1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: We have the pleasure today of talking to one of 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: my favorite guys, Tony Jefferson. Three was available in the offseason. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think I'm gonna just give that 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: one up right away. So jumped on it. Yeah, how 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: to how to get that one back? Um? Is this 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: team can can go really far, especially with with Lamar 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: number eight. I feel like anything is possible. You got 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: a quarterback like that, and uh, you know, I'm just 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: like I said, I'm just excited. Man. This is this 10 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: is a great time to be to be a Raven. Honestly, 11 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. We have the 12 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: pleasure today of talking to one of my favorite guys, 13 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: Tony Jefferson. Uh, Tony is just awesome. He's just whenever 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: he's in the building, there's a different energy about it. 15 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: And um and he's got an incredible story now, you know, 16 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: going from a big time free to designing for the Ravens, 17 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 1: has a knee injury, has come all the way back 18 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: and prove himself all over again. So excited to talk 19 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: Tony about that journey. Yeah, we talked about peaks and 20 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: valleys in the NFL. Tony, somebody who's kind of seen 21 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: the highs of the highs with the big contracts and 22 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: the lows of the lows um and truly has had 23 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: to fight his way to last in the NFL. And uh, 24 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: it's I've liked what I've seen from him since he's 25 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: been back here, and like you said, like the energy. 26 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: I just went to the cafeteria to get Tony. He's 27 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: holding court at a table you know of great guys, 28 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: and and that's just kind of how he has carried 29 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: himself since he first came here as a free agent, 30 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: and everybody likes him, and he's one of the guys 31 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, just to kind of give listeners to perspective, 32 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: like Tony is one of those guys who gets to 33 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: know folks on the business side of the organization too. 34 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: He kind of knows everybody in the building and everybody's friend. 35 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: He's everybody's friend on the football side of the business side. 36 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if you would call you a friend 37 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: he was likening doing this podcast. I don't know. I'm out, 38 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm out. But he's just a great guy. And uh, 39 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: it's a privilege to get to talk to him today. 40 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: So we'll go ahead and chump into that interview thrilled 41 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: to have Tony Jefferson. We'll start here. There's a little 42 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: uh hubbub this offseason when Kyle Fooler was signed and 43 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: there was a little change about jersey number. You know, 44 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: I want to just clear the air here, right And 45 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, so he wore number twenty three previously, and 46 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: you know you wear number twenty three. So there's a 47 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: little confusion maybe about who was going to play. Just 48 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: clear it off for me. Would happened there. I think 49 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: certain people were confused. I don't think there was any confusion. 50 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: You were very clear. I mean I had to wear 51 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: a thirty one um last year. You know when I 52 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: first got back, which was fine. You know, I was 53 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: just happy to be able to play again and and 54 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: have a jergy number. And then uh, twenty three was 55 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: available in the offseason. I don't I don't think I'm 56 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 1: just give that one up right away. So jumped on it. Yeah, 57 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: how to how to get that one back? So yeah, 58 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: I I tweeted, you know who's gonna wear Tony cleared 59 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: it up real fast for me and gift for him. 60 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: Well your gift, your gift point. My gift game is 61 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: it's pretty Hall of Fame, like very strong, very strong. Yeah, 62 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: So I guess we want to talk about kind of 63 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: you know, your story now is really incredible. UM, and 64 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: let's really kind of just back up to the beginning 65 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: and talk about you know, undrafted, go to the Cardinals, 66 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: really prove yourself as a big time player in this league. 67 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: You know, sign here, big time free agent signing for 68 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: US in starter you know, a lot of success with 69 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: very successful defenses here, and then the knee injury happens 70 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: early in Um, so let's just jump into it, man. 71 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: I mean, like, what's running through your mind when you 72 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: go down in October in Pittsburgh. I believe it was right, Yeah, 73 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: I believe that was week five. Um, it was. It 74 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: was kind of a tough time. UM. You know, once 75 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: I once I happened, I kind of you know, like 76 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: I like I always say, I try to put myself 77 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: in GM mode most of the time when it comes 78 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: to contracts and and foreseeable future type deals. And I understand, 79 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: I understood where I where I stood. That was kind 80 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: of my contractor year. All the guaranteed money that UM 81 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: was the awarded to me was already given. So, UM, 82 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: I know I really had to go out there and 83 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: have a good year and prove myself you know that 84 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: I can earn my key. Um, And I just remember 85 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: just that that season I didn't really start off the 86 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: way I really wanted to. I don't think we did 87 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: as a whole. As a defense, we didn't really click 88 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: how we wanted to in the beginning. Um, But you know, 89 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: that's just how the game goes, you know what I mean. 90 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: People go out there that it's a tough game, it's 91 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: a rough game, and people get hurt, and um, you 92 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: never think it's gonna happen to you. That was my 93 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: first like really big injury ever in my life. So, UM, 94 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: I just remember that feeling. I mean I couldn't feel 95 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: my leg at the time, but I felt in my 96 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: heart like something drastic was about to happen. Um, as 97 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: far as like football lives for me, So when it 98 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: happens on the field, Like how long from the time 99 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: you come into the locker room and you're like on 100 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: the plane, Like at what point does it kind of 101 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: set in like all of that stuff that you're talking about, 102 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: Like are you thinking about all that in the moment? 103 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: Like what is kind of that thought process as you 104 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: go through sort of the stages of acceptance of your 105 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: knee is not in good shape. Yeah, I mean, it's 106 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: kind of it starts off right when it happens for me, 107 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: just because, like I said, I just knew like how 108 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: big a year was supposed to be for me, and 109 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: just how I felt with my name. I'm like, this 110 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: is a pretty bad injury I felt. I mean, I 111 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: couldn't put any obviously a new pressure on it, and 112 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: it was was it beyond it was more in a 113 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: C L and L C a c O. It was 114 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: my L C L and then some more damage elsewhere, 115 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: which made the recovery even tougher for me. A lot 116 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: of a lot of people don't understand what's just because 117 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: you hear a c L. They once you have other 118 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: like um ligaments torn, it makes makes a lot tougher 119 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: the recovery process. Why so it doesn't take um as 120 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: short as time as it would be if it was 121 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: just a C C. Right, So so what is that 122 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: the rest of that year? Like you know, that's the 123 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: twenty nineties season, and obviously that was like this great 124 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: year you go fourteen to two and all that. But 125 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: I gotta like, I know, when I've talked to guys 126 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: who have been injured in the past, like it's tough 127 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: because like you're very much and especially like at that 128 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: point you were one of the team leaders. You're like 129 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: one of the guys who was one of the most 130 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: vocal players. But at the same time, like I'm sure 131 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: other players have told me, like you almost feel disassociated 132 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: to a certain extent because like you can't be playing 133 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: and it's hard to have that same sort of attitude. 134 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: How did you feel during that season? Oh, I mean 135 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: it was kind of rough because I think the team 136 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: winning one like thirteen or twelve games in a row, right, 137 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: So you know, I'm hurt and I'm like, wow, so 138 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: the team is actually like a lot better with that. 139 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: You know, he had made some trades, got Peter's um. 140 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: You know, he kind of revamped a little bit of that. 141 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: It did, I mean it did. I've always I've always 142 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: wanted the opportunity be able to play with Peters just 143 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: from watching watching him play. And then you know, we 144 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: made some moves and you know L J. Ford and 145 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: other guys came in and you know, we really went 146 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: on a run. And I wasn't really a part of that. Um, 147 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: I was sticking around, you know for rehabbing stuff. But 148 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't even walk, you know what I mean. I 149 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: was away for surgery. So it was kind of tough 150 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: for me mentally to try and like be dialed in, 151 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: but um, I still just wanted to be I think 152 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: the best thing for me at that time was just 153 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: trying to be around the guys, um, just because I 154 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: had my that's where my heart was, you know, is 155 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: here and being around the facility with everyone, coaches and 156 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: so um that kind of helped me through the process. 157 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: But once it was over, that kind of that was 158 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: really when it's sunk in, Like, Okay, now you're about 159 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: to be jobless and you're going to have to recover 160 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: from this tough injury, so right, and you know, the 161 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: Ravens released you the following off season, and and like 162 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: you said, it was like you're injured, you know, you're rehabbing. 163 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,119 Speaker 1: Like that's a tough moment. Like what were you thinking 164 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: at that time about what your prospects in the NFL were? Yeah, Well, 165 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: mainly it was just getting my my knee right. A 166 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: lot of people under they don't really know the background 167 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: of my my knee history, but um, I had four 168 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: different surgeries on my knee, just trying to get it right. Um. 169 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: My knee at one point was just stuck like it 170 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: would have moved, Like I really couldn't like get any 171 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: range of motion in my knee. At what point was that? 172 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: This was like, Uh, I got my second surgery in February, 173 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: I got another one in June, and then I had 174 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: got another one like in thin September. Yeah, so it 175 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: was it was a rough process. Um. I had took 176 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: a visit to the Colts that year. Um, but well, 177 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: I'm sitting up there and and I had a great 178 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: respect for the Colts organizations from Chris Ballad and what 179 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: they're doing up there, and you know, we were kind 180 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: of just sitting there. We go through the tests and 181 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: we're both just like we were They really wanted me 182 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: to but my knee just like wasn't where it needed 183 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: to be, and we felt like I still needed more time. 184 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: And so now we're looking, I'm at a year already 185 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: outside of my injury, and it's still not where it 186 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: needed to be. UM. So I ended up sitting out 187 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: that that entire year. So the four are like did 188 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: that did you just keep kneeding surgeries? Because it wasn't healing, 189 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: like I gotta believe, Like initially they weren't like it's 190 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: going to be multiple surgeries. Yeah, no, it wasn't. So 191 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't anything liking it wise. Um it was all 192 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: scar tissue, so like I had like a scar tissue 193 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: like issue. So interesting. Um, I think it was because 194 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: like I kelloid, so like I scar a lot like 195 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: on the inside. So from my initial surgery was such 196 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: a big surgery. It required like so much of my 197 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: scar tissue to build up, which made my knee kind 198 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: of like stiff and stuck. And so it got to 199 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: the point where we're like, okay, we're this far out 200 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: and it's still this So they went back in, removed 201 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: some scar tissue. Um, still wasn't enough. Did it again, 202 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: and then we did it like three or four times, 203 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: and finally my last one, which was with Dr Electros 204 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: in l A. He he got me right and I 205 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: haven't looked back or turned back since. So I shout 206 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: out to Dr Electros and Los Angeles. Wow, And I 207 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: mean that's gonna be tough to just from a non 208 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: football standpoint, you have a young family like going through 209 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: that many knee surgeries. I mean, dang, Yeah, got a 210 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: saint for that one. Yeah, no, no, definitely, And we 211 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: had to deal with the whole COVID situation, and we 212 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: had just had twins, right, Um, so we're stuck in 213 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: the house and you know, I was just watching football, 214 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: was just hoping and wishing that I can get out 215 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: there again, and you know, just kind of relying on 216 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: faith and in that type of deal. But I really 217 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: have to give a testament to myself just for continuing 218 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: to do something, the continue to do the work, because 219 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: I could easily given up. There was times where I 220 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'm this, this isn't gonna work. 221 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: I think I'm I think I'm just gonna go into 222 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: coaching and go from there. But I kept being persistent 223 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: with it. Um waking up every day and then going 224 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 1: to workouts. It's like, jeez, am I still going to 225 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: continue to do this, especially when you don't know that 226 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: you don't know, Yeah, nobody's calling me nothing, So it's like, 227 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: am I really doing this for a reason? Or am 228 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: I wasting my time? So? UM, I just I honestly 229 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: just thank God for just giving me the mentality of 230 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: being a warrior, and um, just continue to battle. So 231 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: when was it that you spoke to the Colts And 232 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: then how long of a gap was it when just 233 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: nobody was calling? Yeah, so the Colts that wasn't. Um, 234 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: I want to say October of the season and I 235 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: went out there a visit, had a great visit, great 236 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: staff up there, um everybody. And it was on the 237 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: visit where we kind of were like, um, you know, 238 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: your knee is not really you know what I mean? 239 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: And I knew it, but you know, I was gonna try. 240 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: I was trying to force it. You know, I wanted 241 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: to get back. I wanted to get back. You know, 242 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: I was moving and I was. It wasn't like I 243 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: wasn't going to be myself. And I didn't want to 244 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: go out there and put some bad tape out there, 245 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: do some bad tape and you're really gonna be done. 246 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: I don't want a bitter taste like that for you know, 247 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: ending your career. So UM, I just I just let 248 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: that whole season just you know, to continue to rehab. UM. 249 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: And then that's when I got my final surgery. UM 250 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: that February. UM. Then I latched onto San Francisco, got 251 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: onto their practice squad for a little bit um, and 252 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: that being there was was was pretty tough too, because, um, 253 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: when you're coming back in your vet, you know you've 254 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: you've made a market in the league, you feel like, um, 255 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: and then you have to go back into a situation 256 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: where you're just like Okay, everyone's like okay Tony Jefferson, 257 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: but who actually are you now as a football player? 258 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: So you're walking around facility, it's not really you're not 259 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: getting that same respect, and um, you know, I'm out 260 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: there really on scout team running routes and I'm not. 261 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm not really the guy, you know what I mean. 262 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: So it's like I'm really trying to figure out where 263 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: I am as a football play and uh, I had 264 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: to kind of, um just bear through these like mental 265 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: like blocks that I were having in my mind. I 266 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: was like kind of questioning myself during these times, um 267 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: just where I was, and um, things just wasn't working out. Um, 268 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: they just kept me on practice squad and I guess 269 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: they didn't feel like that I was the player that 270 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: I was or the player that could help him out. 271 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: And so it was what two games. You got called 272 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: up for two games and I played two plays on 273 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: defense reallyday night. So you know, I was just like 274 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: I never really got the opportunity to go, so things 275 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: just weren't working out. I think we kind of just 276 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: mutually were like, you know, so and then the Eric 277 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: called me, came and worked out and I actually played 278 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: the first like the first week I got here because 279 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: had Cobra. Everybody was everyone was out all right, Green Bay, 280 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: let's go. So when you're in San Francisco and like 281 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: you're going through that, did you feel like at that time, 282 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: like I can still play or were you still like 283 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if I could still play? Like what 284 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: was your thought process of like where you were physically well? 285 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: When I was San Francisco, I thought I thought I 286 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: could play. Um, I thought I was able to go 287 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: out there and at like a high level. You felt 288 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: like you were you could be yourself. Yeah, I felt 289 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: like I was at myself. I felt like I could, 290 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: you know, help the team. But they didn't see that. 291 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: And then it came it got to a point, um 292 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: where I was about to retire just because that's where 293 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: I was mentally, and that's kind of where they had 294 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: maybe kind of made me feel like, um, you know, 295 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: I wasn't that type of football player. Anymore. So it 296 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: really got close to the point where I had called 297 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: my agents, like, I think it's time you did call 298 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: your agent. Oh yeah, it was almost in the works, 299 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: and he was like, yo, I don't necessary to believe 300 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: that you're done and shout out to Joel Siegel. But 301 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: he kind of talked me out of a little bit. 302 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: My wife was just like, I don't think you should 303 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: make a decision like just based off your emotions right now. 304 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: I think you should kind of think it through. And um, 305 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: you know I just thought it through. Um, just kept working, um, 306 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: and then got blessed and came back home. Well, it's 307 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: also it's it's a incredibly humbling right when you go 308 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: from like where you were to there on the practice 309 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: squad like roots, you know, like that's tough, and and 310 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: I have to imagine like at some point you're like 311 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: like dang, Like it's embarrassing to a point, you know 312 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like that is tough for like a 313 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: prideful person like yourself, and like every professional athlete has 314 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: a lot of pride, especially when you climbed that mountain 315 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: from undrafted climbed mountain, then you're back back. That's tough. Yeah, exactly. 316 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: I honestly felt like I used this term alot, honestly 317 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: felt like I was back on my undrafted Like I 318 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: felt like I was back on my undrafted stage again. 319 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: It was rookie camping, Cardinals camp all over b again, 320 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: all over again. Bro. So it's just a blessing. Man. 321 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: I just looked back at where I started from the beginning, 322 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: and then what I went through, and then where I'm 323 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: at now. Um, And obviously I'm still I kind of 324 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: feel like I'm in the undrafted face still a little 325 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: bit now, just because you know, I gotta I still 326 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: got a lot to prove. Um. But it's just it's 327 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: like you said, it's just a great story. I'm just 328 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: glad of that my my mentality state and mentality that 329 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: it's always been. Were you Um, I just want to 330 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: back up a little bit. You know, you said you're 331 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: close to retiring and you were also considering coaching and 332 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: all that stuff. Like how many different junctures of this 333 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: comeback were you thinking about I'm done? You know, Like 334 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: how close did you come? At what points? Uh? Well, 335 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: the closest was the San Francisco Like that there was 336 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: never I mean that it was literally like getting ready 337 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: to get my retirement letter and Instagram and all that 338 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: it was. It was literally getting to that point. And 339 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: like I said, I I had good people in my corner. 340 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: How a great supporting cast, um who know me and 341 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: know that. You know that wasn't me talking, you know, 342 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: so right, Um, I'm just happy for that. So then 343 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: how much time passes before the Ravens call um? So 344 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: when I got released from the practice squad with the 345 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: forty niners, they called me, I think day or two 346 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: like a good thing. I didn't retire delete the Instagram 347 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: post real qui oh man, he it would have been 348 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: like a few weeks or so, probably probably would have 349 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: been sent out. So you know the costa I hit 350 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: us up and you know, I came in. I didn't 351 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: workout um in front of everyone, and uh it was 352 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: pretty good. I mean, like I said, I felt like 353 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: I was in shape and like and I was a 354 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: football player that could contribute to a football team. Sam 355 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: Fran didn't believe that, right, So when you come here 356 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: for that workout, like what is your mindset? Like are 357 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: you thinking like like you know everybody here, you know 358 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 1: people on the business like you were here and you 359 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: have like such a big personality here that like you 360 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: have to know everybody, I'm sure to a certain extent, 361 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: like driving up here and like walking in the doors, 362 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: like it feels like you're coming home. But like at 363 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: that time, like you didn't know officially, like it wasn't 364 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: necessarily a done deal. So was it kind of like 365 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: this weird like you know, I hope that I'm going 366 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: to be here tomorrow. Like how did you kind of 367 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: feel coming into that workout? Yeah, it was. It was 368 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: definitely like a mind boggling type thing. It was like 369 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: I don't know really what I'm getting myself into. It's 370 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: gonna be good to see everybody that you know, I've 371 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: gotten to know over the past four years, and you know, 372 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: I just was like, let me just go out here 373 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: and do my workout and do it well. Um in 374 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: my workout, I was going so hard ur DP coast 375 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: because she was like, yoh, calm down, like you look 376 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: good bro there act like I was like just going 377 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: a hundred miles for hour, like trying to show him 378 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: like I'm ready for what I mean. So well, that 379 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: was maybe make or break it. And you didn't get 380 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: signed by the Ravens then yeah, like I said I 381 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: had to. I had to give it all or nothing. 382 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: I had to give it my one hundred um and 383 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: uh I did, would you chill out? It was like 384 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: relaxed that you're gonna follow in your face, like how 385 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: fast you're growing? Bro like easter, Like that's awesome. And 386 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: then and then the Bengals game happens and like, all right, 387 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: you know you're a starter, like making how many tackles 388 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,239 Speaker 1: do you have that game? Like t tackles something like that. 389 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: I don't know I had. I was just I just 390 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: blacked out. I was like, all right, here's your shot. 391 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: Show them right, you know what I mean? You're putting 392 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: the starter role, Like what are you gonna do with it? 393 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: And I think I made every player that came to me, um, 394 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: every opportunity that was presenting to me. I think I 395 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: made the best of it, especially in that game. So 396 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: I think it showed them. You know, I still the 397 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: old man, still got a little something in his tank 398 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: for sure. And you know, so then over the course 399 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: of the you know, final few games of the season, 400 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: like you play well, you know, and like what did 401 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: that validation? Did that feel? Like validation of all the 402 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: stuff that like you had kind of been battling over 403 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: the past two years like this is why I did. Yeah, 404 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: it was for sure validation for me, and it made 405 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: me even grind harder in the off season once I 406 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: got Once I got home for the off season, I 407 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I went to work, like I really like 408 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: being out. I got to um see the stuff that 409 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: I really needed to work on, um as far as 410 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: like not just like lifting and running. It was like 411 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: the little things like stretching and doing all the yoga 412 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: and all that other stuff. I really got to look 413 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: at my body and see like what works best for me. 414 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: And I really attacked that in the off season. And 415 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: I feel like this offseason, I've been having like a 416 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: pretty solid um off season. So yeah, you've had a 417 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: really good in minicamp and now rolling in the drink 418 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: it's some multiple picks. Yeah. Yeah, so you work on 419 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: those hands in the off season, then you know I did. 420 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: I caught a hundred balls per day dropping nothing. I say, 421 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: if I got opportunities, we're going the other way. I 422 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,239 Speaker 1: love it. I love it. Do you really feel like, 423 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: I mean, how old are you now, Tony, Do you 424 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: feel like this is kind of you know, you saw 425 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: Eric Weddle play into his thirties. Do you feel like 426 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: this is the start of Hey, we'll see how long 427 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: this last. But this is a new chapter, Like this 428 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: is the second career for me. For some reason, I 429 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: just I just feel way better, Like yeah, once I 430 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: turned thirties. I don't know if it's because I got 431 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: my new Veneers and my new team, I don't know, 432 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: but I'm just feeling like way fresher and like this 433 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: way like relax when I'm out there. It's like I'm 434 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: just like just I guess I'm just more appreciative of 435 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: it that I'm just being able to be out here 436 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: and play football, and like I'm just not gonna let 437 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: any like negative thoughts or anything negative kind of affect 438 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: how I approach or play the game because I know 439 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: where I could have been and I know where I 440 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: where I came from from it, So I'm just out 441 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: here just enjoying IM. I love just being with my 442 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: teammates and the guys, just being around you know what 443 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Because like I said, I love my FAMI, 444 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: But being stuck in the house during COVID for the 445 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 1: whole year, I was like, man, I just missed being 446 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: around the guys, and like, I'm really truly enjoying it 447 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: and I'm just enjoying the moment for sure. So just 448 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: from a football standpoint, Ryan made the point, like, you're 449 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: looking really good out there, Like, what is your expectation 450 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: for what you'll be able to bring to the team 451 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: this year? Well, first, I gotta make it. We we 452 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: were definitely like secondary wise, we're very crowded, especially in 453 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 1: the safety super loaded. I think by far we got 454 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: the best safety group in the in the NFL. We 455 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: got guys who will start anywhere, um, all the way 456 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: down the line. So, UM, I just got to continue 457 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: to didn't make it easy on you. Oh yeah, you know. 458 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: And Marcus Williams, these guys were great, great players, you 459 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's like, Um, at the 460 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: end of the day, I just gotta go out there. 461 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: I just want to go out there and beat me. 462 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: Um do what I do best. Um, like Harp says, 463 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: be great at what you're great at. Right, So, UM, 464 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: just shown the value of what I can bring to 465 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: the team. And whatever whatever happens, happens. But you know, 466 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: like I said, I'm just enjoying the moment. Man. I 467 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: obviously I feel like Um, this is this team can 468 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: can go really far. Especially with with Lamar number eight, 469 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: I feel like anything is possible. You got a quarterback 470 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: like that, and uh, you know, I'm just like I said, 471 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm just excited. Man, this is this is a great 472 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: time to be to be a Raven. Honestly. Yeah, do 473 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: you feel like, you know, especially with Levine you know, 474 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: moving into his role and retiring, that there's also like 475 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: a special teams leader kind of opening that you could 476 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: step into or Yeah, I think I think there's there's 477 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: an opening for for I mean, you lose a guy 478 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: like co Cap, That's that's some big shoes, I feel. 479 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: I don't. I know, people know he was a special 480 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: Teams leader, but he was really like an emotional leader 481 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: every like everything. He was everything for our special teams. Um, 482 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, and I think there's opening for it. And 483 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: I know there's guys in the room, not not just me, 484 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: but other guys like you know Stone who could also 485 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: be a big guy who can step in and leave 486 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: those guys, you know, and you don't have to be 487 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: a big vocal, like emotional leader, you know, you just 488 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: leave by example. So, um, there's there's openings all over 489 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: the place. Well, I gotta say, Tony, like one of 490 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: the things when I think about you and what you 491 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: bring to this team, Like I honestly think obviously your play, 492 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: but your energy and like the jelling of the defense 493 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: in the secondary. It's just a big part of who 494 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: you are, right Like, And I honestly felt like especially 495 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: last year when you know when Marcus Peters went down, 496 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: like some of that edge and swagger and some of 497 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: that was just lost. You know, like she definitely plays 498 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: with that edge that dog at him right, and like 499 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: you bring that and you were like kind of the 500 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: glue in a lot of ways. Like do you look 501 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: at that as your role to bring the energy and 502 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: all that stuff? Yeah, I mean when I when I 503 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: first came into the I just remember when I came 504 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: into the Bengals game. Um, like I I got a 505 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: sack on Burrow and I was just like turned up. 506 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't help you. Like I was saying all types 507 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: of stuff. I know Burrow probably hates me. I was 508 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: calling them all types of dames. So when you did 509 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: that podcast, he said the Ray was like talking. He 510 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: was for sure. I bumped bumped his shoulder and everything 511 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: he we I was going that out of it. But uh, 512 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: you know, I just people people are like, oh we 513 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: needed that, like we needed that jolt, Like we need 514 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: that energy, you know what I mean. So, um, I 515 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: just that's just how I play. I think that's just 516 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: how I am. Right, the game means it means something 517 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: to me. So um, each play, each like I said, 518 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: and even now each opportunity I get, it's it's even 519 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: it's like multiplied like when him out there. So um, 520 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: I do believe that what you're saying is true. Yeah, 521 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: and even off the field, I feel like too, just 522 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: the bonding that goes on in the secondary, like that's 523 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: so important and well brought a lot of that. And 524 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: I know you and Eric were so close and learned 525 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 1: from each other in that way. Yeah. I mean like 526 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: he he really well really kind of set the tone 527 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: as far as like off the field to just like 528 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: how important that is. Like you said, Um, you know 529 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: I still see what all the time. You know, he's 530 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: like he was like five minutes from me, comes against 531 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: my son and you know takes him with it something 532 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: they go work out all the time. So so uh, 533 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: he he really was like a big had a big 534 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: impact on like how how I viewed the game and 535 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: like how I viewed like being a teammate, um, just 536 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: by the amount of like respect you need to earn 537 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: and like the respect that needs to be given to 538 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: each teammate as well. So um, I always like remember 539 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: just how big of an impact Will had on me? 540 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: So him coming back and getting a ring last year, 541 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: I had to be like, well, what is going to 542 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: come back and get a ring better? Yeah, And since 543 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: he's gotten his ring, I haven't seen him, so I 544 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: got I got a higher at him about that we're 545 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: supposed to see each other about three times, and you 546 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: like big time, big time Chi's super Bowl champion is 547 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: hard again. I got a kind of a random question. 548 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: You mentioned just how you feel like this team can 549 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 1: be really good with Lamar and you just have good perspective, 550 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: come from a big picture stample and I think of 551 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: this team and this this organization. How would you describe 552 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: like the impact that Lamar has on this team in 553 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: this locker room. And I just feel like there's just 554 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: the way the sense that I get is that you 555 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: guys players feel like when we got number eight, like 556 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: we're never out of it, Like we're like, could you 557 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: kind of provide some perspective on on that piece of it, 558 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: because I I feel it, but I don't I want 559 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: to hear anything. I mean, I think anybody who watches 560 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: football knows if you got number eight us here, you 561 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: gotta you got a chance. And uh, just with him 562 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: being the building, like I feel like things just seem 563 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: more secure, you know, just having having it in the building, 564 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: I know, like in the O, T A S and Spingo, 565 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: the whole contracts and stuff like that's that's part of it, 566 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But like I remember just 567 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: being across and I'm like my my lockers like kind 568 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: of across from his, not just come in. I'm like, 569 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: is he here today? You know you kind of you 570 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: kind of you want it. You want him in the building, 571 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you just kind of That's 572 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: just kind of what it is, right. So I'm just happy. 573 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm happy he's back. Um, Like I said, I know 574 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: the contracts that that's just a part of the boy. 575 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: I want my man to get paid as much as possible, 576 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because he's earned an m 577 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: v P. And you know, so he's in the building 578 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: and and and things are going well, so everyone's happy. 579 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: Everyone's happy and are gonna be one for the Ages 580 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: for sure. You probably won't even say anything to you, 581 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 1: guys will see it on TV. First, I want to 582 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: get your perspective on Kyle Hamilton's and also on Marcus 583 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: Williams and just your your impressions of them. Oh there, 584 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: I'll start with Kyle. Yeah, since he's a rookie. But 585 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: now I really I've really been impressed with with Kyle Man. He's, uh, 586 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: his frame is like ridiculous, bro. And then like the 587 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 1: ability he has with that frame, it's like it's like, 588 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, I've never really seen it before or 589 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: like with somebody like that. You can tell he's like 590 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: a physical player. We have the paths on. He came 591 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: up and yesterday and I saw him like kind of 592 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: put the paths down because you kind of wonder how 593 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: physical can he be? You know, like, but he's got that, 594 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: and then he has the ability to cover, and it's 595 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: like this guy can be put anywhere really on the field, 596 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,719 Speaker 1: so that versatile piece. I could see why teams were 597 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: drilling over him, like during the draft. I didn't honestly, 598 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: I didn't think he was gonna be there at fourteen um, 599 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: and he was, and I mean the races, I understand, 600 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: you cannot pass up on somebody like that gets to 601 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: four teens, even though your safety. You like, I understand 602 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: how to say. I'm like, if he's there, you gotta 603 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: get that guy. I don't know how you dropped, but 604 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: you know he's off the field, he's he's funny. He's 605 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: really funny. He's got a sense of humor. Um. He 606 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: doesn't get too high get too low about things, which 607 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: is very very rare to see from a rookie, you know, 608 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: with with that much expectations on him being a first rounder. So, um, 609 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: I've really been in pressing him. I like him. I 610 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: know he's gonna help the defense out a lot. Yeah. 611 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: And then Marcus and Marcus, um cool, real cool, he 612 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: says next to me in the meetings. UM, I got 613 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: to pick his pick his brain a little bit. He's 614 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: very smart. He knows the game of football like to 615 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: the t. And I've always I always like to listen 616 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: to how other people view the game. And that's that's 617 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: one guy I really like to hear talk about football 618 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: just from the standpoint of not even like making plays, 619 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: just like what like what he thinks on like certain situations, 620 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: Like he's really like in depth with like football and 621 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: he's a real football guy. So it's been fun. Man, 622 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: he's we've we've got some good, good safeties in the 623 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: in the back end, right, happy to be around him. Yeah, 624 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: it's a good group. So now you said and obviously 625 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: as we're talking about this is the beginning of Tony 626 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: Jefferson two point right, not for sure, but you did 627 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: say earlier like GM is something that you thought about 628 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: on the horizon, like post foot ball playing days. Is 629 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: that still in the back of your m I NBA 630 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: or NFL or m only only the sun? But obviously 631 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: I know that you can't just you're not just gonna 632 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: be done playing football then go big and there's there's 633 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: a there's a road to that scouting um And I 634 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: know how how time consuming that could be, and I 635 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: know how hard of a a job that can be. 636 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: And you know, when you have a young family like 637 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: I do you kind of want to you know, I 638 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: want to. I want to see my kids play and 639 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: grow up to I don't want to just fully go 640 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 1: from football. It's straight and the scouting two. So I'm 641 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: gonna give it a little little break I want to 642 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: coach a little bit, you know. I want to be 643 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: able to look at, you know, at that high school 644 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: level just kind of we're not recruit but just kind 645 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: of view these players and like what's good high weight, 646 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: you know, that type of I just want to start 647 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: from scratch from that from that standpoint, but dreams and 648 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: goals are to one day be a general manager of 649 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: the NFL football team. That's cool. Yeah, that's awesome. I 650 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: have no doubt. After after a long second stint here, 651 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: yeah you hit. Thank you so much. This is my 652 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: first time. Okay, I was about to say definitely not 653 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: the first time. Alright, great stuff from Tony, and we 654 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: also want our listeners to know that the sports landscape 655 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: is always changing. This week is no different. Draft Kings 656 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: as a leader in daily fantasy sports and it still 657 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: has daily fantasy contests for those who are looking to 658 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: have some skin in the game. So this is simple. 659 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: Every player has a salary associated with drafting them. You 660 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: can assemble a lineup of players and then you try 661 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: to stay under the salary cap, and you can sit 662 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: back and you watch your points pile up. So now 663 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: you're not to play. Go ahead and download the draft 664 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: Kings app today using the code of flock. New users 665 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: will get a free entry with the first deposit. Again, 666 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: the code is flock, So go ahead and download the 667 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: Draft Kings app today. So what do you think about 668 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: the conversation with Tony? Oh, it was awesome. Yeah, I 669 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: mean that close to retiring pretty incredible. I mean, and 670 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: you think back when he signed that big deal with 671 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens as a understrictor free agent. I mean, he's 672 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: at that time got to be thinking, this is the 673 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: start of big, big things in my career, you know 674 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: what I mean. And um, it's just kind of wild 675 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: to think, you know, going from that to the practice 676 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: squad again is a lot of humble pie. That is 677 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: a large humble pie. And um, for him to kind 678 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: of keep fighting and persevering through that mentally and physically 679 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: with his knee, I mean, gosh, that knee injury said 680 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,239 Speaker 1: a brutal um is a testament to him man in 681 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: his fortitude and strength. I mean, I think that it 682 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: was kind of wild to to hear that, like even 683 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: in the moment you're thinking about all that stuff. Um, 684 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: and I know that like just from an outsider perspective, 685 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Like I thought his career 686 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: was probably done. Like he goes to the Colts, you know, 687 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: the report leaks about him going to the Colts, doesn't 688 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: get signed. Then he goes to the forty niners and 689 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: he's not the practice squad. Then he gets cut. You like, 690 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: that's probably you know, like it's not's not before he 691 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: even so he you know, before he went on the 692 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: practice squad, there's two months there where he was with 693 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: nobody again, you know, he was in training camp out 694 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 1: in Arizona, around in San Francisco, and then got cut 695 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: and there's two months before they even brought him back 696 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: in the practice squad, you know. So it's like, yeah, 697 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: it's like it's probably not gonna happen. And I was 698 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: just really like when he came back here and I'm like, oh, 699 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: this guy looks like Tony Jefferson of like it seems 700 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: like it's kind of the same player. And so, yeah, 701 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: like you said, credit to him, I really hope that 702 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: he is able to you know, I think that there's 703 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: a role for him. I know that I think he 704 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: makes the team. Yeah, I think that there's like it 705 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: is a very crowded safety group and you can go 706 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: through the numbers and all that, and but like, I 707 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: do think that he makes a team and I think 708 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: that there's a role for him. I mean, I think 709 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: they probably keep five safeties, right, so it's Marcus Williams 710 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: call Hamilton's Chuck Clark or your top three guys, and 711 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: then I think it's Tony and Gino Stone. I think 712 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: five safeties make the team. There's five, you know, and 713 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: Chuck Clark. I think he's probably gonna be on the team. Um, 714 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: but could could somebody call? You know, if if Chuck 715 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: Clark were to be traded, then that opens up even 716 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: more opportunity for Tony to have a defensive role in 717 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: this team. Kind of we talked about special teams and yeah, 718 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: but he would be a guy if they were to 719 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: be a trade or if there were to be an 720 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: injury that you can rely on as an experienced starter 721 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: who can step in and certainly play good ball. Yeah, totally. 722 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: So I think that he's on the team. I think 723 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 1: he has a role, and um, I hope, I hope 724 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: that's the case. I'll be rooting for him. Yeah, absolutely, 725 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: So before we go, we did want to talk about 726 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: our you know, we had a podcast earlier this week 727 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: talking about all of our impressions from the first four 728 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: days of practice. But then we had a big one 729 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 1: on Monday, the first padded practice of Ravens training camp. 730 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: So I did want to run through that a little bit, 731 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: Garrett and just give our impressions. I'll start off one 732 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: guy that we just got done talking about, Kyle Hamilton's 733 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 1: Tony had a good practice. Hey, I think he had 734 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: did you get it pick? I don't think he had 735 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: a picked, but he did. Uh. I was gonna ask 736 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 1: him about it, but he he did at one point 737 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: kind of come down and put a big little hit 738 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: on Mike Davis and I was like, Okay, Tony's like 739 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: he's fired about the first dandink. I saw Mike Davids 740 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: giving him a little bit of a little chat as 741 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: they were walking to the locker room, and I was like, oh, 742 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: that's two bedroom players on that one. Usually see the 743 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: hits from young guys, but I also saw old clip 744 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 1: from a stadium practice of like three years ago where 745 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: he absolutely drilled Miles Waking. I was like, yeah, he 746 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: basically got him. He saw him in half jeez. Anyway, Um, yeah, 747 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 1: Tony said Tony had a good practice. Um. And then 748 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: one guy though that stood out was Kyle Hamilton's you know, 749 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of Twitter controversy or pure 750 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 1: uproar after one just it was just a bad play 751 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: on apart Saturday's stadium practice where he just got toasted. 752 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: And uh, Kyle Hamilton's put on the pads on Monday 753 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 1: and and looked really good, like Tony was talking about, 754 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: just strapped up. Isaiah likely had a PVU against Mark 755 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: Andrews had a tackle for loss on another play. So uh, 756 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,919 Speaker 1: really good to see that from the rookie. Not unexpected. 757 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 1: He's shined really throughout O t as Minicamp every step 758 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: of the way. Um, but I think it was good, 759 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: especially to quiet kind of quiet all that. Yeah, there's 760 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: two things that stood out to me. One I was 761 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: watching It's always tough to see the offensive line, but 762 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: I was really focused on Tyler linderbaumb just to see 763 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: how does he hold up against Michael Pierce and Class 764 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: Campbell and tough assigments. I thought he did well, Like 765 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,439 Speaker 1: I don't think he was getting pushed back. I thought 766 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: that like he was holding There was one that I 767 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 1: you're you're you know, you're you're like the guys that 768 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: are criticizing Kyle Hamilton were getting burned at the stadium practice. 769 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, there's one time, one time Tyler the 770 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: ther mom maybe gets pushed back. You're like, I can't 771 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: block at all. I mean there's one where he was 772 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: trying to reset and Michael Pierce got him a little airborne, 773 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: and uh, you know that's gonna be the challenge for 774 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: tent Like we don't have to run from that, right, Like, 775 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 1: that's gonna be the challenge going hands up against what's 776 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: what's Piers tipping the scales at. I mean a big, 777 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: big dude, and not just big but strong. Michael Pierce 778 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: is very strong. That's why you get signs of the contracts. 779 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: He's gotten signed but too right. And you know, I 780 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: think Tyler was trying to re kind of like you 781 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 1: take the reset right, and when he tried to do 782 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: that hot reset, Beer's got him at the right time 783 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: and got him a little airborn. And that's gonna happen. Like, hey, 784 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: here's what I'll say about that, Like, that's gonna be 785 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 1: his challenge in his career. He's a smaller guy. He 786 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 1: ain't gonna hit a grosber that's what it is, right, 787 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: So the Ravens are gonna, I think, try not to 788 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 1: put him in too many heads up, one on one 789 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: situations against really big dudes. That doesn't happen a ton 790 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: based on your anyway, right. But what Tyler Linder Mom 791 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: gives you on the flip side, the movement, the versatility 792 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: that he gives you to open up different aspects of 793 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: the running game, that's the trade off, right, Like we 794 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: all understand there's a trade offer, you know, And that's fine, 795 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,439 Speaker 1: But I agreed to your point. He more than held 796 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: his own the vast majority of the time. And I 797 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: and I'll give him a shout out too because of 798 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: the play that I was describing where he got a 799 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: little airborne right before then Patrick Queen came up the 800 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: middle on a blitz and he picked it up perfectly 801 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: stone Patrick Queen at the line of scrimmage and then 802 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: not only stoned him but got after him, like pushing 803 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: him back and kept getting after him like as the 804 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: ball was thrown down field. Like I like to see 805 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: that from you from the room. You like to see 806 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: a little nasty. He Also, I do like his ability 807 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: to get to the second level, which is what that's 808 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: the trade off exactly, which I thought. I saw that 809 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: on a few plays yesterday. Um the good stuff, I 810 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: thought it was good. Um. The other thing I like 811 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 1: about practice, and we've seen this now on multiple occasions, 812 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: especially in these one on one rolls and then also 813 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,879 Speaker 1: during some full team eleven on eleven straw stuff. I 814 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: love the matchup between Rashad Bateman and Marlin Humphrey. And 815 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: whenever Bateman steps to the line in a one on 816 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: one drill, Marlon goes out there to match up against him. 817 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: There was there was a time during the stadium practice 818 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: where someone else, Robert Jackson, was lined up across from Bateman, 819 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 1: and Marlon ran out there and said, I'm this is 820 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,720 Speaker 1: this is my rap. And then during the first padded 821 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 1: practice they were going up against each other and Bateman 822 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,240 Speaker 1: got a step or two behind Marlon, but then Marlon 823 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 1: closed ground and broke up and passed down the field 824 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: underthrowing a little bit. If if the throw would have 825 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 1: been a little bit further in front of him, Bateman 826 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: would have had the touchdown. He did, but he would have, 827 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,399 Speaker 1: but it was right exactly. That's part of the job 828 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: that every throw is not gonna be perfect. So as 829 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: a corner, you gotta recover and break it up when 830 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 1: it's not I just like the and then and then 831 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: on the next one it seemed like Bateman might have 832 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: had a step and then it was too far. Um. 833 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: So those that matchup is just a fun one to watch. 834 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: And these one on one drills, and I think that 835 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 1: like the two players who are like I'm the number 836 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: one corner, I'm the number one receiver, Like let's go, 837 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 1: and I like that competition. It's fun to see. Yeah, 838 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,439 Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from the defensive line uh today Tuesday. Uh, 839 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: So that'll be exciting because I'm really encouraged by what 840 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: I see there, not only from Michael Pierce we just 841 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: finished talking about, but the rookie Travis James. I think, 842 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: uh looks looks good. Big dude, he's gonna be part 843 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: of that rotation. Broderick Washington is somebody that nobody talks 844 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 1: about either. I think he's flashed a little bit. Uh. 845 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 1: And we know what we're gonna get from Clay's Campbell. 846 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: So this defensive front and Ian Brent Urban had to 847 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: play where he got into the backfield, I can't remember 848 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 1: if it was a sack or basically a tackle for loss. Yeah, 849 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,399 Speaker 1: it's always sometimes tough to tell because the guy gets 850 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: back there and like they don't get anywhere close to 851 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: the quarterback. So it's always like, you know, the defensive lineman, 852 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: like they get into the backfield, like that sack that 853 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: was four ft from him a sack. Yeah, so but 854 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: I think that, um, it'll be interesting to hear from 855 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: from Win and Peters. We get to hear from both 856 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,240 Speaker 1: those guys. Yeah, yeah, so good stuff. Thanks for listening. 857 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: As always, you can reach us at the lounge at 858 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: Ravens dot NFL dot net and we're gonna be giving 859 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: you two pods a week from now on through the 860 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: rest of training camp, just so we're you know, not 861 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: only having these great conversations like we had a tony today, 862 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: but also just keeping you a prize of what we're 863 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: seeing on the field, so a lot more to come, 864 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: and make sure you keep it locked in.