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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we love our afternoon tea.

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Speaker 2: I am Greg Rosenthal here.

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Speaker 3: In the top sports studios in London, joined by my

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Speaker 3: friends over in Los Angeles and the Chris Westling podcast studio,

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Speaker 3: Patrick Clayban, Jordan Rodrigue, and Steve Weisch.

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Speaker 2: This isn't going to be awkward at all. Guys.

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Speaker 4: Why would it be awkward. We've spent a whole pandemic

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Speaker 4: doing all this zoom discussion and everything. This is this

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Speaker 4: is life.

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Speaker 5: Now it's awkward because Greg still has converted the US

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Speaker 5: dollar to pounds.

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Speaker 6: He's still trying to figure that part out.

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Speaker 1: I can be awkward on any continent I want to be.

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Speaker 1: And yes, this is NFL Daily. If you're just joining

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Speaker 1: the preview show, we break it up between the AFC

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Speaker 1: and the NFC home teams, and this week we're going

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Speaker 1: to do the AFC teams first. We're four across, We've

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Speaker 1: gotten through just about a quarter of the season. I

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Speaker 1: feel like we have things to say and big games

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Speaker 1: to get to.

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Speaker 4: All the biggest games and the most things to say.

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Speaker 4: And if you're a fan of the NFC, well, wanting

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Speaker 4: for teams is featured right here. The Washington Commanders coming

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Speaker 4: across Solosa status, who needos, who play the Los Angeles Chargers,

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Speaker 4: who were favored by three points.

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Speaker 6: The over under is forty eight and a half.

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Speaker 4: You know this game is big because Kevin Burkhart, Tom Brady,

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Speaker 4: Aaron Andrews, and Tom Rinaldi are on the call. Greg,

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Speaker 4: we were you were afraid.

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Speaker 6: You're like, it's.

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Speaker 4: Tough to throw my heart between behind this Chargers team

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Speaker 4: because bad things happen to the Chargers.

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Speaker 6: Well, they've started to happen. Where do you stand right now?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think it was a response to Jordan calling

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Speaker 1: them the best team in the league. They just had

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Speaker 1: to take the pressure off that was like a little

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Speaker 1: too much for the Chargers to handle. We learned as

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Speaker 1: we talked about our last year that Joe All is

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Speaker 1: going to be out for this game, and that makes

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Speaker 1: me wonder kind of something more big picture. I'm wondering

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Speaker 1: what you guys think about this Washington defense. I know

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Speaker 1: we'll get to the offense, which is gonna have Jade

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Speaker 1: and Daniels back. By all appearances, watching their defense lately,

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Speaker 1: it's almost like they got freaked out by the first

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks of the season. They want to be

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Speaker 1: an aggressive man coverage team and Joe Witt and dan

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Speaker 1: Quinn is gonna throw all this different stuff at you.

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Speaker 1: And I've noticed the last couple of weeks they've been

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Speaker 1: much more conservative. They're kind of hanging back. Their bla,

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Speaker 1: their pass rush is blah. It's almost like they're afraid

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Speaker 1: now of giving up these big plays. And I wonder

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Speaker 1: with this matchup whether they'll get back to kind of

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Speaker 1: being the fun, aggressive Washington defense.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think in the case of some of the matchups,

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Speaker 7: it's just it was smarter to play zone. They were

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Speaker 7: coming right off that Gino game where they not last

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Speaker 7: week here Greg is everyone Holy cow, they were a

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Speaker 7: mess last week.

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Speaker 2: That's all I mean.

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Speaker 7: Okay, No, a couple of weeks ago when they you know,

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Speaker 7: everyone thought dan Quinn was going to stay in zone

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Speaker 7: playing against like Gino Smith and all of those types

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Speaker 7: of matchups, you know, it actually was smarter to play

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Speaker 7: Geno in zone based off what the Chargers themselves just

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Speaker 7: had done a week previously. So yeah, you can ramp

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Speaker 7: up and get a little bit more aggressive, especially if

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Speaker 7: you're going to test this Chargers front minus Joe al

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Speaker 7: also minus as of now, Mackai Becton because he's still

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Speaker 7: in the concussion protocol. So it's a lot of backups

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Speaker 7: all along that front. They're only intact, is what Zion

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Speaker 7: Johnson at left guard and Bradley Boseman at center, and

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Speaker 7: they hadn't really made a lot of moves, you know,

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Speaker 7: in order to fix you know, fix that in the

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Speaker 7: off season, which is one of the frustrating points I

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Speaker 7: think for some of the media members in this market.

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Speaker 7: Here sort of commenting on that this week, I think

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Speaker 7: the Commanders will get out in testom early, not just

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Speaker 7: look pretty solid, kind of hovering at the middle and

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Speaker 7: pressure and sacks right now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what they've done is they built their their defensive

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Speaker 5: front to be better on first down. They're terrible against

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Speaker 5: the run last year on first down, so that's what

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Speaker 5: they've done. So obvious spect the Chargers come on, throw

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Speaker 5: the ball in first down a little bit, and your boy,

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Speaker 5: Frankie Louvo is gonna be coming through that.

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Speaker 6: A and BF all day long.

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Speaker 5: Based on some of the issues that they're having, They're

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Speaker 5: front look, but a lot of odd front numbers, mathematics.

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Speaker 6: I don't they're gonna and back end. They're playing zone.

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Speaker 5: They're not gonna let your boy Justin Herbert get out

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Speaker 5: and run the ball in man coverage. So I'm interested

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Speaker 5: to see, you know, how how Washington's offensive line is

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Speaker 5: gonna hold up. I think they've been a little spotty too.

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Speaker 5: And Jaden coming back, he covers up some of the

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Speaker 5: stuff because my guy twuly Twey up below two, who's

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Speaker 5: been playing his tailoff right, and so he's gonna be

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Speaker 5: a problem. They've they've gotta they've got to watch out.

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Speaker 5: This is gonna be a really good game. I like

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Speaker 5: the three number with the Chargers. I think I think

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Speaker 5: Washington covers, but I don't know coming all the way across,

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Speaker 5: as you said, the country. If if they get the

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Speaker 5: w here, this is gonna be a good game because

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Speaker 5: Washington's been real jeckying.

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Speaker 4: Hide they have, but they've managed to hold one of

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Speaker 4: the top scoring offenses and terms of points per game

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Speaker 4: even without Jayden after these last two games. Now, some

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Speaker 4: perhaps and take a closer look at the way they've performed.

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Speaker 6: But the Chargers.

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Speaker 4: It popped out to me they've missed tackles at one

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Speaker 4: considering how like good they've been in coverage. There's spots

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Speaker 4: And then Bobby Wagner hasn't missed the tackle all season,

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Speaker 4: which is like something we've come to expect. But I

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Speaker 4: just want to acknowledge that Bobby Wagner is still still dealing,

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Speaker 4: still playing to that extent. With Dan Quinn playing so

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Speaker 4: much nickel and everybody's is obviously the twenty twenty five NFL,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna play a lot of nickel. But when you

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Speaker 4: have Bobby Wagner and being able to play the way

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Speaker 4: that he does, that's the that's the bright spot. I

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Speaker 4: am concerned about Max Sandras still in some other spots

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Speaker 4: in this secondary where Marshun Lattimore got targeted a lot.

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Speaker 5: Man people this week. Teams are going after him, Teams

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Speaker 5: are going after him. You know, I don't know if

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Speaker 5: that Hamstaker is still bother him, but that Giddy being

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Speaker 5: giddy and up like it used to, its teams are recognized.

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Speaker 4: So maybe a chance for because I know, especially in

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Speaker 4: the fantasy community, people have wondered where Ladd has been

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Speaker 4: Obviously like QJ breaking out and teams being focused on Lade.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's gonna happen at some point. This feels

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Speaker 4: like the spot for the Ladd McConkie twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 7: I think he's he's going to be a tough cover

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Speaker 7: in the middle of field, and either you're going to

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Speaker 7: send Frankie Lufu on pressure or you're going to send

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Speaker 7: him to try to help with some of this coverage

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Speaker 7: That is one thing I will compliment you know, I

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Speaker 7: did jinx the Chargers, apologies to the Chargers, but that

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Speaker 7: is another that's something I really will compliment them on

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Speaker 7: is they actually have a lot of multiplicity at receiver

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Speaker 7: and they've got depth at receiver with guys that can

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Speaker 7: challenge your perimeter corners. And then this does open it

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Speaker 7: up for Ladd McConkie to potentially break out. But I

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Speaker 7: think we're kind of we're burying the biggest lead, which

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Speaker 7: is Jada Daniels being yack yeah, And I'm curious how

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Speaker 7: much he will actually run. I feel like the entire

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Speaker 7: Commanders offense and Cliff Kingsbury and Jade and Daniels especially

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Speaker 7: is watching, you know, Jackson Dart of all people, carve

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Speaker 7: up the or the Chargers defense on the ground and

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Speaker 7: find these big creases to run through, these big lanes

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Speaker 7: to attack. Jade and Daniels is one of the best

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Speaker 7: in the NFL at knowing, picking his spots, understanding how

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Speaker 7: he can challenge a defense like that, And I'm just

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Speaker 7: curious how much they'll cut him loose and let him

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Speaker 5: My old thing is if your boy Cliff is going

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Speaker 5: to run the football, got that it's a trigger finger

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Speaker 5: to throw it. Run the football. I mean they've shown

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Speaker 5: you know that they can run it. We've seen some

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Speaker 5: can run the football. Terry McLaurin, he's still if he

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Speaker 5: if he's gonna play this game, they got to run

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Speaker 6: They want to have a shot.

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Speaker 5: And we know dayon Henley there's great of a lot

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Speaker 5: the linebacker playing this game as insane Henley for the Chargers, Greg,

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Speaker 5: he's also a good spy in case Jayden wants to

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Speaker 5: go ahead and take off and run.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're one of the best running teams in

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Speaker 1: the league. Bill Is, I think as fun a running

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Speaker 1: back that gets extra yards as anyone, and they were

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Speaker 1: running when they wanted to all over Atlanta. It is

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Speaker 1: funny to think in this matchup, like which coordinator will

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Speaker 1: actually run enough? Because Jesse Minner, I know, was this

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Speaker 2: He just refused to get out of that defense.

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Speaker 1: And he took a lot of criticism too, because they

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Speaker 1: were just like, Okay, you're gonna give us five yards

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Speaker 2: So I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: It's so weird to be criticizing him and both in

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Speaker 1: Greg Roman for not running the ball enough.

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Speaker 2: Like the forty one.

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Speaker 1: Plays that they started last week, the first forty one

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Speaker 1: was close, they ran at six times and Omario and

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Speaker 1: Hampton looks like a total beat looks as good as

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Speaker 1: almost any running back in the league. Every time he

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Speaker 1: and yet they just refuse to run the ball.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's gonna be, yeah, who can run

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And I do to that point, who can run

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Speaker 7: the ball a little better? I think Washington will be,

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Speaker 7: you know, running it even more with even more frequency.

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Speaker 7: John Bates might be back this week. He's expended to

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Speaker 7: one of the key elements of their run game that

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Speaker 7: makes it function the way it does out of that

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Speaker 7: heavier personnel. So I do think that they're going to

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Speaker 7: come out and try to see how well the Chargers

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Speaker 7: can try to stop the run, not just from their

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Speaker 7: front with their back, but also with Jayden Daniels.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I just can't wait to see Anthony Lynch strong

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Speaker 6: arm and cliff on.

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Speaker 4: The ball.

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Speaker 7: We're running it him at a headlock on the side.

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Speaker 4: They're averaging a full point three yards better this season

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Speaker 4: and runs to the left behind Laramie Tunsel. So as

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Speaker 4: folks in Houston are considering, like, wait, what you know

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Speaker 7: It's it's not going unnoticed, just to say, I.

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Speaker 1: Just hope they play well in this game, that it

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, Jordan, Like, there was something about Xavier

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Speaker 1: It's like, when was the last time we actually saw

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Speaker 4: Yeah, congratulations to the Kansas City Chiefs and surmounting the

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Speaker 5: I like how you said Duvall, Hey, Gregor the jag

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Speaker 1: I did see a lot of Jaguars jerseys over in Dublin,

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Speaker 1: It is pretty rare to see ten twenty thousand empty

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Speaker 7: Last Cautiously optimistic is what I would use after watching

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Speaker 6: I like that number forty six and a half. I'm

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Speaker 6: Playing his butt off in this scheme.

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Speaker 7: He looks awesome.

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Speaker 6: Leave him alone, Patrick, Leave him alone.

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Speaker 4: The Houston Texans are favored by two and a half

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Speaker 6: He's good. He's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean those those two things similar, similar categories

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Speaker 7: to like just catch a breath for a second, start

438
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Speaker 7: to put together a little bit more of this plan

439
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Speaker 7: for this offense. We saw it what in one quarter

440
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Speaker 7: one half last week. Okay, do it against a depleted

441
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Speaker 7: defense that is playing too loose and giving up too much,

442
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Speaker 7: and then I'll believe that you really found a spark

443
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Speaker 7: last week.

444
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

445
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Speaker 4: I'm just banking on the team that has tried and

446
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 4: been able to over the past few years to do

447
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,679
Speaker 4: so many different things on offense, to focus on executing

448
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:49,160
Speaker 4: just in the pure fundamentals of the game without clearly

449
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Speaker 4: like if you know, I appreciate Greg being hopeful that

450
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 4: Lamar plays in this game, I'm out on that considering

451
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Speaker 4: the way that the game happens with you, because if

452
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Speaker 4: he could have played against the Chiefs like average Harbal

453
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Speaker 4: said he would have played in the game, and going

454
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Speaker 4: back and watching that game, like the interception by Leo

455
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Speaker 4: Chanel where the Chiefs send the blitz and Derek Henry's

456
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 4: picking up Drew trankwill and Fallele is blocking absolutely nobody.

457
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 4: He's He's spinning around looking for somebody while Lamar is

458
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 4: trying to get the ball to Mark Andrews and Chanelle

459
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Speaker 4: picks it off. And there's so many plays like that

460
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Speaker 4: where the assignments any people will forget more about offensive

461
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,959
Speaker 4: line play than I'll ever learn in my entire life.

462
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Speaker 4: But the unit just hasn't seemed to be able to

463
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Speaker 4: operate in the past game. And so much is on eight,

464
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Speaker 4: which is always going to be on eight. But let's

465
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Speaker 4: let's go back to prom Derrick Henry hopeless Titans team.

466
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Speaker 4: You knew he was going to get the ball twenty

467
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Speaker 4: seven times. That's that's the only thing that I can

468
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 4: try to look forward to in this game because having

469
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Speaker 4: that defense on the field is a recipe for a

470
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Speaker 4: bad Sunday.

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Speaker 5: And let's not forget ro Quand Smith and Marlin Yeah

472
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Speaker 5: it's are are not playing. I mean they're out for

473
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Speaker 5: a while. On top of that's up the middle non

474
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Speaker 5: de matic week A, ro qwand Smith, Marlon Humphrey plays

475
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Speaker 5: in and out like that is a bad That's what

476
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Speaker 5: I'm saying to me. This game will tell us everything

477
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 5: we need to know about the Texans offense, they've looked

478
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Speaker 5: terrible and if they don't look better this game, this isn't.

479
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Speaker 6: Gonna be it.

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Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, exactly, It's a.

481
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Speaker 2: It's a get out of jail free card, though.

482
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Speaker 1: Steve like, even if they just look okay to bad

483
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Speaker 1: in this game, but get out of there with the

484
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Speaker 1: win because you're playing Cooper Rush and the one of

485
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Speaker 1: the worst defenses, if not the worst defense in league.

486
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Speaker 1: They do get their bye week. I feel like maybe

487
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Speaker 1: it's the schedule. God's helping them out. Titans and then

488
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Speaker 1: banged up Ravens back to back weeks before the bye.

489
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Speaker 1: Can you reset after that because the schedule is very tough.

490
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Speaker 1: After that, you have at Seattle and you have the

491
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Speaker 1: forty nine ers and the Broncos and the Jaguars all

492
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Speaker 1: in a row, these really great defenses. So you're right point,

493
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Speaker 1: it'll show up. I think I think it'll be more

494
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Speaker 1: Woody Marx wood Marks a good last Yeah, I think

495
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Speaker 1: Nick Schubb is a good compliment maybe to Woody Marks.

496
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Speaker 1: And you look at the success rates of NFL teams

497
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Speaker 1: in terms of rushing, it won't surprise you that the

498
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Speaker 1: Texans are twenty seventh. It does surprise me that the

499
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Speaker 1: Ravens with Lamar Jackson and Dereck Henry on the field

500
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Speaker 1: are twenty ninth, and that's in design runs. It's not

501
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Speaker 1: counting the Lamar Jackson scrambles. So like the Dereck Henry

502
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 1: game is not really working. He's hitting some big plays,

503
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Speaker 1: but on a down and down basis, it has not

504
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Speaker 1: been working.

505
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Speaker 7: Woody Marx had a couple nice reps of pass pro

506
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Speaker 7: last week. That'll get him on the field fast too.

507
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Speaker 2: All Right, it's time to take a quick break. That's

508
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 2: three games down. We will be back with a little

509
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Speaker 2: more ugly football. Jets Cowboys back on NFL daily.

510
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Speaker 1: And yes, six days into my sojourn Overseas, my mind

511
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: is completely mush.

512
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Speaker 2: That's also true.

513
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Speaker 1: Of how I felt at the end of that Cowboys game,

514
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: like watching that on replayed, like don't know what the

515
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: heck happened there. They are going to MetLife Stadium this week,

516
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Speaker 1: and I'm stuck between a rock and a hart place

517
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Speaker 1: here Patrick, because you know, on game debut I have

518
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: incorrectly predicted the Jets will win for four straight weeks.

519
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: It's become almost a bit and this is a tough

520
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: one because I truly do believe Dak Prescott is playing

521
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Speaker 1: quarterback at the highest level of any quarterback in the NFL.

522
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 1: I put Josh Allen right there, but those would be

523
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Speaker 1: my two. So to pick against a quarterback that good again,

524
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Speaker 1: you know for a team that hasn't won a game

525
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: will be different.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're picking against the guy down the sideline. The

527
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 4: dack's looking at it, inspiring him to score all those touchdowns.

528
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Speaker 6: It's Patt Eberflus.

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Speaker 4: The Dallas Cowboys are three point favorites at the New

530
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Speaker 4: York Jets the over under his forty seven and a half.

531
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Speaker 4: Jason Benetti, g Rag and Pam Oliver on the call.

532
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 4: Steve As we've seen the Jets lose some heartbreakers to

533
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys. I don't even know how to describe

534
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 4: the heartbreaking tie that could have been a win because

535
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 4: the Packers made a weird clock decision at the end.

536
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,719
Speaker 4: Or it also like could George Pickens have not have scored?

537
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 4: But then like it would have been a weird finish there.

538
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Speaker 4: How do you feel about this football game?

539
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 5: I like Dallas to a point because you look at

540
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 5: what the Jets did to the Dolphins. They moved the

541
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Speaker 5: ball up and down the field, but then they went

542
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 5: back back back penalty, negative play, negative play. Offensively, they

543
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 5: got the potential to do some things against a defense.

544
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Speaker 5: It's more than kind and I'm gonna leave it that way.

545
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 5: But the self inflicted mistakes, and as much as people

546
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 5: are all over Aaron Glenn about these self inflicted mistakes,

547
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 5: this is almost in the DNA of the Green and White.

548
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 6: This has been going on for years.

549
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Speaker 5: So I don't know if it's a type of player

550
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 5: they're drafting, if it's a type of coaches they keep

551
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 5: rolling through there. But the lack of discipline in the

552
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 5: in the the mistakes they make, especially in the look

553
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 5: back last year, look back the year before, It's been

554
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 5: a nightmare for the Jets, which is why I think

555
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 5: it opens up a door for Dallas, which is like

556
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Speaker 5: I like the three, the Dallas is getting not much

557
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 5: more because I think the Jets are gonna be able

558
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 5: to moin the ball on them, but it could end

559
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 5: up being like a game like last week because this

560
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 5: great Jets defense is not shown up either. So again

561
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 5: I like Dallas in this game, but that's about a

562
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 5: soft of a pick as I'm going to make because

563
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 5: I think the Jets have it in them. But if

564
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 5: they just stop stepping on the land mines that they

565
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 5: planted themselves, they've got an opportunity to be a pretty

566
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 5: good football team.

567
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think, you know, we have some sound of

568
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 7: Breis Hall. I think he actually summed it up the

569
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 7: best this last week when he was talking about the

570
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Speaker 7: self inflicted penalties.

571
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Speaker 8: Just the tale of you know, three out of our

572
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 8: four losses, you know, teams will shoot ourselves in the

573
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Speaker 8: foot and then we come back and shoot ourselves in

574
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Speaker 8: the head. So that's been a frustrating thing because you know,

575
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Speaker 8: we're moving the ball up and on the field that

576
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 8: will how we want to or will come down and

577
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 8: you know, get to the strike zone and then boom,

578
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 8: fifteen yard penalty, ten yard penalty and teams that just

579
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 8: sit back and zone and you know you can't really

580
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 8: you know, they're willing to give up that three and

581
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 8: I give.

582
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Speaker 6: Up that seven.

583
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Speaker 8: So that was a frustrating part. Turnovers and they make

584
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 8: mistakes on you know with you know, fumbles and all

585
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 8: the all the type of stuff. Crazy penalties has just

586
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 8: been frustrated.

587
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, So thirteen penalties accepted penalties for over one hundred

588
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 7: yards last week by the Jets. And I actually kind

589
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 7: of have a hot take about the Jets penalties that

590
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 7: isn't like they were isn't like sunk into the grass

591
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 7: or the turf and the fibers of the building. A

592
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 7: lot of the penalties that I'm seeing are on alignments

593
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 7: and motions and shifts, and that's a getting used to

594
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Speaker 7: your offensive coordinator thing, and that's the quarterback and the

595
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 7: offensive line and all of the players who are in

596
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 7: motion just understanding timing better about this with the Jacksonville

597
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 7: Jaguars too, Like this was a similar thing too with

598
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Speaker 7: the Ben Johnson offense, not just with the Bears recently,

599
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 7: but back when Ben Johnson took over the Lions offense.

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Speaker 7: This is what it kind of looked like in terms

601
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 7: of some of those penalties early on, specifically with those

602
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 7: types of timing penalties. That's why I worry less about

603
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 7: the Jets in that regard. And I think the fumble stuff,

604
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 7: I mean, it changed the entire game this last week.

605
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 7: Don't get me wrong about that. The Jets had to

606
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 7: move from their aplus plan of running the ball down

607
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 7: people's throats to their C plan essentially facing that large

608
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Speaker 7: of a deit double digit deficit so early in the

609
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 7: game because the Dolphins were able to march back against

610
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Speaker 7: their defense on the other side. So I think this

611
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 7: is a points game because yes, you're still going to

612
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 7: see some of that stuff and that will get, in

613
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 7: my opinion, get cleaned up over time. And I think

614
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Speaker 7: that's going to be an emphasis this week with Aaron

615
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 7: Glenn and Tanteringstrand who comes out of that lion's tree

616
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 7: as well. And I think that to you guys's point,

617
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 7: like you're gonna see a lot of points because these

618
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 7: defenses are not played discipline, solid sound football at all.

619
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Speaker 7: They're not playing, you know, they're playing loose football, and

620
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 7: teams are getting to just do whatever they want against them.

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Speaker 7: For the most part, run in pass and I think

622
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 7: Dak and Schottenheimer together is kind of magical. And I think,

623
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Speaker 7: you know, Schottenheimer and Clayton Adams and Javonte Williams is

624
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 7: kind of magical. So I have no doubt that some

625
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 7: that you know, points and points and points will actually

626
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 7: happen in this game. We won't be able to find

627
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 7: these defenses.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're mentioning that the c plan against the Dolphins

629
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 4: being the passing attack, guess the A plan against the Cowboys.

630
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 4: The Cowboys are the number thirty two ranked pass efficiency

631
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 4: defense in the NFL. And it gets to a point

632
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 4: where it's shocking. Yeah, just that. How to see an

633
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 4: offense without C. D. Lamb go out there and play

634
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 4: against a good Packers defense and have the performance that

635
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 4: they and not able to win the game, not able

636
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 4: to have any sort of separation between them and the

637
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 4: Green Bay Packers has to be demoralizing for the guys

638
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 4: on the offensive side of the ball because I'm having

639
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 4: difficulty imagining what more they could have done and to

640
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 4: see and right, like all respect to to Jordan Love,

641
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 4: to Jeric Off. The Cowboys have played against you know,

642
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 4: some some good quarterbacks here in twenty twenty five, but

643
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 4: this is it's not sustainable.

644
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 6: No at all, three levels too, this level.

645
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 4: Rush, linebackers, secondary, bad all around.

646
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Speaker 1: Greg Well, do the Jets have a passing game that

647
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: could take advantage of the worst like these?

648
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah we'll find out. I mean they did

649
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: in Week one.

650
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Speaker 1: And shout out to Garrett Wilson, who is better I

651
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: think than he's ever been, unlike Sas Gardner, who I

652
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: think is having a rough start to his year after

653
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: getting that big contract. I think Garrett Wilson has been fantastic.

654
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Speaker 1: I feel bad for him. I feel bad you mentioned

655
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Speaker 1: that early Lion staff Jordan. I'm sort of getting more

656
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Speaker 1: of an Anthony Lynn vibe as the offensive coordinator for

657
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell and wondering It's early in the season, but

658
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: at some point Aaron Glenn is going to look at

659
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes, who was not in the NFL last year,

660
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: and how this defense has been run and it might

661
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: take till the very end of the year, and wonder like,

662
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: is this the right guy to be running my defense?

663
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: Should I be running my defense? Because it's not going

664
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: very well and that is not likely to continue with.

665
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: The assassin Dak Prescott. I didn't get to that.

666
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: Game until later in the week, and so I humbly

667
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: submit to you guys a Throw of the Year nominee

668
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: from Dak Snap's back.

669
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 6: Good block from the white, tackling rolling White.

670
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 5: Prescott throws on the run to the white side on

671
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 5: that ball hawk, Oh, please tell me he caught that.

672
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 6: Tolbert didn't catch it the same catch he did his

673
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 6: best Michael Gallop ballot the.

674
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: Five yard line.

675
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 6: Guy, don't know how Prescott got it there or how

676
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 6: Tolbert caught the ball for thirty four.

677
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to consider the situation for that moment

678
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: in the game.

679
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: It was also just a great catch, which helps.

680
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: You also got to consider like breaking expectations, Dak Prescott

681
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: doing a little more off script than you expect. He's

682
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: been doing that all year while getting like hitting the

683
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: stomach throwing at downfield.

684
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: That was amazing.

685
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 4: How do you even think of that throws unconscious?

686
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 7: It's unconscious, but that's where it was.

687
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 5: He knows he's got a receiver on that route. I mean,

688
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 5: that's just and look if he wasn't gonna catch, it

689
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 5: was going out of bounds.

690
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 6: So yeah, but that, I mean, what an incredible play.

691
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 6: Dak is playing out of his head.

692
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you're not going to find any argument on

693
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 7: that submission from me, Greg, because Nick Schuck and I

694
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 7: covered it on the Sunday Night recap and we were like,

695
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 7: we got to make sure Greg submits this to the

696
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 7: Throw of the Year and the candidacy. Okay, So I

697
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 7: really like this statistic that kind of explains Dak right

698
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 7: now that Ben Baldwin does it's called adjusted EPA and

699
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 7: basically it's adjusted DPA, but it's adjusted for past protection,

700
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 7: receiver drops, dropped interceptions, fumble recoveries, et cetera. It also

701
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 7: accounts for the defenses that the quarterback is facing. And

702
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 7: Dak Prescott is number one one. So not only not

703
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 7: only is he playing unconscious football right now, he's also

704
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 7: doing it with you know, factoring out like CD earlier

705
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 7: on the season, factoring in the fact that the Packers

706
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 7: came in with a really good defense, like it's it's

707
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 7: he's he's climbing to the top and then some. And

708
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 7: I think it's also elevating some of the playmakers and

709
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 7: skill guys around him. That all those guys really stepped

710
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 7: up for him the other night.

711
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 5: That's a hell of an analytical breakdown, by the way,

712
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 5: to take all that stuff into account, Which isn't that cool?

713
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, because there's a lot of whole lot

714
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 6: of quarterbacks who do.

715
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 7: It's my favorite quarterbacks who.

716
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 5: Did get that mercy you know there for I don't

717
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 5: think Baker Mayfield got that mercy with you.

718
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 6: He's playing with the Browns. I love it.

719
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 7: It's really cool. It's Greg's gonna really hate who's second,

720
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 7: But it's really really cool. I love context. I just

721
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 7: love context. It's awesome. Yeah, grades love context.

722
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 4: It's all we can aspire to is to fully contextualize

723
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 4: the thing that we're discussing. And looking back at that

724
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 4: throw once again, Tolbert was four yards deep in the end.

725
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 6: Zone when dak said that Tolbert's a punt returner. That

726
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 6: was a punt.

727
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, just imagination going well for rain Dakota Prescott again

728
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 4: looking forward to that game, also Breeze Hall. The analogy

729
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 4: there was very, very heavy, but they have made a

730
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 4: lot of mistakes. The Las Vegas Raiders, speaking of mistakes,

731
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 4: taking on the Indianapolis Colts, who are favored by six

732
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 4: and a half. The Colts suffered the defeat in Sofi Stadium,

733
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 4: Jordan and a fantastic game. The over under in this

734
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 4: one forty seven and a half. Chris Meyers, Mark Sanchez

735
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 4: and Christina Pink on the call. They're gonna want to

736
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 4: burn some of the tape. Do they bounce back at

737
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 4: home against the Raiders.

738
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 7: Well, one player plus his heart because I feel horrible

739
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 7: for Aidie Mitchell, but one player specifically will be the

740
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 7: one who wants to burn some of that, because I

741
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 7: think collectively the Colts still looked really, really good. Some

742
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 7: of the quick pressure or some of the all out

743
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 7: wrecking ball bulrush pressure right up the middle by Jared

744
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 7: Vers got to Daniel Jones from time to time, but

745
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 7: overall I thought he played well. And the irony of

746
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 7: this game is interesting to me because it all, it's

747
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 7: two quarterbacks and new homes. Obviously, one is working out

748
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 7: very well. The other one he's having some struggles because

749
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 7: in part he's missing some of the players around him,

750
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 7: not just up front, but also guys like Brock Bowers

751
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 7: who's been banged up for a while. And the irony

752
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 7: of it is that on the other side, the other

753
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 7: offensive sideline, Tyler Warren and Daniel Jones building that rapport

754
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 7: is showing exactly how a schemed up tight end can

755
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 7: help a quarterback, especially in a new situation. Especially surprising

756
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 7: these defenses that have not seen a lot of tape,

757
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 7: or at least only a couple games worth of tape

758
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 7: on them. And I hate it for Gino because I

759
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 7: wish that they had, that the Raiders had this available

760
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 7: to them. I wish Gino had this type of player

761
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 7: who's on the roster, but banged up in brock Bowers.

762
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 7: I wish he had this available to him.

763
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he's speaking of Gino though. I mean

764
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 6: Ashton Genty.

765
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 5: We saw him come alive last week and he was

766
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 5: somebody and we talked about it. I was a little

767
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 5: concerned with it after his first couple of games because

768
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 5: he wasn't getting a ton of toats and he was

769
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 5: physical in the first half and it wouldeem the Wayne

770
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 5: as the game went along. And now we saw as

771
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 5: the game went on here he just got better and better. Yeah,

772
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 5: so continue to feed him. The thing is this Colts

773
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 5: defensive front. I mean, I absolutely love I mean, you

774
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 5: look at the talent, but you know Grover Stewart, Quitt,

775
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 5: he pay DeForest Buck, the Latu Latu.

776
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 6: We know Zia Franklin's a tackling machine. Like this is

777
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 6: a bad matchup for the Raiders.

778
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 5: I mean just just all the way across and again

779
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 5: like Lattu is just a fantastic player, but they've got

780
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 5: depth on that front.

781
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 6: Boy Luanna Arrumo, Boy, I don't.

782
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 5: Think he was the issue. It's it's lady, now was it?

783
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 5: He went there and there got some players and he's

784
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 5: showing to do his thing. I like the Colts in

785
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 5: this game. I like the number six and a half

786
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 5: as well. It's gonna be a tough, tough run for

787
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 5: bad match Greg for you, boy, Gino.

788
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 2: They're all bad matchups right now. Actually that's not true.

789
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: I think he's played really well two games, and the

790
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: two worst starts of his entire career, including some of

791
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: those Jets starts, certainly the worst two starts since he

792
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: joined the Seahawks were the ones that everyone watched that

793
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: three interception game last week, and it's just weird. He's

794
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: holding the ball longer than he's ever held it, he's

795
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: throwing it deeper than he's ever thrown it, and he's

796
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: just not throwing it accurately. It doesn't seem like you

797
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: see in the field or liking what he's seen. He's

798
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: throwing interceptions on like the exact same play against the

799
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: exact same defense, which maybe tells you a little bit

800
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: about where they're at offensively. And I'm with you, it's

801
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: a tougher matchup than I would have expected. Steve a Lot, too,

802
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: is playing awesome. He kind of is showing why he

803
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: was the first defensive player drafted last year. I really

804
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: loved him coming out, and he's taken a little bit

805
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: to get going, but he's sweet and they don't need

806
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: to be great. I think the recipe for the Colts

807
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: is just to have an average defense.

808
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: I don't think they're great.

809
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,479
Speaker 1: I think they're probably average overall, but that's that's a

810
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 1: big upgrade from where they work. They have some holes

811
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: in their secondary, and the offense is going to possibly

812
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: carry this team. This is kind of a new test

813
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: for the Colts. So like they're a heavy favorite, they're

814
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: coming off a loss. They're playing a team like I

815
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: think when you become like a potential division winner, you

816
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: have these little check marks throughout the year, and this

817
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: is just like an early one, like this is a

818
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: game they should win.

819
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: Go go win a game, you should win.

820
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 6: Great point, that's good stuff. I like that.

821
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 4: It kind of felt like the offense, especially in the

822
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 4: Rams game, was was missing Alec Pierce, Like he is

823
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 4: my favorite player and I will continue to bring up

824
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 4: Alec Pierce, and I think Alec Pierce not being there

825
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 4: gave Ady Mitchell a chance to make that big play.

826
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, of course it didn't.

827
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 4: It didn't necessarily work out, but to have that amount

828
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 4: of talent on the field where you kind of started

829
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 4: to notice that we've been saying it for years, like

830
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 4: wow for interesting get things together like Stiching and Dimes

831
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 4: have got this thing figured out and the full display

832
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 4: of the talent versus were on the other side where

833
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 4: we can celebrate. And I'm glad, like Ashton Genty went

834
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 4: back to a stance, I'm glad.

835
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 7: He No, I loved it. I was like Leo pointing

836
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 7: at why.

837
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 6: Would that hold up? Yeah? Why would that ever be

838
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 6: an issue?

839
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 5: Because Kelly, why would you take a guy who thrives

840
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 5: in something as minute as a stance and.

841
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 6: Break him out of that? What the hell was that? Like?

842
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 5: I didn't pay that much attention to it, So I

843
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 5: heard about and I'm like, why the hell would you

844
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 5: mess with a stud stance?

845
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 7: Because coaches love control?

846
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, because a massive recruiting budget and the success of

847
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 4: several very talented players at Oregon got you anointed as

848
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 4: a genius and ultimately the results since then have not

849
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 4: necessarily justified.

850
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 6: So you're shotting. The talent at Ohio State's pretty good too.

851
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Ohio State football program was very

852
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 4: talented as well. Because Ashton Genty still got hit behind

853
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage on fifteen to twenty one carriers

854
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 4: in the Ashton Genty game where it's just he made

855
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 4: some great plays. And you know Kevin Byrt who was

856
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 4: able to sneak around in the middle of the field

857
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 4: and pick off Geno twice when he had to be

858
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 4: out on the edge and make a playoff ash Genty.

859
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 4: Like you saw what what Genty was talking about in

860
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 4: the pre draft like draft the guy they can't tackle

861
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 4: like Byr had every opportunity to get him, could.

862
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 6: Not even really slow him down.

863
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 5: Now I saw that and was like why, like what,

864
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 5: like really that that's what got to Mario and Hampton.

865
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 6: You know, you got him in the proper stance. That's

866
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 6: why he was so good at Ohio State. O Tradio

867
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 6: hends all his stance. What the hell? Yeah, it's one

868
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 6: of those.

869
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 7: See it's a confidence thing too, and it's sort of.

870
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 4: A come on, And I don't I don't necessarily think

871
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 4: like the change of the stance was like the ultimate result.

872
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 4: Just Genty was eventually going to hit a long run

873
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 4: or two, and it happened.

874
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 7: Against the Bears, And you know, I actually just I

875
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 7: also tend to think that it's a small like we

876
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 7: always talk about opening scripts right and how a lot

877
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 7: of especially coaches sometimes quarterbacks will show you kind of

878
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 7: who they want to be and what they want to do,

879
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 7: or how much autonomy they have, how much control they

880
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 7: themselves have within a certain plan. And so for me,

881
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 7: it's like, no, I don't think it's the biggest deal

882
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 7: in the world. The stands thing. At the same time,

883
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 7: like I do think that him feeling like himself and

884
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 7: feeling comfortable on a professional football field is important for

885
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 7: any player. I don't give a crap how high you

886
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,959
Speaker 7: were drafted, Like, be you and run free. Like that's

887
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 7: just that's how I feel about it.

888
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the worst teams in the NFL in

889
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 4: terms of turnover differential. If the Raiders can take care

890
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 4: of the ball, maybe they'll give us something to watch.

891
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 4: But this Colt S team play pretty good football at

892
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 4: the moment. It's time for the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota.

893
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 4: Let's go places on Sunday night football. It's the New

894
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 4: England Patriots at the Buffalo Bills in this bruising division

895
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 4: in the AFC East, where the Patriots have a chance

896
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 4: greg they have a chance to make a push. The

897
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 4: Bills favored by eight and a half points, the over

898
00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 4: hundred is fifty and a half.

899
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 6: He has to make a push. And Melissa Stark on

900
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 6: the call, can they do it? I'm gonna look at

901
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 6: Eric while you say it, Kret.

902
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: They could absolutely Why not?

903
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: In New England they're saying, is this the biggest game

904
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: of Drake May's career. It's like, yeah, well that's going

905
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 1: to be literally every game until they're out of playoff contention.

906
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 2: Yes it is. I guess it's a mismatch.

907
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: I think of massive proportions when the Bills have the

908
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: ball and the Patriots defense is on the field. It's

909
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: the number one offense now in the league in terms

910
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,959
Speaker 1: of DVOA, and they.

911
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: Can run the ball.

912
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 1: And the Patriots defense looks better against Carolina, but they've

913
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: got holes that you can pick on. I think at

914
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: linebacker and at safety. We haven't mentioned on this show,

915
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: and I did want to get in that. You know,

916
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: they're without their defensive coordinator Terrell Williams, who has prostate cancer,

917
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: and it's a big blow to Mike Frable's first coaching staff,

918
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: like he he was counting on Trell Williams first time

919
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: coordinator to be his guy, and he had coached with

920
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: him before, and he's been kind of off and on

921
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: the team since starting camp, and so that's maybe part

922
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: of it.

923
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: And so Rabel has to take a bigger role and

924
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: can he.

925
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: Scheme up anything that gives the Bills problems because you

926
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: know they don't really have the players, And to me,

927
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: it's it's a big proof of concept and just show

928
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: me who you are game for their defensive line, because

929
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: that's where their best players are.

930
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: Milton Williams has been great.

931
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: Good, Christen Barmore is coming off his best game of

932
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: the season, and Harold Landry has been great. And they're

933
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: going up against what I think is at this point

934
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: the best offensive line in the entire NFL. So can

935
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: they do something up front that's they're really their only

936
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: chance to meet Jordan is like, can those three guys

937
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: just be great and actually get some pressure and some

938
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: run stops in a way that no opponent for the

939
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: Bills has so far this year?

940
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 7: They have to make the entire unit uncomfortable. It's going

941
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 7: to take a lot of discipline and a lot of physicality, right,

942
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 7: because that is you're right, I agree with you. One

943
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 7: of the best top two for sure offensive lines in

944
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 7: football right now and has been and has the continuity right.

945
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 7: I have no doubt that this Bill's offense is gonna

946
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 7: score plenty of points eventually. But watching the Bills and

947
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 7: the Saints last week, I was stunned at times by

948
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 7: how many mistackles I saw from the Bills defense. This

949
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 7: is no secret all year, but if you can scheme

950
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 7: a couple guys into space and get a couple of

951
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 7: like hard run after the catch plays, if you get

952
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 7: your backs moving in the passing game a little bit

953
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 7: the way that the Saints did with some of the

954
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 7: versatile players that they have on the roster, and if

955
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 7: your quarterback can make some plays with his legs, which

956
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 7: again was the sort of what the Saints did when

957
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 7: they made it really close and a little trickier than

958
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 7: I think even the Bills expected, because that defense is

959
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 7: so questionable with its tackling, with its ability to bring

960
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 7: players to the ground. I have no doubt that the

961
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 7: Bills win this game, and they eventually, like they did

962
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 7: last week, put up a lot of points in doing it.

963
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 7: It is the best offense in football right now. It

964
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 7: is also one of the more questionable defenses, not necessarily

965
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 7: in terms of philosophy, but in terms of execution and

966
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 7: also in depth in some areas. So that's where I

967
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 7: really stay concerned with this. We shouldn't forget that this

968
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 7: is a Stephan Diggs revenge game either, so we're gonna

969
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 7: get some sort of meat it is. We might not

970
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 7: get a big Stephan Diggs game, but we will get

971
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 7: a meme out of it.

972
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 6: I think Stefan Diggs is gonna have a good game.

973
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 4: Yeah.

974
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 5: I think Drake May is playing greg He's you know,

975
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 5: I'm a big Drake May guy, and he is getting better.

976
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 6: You can just see him feeling himself. You know.

977
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 5: His his OC Josh McCanns is not going to make

978
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 5: it easy on him because he's going to change the

979
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 5: game plans week to week. He's can screen to death,

980
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 5: try screen death teams every week. Le Drake May play football,

981
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 5: but him and Sefon Diggs got something working, you know,

982
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 5: as he does with Hunter Henry.

983
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 6: You know right, you're seeing right here when he get

984
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 6: in the red zone.

985
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 5: So I think New England gonna put points on the board.

986
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 5: I mean I don't. I don't think this is going

987
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 5: to be a game where you know, they get wiped

988
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 5: off the map. Buffalo is a better team, But I

989
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 5: think New England's going to score some points and make

990
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 5: this a little bit more intriguing.

991
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 7: Don't you love Hunter Henry still out there doing it?

992
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's he's got an opportunity to do it

993
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 4: because in terms of like if you go to overall

994
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 4: next Gen stats, you can sort by the wide open

995
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 4: percentage that a defense is allowed. The Bills are at

996
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 4: thirty five percent.

997
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 7: I call those wow plays. Remember from last week why open?

998
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, wow, And your acronym game is.

999
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 4: And there's been plenty of wow opportunities wow against Buffalo

1000
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 4: and so yeah, like Hunter Henry and Stefan Diggs, like

1001
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 4: these guys are in play.

1002
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 6: I think there's reason to believe, Greg. I think there's

1003
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 6: reason to believe.

1004
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 2: Oh, I did too. I think they have a chance

1005
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: to win this game.

1006
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: I would be surprised if they did, but I certainly

1007
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: would like the eight and a half.

1008
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 6: I would too, you know, I would take it's like.

1009
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: A litmus test because I think the lowest moment, quietly

1010
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: of Bill Belichick's tenure in the beginning of the end

1011
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 1: for him in New England. Was that playoff game where

1012
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: he became the first coach to ever have a defense

1013
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: that didn't get a single stop in a playoff game.

1014
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: Josh Allen scored every single time and Mac Jones was

1015
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: game that day. Mac Jones coordinated by Josh McDaniels. You know,

1016
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: they scored their points that they like. Josh McDaniels does

1017
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: a good job coordinating the New England Patriots. In any

1018
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: other job that he's had in the NFL, there's been problems,

1019
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 1: including even coordinating the Saint Louis Rams back in the day.

1020
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 6: But I didn't you mentioned.

1021
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: Putting a lot on on Drake May's play, Steve I

1022
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 1: would say that they're scheming up a lot of open receiver.

1023
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like they have guys who win

1024
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: one on one.

1025
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,479
Speaker 1: It's a highly schemed and controlled offense where I think

1026
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: May is, as you're saying, look at really comfortable. I

1027
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: think his pocket feel is much better this season, and

1028
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: so he's gonna have some big plays that he creates

1029
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: with his legs. But otherwise I think it's like a nice,

1030
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: tightly managed, controlled thing. It's like a young I don't know,

1031
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, if you want to get a little frisk.

1032
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 7: Is this a Mac Collins revenge game too?

1033
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 6: I like that all sorts of reveals. Mac Collins got

1034
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 6: like seven of them.

1035
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: I know he's collecting a lot, you know how.

1036
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: I knew Drake May was starting to finally feel himself

1037
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: as a pro when he broke out that Superman for Cam.

1038
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: I was so fired up. And then he gave a

1039
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: really almost emotional speech after the game, saying Cam Newton

1040
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 1: is his all time favorite quarterback because of the way

1041
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: that he played, because of the way that he led.

1042
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: And he even admitted he stopped being a Carolina Panthers

1043
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 1: fan when they got rid of Cam Newton.

1044
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 2: So that made me even a bigger Drake May fan

1045
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: than I already.

1046
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: All Right, let's take one more break on this AFC

1047
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: show and we will be back on the other side

1048
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: to talk about maybe the best team in the NFL

1049
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,040
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1050
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,600
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Speaker 2: Back on NFL Daily and Yes, I Teasday before the break.

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00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: As big of a mismatch as we could possibly have

1063
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL right now. It is the Detroit Lions

1064
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: coming in on a three game winning streak facing the

1065
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, having been out gained patrick by five hundred

1066
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: yards in the last two weeks combined.

1067
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 4: And which is why it's an eye popping number that

1068
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 4: it's not higher. The Detroit Lions favored by ten on

1069
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 4: the road at Cincinnati. The over under is forty nine

1070
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 4: and a half. Kevin Coogler, Moose Johnston, and Alison Williams

1071
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 4: on the call. Hopefully they have their calculators out, Jordan,

1072
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 4: because I cannot imagine a situation where Dan Campbell's Detroit

1073
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 4: Lions do not score fifty points in this game.

1074
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 7: The carnage Wow, the carnage potential of this game is

1075
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 7: kind of astounding to think about the potential. Now, anything

1076
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 7: could happen. Guys. I'm not one to roll out like

1077
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 7: any perceived possibility here. But I think about that Jeff

1078
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 7: that circulated a couple of years ago about the young

1079
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 7: child in the automatic like toy car just rolling over

1080
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 7: the upper child in the front law, not able to stop,

1081
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 7: not able to reverse, just goes right over. That's kind

1082
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 7: of what I picture when I think about and I

1083
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 7: and I'm guys, because I've been you know, me and

1084
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 7: Nick Schuck fillin in for Greg on Monday Night Show

1085
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 7: this week. I watched that entire game start to finish,

1086
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 7: Broncos putting up five hundred yards against the Bengals. The

1087
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 7: Bengals only play because they can't run the ball at

1088
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 7: historically low rates. Only play being let's try to draw,

1089
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Speaker 7: let's try to drop p I down the field to

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00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 7: t Higgins or Jamar Chase. I mean, it is bad

1091
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 7: and they could not adjust. They didn't change anything there

1092
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 7: and shotgun the entire time Steve.

1093
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 5: And then no quick passing game. Yeah, I mean this

1094
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 5: is one, you know. Look, I I like Jake Brown.

1095
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 5: I think he's a very capable backup. But when he's

1096
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 5: getting his brains knocked in, like get a quick pass, game,

1097
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 5: do something some some bubble screens, something to get it going.

1098
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 5: And they just like, let's just stand back there and

1099
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 5: take shot plays. Yeah, three and out, three and out.

1100
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 5: But let's go to this defense though, I mean this

1101
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 5: is one like, first off, Pokinaku and amh Rossaint Brown

1102
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 5: at two best wide receivers in the NFL. Right, m okay,

1103
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 5: we can go by skills setting everything Jamar Chase and

1104
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 5: Joshin Jefferson.

1105
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 6: But Pokinaku and amh Ross.

1106
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 5: Saint Brown are sick, right, and a mon Ross can

1107
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 5: have some he might throw a touchdown pass.

1108
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 6: Right, They're gonna they're gonna have They're gonna have some fun.

1109
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 5: Because Cincinnati on defense, Trey hendrickson or not, it is

1110
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 5: a sieve. And now if if all of a sudden

1111
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 5: they come out and Detroit comes down and gets up

1112
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 5: fourteen to nothing, real quick, Okay, now there's gonna be

1113
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 5: some picks going on, you know, Kirby Joseph, these guys

1114
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 5: are gonna start making plays. Eight and Hudson's gonna make

1115
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 5: the Pro Bowl in a game like this, And I

1116
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 5: don't think it's gonna be well, yeah, I do.

1117
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 6: I think it's I.

1118
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 5: Think let's just let's just go ahead, lan slide it,

1119
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 5: avalanche at whatever this is. This is, you know, I

1120
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 5: do like Zach Taylor there after the game, it gets

1121
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 5: it gets the Broncos.

1122
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 6: He came out.

1123
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 5: We're two and two. We're in a good place. Yeah,

1124
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 5: those last two games haven't been Greg You didn't like that.

1125
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 2: Huh, well, you know what that reminds me of.

1126
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: There's a scene in the show Quarterback where Joe Burrow

1127
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: goes over to you know, Zach Taylor goes over to

1128
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow on the sideline who is furious during a

1129
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: Titans game because they had like six before the snap

1130
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: penalties on the offense and they won that game thirty

1131
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: seven to twenty seven. And he is so pissed and

1132
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: Zach's like, hey, you gotta come you gotta try to

1133
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: enjoy the wins. And he's like we're terrible today, Like

1134
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna enjoy this.

1135
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: We're brutal. And Zach's over there like, oh, come on,

1136
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: we gotta we gotta try to enjoy this.

1137
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: Life is short, and Joe Burrow is like having a

1138
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: much higher standard than the head coach of the team,

1139
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: who is kind of going over to him like he's

1140
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: a substitute teacher, like just trying to calm the student down.

1141
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: And I love thinking that that's a bad dynamic, and

1142
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: I don't like that dynamic for this Cincinnati Bengals organization.

1143
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:34,959
Speaker 6: They deserve better.

1144
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 7: Can you do that voice one more time?

1145
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 2: That my Zach Taylor voice.

1146
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: I gotta say, as someone who has been politicking against

1147
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor for years, to get to this moment is

1148
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: actually unsatisfying because it's it's just unwatchable, Like this is

1149
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: the worst situation. Fox took this game and made it

1150
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: the four. You know, it's a four to twenty five

1151
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: game because they thought it's Joe Burrow versus one of

1152
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: the best teams in the league, and instead it's it's

1153
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: just one of the best teams in the league.

1154
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: One thing I like, though, Patrick, this Lions defense.

1155
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I was thinking, Jake Browning, Okay, now you

1156
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 1: don't have to play Minnesota in Denver.

1157
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 2: It's not as crazy.

1158
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're looking at DVA, the Lions defense

1159
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: actually ranked higher than both of them. They're a top

1160
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: five defense right now. They're really playing good, good team ball.

1161
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 6: Let me so.

1162
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 5: I was at the Monday night game where they played

1163
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 5: the Ravens. The game plan was fantastic, but they're linebackers.

1164
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 5: The way they were able to spy Lamar Alex Angeloni,

1165
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 5: who's a great open field tackler, the way they spied Lamar,

1166
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 5: and the way they just locked up the receivers, I

1167
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 5: was is impressed. I know they lost Aaron Glenn, I

1168
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 5: know they're going through some changes on Vin Shep, but

1169
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 5: Kelvin Shepherd is he's got it, putting together some stuff

1170
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 5: and the players are so excited. I mean, when Alex

1171
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 5: Angeloni is spying Lamar from seven yards deep from and

1172
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 5: stopping him like closing as soon as Lamar takes off,

1173
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 5: that means nothing else is going on for the other team.

1174
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 5: So Detroit is it together with these new coordinators and

1175
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 5: Jake Brownie, ought they got a quick game of just

1176
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 5: get it to just get it to those receivers as

1177
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 5: quickly as possible and get the ball out of his hand.

1178
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 7: Part of the problem why they can't adjust is because,

1179
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 7: like I said before, everything's coming out of the gun,

1180
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 7: which if you have Joe Burrow, that's fine. And I

1181
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 7: get some of it's too where you're just like, hey,

1182
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 7: I would like the quarterback to be able to see

1183
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 7: the defense for as long as possible. But they're not

1184
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 7: getting any any help because they have no run games.

1185
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 7: So they can't go under center because they're not going

1186
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 7: to run the ball because they have to make sure

1187
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 7: that they're in the gun the entire time, and they

1188
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 7: can't run the ball anyway, so they can't even go

1189
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 7: into the pistol to keep some semblance of the gun

1190
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 7: intact and go into their play action game. They have

1191
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 7: nothing that helps protect the quarterback and it shows. And

1192
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 7: I just think, and Kelvin Shephard, you I love watching

1193
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 7: him coach on the sidelines because if you want to

1194
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 7: talk about the kind of defeatist like participation trophy esque

1195
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 7: mindset of like what Zach Taylor was talking about, right

1196
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 7: like enjoy the wins and it's not good enough for

1197
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,479
Speaker 7: Joe Burrow. Calvin Shephard is not coaching like that. He's

1198
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 7: coaching with so much energy. He's like all of his

1199
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 7: guys are with him. You can totally feel it. You

1200
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 7: can almost feel it through the TV screen.

1201
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 5: In a short sleeve great T shirt. Yes, like he's

1202
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 5: just totally go on boot camp. Yeah, in the wardrobe

1203
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 5: on the sideline.

1204
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 7: And and what did we say at the very beginning,

1205
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 7: because this this whole conversation nationally about oh, new coordinators

1206
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 7: on one on each side of the ball, and then

1207
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 7: all this stuff. Dan Campbell has an eye for talent.

1208
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 7: He has showed this over and over again of when

1209
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 7: to promote, when to uplift, when to amplify the right

1210
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 7: coaches for the right situations. And I think he's doing

1211
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 7: that on both sides of the ball.

1212
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: And as if the Lions needed any more good news.

1213
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: If you're watching our show on YouTube, we just you know,

1214
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: threw up a little graphic moment in time of the

1215
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: Bengals offensive line in that Broncos game where they have

1216
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: four players blocking. Meanwhile they're bookend tackles who sneakily are

1217
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: a big part of this whole problem. Both get beaten

1218
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: very quickly by Nick Benido and Jonathan Cooper, and poor

1219
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: Jake Browning is about to get absolutely hammered. So that's

1220
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: bad coaching, bad execution, bad resource allocation, bad coaching. It's

1221
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: all bad right now for the Bengals. It's good for

1222
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: those of us who took that Lions over ten and

1223
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: a half wins before the season. I'm feeling good about. Also,

1224
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: Alee McNeil returned to this week. Not gonna play this week, but.

1225
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 2: That is good for that Lions defensive.

1226
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 4: Line now fully operational. Lions team. Love to see it.

1227
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 4: Let's get to London. The Minnesota Vikings, oh yeah, get

1228
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 4: to stay away from the country. They are favored by

1229
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 4: three and a half. The home team is the Holyland Browns,

1230
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 4: but the Vikings a bit over there for a while

1231
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 4: again the over under thirty six and a half. A

1232
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 4: family on NFL Network hosting the game, Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilma,

1233
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 4: Sarah Walsh, Rise, shine and watch. Second week in a row.

1234
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 4: We care about each other over here. I'm glad you're

1235
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 4: watching this game on the NFL Network. And Steve Wise.

1236
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 4: We get to see Dylan Gabriel make us first start

1237
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 4: in the NFL.

1238
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 6: Dah. Oh, yes, there it is. We got, we got.

1239
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 6: That's really good. I'm thinking politics right here with that.

1240
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, But Dylan Gabriel makes you start against his Vikings deep.

1241
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 5: But Carson Wentz also makes another start against I guess

1242
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 5: this brown steep.

1243
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 6: But let's go Dylan.

1244
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 5: Gabriel because this is gonna be interesting, the fact that

1245
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 5: Cleveland decided to make this change international game against someone

1246
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 5: who's gonna scheme the hell out of anybody he plays,

1247
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 5: and Brian Flores in this defense, but scheme up Dylan

1248
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 5: Gabriel where there's not a lot of tape. You got

1249
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 5: about a five nine, five to ten quarterback lefty. But

1250
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 5: he gets the ball out. I mean he he runs

1251
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 5: Stefanski's scheme the way it needs to be run. Now

1252
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 5: he has not run it in a game, but everything

1253
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 5: you can talk about he's in the book. He's doing this,

1254
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 5: and that he's Jim rack guy, been a training camp.

1255
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 5: Watch him operate it. It looks good again, we'll see

1256
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 5: it in a game. And I'm actually excited to see

1257
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 5: Dylan Gabriel. I was very I loved him at Oregon.

1258
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 5: I love how he plays. Again, this defense is gonna

1259
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 5: be hard. But I think if you're gonna make this

1260
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 5: move and you go to Dylan Gabriel, everyone's gonna compare

1261
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,959
Speaker 5: him against should or Shouldur's still a third on the bench.

1262
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 5: You know, I find it interesting, and you guys tell

1263
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 5: me a lot of times. Season reporters like Jordan Patrick

1264
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 5: Gregan myself, it's what people say but don't say. Joe

1265
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 5: Flacco when asked about Gabriel today, Hey, look, he puts

1266
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 5: in the time, he does the work, he does the

1267
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 5: little things, and I want people to interpret that the

1268
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 5: way they might as to why Dylan Gabriel is getting

1269
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 5: the start and Joe Flacco is still the number two.

1270
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: I also think you just got to look at the preseason.

1271
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: That had a solid first appearance, and after that it

1272
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: went her and it went south. I was impressed by

1273
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel way more than I expected to be in

1274
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: the preseason. I thought his arm was a little more

1275
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: juicy than I expected. Obviously it's not going to be

1276
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: even NFL average, but he's putting a lot into it.

1277
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: He made some difficult throws, and I think he knew

1278
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: how to run that offense.

1279
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 2: And I'm more excited.

1280
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: I don't need to fake the enthusiasm for this game.

1281
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 4: I care about these people and we get a chance

1282
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 4: to felt like broadcast a little bit.

1283
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 2: You know who doesn't fake.

1284
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: So right now I'm taping in the Top Sport studios,

1285
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: and right next to me, I'm going to take advantage

1286
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: of the fact that the host Will Gavin is in

1287
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: the studio who I'm going to be calling the game

1288
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: with on Sunday. And Will, never a man to miss

1289
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: an opportunity to promote himself, said hey, we have a

1290
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: viral video going on right now. I share that with Will.

1291
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 1: By the way, we have a viral video up right

1292
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: now of calling the game on Sunday. He said, well

1293
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: we should, we should talk about this game a little

1294
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: bit in the studio, so welcome. Well, we'll also you know,

1295
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: getting the pump prime for the listeners. Will also be

1296
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: joining us on the Sunday night recap show again this year.

1297
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 2: So I'm excited for this game.

1298
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 10: Thank you for having me sensational Staffatrick, I want to

1299
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 10: steal that and can we use that on the broadcast

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Speaker 10: on Sunday, because I.

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Speaker 2: Think that's going to be everyone going more than anything else.

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Speaker 10: We're just kind of out of one of the outbreaks,

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Speaker 10: no context whatsoever, just you screaming about Dyvin Gabriel sounds good.

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Speaker 6: Oh no, you have to put the Howard. You have

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Speaker 6: to put the Howard. They're going to miss the context

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Speaker 6: on the Howard Dane scream.

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Speaker 4: But Will, and I promise you, Greg will accuse me

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Speaker 4: of having faith enthusiasm.

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Speaker 7: As someone who was sitting next to it. That nothing

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Speaker 7: big about that as someone who is sitting right next

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Speaker 7: to it.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, watching that Browns game last week,

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Speaker 1: if you only watched the Browns defense when the Lions

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Speaker 1: offense was on the field, and I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 1: like talking about that during our broadcast. Work like that

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Speaker 1: felt like a matchup of one of the best defense

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Speaker 1: in the league against one of the best offense in

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Speaker 1: the league. And the Browns got their share of wins.

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Speaker 1: So if I'm Kevin Stefanski, I think he's looking at

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Speaker 1: what happened last week to Minnesota. I think he's thinking

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Speaker 1: about the way to attack. Also, this Vikings defense is

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Speaker 1: on the ground, and he's thinking, we can keep this

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Speaker 1: a low scoring game, and maybe Dylan Gabriel does give

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Speaker 1: us a better chance to them.

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Speaker 10: The thing is the lot you see last week, and

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Speaker 10: you see the Lions scored thirty four points, but realistically

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Speaker 10: actual points scored on the Browns defense is ten because

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Speaker 10: seventeen of those points came off turnovers, seven off that

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Speaker 10: huge punt return, but three of their touchdown drives started

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Speaker 10: from the three, the five, and the twenty yard line.

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Speaker 10: Like you're not putting your defense in a position to win.

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Speaker 10: And when you consider the injuries on the Minnesota Vikings line,

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Speaker 10: if Brian O'Neil is seems like he's gonna be out

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Speaker 10: for significant time, Ryan Kelly with a second concussion in

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Speaker 10: a space of three weeks, they're already missing one of

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Speaker 10: their guards as well.

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Speaker 2: Like Dynavan Jackson is gaming they announced already.

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Speaker 10: H it's a huge, huge mismatch and actually like thirty

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Speaker 10: six and a half points is the over under I

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Speaker 10: think might be generous.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree with you will absolutely. I mean, I

1342
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 7: know you're shocked that I agree with you on something

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Speaker 7: anything you said, you know, any I know, I know

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Speaker 7: it's it's you know, it's just just keep an eye

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Speaker 7: on it, That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: I think about it rather than saying just keep.

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Speaker 2: An eye on it.

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Speaker 7: Every every time you speak, though, I find myself nodding

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Speaker 7: and smiling just because you're just amazing and a delight

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Speaker 7: of a person. But I do think, like it's it's interesting,

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Speaker 7: like I do think that this line is generous to

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Speaker 7: your point, very much so, because I think this this

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01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 7: does end up being uh a defensive battle, and I

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01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 7: think part of the reason there's twofold some of the

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Speaker 7: reasons why Dylan Gabriel is is getting the start now

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Speaker 7: and in this place. And I think it's kind of

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01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 7: like baptism by a little bit, because you're gonna see

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Speaker 7: a lot of stuff that you're not used to seeing.

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Speaker 7: You're going to be in a very unfamiliar environment. The defense,

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Speaker 7: as they have had to do all year, is going

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Speaker 7: to have to lift this offense up as much as

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Speaker 7: it possibly can. And it's still in Gabriel playing with

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Speaker 7: a bunch of guys that he came into the same

1364
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 7: path class with a lot of these offensive guys are

1365
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 7: are playing really really well right now, and it's like,

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Speaker 7: what do we actually have together collectively against one of

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Speaker 7: the most difficult and confusing defenses to play? Like what

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Speaker 7: actually is there? And so whether or not the Browns

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Speaker 7: win or lose this game, there's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 7: of tape that this coaching staff and this organization is

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Speaker 7: going to pour over to try to understand what actually

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Speaker 7: is here among this young collective group that they all

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Speaker 7: came in at the same time. And and I, Dylan Gabriel,

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Speaker 7: I will say this not to like humble Bragg or whatever.

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Speaker 7: But when I got to spend a lot of time

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Speaker 7: with the Rams scouting department for a series that I

1377
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Speaker 7: did a couple of years ago, people were already scouting

1378
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Speaker 7: ahead onto the next draft class, the one after, the

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Speaker 7: one that was incoming. And when they were scouting tackles,

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Speaker 7: when they were scouting receivers, when they were looking a

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Speaker 7: lot at Oregon, I kept hearing from other teams, some

1382
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Speaker 7: from the Rams, but from other teams how much this

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Speaker 7: guy reminds them of Tua when Tua is playing on time,

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Speaker 7: when he's doing some of the ball handling that he does,

1385
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Speaker 7: when he sees the field well, when he can get

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Speaker 7: the ball out quickly. He's got good pronation on it

1387
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Speaker 7: for a lefty quarterback, and he just he plays sort

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Speaker 7: of He's very small, but he plays sort of collected

1389
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Speaker 7: within whatever that system is, if the system fits him,

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Speaker 7: and I think, and that's the comp that I kept

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Speaker 7: hearing well.

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Speaker 6: And he broke all to his records over in Hawaii

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Speaker 6: as well.

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Speaker 5: And one thing that Dylan Gabriel will do because he

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Speaker 5: is a little bit more mobile than Tua, but because

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Speaker 5: he's short, I mean, he's really like when you see him,

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Speaker 5: but he will move to the point to get passing

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Speaker 5: the lanes that yeah, aren't necessarily there for Joe Flacco,

1399
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Speaker 5: who statuesque. So again, they're going to do some more

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Speaker 5: fluid things with their offense. It's what they have to do.

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Speaker 5: So it's you know, it's it's intriguing. But will let

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Speaker 5: me give you props because dude, you hit on something

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01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 5: that I've been screaming about for fifteen years. Right when

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Speaker 5: defenses get scores like an interception for points whatever?

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Speaker 6: Oh this a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 5: Oh, the Cowboys, you know they led the NFL in

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Speaker 5: scoring when they had ten non offensive touchdowns. Their offense

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Speaker 5: did lead the NFL scoring, their team did.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I'm.

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Speaker 5: Glad he clarified that point. That's a pro right there,

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Speaker 5: and talking about the defensive scores and non offensive scorers

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Speaker 5: going against a team's defense or working against a team's offense,

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Speaker 5: however you want to put it, So well done, because

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Speaker 5: this is where numbers sometimes fool you.

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Speaker 10: I'm kind of a little bit on the Dylan Gabriel

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Speaker 10: bandwagon right at sixty four starts in college. They might

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Speaker 10: not have been against the kind of level of opponent

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Speaker 10: that he's going to be facing with Brian Flores and

1419
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Speaker 10: the Vikings defense, but you just you learn how to

1420
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Speaker 10: do all the operational stuff. Like it's the opposite of

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Speaker 10: what we saw from J. J. McCarthy, even though he

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Speaker 10: had plenty of starts in college himself. In those first

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Speaker 10: two starts this year, I just feel like, are we

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Speaker 10: going to see like we had we've had with Shane

1425
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Speaker 10: Steichen and Daniel Jones and like we saw with Jackson

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Speaker 10: Dart this weekend. Finally a coach who's just got a

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Speaker 10: quarterback who's just going to do what he's told and

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Speaker 10: run the system.

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Speaker 6: And he's mobile enough to do it.

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Speaker 10: And so even though I think they keep it simple

1431
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,439
Speaker 10: for him, I think the marriage, I think Stefanski's excited about.

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Speaker 1: H Yeah, And it's such a mismatch up front for

1433
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: both sides. This Browns defensive line is so great right

1434
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: now and they're going up against three backups for the

1435
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Speaker 1: Vikings and the flip side, Dylan Gabriel will be running

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Speaker 1: for his life. So I feel like the London crowd,

1437
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, likes ugly defensive game. We're gonna bring

1438
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: on for you and will the challenge will be for

1439
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: you to come up with another viral clip, A great car.

1440
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 2: He's gonna be a challenge. You can't lean into it.

1441
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 2: We're at I'm checking at now, we're at one point

1442
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Speaker 2: three million views.

1443
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Speaker 6: Coffee.

1444
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:57,439
Speaker 2: You did that, Thank you Will.

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01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: He will be back, as I mentioned on NFL Daily,

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Speaker 1: and yeah you could. You could listen with us if

1447
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: you wanted on talkSPORT during the game. We're gonna be

1448
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: back in just a second and go over all the

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Speaker 1: A f C games. So we'll say bye to you, will,

1450
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 1: and uh, stay right here.

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Speaker 2: Let's do the NFC games next