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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly here with

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Uh no Rob King today, No

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Speaker 2: Rob King.

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Speaker 3: He's done. Steelers done.

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Speaker 2: Steelers are done.

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Speaker 3: We're almost done.

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Speaker 2: The final practice has been held. Russell Wilson for the

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Speaker 2: first time in this training camp. Uh taking the first

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Speaker 2: four reps at seven shots and threw a couple of

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Speaker 2: nice touchdown passes over the middle.

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Speaker 3: Matt, oh, yeah, he looked sharp today.

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Speaker 2: But George Pickens one to a Pat Friarmouth, missed on

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Speaker 2: a fade. Uh to Van Jefferson. Keep wanting to call

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Speaker 2: him Justin Jefferson a little different if they.

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Speaker 3: Had, Yeah, that'd be nice.

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Speaker 2: But then came but you know, back with a pylon

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Speaker 2: back pilon throw the Calvin Austin. Yeah, that was pretty,

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Speaker 2: very nice and also connected. Later in practice, deep shot

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Speaker 2: down the middle to Calvin Austin out of the slot,

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Speaker 2: right over the middle of the defense.

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Speaker 3: Split the city post. Yeah. Yeah, I mean he looks

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Speaker 3: made a really good practice. Yeah, yeah, it looks good,

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Speaker 3: no doubt. I mean, he got the field today more

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Speaker 3: than maybe any practice I've seen that he's the number

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Speaker 3: one and this is you know, just it'd be like

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Speaker 3: if Ben were here or you know, someone it's an

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Speaker 3: established starter. The way he handled it all, he's been

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Speaker 3: a professional start to finish. Unfortunately, we were robbed of

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Speaker 3: a little bit of reps from him early in camp,

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Speaker 3: but I think that could have benefited. Field's a great

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Speaker 3: deal and it doesn't look like Wilson's missed beat at all.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's very sharp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I expect him to.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Mike tom will speak to the media tomorrow about the

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Speaker 2: plans for the game against the Bills, though of course

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Speaker 2: a joint practice tomorrow with the Bills that is cli

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Speaker 2: to the public.

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Speaker 3: Tune into us for that too.

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Speaker 2: We will be on the air from one to three

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Speaker 2: giving you the rundown of what's going on in that

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Speaker 2: practice time. So you want to you want to hear

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Speaker 2: that for sure, no doubt. But yeah, you know, he

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Speaker 2: looks good.

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Speaker 3: He looks real good. He looks real good. He particularly

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Speaker 3: in the red zone. That's actually when we've seen him

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Speaker 3: a lot is the seven shot stuff in and out,

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Speaker 3: I mean all the stuff I talk about just you know,

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Speaker 3: professional quarterbacking, you know, always having everyone on the same page,

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Speaker 3: being alert and knowing where to go with football before

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Speaker 3: the snap a lot of the times, you know, and

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Speaker 3: running through the plays as designed, looking off the safety

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Speaker 3: and then boom checking it to the other side. I

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Speaker 3: mean those type of things with accuracy, spirals, good touch

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Speaker 3: downfield ball looks good. I haven't seen him run around much,

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Speaker 3: but I think that's on purpose, you know, why bother that? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I'm sure he still can, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 3: think the uh, the quarterback situation is really intriguing to me,

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Speaker 3: preseason ended last year, I'm like, Kenny Bickett's gonna be

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Speaker 3: really good. Yeah, I mean, they got this all figured out. Well.

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Speaker 2: There's a difference here though. A lot is that Wilson

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Speaker 2: he talked to people in Denver and oh Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: he stinks he's this, you know. I think part of

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Speaker 2: it was he didn't mesh well with Sean Payton's scheme.

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Speaker 2: But even at that, through twenty six touchdown passes last year,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and that's only year two. Year one was

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Speaker 3: handled my first year in Denver better as well. But

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton is the big ticket item, and everyone on

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Speaker 3: the planet knew when Peyton was hired that him and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm warming up to the idea that you know,

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Speaker 2: He's shown me enough that I would have no issue,

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Speaker 2: you know, giving him a two or three year deal,

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Speaker 2: we can you're not punting on finding it.

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Speaker 3: Your quarterback of the future.

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Speaker 4: No, never, you could, but it gives you that some

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Speaker 4: leeway with which to work to do it. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 4: nobody's told me this, but you just get this feeling

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Speaker 4: be around for a while and he seems to be

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Speaker 4: fitting in with everyone, and we know the regular season

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Speaker 4: can change all that in a brutal and nasty manner.

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Speaker 4: This league is not kind and he.

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Speaker 3: Could get hurt. He could have a terrible year. He

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Speaker 3: can fall off a cliff, or he might win eleven

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Speaker 3: you know. I mean, I don't think they need him

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Speaker 3: to do a ton a big thing with the quarterback position.

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Speaker 3: Over the last couple of years, it's kept them in

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Speaker 3: the playoff. Hunt is not making a lot of mistakes,

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Speaker 3: you know, but if you could keep more or less

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Speaker 3: that level of non negatives mixed with a lot more

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Speaker 3: I mean, you might have something, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, yeah, and you know when you when you when

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Speaker 2: you think about it too, Matt, this is a guy

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Speaker 2: that's made a lot of money in the league.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you're looking to re sign him once

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Speaker 2: this is finished, is it going to take a goodjillion dollars.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any chance he gets like the

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Speaker 3: The younger guys are getting fifty. I don't even think

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Speaker 3: he gets the the Golfer Cousins deal because Cousins was

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Speaker 3: on the open market. There were teams competing for him.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know what those numbers look like. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't think it'd be crazy. And he's already shown

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Speaker 3: a camp here that he works well with young quarterbacks too,

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Speaker 3: or you know, Field looks up to him. He makes

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Speaker 3: From me being around the guys and learning from him.

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Speaker 3: And and where I'm going with that is, well, you

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Speaker 3: draft on you know, I may his successor could be

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Speaker 2: The way some of the urgency to do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the right guys there at the right point.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to reach for it. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: so we're getting ahead of ourselves. Of course, let's play

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Speaker 3: some games. I mean, we've seen him.

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Speaker 2: But it's been the biggest question of the off season.

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Speaker 3: No doubt. They don't have a quarterback next year. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they don't have a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson in his career to this point has made

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Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty six million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Not bad for a third round pick.

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Speaker 2: And when you yeah, and you consider his first.

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Speaker 3: Rookie year was where his rookie deal was cheap.

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Speaker 2: His first three seasons in the league he made one million,

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Speaker 3: Wow, third round pick. But twelve years ago or whatever.

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Speaker 3: I hear his wife makes a couple of bucks as well.

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Speaker 3: I think they're doing just fine. I mean, his contract

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Speaker 3: the time. And they're still paying him as we speak,

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Speaker 3: which is wonderful for the folks around here. And I

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Speaker 3: mean that's stealing. Think of the bargain they're getting, even

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Speaker 3: if it's just this year. Oh yeah, if he could. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: if he's in the league average quarterback and you're getting

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Speaker 3: them for league minimum, I mean, that's remarkable.

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Speaker 2: He's going to make this year thirty nine million dollars

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Speaker 2: from the Broncos.

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Speaker 3: From the Broncos will not play for them, to not

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Speaker 3: play for him, right, they might be better off keeping them. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So by the by the end of this he will

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Speaker 2: have made three hundred and six million dollars in his career.

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Speaker 3: Wow. And no matter what, assuming he wants to play

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Speaker 3: power is far from done, you know. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I just think that that, you know, from what I've seen,

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Speaker 2: the way he handles himself, the way he handles himself

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Speaker 2: as his teammates, the media, the fans.

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Speaker 3: Even behind the scenes, walking around the cafeteria and you

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm I'm sold.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't wait to see him play presumably what Saturday.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think will actually see him play against

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Speaker 3: an opponent. That'll be really interesting to me. I don't

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Speaker 3: how to figure that out other than a lot of

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Speaker 3: special teams. But we will be telling you about it live.

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Speaker 3: We don't have to hide that. By the way. We

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Speaker 3: be able to comment on practice tomorrow. So that's something

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Speaker 3: definitely to tune into. But no, I mean there's something

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Speaker 3: been of the true veteran starting quarterback that has battle

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Speaker 3: speed and all those things. And he absolutely has.

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Speaker 2: That and what comes with being the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, face the franchise and yeah right,

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Speaker 3: all that stuff, all that stuff. Yeah yeah, it's a

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Speaker 3: learned experience, you know, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's something I would could be

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Speaker 2: wouldn't just assume that he's won and done. I wouldn't either, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know. You know, anytime I tweet something out or

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Speaker 2: put something out on social media about Wilson, it's well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but you know he's he was terrible. No, he wasn't

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Speaker 3: He wasn't what they wanted. I mean, it wasn't worth

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Speaker 3: the money or money and picks that they invested for

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Speaker 3: how it worked out. That's their problem, Yeah, zebra, Right,

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Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean that he can't be very successful here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's no doubt about that in my mind.

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Speaker 2: From what I remember, they had a five game winning

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, remember to beat the Chiefs, Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were one in five at one point, miserable,

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Speaker 2: I mean you think about that stretch Kansas City, Green Bay, Buffalo, Minnesota, Cleveland. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Just you're just gonna ask him to make four or

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Speaker 3: And also telling guys, you know, hey, you're rounding your

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Speaker 3: quite well. And if he can make like you said,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just you know, I think back to that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, where he was bad. He was bad. I

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Speaker 3: mean he couldn't throw. I mean he doesn't throw the

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Speaker 2: He would make those two or three or four throws

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Speaker 3: But they never came to the line and we're in

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Speaker 3: we're not. That happened a lot the last couple of years.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure Wilson won't allow that to happen much. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they were always as efficient as they could be, you

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Speaker 3: You think. I mean, with the special team standouts they have,

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Speaker 3: the football well. I mean, if they're top ten running

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Speaker 3: highly competitive. I mean, that's a double digit win type

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Speaker 3: By a lot.

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Speaker 2: You know, when you still look at those win totals

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Speaker 3: I don't know who's gonna win the North, but there

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Speaker 3: I definitely think the Steelers are gonna coming to last.

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Speaker 3: Like you hear that kind of stuff, It's like, I

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Speaker 3: I'm excited for the quarterback situation. I think Fields has

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Speaker 2: I think that's why the joint practice tomorrow is going

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Speaker 2: you know, manage some some stuff there that nobody's saying

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Speaker 3: Going to be a good team of course, of course,

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Speaker 2: To see what what what, you know, what this looks

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Speaker 3: That said, it happened to be the team you've eliminated

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to expect tomorrow. Like I think

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Speaker 2: In this situation, though they're going to be at the stadium.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's not three fields.

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Speaker 2: There's not three fields to work on, so they got one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and in that situation, I kind of stood in

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Speaker 3: And you got to think about it. There's gonna be

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Speaker 2: Right, A lot.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's gonna kind of narrow the scope

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Speaker 3: But I'm curious, you know, I think we'll learn about

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Speaker 2: A little Birdie told me, yes, on to two minutes.

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Speaker 3: That's usually a big thing for joints because just think

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that part of it and just

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Speaker 2: in terms of roster built you know, yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: A lot of what we speculated is true, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: You know, right, you're gonna see more nickel and all that, all.

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Speaker 3: That good stuff. Yeah, come to fruition. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now you're gonna get to see it for an extended

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can dictate what each other is going

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Speaker 3: to do. Hey, we need a period of blitz here,

438
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Speaker 3: We need to period of dime, you need you know, Okay, sure,

439
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Speaker 3: So no, I think there'll be not a lot of

440
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Speaker 3: wasted time. I bet on the field tomorrow. I'm sure

441
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,399
Speaker 3: they'll do some of their individuals and everybody'll stretched, you know,

442
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. But I think they're gonna

443
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Speaker 3: be goosing a lot of the clock. Yeah. Yeah, so

444
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Speaker 3: that'll be fun. Yeah, I'm pretty I'm excited about it.

445
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Speaker 3: Not like I'm sick of being here. But it doesn't

446
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Speaker 3: break my heart to go home and just see something different.

447
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Speaker 3: Tomorrow will be fun too, you know. With the Bills.

448
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,400
Speaker 3: I mean, the Bills are a fun team too.

449
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Speaker 2: I am ready to go home.

450
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Speaker 3: I'm ready to go home. Yeah.

451
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Speaker 2: I had the last, my last radiation treatment yesterday.

452
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Speaker 3: I congratuls.

453
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Speaker 2: I am finished with that. So hopefully here over the

454
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Speaker 2: next couple of weeks, my my speech ind diction will

455
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Speaker 2: come back a little bit more.

456
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but dressing well, folks.

457
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Speaker 2: Just another reason to to be ready to get into

458
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Speaker 2: this thing a little bit more here.

459
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're like in the season now, you know. I mean,

460
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Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah, this is legit time. I will miss

461
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Speaker 3: the food here, I won't miss the beds. We'll miss

462
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Speaker 3: this rolling out of bed and going right to practice.

463
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Speaker 3: That kind of Stuff's cool, But it'd be good to

464
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Speaker 3: be home too.

465
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Speaker 2: It definitely will be and will feel more like the

466
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Speaker 2: regular season is upon us once you get back. Once

467
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Speaker 2: once camp is over, it's like, Okay, let's get to

468
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Speaker 2: the let's get to the start of the regular shows.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And from what I understand, folks, the Drive will

470
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Speaker 3: be five days a week starting Monday, normal time. All

471
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Speaker 3: that good stuff too. So from then until after the

472
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Speaker 3: draft probably you'll be getting us every day. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lallie. You're

474
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Speaker 2: listening to the Drive here on Steeler's Audio Network and

475
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Pittsburgh. We are live from Steelers training camp

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Speaker 2: at Saint Vincent College. The last practice of Saint Vincent

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Speaker 2: College practices here at training Camp twenty twenty four. It

478
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Speaker 2: is in the books. When Matt and I come back,

479
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Speaker 2: we'll talk a little bit more about what we learned

480
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Speaker 2: out here, who we liked, what we saw, all that

481
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Speaker 2: good stuff. We'll do that when we return. Right after

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Speaker 2: these messages.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

485
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Speaker 1: GOLDNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And we are back.

487
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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly here with the Matt Williamson and

488
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Speaker 2: we were live from Steelers training camp here at Saint

489
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Speaker 2: Vincent College, the final practice at Saint Vincent College here,

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Speaker 2: training camp twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: And you know what you mentioned before, they waste no

492
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Speaker 3: time getting like the signage down.

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Speaker 2: Well they're taking it apart.

494
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. These guys are busy working on fields

495
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Speaker 3: and everything around here and getting ready for students. I

496
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Speaker 3: assume they'll be here like next week.

497
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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, like that, right, It doesn't take much time.

498
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Speaker 2: Three in practice injuries today too, Well, we're going to

499
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Speaker 2: talk about it. First was grayln Arnold. Oh no, I've

500
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Speaker 2: been running a first team slot. Yes, this week he

501
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Speaker 2: had a calf issue, walked off the field but left

502
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Speaker 2: in the cart. Okay, so we'll see how bad that is.

503
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Speaker 2: Let's stop there real quick, because it did look like

504
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Speaker 2: he's making a strong push to be the number one

505
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Speaker 2: nickel and he's been getting more and more special team

506
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Speaker 2: stuff too, So I think that they're searching a little

507
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Speaker 2: bit there and we're hoping he's the answer. Hopefully this

508
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Speaker 2: doesn't stunt that too much, you know. Yeah, Yeah, for him,

509
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Speaker 2: you'd hope that he doesn't miss.

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Speaker 3: I woul think at a minimum, we don't see him

511
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Speaker 3: at the next two events.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which stinks for him, absolutely stinks for the Steelers

513
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Speaker 2: because you wanted the chance to evaluate him, especially with.

514
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Speaker 3: The ones, and if you bump him up with the ones,

515
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Speaker 3: how's he going to do?

516
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Ward had a hamstring did not return, so Mike

517
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Speaker 2: Tomlin saying after practice today that they're evaluating both of

518
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Speaker 2: those issues to see what's going on with that. And

519
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Speaker 2: then the final one was Nate Herbig left practice early today.

520
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Speaker 2: That put Zach Fraser in with the first unit late

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Speaker 2: in practice and we'll see.

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Speaker 3: Where that go. Yeah, all right, So Ward, I think

523
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Speaker 3: he started to distinguish himself as the what I've been

524
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Speaker 3: calling the best of the rest running backs, you know,

525
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Speaker 3: not the top three. He also is getting valuable Special

526
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Speaker 3: Teams reps, which means that they're looking at him hard,

527
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Speaker 3: so hopefully for his sake. I mean, that doesn't screw

528
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Speaker 3: up his chances. And her BIG's a big one. I mean,

529
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Speaker 3: I know everyone wants to blame him for those two snaps.

530
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Speaker 3: Get him out of there. Wis and Fraser in there

531
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Speaker 3: snaps weren't bad, you know, they were on the quarterback

532
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Speaker 3: quarterback yep, So place blame where it needs to be placed.

533
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Speaker 3: I think Herbig's had a really good camp. Frankly, I

534
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Speaker 3: would prefer him at guard in a perfect world, but

535
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Speaker 3: he's fine at center. And I know we're all excited

536
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Speaker 3: for Fraser as am I and maybe he gets Wally pipped.

537
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Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, but I think that Fraser's

538
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Speaker 3: been banging on that door either way.

539
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Speaker 2: Yeah, a good chance, but I think, you know, I

540
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Speaker 2: think the way things were trending, I was gonna be

541
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Speaker 2: surprised if Fraser isn't the starter by by opening h Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so the thing with that position is

543
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Speaker 3: you need to be extremely reliable mentally, you know, in

544
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Speaker 3: terms of getting all the line calls and all those things. However,

545
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Speaker 3: the guy you're snapping to could set the protections? Yeah,

546
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Speaker 3: could you do all those things? And the guy to

547
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Speaker 3: your left at people realize how smart Isaac is and

548
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 3: how well he's regarded as a football intelligence lineman is

549
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Speaker 3: going to be really useful too. Maybe he sets all

550
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Speaker 3: the protections, you know, yeah right, Yeah, that's not uncommon

551
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Speaker 3: for Reguard to do.

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Speaker 2: So we we gotten to see what this offense has

553
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Speaker 2: looked like here the last three weeks. Uh here at

554
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Speaker 2: Saint Vincent College. I like what I've seen the play design,

555
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Speaker 2: the schematics very much. They're scheming guys open.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I think people were going to like

558
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Speaker 2: this Arthur Smith offense.

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Speaker 3: Too, I really do. I think it's a lot different.

560
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Speaker 3: They throw a lot at you mentally and physically. It's

561
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Speaker 3: a very physical group. You know. Darnett Washington, I bet

562
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Speaker 3: is right up his alley. He's got to be three

563
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Speaker 3: hundred pounds by the way. I mean, I saw him

564
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Speaker 3: the other day out of pads. It was like he

565
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 3: looks tremendous. I mean I'm not meaning he's like big

566
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Speaker 3: and slow. He's moving better than ever. So they do

567
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Speaker 3: throw a lot at you with big physical lineups just

568
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Speaker 3: all the I think the pre synapp stuff is so

569
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Speaker 3: much better. The route concepts are so much better, and

570
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Speaker 3: the run games really diverse. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's going to play well. Yeah, once

572
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Speaker 2: they get into the record.

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Speaker 3: And you know the thing.

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Speaker 2: About it is, I look at this. You know, people

575
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Speaker 2: talk about whether Steelers need to make some they need

576
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Speaker 2: to make some hay early in the season and and

577
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Speaker 2: you know, get a lot of wins here.

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Speaker 3: That'd be great, be great, right, I don't.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think when you're trying, when you're designing

580
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Speaker 2: a new offense and it's based on the running game

581
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Speaker 2: more so than what you're going to do passing wise

582
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Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff, I think it's easier

583
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Speaker 2: to incorporate that quickly.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I just think that I'm

585
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: a big, big believer in continuity and experience in the

586
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 3: offensive line. Now, I'd rather have talent than that. And

587
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: they have talent. I mean, they have really good talent.

588
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 3: I think they have a good line coach. But I

589
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 3: also expect there to be growing pains with run concepts.

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Speaker 3: You know, you and I double team this knows which

591
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 3: one how what you kind of have the feel for

592
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Speaker 3: getting off the other. That being said, it looks pretty

593
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Speaker 3: good so far, you know what I mean. And I

594
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Speaker 3: do think the line will have growing pains just because

595
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Speaker 3: it's young and there's a lot of shuffling parts, and

596
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Speaker 3: hopefully the first round pick gets back out there sooner

597
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 3: than later. Two. But if they start running the ball,

598
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Speaker 3: if that line looks really good in like week one,

599
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Speaker 3: imagine atly ten, you know, assuming some health. So when

600
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: I look the line, I think they might be set

601
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: there for a decade, let alone week one stuff, you know,

602
00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 3: big picture stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure, good group I look at you know,

604
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Speaker 2: I'm just talking about things that we've we've kind of

605
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 2: learned here at training camp. I think Spencer Anderson is

606
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Speaker 2: a guy who is an extremely high era pointed up

607
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: kind of guy right now in terms of his career,

608
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Speaker 2: in his trajectory. I've seen some stuff out there where

609
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Speaker 2: people projecting their fifty three man rosters and don't have

610
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Speaker 2: him on it.

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Speaker 3: They got to be at their minds. I don't get

612
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Speaker 3: that one bit. I mean, I think he might be

613
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Speaker 3: the starting right guard next year. I think he's a

614
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Speaker 3: really valuable interior player as a whole because of the

615
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Speaker 3: Fraser pick and herbig being ahead of him. I haven't

616
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Speaker 3: seen him take one snap at center, but I think

617
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Speaker 3: that's what they drafted him as originally. He knew he

618
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Speaker 3: was versatile, but has a lot of center background. I

619
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Speaker 3: was shocked. And again we even' seen him at tackle either.

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Speaker 3: They got well, we did.

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Speaker 2: See him at tackle really when when they had some

622
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Speaker 2: issues recently?

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Speaker 3: Yeah okay, yeah, okay, because he did quite a bit

624
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Speaker 3: of that last year when they drafted him, I never

625
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 3: thought he would even see a snap in the NFL

626
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Speaker 3: at tackle. So he's gonna be active on game day.

627
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Speaker 3: He's probably the number one backup to several positions too

628
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Speaker 3: on game day, and he might be a future starter.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're not getting ready that No, that's crazy.

630
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Speaker 2: You know, we'll see when we get to see Roman

631
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: Wilson and troya Flatan who back on the practice field here.

632
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 3: I forget about Wilson unfortunately because we've been a while since,

633
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: you know, so much talk about the receiver position. But

634
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: he could be a useful player. I can't wait for

635
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: him get back.

636
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: So coming into this camp, there were a lot of

637
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: questions regarding the receivers and those kind of things. Do

638
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: you feel better or worse about the receiver situation than

639
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: you did at the beginning of camp.

640
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Speaker 3: Better because I was terrified of it at the beginning

641
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: camp too. I mean, I'm still not satisfied happy with it,

642
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 3: you know, to compete with the Bengals and Chiefs and Bills,

643
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. But I think Jefferson has established

644
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: a himself is a quality guy that can see snaps

645
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 3: for basically any team. Pickens looks better than ever. I

646
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 3: mean just in the way he's being used. And we saw,

647
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 3: you know, some of you haven't been at the camp

648
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 3: at least saw a little glimpse of it in that

649
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: game where getting him layups and you know, ten yard

650
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: chunk play. Here is there like.

651
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: Finding ways to get the ball in his hands.

652
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Speaker 3: I think Calvin Austin is turning into who we thought

653
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Speaker 3: he could be, you know. I mean, he hasn't had

654
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 3: chance to show off a whole lot. I don't know

655
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: that any of the others are lighting the world on fire,

656
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 3: you know. And Wilson unfortunately just got hurt early.

657
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Scottie Miller's had some He's had some moments.

658
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I feel that's the top group

659
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: as we speak.

660
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel better about it than I did a

661
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: month ago.

662
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 3: I feel better how they'll make up for it, yeah,

663
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: you know, like how they'll spread the ball around, you know.

664
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't break my heart that another receiver. No,

665
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: I still think you look to do that.

666
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: You always look to upgrade, and certainly that's that's the

667
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: part where they could do it. But I I don't

668
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: know that it's the it's something they.

669
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: Have to do right now, No agreed. Corner and receiver

670
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 3: are my areas of concern right now. You know, I

671
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 3: think they're the weakest spots on the team despite having

672
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: a young developing star at both positions. You know, that

673
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: are who I love. I mean that those two guys.

674
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 3: But if there's a corner becomes available, if there's a

675
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: receiver that becomes available, IK or not, who the heck

676
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: knows what's going on with that. I mean, I would

677
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 3: be interested. But I think overall this roster is certainly

678
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: in better shape than it was the last practice a

679
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 3: year ago. Yeah.

680
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely feel across the board, yeah, much better

681
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: about it. I think Naujie Harris and Jalen Warren have

682
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: both had outstanding camps.

683
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 3: I think Harris has a chip on his shoulder. Yeah,

684
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: you know, he looks a little leaner in a good way,

685
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: because he looks really spry, really embracing the physicality and

686
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 3: running every run to that's extreme and blitz pick up

687
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: is better than ever. He's in a contract year, and

688
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 3: I love I love Warren to no end, but Nause

689
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 3: looks like he's set up for a really big year to.

690
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: Me, Yeah, I think, you know he gets three hundred

691
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: touches this year. You're looking at a figuess. Three hundred

692
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: touches are gonna win a lot of games. Yeah, yeah,

693
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: you know he's gonna get you fourteen hundred and fifteen

694
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: hundred yards.

695
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: I think I like how he looks out here, and

696
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: that's not a n ookoln Warren at all. And even

697
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 3: just seeing Patterson today was interesting, Like he's an interesting athlete.

698
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: I mean he kind of moved like gallops. I mean

699
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: he's got high knees and he's kind of built different

700
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: than running backs are. But a big dude. He's a big,

701
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 3: powerful man. I mean he might be two twenty five,

702
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: two thirty. I mean he's a handful, and he's fast,

703
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: and he's elusive and he can do a lot with

704
00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 3: the ball. In his hands.

705
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, ball carriers, they definitely have that and gave the

706
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: quarterbacks right, yeah, right. We saw some of that in

707
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: the one on one tackling drills, even some of those

708
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 2: guys doing some of those things. So I kind of

709
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: like where the offense is at right.

710
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: Now, and I do too.

711
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: I haven't gone back and edited it up yet, Matt,

712
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: but I'm pretty sure the offense in seven Shots won

713
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: a lot more of them than they lost.

714
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 3: Do you think they won camp?

715
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: I think early in camp the defense was winning those,

716
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 2: and over the last two weeks, I think the offenses

717
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: dominated those.

718
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 3: I guess a good defense, that's a good defense. I

719
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 3: think Wilson has certainly helped that. Yeah. I mean, I'm

720
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 3: not here to you know, throw shade a Kenny Pickett

721
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: or whatever, but there were many throws in seven Shots

722
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: and red zone in particular in the last couple of

723
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 3: weeks that Wilson attempted that Kenny wouldn't have, you know,

724
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 3: And that's just a veteran thing, and it's a trust

725
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 3: in your situation and understanding everything moves faster down there

726
00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: being a professional quarterback. So that is as well as liked,

727
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: you know, the game as a fan. You could really

728
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: harp on some negative things. You know, Boy, a lot

729
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 3: of stuff's really sloppy. You got to you gotta have

730
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 3: the quarterback center exchange, you know, the punt return has

731
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 3: to be better. But instead of harping on man, they

732
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: missed an opportunity at that Calvin Austin touchdown. Look how

733
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: well that was designed. Like I've seen a lot of

734
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: routes here where they get the majority of the human

735
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 3: beings in the I'm talking about end zone routes where

736
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 3: the majority of the human beings are going to one

737
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 3: side and then a receiver in this case Austin, it's

738
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 3: Offen Pickens or whomever is really using the width of

739
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: the end zone to their advantage and the quarterback just

740
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: has to kind of throw it to a spot and

741
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: you know, they run under it. And that's really hard

742
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 3: to be in a trail position as a defensive back there,

743
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 3: it's not much you can do because I mean, the

744
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 3: scheme isolates you and him, and he's just kind of

745
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: a race to the pylon type of thing.

746
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: And he knows where he wants to go and you don't.

747
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, now they give you a little inside jab move

748
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: and and the whole all the other twenty players are

749
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: basically going right and you're chasing him left, I mean,

750
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 3: and not to mention the rub routes and the different

751
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 3: play designs near the goal line. So no, I'm I'm

752
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: pretty excited about that stuff.

753
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 2: Moving over to the defensive side of things, yeah, I

754
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: feel a lot better about their defensive line depth, yeah

755
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: than I did.

756
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: Do you agree it's harder for us at least to

757
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 3: judge the defense at camp and it is the offense. Yeah,

758
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, they just have to be governed

759
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 3: a little bit. They can't brass people and you know,

760
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 3: they're not going to bring out full blitzes and things.

761
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 3: I'm with you on the d line, it's not a concern.

762
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 3: It's just an unknown. I really don't have any clue

763
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 3: where Cam Hayward is right now, you know what I.

764
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: Mean, Nor do I.

765
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I assume he hasn't fallen off a cliff. I

766
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 3: assume he's not the best defensive player in the league.

767
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: You know, he's somewhere but somewhere in between that right

768
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: and he's.

769
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so that'll be really interesting to me week one,

770
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: week two what Cam looks like because we're not gonna

771
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 3: see it much until then, I'm sure Ogunjobi's exactly what

772
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,479
Speaker 3: he's been. Benton to me still was on the path

773
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: to stardom. Lee Al's been one of the stories of camp.

774
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 3: Lowry's back now, but who knows. I mean louder Milks

775
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 3: to me is that that career crossroads situation, and Adams

776
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 3: is a good player, and Lee will probably practice squadded

777
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 3: and or be inactive. But that's a lot of pretty

778
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 3: able bodies.

779
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of you know, those those three hundred

780
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: pounders or close to three hundred pounders.

781
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 3: If Leo can step up and Benton is what we

782
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 3: think he is, they'll be fine.

783
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: There's a lot more athleticism there is then maybe maybe

784
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: some previous yeah seasons.

785
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: Oh there's no fat guys or slow footed dudes.

786
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: A right, uh, you know the outside linebackers, they are

787
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: what they are.

788
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: They're kind of keeping those two in bubble wrapped too. Yeah.

789
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see, you know, kenjiamayahmun can I Johnson, you know,

790
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 2: make make a push there to the fourth one.

791
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 3: That's question. Yeah, I mean, how do they handle that

792
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: will be interesting?

793
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: But I thought Kien Johnson and even the Jacobe Winman,

794
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: they've shown a lot of last week here last week

795
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 2: and a half have really started to push.

796
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 3: I urge our listeners to there'll be second half, guys,

797
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,479
Speaker 3: but pay attention to those two on teams and second

798
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: the second half of play fifty three and forty five

799
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: on defense, they both have flashed to say the least.

800
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel really good about the inside linebacker position.

801
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: Very I think that's the best it's been in maybe

802
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: a decade.

803
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: I think so too. And Peyton Wilson's legit, we knew

804
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: Holcombe wasn't going to be involved. Okay, Roberts, My opinion

805
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: hasn't changed one bit. I am interested to watch Queen

806
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 3: more in games, but the way he moves and the

807
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 3: way they're using him implies they have no concerns and

808
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: are pretty darn excited about him. Yea, as they should be.

809
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: And I think we'll see way more nickel. This your

810
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 2: way more nickel than what we've seen in previous years.

811
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 3: And I've been saying that is a good thing, and

812
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 3: I very much believe it to be. I think you're

813
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: much harder to play against and nickel as opposed to

814
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: a heavy percentage of base or dime. However, I would

815
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: be concerned about the dime package now a little bit

816
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: like who are your six best defensive backs? You know.

817
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I think because you're so much better at nickel,

818
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 3: you planned on being in less time. But I hope

819
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 3: it doesn't get to the point where, man our dime package,

820
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 3: we're light on corners or safeties that you're not putting

821
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 3: out you know, eleven of your best players.

822
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't feel bad about the safety position. I

823
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: think that'll be fine.

824
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 3: You know.

825
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: I think some of this is going to depend on

826
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 2: what position they decided to play or allow Ryan Watts

827
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: to settle in at he's one.

828
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 3: I'm intrigued it too. Yeah.

829
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a bigger body guy, but he runs well,

830
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: you know, so we'll see where they go with him.

831
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: The cornerback position, it's up in the air. To man,

832
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: it's up in the air.

833
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think Jackson's had a nice camp. I think

834
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 3: he's a legit starter.

835
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

836
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: I wish Sutton wasn't suspended. That would make all those

837
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 3: problems go away, because if one of the outside guys

838
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: gets hurt, Sutton would be that guy. He'd be the

839
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 3: starting slot. I'm sure we had a conversation earlier about

840
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: you know, the slot could be changing the starter as

841
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: we speak, but then he gets hurt. I just know

842
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 3: that those guys are going to get attacked early on.

843
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: They're unknowns, So the offensive coordinator in Atlanta is probably

844
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 3: scheming to attack your slot. You know, whether they're up

845
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 3: forward or not, we'll find out.

846
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.

847
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: To ask you this too. I think we saw a

848
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: lot more big nickel three safeties early in camp as

849
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: opposed to late. Yeah. I don't know that they're done

850
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 3: with it or anything, but I liked it as another option.

851
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's you know, some days mink has

852
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 2: taken off. Yeah, sure, so maybe they feel pretty secure

853
00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: in that one.

854
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 3: Also, the more you like your linebackers or less, you're

855
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: gonna play big big Nickel. Right. They don't repeat to

856
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,479
Speaker 3: as much or Big Dime for that matter.

857
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, but you still have that capability to do that.

858
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I liked what they I just liked that

859
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 3: the three of them would break the huddle and you

860
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 3: didn't know who was gonna be the middle or who's

861
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 3: gonna be near the right. And that was again, I

862
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 3: think that could be a way of working around.

863
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: Slot issues, particularly against a team like the Falcons, who

864
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 2: you know one of their top receiving threats is a

865
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: big tight end.

866
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Like if their version of twelve personnel is

867
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: two receivers, pits another tight end. I might match that

868
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 3: with Big Nickel. Yeah.

869
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: So to me, I feel like I know a lot

870
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 2: of Steeler fans are all are very high on Corey Schreis.

871
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: I think Darius Rush is the better player.

872
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 3: I do too. I was impressed with him today in

873
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: the tackling drills, the way he broke down. Maybe he's

874
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 3: your next up gunner and see what he can do. Yeah,

875
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 3: I think he's made more plays on the ball all.

876
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: I think he changes directions better. Trice is a little high.

877
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: You know, of course that he's an impressive looking young

878
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: man with his length and all that. But if I

879
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 3: had to pick between the two, I would pick Rush

880
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: and I don't think we've had that conversation, but I

881
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: think we agree. Yeah.

882
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Rush, to me is the is the

883
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 2: better player at this point. But we'll see how that

884
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 2: that position works its way out. I know a lot

885
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: of Steeler fans are are are high on Beanie Bishop

886
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: as mentioned, though Grayland Arnham was getting that shot today.

887
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 2: We'll see if something. You know, how how serious that

888
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 2: calf injury is. But those are spots, particularly slot cornerback

889
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 2: guys are gonna get cut loose.

890
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, they'll become some people available in if

891
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: you go through another preseason game or so and you're

892
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: really worry about it, you could start pounding the pavement

893
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 3: a little bit. Or I mean we're not looking for yeah,

894
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 3: Sauce Gardner, Yeah right, you know, I mean these are

895
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 3: you can find a third safety slot, you know. I mean,

896
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 3: I think Sullivan's out there. I mean, for example, I'm

897
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 3: not suggesting you go sign him, but you could be

898
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: equal to where you were last year. Be nice for

899
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 3: it to be a strength, but I'd be shocked if

900
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: Nichols strength until Sutton comes back.

901
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. In terms of the special team stuff, Cameron

902
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: Johnston is everything really impressive we thought he might be,

903
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: and maybe even more, maybe even more. It really does

904
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: some interesting things with the football, has extreme control as

905
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: well as power and drive and hang time and all

906
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: that stuff. They that might be their biggest upgrade did

907
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: any of the positions. It's possible possible. I mean, I

908
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: think inside linebacker might be the hopefully quarterback.

909
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, quarterback should be.

910
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but definitely some upgrades are I mean, I think

911
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: Boswell is fine, He's Chris Boswell getting Cordero Patterson is

912
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: your kick returner?

913
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: Oh man?

914
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he could you watched him on differentday,

915
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: like when he turns it on.

916
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is impressive. So I have a kickoff question

917
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 3: for you. I mean, do you have to align exactly

918
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 3: that they have? You know, there's too deep too off

919
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 3: the ball?

920
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: You could have one deep?

921
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 3: Can you do one? Because I would never kick the Patters,

922
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like the Steelers have too deep.

923
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: I don't want him hit the ball. Whoever it is,

924
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 3: I'll take option be Yeah, I mean, because he's the

925
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 3: last guy in the league I want to have kicked him.

926
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: Well, you might have some plays off of that, though,

927
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: then I wonder who's that other returner going to be,

928
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 2: you know, is it Let's just suppose Jalen Warren's back

929
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: there as well. I don't know if I want him

930
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 2: running an open space.

931
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 3: Either right right? Right?

932
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 2: No?

933
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 3: Maybe that's the way you make them kick the patters.

934
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: And I don't know, but because I've seen every kickoff

935
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: aligned the same in the league this year, I would

936
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 3: not kick towards him because I think he's scary.

937
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is very scary, especially with this new rule.

938
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: All he needs is to seem and maybe not even

939
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: that because he's gonna run through arm tackles.

940
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 3: That's, as I say, just even watching them not break

941
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: tackles in camp, you can tell he's a tackle breaker

942
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: more than most returns are. And he's muscle on muscle

943
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 3: and a lot of high knees and hard things to

944
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 3: his it's like a stallion running. Yeah, and he's got

945
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: swively hips, you know. I mean he's an interesting athlete,

946
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 3: kind of a rare athlete.

947
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, So I think that's going to be better.

948
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: I think that's going to be a weapon for them

949
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: as well.

950
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 3: You know.

951
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: So there's there's a lot of stuff here.

952
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 3: I think Calvin Austin's a solid punt returner. Yeah we

953
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: didn't see it in the game, but he's gonna be

954
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 3: the punt return Yeah. Not Quys Watkins. No, that experiment

955
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: is pretty well solved.

956
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just fights the football. So yeah, I think

957
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot to like with this team

958
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 2: and where they're at right now. Obviously, injuries are going

959
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: to play a part in all that stuff.

960
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 3: But there's a big stretch still here between now an

961
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: opening day too. Yeah, I bet there's I'm not even

962
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 3: going down the au grout, but I bet that they

963
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: had somebody from outside the team too. I mean almost

964
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 3: every year at this time.

965
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: Something happened on Alexander Joe Hayden, like somebody money to do.

966
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 3: It, right, I mean, somebody comes available, or man, we're

967
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: gonna cut this guy, but he's five million because we

968
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 3: want to go young. Well we can absorb five million.

969
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 3: You know, whatever it is.

970
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 2: You've already seen someone that to start to happen with

971
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: the late round picks and things like that, where guys,

972
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 2: you know, teams, well, the Browns for example, just traded back.

973
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: They got Nick Harris back the center. Yeah, because they

974
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 2: had a center and center injury, and they they swapped

975
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: late round picks with the with with Seattle to make

976
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: that happen Seattle rather the pick. At this point, you know, yeah,

977
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: they're probably gonna cut him. He wasn't gonna make their roster.

978
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: So you just make that move so that those kinds

979
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: of things are going to happen. You know, there may

980
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: be a team out there that, well, we get the

981
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: slot cornerback where he's We got a young guy we

982
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: liked better seventh or.

983
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: Eighth year, he's making three or four million, and he's

984
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 3: better than what the Steelers have next to nothing for him.

985
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's a future seven yeah, you know, just because

986
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: we're considering, you know whatever, just but I bet they

987
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 3: add money of books. Yeah, and they're not going to

988
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 3: be done. It's an active front office or always be

989
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 3: churning by that roster.

990
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you do, and you try to make

991
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: your team better. And Omar Khan shown he's willing to

992
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 2: do pretty much anything to make that happen.

993
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I understand his approach to team

994
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: building and certainly give my stamp of approval to it too,

995
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 3: because as the thing I think is lost on some

996
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 3: people too, is we talked about all the upgrades. You know,

997
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 3: are they better at punter, or they better at quarterback,

998
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 3: they better at O line or they better at linebacker. Well,

999
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: they're better at salary cap they have so much space

1000
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 3: and did all those things we just said. It got

1001
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 3: better at I mean so well, it helps when you're

1002
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: not paying the quarterbacks. It does money, it does, no

1003
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 3: doubt about it. And there's a saying out there. I

1004
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 3: would rather have a franchise quarterback than salary cap space.

1005
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 3: But all that cap space is going to be used someday.

1006
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 3: You know, you're not going to sit on it. No,

1007
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: it's not going to go away. No.

1008
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's interesting. We're going to get to another break.

1009
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: And I are live here from Steelers training camp at

1010
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 2: Saint Vincent College. The Steelers wrapping up their final practice

1011
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: of training camp here a little bit ago. They're working

1012
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: on the fields there, removing the hash marks.

1013
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 3: Right, yeah. I was wondering what they're doing there. I

1014
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 3: mean they're painting the.

1015
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 2: The NFL hash marks NFL the college ones back yeah okay, yeah, yeah,

1016
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: because they're different.

1017
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: They're making them green, making them green, and yeah, put

1018
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 3: the new ones in, I guess tomorrow or today or whatever.

1019
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, sometime Aaron watering the field, getting it already

1020
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 2: here took a beating.

1021
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 3: Took a beating, but luckily the weather was good to us.

1022
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 3: I mean there was years. Remember we would watch them

1023
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 3: try to like dry out puddles that looked like oh,

1024
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 3: Lake Erie, and you know, right.

1025
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: Then the grass would get burned out from the water

1026
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 2: from the water center a regular basis.

1027
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so that part was good.

1028
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: That didn't happen.

1029
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 3: You can do see between the numbers is taking a

1030
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 3: beating and field number one here.

1031
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, But Matt and I'll take a break. We're

1032
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: going to be back with more here on the Steelers

1033
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 2: Audio Network and Fox Sports Pittsburgh. We are live from

1034
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: Steelers training camper. Our final show of training camp twenty

1035
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 2: twenty four. Final segment coming up, final segment coming up

1036
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 2: the start after this, we'll be back.

1037
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

1038
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

1039
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

1040
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly, he is the

1041
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 2: Matt Williams and we are live from Steelers training camp

1042
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 2: here at Saint Vincent College here in beautiful Way Troupe.

1043
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: It is beautiful. Weather's been great, Yeah, great view, cool campus. Yeah. Absolutely.

1044
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: They're adding some stuff here in the next in the

1045
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: coming years here. I guess there's going to be an

1046
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: athletic complex over here to our right.

1047
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 3: Did you say last night that that's going to be

1048
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 3: here next year?

1049
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 2: Expected to be here next year. I will come back,

1050
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 2: so good for them. Yeah, Matt, looking here at something

1051
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: on nfl dot comrade and Maurice Jones. Drew has put

1052
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: together his rank kings of the top thirty two running backs.

1053
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 2: You put each team's lead running back. Okay, so like

1054
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 2: only one Steeler can make only one?

1055
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 3: I gotcha.

1056
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's not the top thirty two running backs

1057
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: per se in the league. It's the each team's lead

1058
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: back lead back and where they rank in the league.

1059
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 2: Here and I thought it interesting. Yeah, just to look

1060
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: here at the even the orders. You know, the order

1061
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 2: is the order, but third kaffrees at the top. And yeah,

1062
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: so at thirty two is Devin Singletary of the Giants.

1063
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he would agree with that. Yeah, and

1064
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 3: an interesting note, Tracy, the young rookie was starting to

1065
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 3: look really good there and got hurt. He got hurt,

1066
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 3: So I hope that could have been maybe unseated Singletary. Yeah.

1067
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: Thirty one is Zach Moss with the Bengals.

1068
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 3: Who do you think that's gonna be? I think they're

1069
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: very different, but they're probably equal players. Yeah.

1070
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: I think Moss is more your every down tyke.

1071
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 3: Back then yeah, I mean Brown as I think more

1072
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 3: big playabilities, fast, but he's not small. I don't know

1073
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 3: if they'll be happy with that backfield or content with

1074
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 3: that backfield or unhappy with that backfield, you know, I.

1075
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 2: Mean no, I mean right there, it is both players

1076
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: thirty first, yeah. Yeah, And I can't necessarily argue that

1077
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 2: I will see who's who they have ranked ahead of

1078
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: them here, But.

1079
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 3: If he was doing it by what backfields? Do you like,

1080
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 3: they wouldn't be thirty first. For me, it's just neither

1081
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 3: one is a one. Yeah, you know what I mean,

1082
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 3: So for this exercise, it should be low.

1083
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 2: At thirty he is Jonathan Brooks for the Carolina Panthers.

1084
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 2: I think he's missing signific It's going to be Chewba Hubbard.

1085
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do too, And I don't know if i'd

1086
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 3: put Brooks thirtieth if I if I'm including him, yeah,

1087
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,479
Speaker 3: I mean he's a rookie. He'd be the only rookie

1088
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 3: on here because it's not Gonna Benson. Yeah, but I

1089
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 3: guess he's unknown. Yeah, don't sleep on Chewba Hubbard.

1090
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: No.

1091
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: At twenty nine is the Titans with Tony Pollard.

1092
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 3: Ooh, I think Spears may have the better year. That's

1093
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 3: another one that who's better when it's all said and done.

1094
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 3: But I have a hard time believing that that low. Yeah,

1095
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 3: Pauler didn't play great until the end, but no one

1096
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: should have expected them to because the injury was coming off.

1097
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 2: At twenty eight. Austin Ekelar with the Commanders.

1098
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 3: I'd have to probably put him lower. I mean, I

1099
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 3: love his career. I think he's still gonna be a

1100
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 3: highly effective receiver. He also played injured much of the year,

1101
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 3: but trust factors got to be low right now at

1102
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 3: his age.

1103
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: One of the things that will help him is a

1104
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: running quarterback.

1105
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. They may play off each other quite well.

1106
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they He kind of freezes the linebackers a little

1107
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 2: bit and allows the running backs of the more room

1108
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 2: to you know, he only averages three point five yards

1109
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 2: to carry last year.

1110
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 3: I bet he averages in This'll be in space war too.

1111
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 2: Washington's offensive line is not good, No it's not, But

1112
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: I bet he averages more than three point five yards

1113
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: to carry.

1114
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 3: Do you think he gets more carries than Brian Robinson?

1115
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 3: Markedly different? Markedly different, right, I mean it depends what

1116
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 3: they want to do. I mean, yeah, Kingsbury's kind of

1117
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 3: known for his spreads and that's more echolar. But Robinson's

1118
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 3: not a bad back.

1119
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: No.

1120
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

1121
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 2: At twenty seven Nick Chubb, I think i'd put him

1122
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 2: thirty second or second.

1123
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean, Like what version of

1124
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 3: you you're going with here? Let's say that's your own

1125
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 3: Ford the thirtieth for you? Yeah, thirty first, me too, Right,

1126
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 3: So I think I.

1127
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 2: Got two of the teams in the division right. Cleveland

1128
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,959
Speaker 2: and Cincinnati were at the bottom of this list.

1129
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 3: I don't think we'll get to Baltimore anytime soon. No.

1130
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 2: At twenty six for their running back situation, would worry.

1131
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 3: It's a mess. Yeah, it's not good.

1132
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 2: Twenty six is Juvante Williams with the Broncos.

1133
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 3: Starting to hear good reports? Who knows? I mean what

1134
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 3: the the version of last year wasn't pretty, but that

1135
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 3: was an awful injury he was trying to get over to. Yeah. Uh.

1136
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: At twenty five, Ezekiel Elliott with the Cowboys, much like

1137
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 2: I would have him lower than that.

1138
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 3: He was way better in New England. I thought I

1139
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 3: thought he would be shot, you know, like not an

1140
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,919
Speaker 3: NFL player anymore. He's still an NFL player, but he'd

1141
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 3: be below Echeler, he'd be below Pollard, he'd below all

1142
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 3: those guys. I mean, that's the worst running back room

1143
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 3: in the league, without a doubt. Yeah.

1144
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: At twenty four, Zamir White with the Raiders, he'd be

1145
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 2: lower two.

1146
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I think he's gonna get a lot

1147
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 3: of volume. We're not talking about fantasy here. I mean

1148
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 3: he's gonna go reasonably high in fantasy because the only

1149
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 3: show in town. But even like Dylan Lobby could get

1150
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 3: invade into his territory. He's had like five good games

1151
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 3: in his life. Yeah, I mean he's okay.

1152
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 2: At twenty three. Is James Connor with the Cardinals.

1153
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 3: A problem with that? Maybe he should have him higher.

1154
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 3: He's still playing pretty well.

1155
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. He averaged the fourth most scrimmage yards among running

1156
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: backs in twenty twenty three, did a game ninety two

1157
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 2: point seven yards per game.

1158
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 3: He's an accomplished receiver, as our listeners know.

1159
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: Problem is he's now twenty nine. Yeah, he never plays

1160
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 2: a full seventeen game schedule.

1161
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean that draft class is like historically good.

1162
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 3: I mean it's Connor and Kamara and McCaffrey and Fournette

1163
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 3: and I mean tons of them, and they're all starting

1164
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 3: to worry me. Yeah.

1165
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's at that time. The threat is the tread

1166
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 2: is a little thin.

1167
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:20,959
Speaker 3: At twenty two.

1168
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 2: You're going to disagree with this one. Remondre Stevenson.

1169
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 3: I would definitely have him higher. He probably like fifteenth,

1170
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 3: but he wouldn't be twenty two. He had a rough year.

1171
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 3: He had a really rough year.

1172
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 2: He did you know they could not throw the football?

1173
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 3: No, it was a power line. Yeah. I think he

1174
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 3: had some injuries too.

1175
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he played twelve games.

1176
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I bet he's better than that.

1177
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 2: Twenty one is Joe Mixon.

1178
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 3: He's also from that class. Yeah, could Pierce be the

1179
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 3: better player than him? I don't know why they disliked Pierce,

1180
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: but Mixon is another one.

1181
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 2: I didn't see it the other day.

1182
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 3: I didn't either, And maybe he just was okay as

1183
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 3: a rookie and now he's just not anymore. I think

1184
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 3: Mixing has lost at least a step. He had very

1185
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 3: very few explosive runs last year.

1186
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. He said more than a thousand rushing yards four

1187
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 2: times in.

1188
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 3: His seven seasons.

1189
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's had twelve hundred and fifty plus scrimmage yards

1190
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 2: in five of his last six years. I mean he's

1191
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 2: been pretty consistent.

1192
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has. And we were at the the Charky's

1193
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 3: last night, and you mentioned something about Nausey and his

1194
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 3: consistency in his yards from scrimmage. Since nause came the league,

1195
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 3: Mixing's kind of the right there with him over that stretch.

1196
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 3: It's just not super flashy from Mixing.

1197
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 2: Uh, it's twenty Isaiah Pacheco, that's where he belonged.

1198
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't say that's not bad. I thought he'd

1199
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 3: be higher than that. I think we've often said if

1200
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 3: what if Pachecko were is he much better than Cuba

1201
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 3: if they were on opposite team? Oh? No, you know

1202
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like they're kind of the same guy.

1203
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he runs into a lot of light boxes. Yeah,

1204
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 2: he runs hard. He's a right no doubt about it.

1205
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 3: He's an important part of that offense. But he's not great.

1206
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 3: I don't think he's a game changer.

1207
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: No, at nineteen Gus Edwards, that's way too high on

1208
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 2: Gus Edwards.

1209
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 3: You talk about a guy that's greatly benefited from playing

1210
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 3: with a Russian quarterback in his career. I mean he's

1211
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 3: way over Like I think he's over five yards per

1212
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 3: carry for his career. He wouldn't be with Carolina. No,

1213
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 3: and last year it was four point one, was it. Yeah?

1214
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,919
Speaker 3: With Lamar he would be like twenty ninth for me. Yeah.

1215
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 3: He's not good, No, not good.

1216
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: He's not better than receives eighteen Kenneth Walker.

1217
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 3: Oh, I'd be way higher on him too. I mean

1218
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 3: that's a big play guy. That's rugged. I mean he's

1219
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 3: not an accomplished receiver, but it's not bad in that regard. No,

1220
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 3: I'd be way higher on him. You're a fan too, right, Yeah?

1221
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, seventeen Naujie Harris. Okay, and this is where I

1222
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 2: got those stats from. So since twenty twenty one, Naji

1223
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 2: Harris ranks in the top four in the league in carries.

1224
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: He has eight hundred and thirty four. That's second most

1225
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: rushing yards. He has three and sixty nine that's the

1226
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: fourth most scrimmage touches. He has nine hundred and seventy

1227
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,479
Speaker 2: eight that is number one.

1228
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 3: Wow, that might blow some of our listeners away.

1229
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 2: And then finally forced missed tackles.

1230
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 3: This is per PFF.

1231
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 2: Two hundred and twenty two. That's first.

1232
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 3: Wow. I mean, think about his rookie year. I mean,

1233
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 3: he forced a lot of tackles just to get back

1234
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. Yeah, and last year he did

1235
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 3: it in space a little more broke off, more chunk runs.

1236
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 3: I'm not just saying this because you know we're on

1237
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network, but I would. I'll bet that

1238
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 3: he's higher on this list one year from now or

1239
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 3: after the if he redoes the list in week thirteen

1240
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 3: or whatever.

1241
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he does do this throughout the season. Yeah, yea, yeah,

1242
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: yeah yeah at sixteen Rashad White, I was.

1243
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 3: Thinking about him whenever you said Zamir White, I'm like

1244
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 3: just crossed my mind. I'm like, I bet Samir or

1245
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 3: Rashad White is going to be way too high on

1246
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 3: this list, and he's way too high at this like.

1247
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 2: Three point six yards of carry.

1248
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and ask him to do any of the nause

1249
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 3: or Remandre stuff, I mean, no chance.

1250
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: No.

1251
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a good receiver. That's about it. That's what

1252
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 3: he does. Yep.

1253
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 2: It's fifteen. Aaron Jones now with the Vikings.

1254
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of his game. He's also from

1255
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 3: that draft class we were talking about. Yeah, I think

1256
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 3: he's held up well though.

1257
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 2: At fourteen Travis atn I.

1258
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 3: Think that's about right. I think some people would put

1259
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 3: him in the top ten, and he's not that he

1260
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 3: really wore down as the season.

1261
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 2: Went on, though it was three point eight yards of carry.

1262
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they drafted Bigsby for a reason, who

1263
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 3: actually has had a decent preseason camp so far. I

1264
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 3: don't think you want ATN to get that Harris workload. Now.

1265
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 2: Two hundred and sixty seven carries for him last year

1266
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 2: was probably too many.

1267
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 3: Probably in a minute. Yeah.

1268
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 2: Uh. Thirteen Alvin Kamara, ooh.

1269
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 3: I think he's way too to mixing, Yeah, way too high.

1270
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 3: Caught a lot of passes again, Derek Carr checked downs

1271
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 3: and he always does. But you look at his rushing

1272
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 3: efficiency and I think it's really starting to fall off.

1273
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 2: Still catches the ball well and yeah, you know, but

1274
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 2: I love his career.

1275
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 3: I mean, he's one of my favorite backs in the

1276
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 3: last ten years or so. But I don't think he's

1277
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 3: the same guy. Twelve. I wonder if he ends up

1278
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 3: on another team at some point this year, maybe they

1279
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 3: could die all depart. Yeah.

1280
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 2: Twelve is James Cook with the Bills.

1281
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 3: Okay, I think he's dynamic. Yeah, I mean he's really

1282
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 3: finished the season strong. I mean, even though it was

1283
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 3: a rookie year. I mean he's Yeah, I'm okay with that.

1284
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 3: Comparing him to Nausey and Ramandre is kind of hard,

1285
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 3: you know.

1286
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but eleven DeAndre Swift Bears.

1287
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 3: I mean he flashes, but he's been in great situation.

1288
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 2: Teams keep giving up on him.

1289
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't understand it all why the Bears had

1290
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 3: to have him the second free agency opened. I think

1291
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 3: he's much more of a tease, not much of an

1292
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 3: inside runner. I mean, there's a lot of talent there,

1293
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 3: but he hasn't quite lived up to it.

1294
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ten Josh Jacobs now with the Packers.

1295
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 3: He's starting to worry at me too. I thought last

1296
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 3: year was a big step backwards for him. Yeah, we'll see.

1297
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 2: He's a hard runner though.

1298
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 3: Oh I love his style. Yeah, absolutely, But those guys

1299
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 3: don't last.

1300
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 2: Nine is Jonathan Taylor.

1301
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 3: I mean I wouldn't trade a Nausey you for Josh Jacobs. No,

1302
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 3: you know, no, I wouldn't either. Taylor will be higher

1303
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 3: for me. I think he's a do it all, big

1304
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 3: home run power, agile.

1305
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 2: Doesn't catch the ball.

1306
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 3: No, he's not a great receiver. Yeah that's the Yeah.

1307
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,479
Speaker 2: There are probably some guys above him on this list

1308
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 2: that probably catch the ball.

1309
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 3: Probably everyone, but Henry catches the ball better. Yeah.

1310
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 2: Eight is b Jean Robinson.

1311
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 3: He may have to be a one next year. Yeah

1312
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 3: that's that's a little harsh on him too.

1313
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Steelers will see him in week one.

1314
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a handful.

1315
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 2: Seven Jamior Gibbs.

1316
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with that. Yeah, super dynamic.

1317
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 3: I mean he needs the Mount Montgomery, but what he

1318
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 3: does is hard to find.

1319
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. Six Oh, come on, Rahem Mostert h

1320
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 2: out good lord, I think a Chan is going to

1321
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 2: be the better player.

1322
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Vegus Mostard has a bigger workload, he

1323
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 3: would be.

1324
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 2: It's another guy that runs into a completely empty boxes.

1325
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean I don't know that he'd be

1326
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 3: in my top sixteen.

1327
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 2: But he had eighteen rushing touchdowns.

1328
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,439
Speaker 3: That's great. I mean, so would of most backs. Yeah,

1329
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 3: you know, and he won't this year.

1330
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: Five Saquon Barkley. Yeah, I'm fine with that.

1331
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 3: He's not. He still tries to hit the home run

1332
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 3: a little bit. His protection is not great, but he

1333
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 3: could have a monster season. And yeah, I mean he's

1334
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 3: a top five guy. Sure. Four is Kyn Williams, who

1335
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 3: I could see MGD loving him because he's a tough

1336
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 3: little guy that does all the hard stuff and coaches

1337
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 3: a dorum. He was a team captain at Notre Dame

1338
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 3: and everyone loved them there, and I get that. I'd

1339
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 3: much ratter play against him than Beijon. Yeah, I mean,

1340
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 3: no doubt. Yeah, this sounds terrible, but if Kieron Williams

1341
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 3: were a Steeler, he'd be their third back. Yeah, I

1342
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 3: really believe that. Yeah, I mean I think he'd be

1343
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 3: on the team as a third back. And boy, what's

1344
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 3: he doing on special teams? Or you know, Three is

1345
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 3: Briest Hall. I'm fine with that too. I think he

1346
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 3: could be special.

1347
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Two is Derrick Henry. One is Christian McCaffrey.

1348
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 3: What's the chances those two are there at the end

1349
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 3: of the season, I mean, considering their.

1350
01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: Age, that's the thing.

1351
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 3: I like Hall or Beijon's chance of getting in that

1352
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 3: top two. Yeah, you know, or even a Gibbs or

1353
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 3: you know, someone young.

1354
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 2: And if Derrick Henry isn't that guy for the Ravens, right,

1355
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 2: if McCaffrey isn't that guy from San Francisco.

1356
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 3: If they're just ten percent less, I mean I'm sure

1357
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 3: they won't be bad. That seriously hurts both of those teams, right,

1358
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 3: I know, Lamar is a wonderful, wonderful runner, but they're

1359
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 3: gonna count on Henry's gonna make them hard to play against,

1360
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 3: and those two could make their line concerns a lot

1361
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 3: less concerning. But man, he's I'm done doubting Derrick Henry

1362
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 3: because I think he's special. I mean, he's Adrian Peterson

1363
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 3: was that way every year. You thought he'd fall off,

1364
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 3: although he did at the end. I don't know. The

1365
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 3: Henry Lamar dynamic, to me is really scary for the

1366
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 3: rest of the league. But a little subject to air

1367
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 3: or too.

1368
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just you know, I think when you look

1369
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 2: at the number of carries Derrick Henry has had.

1370
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 3: Yeah over us. So here here's just carry numbers.

1371
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're a mens since he became like the

1372
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 2: full time start a year or two.

1373
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's by the way. I think it was Arthur

1374
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 3: Smith that kind of put his foot on unleashed him.

1375
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 3: Yeh yeh yeah.

1376
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. So in twenty eighteen, Henry had two hundred and

1377
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 2: fifteen carries. He started twelve games that year. Okay, the

1378
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 2: next year he led the league with three hundred three carries.

1379
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 3: This is when he's becoming King Henry. Yeah.

1380
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 2: The following season, twenty twenty led the league with three

1381
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy eight carries seventy eight. Twenty twenty one,

1382
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 2: he only played eight games. He had two hundred nineteen carries. No,

1383
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 2: Gie Harris led the league in carries that year.

1384
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember this, but football outsiders

1385
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 3: used to have the rule of three sixty. Yeah, if

1386
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 3: you get three hundred and sixty carries, your career falls

1387
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 3: off a cliff. Well, he only played eight games the

1388
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 3: next year, you know, Yeah, And I think he they've

1389
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 3: kind of gone off that because nobody gets three sixty anymore.

1390
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 3: But I mean, that's that's an immense number, I guess,

1391
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 3: is my point.

1392
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two he got three forty nine.

1393
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 3: Wow.

1394
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 2: And then last.

1395
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 3: Season these aren't dainty little carries.

1396
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 2: Yet that led the league. And then last year it

1397
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 2: was two eighty, which led the league.

1398
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 3: Wow, it's amazing the two eighty now leads the league.

1399
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, for the last five years he has led

1400
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 2: the league in rushing attempts.

1401
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 3: He has to be the most over the last five

1402
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,959
Speaker 3: years or whatever. And I thought he got the least

1403
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 3: help he's ever had last year, and he's not quite

1404
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 3: the same player it was a couple of years ago.

1405
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 3: But he got a lot of yards after contact. I

1406
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 3: did a just a quick like spreadsheet nerd thing, and

1407
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 3: Tennessee's running game was one of the best after contact

1408
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 3: in the league. You know him to him, Yeah, and

1409
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 3: they were getting contact behind the line of scrimmage all

1410
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 3: the time.

1411
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 2: So his yards per carry though twenty nineteen was five

1412
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 2: point one. Yards of carry, twenty twenty was five point four,

1413
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one four point three, twenty twenty two four

1414
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 2: point four. Last season was four point two.

1415
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 3: Over four is good no matter what.

1416
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's I don't think he's the home run threat.

1417
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 3: That used to be. I think we're on the same

1418
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 3: page with that. I mean, how many Thursday night games

1419
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 3: do we see him against bad Jacksonville or Houston teams?

1420
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 3: He's running for him and people down the field in

1421
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 3: the Olympics right with a bunch of teenagers chasing him

1422
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 3: or whatever. Right, those days might be gone.

1423
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 2: He's got too over over two thousand career rushing attempts.

1424
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 3: How many touchdowns he scored in his life? Uh?

1425
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 2: Ninety?

1426
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 3: Okay? I mean, how many catches does he have in

1427
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 3: his life? But hey, he has one hundred and fifty

1428
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 3: five okay, And there was a year or two there

1429
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 3: that he was catching. They were at least trying to

1430
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 3: like drop it to him in space. He's funny, though.

1431
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 3: I heard somebody describe it like this. He he catches

1432
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 3: a ball like a beach ball. It's like these big, wide,

1433
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:47,439
Speaker 3: clapping hands. He's very unnatural at it, but certain type

1434
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 3: of back. I mean, he hit him behind the line

1435
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 3: of scrimmage, which this line will probably allow for. But

1436
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 3: Tennessee's was worse. I don't know. I think he's a

1437
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 3: real wild card this year. Yeah, it's something that the

1438
01:06:59,000 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 3: Ravens haven't had.

1439
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 2: It really is, and that's going to be the interesting

1440
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 2: part of this, you know, with Baltimore, which is why

1441
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about it so much. Sure, you know,

1442
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 2: he's twenty nine years old. Now wait, if McCaffrey slips

1443
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 2: a little too, it could start to happen.

1444
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, it's going to happen. Yeah, I mean it is.

1445
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 3: I mean, I said, I thought Mixing and Kamara both

1446
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 3: noticeably dropped off last year. They're all about that same age.

1447
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 3: I mean, Twenty nine is old for running back. Few

1448
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 3: are accomplishing what these guys.

1449
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 2: Twenty nine is old when you have over two thousand carries. Yeah,

1450
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 2: and he's built differently in everybody else. Yeah, But I mean,

1451
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 2: the Niners a real contender. If McCaffrey's not one of

1452
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 2: the best players in the league, I don't know. I

1453
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 2: mean so much is asked of him too, just because

1454
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 2: of his versatility, and I can tell you they weren't

1455
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 2: before they got.

1456
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 3: Him, right, I mean, that's a turning point in their life. Yeah,

1457
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you're more perty centric and for

1458
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 3: better or worse. But they don't have a back behind

1459
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 3: him that couldn't do anything close.

1460
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 2: No, I know they don't. Just looking here at his

1461
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 2: yards after contact, Henry, Yeah, yards after contact has gone down.

1462
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 2: It went from three point two to two point eight

1463
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 2: to two point two to two point three to two

1464
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 2: point one last year. Again, he's not breaking the eighty

1465
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 2: yard ors. Yeah, it's not quite what it used to be.

1466
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 2: Yards before contact was actually two yards before contact last year,

1467
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 2: which wasn't much different from when it was in twenty eighteen.

1468
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 2: Twenty nineteen was one point nine.

1469
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 3: I would have thought it was soviicably less just with

1470
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 3: who was blocking for him. Yeah, that's a I think

1471
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 3: that's a really interesting addition in if we were Baltimore

1472
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 3: training camp right now, I'd probably be like, man, I

1473
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 3: imagine dealing with Lamar and him. I mean, that's going

1474
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 3: to be problematic for sure. But it's something we haven't

1475
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 3: really seen from that team. I mean, I think that's

1476
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 3: a lot of the things we've talked about with the

1477
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 3: Ravens are things that went out the door that big

1478
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 3: fella came in and could cause problems. Yeah, yeah, but.

1479
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's going could be enough for them.

1480
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 2: I don't know to win this division again. Yeah, I

1481
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 2: don't know. I have a lot of concerns. Yeah, and

1482
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 2: coaching losses as well. They're a good organization, they got

1483
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 2: the m v P, they're gonna I mean, I'm sure

1484
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 2: there'll be a contender. They're going to be in the

1485
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 2: mix as they always are. And the division as a

1486
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 2: whole is nasty, man, it is, it is.

1487
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 3: Really, you know.

1488
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 2: I think, uh, you know, we haven't heard a ton

1489
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 2: out of Cincinnati.

1490
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1491
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:34,560
Speaker 2: How about other than this, why Chase is still practicing?

1492
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 3: Oh, I think you're gonna talk about Mims getting hurt

1493
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 3: for the second time. Noms is so Chase holding in? Yeah,

1494
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 3: isn't he a year or two? I know he is,

1495
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 3: But isn't he a year too young for that? No?

1496
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,839
Speaker 3: I mean he can get a contract a contract, yeah, okay,

1497
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 3: because I mean he's a year old young. He's a

1498
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 3: draft class later.

1499
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 2: Than how you can lay mb and yeah, they can

1500
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 2: bring up him, Okay, they're choosing not to right now.

1501
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 2: And so he is choosing not to practice. And in fact,

1502
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 2: the word yesterday was that he wasn't even seen at

1503
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 2: practice yesterday.

1504
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 3: Really wow. And you know Higgins isn't happy, right, and

1505
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 3: you know Hendrickson Henderson is not happy.

1506
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 2: Could that derail them?

1507
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you wonder. I mean they've gotten so much better

1508
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 3: of it. But in our lifetime, the Bengals and money

1509
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 3: have not been you know, the strength of the team.

1510
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 3: They're not the most like in terms of the whole league.

1511
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Speaker 3: The Browns are at like the top of the league

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Speaker 3: in cash spending. Their owner doesn't care what goes out

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01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 3: of his pocket for better or worse. Well, the Bengals

1514
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 3: are the opposite, and it's it's not about cap space

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01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 3: as much as cash spending. And makes you wonder, like

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Speaker 3: will the next free agent be excited to go there?

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01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 3: Or you know what I mean. I mean, Burrow has

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01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 3: a lot of pull, and that's great, but if both

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01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 3: those receivers are unhappy or sitting out or not giving

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01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 3: it there all or whatever, like their roster. But like

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01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 3: in terms of like blue chip players, they have two

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01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 3: and it's a quarterback and the top receiver. Yeah, and

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01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 3: if that's not the driving force of their team, they

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01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 3: could be pretty average pretty quick, or they could be

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Speaker 3: really good, really quick.

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Speaker 2: If everybody's humming, you know, yeah, if everybody's happy singing Kumbaya, then.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if Dims plays it all this year. I mean,

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01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 3: he needed more work than anybody and now he's missed

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01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 3: tons of camp. I don't know how you could count

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Speaker 3: on him in any way.

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01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, unless they have to play him, unless they have

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01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 2: an injury or something like that. But he's missed. This

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01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 2: is his second injury in camp and.

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Speaker 3: He's the rose of It's kind of like JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: The quarterback that needed the most reps, the tackle that

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Speaker 3: needed the most reps isn't going to get them. So

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Speaker 3: if he has to get thrown in the lineup and

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01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 3: weak eight against DJ Watt or whatever, Miles Garrett or

1539
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 3: you know, that might not go well at all.

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01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see where that goes. I just thought

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01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,679
Speaker 2: that was interesting with Cleveland a lot about.

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01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 3: Chase though, Like no one seems me talking eye tak

1543
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,759
Speaker 3: about Lam and I you know all these others again.

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01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little different, but not doing it. They're not

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01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 2: trading him.

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01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 3: They're not trading him. No, I don't know if he'll

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01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 3: sit out games or not. We'll see, we'll see, we'll see.

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01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 2: I mean that that would certainly get Mike Brown's attention.

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01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 3: And when they pay him, it's gonna be Jefferson money.

1550
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be right Saint Brown, I U money.

1551
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 3: It's gonna be Jefferson money. Yeah. Yeah, that's a check.

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01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 2: That'll be interesting to see Cleveland, uh coming out and

1553
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 2: saying Kevin Stefanski saying that Deshaun Watson has been cleared

1554
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 2: for contact about finally and he will start and play

1555
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 2: in the final preseason game.

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Speaker 3: Good. I'm interested to watch him. Let me see what

1557
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 3: he looks like out there.

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01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 2: I don't think he's troublesome though that he just got

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01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 2: cleared for contact. Yeah, this week.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think Chubb's gonna do anything in the

1561
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 3: preseason too, if at all.

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01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 2: I don't think he starts a regular season on the

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01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 2: active roster.

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01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 3: I don't either. I mean I brought this up last week.

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01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 3: I didn't realize it was this extreme. But he went

1566
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 3: from eleven million a year to like one million a year. Yeah,

1567
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 3: and he has incentives that he can get back to

1568
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 3: eleven but he basically has to be like the best

1569
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 3: back in the league to get him, and they have

1570
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 3: to win the super Bowl or something crazy, you know,

1571
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 3: like money talks. You know, if that, if that's what

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01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 3: he thought was the best option financially, was to return

1573
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 3: to the Browns at one million a year, I don't

1574
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 3: know that he plays at all this year.

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Speaker 2: My point about all of this talk about the teams

1576
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 2: in the division is that this training camp for the

1577
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 2: Steelers has been pretty non There.

1578
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 3: Hasn't been a lot of drama too. There hasn't been

1579
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 3: no right, I mean, even like the quarterback stuff. I mean,

1580
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:42,480
Speaker 3: people outside Latrobe have said, oh, is this the opportunity

1581
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 3: Fields needs to be the starter? That there's a real

1582
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 3: controversy was never I mean there never was. And then

1583
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 3: if you're sitting here watching and Russ is bouncing around

1584
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 3: and doing stuff before and after practice. Like I bet

1585
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 3: if they played the Bengals this week, he would have played.

1586
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the stuff where people Well, Arthur Smith

1587
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 2: said he really likes how you know, how how uh

1588
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 2: Fields is looking here. Yeah, that's what he's gonna say,

1589
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 2: And the next sentence wasn't I hate Russell Wilson.

1590
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 3: You're allowed to say something good about You're not gonna

1591
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 3: Oh he looks terrible. I mean, Allan's looked better than

1592
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:18,560
Speaker 3: I thought too, It doesn't. He's a starter, right, Plumbley's

1593
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,640
Speaker 3: fun to watch too. I mean, I don't know. I

1594
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 3: mean I think people came into that, aren't close, came

1595
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 3: into the the whole camp situation thinking it was a

1596
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 3: quarterback competition and tragedy would have happened for there to

1597
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 3: be a true switching quarterback. Yeah, Wilson has been. We

1598
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 3: started the show talking about how strong Wilson's looked.

1599
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think he's Uh. They're very happy with him,

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01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 2: yeah for sure, But yeah, I think they're happy to

1601
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 2: be getting done with training camp as well.

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01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 3: I am in as well, aren't you? Yeah? I think so.

1603
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 3: I think I'm good work getting doing treatments as well too. Absolutely,

1604
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 3: get into this thing and be back at you tomorrow.

1605
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 3: We will be back go live.

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01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 2: From Steelers training camp practices at one to three. It's

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01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 2: actually not really I guess it's kind of a training

1608
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 2: camp practice. Akrocher Stadium. The Steelers will be working against

1609
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills that is closed to the public, so

1610
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 2: that don't head down there and have to get into

1611
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 2: the stadium. That won't happen.

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01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 3: Payton the numbers. Now they did the hash Mark's last break. Yep.

1613
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 2: Getting it all finished up, you won't even well, you'll

1614
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 2: still know training camp here. But hey, Steeler fans, you

1615
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 2: can get up with the latest sideline apparel, hats or

1616
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 2: jerseys of your favorite players, authentic memorabilia, custom items, and

1617
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,640
Speaker 2: exclusives you can only find directly from the team at

1618
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 2: one of the official.

1619
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 3: Steelers pro shops.

1620
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Speaker 2: They're located at Akrosser Stadium, Grove City Premium, ount Let's,

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01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 2: or Tanger out Let's, or you can visit online at

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Speaker 2: shop dot Steelers dot com. Matt, it's been a fun camp.

1623
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 3: It has been going to be a good weather. I

1624
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 3: like these practices in the morning, kind of made the

1625
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 3: day go a little crisper, you know, and worked that

1626
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 3: quite well. We had a lot of fun on the

1627
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 3: air in the evenings, all that good stuff too, So

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01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 3: it's always a good time. Yep.

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01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 2: Absolutely, crowds were great out yet they were all they

1630
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 2: were just outstanding every day, huge crowds. I think a

1631
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 2: lot of people are excited about this football team.

1632
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 3: If you missed it, come next year. I mean it's.

1633
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 2: Absolutely you got to get in here and see training

1634
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,679
Speaker 2: camp practice if you haven't been, If you call yourself

1635
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 2: a Steeler fans, you got to do that.

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01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1637
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 2: You get pretty close to the action too, absolutely, and

1638
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 2: you get the chance to see these guys running around

1639
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 2: and get a real sense of just how big some

1640
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 2: of these.

1641
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 3: Guys are are. What they do on a day to

1642
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 3: day basis, an hourly basis is really impressive. Absolutely.

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01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 2: But for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller back

1644
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,759
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh keeping us on the air as he always

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01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 2: so capably does, I'm Dale Ellie. We thank you for

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Speaker 2: listening to this edition of The Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network and Fox Sports Pittsburgh.