WEBVTT - Fresh CBA proposal + Braves checkup

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<v Speaker 1>Hazes kind of covers the Braves for the athletic joins

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<v Speaker 1>us again, Haz's great to have you on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are we at here? Braves are looking a little

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<v Speaker 2>dicey right now, and it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, Okay, they've started off so well, they'll be fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but wait, the Phillies are on a heater, so add

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<v Speaker 1>all of this up and suddenly they're only two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half games clear of Philadelphia. Is there panic down

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta? I've always said it's a jaded fan base

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<v Speaker 1>that that's so much winning. So are they freaking out

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<v Speaker 1>the fan base?

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<v Speaker 3>Are fans freaking out?

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<v Speaker 4>Of course they're freaking out, you know when you see

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<v Speaker 4>a double digitally turn into a two and a half

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<v Speaker 4>game lead. I think that there's enough panic and there's

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<v Speaker 4>enough concern to be able to react the way Bravestans

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<v Speaker 4>have felt. And you know, obviously I think that's well warranted.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think the feeling within the clubhouse it's a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit different. Like I'm going to go as far

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<v Speaker 4>as say it's a little too nonchalant in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I've talked to a couple of players the clubhouse,

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of them say It's just baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just baseball, that's all it is.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, if this was a slump at the beginning

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<v Speaker 4>of the season and we got hot the way they did,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, at the beginning to where they're at now,

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<v Speaker 4>people will talk about, you know, how great the Bravees

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<v Speaker 4>turnaround's been going so far.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, to be fair, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I've obviously never played any Major League baseball at all, whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never been around for one hundred and sixty two

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<v Speaker 4>games to cover a team in general as a whole.

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<v Speaker 4>So I mean, it could be could be pointed towards baseball.

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<v Speaker 4>But at the same time, you know, I you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I think anybody on any team would be disappointed to

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<v Speaker 4>see your lead go from almost a twelve eleven game

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<v Speaker 4>lead to a t and a half game lead as

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<v Speaker 4>your you know, division opponent is starting to ramp up

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<v Speaker 4>and stuff like that. You know, this is right before

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<v Speaker 4>the All Star Game, and honestly, you know, I would

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<v Speaker 4>go as far as to say that if the Brave's

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<v Speaker 4>bullpen hasn't been as dominant as it has all a year,

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's a really good shot that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they might not have been able to you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>still be within the division lead right now. So I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's kind of interesting the way to see things

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<v Speaker 4>have gone on. I remember when I first took over

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<v Speaker 4>the beat, you know, I was telling everybody it's good

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<v Speaker 4>right now because they're winning. But the but the toughest

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<v Speaker 4>challenge is going to be when this team is slumping it.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, they're slumping pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, so you weren't there last year the whole year, correct?

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<v Speaker 5>You just started this year. I remember when you came on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a month and a half ago.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, a month and a half ago.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you hear any rumblings of isn't this why they

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<v Speaker 5>brought in Walt Weiss? So we didn't have these swoons

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<v Speaker 5>where we didn't have these times where it was like

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<v Speaker 5>what you characterizes nonchalant. Doesn't Walt Weiss bring that like

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<v Speaker 5>fighter's mentality a little bit too?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>When I asked Walt Weiss on Sunday, I haven't been

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<v Speaker 4>with the team in Atlanta right now because I'm back

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<v Speaker 4>home visiting California. But you know, in the time that

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<v Speaker 4>I asked, IIM mean, I straight up asked him on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, well, you know, you guys went from a

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<v Speaker 4>double digit league to at the time it was a

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<v Speaker 4>three game lead. I mean, how frustrating is that he said,

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<v Speaker 4>I could care less what the lead is right now,

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<v Speaker 4>you know that he doesn't care about anybody by themselves

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<v Speaker 4>and stuff. And I think it really has been attributed

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<v Speaker 4>to to you know, to just you know, the stretch

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<v Speaker 4>of a long season. I think Walt does have that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I was actually working on the story at

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<v Speaker 4>Base America about just the impact that you know, what

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<v Speaker 4>Weiss has had, you know, with this team, just a

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<v Speaker 4>specific scenario, specific circumstance that they're involved with, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of people say that he's a no

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<v Speaker 4>bs no type of guy that's gonna get stuff done,

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of the people, a lot of the

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<v Speaker 4>people in the clubhouse speed off of that. So I

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<v Speaker 4>think I think it's definitely the right guy that they

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<v Speaker 4>have in charge. It's a guy that has a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of familiarity with some of these guys that've been in

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<v Speaker 4>the organization, you know, as you know, seven or eight

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<v Speaker 4>years at this point too, around the same time that

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<v Speaker 4>he was brought in to you know, be part of

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<v Speaker 4>the staff. So I think I think it's definitely the

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<v Speaker 4>right guy to be able to kind of guide him

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<v Speaker 4>through this stuff. You know, a guy who's coached, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>some pretty abysmal teams when he was with the Rockies

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<v Speaker 4>is also the guy who's also played through all different

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<v Speaker 4>you know, eras of baseball and stuff like too. So

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<v Speaker 4>there's no doubt that wal Wiss is the guy to

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<v Speaker 4>definitely push him through through this slump in just this

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<v Speaker 4>entire season as a whole.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, so we know they're struggling. They had a really

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<v Speaker 7>good start. Now they're struggling. Talk to me about needs.

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<v Speaker 7>What do they need? Eventually once his trade, that line

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<v Speaker 7>comes on, because I feel like they're going to be

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<v Speaker 7>in it and want some people talk about the number

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<v Speaker 7>one need this team really needs to get them over

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<v Speaker 7>the hump to win this division.

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<v Speaker 6>It's starting pitching, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think once you saw the Brave starting pitching,

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<v Speaker 4>not you know, performed that they were at the beginning

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<v Speaker 4>of the season, I think that's when everything went hand

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<v Speaker 4>in hand to the struggles that they were able to

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<v Speaker 4>get go. Look, I mean Chris Sale, Chris Sale is

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<v Speaker 4>going to be Chris Sale. I think there's no necessarily,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, concern about him. You know, He's the guy

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<v Speaker 4>that's going to lead the rotation throughout the entire year

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<v Speaker 4>and especially into the playoffs, you know, with this team's aspirations,

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<v Speaker 4>but you look at everybody else. Yes, they lost Spencer Strider,

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<v Speaker 4>but Spencer Strider wasn't performing like vintage Spencer Strider. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>after everything that he had gone through. They may not

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<v Speaker 4>get him back until September. Anything. Grant Holmes Gang, get

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<v Speaker 4>past the fifth Indium and he'll give you five solid Aliens.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's about is Martin Perez. You know, I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's been really impressive. I think, you know, a guy

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<v Speaker 4>that just continues to show up and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I know he had a blip yesterday, but I mean

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<v Speaker 4>this Martin Perez necessarily a guy that you want at

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<v Speaker 4>the forefront, you know, when you're pitching meaningful games in October.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know about that. So I think, as I've

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<v Speaker 4>said right now, the biggest thing is starting pitching. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>they have to go, I think for more than you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it has to be at least a pair of really

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<v Speaker 4>good starters to be able to kind of bolster them

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<v Speaker 4>down the road. Because outside of Chris Sale, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Bryce Hilda had a fantastic start, but it just hasn't

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<v Speaker 4>been the same over the course of the past over

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<v Speaker 4>the past month in general, So I think the need

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<v Speaker 4>for starting pitchings and is important.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I know they've been linked to Sonny Gray when Spencer

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<v Speaker 4>Strider went on The Angeless Sunner. Gray was one of

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<v Speaker 4>the guys that I mentioned as a guy that potentially

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<v Speaker 4>could fit in within the Braves organization. But as we

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<v Speaker 4>seem too, the Braves have started to get dabbled into

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<v Speaker 4>the tark school ball sweet sticks. So I think they

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<v Speaker 4>definitely have the farm system to be able to make

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<v Speaker 4>those moves, whether it's for schoolbol or anybody else. But

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<v Speaker 4>it definitely has to be starting pitching. That's I think

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<v Speaker 4>number one need at you know, once the trade deadline approaches.

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<v Speaker 7>How about bullpener? Sorry, Kratzy, I want to go to

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<v Speaker 7>the bullpen? You know, how about the bullpen needs Rob Suarez?

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<v Speaker 7>Robert Suarez went down, talked to me. Are they in

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<v Speaker 7>the mood to look for one of those pieces too?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I think if Robert Swarz was an injury,

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't have suggested, you know, another bullpen piece. But

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<v Speaker 4>now you know, I think that it's important, especially with

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<v Speaker 4>the with the injury that Suarez is dealing with right now,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, I think they have Diddy or Flints

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<v Speaker 4>who's gonna do a really good job in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 4>stepping up into that, you know, setup guy, eighth inning guy,

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<v Speaker 4>seventh inning guy, and Dylan Lee two. I mean, has

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<v Speaker 4>been one of the best left handed relievers in all

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<v Speaker 4>the game. But I don't think it's enough you know,

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<v Speaker 4>attention with what he's been doing so far. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think there definitely should be a little bit of a push,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, especially as they start to discover maybe how

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<v Speaker 4>longer Robert Swarz is going to be out more because

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Robert Suarez, you know, was potentially the best

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<v Speaker 4>reliever in the game, you know, before the injury going down.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, I think I think, you know, bullpen arms,

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<v Speaker 4>especially once you get into October.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if you're you know, it's not a leeway

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<v Speaker 3>where you're starter.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you're gonna try to get good five innings,

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<v Speaker 4>five six innings for them. Know, if they're not performing

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<v Speaker 4>in the second or the third inning, you're gonna go

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<v Speaker 4>to the bullpen right away.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 4>Pitching gets you so far, whether it's the starting rotation

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<v Speaker 4>or the bullpen, and you know these late months of

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<v Speaker 4>the season, especially into the playoffs, so I think it

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<v Speaker 4>would be wise for him to get another guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi serious, I know you weren't with the team, but

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<v Speaker 5>who was the best pitcher on the Braves starting rotation

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<v Speaker 5>in twenty twenty four when they missed the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>This is going to look really bad on me when

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<v Speaker 3>they missed.

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<v Speaker 6>That's why. Yeah, that's okay, Chris.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I thought it was a trick question.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, it has to be Chris Sale.

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<v Speaker 5>But somebody had a one nine to nine er and

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<v Speaker 5>that was Ronaldo Lopez. Are the Braves excited about what

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<v Speaker 5>they've seen from Ronaldo Lopez or the leary of the

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<v Speaker 5>fact that he didn't throw at all last year and

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<v Speaker 5>if he's going to do well, they can't just ride

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<v Speaker 5>him the rest of the year. But you just said

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<v Speaker 5>they really need starting pitching.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, you know, with him getting the spot starting

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<v Speaker 4>in San Francisco on Friday, I think it's a good

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<v Speaker 4>first assessment. I think the most important thing is, like

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<v Speaker 4>the velocity just isn't as what it was beforehand. I think,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, there was a couple of excor base shits

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<v Speaker 4>that he gave up that came on you know, balls

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<v Speaker 4>that were under ninety three miles per hour heading into that.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think, more than anything's just going to be

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<v Speaker 4>able to get an assessment of how much they'll be

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<v Speaker 4>able to stretch him out. I know he's scheduled to

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<v Speaker 4>go today, Martine Press went yesterday. I think it's about

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<v Speaker 4>stretching him out as much as possible, you know. I

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<v Speaker 4>think he also had a couple of you know, appearances

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<v Speaker 4>in the bullpen that you know, didn't necessarily go his way.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean, yeah, I mean we have to remember

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<v Speaker 4>what type of picture when Aldo Lopez was prior to this.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean he's an All Star, he was an All

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<v Speaker 4>Star before. He's a guy that absolutely dominated during this time,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, as a starter, and you know, things haven't

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<v Speaker 4>gone as well. The injury obviously is just something that

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<v Speaker 4>he can't control because it's, you know, something that happens.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think what he can't control is the way

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<v Speaker 4>he goes out there.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes out to.

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<v Speaker 4>The mountain stuff like that, and I think the Braves,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, signaling him on Friday to give him that

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<v Speaker 4>spot starting then also bringing him out out there to

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<v Speaker 4>show that you know, they are considering him to be

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<v Speaker 4>you know, part of that if he can even fix

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<v Speaker 4>or anything like that. You know, because at his best,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the braves and obviously all of us know

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<v Speaker 4>what he can do. You know, it's just a matter

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<v Speaker 4>of seeing all those results generate onto the mound.

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<v Speaker 5>So we've talked about the pitching, there's the other side

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<v Speaker 5>of the ball. This team was hitting on all cylinders

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<v Speaker 5>with their offense. Was there any significant change that maybe

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<v Speaker 5>looked at it like, ooh when this happened, when this

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<v Speaker 5>player came in, when Dubon stopped playing, you know, a

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<v Speaker 5>consistent one position. Was there something offensively that changed that

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<v Speaker 5>made this team go from just lightning hot to like good, bad,

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<v Speaker 5>good bad, good bad.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I think it's a couple of different things

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<v Speaker 4>I think you could point to. Obviously, the left side

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<v Speaker 4>of the offense just hasn't been as productive, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>both and I wrote stories about this on the Athletic

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<v Speaker 4>If anybody wants to go out and read that but

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Hassan Kim and Austin Riley are both having

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<v Speaker 4>you know, historically back starts in terms of their own

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<v Speaker 4>respective careers, and I think on haws And Kim's side,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's just a really bad start from a shortstop.

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<v Speaker 3>In general, I think it's essentially at to.

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<v Speaker 4>The point where a lot of these you know, when

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<v Speaker 4>it gets to the to both Riley and Hawsong came,

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<v Speaker 4>it's coming close to an automatic out as possible, especially

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<v Speaker 4>on Kim's end, you know. And I think with Ronald

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<v Speaker 4>Acuna going on the injured list, that obviously makes Murracy

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<v Speaker 4>Dubon play a lot more outfield than they have to

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<v Speaker 4>split the shortstop time between Jorge Mate and has Song Kim,

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<v Speaker 4>even though you know, whis this past weekend in San

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<v Speaker 4>Francisco gave all the white, all the all the starts

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<v Speaker 4>to hass Song Kim to kind of get a better

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<v Speaker 4>stretch to see, you know, just you know, everything that's

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they were encouraged by the results that are

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<v Speaker 4>happening in the cage and stuff like that. But at

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the day, I think baseball players don't

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<v Speaker 4>get paid twenty million dollars to have good results on

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<v Speaker 4>the cage. They get paid twenty million dollars to have

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<v Speaker 4>a good result on the field, and unfortunately that's not

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<v Speaker 4>happening from the shortstop end. So I think it's that

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<v Speaker 4>and also too, like Drake Baldwin going down was huge,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, when Kunya was down during his first stint

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<v Speaker 4>on the injured list, you know it had to do

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Balden was the guy that stood that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>stepped up to the occasion at the leadoff spot and

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<v Speaker 4>it's so amazing, had a lot of leadoff home runs,

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<v Speaker 4>was the guy there. Then he goes down with the

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<v Speaker 4>injury just hasn't been quite the same hitter since coming back.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I think there was a stretch where he

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<v Speaker 4>only had two hits and close to thirty at bats,

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<v Speaker 4>one of them being a homer for sure, but like

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<v Speaker 4>it just didn't go the way that he necessarily wanted to.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>That that's a big part of it too, because Baldwin,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it was just such an integral part to

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<v Speaker 4>the to the to that offense and general even if

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<v Speaker 4>A Kunya was still healthy too. You know, I think

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<v Speaker 4>also there's the thing with missing a Kunya is sure

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<v Speaker 4>you know, maybe it's not the season Ronald A Kunye

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<v Speaker 4>Junior is accustomed to having, but there's no doubt that

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<v Speaker 4>his presence in the lanea brings so much more spark,

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<v Speaker 4>so much more flavor, and just so much more energy.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he hasn't been on the road. You can

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<v Speaker 4>tell his presence hasn't been on the road because of

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<v Speaker 4>the way he interacts with the players and the way

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<v Speaker 4>he stands out there. So I think it's it's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of the injury. You could say that the injury

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<v Speaker 4>bug is starting to catch up. It's been catching up

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<v Speaker 4>to them, but now it's obviously showing, you know, in

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<v Speaker 4>the in the way that they've lost the lead in

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<v Speaker 4>the India what's called in the NL East.

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<v Speaker 5>You talked about Hassung Kim, and I want to hit

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<v Speaker 5>on it a little bit more for people who don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>He's five for seventy three on the season for an

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<v Speaker 5>sixty eight batting average is a minus twenty nine ops plus.

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<v Speaker 6>It's under one hundred at bats.

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<v Speaker 5>Where do you see this number of at bats going

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<v Speaker 5>where they still continue to give Hasung Kim the number

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<v Speaker 5>one reps at shortstop.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's interesting you mentioned that because about as a

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<v Speaker 3>year ago, a month ago, when we were in Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 3>towards the end of the month, you know, they were

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<v Speaker 3>playing Jorge Matale the hot hand. I mean, he showed

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<v Speaker 3>what he could do in.

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<v Speaker 4>That stretch between Boston and Cincinnati, had games where he

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<v Speaker 4>went back to back homers, was getting on base.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Also got to remember, at one point, Jorge Matail was

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<v Speaker 4>the number one prospect in the Yankee system over Aaron

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<v Speaker 4>Judge and over Gary Sanchez. You know, just nothing came

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<v Speaker 4>into fruition after he was treated to the A's and

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<v Speaker 4>I believe that that in one of the deals with

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<v Speaker 4>one of the starting pitchers. So uh So, I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's interesting to see now that they've shifted to

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<v Speaker 4>this philosophy where it's like, Okay, we want to give

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Kim an extended look to see the stuff

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<v Speaker 4>that he's been putting into the cages.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think at this point, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, you you have to play at your hot hand,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and at this point, you know, with the

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<v Speaker 4>dubon into yau Field, I think it has to be Matteo,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and when when Ronald the Kuna Junior gets healthy,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you place you know, Dubon at that everyday

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<v Speaker 4>shortstop spot, you know, I you know, I think anybody

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<v Speaker 4>who who wants to win, you know, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>the Braids really do want to when you want to

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<v Speaker 4>put your best nine players out there that are going

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<v Speaker 4>to put you in that position to play, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and objectively speaking, we know the type of player has

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<v Speaker 4>Song Kim has been in the past, you know, a

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<v Speaker 4>goal glove winner. You know, we know what he did

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<v Speaker 4>in Korea. He's such a fantastic player. But this season specifically,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we're almost approaching one hundred at bats and

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<v Speaker 4>you only have you know, five what's it called hits?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that's essentially you know, he's on a one year,

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<v Speaker 4>twenty million dollar deal. I mean, he's essentially getting paid,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, basically, what is it? Four million dollars a hit?

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if my map is correct. That's why

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a sports I think that's that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think at some point there there needs to

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<v Speaker 4>be you know, I don't know how longer that least

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<v Speaker 4>can go that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is accurate four million dollars per hit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Todd more would be on this show if they

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<v Speaker 1>got four million dollars per hit.

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<v Speaker 5>They should pay him more, honey. If we're getting paid

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<v Speaker 5>by hits, I mean, let's go crank it up. They're

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<v Speaker 5>only giving him four million dollars worth each it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is because becoming a historic slump for Kim. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that's mon stars right there, Todd father, right, that's

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<v Speaker 1>space jam like someone took his powers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just not there. It's raising me.

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<v Speaker 5>It makes me question that injury fallings and cutting his finger,

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<v Speaker 5>is that what it was?

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<v Speaker 6>Or breaking his finger?

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<v Speaker 2>And I believe he slipped on ice in off season, right.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 4>And also too, he hasn't had back spring training in

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<v Speaker 4>back to back years too, which you know, as you

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<v Speaker 4>guys know, that's such a pivotal rule. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 4>allows you to you know, be a little bit more

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<v Speaker 4>loose in the cage. It allows you to be more

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<v Speaker 4>loose at in the bats when you're playing you know,

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<v Speaker 4>games in March in Florida compared to you know, wanting

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<v Speaker 4>to go out there coming with a set plan and

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<v Speaker 4>if that plan doesn't work in the first that bats,

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<v Speaker 4>abandoning it because you want to be able to generate

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<v Speaker 4>impact to your team. So I feel for him on that,

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<v Speaker 4>but at the end of the day, you want.

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<v Speaker 6>To win games.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think the sense of urgency really ticks a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit more when you go Like I said, I

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<v Speaker 4>hate to say this much, but going from a double

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<v Speaker 4>digit lead to like a two and a half game lead, like,

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<v Speaker 4>come on, Like there needs to be you know, there.

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<v Speaker 2>Needs to be a sense more of a sense of urgency.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not to say that's not coming from the braids,

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<v Speaker 4>but I mean once that, you know, if that lead

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<v Speaker 4>is gone, like it's panic mode in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, and it is a one year deal,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all right.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're caught with someone who's on a multi year contract,

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<v Speaker 1>it gets really tricky. The comp I couldn't think of

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<v Speaker 1>right now, guys, And he wasn't this bad, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Taylor was going through it a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>ago with the Dodgers and they were letting that ride out.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, they kind of hide him for a

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<v Speaker 1>while while he was working on things, but he never

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<v Speaker 1>really solved it and and just recently retired. But it

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<v Speaker 1>gets tricky. Veteran player making good cash, you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to let him loose and then see him thrive elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>But how many abs are you going to give to

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<v Speaker 1>a player like that? So hazus, thank you for the

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<v Speaker 1>time man. Great to catch up with you as always

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying the work in the athletic and I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>new to the table there are doing a great job,

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<v Speaker 1>So thanks man.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks so much, good appreciated.

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<v Speaker 1>the cap and the money fight at the top, going

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<v Speaker 1>over some of the details and the intricacies. Many of

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<v Speaker 1>these things aren't necessarily going to happen. But what happens

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<v Speaker 1>here over this process is that both sides are going

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<v Speaker 1>to lay out their dream scenario. Right you're right in

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<v Speaker 1>the Santa and you just tell them twenty gifts that

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<v Speaker 1>you want, and then both sides learn what's important to

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<v Speaker 1>them and then they can start bartering when we get

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<v Speaker 1>a deadline in like February. But Krats, can you explain

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<v Speaker 1>some of these things. Here's the proposals today, I'll read

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<v Speaker 1>more of them. So you've got the roster increase from

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six to twenty eight in the first fifteen days,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty day il three months earlier, options down from five

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<v Speaker 1>to three earlier, eligibility for the Rule five draft that

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<v Speaker 1>gives players that have been toiling in the minor leagues

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<v Speaker 1>and opportunity to join a major league club.

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<v Speaker 2>Right the Rule five.

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<v Speaker 1>Draft enables a team to pick a player from another team,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's got to keep him in the majors for

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<v Speaker 1>him to stay on the major league roster. Otherwise you

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<v Speaker 1>have to send him back to the prior team, service time, salary,

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<v Speaker 1>protection for option pitchers, and player access to team collected data.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's some of the highlights there that have been

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<v Speaker 1>pointed out in today's proposals. So, Krats, we're getting layers

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<v Speaker 1>of proposals from each side that are getting more detailed

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<v Speaker 1>now in terms of what they're looking to accomplish. Thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on any of this stuff because you can relate to

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<v Speaker 1>some of these, especially some of the option action going on.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what I'm going to hit on. But first I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going to take my black sharpie and cross out the

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<v Speaker 5>player access to team collected data. All they're going to

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<v Speaker 5>give you access to, Well, this is all we have,

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<v Speaker 5>and then they're going to start a new farming system

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<v Speaker 5>of way. They value players throughout the entire league on

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<v Speaker 5>a one collective group. And that's why everybody's salary just

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<v Speaker 5>stays in line. It's not it's not collusion, it's data collection.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm gonna go to the option thing. Trey Gibson

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<v Speaker 5>this year. I'm hoping we have him on a show soon.

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<v Speaker 5>Trey Gibson, pitcher for the Oils through last night, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>got whacked around a little bit, but he's already been optioned.

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<v Speaker 5>This is his fourth time getting called up this year.

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<v Speaker 5>And so you're talking about a guy who's trying to

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<v Speaker 5>stick in the big leagues as a rookie, as a

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<v Speaker 5>older rookie too, who had a different path, and he's

0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:38.960
<v Speaker 5>just getting shuttled back and forth, back and forth.

0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:40.359
<v Speaker 6>Now he's got a little bit of leeway.

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<v Speaker 5>He's pitched quite a few times, but it's hard enough

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<v Speaker 5>to succeed in the big leagues when teams. Now, they

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<v Speaker 5>made this rule last time, the last CBA about five options.

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<v Speaker 5>That means you can get called up. That's not an

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<v Speaker 5>option sent down now, that's an option that can happen

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<v Speaker 5>five more times. And they had to make this rule

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<v Speaker 5>because it was happening more than that. So there was guys.

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<v Speaker 5>There was guys that were You're trying to compete in

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<v Speaker 5>the big leagues and then you were getting sent down

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<v Speaker 5>for three days, then you get called back up for something,

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<v Speaker 5>then sent back down for ten days, called back up

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<v Speaker 5>for something else. Starters starting, pitchers are missing, starts are

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<v Speaker 5>getting held back, your routine is getting thrown off, and

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<v Speaker 5>then you have to go and compete in the big

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<v Speaker 5>leagues while your family is getting floated around. So I

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<v Speaker 5>love this. I don't think it's like a massive thing,

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<v Speaker 5>but you know what it is, It affects more people

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<v Speaker 5>in the league than that stupid qualifying offer. So if

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<v Speaker 5>they want to put the qualifying offers like WHOA, we're

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<v Speaker 5>going to get rid of the qualifying offer for what

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<v Speaker 5>the like fifteen to seventeen people that it affects even

0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:50.439
<v Speaker 5>though they say yes, the qualifying offer then affects the

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<v Speaker 5>rest of free agents because it slows the market down

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<v Speaker 5>because nobody wants to offer those guys. Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a majority thing that I think. It affects

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<v Speaker 5>more people than people realize, more players than people realize.

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<v Speaker 1>Bingo on the qualifying offer too, Kratz is actually less

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<v Speaker 1>than that per year because let's say, let's say there's

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen guys that get the qualifying offer, ten of them

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<v Speaker 1>are stars, and it's not going to really matter.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to get their contract.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be big, right, if you're getting one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred two hundred, three hundred million dollar contract. The team's

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<v Speaker 1>not worried about the qualifying offer attachment most in most scenarios, right,

0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:27.440
<v Speaker 1>It's sure it's factored in, but it's not a big deal.

0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:30.359
<v Speaker 1>If you're that mid range player and it's a really

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<v Speaker 1>big part of being attached to you, and we've seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>it affects what maybe two to three it's maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more players per year, it's three to five guys.

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<v Speaker 5>But then with each of those three to five guys,

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<v Speaker 5>the argument with the PA is each of those three

0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:49.399
<v Speaker 5>guys have about two other free agents that are attached

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<v Speaker 5>to that player, Like, well, we're not sure what we're

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<v Speaker 5>going to do. Because if Todd has a qualifying offer

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<v Speaker 5>and I also play third base, I'm not getting any

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<v Speaker 5>offers because we're waiting. We're waiting to see what Todd

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<v Speaker 5>does with the qualifying offer or it's attached to him.

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<v Speaker 5>So now that's affecting my value in free agency because

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<v Speaker 5>Todd's better and they don't want to pay me more

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<v Speaker 5>than Todd, but I don't have a qualifying offer. So basically,

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<v Speaker 5>the way I came up with that math was the

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<v Speaker 5>fact that it's three to five guys that it really

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<v Speaker 5>affects who actually have a qualifying offer, and then there's

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<v Speaker 5>three or four players at that player's position that it

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<v Speaker 5>also affects in their free agency.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's fair, that's a good way to explain it.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet still I get what you're saying, the prior

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:38.560
<v Speaker 1>situation affects many more players Todd Father, anything from the

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<v Speaker 1>list here that we pointed out that stands out to you.

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<v Speaker 1>And at one clarification, because I said the sixth day

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<v Speaker 1>IL with the three months earlier whatever, it's allowed for

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<v Speaker 1>placement on players on the sixty day IL as early

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<v Speaker 1>as November tender deadline designed to open additional forty man

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<v Speaker 1>roster spots for clubs in the offseason to replace players

0:23:56.760 --> 0:24:00.440
<v Speaker 1>with known and lengthier injury recovery timelines because right now toime,

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:02.400
<v Speaker 1>you got to wait a few months after that, right

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:04.160
<v Speaker 1>and then things open up and then you can see

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<v Speaker 1>more player activity.

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<v Speaker 2>So this basically allows.

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<v Speaker 1>Teams to put someone on that sixty dail and then

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 1>open up the spot to sign someone else, versus waiting

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<v Speaker 1>until what is it, so December January it's almost spring

0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:18.760
<v Speaker 1>training basically when they usually have to wait for making

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<v Speaker 1>sixty DAYIL moves. But anything else that stands out to.

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<v Speaker 9>You, not really. I don't think these are backbreakers. I think.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, these are little things that you know might

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<v Speaker 7>help during the year. I mean, you know, going from

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<v Speaker 7>twenty six to twenty eight guys, I know they Unless

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<v Speaker 7>I've heard something different, I haven't heard anything different. But

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<v Speaker 7>doing the minor league start a little bit later too,

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<v Speaker 7>before the major league start, is that still a thing cratzy?

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<v Speaker 9>Or they start at the same time.

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<v Speaker 6>That because I mean, because it didn't it wouldn't make

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<v Speaker 6>it didn't before.

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<v Speaker 7>It would make sense to make it to twenty eight guys,

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<v Speaker 7>just because they start, they do start a couple of

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<v Speaker 7>weeks after, might as well get them up there to

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 7>help the team win for the first two weeks. But yeah, nothing,

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 7>nothing mind blowing here. Whatever, Let's let's see where this goes.

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:09.119
<v Speaker 7>I I feel like they're both trying to nickel and

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:11.160
<v Speaker 7>dime here for some things, which is fine, but.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, we'll see where it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, twenty six to twenty eight is fine with me,

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<v Speaker 1>with the exception of still having a max pitcher allowance.

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<v Speaker 1>So in this particular proposal, it's fourteen pitcher max the

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<v Speaker 1>number one what why are shaking your head?

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<v Speaker 2>The number one thing on they will do that. That's

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<v Speaker 2>I know, that's in the proposal. That's in the proposal.

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<v Speaker 9>I know.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm I'm saying they're not going to allow that

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<v Speaker 5>because at the beginning of the year, you have all

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:41.120
<v Speaker 5>your off days, and so the teams are gonna there's

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 5>gonna pump it full of three starters and you know,

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:49.440
<v Speaker 5>twelve relievers right right, somehow the masks, but they still

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:50.160
<v Speaker 5>get tons of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just saying, you gotta be careful on the

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:56.639
<v Speaker 1>on the pitchers that you allow. I know that teams

0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 1>are complaining, hey, we don't have enough for arms. Well,

0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 1>there's a fund of mental issue on why that's a problem.

0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:05.159
<v Speaker 1>But for the I care about the of course I

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 1>care about health, but I but that's the problem is

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 1>some teams are obviously and it doesn't start with teams,

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 1>starts at the youth level. It's all being promoted to

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 1>value velocity and obviously treat your arm like a data point,

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:20.439
<v Speaker 1>and it's leading to more injuries. We've talked about that

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 1>a million times. For the fan experience, there's too many pictures,

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:27.680
<v Speaker 1>there's too many pitching changes. I don't want that.

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:28.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't need.

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I know that we have the like what do you

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:33.560
<v Speaker 1>think of the three batter minimum? I thought it got

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 1>some hate early on, and I know it's not like

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 1>a huge part of the game, but to me it

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 1>is I don't want to see picture in does one

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 1>out he comes out like to me, that's too slow.

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 1>That was part of the pace problem that we had.

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<v Speaker 1>So I actually think it's been pretty valuable. Is it

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.679
<v Speaker 1>the standout thing? Is it the pitch clock? Is it

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>the abs challenge? Just no, and managers were pissed off

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 1>about it, so they're like, this is affecting my strategy.

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:58.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, now you have a new strategy. Okay,

0:26:58.240 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 1>you have to have a picture that can get three

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<v Speaker 1>freaking out in the game.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you think I like it?

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:06.159
<v Speaker 9>Oh? I like it.

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 6>I really like the three picture, the three battery.

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:11.880
<v Speaker 7>That's a little pressure on the pitcher. Let's go left.

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 7>He's got to face two righters or the big righty

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:15.399
<v Speaker 7>coming up.

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<v Speaker 9>It'd be interesting. It makes it interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>Excuse me, I like I like it because there's there's

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 5>the strategy of Okay, my guys faced four guys. Now

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 5>I bring that guy in for one hitter that if

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 5>he doesn't get this last out of the inning, he

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 5>has to face another guy, which then the advantage is

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 5>clearly in the pitching is in a pitcher's hands. That's

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:44.880
<v Speaker 5>why they made that move. And then all of a sudden,

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:49.919
<v Speaker 5>the advantage, win, probability, whatever happens in that bat shifts

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 5>to the offense. And to me, that's what keeps people engaged.

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:56.920
<v Speaker 5>If it's just oh, great, one two, three strikes, you're out.

0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 5>One two, three strikes, you're out. But then there's like

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:02.399
<v Speaker 5>shifts in the momentum and who has the advantage of

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:06.400
<v Speaker 5>a certain situation that keeps fans engaged, And that's that's

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 5>what I like.

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 6>About it.

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<v Speaker 1>Last piece of the puzzle here because we got more details.

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 1>So on the data front, they want players access to

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 1>get access to club collected non proprietary performance data and

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 1>video designed to increase transparency and allow players to track

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 1>their work with the same information that management is using.

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:31.199
<v Speaker 1>That's basically saying, hey, we know that there are some

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 1>systems that everyone's using to evaluate and it's not very

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:36.640
<v Speaker 1>public and we'd like to see that. At the same time,

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 1>when you say non proprietary, this is exactly playing to

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>what Kratz just said. You can go, oh, we tweaked

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>one thing and now it's not. Now it's just ours

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 1>and we don't have to show that to players. You

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Krats So like, you're not going

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>to win this. But you're not going to win this battle,

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 1>even if you know there is a system that they're

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>using to judge players on arbitration and everything else.

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like you can.

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Say, oh, we changed one little formula and now actually

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 1>that so we're not going to share it. It's just

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I get where players are coming from here, but you're

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>not going to win that battle, So asking for it,

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>even if they do say yes, it's kind of it's

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>going to be fake, Like I wouldn't waste AMMO on

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 1>a negotiation by asking for that.

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 5>Nope, that's like saying, well, we want the owners to

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 5>see the books. They're not going to do it. They're

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 5>not going to give the property. I worked for one

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 5>of these info gathering CYS data gathering systems, these companies,

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<v Speaker 5>and they're they're not like they work with all those

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<v Speaker 5>guys I worked with the different teams that were interested

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<v Speaker 5>in the system, and they're just not they're not going

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<v Speaker 5>to give that. Up to the point where the Red

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<v Speaker 5>Sox when I worked with them, had their own proprietary

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<v Speaker 5>system and they wouldn't show the players everything. They were

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<v Speaker 5>showing the coaches, and some of the coaches were like

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<v Speaker 5>why what like what of this am I not allowed

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<v Speaker 5>to show them? Well, let's just let's just keep it.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's just keep it simple for the players, Like, no,

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<v Speaker 5>the best teams show everybody everything because they want the

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<v Speaker 5>best for you, and you want the best for your

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<v Speaker 5>own career, so don't like hide it so you save

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<v Speaker 5>a couple thousand dollars here and there.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the frustration too for players because even like

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<v Speaker 1>almost anyone that played sports at any level can probably

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<v Speaker 1>relate if there's a particular coach that didn't like you

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't figure out why they don't like you, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be like, oh, they're judging me based

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<v Speaker 1>on X, but they won't tell me what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And for the best baseball players in the world, Todd Father,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys just want to know, like how am I

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<v Speaker 1>being judged and how can I work on that one

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<v Speaker 1>thing to fix it? Right, Like when defensive metrics first

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<v Speaker 1>came out, guys were confused about things, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>started to learn about it, and they're like, cool, if

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<v Speaker 1>you think I'm rating poorly on your system, tell me

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<v Speaker 1>what your system's based off of and then I'll improve

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<v Speaker 1>as a player.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the best player. I'm you know, among the best

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<v Speaker 2>players in the world. I played in Major League baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the frustration point.

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<v Speaker 7>Gotcha, gotcha, just after a couple of years, if you

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<v Speaker 7>don't know where to position yourself as an infield or

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<v Speaker 7>an outfield against eighty percent of the players and you

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<v Speaker 7>need all that paperwork and stuff that.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't want to get started with that stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry, but time, but time If you say younger.

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<v Speaker 9>For the younger Cats for the younger Cats.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but if you're saying I'm a year away from

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<v Speaker 5>free agency, this is what I'm hearing about my value, Well,

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<v Speaker 5>then I guess I'm gonna play. I'm gonna play two

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<v Speaker 5>steps over. I don't agree with it, but I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 5>play two steps over. Why because that increases my defensive

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<v Speaker 5>run safe Like it's it's an outfielder. If I play

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<v Speaker 5>back like the team wants me to, now, my range

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<v Speaker 5>advantage is gone because half of my range and my

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<v Speaker 5>circle around me as a player is over the fence

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<v Speaker 5>and I never catch any of those. So I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 5>play more shallow and get better range advantage. And the

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<v Speaker 5>team is gonna say, no, you got to move back.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, okay, well I'm.

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<v Speaker 6>Gonna move forward. Well, you got to move back, but

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<v Speaker 6>I got pay to move forward.

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<v Speaker 9>I understand that.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, speaking about third base, I see a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of third base and play way too far back.

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<v Speaker 9>When there's a runner on first.

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<v Speaker 7>There's there's a whole lot going on that you know,

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<v Speaker 7>to turn a double play, like you need to be

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<v Speaker 7>in certain positions, and it just it's totally different at

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<v Speaker 7>third base. Now guys are playing on the grass in

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<v Speaker 7>the outfield pretty close enough to there for.

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<v Speaker 9>A double play.

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<v Speaker 7>Depth trying to get a double play, and you got

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<v Speaker 7>a guy that has some sort of speed, not cook

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<v Speaker 7>get him out of so.

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<v Speaker 6>But his range is so much better, but his defense.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, to mix your range better because you're far back,

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<v Speaker 7>you can get to that ball and you don't knock

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<v Speaker 7>it down.

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<v Speaker 9>But I want to double play.

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<v Speaker 6>But why why why Todd? Because you want to win exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>But if you get your defensive run saved up because

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<v Speaker 5>you're able to get to the ball down the line

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<v Speaker 5>as a third basement, that is mega value. That's why

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<v Speaker 5>his third basement are picking up platinum gloves because that's

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<v Speaker 5>a double.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a double.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you might not get the double play, but hey,

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<v Speaker 5>you stop that double exactly.

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<v Speaker 9>All good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get top frustrated to fifty eight on a Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Just tell them about how computers will tell me where

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<v Speaker 1>to stand on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, talk to Ata, baby,