Speaker 1: Jaguars are back in the building getting ready for Week
Speaker 1: ten against the forty nine ers. You guys, what are
Speaker 1: your biggest concerns for Sunday.
Speaker 2: They got to help me.
Speaker 3: Anton Harrison, He's gonna see who I think is the
Speaker 3: best pass rusher in the league. Nick Bosa all day long.
Speaker 2: Christ McCaffrey and Devis Andel.
Speaker 1: Welcomeing to Jack's Am on this Wednesday. Kennannie Stevens, Brian Sexton,
Speaker 1: John Oser. We're getting ready to kind of deep dive
Speaker 1: into the forty nine ers because we've had the week
Speaker 1: off where we're fresh now, so we're ready to get
Speaker 1: talking about things. And you mentioned a couple of the
Speaker 1: big names on this team. There are stars all over
Speaker 1: the board.
Speaker 3: On this team. You know, this defensive line already had
Speaker 3: two hundred and two million guaranteed dollars dedicated to it.
Speaker 3: Nick Bosa, Javon Hargrave, through they grabbed in free agency
Speaker 3: last year from Philadelphia and Eric Armstead who was divorced
Speaker 3: Buckner's running made at Oregon. And then they added Chase Young,
Speaker 3: who is a very productive pass rusher at least this
Speaker 3: year when he's been healthy. Holy Cole, I mean, you
Speaker 3: got to protect the quarterback this week. You got to
Speaker 3: give him enough time to be able to turn and
Speaker 3: hit his hot read because they never stopped coming.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Forts pass rush has not been what
Speaker 4: they expected. It's why they added Chase Young. It's been
Speaker 4: good at the spots, but sort of like the Jags,
Speaker 4: they get pressure but haven't gotten a whole lot of sacks.
Speaker 4: You know, Chris McCaffrey and Davis Samuel and that offense
Speaker 4: went is or George Kettle either one. Yes, they are
Speaker 4: very good when they're right. They hadn't been right right
Speaker 4: before the bye because of some injuries. There are some
Speaker 4: other issues pressure and Brockbird.
Speaker 1: And some time to get healthy because they're coming off
Speaker 1: of buye as well. So that's always helpful for both
Speaker 1: teams coming into this one. We're gonna see the best
Speaker 1: of the best.
Speaker 2: Hopefully.
Speaker 1: Let's get to our big things. Our first big thing
Speaker 1: this week is going to be plus minus. We know
Speaker 1: the Jaguars are good at takeaways, but they also turned
Speaker 1: the ball over a little bit. They've been able to
Speaker 1: deal with that the last couple of games, turning the
Speaker 1: ball over a lot, but also winning San Francisco forty
Speaker 1: nine ers have not had that luxury. They've been turning
Speaker 1: the ball over and losing Brian. I mean, kind of
Speaker 1: interesting how the two parallels.
Speaker 2: But a lot of that is the quarterback plays.
Speaker 3: I think, so Rock Perdy is a good quarterback when
Speaker 3: he has the lead, and this defense is playing well.
Speaker 3: The last three weeks, they've only averaged seventeen points, and
Speaker 3: they haven't had the ball very much and they haven't
Speaker 3: had a lead, and he struggled. Now he also suffered
Speaker 3: a concussion and has been working his way back from that.
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of different factors going in. The
Speaker 3: Jaguars lead the league kai with eighteen takeaways, but they
Speaker 3: are tied for the second most giveaways with thirteen, and
Speaker 3: in the last four wins they've turned the ball over
Speaker 3: twice in each win. Well, that hasn't really killed them
Speaker 3: against the Colts or the Saints or the Steelers. But again,
Speaker 3: this team with all the talent George Kittle and the
Speaker 3: running back and the receivers, and you forgot Brandon Aouk
Speaker 3: who has really emerged over the last two seasons to
Speaker 3: be a down the field threat. If you give Brock
Speaker 3: Purty extra possessions or better field position, they're not going
Speaker 3: to score seventeen points. They're coming off the bye week,
Speaker 3: he's had his chance to rest. The turnover differential number,
Speaker 3: to me, is going to be the indicator of who
Speaker 3: wins this Bowl game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's key. It's remarkable.
Speaker 4: The Jaguars have forced turnovers in seven of eight games,
Speaker 4: forced multiple turnovers in six of eight, and then you
Speaker 4: look at the offensive stats. I think they've turned the
Speaker 4: ball over in seven of eight games. It's remarkable they
Speaker 4: got through this five game winning streak, not only without losing.
Speaker 4: That's what you do on the winning street, lose very often,
Speaker 4: but without trailing. Considering that they were down in turnover
Speaker 4: margin off the bat in Steelers game, Saints game, then
Speaker 4: at least one other. It's really hard to do that.
Speaker 4: It shows you how good they are, how well the
Speaker 4: defense is playing. But it does cause you to operate
Speaker 4: on edge. And I agree with this stretch coming up,
Speaker 4: especially Sunday. They have to be more protective with the ball.
Speaker 4: It's why Doug has talked about it as a theme
Speaker 4: every time he's talked since the bystart.
Speaker 3: But they've turned the ball over eight times in five wins.
Speaker 3: But if you really look at it, they turn the
Speaker 3: ball over twice in each of the last four games.
Speaker 3: That is unsustainable. John mention, what's coming up. You've got
Speaker 3: a Titans game coming up. You also have the Bengals
Speaker 3: and you have the Redvents coming up. You've got to
Speaker 3: turn that around.
Speaker 1: Can't be handing out extra possessions. I agree with you, guys.
Speaker 1: Our second big thing this week is going to be
Speaker 1: great minds. We've seen some great coaching matchups so far
Speaker 1: in the season, even though we're just eight games in
Speaker 1: at this point. But Kyle Shanahan and Doug Peterson, those
Speaker 1: are two of the best in the league. I'll speak
Speaker 1: speak on that and say that, and for me, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of their Dame adjustments, right. I feel like
Speaker 1: these are coaches sometimes where you watch a game and
Speaker 1: the haves look like two different games because they're able
Speaker 1: to adjust to their opponents so quickly. John, it's it
Speaker 1: must be difficult to go up against them and then
Speaker 1: against each other.
Speaker 4: Well, they're both great, great play callers. Both have been
Speaker 4: in a Super Bowl Doug's one one, and you can
Speaker 4: point to that ability as reasons their teams are good.
Speaker 4: I always believe that they're you know, most coaches, most
Speaker 4: oftense coordinators. If you put thirty two of them in
Speaker 4: a bucket, there's twenty five of them that are sort
Speaker 4: of well. I think these two guys are on the
Speaker 4: top end of and I think they're both really good.
Speaker 3: I think I've said it a couple of times on
Speaker 3: the show. When the Niners are on, I want to
Speaker 3: watch them because I think Kyle Shanahan does such an
Speaker 3: amazing job with his personnel groupings. They're always interesting with
Speaker 3: his motions and movement, and Doug Peterson is every bit
Speaker 3: the coach. So this is a premier matchup for me
Speaker 3: on Sunday. And I give you an example. In the
Speaker 3: game against the Bengals two sundays ago before they're bye week,
Speaker 3: there was a play where he Kyle Shanahan moved both
Speaker 3: George Kittle and Greg Kittle both Yeah, both men, Greg Kettle,
Speaker 3: George Kittle and CMC in the same direction. You just
Speaker 3: watched the whole defense flow. It was never going back,
Speaker 3: it was going back over here to Brandon Ayouka. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's just masterful how he dictates where he wants people
Speaker 3: to be. And there are a few I think offensive
Speaker 3: coordinators who can legitimately dictate play in and play out
Speaker 3: to a defense. There are plenty of them that take
Speaker 3: what a defense gives them. I think Shanahan and Doug
Speaker 3: Peterson are right at the top of the list, with
Speaker 3: Andy Reid. Maybe Reid is a notch above because he's
Speaker 3: obviously the master. But wow, and one more thing. I
Speaker 3: remember in nineteen ninety nine when the great Don Capers
Speaker 3: was the defensive coordinator, asking him why the Broncos, because
Speaker 3: Mike Shanahan, Kyle's father was the coach of the Broncos,
Speaker 3: Why even without John Elway they were still able to
Speaker 3: be so good? He says, doesn't matter when you've got
Speaker 3: a coach that is so efficient with his personnel, groupings
Speaker 3: and motion. He said, no one does it better than Shanahan.
Speaker 3: And here his son is now. And by the way
Speaker 3: that Shanahan tree is sprinkled throughout the league, there's a
Speaker 3: half a dozen eight coaches from an offensive mindset who
Speaker 3: come from the Shanahans, and you see it all over
Speaker 3: the league.
Speaker 1: I know it's a player's league, but with these kind
Speaker 1: of coaches, you got to think they can swing things
Speaker 1: with a couple wins, with the way that they're able
Speaker 1: to coach and make adjustments when they lose players to
Speaker 1: injury as well. I've seen the forty nine ers do
Speaker 1: that time and time again. Our final big thing this
Speaker 1: week is going to be about the coordinators, Mike and Steve.
Speaker 1: That's coming down to, you know, Steve Wilkes, Mike Caldwell.
Speaker 1: The defense is going to be a huge part of
Speaker 1: this game. We talked about the pass rush maybe not
Speaker 1: being quite where you know, some people want to be
Speaker 1: at the team is very happy with it, but people
Speaker 1: are always going to call for an extra pass rusher.
Speaker 1: Corina Ims have kind of been dealing with that a
Speaker 1: little bit as well, And Brian, I know you talked
Speaker 1: about some of the money that's there. It's because they
Speaker 1: expect a lot from their pass rush because they paid
Speaker 1: for it.
Speaker 2: They do.
Speaker 3: They pay for it. But they also have guys like
Speaker 3: Fred Warner, who you know, Jaguars Fins may or may
Speaker 3: not be all that familiar with number fifty four for
Speaker 3: the Niners. He's as good a linebacker as there is
Speaker 3: in the NFL. John, I mean, he wrote from sideline
Speaker 3: to sideline. They can bring him on the blitz though,
Speaker 3: because they're so good upfront, they don't have to. He's
Speaker 3: the guy who can drop into coverage with a wide receiver.
Speaker 3: He is freaking terrific. And on the Jaguars side, they've
Speaker 3: been getting so much from Mike Caldwell. I mean, he
Speaker 3: has had this team playing above the x's and o's
Speaker 3: and they're gonna have to on Sunday. They're going to
Speaker 3: have to If it's gonna boil it down, it would
Speaker 3: be do your job. I believe that Mike Caldwell has
Speaker 3: proven that he puts guys in a position to be
Speaker 3: successful on Sunday. But there's gonna be so much motion,
Speaker 3: it's so much thought that is required. Just do your job,
Speaker 3: do what Mike and his coaches have you lined up
Speaker 3: to do, and that's gonna be your best chance for
Speaker 3: success against the Niners.
Speaker 2: For a couple of thoughts, one, I think if this
Speaker 2: game had.
Speaker 4: Been last year, when this Jaguars team was still learning
Speaker 4: this defense, it'd been a lot of trouble because it
Speaker 4: would have been.
Speaker 2: They would have been thinking too much.
Speaker 4: The motions and the things that the forty nine ers
Speaker 4: do well to get you off balance would have really
Speaker 4: fooled this team. The biggest change has been that things
Speaker 4: like that don't fool this team.
Speaker 2: Right now. It's an interesting I doubt the players talk
Speaker 2: about it very much.
Speaker 4: I know the coaches won't. But there's this perception, because
Speaker 4: of Bosa, because of Chase Young, that forty nine ers
Speaker 4: are a great defense than they are. But I don't
Speaker 4: know that they're the best defense in this game. Because
Speaker 4: the Jaguars have thirteen fourteen guys, maybe not the superstar,
Speaker 4: maybe Josh is a superstar, Josh Allen. Beyond that, not
Speaker 4: a lot of household names. I've got to think that
Speaker 4: there's a lot of motivation for this defense. Not that
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not big into that. Oh, we're playing
Speaker 4: these guys, but this week, this is a chance for
Speaker 4: this defense to show a lot of people what they
Speaker 4: already know they are.
Speaker 2: Should be a good one. Stay with us.
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Speaker 2: And both of these teams.
Speaker 1: Were active in the one a little more than the other,
Speaker 1: I mean addressing concerns on their team for sure. The
Speaker 1: Jaguars adding to the offensive line and forty nine Ers
Speaker 1: adding to their pass rush. They're Chase Young heading from
Speaker 1: Washington over to the forty nine Ers, and he's reuniting
Speaker 1: with his college teammate Nick Bosa. He talked about that
Speaker 1: to the media yesterday.
Speaker 5: Nick Nick is here, you know, always been a big
Speaker 5: brother to me. You've not Ohio State.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: I'm just stepping in here for you know today, got
Speaker 5: in here last week. I'm just a culture on the vibe.
Speaker 5: It's a lot different, you know. I definitely know that
Speaker 5: I'm gonna build with winners.
Speaker 1: John Chase knows he's in the building with winners.
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, I I I think it's Chase. I don't
Speaker 4: know Chase, but I always uh, I was amused a
Speaker 4: few years ago, Brian, when Jalen Ramsey and Unika Gokway
Speaker 4: left and talked about it's great to be out of there.
Speaker 2: I always I always sort of think a.
Speaker 4: Franchise player, Uh, if you are a franchise player, you
Speaker 4: can lift a franchise. Maybe that's the old get off
Speaker 4: my lawn, Brian, But that's just sort of when I
Speaker 4: hear that. Again, not not gonna Chase. I don't know him, uh,
Speaker 4: but I always just kind of wish that players could.
Speaker 2: Raise the franchise were with.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's the nineteen seventies football guy.
Speaker 1: I think there're gonna be something to be said for
Speaker 1: maybe a change of atmosphere. But like when you're immediately
Speaker 1: contributing it to the culture, Like maybe it's a change
Speaker 1: and it's good change for you, that doesn't necessarily mean
Speaker 1: it's a bad culture.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: And I don't know Chase either, do respect there were
Speaker 3: a lot of chaotic moments over the last few years
Speaker 3: with that franchise. Sure, but pass rusher is a premier position.
Speaker 3: Everybody wants more pass rush and here's a guy who
Speaker 3: was a top pick who has worked his way back
Speaker 3: from injury, and I think he has five and a
Speaker 3: half sacks for the Redskins Commanders. That was one of
Speaker 3: the chaotic moments. And they let him go right for
Speaker 3: a third round pick. They have just traded Montese Wet
Speaker 3: for a second and now they let this guy go.
Speaker 3: So teams that want pass rush they trade both their
Speaker 3: pass rushers.
Speaker 2: It makes me question, right, why is this on sales?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Why are you giving this away?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: For the Niners, a third round pick isn't too much
Speaker 3: for a guy. They are also playing with brock Perty's
Speaker 3: rookie quarterback contract, so they've got forty fifty million bucks
Speaker 3: under the cap this year, let alone next year because
Speaker 3: they're not paying a quarterback. So maybe they can make
Speaker 3: it work and make it fit within their soutary structure,
Speaker 3: or maybe they figure just a rental. We're just trying
Speaker 3: to win the Super Bowl this year.
Speaker 4: For the Niners, it's house money if you get four
Speaker 4: sacks out of him for a you know, four or
Speaker 4: five sacks for a third round pick. But yeah, for
Speaker 4: Chase Young, I've got to think there's you know, most
Speaker 4: people follow the league sort of at arm's length, meaning
Speaker 4: now Chase Young, who was the number one pick, now
Speaker 4: he's a.
Speaker 2: Third round guy in people's eyes.
Speaker 4: He'll be motivated to prove he's not a third round
Speaker 4: guy because he's not a third round talent without question.
Speaker 4: So for him now, chance to rebuild, you know, I guess,
Speaker 4: rebuild the image, rebuild the career.
Speaker 3: In this app they should get production from him because,
Speaker 3: as I said off the top, when you watch the tape,
Speaker 3: you just see nick Bosa flashing all over. He is relentless.
Speaker 3: Two years ago here Jawan Taylor man Juwan was living
Speaker 3: in Trevor's lap the whole game trying to keep the
Speaker 3: quarterback upright because Bosha was pushing so hard. When you've
Speaker 3: got that, you've got a slide protection over to help
Speaker 3: Anton Harrison, which means Chay Shung's going to get some
Speaker 3: one on one opportunities, and he's a talented guy. Cam
Speaker 3: Robinson's going to have his hands full on today. They're
Speaker 3: going to get some production from him and they'll get
Speaker 3: a first hand look at what kind of a person
Speaker 3: he is and whether he's a guy they want to
Speaker 3: be part of their culture, and they can afford it. Again,
Speaker 3: they're working with a rookie quarterback contract next year and
Speaker 3: they don't have to worry about paying it now.
Speaker 2: Let's make the mistake when I said third round at
Speaker 2: when he's right, he's really good. He's really good.
Speaker 4: So if they're getting the right version, they have on
Speaker 4: paper the most talented pass rush tandem in the league.
Speaker 3: It's the right circumstances, right, But they only have two
Speaker 3: more sacks than the Jaguars. Too. Were talking about the
Speaker 3: Jaguars and how they haven't gotten that number that they'd
Speaker 3: like to be at. Well, for all the money they've
Speaker 3: spent and all the talent they've got on their defensive line,
Speaker 3: John mentioned earlier, they won't. They have eighteen sacks for
Speaker 3: the season. They have not gotten home. But that, as
Speaker 3: we've seen from the Jaguars, they create enough havoc in
Speaker 3: your backfield that the quarterback, at least Joe Burrow was
Speaker 3: constantly having to make quick decisions in that Bengals game.
Speaker 3: And Burrow is really good at it, so was this guy.
Speaker 3: You've got to give him enough time and the receivers
Speaker 3: have to have their heads turned around and understand I'm
Speaker 3: a hot route. I've got to be ready to catch
Speaker 3: the ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah. One final thought, talking to jet I mean talking
Speaker 2: to forty nine ers.
Speaker 4: Media they don't necessarily think they've gotten enough pressure and
Speaker 4: that there have been times where the quarterbacks had too
Speaker 4: much time to throw. I think the Jaguars, for the
Speaker 4: most part, I haven't gotten that feeling. So it'll be
Speaker 4: interesting to see if Chase Young gives them that element.
Speaker 4: I think that could be a place where if he doesn't,
Speaker 4: Jaguars a third down will be key on some One.
Speaker 3: Thing to keep in mind as that Bossy was going
Speaker 3: for all of camp and then he's just getting up
Speaker 3: to speed. He's just had the bye week, so I
Speaker 3: would expect that they'll come with everything this Sunday and
Speaker 3: he'll be more ready to.
Speaker 1: Rush the passer and Chase making his debut because he
Speaker 1: was there for the bye week as well, So we'll
Speaker 1: see how that goes for them. Our audition at the
Speaker 1: trade deadline was sharing up the offensive line. We heard
Speaker 1: from Doug talking about this earlier this week about what
Speaker 1: he saw on why they added to the offensive line depth.
Speaker 6: You know, anytime that you can add you can add depth,
Speaker 6: you can add value, you can add a talent like
Speaker 6: Ezra to the offensive line really at any position. You know,
Speaker 6: it's something that that Trent and I and the guys
Speaker 6: looked at you know hard, you know, definitely a lot
Speaker 6: of different scenarios out there. You look at you look
Speaker 6: at pass rushers, you know, maybe even defensive backs, and
Speaker 6: you look at o'lignement, and obviously Ezra is somebody that
Speaker 6: can come in and really provide the necessary you know, uh,
Speaker 6: backup guard, very capable, smart, talented, you know, left guard
Speaker 6: and you know, he played some right guard his rookie year.
Speaker 6: He had been been primarily left guard since and just
Speaker 6: a good value for us and and really solidifies an
Speaker 6: offensive line that you know, is already pretty good.
Speaker 1: John Doug Peterson was very emphatic that Walker Little is
Speaker 1: a starter on this team and that Azra Cleveland was
Speaker 1: brought in as a backup wherever he's going to be
Speaker 1: needed on the line. Is this going to be an
Speaker 1: issue where we're getting stockpiled in a certain you know,
Speaker 1: everybody wants to play left tackle situation? Or is this
Speaker 1: going to work out?
Speaker 4: Okay at the end of the day, Well, everybody might
Speaker 4: want to play left tackle, get to play left tackle. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So you know, I'm sure Walker Little, in his heart
Speaker 4: of hearts, would like to play left tackle.
Speaker 2: It's what he is that that's.
Speaker 4: What he's grown up with. But I also think he'll
Speaker 4: be fine at left guard. Look, I think I wasn't
Speaker 4: sure what they would do. I wasn't sure is Ezra
Speaker 4: Cleveland being brought in because they feel like they can
Speaker 4: be a better out run.
Speaker 2: Blocking team on the interior.
Speaker 4: But as Doug said, when they played together, meaning Walker
Speaker 4: Little and Cam Robinson on the left side.
Speaker 2: In Buffalo for that what snaps, it looked very good.
Speaker 4: I think overall, it's what Brian's alluded to, meaning there's
Speaker 4: something about the future here that Ezra Cleveland can be
Speaker 4: a piece moving forward.
Speaker 2: Also, I keep going back. People love to play depth
Speaker 2: chart football. I call it meaning when.
Speaker 4: A trade's made, like they say, well, this guy's gonna
Speaker 4: start here, and start here, and start here. Depth chart
Speaker 4: football often doesn't play out on the real field, meaning
Speaker 4: you have injuries, you have things that happened, particularly injuries. Well,
Speaker 4: last year we saw it. The Jaguars don't make their
Speaker 4: run unless they have seven or eight good offensive lineman.
Speaker 2: Last year, I.
Speaker 4: Think they felt like they needed to get seven or
Speaker 4: eight good offensive lineman that they can trust going down
Speaker 4: the stretch. I feel like that made them a little nervous,
Speaker 4: not feeling like they had that on the interior and
Speaker 4: the offensive line.
Speaker 3: I don't know how it happened, but I saw a
Speaker 3: lot of Minnesota Vikings book early in the season, and
Speaker 3: I remember hearing and reading about Cleveland. So when they
Speaker 3: traded for him, I wasn't surprised because my understanding is
Speaker 3: is he's a pretty good football player. I also know
Speaker 3: that he's on the rest of this year as a contract,
Speaker 3: and then he's a free agent next year. But I
Speaker 3: always saw this as a long term play, right, and
Speaker 3: John just made the case for the short term because
Speaker 3: you need bodies, and they do. Brandon Sherriff's been playing
Speaker 3: with an ankle that has has hindered him, and Tyler
Speaker 3: Shatley hasn't shown good movement and you need another body
Speaker 3: this year. But Trent Balkey, he treats draft picks or
Speaker 3: like their gold to balloons, right. He parts with him
Speaker 3: like their manhole covers. They're heavy and laborious. He doesn't
Speaker 3: want to do it. He understands the value of them.
Speaker 3: So my expectation is is that they'll get him lined
Speaker 3: up for next year with a contract and that he
Speaker 3: will be the starting left guard going forward. Me just
Speaker 3: looking at the salary cap numbers with Cam and Walker
Speaker 3: and understanding Walker is, you know, probably the left tackle
Speaker 3: of the long term future. Here, I would say that
Speaker 3: Cleveland is going to be the starting left guard next year.
Speaker 3: Just a projection on my part, but you know you
Speaker 3: can kind of see where it fits makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'll see depending on Walker Little's status this
Speaker 1: week as well, whether we'll see as we're Cleveland in
Speaker 1: there or not, because Walker's been battling that knee injury.
Speaker 1: So stay with us. We're going to come back and
Speaker 1: go over this or that what we're looking at. For
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Speaker 1: we look and try to compare a couple of things, Brian,
Speaker 1: when are you comparing this week?
Speaker 2: Or when do you this or that? As well?
Speaker 3: Look with the idea that this should be the Sunday
Speaker 3: night game, I'll get pushed back on Shohn from that,
Speaker 3: maybe because one o'clock games are much easier, But they
Speaker 3: should be the Sunday night game. It is a market matchup,
Speaker 3: maybe the market matchup of the weekend for the NFL.
Speaker 3: You know, two teams five and three, six and two
Speaker 3: coming off thereby San Francisco, Trevor Lawrence. You could easily
Speaker 3: move this to Sunday night football. It would not have
Speaker 3: been an issue. However, is this a big statement game
Speaker 3: for the Jaguars or is it just the next game
Speaker 3: on the schedule. It happens to be against the NFC opponent.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this ironically, because I didn't know
Speaker 2: this was do this or that.
Speaker 4: Your first anting is to say it's the next one,
Speaker 4: because the next two after this are actually much more important.
Speaker 2: I mean, you got Tennessee and the Texan's coming up.
Speaker 4: If you lose this one and win those two, you're
Speaker 4: still in great shape in the division, and probably in
Speaker 4: better shape than if you lose this one. I mean,
Speaker 4: then if you this wan I lose one of those.
Speaker 4: But there is something playing at home, playing against a
Speaker 4: really good team. They haven't won one of these with
Speaker 4: this kind of film. Maybe Dallas last year at home
Speaker 4: against a really good team they lost to the Chiefs
Speaker 4: earlier this year.
Speaker 2: Beating a team like.
Speaker 4: That at home and sort of walking off that field
Speaker 4: with your fans showing them what you know you are
Speaker 4: feels big, but it's not tragic if they lose. And
Speaker 4: I'm on both sides of the fence there, but that's
Speaker 4: kind of how I see it.
Speaker 1: I think it would be a big statement, excuse me,
Speaker 1: a big statement game in terms of nationally right, because
Speaker 1: it's the forty nine ers, it's a name, and as
Speaker 1: we know, a lot of people don't follow Jacksonville around
Speaker 1: the league if you're watching it from a national landscape.
Speaker 1: So if you can get a win, and specifically, if
Speaker 1: you can get a performance out of Trevor Lawrence where
Speaker 1: he throws a couple of touchdowns.
Speaker 2: I can do a lot for you.
Speaker 1: Whether I think that's a big deal or not, I
Speaker 1: mean up to you whether you want that national recognition,
Speaker 1: But I think performing well against the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: might get you that.
Speaker 3: I just think you can only have so many statement games, right,
Speaker 3: And they had a statement game against the Chiefs, then
Speaker 3: they had a statement game against the Bills. They've got
Speaker 3: a statement game coming up against the Ravens and the Bengals.
Speaker 3: I just I see this as the next game.
Speaker 2: You're right.
Speaker 3: If they win this game, then it is somewhat of
Speaker 3: a statement. But for them, they've got to just be
Speaker 3: focused on this being the next game.
Speaker 1: I agree with you.
Speaker 4: I went with who's done a more pressure Taylor Caldwell,
Speaker 4: and I had to say to use the word pressure
Speaker 4: there just pressure every week or more stress. They didn't
Speaker 4: say pressure, that's it's stressed. Sort of the same thing.
Speaker 4: I would say that more stress this week, maybe a
Speaker 4: little Mike Caldwell.
Speaker 2: Because of having.
Speaker 4: To deal with McCaffrey and Deebo Samuel and everything that
Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan brings. There's so many looks. Samuel can play
Speaker 4: running back or wide receiver. Christ McCaffer may running back
Speaker 4: all right, said there's so many things they can do
Speaker 4: at the stress level of trying to figure all that out,
Speaker 4: maybe a touch higher for Mike, but the press has
Speaker 4: to worry about that pass rush.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I was gonna go to.
Speaker 3: You know, I went back and watched the last three
Speaker 3: Niners games, and they were all losses. And I know
Speaker 3: that the people in San Francisco don't think they're getting
Speaker 3: much of a pass rush, but I'm telling you that
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks for the three opponents were under pressure almost instantaneously.
Speaker 3: And Eric Armstead, if you're not familiar with him, was
Speaker 3: a teammate of Devorce Buckner from Indianapolis, both in San
Speaker 3: Francisco and in college in Oregon. He's equal to him
Speaker 3: in size, and he's equal to him in forest and
Speaker 3: Buckner was a game wrecker in those two games. So
Speaker 3: you've got a guy in the middle, two guys in
Speaker 3: the middle with hard Grave, now two guys on the outside.
Speaker 3: I say Phil Rauscher is the guy under the most pressure.
Speaker 3: But you know Phil, obviously working in tandem with Press Taylor,
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to score, obviously, and if you can't
Speaker 3: keep the quarterback upright for two seconds then and look,
Speaker 3: no disrespect to the Jaguars offensive line, but this is
Speaker 3: as difficult to match up as I think there is
Speaker 3: in the NFL. They're that good.
Speaker 1: I think for Press Taylor, it's going to be press
Speaker 1: tailor until it's not press tailor anymore, until you can
Speaker 1: get things totally figured out on offense. Mine is a
Speaker 1: little bit more niche, I guess, is what I would say,
Speaker 1: because we've been talking about Travis YTN getting fed the
Speaker 1: ball as much as he has, and we don't know
Speaker 1: if it's going to be consistent throughout the year. So
Speaker 1: my role is kind of like we've seen Diarras Johnson
Speaker 1: and what he's been able to do in very limited bursts.
Speaker 1: But should they try to include him a little bit
Speaker 1: more or should they really rely on Tank, who, as
Speaker 1: we know, has been having some rookie issues.
Speaker 2: Oh great, Ques, we're going well. I think the real
Speaker 2: answer is gonna be none of the above.
Speaker 1: They're just gonna keep Ridan Travis WN is fair, but.
Speaker 4: I think they want to have one of these guys
Speaker 4: share the workload. I think when it comes down to
Speaker 4: you're in the third quarter and you have a four
Speaker 4: point lead and you're third and three, or you have
Speaker 4: a big series you want to go with Darnest, you
Speaker 4: want to go with Tank, and you say, what.
Speaker 2: I really like Travis. It's not really good. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's not a knock on those guys.
Speaker 4: It's just that right now, Travis is you know, when
Speaker 4: you give him the ball, you probably feel better about
Speaker 4: the ball in his hands than anybody else on the
Speaker 4: offense right now outside Trevor Lawrence for making the play
Speaker 4: when you absolutely need it. And in the NFL, guess what,
Speaker 4: you usually need those plays because it's it's a game
Speaker 4: of you know.
Speaker 2: So i'd answer your question. I think they still stick
Speaker 2: with Tank.
Speaker 4: I think they're not as concerned about all these issues
Speaker 4: as the fans are because I think they feel like
Speaker 4: a couple of fumbles. It doesn't feel to me Brian
Speaker 4: like he's being loose with the ball. I don't think
Speaker 4: he's being careless. I think they're a little circumstantial.
Speaker 2: That's how they feel about it.
Speaker 3: Well, people should remember last year when Travis was a
Speaker 3: fumble problem, and I didn't think he was as careful
Speaker 3: with the football, especially not in the red zone in
Speaker 3: that game against the Giants. He had one against the
Speaker 3: Ravens where it was whoa hold on hold that ball came.
Speaker 2: Doesn't feel that way, bro doesn't all right.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is is that Travis felt that way,
Speaker 3: but he worked his way through it, and now there
Speaker 3: isn't anybody that would question that you want the ball
Speaker 3: in his hands. I'm not worried about Tank. I think
Speaker 3: they'll they'll figure that one out. I'm gonna aswer a
Speaker 3: question by saying this. I think Tank is the guy
Speaker 3: that you want to get going because I think you
Speaker 3: want to use Travis because of his unique skill set.
Speaker 3: You can line him up in the slot, you can
Speaker 3: line him up wide. We saw the touchdown in Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: and what that did. I think if Tank is a
Speaker 3: guy who could become more of a feature back that
Speaker 3: you can put in the backfield, it will allow Press
Speaker 3: to be able to move Travis all over the place
Speaker 3: and even take even more advantage of his prodigious talent.
Speaker 4: I think Tank's in a little bit of a tough
Speaker 4: spot and it'll take a while to get to this point,
Speaker 4: But think about Travis this running game right now, they
Speaker 4: have a lot of short runs and a lot of
Speaker 4: Travis's effectiveness has been Okay, he gets twenty two to
Speaker 4: twenty three carries, four or five of them are huge plays,
Speaker 4: the other ones starting to get going. Well, Tank's only
Speaker 4: getting three or four or five carries, so you don't
Speaker 4: have as many opportunities.
Speaker 2: Tank has a lot of short runs.
Speaker 4: He hasn't had a chance to get to the long
Speaker 4: ones the way Travis has. So I think that if
Speaker 4: something would happen to Travis, he wasn't able to play.
Speaker 4: Give Tank a whole game, and I think it's at
Speaker 4: some point you're gonna see a little bit of a
Speaker 4: different runner than you've already seen.
Speaker 1: I think we talked a lot about the coaching staff
Speaker 1: having confidence in him too, which is great to see.
Speaker 1: But when you're only getting a couple carries and you're
Speaker 1: having issues like that, it's hard to keep your own
Speaker 1: confidence in yourself, right, So that's a mental game you
Speaker 1: probably have to play with that and the roles that
Speaker 1: they're doing with the running backs as well. All right,
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Speaker 1: So we're back in the groove today at jag Zam.
Speaker 1: Things are gonna be normal here in the Miller Electric Center,
Speaker 1: talking to Doug Terbor. Lawrence is gonna speak to us,
Speaker 1: and it's the first time we talked to them since
Speaker 1: before the bye week, so kind of get back on
Speaker 1: track with everything. I'm looking forward to kind of seeing
Speaker 1: where everybody's at with the injury process because there's a
Speaker 1: bunch of names out there that we missed in that
Speaker 1: last game against Pittsburgh that are hopefully to be available
Speaker 1: in this one. What are you guys kind of looking
Speaker 1: forward to this week or looking to try to figure out.
Speaker 2: The same thing.
Speaker 4: I expect him to be mostly healthy on Sunday, with
Speaker 4: Zay Jones being the big question mark, I'd be kind
Speaker 4: of surprised if he plays. Just listen to the tone
Speaker 4: of Doug on Monday. But I hope I'm wrong, right,
Speaker 4: I hope you are too. I'm going to talk to Nickolts,
Speaker 4: the passing game coordinator who replaced.
Speaker 2: Bob Cooter, thea you're looking for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the names today. Anyway, He's a guy that
Speaker 3: I haven't really spoken to yet, and the passing game
Speaker 3: is obviously going to be a big part of Sunday
Speaker 3: and protecting quarterbacks. So looking forward to getting to know
Speaker 3: him a little bit.
Speaker 1: Perfect. All right, we'll recap all you guys on everything
Speaker 1: tomorrow morning on Jagsam. We'll see then,