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Speaker 2: They got to help me.

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Speaker 3: Anton Harrison, He's gonna see who I think is the

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Speaker 3: best pass rusher in the league. Nick Bosa all day long.

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Speaker 2: Christ McCaffrey and Devis Andel.

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Speaker 1: Welcomeing to Jack's Am on this Wednesday. Kennannie Stevens, Brian Sexton,

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Speaker 1: John Oser. We're getting ready to kind of deep dive

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Speaker 1: talking about things. And you mentioned a couple of the

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Speaker 3: On this team. You know, this defensive line already had

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Speaker 3: two hundred and two million guaranteed dollars dedicated to it.

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Speaker 3: Nick Bosa, Javon Hargrave, through they grabbed in free agency

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Forts pass rush has not been what

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Speaker 4: You know, Chris McCaffrey and Davis Samuel and that offense

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Speaker 4: went is or George Kettle either one. Yes, they are

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Speaker 4: very good when they're right. They hadn't been right right

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Speaker 1: And some time to get healthy because they're coming off

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Speaker 2: But a lot of that is the quarterback plays.

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Speaker 3: I think, so Rock Perdy is a good quarterback when

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Speaker 3: The last three weeks, they've only averaged seventeen points, and

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of different factors going in. The

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's key. It's remarkable.

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Speaker 4: The Jaguars have forced turnovers in seven of eight games,

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Speaker 1: Can't be handing out extra possessions. I agree with you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I know it's a player's league, but with these kind

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Speaker 3: They pay for it. But they also have guys like

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Speaker 2: For a couple of thoughts, one, I think if this

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Speaker 4: Been last year, when this Jaguars team was still learning

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Speaker 2: They would have been thinking too much.

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Speaker 4: The motions and the things that the forty nine ers

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Speaker 2: Right now. It's an interesting I doubt the players talk

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Speaker 2: Should be a good one. Stay with us.

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Speaker 1: by Jet Home Loans in the Hyundai studios.

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Speaker 2: And both of these teams.

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Speaker 1: Were active in the one a little more than the other,

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Speaker 1: I mean addressing concerns on their team for sure. The

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Speaker 5: Nick Nick is here, you know, always been a big

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: I'm just stepping in here for you know today, got

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Speaker 5: It's a lot different, you know. I definitely know that

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Speaker 1: John Chase knows he's in the building with winners.

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Speaker 4: Now, yeah, I I I think it's Chase. I don't

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Speaker 2: I always I always sort of think a.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's the nineteen seventies football guy.

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Speaker 1: I think there're gonna be something to be said for

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Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know Chase either, do respect there were

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Speaker 3: Everybody wants more pass rush and here's a guy who

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Speaker 2: It makes me question, right, why is this on sales?

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Speaker 3: For the Niners, a third round pick isn't too much

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Speaker 4: For the Niners, it's house money if you get four

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Speaker 4: So if they're getting the right version, they have on

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Speaker 3: It's the right circumstances, right, But they only have two

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Speaker 2: Also, I keep going back. People love to play depth

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Speaker 1: So stay with us. We're going to come back and

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Speaker 1: of the Jaguars who want to check that out. And

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Speaker 1: we look and try to compare a couple of things, Brian,

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Speaker 1: when are you comparing this week?

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Speaker 2: Or when do you this or that? As well?

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Speaker 3: Look with the idea that this should be the Sunday

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Speaker 3: night game, I'll get pushed back on Shohn from that,

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Speaker 3: maybe because one o'clock games are much easier, But they

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Speaker 3: should be the Sunday night game. It is a market matchup,

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Speaker 3: maybe the market matchup of the weekend for the NFL.

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Speaker 3: You know, two teams five and three, six and two

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Speaker 3: coming off thereby San Francisco, Trevor Lawrence. You could easily

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Speaker 3: move this to Sunday night football. It would not have

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Speaker 3: been an issue. However, is this a big statement game

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Speaker 3: for the Jaguars or is it just the next game

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Speaker 3: on the schedule. It happens to be against the NFC opponent.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about this ironically, because I didn't know

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Speaker 2: this was do this or that.

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Speaker 4: Your first anting is to say it's the next one,

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Speaker 4: because the next two after this are actually much more important.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you got Tennessee and the Texan's coming up.

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Speaker 4: If you lose this one and win those two, you're

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Speaker 4: still in great shape in the division, and probably in

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Speaker 4: better shape than if you lose this one. I mean,

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Speaker 4: then if you this wan I lose one of those.

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Speaker 4: But there is something playing at home, playing against a

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Speaker 4: really good team. They haven't won one of these with

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Speaker 4: this kind of film. Maybe Dallas last year at home

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Speaker 4: against a really good team they lost to the Chiefs

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Speaker 4: earlier this year.

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Speaker 2: Beating a team like.

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Speaker 4: That at home and sort of walking off that field

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Speaker 4: with your fans showing them what you know you are

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Speaker 4: feels big, but it's not tragic if they lose. And

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Speaker 4: I'm on both sides of the fence there, but that's

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Speaker 4: kind of how I see it.

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Speaker 1: I think it would be a big statement, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: a big statement game in terms of nationally right, because

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Speaker 1: it's the forty nine ers, it's a name, and as

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Speaker 1: we know, a lot of people don't follow Jacksonville around

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Speaker 1: the league if you're watching it from a national landscape.

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Speaker 1: So if you can get a win, and specifically, if

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Speaker 1: you can get a performance out of Trevor Lawrence where

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Speaker 1: he throws a couple of touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: I can do a lot for you.

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Speaker 1: Whether I think that's a big deal or not, I

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Speaker 1: mean up to you whether you want that national recognition,

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Speaker 1: But I think performing well against the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: might get you that.

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Speaker 3: I just think you can only have so many statement games, right,

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Speaker 3: And they had a statement game against the Chiefs, then

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Speaker 3: they had a statement game against the Bills. They've got

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Speaker 3: a statement game coming up against the Ravens and the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: I just I see this as the next game.

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Speaker 2: You're right.

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Speaker 3: If they win this game, then it is somewhat of

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Speaker 3: a statement. But for them, they've got to just be

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Speaker 3: focused on this being the next game.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: I went with who's done a more pressure Taylor Caldwell,

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Speaker 4: and I had to say to use the word pressure

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Speaker 4: there just pressure every week or more stress. They didn't

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Speaker 4: say pressure, that's it's stressed. Sort of the same thing.

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Speaker 4: I would say that more stress this week, maybe a

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Speaker 4: little Mike Caldwell.

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Speaker 2: Because of having.

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Speaker 4: To deal with McCaffrey and Deebo Samuel and everything that

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Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan brings. There's so many looks. Samuel can play

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Speaker 4: running back or wide receiver. Christ McCaffer may running back

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Speaker 4: all right, said there's so many things they can do

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Speaker 4: at the stress level of trying to figure all that out,

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Speaker 4: maybe a touch higher for Mike, but the press has

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Speaker 4: to worry about that pass rush.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what I was gonna go to.

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Speaker 3: You know, I went back and watched the last three

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Speaker 3: Niners games, and they were all losses. And I know

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Speaker 3: that the people in San Francisco don't think they're getting

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Speaker 3: much of a pass rush, but I'm telling you that

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Speaker 3: the quarterbacks for the three opponents were under pressure almost instantaneously.

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Speaker 3: And Eric Armstead, if you're not familiar with him, was

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Speaker 3: a teammate of Devorce Buckner from Indianapolis, both in San

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Speaker 3: Francisco and in college in Oregon. He's equal to him

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Speaker 3: in size, and he's equal to him in forest and

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Speaker 3: Buckner was a game wrecker in those two games. So

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Speaker 3: you've got a guy in the middle, two guys in

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Speaker 3: the middle with hard Grave, now two guys on the outside.

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Speaker 3: I say Phil Rauscher is the guy under the most pressure.

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Speaker 3: But you know Phil, obviously working in tandem with Press Taylor,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna have to score, obviously, and if you can't

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Speaker 3: keep the quarterback upright for two seconds then and look,

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Speaker 3: no disrespect to the Jaguars offensive line, but this is

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Speaker 3: as difficult to match up as I think there is

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Speaker 3: in the NFL. They're that good.

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Speaker 1: I think for Press Taylor, it's going to be press

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Speaker 1: tailor until it's not press tailor anymore, until you can

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Speaker 1: get things totally figured out on offense. Mine is a

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Speaker 1: little bit more niche, I guess, is what I would say,

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Speaker 1: because we've been talking about Travis YTN getting fed the

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Speaker 1: ball as much as he has, and we don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's going to be consistent throughout the year. So

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Speaker 1: my role is kind of like we've seen Diarras Johnson

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Speaker 1: and what he's been able to do in very limited bursts.

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Speaker 1: But should they try to include him a little bit

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Speaker 1: more or should they really rely on Tank, who, as

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Speaker 1: we know, has been having some rookie issues.

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Speaker 2: Oh great, Ques, we're going well. I think the real

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Speaker 2: answer is gonna be none of the above.

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Speaker 1: They're just gonna keep Ridan Travis WN is fair, but.

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Speaker 4: I think they want to have one of these guys

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Speaker 4: share the workload. I think when it comes down to

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Speaker 4: you're in the third quarter and you have a four

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Speaker 4: point lead and you're third and three, or you have

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Speaker 4: a big series you want to go with Darnest, you

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Speaker 4: want to go with Tank, and you say, what.

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Speaker 2: I really like Travis. It's not really good. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's not a knock on those guys.

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Speaker 4: It's just that right now, Travis is you know, when

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Speaker 4: you give him the ball, you probably feel better about

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Speaker 4: the ball in his hands than anybody else on the

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Speaker 4: offense right now outside Trevor Lawrence for making the play

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Speaker 4: when you absolutely need it. And in the NFL, guess what,

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Speaker 4: you usually need those plays because it's it's a game

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Speaker 4: of you know.

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Speaker 2: So i'd answer your question. I think they still stick

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Speaker 2: with Tank.

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Speaker 4: I think they're not as concerned about all these issues

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Speaker 4: as the fans are because I think they feel like

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Speaker 4: a couple of fumbles. It doesn't feel to me Brian

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Speaker 4: like he's being loose with the ball. I don't think

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Speaker 4: he's being careless. I think they're a little circumstantial.

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Speaker 2: That's how they feel about it.

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Speaker 3: Well, people should remember last year when Travis was a

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Speaker 3: fumble problem, and I didn't think he was as careful

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Speaker 3: with the football, especially not in the red zone in

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Speaker 3: that game against the Giants. He had one against the

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Speaker 3: Ravens where it was whoa hold on hold that ball came.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't feel that way, bro doesn't all right.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying is is that Travis felt that way,

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Speaker 3: but he worked his way through it, and now there

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Speaker 3: isn't anybody that would question that you want the ball

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Speaker 3: in his hands. I'm not worried about Tank. I think

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Speaker 3: they'll they'll figure that one out. I'm gonna aswer a

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Speaker 3: question by saying this. I think Tank is the guy

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Speaker 3: that you want to get going because I think you

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Speaker 3: want to use Travis because of his unique skill set.

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Speaker 3: You can line him up in the slot, you can

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Speaker 3: line him up wide. We saw the touchdown in Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: and what that did. I think if Tank is a

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Speaker 3: guy who could become more of a feature back that

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Speaker 3: you can put in the backfield, it will allow Press

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Speaker 3: to be able to move Travis all over the place

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Speaker 3: and even take even more advantage of his prodigious talent.

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Speaker 4: I think Tank's in a little bit of a tough

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Speaker 4: spot and it'll take a while to get to this point,

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Speaker 4: But think about Travis this running game right now, they

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Speaker 4: have a lot of short runs and a lot of

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Speaker 4: Travis's effectiveness has been Okay, he gets twenty two to

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Speaker 4: twenty three carries, four or five of them are huge plays,

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Speaker 4: the other ones starting to get going. Well, Tank's only

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Speaker 4: getting three or four or five carries, so you don't

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Speaker 4: have as many opportunities.

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Speaker 2: Tank has a lot of short runs.

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Speaker 4: He hasn't had a chance to get to the long

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Speaker 4: ones the way Travis has. So I think that if

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Speaker 4: something would happen to Travis, he wasn't able to play.

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Speaker 4: Give Tank a whole game, and I think it's at

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Speaker 4: some point you're gonna see a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: different runner than you've already seen.

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Speaker 1: I think we talked a lot about the coaching staff

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Speaker 1: having confidence in him too, which is great to see.

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Speaker 1: But when you're only getting a couple carries and you're

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Speaker 1: having issues like that, it's hard to keep your own

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Speaker 1: confidence in yourself, right, So that's a mental game you

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Speaker 1: probably have to play with that and the roles that

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Speaker 1: they're doing with the running backs as well. All right,

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Speaker 1: Things are gonna be normal here in the Miller Electric Center,

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Speaker 1: talking to Doug Terbor. Lawrence is gonna speak to us,

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Speaker 1: and it's the first time we talked to them since

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Speaker 1: before the bye week, so kind of get back on

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Speaker 1: track with everything. I'm looking forward to kind of seeing

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Speaker 1: where everybody's at with the injury process because there's a

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Speaker 1: bunch of names out there that we missed in that

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Speaker 1: last game against Pittsburgh that are hopefully to be available

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Speaker 1: in this one. What are you guys kind of looking

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Speaker 1: forward to this week or looking to try to figure out.

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Speaker 2: The same thing.

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Speaker 4: I expect him to be mostly healthy on Sunday, with

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Speaker 4: Zay Jones being the big question mark, I'd be kind

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Speaker 4: of surprised if he plays. Just listen to the tone

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Speaker 4: of Doug on Monday. But I hope I'm wrong, right,

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Speaker 4: I hope you are too. I'm going to talk to Nickolts,

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Speaker 4: the passing game coordinator who replaced.

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Speaker 2: Bob Cooter, thea you're looking for.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the names today. Anyway, He's a guy that

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Speaker 3: I haven't really spoken to yet, and the passing game

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Speaker 3: is obviously going to be a big part of Sunday

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Speaker 3: and protecting quarterbacks. So looking forward to getting to know

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Speaker 3: him a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Perfect. All right, we'll recap all you guys on everything

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Speaker 1: tomorrow morning on Jagsam. We'll see then,