the whole time, because once the job starts, I'm in, 299 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: you know, and nothing else matters but finishing the job. 300 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: Because you have so many people relying on you, you 301 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: have so many you can't get sick. You can't because 302 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: what happens to the whole lighting crew and their pay, 303 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: what happens to the makeup and hear what about the extras? What? 304 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: What about everybody relying on you to take good care 305 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: of you. I know that that touring initially, that first 306 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: couple of years of touring, I banged it out. It 307 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: was two years of straight, straight touring all over the country, 308 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: all over the world. It was exciting and wonderful. But 309 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I don't work like the roots, 310 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: for instance, they just get up and do it, you know, 311 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: they go from bus to to stay age. I don't. 312 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: I don't have that. Like I learned by you know, 313 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: getting pneumonia three times and having to be hospitalized several 314 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: times because I was trying to keep up with what 315 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, the world was doing. This is how artists work, 316 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: and maybe they still do. I don't know, but I 317 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: don't do it like that anymore because I can't. I 318 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: can't sustain that. But I learned that that's not who 319 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: how I get there. Youth create a space sometimes where 320 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: you don't really see you see yourself as being invincible 321 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: and or maybe it's not that you know that you're 322 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: consciously thinking of yourself as being invincible, but are know, 323 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: but but you know, you are not a very different 324 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: experience even though we were doing the same job. I just, 325 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: you know, I had a very different experience, but the 326 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: but the intensity of the work was there. But that 327 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: feeling of having everyone depending on you and see another 328 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: thing was like, you know, I went through multiple pregnancies 329 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: throughout my or an experiencely so I never wanted to 330 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: feel like I was a person holding everybody back, like, oh, 331 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: we gotta stop because ages slow, We gotta stop because 332 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: just this, we gotta stop because ages on X, Y 333 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: and Z. And it wasn't anything that my husband said 334 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: or did. He was always trying to get me to 335 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: sit my ass down. But I always knew the truth 336 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: is that truth underneath you know, people talk about artists 337 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: being catered to in X, Y and Z, and but 338 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: the truth underneath is, yeah, we're catering to you, but 339 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: if you don't show up, none of us gets paid. 340 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: If you don't do such as such, you we it's 341 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: all depending on you. And so I knew that, and 342 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: I knew that also to for my family, you know 343 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And you know, we we did well 344 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 1: for ourselves, but we were a very much functioning like 345 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: a regular working class family of majority of the time. 346 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: We're not talking about large amounts of money. We're talking 347 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: about more money in the average family of our size, 348 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: obviously because it's the music business, but we're also but 349 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: we were talking about an environment where it's like very 350 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: very very real life, like out of a bubble type ship, 351 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so at the time, 352 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: it was like I pushed myself because I felt like 353 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: I needed to, you know, and I had the body 354 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: and the youth to do. It's like you're not even 355 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: thinking about that. You're pushing yourself, you know what I mean. 356 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: And it's fun. Your body, your body and your brain 357 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: can meet you where you are and you're like poom boom, 358 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: and people like, oh, but you're pregnant. I'm like, shoot, 359 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm twenty two years I'm twenty four years old. Like 360 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm good, and I was healthy, I was eating right. 361 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm I'm good. I enjoyed my my work. 362 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But I think the sacrifice 363 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: to do it. People just don't see everything that you 364 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: do though everything. Did you ever see Ballerina's feat? Mmmmm man, right, 365 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: that's I mean, all of that dedication and pain, and 366 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,479 Speaker 1: you know, it's because you have this this goal in 367 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: mind that you want to dance this ballet, or you 368 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: want to be on the cover of this thing, or 369 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: you want to be respected amongst your peers like you, 370 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: you put in the work for what you want. Uh. 371 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: But it seems like that's that's that mindset is changing, 372 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: and it seems like there's a new generation. It's like 373 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting because you're right, it's so much 374 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: discipline and that and with defeat thing. But I just 375 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: thought this new generation is like, yeah, but I'm still 376 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: gonna take care of me first. I'm not gonna let 377 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: that thing take me out. Though I wish I had 378 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: that mindset at that time. Usually I don't, but I 379 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: don't know if I do, because I don't know if 380 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: I would have. That's the thing, right, Like I wish 381 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: I did in a sense of self worth and appreciating myself. 382 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: But then I'm like, would I be where I am? 383 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: And here's the here's the question. Let's look at let's 384 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: look at a megala star like Beyonce the cod I 385 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: personally think that she is the hardest working woman in 386 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: any industry anywhere. Okay, so had she not had that 387 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: work ethic, right, she wouldn't be Beyonce. Yeah. But but 388 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I'm not all the way sure if 389 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: all of us, I mean, we see the accoutre mall 390 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: of being Beyonce, But does does anyone really want to 391 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: be Beyonce for real? One of it? Right? I mean, 392 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: because she's in the mind state, she probably don't never 393 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: let that go, like you always think you gotta work hard, heart, 394 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: even when she's dead. I mean, we all want to 395 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: be Beyonce, but do we really want to be I mean, 396 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, that is filled, that gig is filled. 397 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I mean, we'll think about Michael Jackson, 398 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: like you know, that was a lot of work. You 399 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: put in a lot of work. My god, you know, 400 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: I mean print they sacrifice their bodies. That's what I'm saying, 401 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: Like you sacrifice your body, like Prince was like, no, 402 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: I'm away these hills regardless of how this hip is feeling, 403 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: because this is I'm giving y'all everything everything, and I'm 404 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: but that that's a part of you know, this gig too. 405 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: There's a lot of selflessness in the entertainment industry in general. 406 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: There's a lot of that. You know, Look, I know 407 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: that I'm very happy to have the jobs that I have, 408 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: but I'm also happier to know what I can do 409 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: and what I can't. And I've had to turn down 410 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: some things, some really great things, because I was like, 411 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: that is not that's not reasonable. I can't do that. 412 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: I would love to do that, but there is no way. 413 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: You know, when when one job is done and I've 414 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: been going from home for five months, you know my 415 00:23:53,920 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: family is visiting me. When it's over, I'm pretty much completed. 416 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: Did you know. I'm pretty depleted and I need to 417 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: recharge and refuel. And that that doesn't necessarily come with 418 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: being on an island somewhere. It comes with being home 419 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: and taking out the trash. Yeah, and cleaning my own 420 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: dog on bathtub. And you know, just see what my 421 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: son is talking about in his face, just watching him 422 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: do stuff, you know, just being home. That of my 423 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: own life. So I don't forget who I am, and 424 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: I don't feel that what matters, because that's that happens. Oh. 425 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: I just said to somebody the other day, I need 426 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: to rush home from this gig. I need to get 427 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: on the airplane because I want to go home and 428 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: go grocery shopping. Yeah, like I just want to. I 429 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: want to have groceries in my house. I just listen 430 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: that I said over and over again, and I think 431 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: probably owes me some money. But I'll say it again. 432 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: That moment when I could put my my ear buzz 433 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: in and listen to some awesome music while I'm in 434 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: tar j for I got it so always my coffee, 435 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: oh am, I my little peace of mind, oh everything. 436 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: I feel so much better. I can't even explain it. 437 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: I got a bunch of ship in my card that 438 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: I don't need, don't you know that I don't need? 439 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: But I all this honey pot. Yeah, but I enjoyed 440 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: the rat by the girl that little tango girl, that 441 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: little tangle, it's all the things. Nobody, but I was 442 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: here for it. You know, tell me, I know this 443 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: is better than the Dr Bonner tag. So it's cool. 444 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: Go ahead. My daughters were like, Mom, do you know 445 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: that these that these have a little I said, I do. Now, Hello, 446 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: good day, Hello. If you don't know what honey pot is, 447 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: it is a feminine wash that it's supposed to balance 448 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: your pH and it's a nice time. I tell you nice. 449 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: It's nice and and it's and it's and it's a 450 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: black woman owned as well. There's that part, honey. But yeah, 451 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: I I get off. My kids know what my routine is, 452 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: and this has been forever. I come home off the 453 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: road and the first thing I do is clean. Well, 454 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: first I cussed everybody out, not real customers, but I 455 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: go off about whatever is either, whatever's broken, whatever was 456 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: not done, what I what I called and said do? 457 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: I go off and then I clean and it's like 458 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: immediately like I don't even sit down. I come in 459 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: the house, like even today I got home from Chicago today, 460 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: first thing I did was sweep my bedroom, sweep the bathroom, 461 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: sweep the steps, go off and then I have to do. Yeah, 462 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean, but you know it's fine because, like I said, 463 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: it makes me feel like a normal person. And it 464 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: also makes me feel like I'm back in control of 465 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: my life and I'm that and I'm I'm back, you know, 466 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: creating the space that I feel responsible for, and that 467 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: makes me feel at peace, you know, and there's no 468 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: amount of work outside this house that can actually replace that. 469 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, it does a thing 470 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: on the psyche when you're in this particular business. When 471 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,719 Speaker 1: you're not able to do that, you can't reconnect with 472 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: the with home, and you can't reconnect with family, and 473 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: you can't reconnect with your own rhythm. Then that's how 474 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: we start getting out of whack. That's when you start 475 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: really seeing artists in particular lose their damn minds because 476 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: they don't have nothing to tell them, they don't have 477 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: anything to to anchor to, and that can in the 478 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: beginning of the COVID some artists you know on Instagram 479 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: kind of looking like they lose them Yeah, because a 480 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: lot of people were losing it though, you know, just 481 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: being stuck at home, not knowing what to do, being 482 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: a part of the grind culture in their face. Right, 483 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: what do I you now? Who am I without all 484 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: of this? Did you just say for the adoration? Adoration 485 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: said the word. This is my first time in j 486 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: L history. I think I'm think thank you for bringing 487 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: attention to that agent really back, really back say the game, 488 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: I said, I said, adoration, That's what I said. I 489 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: said that seriously, because that right there is a drug. Yeah, 490 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: that is a drug, and it will have people thinking 491 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: they are something and someone that they are not tough, 492 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: not what. And I'm like, I can't take it, but 493 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: I want to speak to something really quick though. And 494 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: you talked about being the being number one on the 495 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: call sheet, and that the ideal of, like I said, 496 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: having this responsibility that comes along with your work. Let's 497 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: talk about like being independent and how that's been. That's 498 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: been a romantic size. And also you know, as you boo, 499 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: that's you making the T shirts. That's you designing the shirt, 500 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: that's you put them in a box, that selling them all, 501 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: that's you pressing up stuff. That's you. That's all you 502 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: loos a minute, that's all you playing the thing, calling 503 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: the people skate party, starting the air listen, am providing entertainment. 504 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: While after you've done all the others are like, girl 505 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: that's in that school, right and I got six kids? 506 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: How do it? That's why I feel like you are 507 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: you know, you're one of those people that I would 508 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: put a I would put a cape on you, hunt, 509 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: I would, I mean heavy, I don't. You're a human being. 510 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: I know what you're flesh and blood, that you're a woman, 511 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: that you have concerns that are deep, you have thoughts 512 00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: that they need airing, you know, because you're a friend. Okay, 513 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: I know that I look at everybody the same way. 514 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't think that Beyonce doesn't henita friend you know, 515 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: and have them, you know, I don't. I don't think 516 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: that she doesn't have to take a walk sometimes, you know, 517 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: connect with herself. That's the problem. You know. I got 518 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: the whole thing with being on pedestals, Like it's just 519 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: that's the problem, but it's also a lot of people's 520 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: desire and goal to be placed on that pedestal. Yes, wait, wait, wait, 521 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: do we have another one? Ding ding? I just think 522 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: they're dangerous. I think dangerous. We'll be right back. I 523 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: gotta take this moment to be transparent, like, yes, things 524 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: that y'all said about me. Those things are true because 525 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: that's my life. But I miss a lot of themes, 526 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, I miss a lot of just it's the 527 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: reality of things. I'm gonna there are things are gonna 528 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: slip through the cracks, you know what I'm saying. Like 529 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: my house. I mean like my house. There there's there's 530 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: paint peeling, there's you know, I might not get to 531 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: the laundry, i might not get social such a you know, 532 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: if I'm working, I gotta put off fifteen other things 533 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: in order to get these other disting done. I'm prioritizing. 534 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm prioritizing, but I'm also it's hard to prioritize when 535 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: everything is a priority. Saying again, wait, say what, say 536 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: it again? It's hard to prioritize when everything is a priority. Yes, 537 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: please believe when you see me doing something, there's something 538 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: else of equal importance that's not getting done. And I 539 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: have to say that because I look at myself often 540 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: and I'm always trying to reconcile the things and the 541 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: ways I need to be an appreciation of myself and 542 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: and look at myself as to be like y'all know 543 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: that that me more TikTok, like you're doing a good job, 544 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: doing a good job. I mean, my life is always 545 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: somewhere between bit you're doing a good job and since 546 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: get yourself together. I thought I was gonna watch clothes, 547 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: but then I thought why, right, I was going to 548 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: fool close, But then I thought why it's between there 549 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: somewhere in between absolutely and and trying to be successful 550 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: at your work. Because really, at the end of the day, 551 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: this becomes the thing that validates all of it. And 552 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: people don't talk about that the work and what you 553 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: have done in your work, and that's always the thing 554 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: that people come for. Like in the Internet, it's like 555 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: if you say something that people don't like, well, that's 556 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: why you ain't got no grammy. But that's why you 557 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: just are so and so. But that's why it's such 558 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: and such as better than you. That's why you ain't 559 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: got no money. This is why. And this is not 560 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: just for artists, this is just a regular people. It's 561 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: like people are gonna come for what they can outwardly 562 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: see in terms of what you have done financially in 563 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: your work, in your life, and then come for your neck. 564 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: That's your personal life is so important, vital, it's so 565 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: important the first time, and I believe the only time. 566 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: I cannot think of any other time that I got 567 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: called nigger. I had just finished dancing with Prints till 568 00:33:54,920 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: four in the morning, and it just tickled me. It 569 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: just it just tickled me because here these young people 570 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: coming out of the club and the comment was, get back, nigga, 571 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: stepped back, nigga, and they all laughed. No, there was 572 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, I was just standing out there by myself 573 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: looking up at the stars, like, did I really just 574 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: danced with printsto four in the morning? This is my life. 575 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: I probably I don't know. I think I probably told 576 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 1: you guys this story only, but you know, I didn't 577 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: know not what is this? The young blacks comment come 578 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: out the you know, they were white. They they all 579 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: looked like they had just finished their Ambercrombie and Finch 580 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: photo shoot. I love that. You can't even because I 581 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: don't wear that ship. I ain't got no colors great pale, pink, 582 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: army green and navy amble who be in hobby. Well, anyway, 583 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: they all, you know, came out of the club and 584 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: they said, stepped back, nigga, Get back nigga, and I 585 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: I said, and they laughed and that's what made me 586 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: know that they were talking to me. Nobody else was 587 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: out there at the front of the Roosevelt Hotel in 588 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: l A. And I said, excuse me, and they laughed again. 589 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: Ha ha, what a wonderful night that they've had. And 590 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: they're laughing again. And and then I said, Okay, maybe 591 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: I'm just being you know, maybe that's a song I 592 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: don't know, you know, chill, I had such a wonderful 593 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: evil and the guy says, shut your mouth when a 594 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: white man is speaking. And then I knew that they 595 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: were talking to me. But because I had had this 596 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: wonderful evening, because one of my dreams literally just happened, 597 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: you know, I started to laugh. It was hilarious to 598 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: me that you're being this, you're being distress. You don't 599 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: know me from Adam, and you're you're being so disrespect 600 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: while I laughed, and then I followed them laughing, and 601 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: I continue to to follow them laughing, and they started 602 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 1: speeding up and I laughed more. I laughed so much 603 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: the tears was coming out of my eyes. I laughed 604 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: so hard. I was in a cipher with Stevie, wondering 605 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: prints in my dressing room. Fuck you. You have no 606 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: idea where I've been and what I've done, and the 607 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: diabolical it was diable girl. I like that. I'm gonna 608 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 1: go with that and use that running. They started running 609 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: to their car, which tickled me even more. So I 610 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,439 Speaker 1: was laughing at them with tears running down my eyes. 611 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: That's how funny it was. It was. It was ridiculous 612 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: that that they would spend their time to call me 613 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: out of my name, not understanding who I am, and 614 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: and and at any part of it. And then Alexis, 615 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 1: my assistant and dear friend, pulled up in that nasty 616 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: Mercedes that we and rented while we were there, and 617 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: I watched all of them get into whatever that was, 618 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: some kind of hunda hin day, whatever that was. But 619 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: I watched all of them, you know, the three couples 620 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: packed themselves in this car, and I got in my 621 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: car and I rolled down the window and I laughed 622 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: at them more. It was such a pleasure. It was 623 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: such a pleasure. It's that balance, yo, It's the knowing. 624 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: You know, you can't you can't destroy me, you can't 625 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: belittle me, because my life is juicy and sweet. It 626 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: it freaking drips down my arm but yeah, that damn 627 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: Jill Scotten her food references. I swear always go back 628 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: to that. It has to. It has to because juicy 629 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: and sweet life and the best that is having a 630 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: family that I love that loved me in return. COVID 631 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: definitely gave me some space to get rid of some 632 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: folks that that don't love me right, like you gotta go, 633 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: you know. Look, yeah, I'm definitely one of those people 634 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: who will allow you to hang out way longer than 635 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: you should. We're all really lucky, you know, to be 636 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: able to to work, to get jobs, and we actually 637 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: like to do you know. That's what's up. It's just 638 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: the balancing of it all. Because if you're just working 639 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: and you're not living, then you're not living here. Yeah, 640 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,479 Speaker 1: because I'm like, we are so blessed. I wish people 641 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: understood that like this blessing came with a journey, a 642 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 1: lot of trauma. Like this blessing I'm in with these 643 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: three podcasts came with the three years of living on 644 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: a girl's couch. So yeah, don't see, I'm not in 645 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: it like that. But every time I saw you, every 646 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: time we spoke, you never felt heavy or burdened or 647 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: troubled or and it's not. Yeah, I don't recall that. 648 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: Maybe you were holding onto that for a later time, 649 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 1: but I always saw you as um, somebody really really 650 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: loved like you know. We we always talked about the 651 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: way her parents love her, you know, and your friendships. 652 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: You know. I never saw that's because I also value 653 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: the acknowledge energy. You know, I just text a movie 654 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: fresh today in the sense of saying to her like, 655 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: I was really listening to this episode that we did, 656 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: and I just appreciate your energy, and I appreciate the 657 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: energy that it takes to give off that energy. So 658 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,439 Speaker 1: the energy, Yes, I want to show ingratitude. I would 659 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: just I want to be a part of your replenishment 660 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: because I understand personally that I never, like Jill, I 661 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,479 Speaker 1: try hard not to give people a heavy energy because 662 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: people give me heavy energy, and I know what that 663 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 1: feels like. So yeah, a lot of times, especially depending 664 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: on where I'm seeing you, if you want to work 665 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: situation or something like that, I ain't about to drop 666 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: no ship on what the real deal is because I 667 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: and I also know that I'm goes back to that 668 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: book and blessed thing because I am blessed because I 669 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: do have that love from my parents. I do have 670 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: this couch to sleep on thanks to my whole relationships 671 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: with Philly. And I'm not even gonna get into that, 672 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: but like, because I'm steadily being and blessed, and I 673 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: know that that point that I'm in is not going 674 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: to stay that way because I just know, because I 675 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: love heart and I just know, I know. I just 676 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: feel like at this point I can say what I deserve, 677 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: I think, and you need to hit your forties. You're like, 678 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: I know I deserve more than this couch. And I 679 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: know God see me. You know what I'm saying. I 680 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: know God sees me. Hello, you you want a road 681 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: today like you on the road today on today. I 682 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: cannot let the episode go by without giving this little perspective. 683 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 1: Get it for the black folks, right, I know? Said right? 684 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: I said for the black folks. I know that right 685 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 1: now that we are hearing a lot of energy around 686 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: black excellence and business and being out there and really 687 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 1: like grinding hard and doing the things and generational wealth 688 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: and all of these different things. I do want us 689 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: as a group of people to keep in mind that 690 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: some of the things that we are not receiving from 691 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: the society that we live in will not be fixed 692 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: by our abilities to work ourselves to death for anything, 693 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: whether it be something that we created or something that 694 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: someone else created, that we our bodies have been on 695 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: the line from the very beginning, and that I encourage 696 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: as not to just hand our bodies over in the 697 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: name of righting some wrong that wasn't our original sin 698 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: to begin with. You want to build something building, but 699 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: if you want generational wealth, if you want all the 700 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: answers to these problems and issues, we're gonna have to 701 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: fix and and that somebody's gonna have to atone that's 702 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: not on us. And I want us to remember that 703 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: even as we go out and we innovate and create 704 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: and work and do the work that we feel like 705 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: we need to do, just know that there are some 706 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,800 Speaker 1: people who a hundred years ago had wealth and because 707 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,720 Speaker 1: of this foul country and the way that it's been built, 708 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 1: that their families lost it. Anyway, I want to shout 709 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 1: out to the family who started their own beach in 710 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: California and their families are just now and and that 711 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: that's Bruce's Beach, that family that had that that property 712 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: taken from them by eminent domain and they are just 713 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 1: now as a family receiving that that property back. I 714 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: just want to say that because they were successful, they 715 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: had built the wealth, they had bought the land. But 716 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: the country is kped, the society is kped. So I 717 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: want to say that so that we don't lose. So 718 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 1: we do not lose, you know, site of what we're 719 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,760 Speaker 1: dealing with here, So preserve the preserve the family, preserve 720 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: those things because that has been the wealth that has 721 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: kept us here. Yeah, and can we just say to 722 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,359 Speaker 1: to us I just got I mean, I feel like 723 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: in this COVID year and on jd Ill, like we 724 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: highly encourage a little frolic Like we highly encourage black 725 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 1: people frolic in because we discovered that like this is 726 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: not something that we're used to doing. And I just 727 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: want to say in COVID, I feel like, uh, some 728 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 1: black people have gotten the message and we're on our 729 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: bicycles more. And he guess who bron skates back? You 730 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know what I mean, Like 731 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: skates are selling out across the country because we are 732 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: figuring out that it's more to this life than just work. 733 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: All this work, all this work, all this work. So 734 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: many black people on bicycles this weekend. It made me 735 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: so happy, y'all. I was just shouting out to him 736 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 1: like I see you you got and listen to me. 737 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: Black people got they fool bike and outfits on some 738 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: of them is doing that racist thing and end them 739 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: and they just going real fast and then you know 740 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: the outfits and some others just it's that families and 741 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,959 Speaker 1: everybody's got a bike. And I'm just like, okay, y'all, 742 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: we we we we get, we get were getting there 743 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: were siating present. Okay, good because black folks, you know, 744 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: would be about that work, getting it done. Gotta work, 745 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 1: gotta hustle, gotta get it, gotta get it, hustle hard. 746 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: And the blessing is work for sure, being able to 747 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: provide for your family and live some life and do 748 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,959 Speaker 1: some stuff that's fun, like riding a bike or going 749 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: to a beach or you know, whatever it is that 750 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: you like to do. Maybe some of you are big foodies, 751 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:39,399 Speaker 1: you know, having experiences with fine you know, cuisine, all 752 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: of those things. You know, that's wonderful. Oh yeah, having 753 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: the time to do that kind of stuff. If you're 754 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:50,720 Speaker 1: only working, be mindful friends. If all that you're doing 755 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 1: is is just working, then it's it's a blessing to 756 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 1: have the work. But it's not necessarily a blessed situation 757 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 1: if you're not feeling joy, if you're not happy to 758 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: get up and go and do the thing, even though 759 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: it's hard, even though you're tired, even though you know 760 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,839 Speaker 1: something has frustrated you. If you're not happy to do 761 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,359 Speaker 1: the work, then you're working. It's not a blessing. You're 762 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: just working. Mm. Now that part is up to you 763 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 1: how you change that narrative for your life, you know. 764 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: General reminder, we only get one. Thank you so much 765 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,760 Speaker 1: for listening to Jay dot Illo podcast. Thank you so 766 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: so so much. We are booked and blessed out here 767 00:45:39,440 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 1: piece y'all. Hi, if you have comments on something we 768 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 1: said in this episode called eight six six, Hey Jill, 769 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: if you want to add to this conversation, that's eight 770 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,879 Speaker 1: six six four three nine five four five by don't 771 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 1: forget to tell us your name and the episode you're 772 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: referring to. You might just hear your message on a 773 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,800 Speaker 1: future episode. Thank you for listening to Jill Scott Presents 774 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: Jay dot il the Podcast. 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