WEBVTT - The Future

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<v Speaker 1>On the last couple of days of my trip to Alsavador,

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<v Speaker 1>I finally got to take some time off reporting and

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<v Speaker 1>just relax with my family. One of the first things

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<v Speaker 1>we did was take a tour of the house that

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<v Speaker 1>my parents built in their hometown, San Miguel.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Okira, yeah there from fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>The plot of land that this house is built on

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<v Speaker 1>was bought by my great grandmother almost one hundred years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the land where my grandmother was born, then my

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<v Speaker 1>mom and my sisters too, Where there was once only

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<v Speaker 1>a wooden shack on dirt. My parents built a five

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<v Speaker 1>bedroom house with concrete walls and ceramic tile floors.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's nicetyle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the taj Mahal, but it's nice, comfortable and homie,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's nice to see my mom so happy and excited.

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<v Speaker 1>And while my mom is really happy to be retired,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad's happy too, but for very different reasons. So

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<v Speaker 1>here I am in the finest famous Langer, my mom

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<v Speaker 1>and dad's restaurant that they opened uh next to their

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<v Speaker 1>house in San Miguel.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to describe. Behind the house, my dad has

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<v Speaker 1>constructed a giant, and I mean giant dance hall slash restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>He named it e Langer the Hangar and made the

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<v Speaker 1>whole place airplane themed for reasons unknown. And on top

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<v Speaker 1>of this restaurant is a life sized single seater metal

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<v Speaker 1>plane that my dad welded out of scrap metal. And

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<v Speaker 1>my dad will probably tell everyone that you can see

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<v Speaker 1>it from space, which is not true, but you can

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<v Speaker 1>see it on Google Maps. For Google Maps, you you

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<v Speaker 1>can look down and see the plane that was on

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<v Speaker 1>top of my dad's restaurant, Elangarre. The plane is painted

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<v Speaker 1>bright yellow with a red racing stripe down the sides,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I asked him how he got it on

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<v Speaker 1>the roof, he told me he paid a crane to

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<v Speaker 1>come and lift it onto the building. On the side

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<v Speaker 1>of the plane is a sticker with the cover art

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<v Speaker 1>for the last show that I made, Princess of South Beach,

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<v Speaker 1>which if you need a palate cleanser from this show,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good bet. I have to say I never

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<v Speaker 1>thought this day would come my whole life. My parents

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<v Speaker 1>told us that when they we retired, they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>go live in El Salvador, that they wanted to live

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<v Speaker 1>out their old age in the place that they still

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<v Speaker 1>thought of as home. My dad has dreamed of opening

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<v Speaker 1>this restaurant and getting to MC karaoke nights here his

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<v Speaker 1>entire life, but that just never really seemed like a possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>It was dangerous to open a business here. You didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know how much trouble the gangs were going to give

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<v Speaker 1>you if they let you do it at all. But

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty one, after spending their whole lives working

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<v Speaker 1>in the US, my parents finally felt confident enough to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. And there's one person who my mom credits

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<v Speaker 1>with making that happens book.

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<v Speaker 3>So Lueirasier was penctralive.

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<v Speaker 4>General.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I guess a really.

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<v Speaker 1>President naib Bukele. My dad loves to tease my mom

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<v Speaker 1>about how much she loves him. In twenty nineteen, naib

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<v Speaker 1>Bukele became president of El Salvador and the sole focus

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<v Speaker 1>of his administration was getting rid of the gangs to

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<v Speaker 1>make El Salvador a safe place to live, and in

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<v Speaker 1>large part he has done that. There is finally peace

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<v Speaker 1>in El Salvador, but the price for that piece has

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<v Speaker 1>been very, very steep. I'm Jasmine Romero and this is

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<v Speaker 1>sacred Scandal. Nation of Saints episode ten the Future. On

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<v Speaker 1>a hot summer morning in twenty nineteen, a then thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven year old Naive Bugle walks across the steps of

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<v Speaker 1>the National Palace in San Salvador. It's across the plaza

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<v Speaker 1>from La Catrel, the cathedral where Oscar Romero's funeral was held,

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<v Speaker 1>and just like that day almost forty years ago, the

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<v Speaker 1>plaza is filled with Salvadorans, but this time they're not

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<v Speaker 1>crying tears of mourning. They're openly weeping with tears of joy.

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<v Speaker 1>Bukele has a thick black beard and slicked back hair.

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<v Speaker 1>He stands smiling before his adoring crowd, and he's wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>in a blue and white sash that's emblazoned with the

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<v Speaker 1>crest of the Salvadoran flag. This young man has just

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<v Speaker 1>become the first person to win the Salvadoran presidency as

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<v Speaker 1>part of a new party, No Lessivas, No Ideas, and

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<v Speaker 1>this party it's important for a lot of reasons, but

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<v Speaker 1>mainly because it's considered an alternative to the two parties

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<v Speaker 1>that have been in power since the end of the war.

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<v Speaker 1>The FMLN and ARENA have taken turns running the government

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<v Speaker 1>since nineteen ninety two, and both sides have been charged

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<v Speaker 1>with corruption. Presidents from both parties have been convicted of

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<v Speaker 1>embezzling millions of dollars, all while the country plunged further

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<v Speaker 1>and further into gang controlled violence. And so, in many ways,

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<v Speaker 1>Bouken's rise is seen as a rejection of the politics

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<v Speaker 1>of the war embrace of a newer, more relevant kind

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<v Speaker 1>of politics. So on this sunny day, Bucele steps up

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<v Speaker 1>to the mic like a preacher on the pulpit to

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<v Speaker 1>address the nation.

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<v Speaker 3>Nostro pays is common inia fermo No sto cara toos

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<v Speaker 3>puiarlo no stock calorratos tom marga, No sto caloratoos so

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<v Speaker 3>freedom pocomermandos.

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<v Speaker 2>Familia.

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<v Speaker 1>And he tells the crowd, our country is like a

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<v Speaker 1>sick child and it's up to all of us to

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<v Speaker 1>take care of it, even if that means drinking medicina

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<v Speaker 1>a marga, bitter medicine. But the crowd doesn't flinch. They

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<v Speaker 1>love him, and it's clear to see why. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>young man with an excellent smile and a ton of charisma.

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<v Speaker 5>Nod.

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<v Speaker 1>When coming into office, Bugle's big promise to the people

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<v Speaker 1>of El Salvador was to get rid of the gangs

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<v Speaker 1>MS thirteen and Barrio gangs that had terrorized the population

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<v Speaker 1>for decades and given the country the title of murder

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<v Speaker 1>capital of the world. But to get rid of those gangs,

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<v Speaker 1>Bugle needed money, lots of it. Within six months of

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<v Speaker 1>taking office, Bugle asked the Legislative Assembly the salvador In

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<v Speaker 1>Congress to pass a two hundred million dollars spending bill.

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<v Speaker 2>To pay for.

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<v Speaker 1>Oral his plan to combat the gangs. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions about exactly how that money would

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<v Speaker 1>be used. Buchen's administration claimed that he couldn't reveal that

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<v Speaker 1>information because the plans were all top secret, and when

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't provide answers for how he would spend the money,

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<v Speaker 1>the Legislative Assembly signaled that they wouldn't pass the bill,

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<v Speaker 1>which really pissed off Bugle claimed that this was all

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<v Speaker 1>a game of dirty politics, that the members of the

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<v Speaker 1>Assembly were just working against him because he wasn't part

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<v Speaker 1>of their political parties at AA and the f MLN.

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<v Speaker 1>He told the legislatives, sent you have until this weekend

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<v Speaker 1>to get me the money or else, And by the

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<v Speaker 1>weekend the world got a taste of the bitter medicine

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<v Speaker 1>that Bugle had promised.

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<v Speaker 6>The country's soldiers entered the building while President Naib was

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<v Speaker 6>about to address lawmakers. The soldiers were armed with automatic weapons.

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<v Speaker 6>The reason for such action was to step up the

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<v Speaker 6>pressure on lawmakers to force them to back a proposed

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<v Speaker 6>plan to fight crime.

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<v Speaker 1>On February ninth, twenty twenty, Bucele stormed the Assembly building

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<v Speaker 1>with forty armed soldiers behind him to preside over the

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<v Speaker 1>voting and ensure that his bill passed. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>move straight out of an authoritarian textbook, and it made

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<v Speaker 1>headlines around the world, condemning this action as anti democratic.

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<v Speaker 7>COSEI miiuel vivanco victoria hum and RAI watch par las

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<v Speaker 7>America's opin to Kenixsimi soon for urgent organization The americanos.

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<v Speaker 8>Cordo a military military age user algo vierno.

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<v Speaker 3>Is tamos protestando ericamente tito.

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<v Speaker 2>Singressol latio.

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<v Speaker 1>But in El Salvador it drew cheering crowds. It was

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<v Speaker 1>seen as a power move by someone who was finally

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<v Speaker 1>willing to do whatever it takes to get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>the gangs. Bukele even leaned into the international fame changing

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<v Speaker 1>his Twitter bio to quote the world's coolest dictator. In

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<v Speaker 1>the end, buccell got the money that he needed and

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<v Speaker 1>he got to work executing his grand vision for Al Salvador,

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<v Speaker 1>one that included a lot of big, flashy projects. He

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<v Speaker 1>invested in the now famous Surf City, an entire beach

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<v Speaker 1>town sponsored by the government to promote El Salvador as

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<v Speaker 1>a global surf destination, And in perhaps the flashiest and

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<v Speaker 1>most confusing move, Bugle made bitcoin one of the official

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<v Speaker 1>legal currencies in El Salvador.

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<v Speaker 4>De Bitcoin lawmakers in El Salvador broke into applause after

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<v Speaker 4>voting to approve bitcoin as legal tender on Wednesday, making

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<v Speaker 4>the Central American country the first in the world to

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<v Speaker 4>fully adopt the cryptocurrency.

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<v Speaker 1>And while these things might sound a little outlandish for Salvadorans,

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<v Speaker 1>it was really a breath of fresh air. For once

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<v Speaker 1>the world was hearing a story about us that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>about gangs or death and destruction. It was something good,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least it was something different. Plus, Bucele might

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<v Speaker 1>be a little eccentric, but his plans seemed to be working.

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<v Speaker 1>Within the first two years of his presidency, the murder

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<v Speaker 1>rate dropped by fifty two percent. To be fair, the

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<v Speaker 1>murder rate had already been on the decline since it's

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<v Speaker 1>high in twenty fifteen, but still, even for people living

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<v Speaker 1>in the US, people like my parents, the progress Bugele

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<v Speaker 1>was making was clear.

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<v Speaker 5>El siempre siempre quiso di questuviera el pa mejor peroo pora.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, my parents had always wanted to come back to Alsavor,

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<v Speaker 1>and while my dad was a little more cavalier about

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<v Speaker 1>the threat of gang violence, my mom was more fearful.

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<v Speaker 1>She worried about being extorted or threatened. But with the

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<v Speaker 1>progress that Bugele was making, my mom finally felt confident

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<v Speaker 1>enough to sell their home in the United States, and

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty one they moved to San Miguel permanently,

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<v Speaker 1>to the house that they had spent a lifetime building.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty twenty one is also the year that Bugele's party

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<v Speaker 1>Novasiveas overwhelmingly won seats in the Legislative Assembly, and that

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<v Speaker 1>Legislative Assembly promptly voted to oust five sitting Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>justices and basically got the entire judicial branch of the government.

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<v Speaker 1>In doing so, cases across the country were dropped in

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<v Speaker 1>an instant, including one seeking justice for the victims of Elmosote.

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<v Speaker 1>But again this move drew cheers from many, as Bugle

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<v Speaker 1>insisted that these were necessary steps to weed out corruption

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<v Speaker 1>and fight the gangs. With the murder rate under control

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<v Speaker 1>and the country rapidly drawing more bitcoin and surf tourists,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like Bugel could do no wrong. That is

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<v Speaker 1>until the weekend of March twenty seventh of twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 9>Tonight about that is under state of emergency after a

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<v Speaker 9>deadly weekend of gang violence, the National Civil Police reporting

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<v Speaker 9>fourteen people murdered on Friday and sixty two the following day,

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<v Speaker 9>making Saturday one of the deadliest days in thirty years.

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<v Speaker 10>Over two thousand arrests made in just four days in

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<v Speaker 10>response to one of the bloodiest weekends in the country

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<v Speaker 10>in thirty years, the National Civil Police reporting sixty two

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<v Speaker 10>homicides on Saturday alone.

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<v Speaker 1>All over the country, there were reports of murders and

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<v Speaker 1>not gang shootouts, seemingly random murders. In the span of

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<v Speaker 1>a weekend, eighty seven people were killed in El Salvador.

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<v Speaker 1>One body was even hauntingly laid out on the road

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<v Speaker 1>to Bucelees, surf city, after the break the message behind these.

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<v Speaker 9>Murders Tonight, El Salvador is under state of emergency after

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<v Speaker 9>a deadly weekend of gang violence.

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<v Speaker 1>After all the progress made, it really felt like a

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<v Speaker 1>slap in the face for Salvadorans to have the deadliest

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<v Speaker 1>weekend on record in more than a century. These murders

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<v Speaker 1>were of seemingly innocent civilians, and all the reports signaled

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<v Speaker 1>that they were carried out by gang members, gangs that

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<v Speaker 1>President Bugle claimed to have under control. The murders seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be a direct message aimed at the president himself,

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<v Speaker 1>news that he did not take lightly.

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<v Speaker 3>Las amb Salvador solicitude the president and najib rehimen deception

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<v Speaker 3>an alpais queda palo el projecto treto ke containing rejimeng

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<v Speaker 3>de escepsion.

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<v Speaker 1>In an emergency session of the Legislative Assembly, Bukele called

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<v Speaker 1>for unestallo de excepcion, a state of exception. What Bukele

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<v Speaker 1>was asking for was an immediate suspension of civil liberties

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<v Speaker 1>once guaranteed in the constitution, so that he could declare

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<v Speaker 1>all out war on the gangs, and with his party

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<v Speaker 1>controlling judicial and legislative branches, the state of exception easily passed.

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<v Speaker 1>Within that state of exception, the government could now arrest

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<v Speaker 1>anyone for any reason. There would be no presumption of innocence,

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<v Speaker 1>no need for warrants, and no guarantee for when you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be released. Agents of the state could come and pick

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<v Speaker 1>you up on the mere suspicion that you were a

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<v Speaker 1>gang member. Bukelet also approved the use of deadly force

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<v Speaker 1>for officers of the state. Overnight, billboards went up across

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<v Speaker 1>the country showing the number for tip lines, where you

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<v Speaker 1>could anonymously report anyone who you thought might be in

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<v Speaker 1>a gang or affiliated with one. I even saw a

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<v Speaker 1>couple on my trip on the highway there was a

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<v Speaker 1>sign listed or I guess like a billboard over the

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<v Speaker 1>highway that's said, with your tax dollars, we keep fighting

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<v Speaker 1>the gangs. And there was a phone number and it

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<v Speaker 1>said declare your rent, meaning the rent that people paid

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<v Speaker 1>monthly to the gangs to keep them from bothering them.

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<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't just gang members that they were after.

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<v Speaker 1>It was anyone who could be affiliated with the gangs.

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<v Speaker 1>You could be arrested for being a collaborator, someone suspected

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<v Speaker 1>of giving the gangs information or money, or of hiding

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<v Speaker 1>a gang member. Within days of the state of exception

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<v Speaker 1>being declared, the Bukee administration sent the police and military

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<v Speaker 1>out to conduct massive raids. Thousands of people were rounded

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<v Speaker 1>up and sent to processing centers. Children as young as

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<v Speaker 1>twelve were sent into overcrowded prison cells to await processing

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<v Speaker 1>in the now backlogged judicialsts. Between March and December of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two, over sixty thousand people were detained by

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<v Speaker 1>Bugeli's administration, and to hold all of these arrested people,

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<v Speaker 1>Bugele approved the building of a megaprison with a capacity

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<v Speaker 1>for forty thousand people, one of the largest in the world.

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<v Speaker 11>The Terrorism Confinement Center can fit up to forty thousand

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<v Speaker 11>inmates and is considered to be the largest jail in

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<v Speaker 11>the Americas.

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<v Speaker 8>The president announced that he was moving thousands of high

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<v Speaker 8>ranking gang members to the country's new so called mega jail.

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<v Speaker 11>It looks like a sea of skin and tattoos. These

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<v Speaker 11>images released by El Salvador's government shows the transfer of

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<v Speaker 11>about two thousand inmates.

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<v Speaker 1>Human rights groups around the globe criticized these actions, saying

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<v Speaker 1>that the roundups were accept that many of those detained

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<v Speaker 1>and arrested had no verifiable connection with the gangs. Tebukele

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<v Speaker 1>and his government were using the state of exception to

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<v Speaker 1>arrest and threaten those who opposed his regime, including environmental activists, journalists,

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<v Speaker 1>and academics in opposition to the administration, and that abuses

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<v Speaker 1>and death were happening within the prison system. But still

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<v Speaker 1>the Salvadoran people supported the president all over social media,

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<v Speaker 1>Salvadorans snapped back at the president's critics.

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<v Speaker 7>How can you be worried about criminals human rights?

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<v Speaker 9>They didn't care about our human rights when they killed us.

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<v Speaker 11>Anyone who criticizes the government is for the gangs and

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<v Speaker 11>should be arrested.

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<v Speaker 9>If some innocent people have to suffer to get rid

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<v Speaker 9>of the gangs, it's worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels weird to say this, but on a certain

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<v Speaker 1>level I get it. Looking across the last forty years

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<v Speaker 1>at how much the Salvadoran people have suffered. What price

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't they be willing to pay for peace, for a

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<v Speaker 1>chance that their children could grow up in safety. And anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the gangs who provoked him, right, They're the

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<v Speaker 1>ones who killed almost one hundred people in a weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Well as it turns out.

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<v Speaker 12>For the mostly Confianza.

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<v Speaker 8>But miyao, mi mono.

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<v Speaker 1>What you're hearing is a conversation between a senior member

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bugle administration and a leader of MS thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember in twenty twenty one when the murder rate dropped

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<v Speaker 1>by fifty percent. Well, as it turns out, that's because

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<v Speaker 1>Bugle had a pact with the gangs basedummer reporting by

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<v Speaker 1>the Salvador news outlet El Faro. In exchange for lowering

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<v Speaker 1>the murdery, the Bukele administration agreed to give preferential treatment

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<v Speaker 1>to high ranking gang members in prison. That's what this

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<v Speaker 1>conversation we're listening to is about, Antossente Royer. In the recording,

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<v Speaker 1>a Bugle official is talking to a gang leader and

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<v Speaker 1>telling them how much their administration has done to show

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<v Speaker 1>them its loyalty and good faith, and he even admits

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<v Speaker 1>to personally escorting a gang leader named Elgruk from his

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<v Speaker 1>prison cell in El Salvador across the border to freedom

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<v Speaker 1>in Guatemala. It was the breakdown of these negotiations that

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<v Speaker 1>led to the spike in murders during that deadly weekend

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<v Speaker 1>in March of twenty twenty two. The reactions to this

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<v Speaker 1>news from the public have varied. Some of Bukeli's supporters

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<v Speaker 1>say that the news is fake, that Ilfaro is simply

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<v Speaker 1>against the president and working in service of the gangs.

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<v Speaker 1>Others say that the president was justified in doing whatever

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<v Speaker 1>he needed to do to get rid of the gangs,

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<v Speaker 1>even if that includes these kinds of negotiations. Either way,

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<v Speaker 1>the reports of these negotiations didn't affect the president's approval ratings,

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<v Speaker 1>which are currently around ninety two percent. In September of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two, as Bugel was nearing the end of

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<v Speaker 1>his term as president, he decided to address the country

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<v Speaker 1>for a special announcement. The venue stood in stark contrast

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<v Speaker 1>to the sunny morning when he took office. Instead of

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<v Speaker 1>the open steps of the National Palace, the announcement took

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<v Speaker 1>place in a darkened conference room well into the night.

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<v Speaker 1>In place of the adoring crowds, a small group of

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<v Speaker 1>well dressed officials and foreign dignitaries stood clapping, welcoming Bugle

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<v Speaker 1>to take his place at the dais. Behind the president

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<v Speaker 1>is a towering portrait of a man dressed in white

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<v Speaker 1>robes with a cross necklace draped across his chest. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a portrait of a man with some seriously enviable eyebrows,

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<v Speaker 1>whose face carries the weight of the entire salvadorn people.

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<v Speaker 1>The man, of course, is Oscar Romero, who was named

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<v Speaker 1>saint in twenty eighteen. President Bucele steps in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the portrait of Oscar Romero and proceeds to tell the

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<v Speaker 1>audience that he plans to run for president once again.

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<v Speaker 3>Esporeso quefamilia ano esi correcom candiato a preci.

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<v Speaker 1>The audience collaps. No one is surprised, despite the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that this move goes directly against the constitution of El Salvador.

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<v Speaker 1>According to that constitution, no president is allowed to remain

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<v Speaker 1>in office for two consecutive terms. To run again is

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<v Speaker 1>the equivalent of an American president running for a third time.

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<v Speaker 1>But Bugele doesn't care. With the support of so much

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<v Speaker 1>of the Salvadoran population behind him, he knows that this

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<v Speaker 1>rule doesn't apply to him, and he's right. The unconstitutionality

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<v Speaker 1>won't matter, and in February of twenty twenty four, Bugele

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<v Speaker 1>easily wins his second term. With his win, he controls

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<v Speaker 1>all three branches of government, such all the power in

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<v Speaker 1>El Salvador outside a full military guard stands at attention.

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<v Speaker 1>Since implementing the state of exception, almost ninety thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>have been arrested in Al Salvador. At least two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and forty people have died in police custody, and while

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<v Speaker 1>the murder rate is now one of the lowest in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, reports of disappearances are up, and it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to get a solid number on exactly how many because

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Bugeli's administration has changed the way it counts disappearances, but

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<v Speaker 1>human rights organizations say that there are over twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>thousand cases of disappearances currently open in El Salvador. After

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<v Speaker 1>making this series and seeing how much death and destruction

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<v Speaker 1>came from the hands of the government, Bugeles rise is

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<v Speaker 1>really scary to me. Salvador in history is full of

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>governments using order as a justification for horrendous acts of violence.

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 1>There are always innocent people who are collateral damage, whether

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<v Speaker 1>they're peasants or priests, or student activists or my Dia Margarita.

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<v Speaker 1>I went on this journey to understand my family and

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<v Speaker 1>our history, and over the course of the last two years,

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<v Speaker 1>I've realized that our story isn't just ours. It's the

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>story of a country and a history that's too easy

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>to repeat. Seeing the military on our streets, searching people

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 1>at bus stops, arresting people with impunity, it all just

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<v Speaker 1>looks like the start of the same cycle over again.

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<v Speaker 1>But my mom, she sees it differently.

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 5>With Mirida Tingos Struta Viatopor Nadi Nipo, al kal Nipur

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<v Speaker 5>presidentes Piro alfink Pusami Esperanza, sen Al yinqus Promtiplin though

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<v Speaker 5>he is naibuke.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom had never voted in a savador In election

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<v Speaker 1>before twenty nineteen. Since she left the country as a teenager,

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<v Speaker 1>she's watched a government after government come in and failed

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<v Speaker 1>to protect its own people, first the death squads and

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<v Speaker 1>the war, and then the gangs. After spending a lifetime

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for Al Savador to be safe, the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>Bukela has made the country livable for her is enough

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<v Speaker 1>to win her love and support.

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<v Speaker 5>Ike boys.

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<v Speaker 1>In a world where you have to choose between freedom

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<v Speaker 1>and safety, safety wins every time. Al Savor now holds

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<v Speaker 1>the title for the country with the highest incarceration rate

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<v Speaker 1>per capita in the world, and bus approval rating has

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<v Speaker 1>never been higher. My mom is part of the ninety

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<v Speaker 1>two percent of Salvadorans who say they approve of the

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 1>president's actions. On one of my last days in al Savador,

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<v Speaker 1>my parents decided that we should take a trip to

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<v Speaker 1>a nearby beach, Elkuco. It's about a thirty minute drive

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<v Speaker 1>away from my parents' house. My mom called up Mitiavilma

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<v Speaker 1>to see if she wanted to come too, and she

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<v Speaker 1>said yes, but only if she could bring along my

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<v Speaker 1>little cousin, Anguel Jokin. He's seven and he rarely gets

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to go to the beach. Angueil Jokin's mother,

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<v Speaker 1>my cousin Carmen, is in prison for being in a gang.

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 1>His father is too. Back when Mitia Margarrita died, Mitiavilma

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<v Speaker 1>took in her kids and now she's raising a new

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>generation of kids left behind, including Angheljokin. We all pile

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 1>into my dad's pickup truck and head off to Alkugo.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember trips like this when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time we came to visit. We had to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Alkugo and need some fresh fish and play in

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 1>the warm ocean water. The beach is different now there

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 1>are more resorts and the streets are better paved, but

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>it's still full of old men coming in with the

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 1>catch of the day and little brown children playing in

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<v Speaker 1>the sand.

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<v Speaker 12>It's one nineteen in the afternoon and I'm at Elcucouco.

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<v Speaker 12>She's the closest beach to my family's house in San Miguel,

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<v Speaker 12>is about a thirty forty minute drive, and I'm here

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<v Speaker 12>with my aunts and my cousin. The beach is beautiful.

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<v Speaker 12>The water is like backwater. You keep walking and walking

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<v Speaker 12>and it doesn't pass your knees. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>As we walk down the beach, I noticed a pickup

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<v Speaker 1>truck that's driving down along the water. The truck parks

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<v Speaker 1>and four men hop out of the back.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>This is surprising. Four guys and for four soldiers and

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<v Speaker 1>full fatigues and rifles, just just scrolling down the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>The soldiers are wearing helmets, boots, and carrying what looked

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>like M sixteen rifles. As they walk past us, I

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 1>can see that they're inspecting us. They linger for a moment,

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 1>but then they continue to walk down the beach. Their

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 1>boots leave heavy footprints in the sand. As of this recording,

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 1>the state of Exception in El Salvador has been renewed

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:31.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty six times. There is no timeline for when civil

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>liberties will be re established, and until the state of

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 1>exception is dropped, El Salvador will in essence be a

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>police state, one where there is safety but not freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>After a good meal of biscalo and some time laying

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 1>in the hammock, it's time to go. As the sun

0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>starts to set, we start packing up to make the

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 1>drive back to San Miguel. But before we go, I

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<v Speaker 1>decide to take one last step in the water, and

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<v Speaker 1>I ask my little cousin, ang uell Joaquin if he

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>wants to come to He smiles a big, gap toothed

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 1>grin and takes off running for the water. I catch

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 1>up to him and hold his hand. As we run

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 1>towards the water. I watch his little feet pound the

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:37.240
<v Speaker 1>sand as he dives headfirst into the waves. In another lifetime,

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 1>this boy might have been conscripted into the army or

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 1>into the Geria. He might have left his family to

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<v Speaker 1>travel north and cross a river, or stayed home and

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 1>become a marero, a foot soldier in a street gang.

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>These pathways are still possible, but for now he can

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>be what he is, a little boy enjoying a day

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 1>in the sun with his cousin from the States. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the future will bring for Al Salvador,

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<v Speaker 1>how long Bugel will be in office. I don't know

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 1>what Anguel Joaquin's future will be. But at least for now,

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 1>there is a future to dream of. There is hope

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 1>for what this boy might become, for what this place

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:33.280
<v Speaker 1>might become.

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<v Speaker 2>And Anghel Hacquin is having a good time. Raby there Ahala.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're interested in learning more about Bukele and the

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 1>current state of El Salvador, I highly recommend you check

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<v Speaker 1>out the podcast buke fromos and Umo Murder and Silence

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<v Speaker 1>in El Salvador from Sonoro. If you've enjoyed our show,

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<v Speaker 1>week in a special conversation with one of the people

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<v Speaker 1>who sent me on this journey, Salvador in American comedian Marcelo.

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<v Speaker 1>Sacred Scandal. Nation of Saints is a production of a

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<v Speaker 1>HA podcast in partnership with Iheart's Mikultura podcast network and

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<v Speaker 1>is hosted and written by me Jasmine Romero. Produced by

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<v Speaker 1>Jasmine Romero with help from Alvaro Sespelez. Research and reporting

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<v Speaker 1>by Jasmine Romero, edited by sare Kevelo. Nation of Saints

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<v Speaker 1>was recorded in New York City at the Relic Room

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<v Speaker 1>with engineering by Sam Bear, mixing and sound designed by Paciquinones.

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<v Speaker 1>Original music by Golden Mines, Darko and Dieme based on

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Hart's original composition. Fact checking by Erendira Aquino Ayala.

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<v Speaker 1>Executive producers are Carman gerterol isaac Lee Rose Reed, and

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<v Speaker 1>Nando Villa. Our executive producers at iHeart are Giselle Mances

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<v Speaker 1>and Arlene Santana. Sacred Scandal was created by Melanie Bartley

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<v Speaker 1>and Paula Vadros. For more podcasts, go to the iHeartRadio

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