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Speaker 1: Podcast John Annik and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love them.

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Speaker 3: I can't get enough of it.

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Speaker 2: There are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 1: You're your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: Oh so good to be back in your respective lives,

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Speaker 4: especially if you're live with us on a Monday. It's

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Speaker 4: June sixteenth, eleven two am Eastern Standard time. It is

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Speaker 4: episode five five five, five hundred and fifty fifth edition

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Speaker 4: of the anticin Florian Podcast, presented by DraftKings DraftKings. The

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Speaker 4: crown is yours, Ken foll You look phenomenal not wearing

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Speaker 4: a hat for the first time at about one hundred

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Speaker 4: and fifty episodes. A lot of questions on the back

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Speaker 4: end of your trip to Turkey, but it's great to

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Speaker 4: see you're smiling. I know you have a high tolerance

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Speaker 4: and threshold for pain, but my lead investigative journalism question

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Speaker 4: is how painful was your hair procedure?

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Speaker 3: It was not fun. So first of all, I can't

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Speaker 3: wear hats. That's why I'm.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 4: I saw when you were doing some of that practical

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Speaker 4: shooting you maybe had something wrapped up. I mean, we're

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Speaker 4: already were already so iron hair, I.

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Speaker 6: Should say this, So the only thing I can wear

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Speaker 6: is like a bucket hat, so it can't be something

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Speaker 6: that's pressing down on my head right now. Yeah, But

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Speaker 6: in regards to pain, dude, it was not fun. So

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Speaker 6: I have an issue. You know, I'm probably add like

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Speaker 6: I can't sit in one place for too long. And

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Speaker 6: I was in a chair for about ten hours they

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Speaker 6: were extracting hair from my head. So imagine, you know,

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Speaker 6: and I'm already sedated and they're putting some kind of

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Speaker 6: anesthetic on my head. But imagine getting your head, your

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Speaker 6: scalp tattooed for ten hours straight. That's what it felt like.

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Speaker 6: And it was maybe a little bit more intense than

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Speaker 6: that at times, but it was it was not fun

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Speaker 6: and in very uncomfortable positions like these people are are

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Speaker 6: ramming my head like you know, in places like I

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Speaker 6: felt like it was in a headlock for like ten

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Speaker 3: So it wasn't that fun. But it's over with.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad I did it, and I'm also even more

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Speaker 6: glad I'm back home.

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Speaker 3: So here we are.

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Speaker 4: So part of this is like a public service announcement

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Speaker 4: or information and the masses, because I know a lot

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Speaker 4: of people deal with this, and the Anticonforming Podcast has

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Speaker 4: not taken any dime from anyone for this or otherwise.

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Speaker 4: But you did not have to have your head shaved.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I was actually pleasantly surprised. I thought I was

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Speaker 6: going to have to. But they're like, now, you're good.

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Speaker 6: You just you just need to get into the front.

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Speaker 6: So we're just gonna do it in the front and

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Speaker 6: you're good. I was like, nice, I got to keep

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Speaker 6: my hair. But anyways, yeah, I mean it looks a

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Speaker 6: little funny, but hey, here we are, man, it is

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Speaker 4: Oh, I was growing my hair out for like seven

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Speaker 4: days or so, maybe six. I looked like a fucking

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Speaker 4: chia pet right. The white whipple, the white stripes, all

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Speaker 4: of it. I like, And I was gonna I'm back

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Speaker 4: in the Northeast, so I was gonna go to Bristol,

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Speaker 4: Connecticut to my old barber, Neil, and I was gonna

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Speaker 4: get a fade and sort of jokingly with you today,

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Speaker 4: be like, dude, I'm growing my hair back out.

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Speaker 7: Bro.

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Speaker 4: Yeah there, and I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it.

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Speaker 4: We shaved it all off. But it's great to see you.

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Speaker 4: You look fantastic and we have a lot to get

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Speaker 4: into today. Ray Longo coming up in twenty five minutes

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Speaker 4: fifteen minutes on the front end of that big weekend

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Speaker 4: for Dirty Boxing, we'll talk to the CEO, Malki Kawa

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Speaker 4: and my twin brother, one of their commentators, Jason Aik.

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Speaker 4: We will also talk to Malcolm well Maker out trying

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Speaker 4: to murder a man in the octagon Saturday night, so

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Speaker 4: we'll talk to Augusta George's Finest Malcolm well Maker coming

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Speaker 4: up in about fifty five minutes potential special guest plan

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Speaker 4: as well as Brian Petrie on the back end, as

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Speaker 4: we spin it forward to Azerbaijan, UFC Fight Night Hill

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Speaker 4: the Round Tree, Junia, but a big weekend for Kamar

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Speaker 4: Usman and the Ultimate Fighting Championship. To that end, headlines

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Speaker 4: brought to you by Quervo. Now's a good time to

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Speaker 4: enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. It was UFC Fight Night,

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Speaker 4: Usman v. Buckley. What a performance by Kamara Usman and

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Speaker 4: I don't want to immediately just go to his post

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Speaker 4: fight interview with Charlie Arnold on the post fight show

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Speaker 4: that I watched. But and by the way, shout out

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Speaker 4: to Charlie, really natural interviewer. But Kamorrow basically said, Kenny,

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Speaker 4: if you don't want me to do this to everybody,

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Speaker 4: then I need to fight someone like Islamikash Ever, Jack

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Speaker 4: Dela Mattelena as he tried to spit it forward, outstanding

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Speaker 4: performance in a career full of them for the future

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Speaker 4: Hall of Famer, the Nigerian Nightmare who is still alive

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Speaker 4: and well Kamar us.

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Speaker 6: It's so easy to forget in this game and mix

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Speaker 6: martial arts where fans can be very fickle and analysts

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Speaker 6: times when you think, you know, maybe we just saw

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Speaker 6: you think, you know, oh, you know, he's still gonna

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Speaker 6: be very very good. But can't he beat that up

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Speaker 6: Joaquin Buckley, And you know, the answer was a resounding yes.

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Speaker 6: Kamara Uzman looked to be in fantastic shape.

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Speaker 6: That was probably the best that I've seen him from

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Speaker 6: was saying prior to that fight. He looked phenomenal. His control,

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Speaker 6: his grounded pound looked to be at an other level still,

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Speaker 6: and it's great to see a guy like kamara Uzman

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Speaker 4: So Sean O'Malley says, timing plus speed equals power. But

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Speaker 4: some gentlemen and women just have natural, god given genetic power,

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Speaker 4: and Joaquin Buckley is a freak athletically, not unlike kamara Usman.

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Speaker 4: But a lot of people believe that the biggest singular

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Speaker 4: So this is a massive opportunity for him, one that

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Speaker 4: he pined for for years. He finally, with a winning streak,

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Speaker 4: worked his way into this fight. What went wrong for

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Speaker 6: So I thought it was brilliant that Kamara Uzman, of

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Speaker 6: you know what, I'm not going to mess around with

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Speaker 6: the power. I'm going to keep you on the outside

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Speaker 6: it was brilliant for a lot of reasons. First of all,

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Speaker 6: He's very strong, but Kamarrow Uzman's ability to put force

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Speaker 6: association with his ground pound was absolutely a brilliant thing, and.

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Speaker 3: It took away Buckley's power.

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Speaker 6: I think later on in the fight, I think if

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Speaker 6: Buckley was way more fresh, or if he didn't have

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Speaker 6: some of those shots that he did land that may

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Speaker 6: But it seemed to me like he's he built up

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Speaker 4: John, So, if you wonder aloud, how many times in

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Speaker 4: a ten fight series, Joaquin Buckley might beat Kamara Usman,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the answer to that is. Right,

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Speaker 4: He's got a lot of different tools, but sometimes you

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Speaker 4: just run into a nightmare, a Nigeria nightmare. On one

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Speaker 4: of his better nights, I think in terms of just

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Speaker 4: putting it all together right, fainting all night long, fainting

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Speaker 4: takedowns and landing big right hands and to your point,

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Speaker 4: progressively grappling, passing, it just was a really vintage like

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Speaker 4: performance from Kamara Usman. And I just think, like Alexander

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Speaker 4: Kamara Usman was back in a big way. And it's

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Speaker 4: you know, it's gonna be interesting to see just how

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Speaker 4: much he has left because he looked pretty prime on

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Speaker 6: He really did experience matters so much in this game.

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Speaker 6: Your ability to manage time, your ability to control time,

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Speaker 6: and he just played it brilliantly. Man took Buckley out

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Speaker 6: Joaquin Buckley's best round was round five, which is a

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Speaker 3: You know, I think.

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Speaker 6: Maybe an earlier Joaquin Buckley maybe would have given up

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Speaker 6: a little bit at times, but no, Joaquin was determined

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Speaker 3: He just wasn't able to. Kamara Usman is just that good.

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Speaker 4: So my job affords me the opportunity and yours of course,

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Speaker 4: to develop interpersonal relationships with these athletes and sometimes maybe

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Speaker 4: you yourself doing a movie with Kamara Usman at a

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Speaker 4: challenging time in your personal life, as I did, and

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Speaker 4: he's giving me all this personal life advice, and you know,

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Speaker 4: we end up connecting a pretty deep way.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: I called his UFC debut in twenty fifteen, and he

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Speaker 4: have to say, hey, man, like, when you see someone

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Speaker 4: like Joaquin Buckley work himself into this moment, you know,

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Speaker 4: part of me does have a rooting interest on that side,

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Speaker 4: because you want him to realize the financial gain and

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Speaker 4: financial freedom and everything that comes with being a world champion,

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Speaker 4: right And I know Joaquin Buckley has worked really hard,

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Speaker 4: so I just sort of wanted to share that as

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Speaker 4: a fan, you know, I have sort of rooting interest

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Speaker 4: on both sides of this. But I do feel bad

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Speaker 4: for Joaquin Buckley. There are a lot of big fights

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Speaker 4: for him. You know, I still think it stands to

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Speaker 4: we sort of move it forward, for Kamara Usman, he's

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Speaker 4: number five in the world. His losing streak is a

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Speaker 4: thing of the past. Obviously, there was the short note

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Speaker 4: great to see you, brother, Good morning to you. Congratulations

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Speaker 9: And brot mexplain something to you. If chicks are allowed

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Speaker 9: Man, But John, listen, I'm not gonna lie to you, right.

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Speaker 9: So dude, we so you guys know, right, like we

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Speaker 9: like I mean, we might go to if you start

433
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Speaker 9: to grab you know, warnings and and uh forestalling because

434
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Speaker 9: that could be considered stalling, you know what I mean. And

435
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 9: we're talking, you know, we're talking that over now. So

436
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 9: what you guys are gonna get from us as we

437
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Speaker 9: continue to go is just an action packed, super you know,

438
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Speaker 9: strategic rule set that's meant for everyone to enjoy what

439
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Speaker 9: they're watching.

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Speaker 6: I think it's a smart approach. Man, MALKI, where do

441
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 6: you want to take this sport?

442
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Speaker 10: Like?

443
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Speaker 3: What do you what's your goal with DBX, Dude?

444
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Speaker 2: I want to.

445
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Speaker 7: I want to.

446
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Speaker 9: I want to make combat sports exciting, you know what

447
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Speaker 9: I mean? I just want to make combat sports exciting again.

448
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Speaker 9: I just think that that we've we've lost, you know

449
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Speaker 9: what I mean a lot of what we liked about

450
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Speaker 9: combat sports, just in all of it, you know what

451
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Speaker 9: I mean. Obviously, the UFC is the king right now.

452
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Speaker 9: I love the UFC, I think you know obviously I

453
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 9: mean Ken Flow all all all of us right on

454
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 9: this phone have all made our names through M M

455
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Speaker 9: A right, and MMM was an evolution of, you know

456
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Speaker 9: what I mean, a very simple format of we want

457
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Speaker 9: to know who.

458
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Speaker 2: Has the best rule, like who has the best.

459
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Speaker 7: Discipline in martial arts.

460
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Speaker 9: So the tech one though guy fought the keempo guy,

461
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 9: the kempbal guy fought the boxer, The boxer fought the wrestler,

462
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Speaker 9: the jiu jitsu guy. If you guys go back to

463
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 9: you know, to UFC one, two and three basically won

464
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Speaker 9: everything and it didn't matter how much you weighed and

465
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Speaker 9: all that. And as they refined the sport to make

466
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Speaker 9: it a sport and something that was safe and more

467
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Speaker 9: of a competition instead of a spectacle.

468
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Speaker 7: Right, you see the evolution.

469
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Speaker 2: Of the UFC and it's the world leader in combat sports.

470
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Speaker 9: But you get into some of these cards and the

471
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Speaker 9: finishers aren't there the way you want them to be.

472
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Speaker 9: And I think a lot of it has to do

473
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Speaker 9: with the grappling. For guys like us that are into

474
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Speaker 9: jiu jitsu and wrestled and loved those sports, I just

475
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Speaker 9: think that sometimes the way those rules are applied in

476
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Speaker 9: combat sports. You know, when you get a guy taken

477
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Speaker 9: down and you're on top of him and you're in

478
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Speaker 9: a dominant position, but there's no action. Bro, nobody wants

479
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Speaker 9: to see that for two minutes, you know what I'm saying, Like,

480
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Speaker 9: I don't want to spend fifteen hundred ars sent in

481
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Speaker 9: the front row and be like looking at the screen

482
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Speaker 9: waiting for a guy to stand up and potentially get

483
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Speaker 9: a knockout. I get that's part of the drama, but

484
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Speaker 9: I'd rather than just be like, if you're gonna go

485
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Speaker 9: to the ground, let's just try to finish it. And

486
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Speaker 9: so that's kind of you know how I see it.

487
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Speaker 9: So I just look, dude, I'm not gonna lie to you.

488
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Speaker 9: The plans for DBX is to become a world leader

489
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Speaker 9: in combat sports. You get what I'm coming from. Not

490
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Speaker 9: competing with the UFC. I'm not trying to be boxing,

491
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 9: but I want to be one of those promotions that

492
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Speaker 9: people will look at across the world right and say,

493
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Speaker 9: holy shit, I hope they come to my city, sort

494
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Speaker 9: of like how the UFC does. So the plan is,

495
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Speaker 9: the plan is to go at some point week to

496
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Speaker 9: week and do somewhere, you know, north of forty shows

497
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Speaker 9: a year.

498
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Speaker 2: Wow.

499
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, there are a lot of things going for

500
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Speaker 4: you guys, and nice to see the likes of Andre

501
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Speaker 4: Berto and other people in the building, of course, the

502
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Speaker 4: great John Jones and everybody else. Malki Kaw with Jason

503
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Speaker 4: Anda from Dirty Boxing with us, and I have to say,

504
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Speaker 4: even if my twin brother didn't work for the company,

505
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Speaker 4: I really think you have struck a chord with this

506
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Speaker 4: rule set. Right, Like Jason does a lot of grappling commentary,

507
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Speaker 4: I don't watch that, you know, No, I'm just kidding,

508
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 4: But like the dirty boxing, I really think you have

509
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Speaker 4: found the right rule set, Jay, I am going to

510
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 4: put you on the spot a little bit in terms

511
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Speaker 4: of the roster. Right, Jarzenio Rosenstrike just made his dirty

512
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Speaker 4: boxing debut. He's fighting this absolutely charismatic lunatic of a

513
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 4: wolf from Woolston, Massachusetts. Right, that's gonna be the first

514
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 4: dirty boxing heavyweight championship fight as I understand it. But

515
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Speaker 4: I'm looking for some of these other names, one or two.

516
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Speaker 4: Luis Saldania just made his dirty boxing debut. This is

517
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 4: a UFC level striker, a great kicker who now has

518
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 4: to check those kicks, but he just won by t KO.

519
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Speaker 4: Give me a name or two of guys who you've

520
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Speaker 4: seen that you think can be a potential star for

521
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Speaker 4: this promotion.

522
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Speaker 3: Well, I'll give you a few.

523
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Speaker 4: Names in a minute. But you can see why Malki

524
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Speaker 4: is the chief executive officer. Can you not and I mean,

525
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Speaker 4: like this guy can promote in terms of my hair, Malki,

526
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Speaker 4: I mean a lot of these fans are amen, right,

527
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Speaker 4: I don't really take my hair advice from men.

528
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Speaker 3: Now.

529
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Speaker 4: My wife would agree that I should trim up the

530
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Speaker 4: lettuce a little bit. But Malki, you didn't know me

531
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Speaker 4: with the hair down below my shoulders.

532
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Speaker 9: But listen, I'm with you, But I'm a man of

533
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 9: the people, bro. And if the people say the hair

534
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Speaker 9: is stupid, I don't even tell what your wife says

535
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Speaker 9: with your brother says, well, anybody that people said the

536
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Speaker 9: hair the end of the day, at the end of

537
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Speaker 9: the day, right, shave them, mother fuckers. You look like

538
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 9: your brother and they could just just bite.

539
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Speaker 7: In the UFC.

540
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 4: And that's and that's the adjective he used stupid twice.

541
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Speaker 4: And I'll talk to you about the fighters, but we

542
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 4: could we could have a talk off the record. If

543
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 4: you think I'm shaving my head to look like that guy,

544
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 4: you got another thing coming out. I wouldn't want to

545
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 4: look like the terms of in terms of some of

546
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Speaker 4: the fighters. Before I even get to some of the

547
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Speaker 4: sort of up and comments with dirty boxing. Because I

548
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 4: think your question is maybe the most important one. But

549
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 4: there were seven two combined seventy two combined UFC fights

550
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 4: on their resumes for fighters on the main card, right.

551
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 4: I know Alex Casarras made up thirty of those fights,

552
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 4: but the looks on the faces of Jessica Rose Clark

553
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 4: and Alex Cassras literally looking like they never had more

554
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 4: fun in their life. And Malki used the word lulls right,

555
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 4: even from a commentator standpoint, find me a lull to

556
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Speaker 4: get in with a thought in this sport. Three three

557
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 4: minute rounds, so it's absolutely electric, electric and it flies by.

558
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Speaker 4: We're not doing anything that we're trying to milk a broadcast.

559
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 4: But in terms of coming some of the up and

560
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 4: coming stars, let's just start with Rob Perez, right, there

561
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 4: was a dirty boxing pilot in November. He fought on

562
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 4: that and one he also fought in March against Zach Pauluga,

563
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 4: who's been around, fought in the UFC and won and

564
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Speaker 4: then just beat out to Nicholson, who Perry was adamantly

565
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Speaker 4: rooting for in the booth, I might say, was the

566
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Speaker 4: Massachusetts own. Every time he gets on the mic, you

567
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 4: already know he's a star. He was the star star

568
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 4: of the moment I met him, So I think he's

569
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Speaker 4: a promoter's dream. And whether Perry wanted Nicholson to win

570
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Speaker 4: or not, And maybe I'm overstating this, but I think

571
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Speaker 4: it's a dream that Rob Perez won. You get Wolf

572
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 4: versus a UFC legitimate UFC fighter in Jarsino Rosenstrike. So

573
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Speaker 4: that's the name that jumps off the map for me.

574
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 4: Another guy, Giirmo Bostos, who fought his third fight, got

575
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Speaker 4: Fight of the night against Milos Yaniicic and that's a name.

576
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Speaker 4: Talk about YouTube comments. I didn't see anything about my hair.

577
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 4: Everyone was talking about Milos Yani, who has a huge

578
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 4: following on Instagram. Eighteen and three in MMA eighteen finishes,

579
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Speaker 4: there's a lot of different sort of avenues of the

580
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 4: fighters in Dirty Box and I could talk for hours.

581
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 4: It's been amazing.

582
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Speaker 9: But listen, but let's go back to the to the

583
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 9: DBX too. Do you remember the fighter that fought in

584
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 9: that one fight where he fucking he hit him with

585
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 9: a hook, dude falls and he handle bombs.

586
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Speaker 7: The dude right after that.

587
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Speaker 3: Yes, you're putting I think he's I think I.

588
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 7: Think he's I think he's the guy.

589
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Speaker 9: I think he's the guy also like, I mean, there's

590
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 9: here's see ken flow.

591
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 7: Here's the thing.

592
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 9: There's dudes that legitimately are bringing it every single time.

593
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 9: And so one thing I don't want to do, right,

594
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 9: I don't want to be a guy that the UFC,

595
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 9: you know, uh cuts the guy he's forty plus years old.

596
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 9: And then we're just gonna keep bringing them in guys

597
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 9: like yo yo. Let's for example, just say yo, well

598
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 9: can use Joel Romero twice, right, but you love Romero.

599
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 9: It's still a guy that can fight, right, Like, I'm

600
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 9: not bringing guys that their chin is gone. I don't

601
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 9: want to bring a guy that's not gonna be able

602
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 9: to fight. I don't want to bring a guy that

603
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 9: can't have, you know what, I mean, a respectable show. Right,

604
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 9: That's one thing we're not going to do. I don't

605
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 9: care if they've lost ten fights in boxing. I don't

606
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 9: care if they've lost ten fights in the UFC. If

607
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 9: they are going to bring it and they're gonna actually

608
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 9: fight and they're gonna put on a show. Right, they

609
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 9: have a home at DBX, right, Well, it's not about wins.

610
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 9: And because here's the thing, people are like, oh, that

611
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 9: guy lost five times in the UFC he sucks, dude,

612
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 9: he'd still beat your ass, right, Like these are these

613
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 9: dudes are still better than the average guy walking around.

614
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 7: That's not competing, you know what I mean.

615
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 9: So for me, it's like if you're a guy that's

616
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 9: fought in boxing or in the UFC or the PFL

617
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 9: or bellatur or whatever it is, and you've got something

618
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 9: to you, right, but more than that, you're willing to

619
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 9: come and actually put on a show. Right, You'll you'd

620
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,239
Speaker 9: have from home here and we'll just build them back

621
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Speaker 9: up and at the end of the day, you know

622
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 9: what I mean. It's it's what see, That's what the

623
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 9: UFC is about, right, is which style is the best style?

624
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 7: That was what their whole goal was in the very beginning.

625
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 9: Now it's turned into who can take all the styles,

626
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 9: mix it and become the best mixed martial artist?

627
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:54,239
Speaker 10: Right?

628
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 9: Great, And so our promotion is not into all that.

629
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Speaker 9: Our promotion is who's the best and under the rule

630
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 9: set that can make it exciting and that can make

631
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 9: it entertaining for the fans, and whoever is that guy?

632
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: Right and whoever?

633
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 9: So, for example, even in like building up a fight,

634
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 9: Jarzenia Roses strike guy with tell me Mark, He's only

635
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 9: had one fight under under these rules, right, so why

636
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 9: would he get a title shot? I think he brings

637
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 9: a legit kickboxing record with him. He brings a legit

638
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 9: UFC record with him. He's fought in some of the

639
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 9: biggest fights out there. He won under our rule set.

640
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 9: He knocked the guy out, was also a respectable guy,

641
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 9: and I think that for me, for me to put

642
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 9: him through three more fights to build him up is

643
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 9: not necessary. But this Rob Perez guy, if he can

644
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 9: beat Jarzinia Rosenstrot, I really believe in my heart, kid

645
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 9: could be a start to become a big time star,

646
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 9: right and that can start to be a guy that

647
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 9: people will tune into and watch, and those are the guys.

648
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 4: That will and be one of your first true homegrown stars.

649
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Speaker 4: And then maybe Joel Romero shows up in his bracket

650
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 4: and his first title defense for the Dirty Boxing Heavyweight Championship. Hey, congratulations.

651
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 4: You can follow at Dirty Boxing DBX three is July

652
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Speaker 4: the twenty sixth, and well, no hold on, hold, on

653
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 4: hold on thirty more seconds, We're gonna We're gonna probably move,

654
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 4: You're gonna move that.

655
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Speaker 9: Probably gonna move that correct, We're gonna probably go Aust

656
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 9: first instead of July twenty sixth. We're gonna go apply

657
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 9: just a week later. We got some stuff that we're

658
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 9: gonna do that's gonna be a little bit interesting. Might

659
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 9: move the location, all that other stuff. There's some things

660
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 9: that we still have to tie in up on. Like

661
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 9: I listen, the one thing I will say, whoever comes

662
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 9: to our events, you know what I mean, We're only

663
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 9: gonna make them better. Whoever's watching our events, the production,

664
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Speaker 9: all that quality is still it's just all gonna get better.

665
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 9: And I really you know, we've hired a lot of

666
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 9: key people, and you know, we think that what do

667
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 9: you call it, where we have a product in the

668
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 9: next year that will be something that I can take

669
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Speaker 9: on the road and really, you know, start to really

670
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Speaker 9: put out there as we're doing now.

671
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Speaker 2: If that makes sense.

672
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Speaker 4: Well, congratulations Malki Kawa, the CEO, Jason, I'm gonna keep

673
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 4: you around just for a second as we cross over

674
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 4: to Ray Longo, My man, I appreciate it. I'm gonna

675
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 4: go find this motherfucker, uh and I am gonna talk

676
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 4: to his barber, Jihanny, and we'll take that level down

677
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 4: on the hair a little bit mad.

678
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 9: That's the problem though. Barbara's name is Johnny guy. I

679
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 9: don't know what to tell you.

680
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 4: Hey, the ball guy you see if you can afford

681
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 4: the ball guy on the screen. Hey, thank you brother,

682
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 4: all the best. We'll talk to love you man, Thank you.

683
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 4: Malki cow with us here on the Anak and Florian podcast.

684
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 4: Really enjoyed the dirty boxing stuff. You can go for

685
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 4: wide and bring on the absolute legend, Raymond Peter Longo.

686
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 4: Are we going to bak kuaser by Jean.

687
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 10: Well, yes we are. Well, let me take a look

688
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 10: at Kenny. I don't have my context and how we

689
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 10: look him.

690
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 6: Buddy, there's nothing that I look exactly the same I

691
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 6: did last week.

692
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 4: You can't even tell.

693
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 10: I tell you know, John, you know what he did?

694
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 10: This son of a bitch. She didn't get ahead tread

695
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 10: because he had a facelift. He looks great, this guy.

696
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 10: Why would he get a hand?

697
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: Guys looking at you got your eyes.

698
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: So I did not.

699
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 4: I don't want to embarrass the man.

700
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 7: You know.

701
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 4: Code Blue was trying to go on the close up there,

702
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 4: Yeah a little. He didn't have to uh, he didn't

703
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 4: have to shave his head. Ray a lot of these

704
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 4: guys shaving their heads.

705
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 10: What I'm going If I don't have to shave my head,

706
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 10: I'm doing it. Wait did you did you fly out

707
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 10: of Istanbul? Or?

708
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: I did? I went to Istanbul and back.

709
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 10: Man, how's the airport?

710
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 3: Not too bad? Not too bad?

711
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 7: You know.

712
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: Listen, I'm a happily married man.

713
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 4: Hang on a second. Oh sorry, okay, I've heard the

714
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: airport of Istanbul Turkey is like otherworldly amazing.

715
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 3: No, it's really nice. It's really nice, dude. And I

716
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: didn't know how beautiful the women are in Turkey by

717
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: the way.

718
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 7: Wow.

719
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah I did. I did not know. It

720
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Speaker 3: took me by surprise. Let's just say that.

721
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Speaker 10: A lot.

722
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Speaker 4: Do you want to answer the question so rudly interrupted?

723
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 4: Sorry about that, John, No, I'm so rudely interrupted. You

724
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 4: had asked ken Flow a question.

725
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 10: I wanted to know if he got himself any Turkish taffy?

726
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: What is Turkish taff I know Turkish delights?

727
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 9: I don't know?

728
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 10: Wow, Turkish? You don't remember? Wow, I'm now I'm majoring myself.

729
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: It was a ray?

730
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

731
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Speaker 10: Whatever?

732
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Speaker 3: Ray?

733
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 10: Yes?

734
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Speaker 4: When are you leaving for Azerbaijan?

735
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 10: Very soon today? Yeah?

736
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Speaker 3: Oh wow? Look at dedication bang.

737
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Speaker 10: Out the podcast and that's it. Baby, We're going.

738
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Speaker 4: All right, Well, we're not going to keep you long,

739
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 4: so uh what Uh? It's interesting. You know, there was

740
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 4: some rumor report that maybe Jamal Hill was having some

741
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 4: trepidation about going. I think it was probably just a

742
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 4: fault report. But you know, given everything that's going on

743
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,239
Speaker 4: in the world, I do know that there are some

744
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 4: people who have a little bit of trepidation going to Azerbaijan.

745
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 4: Maybe those people aren't as tough as you.

746
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 7: But.

747
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 10: No, I'm not that tough. I'm shipping in my pants,

748
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 10: are you. Yeah?

749
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, You're gonna be fine. He'll be fine here,

750
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 4: You'll be fine. So it's interesting. I remember in April

751
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty when I was trying to convince my

752
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 4: wife that I was gonna fly to Denver and then

753
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 4: I was gonna rent a car and drive to Lamore, California,

754
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 4: so we could do a UFC live event just as

755
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 4: COVID had started. She's like, you're a lunatic, and I'm

756
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 4: like Dana White brick Wall. We run through it and

757
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 4: the event got canceled, right, But it is a tricky situation.

758
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 4: You know, a guy like Bruce Buffer getting on a

759
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 4: plane to go to Azerbaijan right now, And you know,

760
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 4: it's for a lot of people. I think it's uh,

761
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 4: it's an inconvenient truth of the industry that we're in.

762
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 4: I guess Ray you know that depending on what's going

763
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 4: on where you're going, you know, it's wheels up for

764
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 4: nauseum Satakov.

765
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, uh, yeah, this is what it is. Look, Nasa

766
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 10: is in his hometown, he's got his family going, he's

767
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 10: super excited, looks like he's having a great time over there.

768
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 10: So it's a big deal for him. And I'm going

769
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 10: to take a stop in Italy for a couple of days,

770
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 10: get a taste of my homeland, and head over to Baku.

771
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 3: Nice.

772
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 4: That's amazing. Is your wife going with you?

773
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 10: Yes?

774
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: She is.

775
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so you're not shitting your pants. Your wife's

776
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 4: with you?

777
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 10: Yeah?

778
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: Can all go down together?

779
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 3: Right?

780
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: So?

781
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 10: Oh my god? Jodea Jason, Jason, what's the matter with him?

782
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 4: Well, I was wondering why I was here, and it's

783
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 4: just to have one of those moments. Very I'm embarrassed,

784
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 4: I mean the embarrassed. Dominic cruise and I so often

785
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 4: in Montreal were like kids just no, no, in.

786
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Speaker 3: A good way. He just doesn't give me good stuff.

787
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 4: He just loves run his mouth. I'll be quiet. What

788
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 4: I'll be quiet? Oh, you're great, You're great. Ray What

789
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,479
Speaker 4: do we think of this Nicholas Moda that that Nas

790
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 4: is fighting this weekend?

791
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 10: Yeah? I think tough kid base, very basic, but tough.

792
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 10: And I think Nas has got way too many skills

793
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 10: and he's seen that type of shit a lot, so

794
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 10: I think Nas should run circles around him.

795
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, Jay, we're gonna talk to Raymond about

796
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 4: Kamara Usman. But I just wanted to say to you

797
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 4: before we sort of let you go, congrats on now

798
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 4: standing performance at Dirty Boxing, post fight interviews and everything else.

799
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 4: He did a great job. I hope you have a

800
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 4: great day at a better evening. And if you have

801
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 4: a parting shot, we'll fucking take it. Otherwise you can

802
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 4: close your stream yard and we'll talk to real soon. Yeah,

803
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 4: the parting shot. Good luck to my boy Ignacio Lahala.

804
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 4: He'll get it back in only a matter of days.

805
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 4: Team Muhammad. Yeahia Rodriguez is out there. This is huge

806
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 4: for Nacho.

807
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 3: John.

808
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 4: You always talk about a two year setback, forget that

809
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: he's not quite in the title picture yet, but this

810
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 4: either puts him in perhaps a title conversation or keeps

811
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 4: him out of the ranking. So rafaelfaz the Eve a dangerous,

812
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 4: hungry fighter on a losing streak. But Nacho, I've seen

813
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 4: him go from boy to man. Let's go, kid, that's it.

814
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 4: That's a great way to put it, all right, Jason

815
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 4: at Boston, Anna, thank you, buddy Ray. It is interesting

816
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 4: Ignacio bob Mondez beats Jalen Turner in the manner in

817
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 4: which he does right and then like loses his ranking

818
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 4: to Joel Albarez, who was maybe elevated because he was

819
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 4: gonna compete and then didn't like what.

820
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 10: Yeah, no, no clue, no clue.

821
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: What does it make it anyway?

822
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 10: Right? Because that kid's really good? I like Ignacio, It's

823
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 10: going to be a really good fight.

824
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 4: M And someone would say it's neither here nor there,

825
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 4: But just like, what what exactly would you say you

826
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 4: do here? My god? All right, kamar ousman Ray, to

827
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 4: what extent did he maybe even exceed your expectations in

828
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 4: terms of either turning back the clock or turning into

829
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 4: performance like that against uh, you know a guy that's

830
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 4: got all the hunger and the drive in the world

831
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 4: right now in his prime to try.

832
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: To beat him.

833
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 10: Oh, exceeded it by a lot. I thought the guy

834
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 10: looked great. H you know, his shots looked good, his

835
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 10: control was good for a guy thirty eight who they

836
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 10: said had n problems. I've seen what that looks like.

837
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 10: It doesn't look like that, you know what I mean.

838
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 10: So I think he did really, really good. Definitely warrior mentality,

839
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 10: used his experience and you know, even in the last

840
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 10: round when the guy was chased him around, he had

841
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 10: the experience to weather whatever little storm the guy brought

842
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 10: and did what just a great fight for him. I

843
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 10: thought it was either going to go that way or

844
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 10: the guy would it would be the other way. It

845
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 10: was just his time that he's just getting older and

846
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 10: it wasn't going to look good. But he looked. He

847
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 10: exceeded my expectations. I thought he did good. I thought

848
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 10: he would win, but he did way better than I thought.

849
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 10: He looked. He looked fantastic.

850
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 3: Really yeah, he was moving.

851
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 6: He was moving great, right, I mean, he looked like

852
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 6: he was younger and just fresher, and is this here's

853
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 6: a guy that can get the belt back. I mean,

854
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 6: he's he's talking like he's gonna win the welterweight belt

855
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 6: and then go up the middleweight.

856
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 3: When that I mean, based on that.

857
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 6: Performance, uh, didn't look didn't look too shabby man.

858
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 10: You know, I'll tell you. I think for him, it's

859
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 10: gonna be getting through the training camps at this point

860
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 10: at thirty eight, looking at thirty nine, I mean, that's

861
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 10: gonna be the tough part is navigating at finding that

862
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 10: right spot. He can't be like he was when he

863
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 10: was twenty nine or twenty eight, you know what I mean.

864
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 10: So that's uh, I think that's the problem. But he's

865
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 10: definitely got a lot of good fights in him. He

866
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 10: proved it championship. Like again, I think it's just getting

867
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Speaker 10: him through the camps healthy. And I think I don't know.

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Speaker 10: I mean, he did look good against Hamsatto. He might

869
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Speaker 10: be a different cat, this guy, like he might de

870
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Speaker 10: fight the odds of getting older, but he definitely showed

871
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Speaker 10: he could do it. I just think, you know the

872
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Speaker 10: other problems of you know, how many injections did take

873
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Speaker 10: them to get to that out the gun? You know

874
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Speaker 10: what I mean, you don't know what's going on. So

875
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Speaker 10: to me, I think when you get older like that

876
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 10: thirty eight, thirty nine, forty, that training tamp becomes critical,

877
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Speaker 10: finding the right recipe to maximize your tools.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate everybody joining us live on the Anakin Florin Podcast

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00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 4: is the Ray Longo Minute, heard every Monday for the

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Speaker 4: last ten years successively. At eisode five point fifty five today, Ray,

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00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 4: So we talked a little bit about dirty boxing, which

882
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 4: I think is an interesting rule set, and they have

883
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 4: some momentum right now, but we were about to get

884
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Speaker 4: into a conversation about one of the all time greats

885
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 4: for me man or woman, thug Rose nama Unus. Yeah.

886
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 4: You know, oftentimes we talk about mixed martial arts. Kenny

887
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 4: and I do as the Hunger Games, and I thought

888
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 4: it was interesting this Peruvian flyweight Jose o Choa, and

889
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 4: I think Stephen wonder Boy Thompson on the post fight

890
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 4: Shoe mentioned the word bravery, right, which can be so

891
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 4: critical in combat if you have the bravery. And maybe

892
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 4: it's easier flyway to have bravery than at one hundred

893
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 4: and eighty five pounds, but I just think Rose is brave,

894
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 4: She's hungry, she has found herself mentally, spiritually, physically, and

895
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 4: you know, anytime there is a sort of challenge, right

896
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 4: that is below the championship level, I just think she

897
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 4: passes it with flying colors. This one had its own

898
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 4: wrinkle with a former teammate of several years and all

899
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Speaker 4: hail thug Rose. I can't wait to see her aducted

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00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 4: into the Hall of Fame. But she might not be

901
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 4: done chasing UFC Golgious yet.

902
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 10: Yeah. See, she looks like she's still peppi and got

903
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 10: a lot, you know, even her decisions of fight. IQ

904
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 10: was really really good in this fight. But I mean

905
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 10: all I thought Miranda Maverick, I thought it was a

906
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 10: great fight, very close fight, great really right, But you know, again,

907
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 10: the experience, you know, it came down to Rose. And

908
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 10: what Rose said I do believe is pretty accurate. She

909
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 10: took way more chances than she did in' sparring. So

910
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 10: that's a good sign for Miranda because she was she

911
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 10: brought it, you know what I mean. So yeah, but Rose, man,

912
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 10: come on, think of the experience she's gotten, the people

913
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 10: she's fought, So I think girls are a little different.

914
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 10: She looked she looked really good to me, whereas Usman

915
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 10: looked great. I think better than Lake even Volkanowski, did

916
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Speaker 10: you know, because both look great too, but you could

917
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 10: see this it's coming, like you know what I mean?

918
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Speaker 10: So I think Uzman did a great job with that,

919
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 10: but rose to me Man, she fought a really good

920
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 10: three round fight against a tough girl.

921
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Speaker 4: So I would imagine some part of promoting at the

922
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Speaker 4: championship level centers around a conversation as to which fighter

923
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Speaker 4: as the champion would make the most money in that division.

924
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 4: And this women's flyweight division is absolutely fascinating, right, you

925
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 4: have a fighter like Jasmine jazzdavisiis who I think can

926
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Speaker 4: be world champion even though she got a light star.

927
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Speaker 4: But I listen, I think she could be champion in

928
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 4: this division.

929
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Speaker 10: If she gets the.

930
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Speaker 4: Right And in Canada, right, they go mad up there

931
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 4: for commentators, never mind fighters. Right, So the appetite, it's

932
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Speaker 4: all been embedded by George Saint Pierre is healthy. So

933
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Speaker 4: the Valentina Shevchenko's the champion promotionally, if I'm the guy,

934
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Speaker 4: and it's the Anak and Florian Fighting Championships which will

935
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Speaker 4: be launched soon. You know we're going chev Chanko versus

936
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Speaker 4: jongwe league. But now you have you know, a true

937
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Speaker 4: number one contender in Natalia Silva. You have Thug Rose,

938
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Speaker 4: Nama Units and then of course the aforementioned Jasmine Jazz divisiist.

939
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Speaker 4: So I would pose the question to both of you.

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Speaker 4: You know, Rose says she's ready to fight Valentina for

941
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Speaker 4: the belt if she's afforded the opportunity. I don't know

942
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Speaker 4: which fighter is champion makes the most money for this division,

943
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 4: but a lot of different opportunities at twenty five, Ray,

944
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 4: what are your thoughts on all that?

945
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think, uh that you just mentioned. Man, you

946
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 10: got a lot of good fights in those five people,

947
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Speaker 10: but that Natalia Silva looks like a handful because of

948
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Speaker 10: the movement and the way she throws those kicks, and

949
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Speaker 10: she's young. I think she's the girl to watch. She

950
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 10: looks like she's got good takedown defense, she can keep

951
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Speaker 10: the fight where she wants it.

952
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Speaker 2: Uh.

953
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, that they're all good fights, you know, ken Rose's

954
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 10: footwork offset her footwork with the kicks. I don't know.

955
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Speaker 10: I mean, i'd love to see that fight, though, I'd

956
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Speaker 10: love to see I think the White Wayley and h

957
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 10: Schifshenko has to happen. Though, I think that that still

958
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 10: is the fight to make Yeah, and then then after that,

959
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 10: take any one of those girls and I agree. I

960
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 10: totally agree with Jasmine. Man, she looks like she's on

961
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 10: a great trajectory, very confident. Uh, scrappy, nasty, you know

962
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 10: what I mean. Nice girl, she's in there. I like her. Man.

963
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Speaker 10: That's five good people right there. Mix and match and

964
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Speaker 10: you have a great fight anywhere.

965
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Speaker 4: Ken So, Jean way Lee is an absolute wrecking ball.

966
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 4: She deserves to fight to become a simultaneous double champion.

967
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Speaker 4: I think we're probably aligned on that. But what are

968
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 4: your thoughts on this women's flyway division. It's crazy to

969
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 4: think back to Nico Montango and now to think about

970
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 4: this division being in the best place that it has

971
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Speaker 4: ever been.

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00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, the sport has evolved so much, especially in regards

973
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 6: to the women's Big Martial Arts.

974
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: The levels getting better every year, and I think I

975
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 3: know where you're going with this.

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Speaker 6: First of all, Natalia Silva, she's the logical choice to

977
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Speaker 6: be the next challenger based on what she has done

978
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Speaker 6: and based on what she can do. She is an

979
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Speaker 6: elite striker truly in every aspect. John So, I think

980
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 6: she could be not only a champion in that division,

981
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Speaker 6: but someone who could hold a belt for a long time.

982
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 6: But when you're talking about two faces on the poster,

983
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 6: and sometimes it's just that obvious and that easy. As

984
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 6: far as what fight you're gonna make and who's gonna

985
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 6: bring in the most money, Rose nami Unis is the

986
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 6: one if she gets another win, potentially maybe not even

987
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 6: get another win, uh and just sticks around. That's a

988
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 6: fight that could potentially happen. Why because it comes down

989
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 6: to business and what's going to bring in the most

990
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 6: amount of eyeballs to to that next fight. So if

991
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 6: Natalia Silva is injured or for whatever reason it was

992
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 6: something happens, I think that Rose no Munis just put

993
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 6: herself in a very good spot to maybe be uh,

994
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 6: you know, another another challenger for that belt.

995
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 10: I mean, do you think Rose is the biggest draw

996
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 10: out of all those people?

997
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: I think, without a doubt.

998
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 10: Oh wow, I would have.

999
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 4: I don't know, well.

1000
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, no, I mean Valentine. I mean, if Valentina

1001
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 6: has the belt, and of.

1002
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 4: Course right talking about challengers, right, so I don't know,

1003
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 4: I don't know, But who is a bigger pay per

1004
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 4: view draw Valentina, Chefchenko or jeanwae Lee for example, Like

1005
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 4: I forgive my ignorance. I don't know, right, people want

1006
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 4: to talk to me about needle movers and television ratings

1007
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 4: and I'm just calling the fights. I don't know.

1008
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm just saying because you don't know what the

1009
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 10: Chinese market or the rushing marks like, I don't you

1010
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 10: know what I mean, that's what we don't know. I mean,

1011
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 10: we can get risk over here, but whatever.

1012
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 4: But you know, Mains Barber is still an absolute beast,

1013
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 4: right and Aaron Blanchfield, of course, factors in this so

1014
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 4: good times.

1015
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 10: Yeah that the vision is really I forgot about them.

1016
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 4: But you know, like we can stay without a shadow

1017
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 4: of a doubt. The Jack Dela Madelena being the champion

1018
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 4: in Australia is good for business, right, yeah, we can

1019
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 4: think Are Pantosi would probably be good for business. No,

1020
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 4: I think it would. The appetite for mixed martial arts

1021
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 4: in Australia right now is insatiable. It is peaking. I

1022
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 4: don't know that it could be any more so. So yeah,

1023
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 4: it's an interesting conversation, it really is. But I do

1024
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 4: think they'll do Valentina Shipchanko versus Jong Wiley, but all

1025
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 4: hail rose Man it's just so much respect for the

1026
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 4: career and the performance, right and you know, finding a

1027
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 4: very hungry uh Miranda Mavericks. So all right, a few

1028
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 4: more minutes here with ray Longo before we let you go.

1029
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 4: What time's your flight, Raymond?

1030
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 10: It's like five o'clock.

1031
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 4: Oh okay, so you got a little bit of time.

1032
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 10: You know.

1033
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 4: I'm glad that the women's flyweight conversation and if you

1034
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 4: could reframe from calling girls in the future, we'd appreciate that.

1035
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 4: But I'm glad. I'm glad the women's flyweight conversation seemed to,

1036
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 4: you know, maybe perk you up a little bit, because

1037
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 4: I feel like I've been where you are right now,

1038
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 4: sitting on an itinerary to Perth, Western Australia.

1039
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, no, no, no, what about hill On before we go?

1040
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 10: What about the guy that got up picked by Craig?

1041
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 10: Can we talk about that?

1042
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:43,479
Speaker 6: Yes?

1043
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 10: Please?

1044
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 4: So let me set it up first and then I

1045
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 4: would lay out because some of our listenership and viewership

1046
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 4: maybe did not see the featured prelim Paul barred Jew

1047
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 4: Craig lands an illegal upkit upkick on hudelfo Blato and

1048
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 4: Blatto initially protests to the referee and then in a

1049
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 4: very theatrical way, acted maybe or really was hurt. I

1050
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 4: don't know, But Ray, what were your thoughts on Billado's

1051
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 4: reaction and the ultimate no contest?

1052
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 10: It is a lot. I think there's a lot going

1053
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 10: on here, but I'm gonna I'm actually I'm going to

1054
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 10: defend the guy, all right, he gets up kicked. It's

1055
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 10: really confusing because there's a lot of things that happened

1056
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 10: that we haven't seen, but a lot that happened that

1057
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 10: we have seen. And we do know that guys when

1058
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 10: they go out, they're still move and they still think

1059
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 10: they're using their guard. They're wrestling with the referee, So

1060
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 10: it is he's in the realm of that. But what

1061
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 10: I think happened, which no, I don't think anybody said yet,

1062
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 10: is that when he got up kicked, he looked at

1063
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 10: the ref like what the fuck? And then his head

1064
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 10: bounced off the canvas and it was like second impact syndrome,

1065
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 10: and he went out and he started he didn't know

1066
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 10: where he was. He started crawling to the fence. I mean,

1067
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 10: the weirdness is that he did look at the ref

1068
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 10: like to say, that's what everybody's keying in on like

1069
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 10: he bitched at first, right, I think the second that's

1070
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 10: this is why, Kenny, I tell my guys, you get

1071
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 10: a guy hurt like that, let him out. That second

1072
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 10: and third shot is actually gonna kill him. Like you

1073
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 10: let the guy recover it down there. You know, that's

1074
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 10: a perfect example. That guy got hit and then he

1075
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 10: went to bitch. His head hit the canvas. That's the

1076
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 10: second shot, and he's I think he was out. I don't.

1077
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Speaker 10: I don't think your brain can you bring yeah that

1078
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Speaker 10: quick where you look at a ref and and you

1079
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 10: make the decision. I'm gonna act. This is like a

1080
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 10: split second. If he could do that, I give him

1081
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 10: a lot of credit. I don't think he could do

1082
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 10: what I think. I think it was that second impact,

1083
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 10: whatever the hell they call it. His head bounced off

1084
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 10: the canvas. Yeah, and then he did what we saw.

1085
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 10: Look at Shane Burgos. He got hit. Three seconds he's out.

1086
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 10: Nobody knew what the hell that was.

1087
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Edson Barboza, Kenny, So see what we're did you

1088
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 4: see what we're talking about? Ken Flop? Yes, sir, let

1089
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 4: me just read you if things real quick, So Joe

1090
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 4: Rogan in a text thread, with me, and Daniel Cormier

1091
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 4: sent me this quote from Anthony Lyonhartsmith on the Postfight

1092
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 4: Show about this. You see his eyes come to the

1093
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 4: referee to protest, and then realizes maybe I can get

1094
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 4: a free win, lays there, pretends he's unconscious, jolts back awake.

1095
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 4: Allegedly the referee comes over. This is a man that

1096
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 4: is awake, pretends to grapple the referee as if he's unconscious,

1097
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 4: trying to get a cheap win. I've been doing this

1098
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 4: a long time, and I know what it looks like

1099
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 4: when somebody is faking it, right, So Rogan then wrote,

1100
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 4: and I'm peeling back to Curtin, I guess a little bit.

1101
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 4: Did you guys see this last night? I wasn't sure

1102
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 4: what was going on, a lot of people think he

1103
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 4: was faking it, but I felt like he genuinely got

1104
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 4: fucked up. Right. Then I wrote, I saw it. Still

1105
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 4: can't be sure, but I'm with you. I don't think

1106
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 4: he would have nor could have acted to this extent

1107
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 4: if he wasn't genuinely hurt. And then DC wrote that

1108
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 4: he thought he was hurt, but the more he saw it,

1109
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 4: as was with most things, your mind starts to mess

1110
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 4: with you, and I think there is a little bit

1111
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 4: of that that our minds are starting to mess with

1112
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 4: us a little bit. But ken Flow, this is thespian

1113
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 4: on like a whole news acting to this extent. Yeah,

1114
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 4: he might he maybe should be cut.

1115
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 10: Listen, in a split second, can you brain work like that?

1116
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 10: You think? I don't think so, I'll say this, So

1117
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 10: in a split second, he looked at the ref pitched

1118
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 10: and then started. I mean like that was really quick.

1119
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 10: But if you look, his head bounces off the canvas.

1120
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 10: That's where the second shot comes in that I don't

1121
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 10: think anybody's mentioned, and that's what put him out. I

1122
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 10: think that's what I'm going with.

1123
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 6: Okay, and we also need to kind of go back

1124
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 6: and look at what has been a consistent level of

1125
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 6: character or maybe certain personality traits of the fighter in question. Right,

1126
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,479
Speaker 6: is Bloto a guy who has been known to quit.

1127
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 6: Have you guys seen his fights? He's been He's been

1128
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 6: on the brink of getting knocked out and come back

1129
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 6: in some of the most insane ways in the UFC.

1130
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 6: Look at every single one of his fights. Are we

1131
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 6: saying this is a guy first of all, any guy

1132
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 6: in the UFC, who is going to quit? And then

1133
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 6: let's look at Bilotto's past fight. Has he pass fights?

1134
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 6: Has he ever shown that he is a dude who

1135
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 6: is going to take the easy way out? No, in

1136
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 6: my opinion, absolutely not. And listen, the brain is a

1137
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 6: funny thing. It's not meant to get hit, and when

1138
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 6: it gets hit, it does some freaking weird things that maybe.

1139
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 3: Don't make sense. We've seen so many times guys go.

1140
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 6: I'm fine, push the referee off of them, get up,

1141
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 6: and now they're stepping in potholes and they can't even

1142
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 6: hold themselves up because they think they're perfectly fine. Right,

1143
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 6: So it's like you can think, hey, he's on the ground.

1144
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 6: At no point did he even try to get up,

1145
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 6: and all these things. So again it's it's odd and

1146
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 6: and you know there is like your body that wants.

1147
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 3: To continue fighting.

1148
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 6: You know, there's like the stress of like getting hit

1149
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 6: and being in a fight, and then there's the brain

1150
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 6: which is also trying to function while it's being short

1151
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 6: circuited by a shot on bottom.

1152
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 3: So again, you know it's tough.

1153
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 6: And why can't we also mention that that was an

1154
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 6: illegal blow after all?

1155
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 10: Yeah? Right, what are we talking about that it was illegal,

1156
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 10: horrible shot.

1157
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:13,959
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1158
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 3: And the same thing with Al Joe.

1159
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 6: Remember, I mean everything, yes, year to part Al Joe

1160
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 6: because like they couldn't possibly comprehend that he was hit

1161
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 6: from he was hurt from a shot, just like It's like, guys,

1162
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 6: it was an illegal blow. At the end of the day,

1163
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 6: Paul Craig was the guy that screwed up, and nobody's

1164
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 6: mad at Paul Craig. It's like, you guys want to

1165
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 6: satisfy your bloodthirst with.

1166
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 3: The continuation of a fight.

1167
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 6: Uh, you know, because some other guy threw an illegal kick. Okay,

1168
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 6: But anyway, so that's my take on it. I think that,

1169
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 6: you know, Anthony Smith is open. You know, he's definitely

1170
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 6: you know, he's got a strong opinion on things, and

1171
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 6: it is possible, it is absolutely possible that's what happened. However,

1172
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 6: based on what I've seen from Blotto, based on kind

1173
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 6: of you know, I would give him the benefit of

1174
00:54:58,320 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 6: the doubt.

1175
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 10: And I think any based on what you're saying, I

1176
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 10: think now he wasn't faking it because he has taken

1177
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 10: a lot of shots in the pis my game. It's

1178
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 10: only a matter of time till that, you know, neuroplasticity

1179
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 10: changes in his brain. I mean, it's scary, and that

1180
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 10: that shot was vicious that fight. You know what, at

1181
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 10: that time, the fight should be over. You're gonna make

1182
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 10: a guy recover from that and have to go out

1183
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 10: and how good?

1184
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 4: Right?

1185
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1186
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 2: Right?

1187
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 10: You know what I mean, John, Like you want to

1188
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 10: start a sparring session, get down on your knees. I'm

1189
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 10: gonna boot you as hard as I can in the face,

1190
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 10: and then get up and finished around. I don't know, man,

1191
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 10: that's yeah, that's asking a lot.

1192
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 7: That was a shot.

1193
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 3: Name go ahead.

1194
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, and you know, whether upkicks should

1195
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 6: be legal or not, I think that's that's another question altogether.

1196
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 3: I actually gotta think they should.

1197
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 6: But a rule is a rule, and you gotta, you know,

1198
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 6: you got to respect it. And uh, that's just what happened.

1199
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 4: Man, Juliana Penya Kayla Harrison. Right, it was a quick

1200
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 4: point taken away from Julian A. Penia. I actually, maybe

1201
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 4: in the minority, thought that that was just I agree

1202
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 4: that they should be legal, but Kenny, just what a

1203
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 4: great point to actually inject Blotto's fighting history into the conversation.

1204
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 4: You know, You're a lot of depth to your thought

1205
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 4: and we appreciate you bringing that to the podcast today,

1206
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 4: of course. And Anthony Smith is one of my favorite colleagues,

1207
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 4: certainly of NATed variety. Right, But I do think that

1208
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 4: upon further review, I look forward to having a conversation

1209
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 4: with lying hard about this. But yeah, man, it's like,

1210
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 4: what does a win by DQ do for Blotto other

1211
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 4: than double his paycheck?

1212
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 7: Right?

1213
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 4: Like, the guy's trying to become a champion, and if

1214
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 4: this was indeed concussive damage, that is not anything that's

1215
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 4: going to help that initiative. So, Ray, if I was

1216
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 4: flying to bakuaser Baijan and someone tried to be like,

1217
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 4: you know, would you rather be physically strong? You know,

1218
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 4: like if I'm flying to Perth, then someone's like, hey,

1219
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 4: you got time for a few would you rather I'd

1220
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 4: be like, you can fuck right off. I'm about to

1221
00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 4: go on a thirty seven hour trip, right, how do

1222
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 4: you feel about it? Sil before you go wheels out?

1223
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 10: What time is it?

1224
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 4: It's eleven fifty seven, Give me two, okay? Would you

1225
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 4: rather lose the ability to cry? Or cry every day

1226
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 4: for twenty minutes randomly so you're holding pads. You know,

1227
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 4: you're working out, all of a sudden, you're fucking crying

1228
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 4: like you're watching a romantic comedy or something.

1229
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 10: I'd rather lose the ability to cry, of.

1230
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 4: Course you would. When was the last time you cried?

1231
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 10: Oh? I might be crying to twenty minutes a day.

1232
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 10: I might really be doing that.

1233
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 4: You may cry on you may cry in the airport.

1234
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting to see Kamar Usman be so

1235
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 4: emotional and say he said that, maybe you know I'm

1236
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 4: a girl dad, and it's like, bro, you're just a dad.

1237
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 4: Like I'm telling you, I didn't cry for ten years

1238
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 4: once I had kids. Someone else's kid like hula hoops.

1239
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 4: Well I'm fucking crying.

1240
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 10: I got it. You got another like four or five years,

1241
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 10: You'll be crying a lot. I always tell you that.

1242
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 10: I'm telling I remember Sarah calling me up. He goes, dude,

1243
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 10: I'm like like watching a movie. I started like, I go, dude,

1244
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 10: that happens.

1245
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 4: I just sit there like maybe at this point, you know, okay, I.

1246
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 10: I got I don't know what happens man. I swear

1247
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 10: to god, I don't know when, but it's in your

1248
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 10: forties towards the end and then you have to come

1249
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 10: up with different ways of disguise and how to wipe

1250
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 10: your tears away. So nobody knows your Brian and your family.

1251
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 10: Yeah they don't, you big baby.

1252
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you just start wearing sunglasses indoors and people

1253
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 4: are like, you look like a fool, and it's like, yeah, well,

1254
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 4: don't be crying and.

1255
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, normally before the movie, just start saying how bad

1256
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 10: my allergies are, just in case anything happens.

1257
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, anybody got a clarenon over there? All right?

1258
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 4: Right before we let you go? Would you rather your

1259
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 4: only mode of transportation be a donkey or a giraffe?

1260
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 10: Is it supposed to be? I'm in there, so I'll

1261
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 10: take the donkey. I don't know, I'll take a donkey.

1262
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 4: They look like getting on a giraffe every time seems

1263
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 4: like a real.

1264
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 10: Hassle, bespectaclely Yeah, I feel like don Quixote on a donkey.

1265
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 10: I'll take Yeah.

1266
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 4: You know what else?

1267
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 10: Is that a couple of windmills?

1268
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 7: You know?

1269
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 10: Hey?

1270
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 3: Ray?

1271
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, we wish you all the best in Baku Azerbaijohn.

1272
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 10: Are you telling me you're not going to be there?

1273
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 4: I am not going there. I got the usc Hall

1274
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 4: of Fame induction ceremony coming up in about ten days

1275
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 4: and UFC three seventeen, So, uh.

1276
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 10: Can you put in a good word for my award?

1277
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 4: I certainly will, and uh we'll see if you guys

1278
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 4: can hold serve as a minus four fifty five or

1279
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 4: so betting favorite against Nicholas Motave. My goodness, right, A

1280
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 4: lot of pressure on Gue.

1281
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 10: Jeans nonas is good man, this kid, I mean, you

1282
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 10: can't get you can't get into like a firefight with him,

1283
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 10: which you know now is every so often likes to

1284
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 10: do just to prove how tough he is. I guess, yeah,

1285
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 10: but he likes to pocket fighting. But if he keeps

1286
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 10: him at distance, he's going to pick him apart for sure. Yeah.

1287
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 4: No, Nas talks like Morob and blal that he's going

1288
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 4: to be a future champion.

1289
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 10: Just wait to see it. Yeah yeah, all.

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Speaker 4: I mean just building up the whole room as he

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Speaker 4: enters UFC Bantamweight on the Rise after a massive weekend.

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Speaker 4: Malcolm well Maker is with us Augusta George's own my man,

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Speaker 4: congratulations on a massive result this weekend, John Ana, Kenny

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Speaker 4: Floory and I think meeting you for the first time.

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Speaker 4: Great to see you, brother. How we feeling, uh feeling incredible?

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Speaker 11: Man?

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Speaker 12: I was already you know, doing pretty good off of

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Speaker 12: my Kansas City win. And after this one, man, everything

1338
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Speaker 12: is even better.

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Speaker 4: So you have handled yourself so well professionally inside and

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01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 4: outside of the octagon, and I'm excited to get the

1341
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Speaker 4: chance to work one of your fights. But my goodness, bro,

1342
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Speaker 4: and you said this in your post fight interview after

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Speaker 4: the fact with Charlie Arnolds, I believe. But Chris Mautino

1344
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 4: has a legendary chin, and he actually, upon further review,

1345
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Speaker 4: even seemed like he might have braced for a split second.

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Speaker 4: Your right hand is something that this division is probably

1347
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 4: gonna have to deal with at the higher level at

1348
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Speaker 4: some point in time. What was that moment like for

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Speaker 4: you to do it, you know, one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 4: miles or so from home.

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Speaker 12: Oh man, From the moment I walked out, you know,

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Speaker 12: I had a real good song, the crowd was in

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Speaker 12: tune with and the energy was just crazy.

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Speaker 7: You know, even before I walked when.

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Speaker 12: I was in the tunnel and they pulled the curtains, man,

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Speaker 12: the fans.

1357
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Speaker 7: Were like shaking the rails and you know, going wild.

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Speaker 12: So it was from the moment I walked out to

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Speaker 12: when I got in there and every shot I put

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Speaker 12: on them, it.

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Speaker 7: Was just absolutely electric.

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Speaker 12: Man, it was incredible, and it felt like fighting on

1363
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Speaker 12: the regional scene back before I got to the UFC,

1364
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Speaker 12: but just times one hundred, it was it was insane.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Are you able to control that and kind of take

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Speaker 6: that in, you know, fighting in the UFC and kind

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Speaker 6: of comparing it to kind of some past experiences coming

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Speaker 6: up on the regional scene.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Man, you know I fought locally as a main event

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Speaker 12: quite a couple of times. You know, I always had

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Speaker 12: a lot of local support, so I'm used to you

1374
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Speaker 12: know a lot of people come in to show me

1375
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Speaker 12: love and having that pressure of performing for people down

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Speaker 12: know personally. But you know, when I go into the

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Speaker 12: cage and the bell rings, man, I just I just

1378
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Speaker 12: get into a kill, mo.

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Speaker 7: And it's always been the same.

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Speaker 6: How much were you watching other guys in the division

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Speaker 6: and maybe preparing for other guys that you could fight

1382
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Speaker 6: all the time?

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Speaker 12: Every UFC event there is, if there's a bannaweight fight

1384
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Speaker 12: on it, I'm usually watching them, and nowadays, you know,

1385
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Speaker 12: I have that perspective of them being possible competition.

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Speaker 4: So you're thirty one years of age, right, so maybe

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Speaker 4: eight or nine years or so into this thing relative

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Speaker 4: to your expectations have you exceeded them. You're an undefeated fighter,

1389
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Speaker 4: but you have resonated with the fans in a way

1390
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Speaker 4: that few fighters do this early into their UFC careers.

1391
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Speaker 4: So where are you relative to what maybe your timeline

1392
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 4: was to get to this point your career.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, it depends on what point of my career.

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Speaker 12: You asked me what my expectation was, because when I

1395
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 12: first started, you know, I never even planned on competing

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Speaker 12: at all. And then when I started, you know, competing

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Speaker 12: as an amateur and getting belts, then I started thinking

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Speaker 12: maybe I could go pro. And then when I got

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Speaker 12: the opportunity to fight for Hory Mospital is when I

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Speaker 12: finally started to believe I could make it to the UFC. So,

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01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 12: you know, my expectation for myself has been relative to

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Speaker 12: the amount of success that I've achieved throughout the.

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Speaker 7: Course of my career.

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Speaker 12: You know, I've just always consistently worked hard. My coaches

1405
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 12: have always believed that I could go really far in

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Speaker 12: this game. But my expectations now, you know, obviously, are

1407
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Speaker 12: to try to climb to the top of the division

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Speaker 12: and you know, really make some noise. So every time

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Speaker 12: I compete, to be honest, man, I'm blowing the expectations

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Speaker 12: that I have for myself out.

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Speaker 4: Of the water. UFC pandam Waite Malcolm well Maker joining

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Speaker 4: us live here on the Ankin Forlorn podcast. You can

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Speaker 4: follow this man at Wall of the Machine. So what

1414
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 4: was your athletic background, like in terms of high school?

1415
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 4: Where you doing martial arts? What were you doing?

1416
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 7: I was playing drums in high school and I was

1417
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 7: making beats.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: The only sports background I had was like little league basketball,

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Speaker 12: and I stopped when I was like ten years old,

1421
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 12: and I.

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01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 7: Was a benchwarmer, Like I wasn't even that good. So

1423
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 7: no wrestling, no boxing, not even karate classes or anything.

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01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 12: Man, I didn't take my first actual combat sports, you know,

1425
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 12: or even competitive kind of sports training until I met

1426
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 12: the guys that fag was in MMA.

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Speaker 4: So it sounds like you have had a coach or

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01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 4: two or maybe three that really believed in you. Who

1429
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 4: are the man behind the man.

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Speaker 12: It's the Fagular family. So you got Pops who was like,

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01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 12: you know, the og. He did the Kempo karate, you know,

1432
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 12: fought and geeze and like these free for all tournaments,

1433
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 12: crazy stuff. And he raised his sons, Jake and Joel,

1434
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 12: who also went on to compete in MMA obviously in

1435
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 12: the more modern era, and those three and Jake, Joel

1436
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 12: and Pops are like brothers and a father to me.

1437
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 12: You know, I always compare my relationship with Pops like

1438
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 12: custom model on Mike Tyson. I came from a very

1439
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 12: spotty background. You know, I got in a lot of

1440
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 12: trouble as a kid. I didn't really have a lot

1441
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 12: of self belief. And when Pops met me, you know,

1442
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 12: he saw this little fire in me, and he kept convincing.

1443
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 8: Me like, you could be like this guy.

1444
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 7: You could be like that guy. You can do this

1445
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 7: and do that, and over time, man, it came true.

1446
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Speaker 3: Go ahead, Okay.

1447
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 6: I wanted to ask about that right hook, man, because

1448
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 6: you know, it's rare that you see in a knockout

1449
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 6: that is actually scary, and.

1450
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 3: To see it in the pantomweight division is just insane.

1451
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 2: Dude.

1452
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 3: I'm still shocked and horrified. But this is what the

1453
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 3: third one in a row now with that right hand.

1454
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 6: Is this something you've been developing and you kind of know, like, hey,

1455
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 6: by letting this right hook, people are in trouble.

1456
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 3: Or is this taking you by surprise?

1457
01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 13: Yeah, to be honest, It's a tool that's been reliable

1458
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 13: for me in the past, but it's not been something

1459
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 13: that I always was like, if I land this shot,

1460
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 13: I know they're going to sleep.

1461
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 7: You know. For a while, it was you know, my

1462
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 7: straight left from south Fall.

1463
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 12: For a while it was an uppercut, and the right

1464
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 12: hook has always been in that, in that in that bag.

1465
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 7: But now I'm starting to convince myself that it is

1466
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 7: the death shot.

1467
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 4: So on the post fight show, Anthony Lyonheart Smith and

1468
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 4: Stephen Warner Boy Thompson were sort of talking about you

1469
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 4: and I think your relative likability and how happy they

1470
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 4: were for you to have this moment walking out of

1471
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:38,839
Speaker 4: the octagon in Georgia, and Kenny has had these moments.

1472
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 4: I have not had these moments before. But to be

1473
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 4: able to, i mean, knock a motherfucker out with a

1474
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 4: right hook like that and then walk out of the

1475
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 4: octagon with the adoring fans, Like Anthony Smith was saying,

1476
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 4: he's been there and he feels so good that you

1477
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 4: were able to experience that moment. I'm not sure if

1478
01:08:58,160 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 4: you were able to sort of take a moment and

1479
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 4: enjoy the fruits. But what was it like to go

1480
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 4: you know, nearly fatalize a man and then walk out

1481
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 4: with your fans. It was like a party, man.

1482
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 12: I mean, you know, I was jumping, I was dancing,

1483
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 12: I was touching hands, and as the tunnel was going higher,

1484
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 12: as I was walking back, I was jumping up to

1485
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 12: try to touch more people's hands.

1486
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 7: It's special. And even this time it was a girl

1487
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 7: who grabbed my lorm and she didn't want to let

1488
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 7: me go. So I'm like, that was the first time

1489
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 7: that happens. The next time, I'm gonna be a little bit,

1490
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 7: you know, shot with the touches. But oh man, it

1491
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 7: was incredible. It was it was like a movie.

1492
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 3: Man, you gotta be careful as a fighter. Some girls

1493
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 3: won't let go.

1494
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 12: Bro.

1495
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 7: Yeah she went, she went hard.

1496
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Speaker 4: I'm like security, like, come on now, yeah, where are you?

1497
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 4: So as you sort of spin it forward when it

1498
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 4: comes to your career, it seems to me like maybe

1499
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 4: you're not the calling out type, more in trusting the UFC,

1500
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 4: at least right now, to give you the right matchups

1501
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 4: as you try to propel your career forward, but at

1502
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 4: least in terms of a timeline, maybe as you look

1503
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 4: ahead to main event down the line, fighting twenty five minutes.

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01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 4: How soon, I mean, not a scratch on you. How

1505
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 4: soon might we see you back in there? And you know,

1506
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 4: are you thinking like top twenty five level competition at

1507
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 4: this point in time or what?

1508
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1509
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 12: Man, I like fighting, you know, I like to stay

1510
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 12: consistent in my competition, So as soon as something comes

1511
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 12: across that makes sense.

1512
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 7: I would love to get back in there.

1513
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,600
Speaker 12: So hopefully within the next two to three months I

1514
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 12: get a good opportunity to go in there and climb

1515
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 12: up the ranks as.

1516
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 7: Far as how high I believe I'm prepared for.

1517
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 12: That type of competition, but obviously it's up to my

1518
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 12: coaches and up to my management to make sure that

1519
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 12: the right move is made. And I think, obviously too,

1520
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 12: with fighting consistently, I don't have to jump ranks extremely

1521
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:47,799
Speaker 12: fast as long as I'm moving in the right direction.

1522
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 7: So hopefully, you know, hiring.

1523
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 12: Competition soon in the next couple months, and maybe by

1524
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 12: the end of the year or early next year, I

1525
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 12: have a rank next to my name.

1526
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,759
Speaker 4: Just a couple of minutes here with the great Malcolm

1527
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 4: well Maker joining us live on the Attic of Foreign Podcasts.

1528
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 4: So in terms of your development as a fighter, sometimes

1529
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 4: I like to talk to fighters about, you know, if

1530
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 4: they have any negative emotions when it comes to certain

1531
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 4: elements of their training or wrestling maintenance. What is the

1532
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 4: most challenging thing for you as you look at maybe

1533
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 4: a fighter like Morob Dwalla Shwilly or other different skills

1534
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,600
Speaker 4: in this division. What is the biggest developmental challenge for

1535
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 4: you as you try to get your all around game

1536
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 4: to a championship level.

1537
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1538
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:34,799
Speaker 12: I think it's obvious that my striking is my best attribute,

1539
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 12: and because of that, naturally my my grappling and wrestling

1540
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,600
Speaker 12: is going to be farther behind in the aspect of

1541
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 12: my strengths. But you know, I focus very very heavily

1542
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 12: on that, and have focused very very heavily on that

1543
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 12: with my team for a while now. Even when I

1544
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 12: was preparing for camera signmon, you know, we expected him

1545
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 12: to make it a wrestling and grappling match.

1546
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 7: So that whole camp I was mad because my count

1547
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 7: wouldn't let me strike. I came in every day and

1548
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 7: it was like Roland was wrestling. I was sick of it.

1549
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 7: So and and we're moving forward.

1550
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 12: You know, I've implemented private training sessions with grappling coaches,

1551
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 12: with wrestling coaches.

1552
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 7: So we're leaving those stone unturned.

1553
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 12: We're making sure that I'm prepared for when I get

1554
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 12: that phone call, and it's not going to be a

1555
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 12: striking match that I can.

1556
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 7: I can wrestle with these guys, grapple with you guys

1557
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 7: and make them have to strike with me.

1558
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 4: Well, we're excited to see the progression before we let

1559
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 4: you go. You know, your Instagram and x handle is

1560
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 4: Wall of the Machine. And of course this division has

1561
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,719
Speaker 4: a champion, the Machine of Rob Dwallace Willey. Like, dude,

1562
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 4: what the fuck is that guy made of? Right? Like

1563
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 4: Gabel Stevenson said, He's not a regular human right. And

1564
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 4: it's interesting because a lot of guys, Donna Cruz and

1565
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 4: Umar and her Magametov and Sean O'Malley, a lot of

1566
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 4: people are excited about the possibility of beating that man

1567
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 4: and think they have what it takes.

1568
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 10: And then.

1569
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:54,560
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, So what are your thoughts on

1570
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:58,799
Speaker 4: I'm a Rob Dwallas Willey, you know, Morab.

1571
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 12: I love that guy, you know, for many reasons, and

1572
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 12: with his last performance, I mean, he just impressed me

1573
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 12: so much because he looked better, you know, as as

1574
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 12: deep into his career as he is. Being a returning

1575
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 12: you know victor in his last fight, you expect more

1576
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 12: of a similar look. I mean, he just looked levels

1577
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 12: above what he did in the last time.

1578
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 7: And that was unfathomable to me.

1579
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 12: Obviously we shared the same fight name, both of us

1580
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 12: come from a construction background.

1581
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 4: Uh.

1582
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 7: He even congratulated me when I when I walked away

1583
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 7: from my job.

1584
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 12: So I have absolute love, respect, and admiration for somebody

1585
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 12: like him, but also seeing somebody like him keep getting

1586
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 12: better and keep putting the division on notice make somebody

1587
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 12: like me work harder because obviously one day I would

1588
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 12: love to fight somebody like him.

1589
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 7: So yeah, man, I'm watching him all the time.

1590
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 12: I'm talking to my coaches about how do you beat

1591
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 12: somebody like that?

1592
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 7: And that that uh that that that almost.

1593
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 12: Fear he puts into everybody that possibly has to fight him,

1594
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 12: you know, is something that I'm feeling and it drives

1595
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 12: me to work harder.

1596
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 4: You are well on your way, my man. I mean,

1597
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 4: you do any commentating for mixed martial arts. I mean

1598
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 4: this guy, get this guy like that?

1599
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 10: You know, not yet.

1600
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 4: Wall of the machine. If you want to follow this

1601
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 4: man Malcolm well Maker, congratulations on a big win. Very much.

1602
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 4: Appreciate your time today, sir, and hope to shake your

1603
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 4: hand at some point before the year is out.

1604
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 7: Brother, hopefully soon. Man, thank you out for having me.

1605
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:20,480
Speaker 7: I really appreciate the opportunity.

1606
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 4: He is Malcolm well Maker with us live on the

1607
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 4: anak Imploring Podcast. What an absolute stud And sometimes I

1608
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 4: just sort of want to check the professionalism for a

1609
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 4: minute and be like, Bro, can you imagine being one

1610
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty miles from your hometown and landing a

1611
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 4: shot like that? Even if you're not one hundred and

1612
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 4: fifty miles from your hometown, maybe you're in Perth and

1613
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,640
Speaker 4: you do that to someone in an enclosed space, right, Like,

1614
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 4: I'm sure it feels great in the NBA to hit

1615
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 4: a game winning three pointer or to hit a shot

1616
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 4: in the NBA finals. Can't or hit a home run?

1617
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 4: You know, maybe hitting a home run to win the

1618
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 4: World Series. But dude, ken flow right, Like.

1619
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 6: Listen, dude, every every other cool thing that you can

1620
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 6: do in sports is just an analogy for what people

1621
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 6: actually do in the UFC. Because what you're doing, you

1622
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 6: dunk over Dude, You're like, I'm better than you. I

1623
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 6: just I just I'm the bigger man right now in

1624
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 6: the UFC, you literally are saying you are the better

1625
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 6: dude by knocking a guy out, You're putting them out

1626
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 6: like that's what every kind of sports guy probably wants

1627
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 6: to do.

1628
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, just amazing to have that feeling.

1629
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 4: Dude, So John Jones choking Leoto macheetah and then just

1630
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 4: drawn ceremoniously dropping him there for his body to just

1631
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 4: cripple unconsciously to the ground. Right, who's next?

1632
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 6: He imploded a body? He imploded, He just collapsed upon itself.

1633
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:52,759
Speaker 3: Crazy.

1634
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 4: All right, thanks to Malcolm well Maker and the great

1635
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 4: ed CAP for assisting us in getting that fine young

1636
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 4: athlete live on the program today. All Right, Fellas, you

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Speaker 4: to toe with Mando. All right, Kenny, have you had

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Speaker 4: your wisdom teeth pulled? You're on mute? Hey? H do

1677
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 4: you still so you don't still have your wisdom teeth?

1678
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 4: Do you still have the you're on mute mug I

1679
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 4: gave you.

1680
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 3: I do have it. Of course I don't have it

1681
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 3: with me, but I do have.

1682
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 4: Cody says that one was on him. He muted you

1683
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 4: during my commercial spot.

1684
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 2: He did.

1685
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 6: He didn't want to hear me breathing, and sometimes people

1686
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 6: were complaining with my breathing in the background.

1687
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 4: Okay, so you've had your wisdom teeth pulled? Yes, is

1688
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 4: it bad?

1689
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:35,719
Speaker 3: It's not great?

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01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 5: You know.

1691
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 6: I I don't do well with like the sedation. I

1692
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 6: get nauseous, and I will take anything. I'll take pain

1693
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 6: over nausea. Like just like I'm being on the brink

1694
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 6: of constantly being like having to throw up or being dizzy.

1695
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 6: I do not like so that that to me is

1696
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 6: more annoying. The paint's not too bad, you know.

1697
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,679
Speaker 4: I had an infected fingernail a couple of years ago,

1698
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 4: and they put a numbing agent like a shot in

1699
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 4: my finger and I immediately went to pass out, you know.

1700
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 4: So yeah, I feel you on that, But no, I

1701
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 4: just I came across this would you rather question? Would

1702
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 4: you rather get your wisdom teeth pulled? Or your butt

1703
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 4: cheeks pierced? And so I figured I would ask someone

1704
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 4: who had their wisdom teeth pulled? Is this some brutal exercise?

1705
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 4: Because I don't know who's looking to get their butt

1706
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:24,440
Speaker 4: cheek pierced. I'm not suggesting you pierced together.

1707
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 3: But you know, what are we doing? What are we

1708
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 3: doing here? Guys?

1709
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 6: Find something else to pierce. There's a bunch of other

1710
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,640
Speaker 6: body parts you could Pierce why we dated.

1711
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 4: A woman and I broke up with her because she

1712
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 4: showed up to one of our dates, if memory serves,

1713
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 4: with three bolts pierced to the back of her neck.

1714
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 4: Three new neck piercings. Oh, and I gotta tell you,

1715
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five, I'm a little bit of a

1716
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 4: different man, you know. Yeah, I mean, I don't need

1717
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,600
Speaker 4: to see three fresh neck piercings on the back of

1718
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 4: your fucking neck with the red still off there. But

1719
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 4: I do believe that, you know, in twenty twenty five,

1720
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 4: I think I'm maybe more accepting as far as that

1721
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 4: is concerned. But the butt cheek piercing, I'm like, I'll

1722
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 4: get my fucking wisdom teeth thought, you know for sure?

1723
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 4: All Right, I have a few other things I would

1724
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 4: like to discuss with you. So I just want to say,

1725
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:12,560
Speaker 4: as I often say about John Jones, that his graciousness

1726
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 4: at events like dirty Boxing and with fans is just amazing.

1727
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 4: His presence with me in every single one of our

1728
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 4: conversations is notable and remarkable, which means the ability to

1729
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 4: remark upon it right. He is never not present, And

1730
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 4: I just want people to sort of know that in

1731
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:36,560
Speaker 4: all the noise, and with all the rage that is

1732
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 4: going on right now, I have just continued to see

1733
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 4: him do right by fight fans time and time again,

1734
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 4: even if that doesn't mean competing. So, Kenny, people are

1735
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 4: so mad about John Jones right now. Yeah, so they're

1736
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 4: so mad, and so I just want to set up

1737
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 4: the timeline just a little bit, right Because when I

1738
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,759
Speaker 4: get asked hosting a press conference if John Jones should

1739
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 4: be stripped, and I throw out your opinion, which I

1740
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 4: now share, that the fight between John Jones and Tom

1741
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 4: aspinall is bigger if they are both champions, and it's

1742
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 4: actually counterintuitive to strip John if in fact the fight's

1743
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 4: gonna happen in twenty twenty five, people get very upset.

1744
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 4: So John Jones beat Dominic Rays at UFC two forty

1745
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 4: seven in twenty twenty. He then didn't fight again until

1746
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 4: the Seedle Gun fight UFC two to eighty five March fourth,

1747
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three. Right then he tore the pectoral muscle

1748
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:31,799
Speaker 4: getting ready for Stepe. They waited for that fight. Stepe

1749
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 4: had a four year layoff UFC three h nine. Jones

1750
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 4: versus Me at Chichen Madison Square Garden last November, right,

1751
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 4: So John Jones competed like seven months ago, right, now,

1752
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 4: correct me if I'm wrong, right, and again people are

1753
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 4: gonna hate me regardless. It's okay, he didn't compete all

1754
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 4: that long ago, right, he competed seven months okay?

1755
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 2: Right?

1756
01:21:55,600 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 4: So if John Jones fights Tom Aspinall into December of

1757
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 4: this year, then I'm not sure exactly what the expectation

1758
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 4: was relative to his calendar, and I'm really not sure

1759
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 4: what the big deal is now. The problem is there's

1760
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 4: not a lot of information.

1761
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 10: Right.

1762
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 4: The point that we're all in accordance on is that

1763
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 4: Tom Aspinall's next fight will be for the undisputed UFC

1764
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 4: Heavyweight Championship, and that needs to happen in twenty twenty five.

1765
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 4: So I believe if it's not going to be that

1766
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 4: first weekend in December, these two in Las Vegas, then

1767
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 4: they will strip John Jones and we'll all feel good

1768
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 4: that Tom's fight is for the undisputed heavyweight championship. But

1769
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 4: John Jones has not been an active competitor over the

1770
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 4: last five years, so the notion that he would take

1771
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 4: thirteen months off after the Stepe fight, in relative terms,

1772
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 4: is not a lot of.

1773
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 6: Time, right, And I think for fans, and it is

1774
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 6: I guess for anybody. No one likes being in limbo.

1775
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 6: Nobody likes not knowing exactly how it's all going to

1776
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 6: go down, and people would to be like, I don't

1777
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 6: even want the fight to happen anymore. Just stop torturing me,

1778
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 6: you know, I just want to know when this fight's

1779
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 6: gonna happen. But what it is is people are angry,

1780
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 6: not necessarily at John Jones. There maybe perhaps is sum

1781
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 6: right because somebody are just gonna be hating on John

1782
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 6: Jones regardless. But they want to see this fight. That's

1783
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 6: what this means is they want to see this fight happen,

1784
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 6: and I think that's where they're coming from more than

1785
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 6: anything else. I still am optimistic that it will happen.

1786
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 6: We shall see.

1787
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:33,719
Speaker 4: So tom Asminnaal defended his interim championship against Curtis Blades

1788
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 4: July twenty twenty four at UFC three to zero four.

1789
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 4: And part of the issue is that now tom has

1790
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 4: been training for a year, staying ready and hasn't had

1791
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 4: a fight. So forget John Jones's calendar for a second.

1792
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 4: A big part of this issue is that Tommy needs

1793
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 4: to fight and deserves to fight for the undisputed heavyweight

1794
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 4: championship right. I don't know if there is convincing going

1795
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 4: on or if there's negotiating going on, but my expectation

1796
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 4: always after John Jones beat Steepe Spectacular, was that the

1797
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 4: earliest Ye're getting that fight is a year from now

1798
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,679
Speaker 4: Madison Square Garden, because John Jones is going to enjoy

1799
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 4: the fruits, and I don't know that he's of a

1800
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 4: mindset that he's going to stack training camps. It's rest

1801
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 4: and recovery and recreation. And then you know, he says

1802
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 4: he needs six months to get back into it right,

1803
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 4: and that would mean that if he got back into

1804
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:25,799
Speaker 4: it right now, then potentially he could fight Tom Aspinall

1805
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 4: in December. And the optimist in me is still hopeful

1806
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 4: that that is going to be the course of action. Otherwise,

1807
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 4: I think you're gonna get Selgan or Alexander Volkov fighting

1808
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 4: Tom Aspinall for the undisputed heavyweight championship later this year,

1809
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 4: and there will be some disappointment there, you know. But

1810
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:44,679
Speaker 4: I remember a time when, you know, with Ronda Rousey

1811
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,560
Speaker 4: was like, man, she gotta fight Cyborg or gotta see this,

1812
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 4: and you know, so we'll see what happens. But uh,

1813
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 4: I just want to get that out there because there's

1814
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 4: just a lot of anger and a lot of heat,

1815
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:56,639
Speaker 4: and I do think it's not that big a deal

1816
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 4: if he does fight Tom thirteen months after he fought Steepe.

1817
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 4: Anything else that I need to get to from UFC

1818
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 4: fight night Usman versus Buckley. You know, the whole main

1819
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 4: card was decisions right, and sometimes that can leave people

1820
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 4: feel in a certain way. You know, the Edmund Schabazi

1821
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 4: and Andre Petrowski fight wasn't the fight of the year,

1822
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 4: but like, I don't know, I think I'm a little

1823
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 4: bit too insulated into embedetizer, but I thought Edmund looked

1824
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 4: great and you know, did what he needed to do

1825
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 4: against that particular stylist and skill set. You know, I

1826
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 4: know you felt like, uh or I think it was

1827
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 4: actually Petrie put his whole stack on Andre Petrowski. But

1828
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 4: what do you think of Edmund? And is there anything

1829
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 4: else on this fight cat that I'm missing?

1830
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 6: This is an Edmund Shabazi and that is maturing leaps

1831
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 6: and bounds now in the UFC Again, we saw him

1832
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 6: struggle in the past against guys that have tried to

1833
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 6: take him down. So what it's telling me is that

1834
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 6: he's pacing himself a lot better now. He's not just

1835
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 6: going kind of going balls to the wall in round

1836
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 6: one now or getting overly excited if he does hurt his.

1837
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 3: Opponents in number two.

1838
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,839
Speaker 6: It's saying that he is working and much more comfortable

1839
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 6: with his grappling skill, way better on the sprawl, way

1840
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:04,719
Speaker 6: better with his defensive wrestling, way better with his ability

1841
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:06,600
Speaker 6: to get back to his feet and stay calm and

1842
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,759
Speaker 6: not panic and make big mistakes and go from winning

1843
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 6: the fight to losing the fight in a blink of

1844
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 6: an eye. So this is, I think what everyone was

1845
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 6: hoping for from Shabazian. He's putting it all together.

1846
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 3: Maybe a little bit later than people would have liked,

1847
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 3: but he's putting it together.

1848
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 4: And that's a great sun And you like that haircut too,

1849
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:26,560
Speaker 4: with the shaved head ed man. Let's go. Yeah, So

1850
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 4: how many barcelos man continuing to defy age and odds

1851
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 4: and a lot of respects. Right beats. Cody Garbrand after

1852
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 4: beating Peyton Talbot. I know, dude, thought Cody, Yeah, No,

1853
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:42,759
Speaker 4: I thought it was a great fight, Cody.

1854
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 3: Listen, Cody looked great. Early in that fight, he looked

1855
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 3: like he was on he was on point, and then

1856
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 3: something happened. What happened? How many Barcelos happened?

1857
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 6: He just wouldn't go away, and you know it, Cody

1858
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 6: just started to lose confidence in himself over the course

1859
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 6: of the fight, I think is what happened, and again

1860
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 6: made a little bit of mistake, gave up his back

1861
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 6: that kind.

1862
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 3: Of got in the back of his head a little bit.

1863
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 6: It seemed like Cody was back in the fight at

1864
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 6: times and then kind of checked out a little bit

1865
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,640
Speaker 6: at times, and I don't know, you know, it's like

1866
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 6: we saw like three different Cody garbrands throughout that fight,

1867
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 6: and it is frustrating because man, is that kid talented.

1868
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 6: Cody is so damn talented and so dangerous and so

1869
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 6: physically capable that that was a fight that he absolutely

1870
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 6: I think should have won, could have won. I think

1871
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 6: it was very close. But I have no problem obviously

1872
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 6: with Barcellos getting the win. He did a great job

1873
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 6: getting him to the ground, getting great position on Cody.

1874
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 6: He was pressuring late in that fight, where Cody was

1875
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 6: kind of got a little bit too defensive and hesitant.

1876
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's tough to see Cody go that way

1877
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 6: and lose to guys. Again, Barcello's very good fighter, but

1878
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 6: I think Cody should still be an elite bantam weight

1879
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 6: and we're just not seeing it.

1880
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 4: So I do think that Barcelos, to your point, fought

1881
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 4: a really prepared, thoughtful Cody Garbrandt. And it's going to

1882
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 4: be really interesting to see how Cody spins this forward

1883
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 4: because I do think in a lot of respects mentally,

1884
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 4: he's in a really good place and you know, just

1885
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 4: a little bit short against how many Barcelos who wins

1886
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 4: by unanimous decision? Did you see the aforementioned Peruvian flyweight

1887
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 4: jose O Shoa? Not so so you will. And I

1888
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:27,639
Speaker 4: don't know if you heard me mention the word bravery earlier.

1889
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:29,639
Speaker 4: You probably did if you were listening to the podcast

1890
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 4: that you co host, right. If you didn't hear me

1891
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 4: use the word bravery earlier, that would probably be super disrespectful.

1892
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 4: But what are your thoughts on that? Because there are

1893
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 4: plenty of fighters who are down to nil in a

1894
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 4: third and final round and aren't willing to stare into

1895
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 4: the fire and get knocked out, and jose O Shoa

1896
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 4: part of the reason why he won a fifty thousand

1897
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 4: dollars bonus and is a flyweight force to be reckoned

1898
01:28:58,080 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 4: with is because he was brave enough to sort of

1899
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 4: into the pocket and seeing wander Boy Thompson, I think

1900
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 4: was the word the guy who used the word. I

1901
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,799
Speaker 4: just am curious about your thoughts on sort of bravery

1902
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 4: in combat sports.

1903
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 3: It is everything.

1904
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,799
Speaker 6: I use this analogy all the time with my students,

1905
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,639
Speaker 6: and I talk about the skill aspect of it, where

1906
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 6: you have this very sharp samurai blade, and you can

1907
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 6: have the sharpest blade in the world, but if you

1908
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 6: don't have the courage and commitment to swing.

1909
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 3: That thing with everything you have, then the blade is useless.

1910
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 3: And vice versa.

1911
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 6: If you have the courage or you have the bravery

1912
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 6: to be able to swing it, but your blade is

1913
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 6: not tremendously sharp, then that is also useless. You need

1914
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 6: to be able to combine those things together. And you know,

1915
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 6: it takes a lot to go out there and compete

1916
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 6: in front of millions of people, let alone fight some

1917
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,680
Speaker 6: of the best fighters in the world, and it's so

1918
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 6: easy to kind of doubt yourself at times when things

1919
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 6: aren't going well, and to see a guy, especially you

1920
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 6: know a provinging fighter, go out there with bravery and say,

1921
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 6: you know, things aren't going uh my way right now,

1922
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 6: but I'm gonna make it my way. I'm gonna find

1923
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 6: a way and to have that courage and go I'm

1924
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 6: not going out like this is what is what is

1925
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 6: the mark of a fighter in which which fans can

1926
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 6: always appreciate.

1927
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,560
Speaker 3: So it seems like I did not see it. I

1928
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 3: know the summary.

1929
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 6: He came back to win, which is awesome against it

1930
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 6: gets a tough guy and Cody Durton by the way,

1931
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 6: so that's always great to see.

1932
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 4: Man. Yeah, I think he could be a real force.

1933
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 4: We'll see what happens. Congrats also to Ricky Simone getting

1934
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 4: it done against Cameron smothering Phil Rowe with an outstanding

1935
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 4: knockout the uppercuts. In the clinches, he rallies to beat Angelosa,

1936
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 4: an outstanding result. Congrats to the Ultimate Fighter Lives Michael

1937
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 4: Kiasa getting it done against Court McGee man. So, who

1938
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 4: are Abdul Malik? I don't know if you saw the

1939
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 4: head butt Kenny at the end of this fight. So

1940
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 4: he beats Cody Brundage by technical decision. So at the

1941
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 4: thirty six second mark, of round three, there's a head button.

1942
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 4: It was a pretty bad one. So they go to

1943
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 4: the scorecards and had the rightful winner. Man, So were

1944
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 4: Abdul Malick really nice to see Brunn. It's just going

1945
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:03,640
Speaker 4: for it.

1946
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 7: You know.

1947
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 4: It's a pretty crazy fight given, uh, as long as

1948
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 4: it lasted. Unfortunate end to that one kid.

1949
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, started a little bit slow.

1950
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,599
Speaker 6: It seemed like both guys were a little bit hesitant

1951
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 6: and respectful of each other's power. Things started to pick

1952
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:18,799
Speaker 6: up a little bit. They had their flurries, which started

1953
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 6: to get me excited, and then in round three things

1954
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 6: got really exciting. I don't think it was an intentional

1955
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:29,640
Speaker 6: headbut I think what it was for Malick was he

1956
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 6: was ducking down. He was like, as he was entering,

1957
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 6: it seemed like he was ducking his head down to

1958
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 6: avoid an uppercut or a strike from Brundage, and in

1959
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:42,799
Speaker 6: doing so slammed his head unfortunately into the head of Brundage,

1960
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 6: which hurt him. So, yeah, you know, tough spot there.

1961
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 6: You know, when things were heating up like that, you

1962
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 6: don't want to see a fight end with something like that.

1963
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 6: But you know, and for Malick, I think he's gonna

1964
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 6: learn a lot from that fight. Brundage came to fight,

1965
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 6: he was not going away easily, and you know, I

1966
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:01,679
Speaker 6: think that's a good fight for a young talented fighter

1967
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:02,520
Speaker 6: like Malick.

1968
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 3: To learn from.

1969
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 4: All Right, bonus winners Kamar Usman, Jakin Buckley, your Fight

1970
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 4: of the Night performance bonuses Malcolm well Maker of course,

1971
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 4: and jose O'SHOA. All right, So I'm wearing my Kayla

1972
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:15,599
Speaker 4: Harrison T shirt today and I was going to book

1973
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 4: her on the show, and as I was going through

1974
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 4: the thought process, Kenny, Oh, We're gonna have her on

1975
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:23,759
Speaker 4: the program. But in terms of the conversation about Banham

1976
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 4: weight and the weight until I can figure out how

1977
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 4: I'm going to probe her, you know, I didn't necessarily

1978
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 4: want to have her on the program because my thesis

1979
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 4: statement largely on it is that anything other than one

1980
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 4: more cut to one hundred and thirty five pounds just

1981
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 4: makes no sense for her long term health. But I

1982
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 4: understand why for Amanda Noona is having her cut one

1983
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 4: more time competitively, it makes sense. We're going to go

1984
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 4: right back to the guest line though right now, because

1985
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 4: joining us live on the Anakin Floorm podcast is the

1986
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:53,839
Speaker 4: most underrated chief corner in the history of the UFC.

1987
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 4: He was on the top of the podium this weekend.

1988
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 4: If you're paying attention, own her operator Flora and Marsha

1989
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 4: Arts Center. Our good friend Ken flows brother in right

1990
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 4: hand man, Keith Florian back on the program. Good to

1991
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 4: see you, handsome. How are we doing, John?

1992
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 2: What's going on?

1993
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:08,760
Speaker 13: Man?

1994
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 10: How are you?

1995
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 8: Thanks so much for having me on.

1996
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 2: What's up?

1997
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 4: Kenny?

1998
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 3: Hey, what a surprise. I didn't know this. That's funny.

1999
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 4: So when was the last time you guys saw each other?

2000
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 4: I think you might see each other soon here, but

2001
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 4: when was the last time you guys saw each other?

2002
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:21,799
Speaker 3: A couple of days ago.

2003
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 7: We actually saw each other?

2004
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, like yeah, earlier this week.

2005
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 3: I had stop back from Miss Dan Bull.

2006
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 6: I had a little stop in Boston, so I stayed

2007
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 6: the night at Key's place and then and then he.

2008
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:35,559
Speaker 3: Took me to the airport and took off.

2009
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2010
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:40,600
Speaker 4: So before we get to maybe more serious matters, congratulations,

2011
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 4: I mean, you enter the tournament top of the podium.

2012
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 4: So how was that tournament this weekend? It's always nice

2013
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 4: to see on the jumbo tron there with that uh

2014
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 4: you know, metal around your neck.

2015
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 11: Thank you so much, John Yeah, it was. It was

2016
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 11: a tough tournament. I competed in the World League. It

2017
01:33:57,080 --> 01:34:00,800
Speaker 11: was a four man bracket, and you know, luckily my

2018
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:04,680
Speaker 11: style matched up well against my opponents and I was

2019
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 11: able to pull off pull off the winds.

2020
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:09,680
Speaker 3: Had a mess, had some messed up ribs there, Johnny too.

2021
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 8: That's right, oh man.

2022
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 11: Last week we had a a stellar jiu jitsu fighter,

2023
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 11: Valor Boyer, around for the week and he did a

2024
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 11: seminar for us, and so, you know, I hadn't met

2025
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 11: him during the week when he was there training with

2026
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 11: the guys, and they're like, Keith, you got to go

2027
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 11: train with him, you gotta go to okay, texted him,

2028
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 11: met him on Friday at noon. You know, nobody in

2029
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 11: the academy, just us two where we get right into it.

2030
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 11: You know, first round goes great. Second round he's attempting

2031
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:45,640
Speaker 11: to take my back, kind of stretches me out, and

2032
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 11: being forty six years old and not warmed up properly,

2033
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 11: my rib pops and I'm just like sitting there like,

2034
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:53,959
Speaker 11: oh my god.

2035
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 4: Like okay, stop stop, I'm good, I'm good, you know.

2036
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 8: You know he meanwhile, he probably thinks I'm a wus like,

2037
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 8: you know, oh, you know, I got him back, and

2038
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:04,640
Speaker 8: now he tas you know, now his rip hurts, right,

2039
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 8: you know.

2040
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 11: So but really I really entered my rib and I

2041
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:12,720
Speaker 11: didn't even train for like four or five days, and

2042
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:16,640
Speaker 11: I was honestly contemplating not even competing at all. But I,

2043
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 11: you know, kind of was thinking I trained too hard,

2044
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 11: you know, let me just at least give it a shot,

2045
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:25,719
Speaker 11: you know, don't go on your back by any means possible,

2046
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 11: try to play the top game.

2047
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 8: And you know I lucked out.

2048
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 4: Good for you, bro, Well, it's great to see you.

2049
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 4: There are a couple of things that I was curious

2050
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 4: to ask you about. I did notice on your Instagram

2051
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 4: that you, I don't know if you're doing some mixed

2052
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:42,759
Speaker 4: martial arts analytics, but you have been asked about fights recently.

2053
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 4: I'm curious, like what your UFC viewing habits are these days,

2054
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 4: and how many of these big fights you're actually able

2055
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 4: to ingest.

2056
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 8: It's unfortunately it is a little bit limited these days.

2057
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 8: I just I have so much going on.

2058
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 11: I don't know, if you know, John, I literally run

2059
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:03,840
Speaker 11: like four different businesses at this point. I'm heavy into

2060
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 11: real estate, heavy into the you know, the guys at

2061
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 11: the jiu jitsu academy. You know, finding a spare moment

2062
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 11: is very difficult. But when there is a big fight,

2063
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 11: I'll catch it kind of the next day or highlights

2064
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 11: and and you know, try my best to keep updated.

2065
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:23,040
Speaker 11: But I would say I'm more towards like gi jiu

2066
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 11: jitsu or no gi jiu jitsu at the moment.

2067
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:29,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we could have a long conversation about

2068
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:32,680
Speaker 4: the evolution of jiu jitsu and sort of the competitive

2069
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 4: nature and all the different people trying to enter the space.

2070
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 4: But in terms of the UFC, and you know, we

2071
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:40,719
Speaker 4: just saw him Rob Dwallash Willie, a guy who historically

2072
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 4: has had a lot of decisions go out and finish

2073
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 4: Shan O'Malley with a submission. And Kenny and I have

2074
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 4: probably spent about twenty hours over the last ten years

2075
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:51,560
Speaker 4: on this podcast talking about high level fighters maybe not

2076
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:54,679
Speaker 4: having a signature choke or having a way to put

2077
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:57,439
Speaker 4: other athletes away once they get them on the ground.

2078
01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:00,760
Speaker 4: I'm talking about control guys maybe with back like Kamar

2079
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 4: Usman or Blow Muhammad, And I don't know, I'm just

2080
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 4: an amateur. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking

2081
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 4: about half the time, but I just wanted to get

2082
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 4: your thoughts on this sort of thesis statement of mind

2083
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 4: that like, if you're a control guy, why not do

2084
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 4: what Daniel Cormier did. So listen Kenny Florian's advice, get

2085
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 4: a signature rear naked choke so that when you take

2086
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 4: down Anthony Rumble Johnson, the fight's over. You don't have

2087
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 4: to do it again for five.

2088
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 8: Rounds, right right.

2089
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 11: I mean it can be it can absolutely be an

2090
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:33,760
Speaker 11: amazing thing to have, you know, a rear naked choke

2091
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,880
Speaker 11: like like Kenny had, But it could also be a

2092
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:40,680
Speaker 11: crutch in my opinion, because they know that just to

2093
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,720
Speaker 11: fight that one thing, you know, and it can be

2094
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 11: difficult to to uh to then you know, combat that.

2095
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:53,160
Speaker 11: But yeah, I mean there's there's definitely you know something

2096
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:55,760
Speaker 11: to that having a rear naked choke, having a you know,

2097
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 11: amazing triangle to armbar, having some type of submission in

2098
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 11: there that you that everybody knows once they get it,

2099
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 11: you know, the fight's over.

2100
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 3: Keith.

2101
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,639
Speaker 6: It's crazy to see how mixed martial arts has evolved

2102
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 6: over the years. Obviously, there's just so many more gyms,

2103
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 6: so many more fighters, so many more fights and experience

2104
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 6: to gain from. But I guess going back, like and

2105
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 6: you still.

2106
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:19,719
Speaker 3: Work with mixed martial arts guys obviously at FORLID Martial

2107
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 3: Arts Center.

2108
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 6: But what do you think is the most difficult thing

2109
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:26,919
Speaker 6: as far as like planning for a fight or preparing

2110
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 6: a fighter to get to that next level.

2111
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 7: Wow, that's a question.

2112
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:41,560
Speaker 11: I mean, yeah, but I mean preparing them, you know,

2113
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:46,639
Speaker 11: cardiovascular wise. I think it is a massive step towards

2114
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 11: preparing somebody. And I think that I don't know if

2115
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:54,600
Speaker 11: it's negated a lot or neglected, but the mental aspect,

2116
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 11: I think is one of the biggest aspects of mixed

2117
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 11: martial arts and preventing some people from taking it to

2118
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 11: the next level.

2119
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 8: It always amazes me when people are able.

2120
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 11: To, you know, talk trash and then back it up

2121
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:15,759
Speaker 11: because it's an immense amount of pressure. It's an immense

2122
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 11: amount of weight on their shoulders before going into the ring.

2123
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 11: And I mean, if you just think about it, you're

2124
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 11: gonna go into a ring with twenty thousand people, millions

2125
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 11: of people watching you on TV, and you're gonna go

2126
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 11: one on one with somebody and fight them in a cage.

2127
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 8: It just baffles the mind.

2128
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 11: I think when explaining that to a normal person, you know,

2129
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 11: it's unbelievable that that mental stress that somebody has to

2130
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:48,839
Speaker 11: take on. And I mean, frankly, I've never met somebody

2131
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:53,639
Speaker 11: like Kenny. I've never met somebody like very very few

2132
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:56,960
Speaker 11: people have that that can just take on that stress

2133
01:39:57,280 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 11: and be able to shine under those lights.

2134
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:00,200
Speaker 2: It is.

2135
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:01,600
Speaker 8: It is unbelievable.

2136
01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:05,559
Speaker 4: So we talk a lot about Brazilian jiu jitsu as

2137
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 4: the gentle art, right, yet if there's nothing really inherently

2138
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 4: gentle at that and you know, I mean, it seems

2139
01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 4: like you just fucking popped a rip, right, So, like

2140
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 4: at my age about to be forty seven, So playing

2141
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:24,599
Speaker 4: basketball comes with risk, right, doing Brazilian jiu jitsu comes

2142
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 4: with risk that maybe I'm gonna be a fat fuck

2143
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 4: on TV because I'm not gonna be able to do

2144
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:30,679
Speaker 4: any strength and conditioning or running for six weeks because

2145
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Speaker 4: I get injured doing one of those sports, right, Or

2146
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:35,599
Speaker 4: maybe I'll have to eat like grilled chicken and broccoli

2147
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 4: for six weeks.

2148
01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 10: Right.

2149
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 4: I know that's not an issue for you, but like, bro,

2150
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:42,880
Speaker 4: what would you say to people? Right, it might be

2151
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 4: the best thing for me in terms of my mentality,

2152
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:50,560
Speaker 4: my spiritual well being, all these things. But bro like

2153
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:53,760
Speaker 4: for me, it seems like a major injury waiting to happen.

2154
01:40:56,160 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, it's it's definitely, it's definitely top. I mean

2155
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:03,680
Speaker 11: you have to weigh those risks, you know, training with

2156
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 11: people who are able to you know, watch out for

2157
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 11: certain types of you know, locks and have the control

2158
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 11: when they're hitting a triangle or taking your back, uh,

2159
01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 11: and not stretching you in certain areas.

2160
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 8: Uh, that's key, you know.

2161
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 11: I have I have a guy who who literally just

2162
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 11: started with me a year and a half ago, and

2163
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 11: he started at sixty years old. Wow, I mean that's unbelievable.

2164
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 11: It's unbelievable, and he's stuck with it. He's still doing

2165
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 11: privates with me.

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01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 7: Uh.

2167
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 8: He does go to the gym, but it's not as much.

2168
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 7: You know.

2169
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:42,519
Speaker 11: I always tell him, watch who you're rolling with. Make

2170
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:44,880
Speaker 11: sure you you know, give me, give me a look

2171
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 11: like is this guy good?

2172
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 2: You know?

2173
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 7: To roll it?

2174
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:51,080
Speaker 11: You know, and because the whole thing is just not

2175
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:53,160
Speaker 11: getting injured so you can be consistent.

2176
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:54,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, right.

2177
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 4: I when I was at American Top Team West Palm Beach,

2178
01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:00,639
Speaker 4: I think I did five classes but you know, brown Belt,

2179
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 4: you know, I'm doing a fucking Camora sweep, and the

2180
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:06,719
Speaker 4: look of disappointment when I didn't post going through themor sweep,

2181
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:08,600
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, I need a fucking notebook. It's like,

2182
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:11,879
Speaker 4: you got seven different things I gotta do to execute

2183
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 4: this Camors sweep. And it's my third day, right, I'm

2184
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 4: gonna take my gee. I'm gonna use it to white

2185
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 4: white belt tears on the way home, and I'm never

2186
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:21,760
Speaker 4: coming back, you know, And that's kind of how it went, right.

2187
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:25,599
Speaker 4: So before I let you go, you know, we bring

2188
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 4: up your name a lot. Your my favorite chief corner

2189
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:30,880
Speaker 4: in UFC history. I just feel like you were so underrated,

2190
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:34,160
Speaker 4: seriously though, like so underrated, and you know, maybe yet

2191
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 4: it's because Kenny largely was your focus and you didn't

2192
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 4: corner a ton of UFC fighters. But you know, we

2193
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 4: have sort of talked a lot about those two weight

2194
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:45,000
Speaker 4: cuts for Diego Nunez and Jose Aldo, and I think

2195
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 4: for a lot of us in Kenny's life, we remember

2196
01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:49,840
Speaker 4: exactly where we were the day he was cutting weight

2197
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:53,639
Speaker 4: for Nunez because we were afraid. What do you remember

2198
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:55,679
Speaker 4: about that particular day in your life?

2199
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:01,839
Speaker 8: Well, I remember that being being crazy.

2200
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:05,040
Speaker 11: If I remember correctly, that was the first fight at

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01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:05,679
Speaker 11: forty five.

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01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:08,760
Speaker 8: There was a lot of unknowns.

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01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:14,600
Speaker 11: I remember trying my best to like be there with

2204
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 11: him and kind of suffer with him in the sauna.

2205
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 8: But I remember one time where at the end when

2206
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:24,519
Speaker 8: we were just.

2207
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 11: Getting to the end of the of like forty seven

2208
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 11: forty six at the way cut, and I literally had

2209
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:35,240
Speaker 11: to like it was like ww where I came out

2210
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:38,120
Speaker 11: of the sauna, slapped hands with somebody and then somebody

2211
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 11: else had to come in for the sauna because I

2212
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 11: just couldn't take it anymore.

2213
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 7: It was and Kenny was in there just like.

2214
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:46,720
Speaker 8: I could do it.

2215
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 7: I can do it, Like what a beat. It was insane.

2216
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 4: It was insane, absolute beasts.

2217
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 10: And so you to see you.

2218
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 4: I want to surprise you, bro. I know you guys

2219
01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 4: are going to see each other shortly on the way out.

2220
01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:02,560
Speaker 4: Two quick questions, Uh, would you get a hair transplant?

2221
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:03,559
Speaker 4: And I'm sorry for putting me.

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01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 10: On the spot.

2223
01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Can you repeat that it just

2224
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:09,840
Speaker 7: cut out just.

2225
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 2: A little bit.

2226
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 4: Would you be willing to go to Turkey to get

2227
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:15,760
Speaker 4: a hair transplant? And I'm sorry if I'm putting you

2228
01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 4: on the spot.

2229
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 8: I might have to in about five years, na even

2230
01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 8: like me?

2231
01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 4: All right, last question? Right, we asked Ray long ago

2232
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:29,680
Speaker 4: a lot of these would you rather? Questions? But I

2233
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:31,880
Speaker 4: wanted to ask a jiu jitsu practitioner this one.

2234
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:32,600
Speaker 10: Would you?

2235
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:34,360
Speaker 4: And I think I know the answer? Would you rather

2236
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 4: be physically stronger than most people in the world or

2237
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 4: be able to fly?

2238
01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:41,679
Speaker 5: Oh?

2239
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:43,320
Speaker 7: I think fly?

2240
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 4: All right, Well, we love.

2242
01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:50,720
Speaker 10: This guy.

2243
01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 4: And uh, I guess in the greater Boston area, we

2244
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 4: got a real estate empire going on. If people have

2245
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:57,000
Speaker 4: real estate needs, they can come at you. Is that

2246
01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 4: the Is that the deal?

2247
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:03,040
Speaker 11: A hundred sat man, We're doing a new development here

2248
01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 11: in Newton. It's gonna be it's gonna take uh, probably

2249
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 11: gonna be in like the first quarter of twenty twenty six.

2250
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:13,919
Speaker 11: Just got torn down. We're digging out the foundation. Footings

2251
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 11: are going in this week and pouring foundation next week.

2252
01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:20,840
Speaker 4: How about that? All right, buddy? Well, I'm back in

2253
01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:23,960
Speaker 4: New England actually, so I will come to the Florid

2254
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 4: Martial Arts Center at some point in time and maybe

2255
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:29,760
Speaker 4: just maybe I'm gonna put that gey on and.

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01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:31,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go.

2257
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:33,280
Speaker 7: That would be amazing.

2258
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:34,719
Speaker 8: That would be amazing.

2259
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 4: All right, buddy, thank you for I know you have

2260
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:39,200
Speaker 4: a busy Monday. Thank you for squeezing the sin. It's

2261
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:41,560
Speaker 4: great to see. We'll talk to you soon. Brother, Thank you,

2262
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:45,800
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Man, Take care guys. Florian with

2263
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:48,000
Speaker 4: us Sonny Anak and Florian Podcast. Get it done for

2264
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 4: the Florid and Martial Arts Center all day, you know,

2265
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:53,639
Speaker 4: I mean they lost the school, you know, Ken Flow

2266
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 4: fucking TV film career.

2267
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 7: Goes to l a later.

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01:45:57,160 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of Yeah, you could go big on

2269
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:07,800
Speaker 4: Brian Petree if you like. For the pronunciation of the week.

2270
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:10,360
Speaker 4: I always like his candor the pronunciation of the week.

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01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:12,679
Speaker 4: It's brought to you by Total Wireless, the official wireless

2272
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2273
01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:19,599
Speaker 3: What's up, BP, What's going on? And that was great

2274
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:20,360
Speaker 3: with Keith Florian.

2275
01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 14: Man, I've never heard a corner cut through like Keith

2276
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 14: Floran knew and Kenny was fighting because Keith his voice

2277
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:27,880
Speaker 14: cut through.

2278
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:29,559
Speaker 3: Man, it was beautiful. That was awesome.

2279
01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, nice way of saying, he's got that high pitch

2280
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 4: and he don't get.

2281
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 3: They cut through.

2282
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:39,519
Speaker 4: Br you're looking sun splash buddy, huh.

2283
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:40,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit.

2284
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:42,439
Speaker 14: You know, I got back from the beach and then

2285
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:45,000
Speaker 14: you know, my job is outside, so if I get

2286
01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:48,360
Speaker 14: a little base, then then then it develops. But like

2287
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:50,599
Speaker 14: I said, I'm Garfield, I'm I'm an a Nora cat.

2288
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 14: I'm watching fights all day, so I don't get a

2289
01:46:52,439 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 14: ton of sun.

2290
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:56,679
Speaker 4: Would you rather be someone's pet goldfish or a wild lizard?

2291
01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:00,320
Speaker 1: Uh?

2292
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 3: Wild lizard? Because question? Yeah exactly, yeah lizard.

2293
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 4: Right, I know I'll take my chances. Sure the wild lizard.

2294
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 4: Flow is obviously gonna be a wild lizard and he's

2295
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:20,519
Speaker 4: stuck in your way out, all right. So we have

2296
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:23,360
Speaker 4: featured both of these files on the pronunciation of the

2297
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:26,639
Speaker 4: week before, right, So the first one, I just don't

2298
01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:31,200
Speaker 4: understand why people won't just fall in line when it

2299
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 4: comes to pronouncing this name. So this man has risen

2300
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:37,080
Speaker 4: to become one of the best lightweights in the world, Kenny,

2301
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 4: despite not being ranked at present. He represents chile nicknames

2302
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 4: Lahala and Nacho Ken Flow. Care to have a gander

2303
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 4: as to how this man pronounces his name?

2304
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:56,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ignacio, God, you don't stop showing off.

2305
01:47:56,640 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 4: We're gonna give the segment back to Brian yeah, Brian

2306
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 4: here to pronounce Nacho's name for us.

2307
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:05,840
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, I I've I've done this bit before,

2308
01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 14: but it's the sexiest name in the UFC.

2309
01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:08,719
Speaker 3: It's Nasio ba.

2310
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 4: Right right, I mean circle doesn't it's where because you

2311
01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:15,559
Speaker 4: put that eight in there. So the whole thing we're

2312
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 4: trying to do, we're not pronouncing the H. So uh,

2313
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:20,440
Speaker 4: let's hear Nacho if we could coblup.

2314
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:38,040
Speaker 5: Nasio lahula ba ah Monday Nasio la houla ba Ahmond.

2315
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:43,040
Speaker 4: I mean, man, we appreciate the thoughtfulness, but Nacho, we

2316
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 4: do not have all day.

2317
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:46,760
Speaker 3: Tooke this time.

2318
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:50,120
Speaker 4: Mondays, Yeah. So we're dropping the h there and then

2319
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:52,680
Speaker 4: the second one just makes me laugh. I mean, this

2320
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:55,920
Speaker 4: is incredible. If you're watching on the DraftKings YouTube channel,

2321
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 4: his first name is spelled m y k t y

2322
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:04,680
Speaker 4: e k and the last time he fought epically, he

2323
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 4: fought a guy by the name of MATTAUJ. Round Beetsky

2324
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:09,320
Speaker 4: who's been featured on the Pronunciation of the Week before. So,

2325
01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 4: Ken Flow, you're seeing the name on the bottom of

2326
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 4: your screen, how do you pronounce that name?

2327
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:19,000
Speaker 3: Mickt bick Orle by mickte bik Orle.

2328
01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:23,040
Speaker 4: By gosh, man, this kid is so good you're gonna

2329
01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:26,360
Speaker 4: lose the segment. It's very close. I think off lightly,

2330
01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:31,160
Speaker 4: I mean nailed the syllabic emphasis. But I don't know

2331
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 4: if I think it's muck like you're stuck VP. We'd

2332
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 4: love you. We don't need an attempt from you on

2333
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 4: this one. Listening to the bed and the Uh, the

2334
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 4: Kazakhstans say his own name. Go ahead, coach, it's kid.

2335
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 10: My name is Morte.

2336
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:53,559
Speaker 2: My name is morteguckt BC.

2337
01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:57,800
Speaker 4: He could have said his name thirty times in the

2338
01:49:57,840 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 4: time it took Nacho to say his name muck Beck

2339
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 4: oral by man. They are easier names than that. That's

2340
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:08,599
Speaker 4: it for the pronunciation of the week. All right, this weekend,

2341
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:11,599
Speaker 4: the hits keep on coming, Baku Azerbaijan as we get

2342
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:15,000
Speaker 4: to the main event challenge, all main card predictions coming

2343
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:17,320
Speaker 4: to you today live on the Ankin flooran podcast. But

2344
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:20,160
Speaker 4: a few preliminary notes quickly if I could so, And

2345
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:22,719
Speaker 4: that's exchange with Oban Elliott this morning.

2346
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 7: Uh.

2347
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:25,160
Speaker 4: He will be on with us next week should he

2348
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:28,920
Speaker 4: get past the Korean tyson sukkonko. That is now the

2349
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 4: future preliminary bout and I also wondered, Brian, you think

2350
01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 4: Kamara Usman is now going to Baku, Azerbaijan because his

2351
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:38,799
Speaker 4: brother Mohamed Usman is fighting this weekend?

2352
01:50:39,200 --> 01:50:39,760
Speaker 3: Oh for sure?

2353
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:43,920
Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah yeah, wheels up, yep. I think he'll

2354
01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:46,599
Speaker 4: be in the corner all right. UFC Fight Night Hill

2355
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 4: versus Round Tree Junior Live on ABC. Brian, we start

2356
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 4: with a featherweight main card offering Tajikistan's Muhammed Naima minus

2357
01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:59,280
Speaker 4: two eighteen taken on Bogdan the Unleashed God, who is

2358
01:50:59,320 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 4: plus one eight hill Man Naimo forod In one of

2359
01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:04,240
Speaker 4: the UFC taking on God who was born in Romania

2360
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:07,400
Speaker 4: now fights out of Austria. Grod's won four in a row.

2361
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 4: He was bonus for a knockout of Lucas Alexander and

2362
01:51:09,400 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 4: his UFC debut back in February. Sneaky good fight here

2363
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:14,560
Speaker 4: brought a kick off the main card. Which way you go?

2364
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2365
01:51:15,320 --> 01:51:15,840
Speaker 3: Real good friend?

2366
01:51:16,640 --> 01:51:16,760
Speaker 12: Man?

2367
01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:19,880
Speaker 3: Excuse me? Uh, naimof how you say, John, give me

2368
01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:20,400
Speaker 3: one more time?

2369
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:21,960
Speaker 4: Man?

2370
01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:23,680
Speaker 3: Naim mof uh.

2371
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:25,519
Speaker 14: He's been around for a while, right, he looks you know,

2372
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 14: and he and he's a powerhouse. He also just had

2373
01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:29,720
Speaker 14: to grapple a little bit big, big, big power in

2374
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 14: the range. But Grod I think has better Admittedly, I

2375
01:51:34,360 --> 01:51:36,320
Speaker 14: think he has better takedowns, and I think he can

2376
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:40,040
Speaker 14: stop his takedowns. I think the stand up is might

2377
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 14: not be a watch because neo ma, I can't say

2378
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:46,679
Speaker 14: name what am I having a problem. Grod wins the fight, Guys.

2379
01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:48,920
Speaker 14: I just I like the underdog here a plus one eighty.

2380
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:50,599
Speaker 14: I think he's gonna stand up with him. I think

2381
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:52,160
Speaker 14: he's gonna piece him up. I like his kicks. I

2382
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:54,720
Speaker 14: like his takedowns as well. He's well rounded. He has

2383
01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:57,800
Speaker 14: some good finishes on there. Uh, and I like Grog.

2384
01:51:57,800 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 14: Give me, gimme grog, give me the underdog plus one eighty.

2385
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:03,360
Speaker 4: Let's go nicely done on the handicap and I'll help

2386
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:04,920
Speaker 4: you out a little bit. Yeah, get a pull of water,

2387
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:09,479
Speaker 4: Get a fucking pull of water. Naima, naima.

2388
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:11,679
Speaker 3: He's never pronounce right again.

2389
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 4: Probably you'll absolutely nail You'll absolutely nail it.

2390
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 10: Ken Flo.

2391
01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 4: Grod was knocked out by Big Train Tom Nolan on

2392
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:21,760
Speaker 4: Dana White's Contender series back in twenty twenty three. Worked

2393
01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 4: his way back to that show eventually the Big Show

2394
01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 4: and a pretty good test for him. Here is the

2395
01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:28,880
Speaker 4: underdog against Muhammad Naimov. How do you see a plan up?

2396
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:30,519
Speaker 3: This is a tough one for me.

2397
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:34,360
Speaker 6: I think Naimov obviously has more experience in the UFC,

2398
01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 6: but it's actually Grod who actually has more fights overall.

2399
01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 3: But Gorod is tough man, He's really good everywhere. I

2400
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 3: think he might be the more.

2401
01:52:43,479 --> 01:52:47,559
Speaker 6: Precise scrappler on the ground. Naimov may have the edge

2402
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:51,160
Speaker 6: when it comes to the takedown skills. I also think

2403
01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 6: Naimov is gonna be a little bit faster, but bogged

2404
01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:56,000
Speaker 6: on hits harder. So a lot of different ways that

2405
01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:58,479
Speaker 6: this fight can play play out. I'm gonna go the

2406
01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:01,679
Speaker 6: way of Naimov just because of his experience in the UFC.

2407
01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:04,880
Speaker 6: He's fought some tough guys already, He's proven himself as

2408
01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:08,240
Speaker 6: a fighter. Grod I can definitely see winning this fight,

2409
01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:12,200
Speaker 6: but just based on you know, their past history, I'm

2410
01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:13,679
Speaker 6: gonna lean the way of naim Off.

2411
01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:15,519
Speaker 7: All right.

2412
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 4: Next up on the main card on what is a

2413
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 4: big night in the men's lightweight division, Nazim Satakav minus

2414
01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:23,040
Speaker 4: four fifty five taken on Nicholas Moda, who is plus

2415
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 4: three fifty Brian Longo's wheels up to Azerbaijan team. Sarah

2416
01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 4: Longo's fighters still undefeated in the UFC. He finished Ismael

2417
01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:33,280
Speaker 4: Bond theme earlier this year and now spinning at forty

2418
01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 4: against Mota, who Longo did call basic. But basic has

2419
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:39,600
Speaker 4: worked right tough UFC start. He's now won two in

2420
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 4: a row. What are your thoughts on the price and

2421
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 4: ultimately we'll need a pick.

2422
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:45,920
Speaker 14: Yeah, Moda's powerful and especially in the pocket, So if

2423
01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:48,160
Speaker 14: you exchange with him, you know he is kind of

2424
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:49,920
Speaker 14: killer or be killed because he's been knocked out before.

2425
01:53:50,240 --> 01:53:52,120
Speaker 14: But if he lands on you, it's it's a good

2426
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 14: chance it's gonna hurt him, maybe even put you down.

2427
01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:56,320
Speaker 14: But I'm a Nas guy, man. I think Nas is

2428
01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:59,000
Speaker 14: a special fighter. I think he's really good, really well

2429
01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:01,160
Speaker 14: round it. We've seen that Harris McKinny fight, took him down,

2430
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:03,040
Speaker 14: took his back, choked him out. He's also coming off

2431
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:05,559
Speaker 14: a really big knockout win over one of the Baffien brothers.

2432
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 3: Nas.

2433
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:07,960
Speaker 14: I mean, I wish we're getting a better price here

2434
01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:10,760
Speaker 14: at minus four fifty five. I agree with the line.

2435
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:14,000
Speaker 14: I think Nas is prime and and he's getting priced right.

2436
01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:16,360
Speaker 14: I just wish as a selfish gambler where you're getting

2437
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:16,920
Speaker 14: a better price.

2438
01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:17,759
Speaker 3: I like Nas.

2439
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:20,880
Speaker 14: I like nas by finished big here. It's a good

2440
01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:22,720
Speaker 14: spot form right now. I think he's gonna show out.

2441
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:24,920
Speaker 14: You know this is he called for this spot on

2442
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 14: this card. I think they could have fed him anybody.

2443
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:29,760
Speaker 14: But after he gets past Moda. No disrespect to Mota here,

2444
01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:31,439
Speaker 14: but after he gets past Moto or if he gets

2445
01:54:31,479 --> 01:54:34,120
Speaker 14: past Moda, I think we're getting big fights now for

2446
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:35,400
Speaker 14: Nas because I think he's not good.

2447
01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:38,760
Speaker 4: Oddsmaker is a great minus four to fifty five against

2448
01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 4: Mota who comes back plus three fifty can flow your thoughts,

2449
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:43,280
Speaker 4: you know, I.

2450
01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 6: Think this is pretty straightforward. I think sadi Koff is

2451
01:54:46,400 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 6: the more technical fighter overall. I think that he's the

2452
01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:53,240
Speaker 6: better striker. I think we should see this fight play

2453
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 6: out mostly on the feet, but even when it comes

2454
01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:57,520
Speaker 6: to the wrestling game, I think he should be the

2455
01:54:57,560 --> 01:55:00,400
Speaker 6: better wrestler there too. Positionally, though, he he's gotta be

2456
01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 6: careful with Mota on the ground. I think Mota is

2457
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:05,400
Speaker 6: probably gonna have the better submission game. However, as long

2458
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:09,600
Speaker 6: as Sardikoff does not decide to take the hardest route

2459
01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:12,360
Speaker 6: to victory, and just start brawling. I think this is

2460
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:15,320
Speaker 6: a pretty clear win for nas now, but we have

2461
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:17,800
Speaker 6: seen him play into that hand a little bit, so

2462
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:20,120
Speaker 6: he's not afraid to go in there and throw down.

2463
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 6: You do not want to do that against someone like Mota, though,

2464
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:25,680
Speaker 6: who does throw very hard. The guy has ten knockouts

2465
01:55:26,920 --> 01:55:29,160
Speaker 6: and maybe not the most technical guy, but he's got

2466
01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 6: power and speed, so he's got to watch out for that.

2467
01:55:31,240 --> 01:55:34,840
Speaker 6: But gimme Naz all right, next up at lightweight, and

2468
01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:36,120
Speaker 6: I believe I misspoke earlier.

2469
01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:40,680
Speaker 4: Mucktbeck. Oralby is Kyrgyzstan and not Kazakhstan, so I beg

2470
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:43,760
Speaker 4: your pardon. No line on his fight here against Tafik

2471
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:48,360
Speaker 4: Musayev UFC debut for Azerbaijan's Mussaia If. He has twenty

2472
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 4: seven pro MMA fights, though one twenty two of the

2473
01:55:51,200 --> 01:55:54,480
Speaker 4: eight team by knockout. Brian biggest win came against Petricky Pittbull.

2474
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:58,040
Speaker 4: He beat him and Johnny Case on the same night actually,

2475
01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:01,960
Speaker 4: and now he draws oral By, the twenty seven year

2476
01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:04,880
Speaker 4: old out of Kyrgyzstan, who figures to be the better

2477
01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:07,280
Speaker 4: favorite here. But no line as yet on DraftKings Sports book.

2478
01:56:07,320 --> 01:56:10,839
Speaker 14: VP Gahead yeah, Massaiah is at this is a banger

2479
01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:12,440
Speaker 14: will fight. By the way, for people who don't know,

2480
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:14,440
Speaker 14: I don't want to steal Dan and White's thing. Now

2481
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:17,560
Speaker 14: you know this is gonna be a banger Mussia former

2482
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 14: champion in Risen and Risen is a real deal promotion

2483
01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:22,400
Speaker 14: the lighter weight guys, and he's fifty five. He's not

2484
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:24,520
Speaker 14: the smallest kin in the world. The lighter weeight guys

2485
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:27,880
Speaker 14: that come from Risen are usually electric and this guy's

2486
01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:30,600
Speaker 14: tape he puts it on people like Darren Krookshank is

2487
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:32,760
Speaker 14: a very good striker. UFC was on the Alten Fighter

2488
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:35,160
Speaker 14: Live really great fight with him for Tricky Bipple was

2489
01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:37,640
Speaker 14: absolute war. This guy can grap a little bit and

2490
01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:41,440
Speaker 14: he's got big big power, great chin, good cardio or

2491
01:56:41,600 --> 01:56:43,800
Speaker 14: by this guy's coming off, I mean he got his

2492
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:48,680
Speaker 14: face rearranged by Ron Becky, but never quit, kept pushing forward.

2493
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:50,880
Speaker 14: The guy's got an iron will and an iron chin

2494
01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:53,280
Speaker 14: and almost won the fighters a split decision lost for him.

2495
01:56:53,680 --> 01:56:55,920
Speaker 14: He's specially a young guy's twenty seven years old. I

2496
01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:58,400
Speaker 14: think he's got some good grappling. I think Moussia's got

2497
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:00,280
Speaker 14: good grappling. When he's on top, he likes a round

2498
01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:02,600
Speaker 14: and pound, but when he's on his back, he's given

2499
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:04,200
Speaker 14: up a lot of submissions on his name. You know

2500
01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:06,680
Speaker 14: his losses, A lot of them come by submissions. Or

2501
01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:09,240
Speaker 14: By isn't like world class with submissions. He's got a

2502
01:57:09,280 --> 01:57:10,960
Speaker 14: couple in this game. But I think if war Bi

2503
01:57:11,080 --> 01:57:13,680
Speaker 14: gets him down, I think we're looking at a good

2504
01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:16,200
Speaker 14: victory him. But I see this fight being an absolute banger.

2505
01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 3: I price Orbi.

2506
01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 14: I know we don't have a line on on my price,

2507
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 14: and maybe at like one seventy minus one seventy one fifty,

2508
01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:24,160
Speaker 14: I think that's a good price because he's got the

2509
01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:25,760
Speaker 14: UFC Veterans status to him.

2510
01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:28,080
Speaker 3: Give me Warby. I flip back and forth on this,

2511
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:29,240
Speaker 3: but give me Warby.

2512
01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:33,800
Speaker 4: Can't flow oral By returning. As Brian mentioned after that

2513
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:37,560
Speaker 4: absolutely epic fight with Mattalos round Betski that was last

2514
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:40,360
Speaker 4: October UFC threeh eight, how to see him doing here

2515
01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:42,120
Speaker 4: against Mousaiah.

2516
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:45,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, just crazy fight, crazy heart shown in that fight

2517
01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:50,240
Speaker 6: against rom Besky. I think that he's gonna be down

2518
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:52,800
Speaker 6: on speed here in this fight against Musaiyev, who is

2519
01:57:52,920 --> 01:57:55,600
Speaker 6: extremely fast, especially with those kicks to the head. So

2520
01:57:55,720 --> 01:57:58,840
Speaker 6: he's gonna have to mind his p's and q's there. However,

2521
01:57:59,200 --> 01:58:04,200
Speaker 6: U doubt the durability and heart after seeing orl By

2522
01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:09,920
Speaker 6: go three hard rounds against Matteos Aroumbeski. So I'm gonna

2523
01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:11,520
Speaker 6: go with orl By. I think if you can get

2524
01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:13,480
Speaker 6: it done with his wrestling, I agree, Brian. I think

2525
01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 6: he should put Masaia on his back. I think that's

2526
01:58:16,640 --> 01:58:20,040
Speaker 6: his easiest path to victory. But he can strike as well,

2527
01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:22,160
Speaker 6: especially if he loosens up with his strikes a little bit.

2528
01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 6: Sometimes he's a little bit too tight, which takes away

2529
01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:28,840
Speaker 6: from his speed. But yeah, I think he's got to

2530
01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:31,560
Speaker 6: mix in those strikes and hit those takedowns against beside.

2531
01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:33,919
Speaker 3: If he's able to do that, I think he wins.

2532
01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:38,919
Speaker 4: This one all right. Moving on to the heavyweight division,

2533
01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:43,560
Speaker 4: Curtis Blades Monus two to ninety, rizvonkune of plus two

2534
01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:47,200
Speaker 4: thirty five. So, Brian, some dates for you. February twenty second,

2535
01:58:47,320 --> 01:58:51,280
Speaker 4: March eighth, May seventeen. Finally it shall be done June

2536
01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:55,280
Speaker 4: twenty first. Fourth. Booking between these two heavyweights initially delayed

2537
01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:57,480
Speaker 4: a couple weeks, then Blades fell ill, then it was

2538
01:58:57,560 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 4: postponed again, and now it'll be Baku Blades putting his

2539
01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:02,760
Speaker 4: top five ranking on the line against the UFC newcomer

2540
01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:07,000
Speaker 4: and two time Contender Series veteran Risvan Kudiev out of

2541
01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 4: Mahash call it Russia, PP Who do you have in

2542
01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 4: this one?

2543
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:13,600
Speaker 14: No disrespect to Kunyev, the lack of ego and Curtis

2544
01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:16,520
Speaker 14: Blades to accept this fight right. UFC newcomer Curs Blades

2545
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:19,040
Speaker 14: has been around forever, He's fought everyone. I know he

2546
01:59:19,080 --> 01:59:21,360
Speaker 14: has a couple of loss but like lack of ego, Like,

2547
01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:23,560
Speaker 14: fuck it. If they're giving me this guy three times, now,

2548
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:26,080
Speaker 14: let's do it. I'll fight anybody. I love the man

2549
01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:28,160
Speaker 14: mindset with Curtis Blade, so that means to me he's

2550
01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:30,960
Speaker 14: not overlooking this guy. Because Kuniev's biggest win is when

2551
01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:33,320
Speaker 14: he and then he pissed hot so he got taken away.

2552
01:59:33,520 --> 01:59:36,560
Speaker 14: He's got two Contender Series victories. They passed on the

2553
01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:38,640
Speaker 14: first time, which was a lack lesser performance. Then he

2554
01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:40,560
Speaker 14: got a good finish. But both those guys haven't won

2555
01:59:40,640 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 14: a fight since the Contendent Series, so.

2556
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:45,200
Speaker 3: The quality of wins there, what are they?

2557
01:59:45,240 --> 01:59:45,320
Speaker 7: You know?

2558
01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:47,760
Speaker 14: Kunyev again six to four good striker, likes to play

2559
01:59:47,800 --> 01:59:48,160
Speaker 14: on the grounds.

2560
01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:50,800
Speaker 3: Well, he's got some good chokes, But Curtis Blades is

2561
01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:51,400
Speaker 3: a big boy.

2562
01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:53,720
Speaker 14: He's fast on the feet, and he only loses to

2563
01:59:53,840 --> 01:59:56,280
Speaker 14: the elite guys with big, big power.

2564
01:59:56,320 --> 01:59:59,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, Koonyev can one touch Curtis Blaze. I

2565
01:59:59,360 --> 01:59:59,880
Speaker 3: could be wrong.

2566
02:00:00,120 --> 02:00:01,920
Speaker 14: They're big guys. We can see what happens. But also

2567
02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:04,800
Speaker 14: Curtis blades athleticism and his wrestling I think are gonna

2568
02:00:04,920 --> 02:00:08,560
Speaker 14: really show. You know, there's levels to this game, right,

2569
02:00:08,640 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 14: we say that a lot. I think there's this is

2570
02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:13,160
Speaker 14: a big levels fight here. Gimme Curtis Blades. I think

2571
02:00:13,200 --> 02:00:14,800
Speaker 14: he can maybe get a finish. I don't know if

2572
02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:17,160
Speaker 14: I'll play that yet unless it's very juicy, unless we're

2573
02:00:17,160 --> 02:00:20,000
Speaker 14: getting like six to one. But Curtis Blaze by decision

2574
02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:21,880
Speaker 14: is also good bet here. But I think he's gonna

2575
02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:24,840
Speaker 14: lean on his wrestling, in his over athleticism, and Curtis

2576
02:00:24,920 --> 02:00:27,120
Speaker 14: can strike two. And I've seen the guy in person

2577
02:00:27,480 --> 02:00:30,760
Speaker 14: and he's fucking enormous. So here, Curtis Razor Blades, Yeah,

2578
02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:31,280
Speaker 14: he's a big boy.

2579
02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:33,440
Speaker 4: Kem flow. Not the first time you guys have picked

2580
02:00:33,480 --> 02:00:35,720
Speaker 4: this fight. Blades hasn't fought since the loss to Tommy

2581
02:00:35,720 --> 02:00:37,800
Speaker 4: Aspin all eleven months ago UFC three to zero, four

2582
02:00:38,280 --> 02:00:41,000
Speaker 4: thirteen and five for Blades, with a no contest in

2583
02:00:41,040 --> 02:00:43,280
Speaker 4: the UFC. As he arrives at his twentieth UFC appearance

2584
02:00:43,320 --> 02:00:45,560
Speaker 4: here against risbond Kutiev.

2585
02:00:46,480 --> 02:00:47,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen Cootiev.

2586
02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:49,400
Speaker 6: Had a chance to interview him when he fought over

2587
02:00:49,440 --> 02:00:51,800
Speaker 6: in the PFL, had a chance to call his fight.

2588
02:00:51,960 --> 02:00:54,400
Speaker 6: Fought a very tough guy in Hendon Fejeda, and he

2589
02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:57,960
Speaker 6: looked pretty good in that fight. I just don't think

2590
02:00:58,480 --> 02:01:00,680
Speaker 6: he grappling and striking, though, is going to be up

2591
02:01:00,680 --> 02:01:03,000
Speaker 6: to par with someone like Curtis Blades. I don't see

2592
02:01:03,040 --> 02:01:05,960
Speaker 6: him being a big time threat when it comes to

2593
02:01:06,040 --> 02:01:08,880
Speaker 6: the takedown game. I think Blades has him on the

2594
02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:11,800
Speaker 6: wrestling there. So in regards to the striking, yeah, they're

2595
02:01:11,840 --> 02:01:14,320
Speaker 6: two big guys heavyweight to land a good shot. You know,

2596
02:01:14,440 --> 02:01:17,640
Speaker 6: Kuniev could hurt Blades certainly, but I think Blades is

2597
02:01:17,640 --> 02:01:20,640
Speaker 6: going to be the more technical striker here. As long

2598
02:01:20,680 --> 02:01:25,000
Speaker 6: as Blades is coming into this fight respecting a Kuniev,

2599
02:01:25,080 --> 02:01:26,760
Speaker 6: I think he wins his fight and probably wins this

2600
02:01:26,840 --> 02:01:28,240
Speaker 6: fight pretty easily.

2601
02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:30,480
Speaker 3: So give me Curtis blades all right.

2602
02:01:30,520 --> 02:01:33,040
Speaker 4: Now to the comain event the lightweight divisioning Nacio ba

2603
02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:36,280
Speaker 4: Mundez minus one twelve taken on Raphael Fhazive who is

2604
02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:39,440
Speaker 4: minus one oh eight. So natcho close friend of the show,

2605
02:01:40,040 --> 02:01:42,120
Speaker 4: Our team can flow and everybody else has spent a

2606
02:01:42,160 --> 02:01:44,720
Speaker 4: lot of time around this man. And the only time

2607
02:01:44,760 --> 02:01:48,000
Speaker 4: I ever worked Dana White's Contender series in November of

2608
02:01:48,040 --> 02:01:50,880
Speaker 4: twenty twenty, he competed in won. So I've essentially been

2609
02:01:50,920 --> 02:01:53,440
Speaker 4: tracking this kids every move for five years and now

2610
02:01:53,560 --> 02:01:56,840
Speaker 4: bry on the cusp of potential greatness in the lightweight

2611
02:01:56,880 --> 02:01:59,720
Speaker 4: division should he get past the credentialed number eleven ranked

2612
02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:02,560
Speaker 4: Raphael Fhazebe. Who do you like in the co main.

2613
02:02:02,480 --> 02:02:04,560
Speaker 3: VP strikers to life here?

2614
02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:08,520
Speaker 14: Ifaziv is literally might be like a perfect striker, right,

2615
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:10,760
Speaker 14: the only thing and they plagues him. He doesn't really

2616
02:02:10,800 --> 02:02:13,360
Speaker 14: have length, right, but his leg kicks is you know,

2617
02:02:13,800 --> 02:02:17,880
Speaker 14: bringing his hands back right and then also unpredictability. His

2618
02:02:18,040 --> 02:02:21,240
Speaker 14: spins are really dynamic and you can't really he doesn't

2619
02:02:21,280 --> 02:02:23,280
Speaker 14: telegraph him like he's a special dude.

2620
02:02:23,560 --> 02:02:24,880
Speaker 3: And he also can grapple a little bit.

2621
02:02:24,920 --> 02:02:27,640
Speaker 14: He's at short stocky bill that can mix in some takedowns,

2622
02:02:27,680 --> 02:02:32,160
Speaker 14: and that's where I think he could give Ba Mondez problems,

2623
02:02:32,240 --> 02:02:35,040
Speaker 14: right is. Ba Mondes has gotten taken down by guys

2624
02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:36,920
Speaker 14: like a little bit climb before, but he's worked on it.

2625
02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:39,200
Speaker 14: And I love the gym that he's at with those

2626
02:02:39,400 --> 02:02:43,520
Speaker 14: absolute dogs in Chicago, being very overlooked in Chicago.

2627
02:02:43,720 --> 02:02:45,200
Speaker 3: Those Chicago guys, they're coming in.

2628
02:02:45,480 --> 02:02:47,880
Speaker 14: They're coming in fearless what you guys talked about earlier,

2629
02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:49,840
Speaker 14: because Ball Mondez goes for it, right.

2630
02:02:50,080 --> 02:02:51,320
Speaker 3: He uses his length really well.

2631
02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:54,760
Speaker 14: He's tough as shit, He's getting better as he goes,

2632
02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:56,680
Speaker 14: and the cardio is going to be for the there

2633
02:02:56,760 --> 02:02:59,000
Speaker 14: for days. BA mund is going in there knowing I'm

2634
02:02:59,000 --> 02:03:01,120
Speaker 14: going against a good striker. I'm gonna leave bloody, and

2635
02:03:01,200 --> 02:03:03,880
Speaker 14: he encourages that. He welcomes that. And I love that

2636
02:03:04,000 --> 02:03:06,280
Speaker 14: about this kid. And I'm not just saying this because

2637
02:03:06,360 --> 02:03:09,080
Speaker 14: he's close with Blau and all this stuff with the podcast.

2638
02:03:09,160 --> 02:03:11,200
Speaker 14: I've been on this guy from day one. I lost

2639
02:03:11,240 --> 02:03:13,240
Speaker 14: some money on him with a j mcdefsey fight and

2640
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:15,880
Speaker 14: he has won it back four times over. I just

2641
02:03:15,960 --> 02:03:19,120
Speaker 14: think the length of him in the willingness to exchange

2642
02:03:19,240 --> 02:03:21,880
Speaker 14: is going to be special because even though you know

2643
02:03:22,600 --> 02:03:25,600
Speaker 14: he's fighting up a guy who maybe has a little

2644
02:03:25,680 --> 02:03:28,640
Speaker 14: more experience, has fought Justin Gaetgee twice and has some

2645
02:03:28,720 --> 02:03:30,800
Speaker 14: really good wins and really good records. Ball Mondays is

2646
02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:33,200
Speaker 14: on that cuffs and I think he's gonna get over

2647
02:03:33,280 --> 02:03:34,960
Speaker 14: this hill here. I think he's gonna win. I think

2648
02:03:34,960 --> 02:03:36,680
Speaker 14: it's gonna be a phenomenal fight. I like the over

2649
02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:38,720
Speaker 14: as well. I don't think either guy's gonna finish. I

2650
02:03:38,760 --> 02:03:40,520
Speaker 14: think it's gonna be a striker's light and I cannot

2651
02:03:40,600 --> 02:03:41,240
Speaker 14: fucking wait.

2652
02:03:42,240 --> 02:03:44,760
Speaker 4: Ken Filler last went for Rafael Fazive three years ago.

2653
02:03:44,800 --> 02:03:47,920
Speaker 4: The knockout of Hafayel Dosanjo's injuries had been a part

2654
02:03:47,960 --> 02:03:51,240
Speaker 4: of that, of course, but Bob Mondays with the momentum

2655
02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:53,960
Speaker 4: to be sure right, Manuell torres its sphere Jalen Turner

2656
02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:56,920
Speaker 4: by submission UFC three thirteen three straight performance of the

2657
02:03:57,000 --> 02:04:01,160
Speaker 4: night bonuses, earning him this fight against Rafael as fascinated

2658
02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:05,080
Speaker 4: to see on which side you fall? Can flow go ahead?

2659
02:04:05,720 --> 02:04:06,040
Speaker 3: That's right.

2660
02:04:06,080 --> 02:04:07,880
Speaker 6: You know the thing that I look the most at

2661
02:04:07,960 --> 02:04:10,280
Speaker 6: are the last four fights, and it's interesting that the

2662
02:04:10,360 --> 02:04:13,400
Speaker 6: UFC is matching these guys together. You have physive one

2663
02:04:13,440 --> 02:04:15,040
Speaker 6: in three in the last four fights on a bit

2664
02:04:15,080 --> 02:04:17,160
Speaker 6: of a losing streak here and Bob Mundees of course

2665
02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:20,360
Speaker 6: three and one in the last four fights. So absolutely

2666
02:04:20,760 --> 02:04:23,800
Speaker 6: Ignacio has more momentum heading into this fight. But make

2667
02:04:23,840 --> 02:04:24,879
Speaker 6: no mistake about.

2668
02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:26,960
Speaker 3: This, this is a very dangerous fight for him.

2669
02:04:27,000 --> 02:04:27,200
Speaker 7: Why.

2670
02:04:27,320 --> 02:04:30,000
Speaker 3: Physive is a tremendous striker. He's very dangerous.

2671
02:04:30,280 --> 02:04:32,680
Speaker 6: He's got nothing to lose, I think heading into this

2672
02:04:32,760 --> 02:04:35,960
Speaker 6: fight in a lot of ways. But can his lack

2673
02:04:36,040 --> 02:04:39,000
Speaker 6: of size, you know, be a factor in this fight.

2674
02:04:39,080 --> 02:04:39,600
Speaker 3: I think it can.

2675
02:04:39,720 --> 02:04:41,960
Speaker 6: I think for Bob Mondez, I think he's got to

2676
02:04:42,040 --> 02:04:44,440
Speaker 6: keep Physique on the outside and when they are on

2677
02:04:44,560 --> 02:04:47,480
Speaker 6: the inside, that's where I think Bob Mundees maybe can

2678
02:04:47,560 --> 02:04:49,160
Speaker 6: mix things up with his grappling. I think he's going

2679
02:04:49,240 --> 02:04:51,160
Speaker 6: to have a huge advantage, especially if he's able to

2680
02:04:51,200 --> 02:04:52,480
Speaker 6: get this fight to hit the ground.

2681
02:04:53,120 --> 02:04:55,400
Speaker 3: Physive is not an easy guy to take down.

2682
02:04:55,440 --> 02:04:57,320
Speaker 6: But if he's able to take him down and get

2683
02:04:57,400 --> 02:04:59,840
Speaker 6: positioned get on top, I think that's where Gnacio.

2684
02:04:59,600 --> 02:05:00,480
Speaker 3: Really can take over.

2685
02:05:00,760 --> 02:05:03,360
Speaker 6: And we saw him, you know, be extremely dangerous off

2686
02:05:03,400 --> 02:05:06,120
Speaker 6: of his back as well, so I think as far

2687
02:05:06,160 --> 02:05:08,560
Speaker 6: as you know, potency of submissions, bon Moundes has a

2688
02:05:08,640 --> 02:05:10,680
Speaker 6: Mayor when it comes to striking, I think the Zive

2689
02:05:11,040 --> 02:05:12,880
Speaker 6: is maybe a little bit more dangerous when it comes

2690
02:05:12,920 --> 02:05:14,400
Speaker 6: to knockout power.

2691
02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:17,920
Speaker 3: But can bam Mundes knock him out? Yes he can.

2692
02:05:18,440 --> 02:05:22,040
Speaker 6: His length, his size, his versatility, his toughness I think

2693
02:05:22,120 --> 02:05:25,680
Speaker 6: will make up for maybe a lack of physical advantage

2694
02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:29,840
Speaker 6: against Physive. So give me the momentum and size and

2695
02:05:30,200 --> 02:05:32,280
Speaker 6: overall versatility of bo Onndz.

2696
02:05:33,160 --> 02:05:34,840
Speaker 4: All right, well done, kid. That brings us to the

2697
02:05:34,920 --> 02:05:36,880
Speaker 4: light heavyweight main event and we'll go right back to you,

2698
02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:39,000
Speaker 4: Ken Flow to lead us off on this one. Khalil

2699
02:05:39,600 --> 02:05:43,240
Speaker 4: round Tree Junior minus one sixty two. Jamal Sweet Dreams

2700
02:05:43,320 --> 02:05:46,040
Speaker 4: Hill is plus one thirty six. So been a tough

2701
02:05:46,160 --> 02:05:48,680
Speaker 4: winless couple of years for Jamal Hill since he won

2702
02:05:48,720 --> 02:05:51,400
Speaker 4: the light heavyweight title. That was in January of twenty

2703
02:05:51,480 --> 02:05:54,040
Speaker 4: twenty three against Glover to Shia. This fight, of course,

2704
02:05:54,200 --> 02:05:55,880
Speaker 4: was going to be the main event Kenny in Kansas

2705
02:05:55,880 --> 02:05:59,760
Speaker 4: City back in April, but Hill was forced to withdraw rebooked.

2706
02:05:59,800 --> 02:06:03,640
Speaker 4: And who do you like, Kenfelo Rountree Junior the favorite

2707
02:06:03,800 --> 02:06:04,960
Speaker 4: or Jamal Hill the dock.

2708
02:06:05,480 --> 02:06:07,720
Speaker 6: I think this is gonna be another exciting fight, and

2709
02:06:08,080 --> 02:06:11,360
Speaker 6: you gotta wonder. You know what kind of confidence that

2710
02:06:11,520 --> 02:06:13,600
Speaker 6: did for for Roundtree. You know, coming off of his

2711
02:06:13,720 --> 02:06:17,200
Speaker 6: last fight against Pereira. I think that, uh it's he

2712
02:06:17,400 --> 02:06:19,840
Speaker 6: gained a lot of confidence from that fight. Despite getting

2713
02:06:19,880 --> 02:06:22,920
Speaker 6: the loss, I think he had two really good rounds

2714
02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:25,760
Speaker 6: against one of the most dominant strikers in light heavyweight

2715
02:06:25,880 --> 02:06:28,800
Speaker 6: UFC history, and I think that will carry with him

2716
02:06:28,800 --> 02:06:31,040
Speaker 6: here into this fight against Jamal Hill, who also is

2717
02:06:31,200 --> 02:06:35,080
Speaker 6: very dangerous, but not as versatile as someone like Pereira.

2718
02:06:35,320 --> 02:06:38,560
Speaker 6: I think Hill has knockout power, he's got speed, he

2719
02:06:38,640 --> 02:06:41,200
Speaker 6: has very good timing as well, but I think his

2720
02:06:41,360 --> 02:06:43,839
Speaker 6: big crutch for him is going to be his footwork,

2721
02:06:44,280 --> 02:06:47,880
Speaker 6: his stance. Heading into this fight, Roundtree is so good

2722
02:06:47,960 --> 02:06:51,280
Speaker 6: at chopping those legs down and landing with combinations. Now,

2723
02:06:51,640 --> 02:06:55,160
Speaker 6: Roundtree used to have a lack of confidence when when

2724
02:06:55,200 --> 02:06:57,840
Speaker 6: it came to putting punches together. He would only kind

2725
02:06:57,880 --> 02:06:59,960
Speaker 6: of do that when he'd get you hurt. But now

2726
02:07:00,000 --> 02:07:02,240
Speaker 6: now he's not afraid to put together two, three, four,

2727
02:07:02,600 --> 02:07:06,480
Speaker 6: five strike combinations and then get out. He's shown a

2728
02:07:06,560 --> 02:07:09,280
Speaker 6: lot more intelligence when he goes out there to compete,

2729
02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:11,640
Speaker 6: and I think we're gonna see an even better version

2730
02:07:11,680 --> 02:07:14,920
Speaker 6: of Khalil Rountree in here, and you know, coming back

2731
02:07:14,960 --> 02:07:17,240
Speaker 6: from a surgery like Jamal Hill has come back from,

2732
02:07:17,680 --> 02:07:19,640
Speaker 6: you know, some guys are never the same. We've seen

2733
02:07:19,680 --> 02:07:22,760
Speaker 6: a lot of guys, whether it's basketball, football, come back

2734
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:27,160
Speaker 6: from you know, achilles tears and it's not an easy

2735
02:07:27,240 --> 02:07:28,600
Speaker 6: one to come back from. It leads to a lot

2736
02:07:28,640 --> 02:07:32,200
Speaker 6: of other problems as well. So I think for Jamal

2737
02:07:32,960 --> 02:07:38,760
Speaker 6: it's tough to improve your footwork overnight. I think Jamal

2738
02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:40,640
Speaker 6: still has a lot of upside. I think there's a

2739
02:07:40,680 --> 02:07:42,320
Speaker 6: lot of stuff he can gain from the fight. He's

2740
02:07:42,320 --> 02:07:44,680
Speaker 6: getting better overall as a fighter. But I just think

2741
02:07:44,760 --> 02:07:49,600
Speaker 6: Khalil has improved that much more and I think it's

2742
02:07:49,680 --> 02:07:52,160
Speaker 6: Roundtree's fight to lose. So give me Khalil Rowntree. Pretty

2743
02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:52,920
Speaker 6: confident on that one.

2744
02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:56,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it wasn't just fans that were accrued

2745
02:07:56,600 --> 02:07:59,000
Speaker 4: by Khalil Rowntree Junior and going toe to toe with

2746
02:07:59,040 --> 02:08:01,680
Speaker 4: Alex Padata last October a UFC three zero seven. It's

2747
02:08:01,720 --> 02:08:04,480
Speaker 4: all the confidence and you just feel like Briy, he's

2748
02:08:04,520 --> 02:08:07,520
Speaker 4: gonna be a particularly hard man and harder man to

2749
02:08:07,640 --> 02:08:10,640
Speaker 4: beat now going forward. Jamal Hill is an outstanding athlete.

2750
02:08:10,640 --> 02:08:12,480
Speaker 4: He's been there, He's done that. We'll see the form

2751
02:08:12,560 --> 02:08:14,880
Speaker 4: in which he shows up in BOOKU. We'd like a

2752
02:08:14,920 --> 02:08:16,600
Speaker 4: man event prediction VP. Who do you have?

2753
02:08:16,920 --> 02:08:19,600
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean that's why Kenny's the best. He's tough

2754
02:08:19,640 --> 02:08:21,120
Speaker 14: to follow. He hit all the points I want to

2755
02:08:21,200 --> 02:08:23,680
Speaker 14: hit on. I mean from round Street from the Ultimate

2756
02:08:23,760 --> 02:08:26,080
Speaker 14: Fighter to now is a different fighter. I mean, you

2757
02:08:26,200 --> 02:08:28,360
Speaker 14: watched the Marchine practicing goal fight where he was a favorite,

2758
02:08:28,360 --> 02:08:30,400
Speaker 14: where he should have won. He just shut himself down.

2759
02:08:30,800 --> 02:08:33,120
Speaker 14: That's a fight. That's a winnable fight against a striker

2760
02:08:33,200 --> 02:08:35,400
Speaker 14: who had been knocked up at that point. And now

2761
02:08:36,560 --> 02:08:38,960
Speaker 14: the big win streak, the mean streak, and then going

2762
02:08:39,040 --> 02:08:42,240
Speaker 14: against Poloton and not getting slept and dropping Poloton and

2763
02:08:42,440 --> 02:08:45,000
Speaker 14: just really be able to trust his chin and his

2764
02:08:45,120 --> 02:08:47,760
Speaker 14: cardio and his body and everything holding up. That's got

2765
02:08:47,880 --> 02:08:49,480
Speaker 14: to be a big boost. And then Jamal Hill coming

2766
02:08:49,520 --> 02:08:52,560
Speaker 14: off one of his worst performances in my opinion. You know,

2767
02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:54,640
Speaker 14: he was crossing his legs a lot when he was

2768
02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:57,520
Speaker 14: boxing and squaring up. That's like day one stuff that

2769
02:08:57,600 --> 02:08:59,960
Speaker 14: they don't want you to do. He was getting off balanced.

2770
02:09:00,000 --> 02:09:02,000
Speaker 14: I know, he's fighting YEARI who's kind of awkward, but

2771
02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:04,040
Speaker 14: it made him look really awkward as well. I was

2772
02:09:04,080 --> 02:09:07,040
Speaker 14: really surprised by that performance because I love sweet Jiam.

2773
02:09:07,080 --> 02:09:08,920
Speaker 14: I think Jamal Hill is a legit dude. He's got

2774
02:09:08,960 --> 02:09:11,040
Speaker 14: that long range. He's got a big heart. You know,

2775
02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:12,960
Speaker 14: he got dropped in a few times that fight. Didn't

2776
02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:15,440
Speaker 14: want to give up, and he still has powers. Those

2777
02:09:15,480 --> 02:09:18,040
Speaker 14: long range weapons he put in. His accuracy used to

2778
02:09:18,080 --> 02:09:20,400
Speaker 14: be deadly. We'll see if the accuracy can come back

2779
02:09:20,440 --> 02:09:22,800
Speaker 14: in Khalil. But Khalil has really good defense and those

2780
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Speaker 14: lag kicks are absolute money. I was there in Atlanta

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Speaker 14: where he beat up Eric Anders, you boy, and those

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Speaker 14: lay kicks with a loudest I've ever heard. I've never

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Speaker 14: been to an Apex card, but a full arena with

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Speaker 14: baseball bats to the legs in the body, I'm like, whoa.

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Speaker 3: It was crazy.

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Speaker 14: And now he's really coming into his own and believing

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Speaker 14: in himself, and that's a lot. You know, that's a

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Speaker 14: lot in Mma. I'm all over Round Tree as well.

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Speaker 14: I wanted to get there in Jamal Hill, former champion

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Speaker 14: Plus Money. We're looking good here.

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Speaker 3: I need the dogs, you know.

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Speaker 14: I want to make money and I like picking the

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Speaker 14: Plus Money guys. But I just think it's Roundtree's time here.

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Speaker 14: I think the loss, the championship loss, did more for

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Speaker 14: him than hurt him, and he's recovered, he's healthy, and

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Speaker 14: I saw him on social media looks. I mean, he's

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Speaker 14: always in great shape, but he looks absolutely just dense

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Speaker 14: and shredded. And I'm excited for this fight. This is

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Speaker 14: gonna be a really fun one. But yeah, give me

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Speaker 14: Roundtree all right.

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Speaker 4: Fellas always appreciate the early week handicap. Will continue to

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Speaker 4: monitor the lines on the DraftKings sports book as we

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Speaker 4: inched closer to fight time. But it is now time

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Speaker 4: to put your money where your mouth is. I actually

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Speaker 4: back to minus twelve thousand and change. You had a

2811
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Speaker 4: thousand bucks on Andre Petrowski that failed to cash. Florian

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Speaker 4: also gives back at dime. You lost both of you

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Speaker 4: straight bets on Cody Garbrand and Miranda Maverick close fights though,

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Speaker 4: so Florian's still in the black plus thirty two hundred

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Speaker 4: dollars in change. You guys got a thousand bucks to

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Speaker 4: spend here UFC fight night, he'll betry Junior VP. How

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Speaker 4: are we spending? Are one one thousand American dollars?

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Speaker 3: So you know I got the money hat on.

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Speaker 14: Today, I haven't warnered a little bit, and I kind

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Speaker 14: of went into a zen moode and I started listening

2821
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Speaker 14: to some Phil Ivy quotes. You know, Phil that he's

2822
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Speaker 14: not a sports gambler. You don't think about the money.

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Speaker 14: You don't think about the money, right, just think about

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Speaker 14: your place. So the money's out of my head. Give

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Speaker 14: me a five hundred dollars parlay, Johnny on nas and

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Speaker 14: blades that is not currently on draftings.

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Speaker 3: You get it right now.

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Speaker 14: That's minus one fifty six With those two together, two legger,

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02:11:27,200 --> 02:11:30,720
Speaker 14: that's five hundred bucks, right, and then don't sue me, John,

2830
02:11:30,800 --> 02:11:33,720
Speaker 14: but send them home early. I'm gonna get to send

2831
02:11:33,760 --> 02:11:36,000
Speaker 14: them home early. I'm gonna get nas by Ko as well.

2832
02:11:36,480 --> 02:11:38,320
Speaker 14: That the prop's not out yet, I'll get that to you.

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Speaker 14: But that's gonna two hundred and fifty dollars and they

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Speaker 14: and they give me grod as a dog shot here

2835
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Speaker 14: at plus one Eddy for another two hundred and fifty bucks,

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Speaker 14: spreading out.

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Speaker 4: Nicely done, Bry. We like the spread there. You can flow.

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Speaker 4: You got the lead. You got thousand dollars to spend?

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Speaker 4: Which direction you're going in? Kidding?

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Speaker 6: Okay, I'm gonna keep it simple, bro, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 6: with a thousand on Khalil Drone.

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Speaker 3: Feeling confident, Johnny, I love that.

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Speaker 4: Felt like you might go in that direction. Minus one

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Speaker 4: sixty two right now on DraftKings Sports Book and you'll

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Speaker 4: get plenty more mixed martial arts analysis later in the

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Speaker 4: week from Brian Petrie on the MMA Takes podcast. His

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Speaker 4: my man, have a great day and a better evening.

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Speaker 4: Much love your family. We'll talk to you this week.

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Speaker 14: Absolutely, Kenny, you look phenomenal. Johnny, you look great as always.

2851
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Speaker 14: I love the East East Coast glow on you. Let's

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Speaker 14: go again, Let's go.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, buddy. Have a great weekend. I'll see fights

2854
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Speaker 4: of the show's Kenny Flory, and that distinction used to

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