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Speaker 1: Second Date Updated.

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Speaker 2: We've been doing second date updates on our show for

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Speaker 2: what now over ten years?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no longer just ye, like one hundred years.

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Speaker 3: Fifty yeah, seventy five.

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Speaker 1: Somewhere around there.

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Speaker 2: And it's interesting because when we first started, we found

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Speaker 2: it so weird that more and more people were meeting

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Speaker 2: strangers from online, and now we find it odd that

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Speaker 2: more and more people are choosing to go back to

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Speaker 2: meeting up in person again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who wants to do that?

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Speaker 3: It's so weird. We've kind of come full circle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, at a bar, we're like, was it scary?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly how I'm feeling about today's listener who

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Speaker 2: reached out to us Mia.

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Speaker 1: She needs our help. Mia.

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Speaker 2: What were you thinking meeting a guy in person? That

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Speaker 2: must have been terrifying for you.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean it was at a friend housewarming party,

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Speaker 4: so you know, there were a bunch of people.

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Speaker 5: There, so you you didn't scream and until thirty minutes into.

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Speaker 4: The Yeah, I mean he might be the one who

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Speaker 4: streamed and ran I'm pulling into him.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you met him at a house party, you had

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Speaker 2: mutual friends there, clearly what's the guy's name?

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Speaker 4: Uh, Owen is his name, it was.

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Speaker 3: Can I ask real quick, was this like a mutual

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Speaker 3: setup type of sitch?

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Speaker 4: No? I don't think so. I mean, she certainly didn't

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Speaker 4: say anything to me if it was okay, stay with

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Speaker 4: me because it sounds a little nerdy. But he was

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Speaker 4: dominating charades.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I'm that word when I when you say house party,

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Speaker 6: I was picturing like beer pall games like that.

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Speaker 3: The game Fishbowls so popular.

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Speaker 2: I've paid every party with my friend.

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Speaker 5: You could drink fish Bowls at the same time you play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a bit of alcohol going around for sure.

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Speaker 2: So tell us about the connection that you and Owen

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Speaker 2: like had that happen.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: I went up to him afterwards and was just like, wow,

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Speaker 4: that was pretty impressive. You're really great at that, and

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Speaker 4: like I'm a terrible mime, and so I was just

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Speaker 4: like wow, you know. And then the very next day

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Speaker 4: he reached out to me through our mutual friend Julia.

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Speaker 4: He got got my number through her, I know, yay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he took an extra step to even make

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Speaker 3: it happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he took initiative and we were just sort of

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Speaker 4: texting kind of casually back and forth, but pretty quickly

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Speaker 4: he turned it into a date. He was like, let's

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Speaker 4: go to this retro arcade, like a barcade.

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Speaker 1: Did they serve drinks there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a bar. But then there's like you know,

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Speaker 4: old video games and there's like pinball and stuff.

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Speaker 3: What was it like between you YouTube? And it was

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Speaker 3: just one on one.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was really good. I mean we met there,

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Speaker 4: but he had dressed up, you know, he looked really

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Speaker 4: great and.

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Speaker 1: Just kind of a bar arcade.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you mean dressed up?

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Speaker 4: Did I get a tuxedo or no? Not like touch

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Speaker 4: but like I don't know, just like it puts some

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Speaker 4: careend it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the fact that he has pants on, that's a

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Speaker 1: big win or a.

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Speaker 3: Big loss, depending on what kind of.

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Speaker 4: Date you are.

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Speaker 1: True, if it's going that well, you might want them off.

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Speaker 4: So her first date, I'll take the pants Okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: Fair, fair.

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Speaker 2: So I mean what were the highlights or low lights,

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Speaker 2: like paint the picture for us?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm really good at pinball, so it meant that

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Speaker 4: I kind of got to show off that time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh is this really a flex?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a flipper queen. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He took the high score.

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Speaker 2: Is that where we're at where we're looking for in

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Speaker 2: a in a significant other.

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Speaker 5: I just think anytime someone can nerd out about something

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Speaker 5: that they're excited about is a positive passion. Is he

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Speaker 5: rooting you on at the pinball machine?

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Speaker 4: Totally?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: And it's just really fun. He had that same kind

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Speaker 4: of energy as the first night that I've seen him,

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Speaker 4: just being really funny and really upfeed. And he shows

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Speaker 4: me this picture of himself from high school that a

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Speaker 4: friend had sent to him, and I'm like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know he's kind of dorky then, but he goes, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: look over there, the bartender has my same haircut. That's awesome.

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Speaker 4: You know, you can kind of just like poke fun

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Speaker 5: And I thought you met bartender in the photo and

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Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm sorry, I still bartender in the arcade

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Speaker 5: has the same photo, has the same haircut as him

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Speaker 5: in high school.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was in the picture.

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Speaker 3: No, I get it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you both went over to the bartender and

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Speaker 2: gave him a wedgie.

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Speaker 4: There was a nice kiss at my cars I was leaving. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean it seems like a really good date. Like

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Speaker 4: there there's no reflect but that was six days ago.

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Speaker 4: Six he didn't go with me, but he's not initiating

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Speaker 4: any conversation, and he's like one word responses, Like I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 4: how was your day? He's like good, Oh yeah, that

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Speaker 4: feels so bad.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes I'm like, I just wish they just leave you alone.

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Speaker 5: Then yeah, you know, why why even write the one word?

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Speaker 2: I mean sometimes I'll say that, but then I'll follow

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Speaker 2: it if I'm really busy with being like good and

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Speaker 2: then be like sorry, it's short text. I'm really busy,

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Speaker 2: Like we'll talk to you know, like just a clarify

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Speaker 2: because it does feel kind.

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Speaker 1: Of mia, What did you think he meant by good?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm distiguring he doesn't want to hear from me,

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Speaker 4: but he's not gohosting me because we have this mutual friend.

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Speaker 4: I asked her about it and she's like, oh, you

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Speaker 4: didn't say anything to me.

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Speaker 2: Forget about because you guys are going to see each

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Speaker 2: other maybe, so all right, you're getting the vibe that

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Speaker 2: he's kind of politely trying to avoid you now, so

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Speaker 2: we need to figure out what's really gone.

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Speaker 3: We're not gonna let that happen. Well, no no politeness here,

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Speaker 3: no answer.

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Speaker 1: Though, that's his answer, Like, oh, I'm not interested. No,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna make fun of him for that.

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Speaker 5: Answer, after that bad haircut he had in high school.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, we're going to bully him into a second date

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Speaker 2: with you, whether he wants it or not. We'll me

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Speaker 2: come back, call him and get you your second date update.

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Speaker 4: Go get him.

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Speaker 1: Next second date update.

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Speaker 2: Every man knows if a woman tells you it's fine. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: things are not fine at all. So when our listener

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Speaker 2: Mia texted her date Owen, asking how his day was going,

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Speaker 2: and he replied good, she knew instantly yikes.

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Speaker 1: Good. That's bad, right, Mia?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I think so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm laughing because every single person in the room

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Speaker 2: is totally following along.

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Speaker 1: The girls are like, yep, that's right, that's true.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't everyone agree with that?

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Speaker 1: I mean even I have to agree.

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Speaker 5: But come on, that's a little better than fine, though

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Speaker 5: there's hope.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's weird because your arcade date, the way

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Speaker 2: you described it to us, sounded like it went just fine.

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Speaker 1: Like I would go as far to say it went good.

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Speaker 1: But maybe that's bad. I don't know it.

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Speaker 3: Wait great because there was a kiss at the end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay, that is undeniably, but who knows what

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Speaker 2: words mean anymore. So it's safer to just call Owen

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Speaker 2: and ask for his thoughts directly on it.

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Speaker 5: You know, sometimes you got to read between the lines.

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Speaker 5: Jeff It's not just black and white all the time.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: I'm reading in between the lines of that sentence.

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Speaker 1: Right, should you be? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Does she want you to this message?

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to do other than just dial

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Speaker 1: Owen's number and pray that he answers. Na, good luck

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Speaker 1: to us on this good luck to you?

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Speaker 4: What about me?

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Speaker 3: It's more about her than than you or me.

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Speaker 1: You have to read between the lines of what I said.

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Speaker 3: To Literally, I wanted to men.

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Speaker 1: You know what, It's fine. I'm just going to die

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Speaker 1: with the number. Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hey is this Owen? Yes, hey man, thanks for answering.

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Speaker 2: We're a radio show. We're called Brook and Jeffrey in

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Speaker 2: the Morning.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Owen, welcome to the show. How's it going, Owen?

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Speaker 1: I'm saving that one.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Clever owing you there?

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Speaker 7: Uh yeah, I just what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Sorry?

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Speaker 7: Hey man?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, this is it's a segment we do. It's

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Speaker 2: called a second date update. Okay, okay, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you're familiar with it.

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Speaker 7: But I'm not familiar with it now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, just to clue you in, it's basically where

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Speaker 2: we help out our listeners. If they've gone out with

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Speaker 2: somebody on a date recently and they're not getting a

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Speaker 2: call back for a second meet up, they come to

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Speaker 2: us to try and reach out and figure out.

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Speaker 1: If there's a reason why.

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Speaker 7: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: And so we heard through the grapevine that you are

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Speaker 2: really good at charades.

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Speaker 5: Oh, which it is so disappointing this is a radio

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Speaker 5: show because there's no way for us to tell Yeah,

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Speaker 5: we can't.

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Speaker 1: You prove it?

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Speaker 7: So where about raids?

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's still pretty random.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I know it's a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: deep cut. But we heard that from Mia, the girl

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Speaker 2: that you went on a date with after the housewarming

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Speaker 2: party you met her at.

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Speaker 3: Did you like Mia? Do you guys have a good time?

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Speaker 7: The date was pretty good? But a few days later

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Speaker 7: I did look her up on social media?

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, that's very normals. How does that change things?

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Speaker 7: Look, I don't know if I'm comfortable telling you.

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Speaker 5: Guys, I mean it's on social media. It's obviously not

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Speaker 5: something she's trying to hide.

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Speaker 3: What did you see like a picture or a post?

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Speaker 7: Okay, I guess I'll just tell you. Guys. So she

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Speaker 7: was in like a wedding dress and doing like wedding things,

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Speaker 7: doing what wedding things? I mean I didn't see her

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Speaker 7: like with a groom or anything. But she was there

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Speaker 7: in the wedding dress.

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Speaker 2: Whoa, And so how are you're reading that as she's

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Speaker 2: obviously married. Yeah, you don't just put on a wedding

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Speaker 2: dress usually, well, model people do weddings Wednesdays at the office,

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Speaker 1: Why would that have to hold? Jeffs Vail? How are

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Speaker 7: I'm not sure exactly how to read it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's so weird. Like you are you think

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Speaker 5: Ohen you got her phone number from your guys's mutual friend, Like,

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Speaker 5: why wouldn't your mutual friend.

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Speaker 3: Have given you a heads up if she was married?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no chance.

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Speaker 7: I did speak to our mutual friend and she's only

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Speaker 7: known her for a few months. So okay, he doesn't

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Speaker 3: Well, you can't write her off. You got to just

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Speaker 7: You know, I don't really want to be a part

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Speaker 7: something I don't think I'm going to be into.

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Speaker 3: But you don't know what it is yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the good news is these second date calls

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Speaker 2: usually very low drama. And we can prove that to

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Speaker 1: Who's been quietly listening the entire time. Oh and.

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Speaker 7: She on the phone.

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Speaker 2: Well that's kind of how we make this segment work,

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Speaker 7: But you need to tell me stuff that If I'm

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Speaker 2: Well that's going to make it more dramatic. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to give it low drums.

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Speaker 1: And the library.

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Speaker 3: It's on her social media, she knows it's there. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you could have said much worse. Yes, now she has

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Speaker 2: To explain, So go ahead and me a jump in.

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Speaker 2: And what's the deal with your wedding dress picture that.

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Speaker 1: You have online.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I did do a photo shoot in a wedding dress.

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Speaker 1: Why why, what's the point of that.

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Speaker 5: She's like, it was for a wedding that I was

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Speaker 1: Yes, but I'm not married.

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Speaker 4: It was sort of a wedding without a groom, you know,

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Speaker 4: like I want to get married sometime. I love love.

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Speaker 4: And my friend was like, look, you have been wanting

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Speaker 4: I just did this little wedding and a photo shoot,

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Speaker 4: It's like I wanted to party and I wanted to

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Speaker 3: It's like cut, I mean, what is owen?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah? Oh, and that's not weird right for herself?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's pretty weird. Really.

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm not conventional, that's for sure. Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: but weird. I mean she's manifesting, right. They always say

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Speaker 2: Look, it seems like you're a little bit on the

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Speaker 2: fence about this. Where's your head?

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean I could see both sides, Like it's a

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Speaker 3: I think you need to edit the caps on that

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Speaker 1: I am not married.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know that that.

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Speaker 1: Helps future wedding.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Owen, where are you at with this?

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't know. I mean, like you said, the

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Speaker 7: guy or guys that you're gonna date, you're gonna see this.

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Speaker 7: So that could put a lot of pressure on a person.

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Speaker 2: Okay, clearly we need to get you into a tuxedo

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Speaker 2: and have you slow dance with your mom for you

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Speaker 2: to really understand what's.

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Speaker 4: I just feel like my doing this means I got

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Speaker 4: any guy that I'm dating. Sure, no.

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Speaker 1: Wedding, see if you ever get married doesn't even count.

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Speaker 5: Then Hey, second weddings count. People have second wedding.

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Speaker 1: Do you divorce yourself then and then start over.

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Speaker 2: It's not a legal marriage, Jose, so you don't have

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Speaker 2: to worry about all the minutia it's okay. The bottom

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Speaker 2: line we're trying to figure out is fake wedding pictures aside.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like you have a connection with each other?

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Speaker 5: You guys sounded so cute together, like you bonded, You

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Speaker 2: You got to the bottom of this really quickly, good

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Speaker 2: first kiss, And if any of that is true, then

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Speaker 2: it's worth pursuing another date, and we would pay for it.

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Speaker 7: I gotta be honest with you. I don't think this

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Speaker 7: gonna bow out.

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Speaker 5: He's got cold feet.

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Speaker 1: Owen, she's good at pinball. You can't forget that.

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Speaker 7: She's actually great at pinball. And I wish you would

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Speaker 1: But she still can if you're willing to give her

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Speaker 4: Oh, and I had a really fun time on our date.

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Speaker 4: I thought we had a really good connection. And I

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Speaker 4: just don't know why this feels so weird because I

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the picture is a little bit unusual,

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Speaker 3: I bet she had a lot of likes.

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Speaker 7: So that's true.

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Speaker 3: My wedding photo has got me so many likes. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But Allen, I mean, this is the last time I'll ask,

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Speaker 2: will you give me a one more chance?

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Speaker 1: It sounds like you're asking give me a down on

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Speaker 1: one knee.

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Speaker 2: Will take Ania to be your lawfully wedded date date

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Speaker 2: for one night, one more night, and we'll pay for it.

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Speaker 7: I hate to say it again, but but just no.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, well I don't have to wonder anymore. So

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Speaker 4: thank you guy, you still sound so nice.

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Speaker 5: Well, maybe make your social media private and that way

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Speaker 5: you can explain it before people see it.

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Speaker 4: Mike going to put it out in the universe. It's

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Speaker 4: not to be private. It's going to be out there

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Speaker 4: public for everybody to see. And maybe that's my screening mechanism.

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Speaker 4: If a guy can't handle it, then he's not right

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Speaker 4: for me.

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Speaker 3: Her new handle is when Mia gets married.

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Speaker 1: Follow you're luck for the next twenty years of dating.

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Speaker 2: MEA Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Man, I don't I don't know if I can do

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Speaker 1: these much longer. What I'm getting break you? I get

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Speaker 1: to invest in.

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Speaker 2: So when they say no, I feel like I'm getting rejected.

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Speaker 1: For a second, Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 2: Kind of feel like she should have got a date

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Speaker 2: or she should still.

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Speaker 5: I also understand his side, though it's a lot to

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Speaker 5: see that. Like if I saw a dude in a

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Speaker 5: went out with them, it'd be hard for me.

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Speaker 2: But it is a bummer because Mi I was and

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Speaker 2: I'm going to actually use Brooks words here, she was

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Speaker 2: just being her authentic self. Yeah, she said, I'm not

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Speaker 1: Back to me.

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Speaker 3: I agree with that, but I didn't never use those words.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, you've used those words at some point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well edit it together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just really hope that Mia finds love

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Speaker 2: and stays far far away from our show as long

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Speaker 2: as possible, because.

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Speaker 1: I can't take any more rejection. I can't do it.

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Speaker 3: So, wow, you're so fragile.

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Speaker 2: Remember she finds a guy who just has a tux

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Speaker 2: in his picture, that would be great. Do it on

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