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Speaker 2: If you like what we're all about, it just means

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Speaker 3: All right, good morning, Well on the counterpoints, how you

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Speaker 3: guys doing. How you doing, Emily, I'm doing great.

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Speaker 4: We unfortunately can't get a response from the audience right

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Speaker 4: now as to how they're doing. But I've also been

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Speaker 4: doing whys and they're doing well, unless, of course, they

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Speaker 3: And they also don't hold back on their opinions, and

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Speaker 3: they have multiple different ways to deliver them. That's true,

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Speaker 3: just not directly through the camera.

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Speaker 4: Yes, a multitude of avenues to let us know how

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Speaker 4: you're doing. But in all seriousness, we're going to start

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Speaker 4: with the Hurricane Milton, following up on Hurricane Helen. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: Tampa is right in the bullseye of that storm, which

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Speaker 4: could have all kinds of implications for people's lives, for

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Speaker 4: supply chains, for the economy. So we're going to start

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Speaker 4: with that story, Ryan, and we're going to go and

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Speaker 4: move on to a much more fun topic, which is

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Speaker 4: Kamala Harris's surprise media tour.

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Speaker 3: I don't well, both of us are sort of Our

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Speaker 3: staff was browbeaten into getting her in front of the press,

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Speaker 3: the media tour was a mistake. We'll play some of that.

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Speaker 4: Not a mistake from our perspective, though, because you really

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Speaker 4: do get just a great glimpse into, yeah, the mind

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Speaker 4: of Kamala Harris. Donald Trump was on Ben Shapiro's somebody.

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Speaker 3: Else who should not do media appearances.

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Speaker 4: It's a bench Shapier's podcast yesterday talking about Israel policy. Ryan,

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Speaker 4: you guys over at drop site got a fantastic scoop.

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Speaker 4: Tell us a little bit about what people going to

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Speaker 4: tease it a little.

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Speaker 3: If we were the first interview ever with the survivors

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Speaker 3: just attacked an isis k operative and within moments learned

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Speaker 3: that actually they had attacked an Afghan who was working

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Speaker 3: so the survivors of that drone strike are actually now

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Speaker 3: in Kansas City, and they gave their first interview to

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Speaker 3: DROP site and so we'll be playing that later today.

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Speaker 4: Fantastic, And we're actually going to discuss as well, this

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Speaker 4: effort by seventeen porn actors to put some money into

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Speaker 4: a ForWord written by Kevin Roberts talking about how he

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Speaker 4: would like to see port and regulated, so we'll get

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Speaker 3: We're going to try to do the entire segment without

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Speaker 3: any double entenders, right.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's not worth even trying. It'll be

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Speaker 5: a good one, yeah, not worth it. And we do

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Speaker 5: have a Friday show this week.

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Speaker 3: We do. We're going to have Jeremy Skahill, my co

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Speaker 3: founder of DROPS. I knew he was going to be

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it would be super interesting. I'm really excited about that.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's start with Let's start in Florida, where

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Speaker 4: Hurricane Milton is expected to hit tonight. It is expected

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Speaker 4: SOT officials are telling residents that they need to evacuate.

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Speaker 6: It's the same message we're hearing for people from leaders

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Speaker 6: They were able to do some water rescues and helene.

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Speaker 6: he's made that very clear. It's that same message we're

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Speaker 4: All right, let's actually roll also this flood simulation to

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Speaker 4: the If you're watching this, you can just get a

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Speaker 7: I can use this simulation to show you what it

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Speaker 5: Vehicles get carried away.

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Speaker 7: Structure starts to fail.

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Speaker 5: Anything could be in this water, sharp.

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Speaker 7: Glass, debris, chemicals as well. The scary part is some

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Speaker 5: And look what it does at this level.

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Speaker 7: The first floors of structures are completely flooded and there

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Speaker 7: water rises this high. We want everyone to know their evacuations,

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Speaker 4: That visual ryan is stunning, and we can play this

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Speaker 3: This is a three Is this from the NASA, dudes.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's just incredible that visual.

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Speaker 4: I think also Ryan of the meteorologists that we just rolled,

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Speaker 8: Happening on the ground, have been ordered for your area.

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Speaker 4: It's so obviously the government has no easy task ahead

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Speaker 4: of them asking people to get out, because well, I'm

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Speaker 5: The means to get out. It's really not that easy

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and natural disasters are a way of reminding us

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's take a listen to one man who

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Speaker 9: That's the whole thing.

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Speaker 5: Can we please get you into a hotel? No, everybody's

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Speaker 5: So it is the true run to the point that

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Speaker 3: I thought that the mayor's line was pretty good, where

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Speaker 3: usual kind of rhetoric we hear from from politicians. Now,

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. But you know, one hundred and

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Speaker 4: Let's put a six on the screen. This is I thought,

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Speaker 4: a really helpful take from our friend Matthew Stoler who

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Speaker 4: wrote on his substack, big what happens if a hurricane

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Speaker 4: smashes Tampa. It was just a really important, I think

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Speaker 4: glimpse at how vulnerable you were just making this point, right,

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Speaker 5: Economy is the supply chain is.

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Speaker 4: It's a real thing, right, And Matt's asking, did we

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Speaker 4: learn any of the lessons of COVID about the fragility

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Speaker 4: of the supply chains? They are all kinds of important

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Speaker 4: industries like Tampa is a very very important part, and

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Speaker 4: it seems as though we just saw this with the courts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in North Carolina completely upended the semiconductor supply chain

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Speaker 5: Obviously, she went on Call Her Daddy.

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Speaker 4: No, But she actually had one of the most parties

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Speaker 5: This is Molly ball reacting. We can roll this clip.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised, frankly that she doesn't have more to say

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Speaker 5: Frankly, yes, she is not very nimble on her feet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So what could she say? The things that people

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Speaker 5: It's you know, she can just stick with the answer.

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Speaker 3: She said, I'm gonna fire Lena Khan.

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Speaker 4: She'd be like I talked to Mark Cuban way more

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Speaker 9: What I am proposing is that basically what we will

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Speaker 4: Similar, although it's such a I mean, any conversations that

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Speaker 4: point on that would be that I think we're increasingly

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Speaker 4: waking up to the horrors of those facilities and we'll

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Speaker 4: look back on it, like fifty years from now as

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Speaker 4: a real cruel experiment that we went along with for

444
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Speaker 4: way too long.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. My mother worked in a nursing home the whole

446
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 3: time I was growing up. Yeah, miserable plant I I

447
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Speaker 3: would have walked there after school and sitting there and

448
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Speaker 3: just hanging out there. Absolutely miserable places. Wonderful people at

449
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Speaker 3: the nursing home. Yeah, until she was off, probably learned

450
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Speaker 3: a lot. Yeah, yeah, play some dominoes. Well, she was.

451
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: She did the she was the activity cordnerator, so she

452
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Speaker 3: was one doing the bingo and the arts and crafts and.

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Speaker 12: So do some of that.

454
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Speaker 4: So Howard Stern interviewed Kamala Harris yesterday as well. So

455
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Speaker 4: if you're going through kind of the checklist here, she's

456
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 4: sort of mirroring the podcast playbook that Donald Trump rolled

457
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Speaker 4: out starting a couple of months ago, which is interesting

458
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 4: and you kind of do have to do it. That's

459
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Speaker 4: one of the things Trump said to a Lex Friedman

460
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Speaker 4: he seemed that he'd maybe learned that from his experience

461
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 4: with Elon Muskin Spaces and maybe a little bit of

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Speaker 4: Baron's touch in there as well.

463
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Speaker 5: It's just it. It's true, like this is where the

464
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Speaker 5: audiences are.

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Speaker 4: She did a Colinghurston a basketball podcast last week that

466
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 4: didn't get a ton of attention, but here she is

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Speaker 4: on Howard Stern. Easiest decision in the world would be

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Speaker 4: for her campaign to do Howard Stern because he has

469
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 4: become an absolute shill that might as well get paid

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Speaker 4: by the DNC.

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Speaker 5: Here's how that went.

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Speaker 13: I think that's some of the most important work that

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Speaker 13: anyone can do, which is to require that we have

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Speaker 13: a society that does not allow, in particular for violence

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Speaker 13: and that kind of behavior to go without consequence, serious consequence.

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Speaker 10: It's really weird too, because to me, you're the law

477
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Speaker 10: and order candidate, and yet they try to paint you

478
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Speaker 10: like here's some leftist I don't know who wants to

479
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 10: have people running through the streets committing crimes. You were

480
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Speaker 10: a prosecutor. I have put a lot of people in jail.

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Speaker 13: I have personally prosecuted everything from you know, child said

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Speaker 13: actual assault to homicide.

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Speaker 5: I have put a lot of people in jail.

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Speaker 4: So true, But also she like, I like how Howard

485
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 4: Stern is they try to paint you as being soft

486
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Speaker 4: on She was telling people that contribute to the twenty

487
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Speaker 4: twenty bail fund for Minneapolis protesters, which you and I

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Speaker 4: will disagree on.

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Speaker 3: But she did do there you go believing that she

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Speaker 3: believed that.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, but like he's saying, they try to paint

492
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Speaker 5: you this way, it's like she did that.

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Speaker 3: She did do that.

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Speaker 5: That was her I was like, she posted a tweeter.

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Speaker 3: Did she do it if she didn't even mean it.

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Speaker 4: That's a great question that goes a little deeper than

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00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 4: we're prepared to address today. So yeah, I mean, Howard

498
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 4: Stern is kind of open about being a shelt this way,

499
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Speaker 4: He's not like ashamed of it. But he really really

500
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 4: laid into her on that one, just really gave it

501
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 4: the business. Yes, okay, So speaking of she also went

502
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 4: on Colbert by the way and addressed kind of the

503
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 4: same question as the view. He asked, basically, what in

504
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 4: what ways will you be different than Joe Biden. She said, again,

505
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Speaker 4: I'm not Joe Biden, and I love the American people,

506
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 4: and to paraphrase, Mollyball was not very nimble on her feet.

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00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 5: We watched that before we started taping. It was cringe.

508
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: So she gave the same answer twice to the question

509
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Speaker 3: of how would you be different from Joe Biden, which is, well,

510
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 3: I'm not Joe Biden, which either she came up with

511
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 3: that on her own or they actually did prep for

512
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Speaker 3: this question. You would assume that this question, it's the

513
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Speaker 3: number one question that voters are asking. It's you know,

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Speaker 3: the consultants are saying, this is a change election. How

515
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 3: do you show that you're the change candidate? And that

516
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 3: seems to be what they've come up with so far.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I get that it's difficult because you're the

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Speaker 3: vice president, and so then the obvious follow up is

519
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 3: why didn't you do it? And the obvious answer is

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00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,479
Speaker 3: while the vice president doesn't do anything and we all

521
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 3: know that. But that's not a very you know, self

522
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Speaker 3: satisfying answer, pointing to your own impotence.

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Speaker 4: While we're on the subject, I don't begrudge either Kamala

524
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 4: Harris or Donald Trump for doing fairly friendly podcast interviews.

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Speaker 5: And I don't begrudge.

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00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna say, I don't begrudge Howard Stern, who

527
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 4: is now an open partisan Democrat, for doing those interviews

528
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 4: and doing it from his honest perspective. Same thing with

529
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 4: Alex Cooper or Ben Shapiro talking to Trump, whoever it is.

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00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 4: I mean, you're not going to suddenly cosplay as Walter Cronkite.

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Speaker 4: It'd just be weird, wouldn't make sense. You're probably not

532
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 4: equipped to do it if you're Alex Cooper anyway. But

533
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 4: to see Howard Stern, Howard Stern just kind of marvel

534
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 4: at the toughness of this, or the fake toughness of this,

535
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 4: like manufactured robot girl Boss cop. It is just against

536
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 4: everything that Howard Stern ever stood for, and that may

537
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Speaker 4: have been and I'm not saying Howard Stern stood for

538
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 4: anything good, but man, was that a great glimpse into

539
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 4: the transition.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 4: I've never been a big Howard Stern fan, to be honest,

542
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 4: but it does show just the dramatic change that he's

543
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 4: taken in his life.

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00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he wrote a memoir about that like a

545
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 3: year ago or.

546
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 5: So, say five years ago?

547
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: Was it that long ago?

548
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 12: While ago?

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00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically I think he just feels extremely guilty, Yes,

550
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 3: for all of the raunchy stuff he did for twenty.

551
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 5: Years, the sexism in particular thing.

552
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so he's now atoning for that for the

553
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 3: rest of his life.

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Speaker 5: And you know, it's just not funny. It's just not funny.

555
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 5: Let's move on to something that is, I guess funny.

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00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 4: In some ways, people caught CBS because usually when you

557
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 4: do a sit down interview with sixty minutes or whatever,

558
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 4: you'll tape maybe an hour and they truncate it to

559
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 4: thirty minutes something like that. So stuff always gets left

560
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 4: in the cutting room floor. The drop of the editors

561
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 4: is to make sure what is cut up is true

562
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 4: to what was actually said. But in this case, when

563
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 4: you look at the full foot from CBS, they released

564
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 4: that often on their six minutes YouTube, which is great,

565
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 4: what they actually aired on sixty minutes, it seems like

566
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 4: was not exactly true to the answer here on Netanyahu.

567
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 5: So let's take a listen.

568
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 3: But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyah who is not listening.

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Speaker 9: Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted

570
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Speaker 9: in a number of movements in that region by Israel

571
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Speaker 9: that were very much prompted by or a result of

572
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Speaker 9: many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen

573
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 9: in the region.

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Speaker 5: But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyah, who is not listening.

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Speaker 9: We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for

576
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 9: the United States to be clear about where we stand

577
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 9: on the need for.

578
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 5: This war to end.

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Speaker 4: So what you heard first there is how Kamalhirst actually

580
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 4: answered the question without editing, And what you heard afterwards

581
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 4: was how CBS edited the question so Ryan, they made

582
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 4: it and a lot smoother, a lot more vigorous, cleaned

583
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 4: up some of her like just uncomfortable pauses and hesitancy.

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Speaker 5: What did you make of the edit there?

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00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's like, oh, you ordered this without the

586
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 3: word salad our fault and they just they just dump

587
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 3: it in the trash and just get to the middle

588
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 3: of the answer. Yeah. I can sympathize with the editors

589
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 3: who are like, Okay, we need we need to clip here.

590
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 3: And none of this made sense. Now if you go

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00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: back and re listen to it. What she's trying to say,

592
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Speaker 3: and that first answer is well, we actually have put

593
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Speaker 3: pressure on him, and some of the things that have

594
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 3: happened have been a result of that pressure. But it's

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Speaker 3: it's a deeply unsatisfying answer because you're like, well, what

596
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 3: pressure and what things like this didn't actually tell us anything.

597
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: And then eventually she gets to the thing where she

598
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: said there in print journalism, it's funny, well, we'll have

599
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 3: a three hundred word answer from somebody and we will

600
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: grab the two sentences that make their point that we need,

601
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 3: and sometimes then we'll paraphrase in and out. But when

602
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: you're doing a televised interview with a potential president of

603
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: the United States, you got to be a little bit

604
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: more kind of sacred with the words, because the voters

605
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 3: want to know how this person's mind works more than

606
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: they want just a crisp, clean answer to this question, which,

607
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 3: if you notice, because they cut it the way they did,

608
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 3: the answer doesn't really even flow from the question. It's like,

609
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 3: what what have you done? Why isn't he listening? And

610
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 3: she just in the edited answer, just says, well, we're

611
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 3: going to continue pushing.

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00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 4: It was a super tough interview, by the way, on

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00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 4: it I think it was. You can hear that question

614
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 4: on Netanyau is actually pretty tough in it itself.

615
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 5: It looks like he's not listening. He's a great valid question,

616
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 5: super tough on the border.

617
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 4: It was a really I think it was the hardest

618
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 4: interview that she's done so far, and her answers were

619
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 4: going viral for all the wrong reasons on social media

620
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 4: the last couple of days, for exactly the reasons that

621
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 4: people were worried about Kamala Harris being the candidate in

622
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 4: the first place.

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Speaker 5: You know, Joe Biden stepped down.

624
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 4: She was their apparent, and this is how she sounds

625
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 4: in interviews, So it seems like that's exactly what happened

626
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 4: over the last few days and sixty minutes was a really,

627
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 4: really rough go for her and.

628
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: What's wild And I'm curious if you noticed this. I

629
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: was listening to the Hugh Hewett and Dan Senor on

630
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 3: a podcast the other day. They talked about this interview.

631
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: They were livid at CBS for they they said, aunty

632
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: is real questions and at Harris for not answering it

633
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 3: by saying, well, the real problem and the real reason

634
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 3: we all have a ceasefire is because of Hamas, because

635
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: Amas won't do a ceasefire. So like from the right,

636
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: she's getting blasted for that answer, saying it's too sympathetic

637
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 3: to Hamas and letting Hamas off the hook and CBS

638
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: because CBS is not asking all about Hamas, I guess

639
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: like that, and then from the left, the left looks

640
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 3: at that as her and it's like, that's this is

641
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: absurd and ridiculous, and you're facilitating a genocide, and the

642
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: people in the middle are like, I can't even make

643
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 3: sense of any of this. Right, So it's like zero

644
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 3: for three.

645
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 4: I mean, ultimately, if your ideology on that question is power,

646
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 4: then your answers won't make sense. You can't please anybody,

647
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 4: because if your ideology is pro Israel, then you can

648
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 4: sense that she's not entirely pro Israel, not.

649
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 3: Locks depth, although in practice she is right, but ideologically

650
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 3: not well, who knows. Again, you're assuming she has an ideology, right,

651
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: that's what.

652
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, her ideology is questionable assumption.

653
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: I'm going to need a citation for that.

654
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 5: I think your ideology is not having a strong ideology.

655
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: That's what she's means that, therefore, she's not actually an

656
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: ideologically supportive Zionist.

657
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 4: Yah yah right, Like she's exactly, she's not an ideological Zionist.

658
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 5: She might be pro power and pro American.

659
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: Power, and she's surrounded her ideologues.

660
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 4: Right, and if your ideology is power, then you enable right.

661
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 4: So anyway, that's what I made up. And actually speaking

662
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 4: of that, that's a great opportunity to bring up V six.

663
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 4: This is Mark Cuban saying that he doesn't believe Kamala

664
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 4: Harris should keep Lena Kahan as FTC chair.

665
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 5: Cuban said, if it were me, I wouldn't.

666
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 4: This is what he told Seima for by trying to

667
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 4: break up the biggest tech companies, you risk our ability

668
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 4: to be the best in artificial intelligence. And Cuban has

669
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 4: obviously been all over the place stumping for Kamala Harris.

670
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 4: So add him to the list of very powerful billionaires

671
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 4: telling Kamala Harris giving her money and saying we don't

672
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 4: want Lena Khan.

673
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I had a story a couple days ago

674
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 3: at Dropsite on this same theme that I could put

675
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 3: down the notes there where Cuban says the same thing

676
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: where he except he goes even a little further. He

677
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: says about Gary Gensler and Lena Khan. He says, quote,

678
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 3: she's been very clear, Missus Harris. She's been very clear

679
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 3: that she's against regulation via litigation. She said it She's

680
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 3: had me say it for them. Then Andrew Ross Sorkin

681
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 3: on c NBC aske him, is that a veiled way

682
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 3: of saying that Gary Gensler is legislating through lawsuits, and

683
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 3: he says, I don't think it's very veiled at all.

684
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 3: I think it is what it did. I think it

685
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 3: is what it is. Litigation. Regulation by litigation is another

686
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 3: word for enforcement, Like you put laws in the books,

687
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: and then if people don't, if corporations will follow the laws,

688
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 3: you sue them and you find them or you or

689
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 3: you go after them criminally if they if they really

690
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 3: break the law. Like that's how it works. If you

691
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 3: just put the laws on the books and you can't

692
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 3: do any litigation, what good are the good are the

693
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 3: laws in the books? And so Cuban, it's fastining to

694
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: hear him say, she said it. She's had me say

695
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 3: it for them, She's had me say it. So he

696
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: is a surrogate, he's an official Kamala Harris surrogate. And

697
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 3: so he's saying, like what I am saying about Lena

698
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 3: Kon and Gary Gensler, I am saying at the direction

699
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 3: of Kamala Harris specifically.

700
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 5: Had me say it for them.

701
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is sort of a remarkable which is what

702
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: a starrogate is by definition. But he's being very clear,

703
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 3: I am not on my I'm not out on a limb.

704
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 4: Here, kind of unintentionally transparent. I think is one of

705
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 4: the remarkable things about the post Trump era is that

706
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 4: he's trying.

707
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 3: To He's trying. He's trying to scream at Wall Street,

708
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: she's with you.

709
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 5: Yes, that's it.

710
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, And he wishes he could do that clearly, He's

711
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 4: probably doing it in texts and everything like that. But

712
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 4: it is a remarkable moment of transparency that you don't

713
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 4: often get from surrogates who are on their talking points,

714
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 4: like nobody's business.

715
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 3: It's when you have a billionaire surrogate, they probably feel

716
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 3: a little freer. What are you going to do to them?

717
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 5: It's it's the truck.

718
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 4: It's similar to Trump, right, like he'll say, I know

719
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 4: the system, I alone can fix it.

720
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 5: I'm part of the system. They don't talk like politicians.

721
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 4: So anyway, I don't know that Mark Cuban meant for

722
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 4: that to be super transparent, but it was, and that

723
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 4: is actually what happens. They do give surrogates actual talking

724
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 4: points to go out there and use moral of the story.

725
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 4: Though I think Grin is Kamala Harris predictably having a

726
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 4: lot of trouble in the harsh spotlight of the one

727
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 4: month mark, you know, the final stretch, hump stretch, one

728
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 4: month until election day.

729
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 5: Not as joyful as it was in August.

730
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 3: But as she says, it's still her against Trump.

731
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 5: That's right, that's right, and that's what matters at the

732
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 5: end of the day, for sure.

733
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 4: Speaking of Donald Trump, he was on Ben Shapiro's podcast yesterday.

734
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 5: We can show he was at an event. This is

735
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 5: c one.

736
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 4: You can see he was at an event with Donald

737
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 4: Trump earlier this week. That was on the anniversary of

738
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 4: October seventh. So Trump went to this was did you

739
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 4: catch this in New York?

740
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 3: And here he says, do you want me to sign this?

741
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 11: Right? Yes?

742
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 4: Yes, And you can see him with Ben Shapiro there,

743
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 4: and he was at basically he was at the grave

744
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 4: of Rabbi Schneerson in New York.

745
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 5: That's a you know more about this than I did.

746
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 4: But that was the Lupavicher prominent, like a big deal

747
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 4: with Donald Trump went there, which is why Ben Shapiro

748
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 4: obviously came up for it on the anniversary of October seventh.

749
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 4: You can see Trump is wearing Yamaka there. In the

750
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 4: next day he went on Shapiro's show. So we have

751
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 4: some thoughts from this, We have some clips from this,

752
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 4: some highlights from this. Let's take a listen.

753
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 14: It's really an honored to introduce you to the family

754
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 14: of an American citizen currently being held hostage by Hamas

755
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 14: in the Gaza strip. That citizen's name is e Doon Alexander.

756
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 14: I want to thank you for that. The family was

757
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 14: very grateful to you, obviously for taking the time to

758
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 14: meet with them, and you know, it was really a

759
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 14: meaningful experience. Wonder if you wanted to say something about

760
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 14: the situation for that family and the other families like them.

761
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 12: I thought, from a religious standpoint, it was so beautiful.

762
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 12: I had not been that aware. As you know, I'm

763
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 12: not Jewish, but I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood

764
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 12: to plays mildly with my father being a Brooklyn builder,

765
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 12: I knew lots of Jewish people, almost almost exclusively, if

766
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 12: you want to know the truth. But I thought it

767
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 12: was a beautiful you know, He's explained the whole thing

768
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 12: and how it worked and it was very actually it

769
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 12: was very beautiful ceremonial, and I got to meet the

770
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 12: family and they were great. The young brother is very

771
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 12: close to his brother who's hopefully somewhere right now. I mean,

772
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 12: they really don't know. It must be almost harder when

773
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 12: they just don't know. They're not sure whether or not

774
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 12: he's alive or not alive. They think he is, but

775
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 12: you know, being alive over there now is rough stuff.

776
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 12: And before it was rough, but now it's probably even rougher.

777
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 14: And some people, even on our side, seem to suggest

778
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 14: that you're some sort of total isolationists want to slash

779
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 14: the military. You and Senator Vance have said that your

780
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 14: foreign policy is peace through strength. Can you describe what

781
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 14: your second term foreign policy will look like.

782
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 12: Yeah, Number one, he wouldn't have taken Key because you

783
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 12: wouldn't have had a war, and you would have had

784
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 12: the country just the way it is. Our policy is

785
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 12: very simple, peace through strength. We had no wars, and

786
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 12: I'm not an isolationist. I helped a lot of countries.

787
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 12: I kept countries out of war. We had two countries,

788
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 12: smaller countries. I can explain it later, and I can

789
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 12: explain who they are when we're together. But they were fighting,

790
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 12: and they've been fighting for a thousand years, and they'd

791
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 12: go back and forth and they were going to fight

792
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 12: again and kill tens of thousands of people. And I said, look,

793
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 12: you do that was going to be no trade. There's

794
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 12: going to be tariffs for on your head. There'll be

795
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 12: no trade. And that's for both of them, et cetera,

796
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 12: et cetera. Two days later they called me up that

797
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 12: they've made peace. I do these things. Nobody ever even

798
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 12: heard of it. Iran was broke when we had no terrorism,

799
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 12: we had no attacks, we had no harmas problems, no

800
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 12: hasput problems. We had nothing because Iran didn't have the

801
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 12: money to give to them, because I put sanctions on

802
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 12: and I dealt directly. And you know what I was

803
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 12: asking for, ben one very simple thing. I don't want

804
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 12: them to have a nuclear weapon. Very simple. Everything else,

805
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 12: you know, I want them to have a great life.

806
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 12: I want them to be rich. I want to but

807
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 12: I just didn't want them to have a nuclear weapon.

808
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 12: I would have been able to do that very easily.

809
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 12: But when the Kamala and these people say about Kiev,

810
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 12: and people call it Kiev, and they call it Kiev.

811
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 12: I've always called it Kiev, and it depends on what

812
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 12: part of the world you come from, is what I

813
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 12: figured finally figured out.

814
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 4: Okay, So Ben, if you were listening to that, was

815
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 4: laughing the last Betton had a big, mused looked on

816
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 4: his face for a couple of the other moments as well.

817
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 4: Ravi Schneerson passed away in nineteen ninety four is obviously

818
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 4: very big for the Kabad movement.

819
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 5: So that's where Trump and Shapiro were in there. You're right, Ryan, he.

820
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 4: Did seem like he asked to sign a prayer book,

821
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 4: and it looks like the rabbi said no.

822
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 5: But the next day he goes on the Shapiro Show.

823
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 4: Shapiro, by the way, it should be noted, is not

824
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 4: pretending to be like an objective guy here. He's fundraised

825
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 4: for Donald Trump. He held the fundraiser for him back

826
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 4: in the spring, I think. So he's pretty openly much

827
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 4: like Howard Stern is openly pro Kamala Harrison, pro Democratic

828
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 4: Party establishment. Shapiro's Trump in this case, what did you

829
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 4: make of how Trump responded to those questions?

830
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: And as a producer, Mac points out background on eaton

831
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 3: Alexander he's now twenty. He was born in Tel Aviv,

832
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: grew up in New Jersey, graduated high school in New Jersey,

833
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: then moved to Israel, joined the IDF and was stationed

834
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: outside of Gaza and was captured on October seventh. You know,

835
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 3: Trump doing his best, I guess to care about any

836
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 3: of this stuff, and you know, we all know exactly

837
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 3: what he's going to say every time it comes up

838
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 3: that he has no he has no real solution for anything.

839
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 3: He's just going to say, if I was president, none

840
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 3: of this would have happened and just kind of leave

841
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 3: it at that.

842
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's his favorite line.

843
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know he doesn't expound on it, like

844
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris tries to expound on this line about what's

845
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 4: different between her and Joe Biden. She really could just

846
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 4: say I'm not Joe Biden and let everyone's doing the

847
00:42:58,640 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 4: awkward silence and move on.

848
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 5: That's what Trump does.

849
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 4: He's like, if I was president, none of this would

850
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 4: have ever happened, and you can kind of get away

851
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 4: with it because it's impossible to deny that it is

852
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 4: true she is not Joe Biden, and it is true

853
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 4: that if he was president, we don't.

854
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 5: Know what would have happened.

855
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 3: We don't know, can't prove wrong.

856
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 4: Oh, I actually think there's a decent argument for that

857
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 4: in Ukraine, but we don't need to open up that

858
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 4: particular can of work Ukraine.

859
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: Ukraine's possible, for sure. It galls me when he does

860
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: that on October seventh, though, because October seventh had so

861
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 3: much ado with the Abraham Accords. They've been explicit that

862
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 3: the Abraham Accords cutting Palestinians out of normalization in the

863
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: Middle East incentivized them and drove them huge two to

864
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: violently put themselves back into the conversation like that is

865
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 3: what they have said. It also is exactly what people

866
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 3: predicted would happen if you'd tried to do Middle East

867
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 3: piece without the Palestinians. And so he kind of put

868
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 3: all the kindling out there, threw a match and it

869
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 3: walked away, and then when it starts burning, he's like,

870
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 3: if I was still around here, wouldn't happen. It's like, no,

871
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Ukraine. Maybe quite plausible, who knows, you guys

872
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: seem tight, but this one, no, this is this is

873
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 3: on you.

874
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 5: Well in Ukraine.

875
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 4: I mean Trump actually armed Ukraine and Republicans were very

876
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 4: happy about that at the time. So anyway, it's all

877
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 4: this is in the context of a huge reporting from

878
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 4: Bob Woodward, which I honestly don't believe a word of.

879
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 5: And we might disagree on that.

880
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 4: But I don't believe a word of what he wrote

881
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 4: on Joe Biden or Donald Trump.

882
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 3: Frankly, you usually have direct sources and tapes, and.

883
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, some people do.

884
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bob Woodward is listing people talk. It's just the

885
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: rule of Washington.

886
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 4: So right, Yeah, the big reporting is that he claims

887
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 4: a Trump aide says that maybe Trump and Putin spoke

888
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 4: about seven times, maybe as many as seven time times

889
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 4: since Donald Trump left the White House of former place,

890
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 4: just kind of kinds of things.

891
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 5: To talk about.

892
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 3: But and Putin like actually speaks English to him, Like

893
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: he drops the whole I don't speak English thing?

894
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 15: Is that what?

895
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 5: I didn't see that?

896
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, so the book is I don't know, I'm

897
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 3: I'm just joking.

898
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 4: Oh, I thought you were saying that was actually in

899
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 4: the report, and I was like, that would be quite

900
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 4: a good detail. It's possible, but I think the book

901
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 4: comes out on October fifteenth. Well, the reason that sounded

902
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 4: somewhat plausible to me is that some of the reporting

903
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 4: is about how Putin was given like abbot COVID tests

904
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 4: by Trump and told Trump not to be public about it,

905
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 4: allegedly because it would reflect poorly on Trump, like Putin

906
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 4: was concerned about Trump according to Bob Woodward's reporting, which

907
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 4: is also somewhat strange to me. But anyway, that's why

908
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 4: I think in the context of all of that, this

909
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 4: is I think that's especially interesting, in the context of

910
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 4: all the Ukraine conversation is especially interesting.

911
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 5: In the context of all of that.

912
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 4: It also said that MBS has a burner phone labeled

913
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 4: Trump and a burner phone labeled Jake Sullivan. According to

914
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 4: one of Bob woodwards sources, that.

915
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 3: That's definitely possible. I reported years ago that there was

916
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 3: a WhatsApp group that Jared Kushner and Yahoo, MBZ and NBS,

917
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: and I think that all of their intelligence, their various

918
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: intelligence services, were like, yeah, what are you doing get

919
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 3: yourself a burner.

920
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not gonna want to be doing that on

921
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 4: your iPhone. But anyway, so that was Donald Trump on

922
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 4: Ben Shapiro's show, but both of them clearly both Trump

923
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 4: and Kamala Harris clearly making the rounds of kind of

924
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 4: their partisan media or their ideological media friends. I don't

925
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 4: know if that really changed any minds. I doubt that

926
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 4: changed any minds pretty much. Everarnie's listening to Shapiro is

927
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 4: already with Donald Trump and probably isn't making up their

928
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 4: minds based on this in particular anyone.

929
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, I doubt it. Or actually, there might be

930
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 3: a bunch who are like wondering whether to vote, because

931
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 3: whenever you're talking to a large enough crowd at the points,

932
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 3: you're talking to many, many people who are on the

933
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 3: fence about voting.

934
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 5: That's a good point.

935
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 4: Ben definitely does have like never Trump people in his audience,

936
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 4: but people who are just like sort of regular probably educated,

937
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 4: middle upper middle class suburban voters who might be a

938
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 4: lot of people take for granted that the Abraham Accords

939
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 4: were a period of calm and stability, Like that's taken

940
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 4: as fact that you know, the Abraham Accords actually were

941
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 4: solving the problem in the Middle East, as helping to

942
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 4: further it potentially, You're right, So, like the Republican line

943
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 4: is that listen, contrast the era of the Abraham Accords

944
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 4: with the era of October seventh, Like this is big.

945
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 3: So Biden like picked up the Abraham Accords and forward.

946
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 12: Yeah. Yeah.

947
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 4: Jake Sullivan was writing about it like week before October seventh.

948
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, so anyway, all the architects still in power. Yeah,

949
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 3: and Jared Koshner with a two billion dollar private equity fund.

950
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 4: And Howard Stern when he was courting Hillary Clinton to

951
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 4: go on his show, was saying, specifically to the campaign.

952
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 4: He writes about this in his memoirs, specifically saying to

953
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 4: the campaign, we have truckers persuadable people who might be

954
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 4: thinking about voting for Donald Trump. But if you talk

955
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 4: to Yeah, if you talk to them and you make

956
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 4: your case to them on my show, it might actually

957
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,479
Speaker 4: swing some votes. So you can see where Kamala Harris

958
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 4: would come into that and say, eh, but I don't

959
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 4: know how many of those undecided otters are actually still

960
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 4: listening to Stern.

961
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think I think a lot of them are,

962
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 3: because he still has a talent for speaking. Yeah, people

963
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 3: need shows that are hours long if they have a

964
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 3: lot of window time they got to get through in

965
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 3: the day.

966
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 5: Especially live stuff.

967
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Ryan, let's move on to this incredible

968
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 4: scoop that you guys got over at drop site. A

969
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 4: really really spectacular story, fascinating story. I don't say spectacular

970
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 4: in a good way, so spectacular in a way that

971
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 4: it is profound.

972
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 5: So tell us what we're about to watch.

973
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 3: On August twenty nine, twenty twenty one, an American hell

974
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 3: fire missile fired by a drone killed seven children and

975
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 3: three adults outside of Carli, outside of Cabble. My colleague

976
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 3: armand Gassine filed this report for US about it.

977
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 16: I heard a very true well sound, and I see

978
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 16: that the sky is at black the smoke, and I

979
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 16: think that maybe the accident up and at then the

980
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 16: High Court, but unfortunately my wife.

981
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 15: Call it me. The US military has confirmed in the

982
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 15: last few minutes that it's carried out a drone strike.

983
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 3: Drone strike against an isis K vehicle.

984
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 17: The Pentagon confirmed they hit a vehicle which had suicide

985
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 17: bombers in it.

986
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,959
Speaker 3: The procedures were correctly followed and it was a righteous strike.

987
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 16: When I came in and I saw everyone's borned, everyone

988
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 16: was killed, and the pace of the body was around

989
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 16: that you are around the roof, everywhere, the pace of

990
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 16: the body, and just I see that I'm not able

991
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 16: to see my daughter, my niph for my niece, I

992
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 16: didn't see them Againe.

993
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 3: I offer my profound condolences to the family and friends

994
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 3: of those who were killed.

995
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 18: I'm not angry with you as since they are announced

996
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 18: that they do mistake, tragic mistake, and they apologize for

997
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 18: us and we forgave America because nothing can bring back

998
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 18: our family now. But I expect for the US government

999
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 18: that they got away for has it was so expensive

1000
00:50:55,120 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 18: and California, we have to decide to move for Califronia

1001
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 18: to Kansas City because here is cheaper.

1002
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 3: So I followed up with the State Department at the

1003
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 3: press briefing yesterday, asked Matt Miller if there have been

1004
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: any advancement on the negotiations with this family about potential

1005
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 3: compensation or whatever the word they use for compensation was

1006
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 3: like a gratuity payment or something bizarre. He said he

1007
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 3: had nothing to add yet, but he would get back

1008
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 3: to us when he did. So, you know, it's many

1009
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 3: years ago at this point that this happened. But I

1010
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 3: found it interesting that the survivors were able to say,

1011
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 3: you know, mistakes happened. I don't harbor any anger at

1012
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: the United States.

1013
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 4: I thought that was fascinating, and they said they forgive

1014
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 4: the United States. And if you were listening to this,

1015
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 4: the video ends with text a graphic that says the

1016
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 4: usas negotiations are ongoing, but that any payment would be

1017
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 4: out of good will, not out of any admission of

1018
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 4: guilt or legal liability. And what's interesting about that is

1019
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 4: earlier we watched the clip in the video of the

1020
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 4: US officials saying we apologize to the family, and you

1021
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 4: hear that jexapposed with Mark Milly saying, quote, it was

1022
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 4: a righteous strike.

1023
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 5: So on the one hand, to complete walk back.

1024
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 4: Of the initial position of the US government obviously, on

1025
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 4: the other hand, still no admission of legal liability forthcoming

1026
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 4: as far as the US government is concerned. And that's

1027
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 4: sort of an interesting square to.

1028
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 5: Try and circle.

1029
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's also a reminder that it is good

1030
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 3: that we left Afghanistan because if this type of killing

1031
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 3: ten incent people does not you know, can't is a

1032
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 3: tragic mistake, but isn't the kind of thing that causes

1033
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 3: like a policy change, like we're going to review our

1034
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 3: policies here and see how this happened. Say, well, you know,

1035
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 3: it was mistake. Mistakes happened, and we're just going to

1036
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 3: keep going forward, like you're going to continue to kill

1037
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 3: innocent people if the policies okay, because you're you know,

1038
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 3: you've got somebody in Tampa properly, ye, who's looking through

1039
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 3: a camera at a grainy video and they see somebody

1040
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 3: walking to the trunk of a car with some object

1041
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 3: and filling something and they're like, well, it could be

1042
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 3: a bomb. Well, sure, anybody carrying any like anybody who

1043
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 3: comes home from the grocery store or anybody who's going

1044
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 3: to a game and is loading things into the trunk

1045
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 3: like is in a grainy footage potentially a terrorist loading

1046
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 3: a bomb in there. And it's just it's a hard

1047
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 3: way to think of the world, to think of yourself.

1048
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 3: You're loading up your trunk for softball practice and you

1049
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 3: might just get a hell fire shot at you. Because

1050
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 3: nineteen year old in Tampa figures better safe than sorry.

1051
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 4: It's almost worse than that, because it's not it's not

1052
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 4: just a nineteen year old in Tampa. It's this like

1053
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 4: bureaucratic chain.

1054
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 3: Right and this one, yeah, this one, this one probably

1055
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 3: went up a ways, right, But you know, you have

1056
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 3: to do it quickly, right, although they can follow the

1057
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 3: car for a while. So I mean, hopefully the family

1058
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 3: gets what they considered to be justice. We'll see, oh

1059
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 3: my gosh.

1060
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1061
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 4: But amazing that they were able to say that they

1062
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 4: don't harbor any anger, that they forgive the United States,

1063
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 4: and like you said, hopefully they get some symbolance.

1064
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 12: Of justice here.

1065
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 3: And not surprising the California was too expensive and then

1066
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 3: never moved to Kansas City.

1067
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 5: Not surprising at all.

1068
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 4: And this is happening in the context of just yesterday,

1069
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 4: I think it was the FBI announced that they had

1070
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 4: thwarted a plot by an Afghan who was here in

1071
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 4: a special immigrant visa to this was in Oklahoma City

1072
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 4: to have some type of ISIS terrorist attack against America.

1073
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,919
Speaker 4: And what's frustrating about is our inability to do any

1074
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 4: bureaucratic vetting correctly at all, Like you blow up the

1075
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 4: family of an AID worker who wanted to come to

1076
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 4: the US and be a part of the US, but

1077
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 4: this falls through the crack. So I mean, it's just

1078
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:19,439
Speaker 4: weird incompetent or completely incompetent that the family that should

1079
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 4: have been here contributing is burned.

1080
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 5: And that happens here. Yes, indeed, all right, well, let's

1081
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 5: move on to this.

1082
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 4: Isn't quite just about Project twenty twenty five. It says

1083
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 4: Project twenty twenty five on the banner at the bottom

1084
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 4: of the screen, but it's sort of about the porn

1085
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 4: industry getting involved on behalf of Kamala Harris in the

1086
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four election. This is a wild story and

1087
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 4: not an entirely unpredictable story, but we can put e

1088
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 4: one up on the screen and tear sheet from the

1089
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 4: New York Times about how the porn industry is jumping

1090
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 4: into the presidential campaign, targeting Project twenty twenty five.

1091
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 5: That is the New York Times headline.

1092
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 4: What's happening, essentially is that seventeen porn actors got together,

1093
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 4: cobbled together one hundred thousand dollars and are planning in

1094
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 4: swing states to run on Project twenty twenty five or

1095
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 4: to talk about Project twenty twenty five in political ads

1096
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 4: on those porn sites, so basically in swing states saying

1097
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 4: don't vote for Donald Trump. Obviously, it's an effort to

1098
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 4: aid Kamala Harris's campaign, and it is based on Project

1099
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, which ran I have pulled up the

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00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 4: part of Project twenty five that actually deals with pornography

1101
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 4: and Ezra Klein, who's schedule in the show next week

1102
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 4: programming note, I have to go to Rome, have to

1103
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 4: I will be in Rome for work next week, but

1104
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 4: Ezra client is scheduled to come around the show. But

1105
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 4: Ezra asked me about this part of the Project twenty

1106
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 4: twenty five mandate book because I had spoken about pornography

1107
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 4: at porn Regulation at a conference Earler this summer. And

1108
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 4: this is what Kevin Roberts wrote in the Mandate for

1109
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 4: Leadership from Project twenty twenty five. Pornography Manta fested today

1110
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 4: in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children,

1111
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 4: for instance, is not a political Gordian, not in extricably

1112
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 4: binding up desparate claims about free speech, property rights, sexual liberation,

1113
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 4: and child welfare, which is something you hear in libertarian

1114
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 4: circles a lot. It is no claim to First Amendment protection.

1115
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 4: It's purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women.

1116
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 4: Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and

1117
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 4: as psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed.

1118
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 4: The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned.

1119
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 4: Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed

1120
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 4: as registered sex offenders, and telecommunications and tech firms that

1121
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 4: facilitate its spread should be shuttered. So much farther than

1122
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 4: I would go on porn regulation, and I feel like

1123
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 4: I'm pretty hawkish on peorn regulation, Ryan, but you can

1124
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 4: see where the porn industry would find that to be

1125
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 4: enormously threatening and politically beneficial because.

1126
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 3: It is so hardcore you should all be in jail.

1127
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes for a very easy political ad on

1128
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 4: behalf of the hairscape. And obviously, in order to do this,

1129
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 4: you have to tie Trump to Project twenty twenty five,

1130
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 4: which Trump is trying very hard to distance himself from Trump.

1131
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 3: I think they've already done that successfully.

1132
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 9: They have.

1133
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 4: I mean, my super quick take on it is that

1134
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 4: Trump had nothing to do, literally nothing to do with

1135
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 4: the writing and drafting Project twenty twenty five. He likely

1136
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 4: had no idea what it was, and it angered him

1137
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 4: when he heard out about it. But in his administration

1138
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 4: there would definitely be lots of influence from the.

1139
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 3: People who created Project twenty five. They're going to be

1140
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 3: front and center in front of the line for jobs.

1141
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 5: Two things are gonna be true.

1142
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, Trump had nothing to do with it, and two

1143
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 4: he would definitely use it in his administration just out

1144
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 4: of necessity, right.

1145
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 3: And if Trump doesn't care about policy for the most part,

1146
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 3: then he's going to delegate that to the people who

1147
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 3: do care. And if he hires the people that wrote

1148
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 3: Project twenty twenty five, then these porn folks are right

1149
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 3: to be nervous.

1150
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And it's politically and there is and there are.

1151
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 3: State level of assaults on the porn industry, right, like, yes, yeah,

1152
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 3: where there are wheres there Republican control.

1153
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't go to Pornhub in certain states anymore.

1154
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 4: Basically, Pornhub just they said it was too hard to

1155
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 4: operate in certain states because there'd been a lot of

1156
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 4: this I think comes down to the age verification laws,

1157
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 4: that that was such an owner's burden, which I think

1158
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 4: conservatives are right to say. That kind of tells you

1159
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 4: a little something about how these websites are being run.

1160
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 4: But it was such an owner's burden.

1161
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 5: That they just don't operate in certain states anymore because

1162
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 5: it's really hard to verify the age of people who

1163
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 5: are using those platforms in a way that complies with

1164
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 5: those laws that were passed, because there you know, and

1165
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 5: there are there are privacy concerns.

1166
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 3: I understand that the age verification laws require people to

1167
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 3: like upload their driver's license or something. Yeah, I think

1168
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 3: it varies, but that's I can imagine why that would be, Yeah,

1169
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 3: what he might not want to do.

1170
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 4: You can imagine why that would have an effect on

1171
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 4: people's voting decisions.

1172
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 5: So one hundred thousand dollars not a lot of money.

1173
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 3: Though, So if you know, they always come up with

1174
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 3: these different names for voters, soccer moms, whatever, porn dad.

1175
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 4: Because here so in the New York Times article, they

1176
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 4: say between eighteen to twenty nine year olds, forty four

1177
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 4: percent say that they've watched porn in the last month,

1178
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 4: and between thirty to forty nine year olds that number

1179
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 4: goes up to fifty seven percent in the last month.

1180
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 4: So you have your soccer mom.

1181
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 3: It's a huge electorate, yeah, the key demographic.

1182
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 4: But you can imagine where that would actually be pretty powerful.

1183
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 4: I'm surprised it's only one hundred thousand dollars because like,

1184
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 4: that's the privacy that stuff is psychologically, that would have

1185
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 4: a huge I would imagine that would have a huge

1186
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 4: and powerful effect on people's decisions when they're actually going

1187
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 4: to the ballot box and it's seven swing states, one

1188
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars.

1189
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 5: You spread that out seven swing states, It's really just.

1190
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 3: Not that much money, right, it's the it's more the

1191
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 3: arn media and the New York Times and the breaking

1192
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 3: points and kund of points that is worth. It's going

1193
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 3: to explant I actually boost that.

1194
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 5: You're welcome.

1195
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, So if you're getting a targeted ad, they know

1196
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 3: something about you, well, I.

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01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 4: Think it is just on That's the other reason it

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01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 4: might only be one hundred thousand dollars. They might actually

1199
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 4: have cooperation from the site, so like subsidize the ads

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01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 4: and all of that.

1201
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 3: You would, Yeah, if they were smart, they would use

1202
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 3: their massive audience and advertise to them.

1203
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 4: And it's kind of funny, by the way, because Donald

1204
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 4: Trump is like the president the only president to my

1205
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 4: knowledge that has ever been on the cover of Playboy

1206
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 4: and post for the cover of Playboy.

1207
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 5: So it's Trump. This is a bit Trump.

1208
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 3: I'm sure he personally doesn't want any part of that.

1209
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 3: He doesn't care.

1210
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 4: Stormy Daniels, of course, likely likely had some type of

1211
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 4: relationship with Stormy Daniels.

1212
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 3: And this probably also blends together in people's minds with

1213
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 3: overturning Roe v. Wade, and because in the same states

1214
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 3: where they would be shutting down porn Hub, they're also pushing,

1215
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 3: you know, significan abortion restrictions in the wake of overturning

1216
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 3: Roe v. Wade, and so it probably all gets blended

1217
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 3: together in people's minds as Republicans just creeping into your

1218
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:11,479
Speaker 3: bedroom in multiple different ways.

1219
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's true. I think that's true.

1220
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 4: The Kevin Roberts quote that I read earlier, even I

1221
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 4: was surprised by that, but you.

1222
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 3: Know what, you're like that this can't be right, Like,

1223
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 3: oh wow, I.

1224
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 5: Don't doubt that it was right, but it is.

1225
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 4: I will say that there is a there's a moral

1226
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 4: consistency to that that is superior to the kind of

1227
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 4: mealy mouth approached you see sometimes.

1228
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 5: So at least he's being morally consistent, he's going for it.

1229
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1230
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 4: I think that's actually probably going to increase on the right,

1231
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 4: just given like the porn industry saying it's good that

1232
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 4: fifty seven percent of thirty to forty nine year olds

1233
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 4: are watching porn once a month.

1234
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 5: That doesn't appeal the most.

1235
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 3: How did they how did they lump trans people into that?

1236
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 3: What was the quote again?

1237
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 5: There is So I'll pull up the quote here, but

1238
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 5: I will say that is to.

1239
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 3: Read ten dollars words at the front end of that

1240
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 3: quote for me to be able to follow it.

1241
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 4: It is a common Now, correlation does not equal causation,

1242
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 4: is what I would say to that. But it is

1243
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 4: a common thing when you talk to kids who have

1244
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 4: like de transitioned or even they didn't do a full

1245
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 4: medical transition, but they end up regretting different types of

1246
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 4: therapy or whatever.

1247
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 3: It is a thing that a lot of porn addiction

1248
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 3: along the way. Yeah, comorbidity type situation. Right, Yeah, I

1249
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 3: mean basically, yes, that's what he's trying to say.

1250
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 5: That's what he's trying to say.

1251
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 4: Okay, So the quote here, Ryan, because I know you

1252
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 4: wanted to hear it very very badly. Is pornography manifested

1253
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 4: today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization

1254
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 4: of children, for instance, is not a political gordion, not

1255
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 4: inextricably binding up desperate claims about free speech, property rights,

1256
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 4: sexual liberation, and child welfare.

1257
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 5: So that's the part of.

1258
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 3: Its junior in college writing, writing a paper and with

1259
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 3: no self awareness.

1260
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 4: But that is where it and the propagation of quote

1261
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 4: trensgender ideology and again like that there is I understand

1262
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 4: why it's invoked there, because that's a common point. If

1263
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 4: you see, if you're somebody who sees the stories of

1264
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 4: de transitioners as representative of something that's troubling, as I

1265
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 4: do you do that does just it comes up a lot,

1266
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 4: So I get where it comes from.

1267
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 5: That quote went harder than I would have expected.

1268
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 3: And just for people watching, if you are I want

1269
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 3: to be a writer, if you want to express your ideas,

1270
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 3: don't write like that. It's bad, bad writing.

1271
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 5: Maybe we can get Kevin Roberts on the show.

1272
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 3: You guys get out. If you ever find yourself writing Gordian,

1273
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 3: not stop and go back and rewrite the.

1274
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 5: Sentence Gordian that is, it's never what you really needed.

1275
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 3: To cliche as crutches, they're intellectual crutches.

1276
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 4: All right, Let's move on to our guest, who is

1277
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 4: actually has a pretty unique perspective.

1278
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 3: Tell Jewish Iranian American anti war activist here with the

1279
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 3: National Iranian American Council at the intersection of all the

1280
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 3: worst things going on. So stick around. We'll be talking

1281
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 3: about Benjamin Netanyahoo urging the Lebanese people to quote free

1282
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 3: themselves of a huge portion of the Lebanese population and

1283
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 3: what that means for regional stability going forwards. Stick around

1284
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 3: for that. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin netnah who released an

1285
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 3: unusual English language video directed at the Lebanese people, urging

1286
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 3: them to free themselves from a significant portion of the

1287
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 3: Lebanese population through the organization Hezbola. Let's roll a little

1288
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 3: bit of that.

1289
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 15: This is a message to the people of Lebanon. Do

1290
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 15: you remember when your country was called the pearl of

1291
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 15: the Middle East?

1292
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 12: I do so.

1293
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 15: What happened to Lebanon? A gang of tyrants and terrorists

1294
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 15: destroyed it. That's what happened. Lebanon was known for its tolerance,

1295
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 15: for its beauty. Today it's a place of chaos, a

1296
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 15: place of war. Israel withdrew from Lebanon twenty five years ago,

1297
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 15: but the country that actually conquered Lebanon is not Israel,

1298
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 15: It's irang You have an opportunity to save Lebanon before

1299
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 15: it falls into the abyss of a long war that

1300
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 15: would lead to destruction and suffering like we see in Gaza.

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01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be that way, all right. So

1302
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 3: we're joined now by Eton Mubarak, who is an analyst

1303
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 3: at the National Iranian American Council. Eton, thank you so

1304
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 3: much for joining us. Welcome to the program.

1305
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,439
Speaker 11: Thank you so much, Brian and Emily Grace too great

1306
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 11: to be here.

1307
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 19: Just a quick note, I'll be speaking today in my

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Speaker 19: personal capacity as a Jewish Iranian American advocate, not on

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Speaker 19: behalf of my organization, the National Iranian American Council, but

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Speaker 19: i will discuss the organization's work and.

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Speaker 3: Positions excellent, and we actually prefer that because then people

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Speaker 3: can speak a little bit more freely than if they're

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01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 3: speaking on behalf of a large institution. So Eton, then

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Speaker 3: Yahoo goes on in that clip to say that the

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Speaker 3: Lebanese people basically have a choice that they have to

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Speaker 3: quote free themselves from Hesbola or he's going to turn

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Speaker 3: Lebanon into Gaza. He's going to do to Lebanon what

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Speaker 3: he did to Gaza. And so separating themselves those two

1319
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 3: things out. First of all, what would it look like

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Speaker 3: for Lebanon to quote unquote free itself of Hesbola.

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Speaker 19: Well Ran, I think it would look a lot like

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01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 19: we're seeing in Gaza, and if recent events are any indication,

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01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 19: it's like likely to look like a lot of what

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Speaker 19: we've already seen.

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Speaker 11: But the bottom line is, you know, the United States and.

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Speaker 19: Activists are demanding that the United States should not be

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01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 19: helping that Tiannahu pursue a campaign of regional war with

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01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 19: Iran or regime change in Lebanon while he continues to

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Speaker 19: fail to achieve his strategic goals in Gaza. You know,

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Speaker 19: instead of preventing a war with Iran and throughout the region,

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01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 19: US policy is actively fanning the flames of this conflict,

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Speaker 19: and we need to change course. The fighting in the

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Speaker 19: Middle East, broadly over the last year in Yemen, in Syria,

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Speaker 19: in Jordan, where we lost three US service members, and

1335
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 19: most recently centering Lebanon, Iran, and of course Israel and Palestine,

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01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 19: has flown directly in the face of Biden's stated goals

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01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,600
Speaker 19: of avoiding a regional war. And that's Yahoo continues to

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Speaker 19: cross red lines in in Gaza, in in Rafa as

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01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 19: he as he inflames tensions and seeks this this regional

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Speaker 19: war and and and Hesla has came has also carried

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01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 19: out heanous attacks on civilians, but they've also stated repeatedly

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01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 19: that their attacks will end with a ceasefire in Gaza.

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01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 19: And we should be wary of this campaign to to

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01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 19: distract from the failures of achieving strategic.

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Speaker 3: Goals there and a quick follow upon that and Emily

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Speaker 3: get in if we can put up F two. Nayak

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Speaker 3: has helped to organize a coalition against war with Iran.

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Speaker 3: And I've noticed in the reporting over the last few

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Speaker 3: days that the US is not only coordinating with Israel

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01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 3: when it comes to Israel's response to Iran's response the

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01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 3: back and forth air strikes that we're seeing, which would

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01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 3: implicate the War Powers active because it introduces the United

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01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 3: States into hostilities. But there are there's even reporting from

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01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 3: the New York Times and elsewhere that the United States

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Speaker 3: is considering its own direct air strikes on Iran, which

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Speaker 3: would obviously be a flavored violation of the War Powers

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Speaker 3: Act and the Constitution itself. What's your understanding of the

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01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 3: of the current situation and whether or not the laws

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01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 3: on the books have anything just you know, are are

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Speaker 3: at all an obstacle in what the United States is

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Speaker 3: considering here.

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Speaker 19: Yes Ronan, Yeah, yesterday NBC claimed that US officials discussed

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Speaker 19: joining Israel in offensive strikes against Iran, you know, passing

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01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 19: them off as defensive after the fact. And we and

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Speaker 19: your right to point out that we need to keep

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Speaker 19: in mind Congress has not declared war on Iran, and

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Speaker 19: and that outcome would be disastrous for the region, and

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01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:30,839
Speaker 19: it'd be exactly what Netanyahu wants. And some extremist Israeli

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01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 19: and US Iran haawk camps are suggesting that this is

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01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 19: some kind of generational opportunity to take out Iran, you know,

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Speaker 19: the head of the snake, the eye of the octopus,

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Speaker 19: and what have you. And these calls again are meant

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01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 19: to distract from from the need for a ceasefire. But

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Speaker 19: but in that letter that you that you mentioned that.

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01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 11: That Nayak led you signed along with eighty you.

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01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 19: Know, over eighty civil rights human rights organizations, we're demanding

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Speaker 19: again that the us UH not pass any new laws,

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01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 19: but just adhere to our basic laws on the books,

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01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 19: that we condition weapons, condition offensive weapons in line with

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Speaker 19: the Laky laws.

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Speaker 11: And there's going to be a historic.

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Speaker 19: Vote on a on a on a on a joint

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01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 19: resolution of disapprovals of disapproval to condition weapons coming up.

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01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 19: Senator Sanders is expected to force a vote in mid

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Speaker 19: November after Congress returns from recess, and that will be

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Speaker 19: the first straightforward Senate vote on Israel arms sales since January.

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01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 19: A crucial opportunity to to to you know, enforce whether

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01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 19: or not to see whether or not the US can

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Speaker 19: enforce its own laws, relatives of the Lahy Law and

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Speaker 19: National Security Memorandum twenty And at the.

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Speaker 4: Crux of the efforts from those generational calls of people,

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Speaker 4: especially hawkish on this is the idea that Aaron wants

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Speaker 4: to wipe Israel off the map, as they often say. So,

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Speaker 4: I'm curious for your perspective on how the that that

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Speaker 4: central as somebody who's both Jewish and Iranian, how the

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Speaker 4: characterization of Iran's ultimate goal towards Israel. What do you

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01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,560
Speaker 4: make of that as especially as it is used to

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Speaker 4: justify potentially extreme responses.

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Speaker 5: Uh, that that could be very, very escalatory.

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Speaker 19: So, I mean, let me just make it clear, as

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Speaker 19: a as a Jewish Iranian American, my family left Iran,

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Speaker 19: they live, they came to the United States, and many

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Speaker 19: of them live in Israel now. And I have friends

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01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 19: and family in Israel who are horrified by this conflict,

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01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 19: who are exhausted by the mental toll and the strain

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Speaker 19: of this, you know, aside from the Palestinian humanitarian issue.

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Speaker 19: But I think the bottom line for American Jews and

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01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 19: the big the bigger picture around Iran and the regimes

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Speaker 19: calls to annihilate Israel is that, you know, the US.

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Speaker 19: I'm I'm an American citizen. I can only control what

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01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 19: the United States government does, and activists around the country

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Speaker 19: have been focused, laser focused on us doing better, and

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01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 19: the US needs to do a better job of stopping

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01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 19: this chaotic cycle where Israel has Bola. Iran proxy parties

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01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 19: keep trying to out maneuver each other and one up

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01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 19: each other, each unwilling to see as to be seen

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01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 19: as the one who backs down. This kind of constant

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Speaker 19: cycle of tactical wins in a war that is a

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01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 19: strategic loss for everyone involved, for all civilians involved. And

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Speaker 19: we've seen how military solutions play out to solving political problems,

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Speaker 19: and you know, with I also want to make it

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Speaker 19: clear I absolutely condemned the Islamic Republic regimes, human rights abuses,

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Speaker 19: and I stand with the Iranian people's movement for self determination.

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Speaker 19: The regime has been brutal in its treatment of women,

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Speaker 19: journalists and dissonance of all kinds. And at Naiak we

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Speaker 19: publish a human rights tracker every single week covering the

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Speaker 19: human rights activists and abuse stories coming.

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Speaker 11: Out of Iran.

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Speaker 19: But when we analyze these policies and we advocate for policies,

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Speaker 19: we have to acknowledge facts. And the fact is that

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01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:13,719
Speaker 19: our policies of maximum pressure, broad economic sanctions and general

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Speaker 19: isolation and just eliminating of diplomatic off ramps have undermined

1433
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Speaker 19: US and regional security interests and human rights in the region.

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Speaker 19: Human rights are a disaster all across the region, including

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Speaker 19: in Iran and and and obviously in Palestine. So so

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Speaker 19: our policies they need to be attached to advancing clear

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01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 19: goals and you know that that needs I think that

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Speaker 19: needs to be the framing with regards to Iran, you know,

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Speaker 19: And and that doesn't mean that I, you know, in

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Speaker 19: a vacuum conversation, I don't want to see the Iranian

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01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 19: regime gone and see a you know, a better government

1442
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 19: that serves the Iranian people. But I don't think the

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01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 19: United States and bb METS and Yahoo are the the

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01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 19: the are the careful executioners of a regime changing in

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Speaker 19: especially given the US legacy of supporting efforts to install

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Speaker 19: and regium change in Iran in fifty three.

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Speaker 11: So I'll leave it at that, and there's more to talk.

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Speaker 19: Also, there's a template, sorry to example, but there's a

1449
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 19: template for how we can solve this in terms of goals,

1450
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 19: like the Iranian Nuclear Deal, even though it wasn't perfect,

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01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 19: it was working to contain Iran's nuclear program, and Iran's

1452
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 19: current president, as Eshkion, supports it and put together a cabinet,

1453
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 19: whatever you think of you put together a cabinet of

1454
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:43,640
Speaker 19: former JSQA negotiators again in support of a deal that

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01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 19: was containing Iran's nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief

1456
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 19: to the Iranian people. And the Trump administration withdrew from

1457
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 19: it while Iran was complying. It destroyed goodwill and trust.

1458
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 19: But there is still a world. I believe that there

1459
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 19: is still a world where we can re engage with

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Speaker 19: Iran even in this moment and de escalate the regional

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Speaker 19: conflicts and deal with the nuclear issue.

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Speaker 11: But it's not going to come if the US continues

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01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 11: to be will.

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01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 19: You know, unwillingly or be dragged along into a five

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01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 19: front regional war at Netsanya?

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Speaker 11: Who's best?

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Speaker 3: One other thing I wanted to ask you about, By

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Speaker 3: the way, I forgot to mention that I would bring

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Speaker 3: this up. But I don't know. Did you notice that

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Speaker 3: Netanyahu yesterday or the Israeli government yesterday put out basically

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Speaker 3: an infographic with a bunch of targets of people that

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Speaker 3: it intended to assassinate at some point going forward and on.

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Speaker 3: That was Ali al Sistani, one of the most revered figure,

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Speaker 3: maybe the most revered you know, cleric or religious figure

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Speaker 3: on the U of the Shi of the Shia faith,

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Speaker 3: somebody who met the Pope fairly recently, a political spiritual leader.

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Speaker 3: Uh and a lot of people were shocked to see

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Speaker 3: his face with the target on it, along with like

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Speaker 3: Hesbula commanders and I'm and like, I think the Ia

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Speaker 3: stin war or something was on there. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you saw that, but uh, is that is that

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Speaker 3: rippling through the Shia community at all?

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Speaker 11: Do? I can't speak to it. I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 3: That's different, different, different, different area over there. So Anyway,

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Speaker 3: I also wanted to ask you about the UH the

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Speaker 3: Irish if you have any sense of where this situation

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Speaker 3: with the Irish speaking in my own sec the Irish

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Speaker 3: Lebanon UH, the I d F has kind of ordered

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Speaker 3: these Irish peacekeepers you know, to basically get out of

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Speaker 3: their way, and the Irish are saying, we can put

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Speaker 3: up F three by the way. This this is a

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01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 3: v O of the of some id F soldiers raising

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Speaker 3: a flag in in southern Lebanon. Rather provocative act and

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Speaker 3: certainly you know, not beating the charges of a planned

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Speaker 3: occupation of southern Elebinon by doing that. This and so

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Speaker 3: you know, the the Irish troops have said that they

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Speaker 3: have not been directly threatened by the I d F.

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Speaker 3: Hesbula has said that they will not fire at I

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Speaker 3: d F troops who are anywhere near the Irish because

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Speaker 3: they don't want to catch the Irish. What do you

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Speaker 3: make of the kind of this this U N peacekeeping

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Speaker 3: role of the of the Irish kind of refusing to

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Speaker 3: back down? What and what what's your sense of how

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01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 3: things are going broadly in Israel's ground invasion.

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Speaker 19: Well, I know that the Irish Prime Minister on the

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Speaker 19: on the on the global stage, has been one of

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Speaker 19: the one of the most outspoken proponents of Palestinian human

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Speaker 19: rights and critics of of work of the you know,

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01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 19: alleged war crimes committed by the idea. Within this, I'm

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Speaker 19: glad to see h you know, UH peacekeeping forces involved

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01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 19: and trying to stand in solidarity.

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Speaker 11: Amidst uh you know, with with with the Lebanese people.

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Speaker 19: You know, we've seen with the ground invasion so far,

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Speaker 19: what two thousand Lebanese folks killed, a million displaced.

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Speaker 11: It's it's uh.

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Speaker 19: And and while the I d F and Israelis you know,

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Speaker 19: maintain a strategic advantage in terms of air strikes the

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01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 19: ground invasion, there are there are questions, especially considering the

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Speaker 19: recent operation that saw eight I d F soldiers killed.

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Speaker 19: I mean, the fact is, I think more broadly, this

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Speaker 19: is one of the darkest periods in the region, uh,

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Speaker 19: in the region's history. But it doesn't it still doesn't

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Speaker 19: have to be like this, uh. And we need to

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Speaker 19: call out as Jews, as as Americans, you know, obviously,

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01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,680
Speaker 19: we need to call out the call and and and

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Speaker 19: and call anti stemitism and escalation from from the one

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Speaker 19: side calling to destroy Israel but we also need to

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Speaker 19: call out and condemn this greater Israel expansion dream along

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Speaker 19: with ethnic lens and occupation in Lebanon and in the

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Speaker 19: West Bank ongoing.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 19: You know, no side, despite these calls to eliminate the

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Speaker 19: Israelis from from you know, the one side, and and

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Speaker 19: calls to expand Israel into these states on the other,

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Speaker 19: no side is going anywhere. In my opinion, despite the

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Speaker 19: regime change fantasies, no side is going away, and we

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Speaker 19: we need to just embrace the sustainable path, you know,

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Speaker 19: through diplomacy and negotiations. This I I don't see the

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Speaker 19: ground invasion in Lebanon, uh, you know, eliminating Hesbal they

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Speaker 19: may have degraded them, they may significantly. You know that

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Speaker 19: certainly some decapitation UH strategy has has has worked uh

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Speaker 19: in that sense, but there's a lot of and international

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01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 19: relations scholars that have questioned the efficacy of, yeah, of

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01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:58,719
Speaker 19: decapitation tactics.

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Speaker 4: Ahead, we wanted to get your reaction to a fairly

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01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 4: viral confrontation that Liam Cosgrove of Grey Zone had with

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Speaker 4: State Department spokesman Matthew Miller yesterday. Ryan was there for it,

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Speaker 4: so he'll have probably some color to add to the conversation.

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Speaker 4: But this is Liam questioning Matt Miller on escalation. Essentially,

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Speaker 4: we couldn't roll this clib.

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Speaker 17: We often hear in response to these concerns that, well,

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Speaker 17: putin Kamani, you know their war criminals, they're terrorists, as

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Speaker 17: if they're too inherently evil or a moral for us

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01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 17: to negotiate with. But meanwhile, this administration has financed a

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Speaker 17: genocide in Gaza for the last year, and every day

1556
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Speaker 17: you're up there denying accountability for it. So, I mean,

1557
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,600
Speaker 17: what gives you the right to lecture other countries on

1558
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 17: there more? If you have a policy question for me,

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01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 17: I'm happy to take it. If you want to give

1560
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 17: a speech, but I think spa places in Washington where

1561
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 17: you can give a speech. Yeah, but people are sick

1562
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:49,600
Speaker 17: of the bullshitting here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it is a genocide.

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Speaker 17: Mean, you are betting on another question, and you are

1565
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,719
Speaker 17: risking nuclear war and you crazy places give a speech.

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Speaker 3: So the question I guess was what gives you the right?

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Speaker 8: What are you?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What does give the United States right? So we if

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Speaker 3: you have a response, that go for it. We just

1571
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 3: wanted to kind of make sure that we had that

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Speaker 3: as a chaser to the program.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you make of any.

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Speaker 19: Look, I share the frustration, you know, in the in

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01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,560
Speaker 19: the question and Frankly, you know, I'm an I'm an organizer.

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Speaker 11: We we work you know as a at Nayak.

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Speaker 19: We were you know, we have fourteen volunteer chapters and

1578
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 19: thousands of members and allies around the country. And we've

1579
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 19: been organizing meetings every you know, at every chance we

1580
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,600
Speaker 19: can for the last year, with members of Congress and

1581
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 19: their staff trying to call for no war with Iran,

1582
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 19: cease fire, no weapons for war crimes, unrough funding by

1583
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 19: the way, another huge issue, and UH and diplomacy first,

1584
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 19: and in these meetings people are get extremely emotional and

1585
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 19: Democrats have failed, frank to UH, in my opinion, properly

1586
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 19: engaged with with Middle Eastern Arab Muslim communities on this

1587
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 19: and with with progressives generally. They've you know, there was

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01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 19: a moment of hope when Kona replaced Biden and when

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Speaker 19: Possession got elected.

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Speaker 11: But right now we were not.

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Speaker 19: I I don't have so much faith in in the administra,

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Speaker 19: in the administration right now, certainly before the election, UH

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01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 19: to make any significant departures from from what has been,

1594
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 19: and and and and again. You know the clip aside,

1595
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 19: I would just love to reiterate some of the things

1596
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 19: that activists have been calling for again with with the

1597
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 19: war powers, with diplomacy with Iran, was rejecting this war,

1598
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 19: the great statements from some members of Congress, folks like

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Speaker 19: Represented mcgoverned, Jayapaul, the Congression Progressive Caucus, Center Van Holland,

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Speaker 19: et cetera. And the under a Restoration Act was was

1601
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 19: just introduced, which is a huge, huge potential issue in

1602
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 19: addressing the humanitarian crisis. So but but I feel for

1603
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 19: that reporter. It's I'm glad I'm not I don't have

1604
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 19: to be in those rooms because I might, I might

1605
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 19: lose its fit. Your meetings are are are much better.

1606
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was. Yeah, It's like there was a question

1607
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 3: there where do you get off basically, where do you

1608
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 3: get the right to say the things you say?

1609
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 16: Right?

1610
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 6: Uh?

1611
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 3: Etom O Brock, thank you so much for joining us,

1612
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 3: really appreciate it.

1613
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 4: All right, Well that does it for us today? Like

1614
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 4: I said, quick programming note, we uh, well, soccer will

1615
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 4: be here in my.

1616
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:44,879
Speaker 3: Stead extra show on Wednesday.

1617
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have a fellowship in Roma.

1618
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 3: As a result, Triple bro Show, Triple Bro Show.

1619
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, that's going to be too much.

1620
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 3: That's still not a lot of tea, right, I mean

1621
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 3: that's that's three low tea dudes.

1622
01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 5: Right, don't tell soccer that soccer for you?

1623
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 3: This I was bringing the taste.

1624
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 5: Someone cut this, yeah, actually, don't leave it. And it's

1625
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 5: more fun that way.

1626
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 4: But anyway, that's the schedule for next week. I'm looking

1627
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 4: forward to watching. I wish it could be there. Ezra

1628
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 4: is such an interesting guy, and you guys go way back.

1629
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we've been came up in this field

1630
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 3: together twenty years ago or something at this point, Lord,

1631
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 3: so that'll be exciting. I remember when he was a

1632
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 3: young man compared to me, compared to you. Now we're

1633
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 3: both old.

1634
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1635
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 4: Well, I look forward to watching that and watching a

1636
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 4: Bro show with you and Sager. Soarker doesn't often get

1637
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 4: to subn on counterpoints, so that'll be extra fun.

1638
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 5: He's on your tour. Oh no, I always move for crystals,

1639
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 5: so he should move.

1640
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 3: I actually prefer this side, so I'm going to try

1641
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 3: to move over to this side.

1642
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 4: All right, Stay tuned to figure out which side of

1643
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 4: the desk Ryan ends up on, and after that, We

1644
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 4: have what two three weeks till the election.

1645
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,719
Speaker 3: So stick around for Counterpoints Friday. Come back on Friday

1646
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 3: for It. We're going to have Jeremy sk Hill, my

1647
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 3: co founder over it drops O new is in, my

1648
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 3: former colleague back at our last organization as well.

1649
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 4: Very exciting. All right, stay tuned. We'll be back with

1650
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 4: more on Friday or Thursday night. If you're a premium subscriber,

1651
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 4: Breakingpoints dot com to get the show early.

1652
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Speaker 10: Toe you later,