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Speaker 1: Ron An Aian.

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Speaker 2: The real question is, first of all, is mama happy

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Speaker 2: with the car?

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Speaker 3: Yep?

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Speaker 2: Here okay, because if mama's not happy, nobody's happy. Used

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Speaker 2: to say, thank your time, man, and used to say

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Speaker 2: don't you must get over, and used to say take

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Speaker 2: it in your start.

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Speaker 1: Used to say the car Doctor.

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Speaker 3: I'm a car guy. I like cars. That to me,

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Speaker 3: a car is a just transportation. It's almost an extension

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Speaker 3: of myself.

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Speaker 2: It's a lifestyle.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the

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Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick.

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Speaker 2: Up the phone and call in. The garage doors are open.

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Speaker 2: But I am here to take your calls at eight

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Speaker 2: five five five six ninety nine hundred and now, surely

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Speaker 2: you can't be serious.

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Speaker 3: I am serious. Don't call me.

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Speaker 1: Show here gee.

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Speaker 2: Running Hey, Welcome listeners, and thanks for stopping by today.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of a different format today for the

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Speaker 2: Car Doctor. We've got a great treat in store for you.

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Speaker 2: A gentleman by the name of Bill Harmes is with

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Speaker 2: us and Bill is going to be Let's bring him

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Speaker 2: up right away. And Bill, welcome to the car doctor

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Speaker 2: and introduced to the listeners who they're going to hear

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Speaker 2: about today.

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Speaker 3: Would you please, I'm excited to be here. This car's

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Speaker 3: name is Little Willie. It's named after my father who's

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Speaker 3: first bought it in nineteen fifty seven and he's been

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Speaker 3: in the family ever since. But here, here he is.

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Speaker 3: This is Little Willy talking to you. I hope that came.

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Speaker 2: Through it did, Little Willie's Little Willy's a Model A right.

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Speaker 3: Bill, Yes, it's a MODELATE for nineteen twenty nine Model

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Speaker 3: A Ford Special Coup the Special Coup who was made

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Speaker 3: between the mid of nineteen twenty eight to my mid

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Speaker 3: nineteen twenty nine. And this is a later Special Coop.

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Speaker 3: He was made in June nineteen twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: What's what made him? What made him a special Coop?

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Speaker 3: Well, standard coop has the final thought that goes back

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Speaker 3: to the edge of the roof and then it's metal

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Speaker 3: from there on down to the deckld this one, the

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Speaker 3: vinyl goes all the way down to the deckled right.

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Speaker 3: That only thing that makes it special. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if it's really special, but It was special to Henry

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Speaker 3: Ford because the car the Model A that he drove

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Speaker 3: to work every day, the Model A picture.

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Speaker 2: So this see the depression. The depression was twenty eight,

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Speaker 2: right when the when the stock market crashed, So this

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Speaker 2: car was made the year after the stock market crashed.

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Speaker 3: Right exactly.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Actually they first made the first ones in nineteen twenty seven,

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Speaker 3: but the automobile year, like they do now, is a

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Speaker 3: year in advance towards end of the year, so they

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Speaker 3: were all called twenty eight. Okay, that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, I guess back then, sure, everything was

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Speaker 2: a little different than it is today. So if it

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Speaker 2: was made the year after the depression, you know, well

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Speaker 2: there must have been, right was there demand for the cars?

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Speaker 2: Nobody had any money, but I guess there must have been.

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Speaker 2: What sort of effect do you think the car had

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Speaker 2: on the Great Depression in terms of, you know, creating

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Speaker 3: It was only in production for four years, so I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure the economics about the time, but there were

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Speaker 3: a lot of innovations with it. Henry Ford tried to

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Speaker 3: keep the cost down. He would take the parts, the

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Speaker 3: boxes at the parts came in, and he would have

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Speaker 3: certain specifications for those part boxes so that he could

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Speaker 3: use them in the car.

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Speaker 2: So you mean, well, the the boxes were made out

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Speaker 2: of wood, right.

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Speaker 3: They were made out of wood, and the part of

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Speaker 2: So this car has been in your family since nineteen

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Speaker 2: fifty seven, that's right.

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Speaker 3: My father bought it in March nineteen fifty seven. I

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Speaker 3: ever since then. I grew up with him until I

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Speaker 3: For a while. I helped my dad restore it when

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Speaker 3: I was in nineteen seventy two, it'd be about fifteen

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Speaker 3: National Model Meat in Seattle in nineteen seven two, and

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Speaker 3: the car got a blue ribbon, which means that it

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Speaker 3: had to meet certain requirements for safety and authenticity. So

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Speaker 3: blue ribbon car is an accomplishment, but it wasn't best

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Speaker 3: for show, but still that's still a good right.

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Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah, what's what's top speed of little Willy? Just

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Speaker 3: Before or after I changed the engine?

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Speaker 2: Well as as as before, let's go before. How fast

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Speaker 3: Where if you pushed him he could go over sixty

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Speaker 3: maybe sixty one sixty two?

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Speaker 3: Did start underheating at that point? So you got it

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Speaker 2: Okay? So what will he do now?

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Speaker 3: He does? I had him up to seventy one as

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Speaker 2: Or not, now obviously a new model a engine. You

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Speaker 3: It's the engine was made in China. It's called the

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Speaker 3: Bert's engine, and Terry Bert went to China and found

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Speaker 3: a foundry over there that would make the block for it.

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Speaker 3: And you can add on all the regular modeling parts

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Speaker 3: which the original one didn't, and it has five main

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Speaker 3: And they changed the cooling system inside the engine so

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Speaker 3: it can run a little bit cooler. At higher RPMs,

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Speaker 3: you can get a little bit more out of it.

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Speaker 2: Why did you you know, other than the obvious, you know,

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Speaker 2: let's change the engine a little bit of a power

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Speaker 2: upgrade kind of a thing? Was it? Was it not

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Speaker 2: possible to get the old engine rebuilt.

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Speaker 3: I blew ahead gasket. So I took it to a

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Speaker 3: guy here locally in western New York to check the

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Speaker 3: And he did a magnifus fused test on it, and

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Speaker 3: it came back that engine block around the valve seats

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Speaker 3: were cracked. And I talked to a couple of guys

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Speaker 3: who could rebuild engines, and they said, well, you can

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Speaker 3: rebuild the engine, but we won't. We didn't guarantee it

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Speaker 3: for two days or twenty years, right, So I just

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Speaker 2: Are are there any parts left for Model A bill?

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Speaker 3: You know? Oh?

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Speaker 3: They are about five or six major Model A suppliers

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Speaker 3: that have virtually almost anything you should find, from fenders

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Speaker 3: to engines, to transmissions, to the detailed screws for the

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Speaker 2: Why do you think that is? I mean, here's a

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Speaker 2: car that's in my book one hundred years old. What's

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Speaker 2: what's the fact, what do you think the fascination is.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. From what I understand. They are about

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Speaker 3: three hundred thousand of them registered by the state DMVs

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Speaker 3: the United States too, So it's still a fairly popular car.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a real niche market, of course, right,

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Speaker 3: But there's enough of a niche market that people are

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Speaker 2: Is there enough parts out there? I mean, could you

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Speaker 2: build a brand new one from scratch if you wanted

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Speaker 2: to do? You have to have the bones to make

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Speaker 2: it all work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, actually you could. Somebody did the calculations one time

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Speaker 3: and it costs you about fifty sixty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: But it'd be brand new.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can make it out of all new parts.

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Speaker 2: Yet, So, what's the furthest you've ever taken Little Willie?

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, I'm sure it's parades and around town

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Speaker 3: Well, last Saturday we had him out for about fifty

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Speaker 3: miles smart house, we put one hundred miles on. That's

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Speaker 3: the furthest I've had him since I've had the new engine.

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Speaker 3: When I as a kid, I dated a girl that

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Speaker 2: Man, if little Willy breaks down on the side of

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Speaker 2: the road, what do you do? Do you have tools?

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Speaker 2: Do you have parts? I mean you can probably you

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Speaker 3: Right, if it's something simple, you can fix it on

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Speaker 3: the side of the road. If the carb ration goes bad,

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Speaker 3: I got parts for a new distributor and all that

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Speaker 3: kind of stuff. It's something simple like that, you can

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Speaker 3: get it fixed. But if you can't get it started,

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Speaker 3: and no matter what you do, you call it Triple

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Speaker 3: A and they'll come and tow you. Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank god for Triple A. Does not Now I'm

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Speaker 2: not up on my Model a's bill, and I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to claim to. But does a Model A have

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Speaker 2: an electric starter? Or is this a hand crank?

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Speaker 3: The answer to most questions is yes, so it can

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Speaker 2: It can be either or started. So is the electric

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Speaker 2: start or the option or did you add it?

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Speaker 3: No, it's it came with the car. But people would

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Speaker 3: use the crank if the battery ran down, right, If

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Speaker 3: you're or you can push it if you're on an incline,

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Speaker 3: or get a bunch of guys behind you to push

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Speaker 3: it to start it. It starts really easily. I've had it.

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Speaker 3: I got it tuned up to where, uh, even when

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Speaker 2: And what do you do? You know, I'm just thinking

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Speaker 2: of some of the basic maintenance that he may need

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Speaker 2: along the way, you know, as far as octane of

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Speaker 2: fuel and oil. I'll tell you what, Bill, let's I'm

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Speaker 2: watching the clock. Let's let me pull over, take a pause.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, let's talk a little bit about

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Speaker 2: basic maintenance. And then I want to I want to

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Speaker 2: hear your plans for continuation in the family as is

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Speaker 2: the family, has the family adopted Little Willy the way

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Speaker 2: you have? And you know, is there a start involved

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Speaker 2: in that kind of thing. So let's pull over, take

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Speaker 2: a pause. I'm ronnin aiding in the car. Doctor. I'm

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Speaker 2: here talking with Bill harm about his friend Little Willy,

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Speaker 2: his Model A from nineteen twenty nine. And we'll both

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Speaker 2: return right after this. Don't go away, look at.

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Speaker 3: The gun stock you coming on.

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Speaker 2: For the best in car advice, give Ron a call

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Speaker 2: eight five five, five, six zero nine nine zero zero.

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Speaker 2: Now back to Rod and we're back. Welcome back, Running

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Speaker 2: Eating the Car Doctor. This one's for fun, guys. It's uh.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Bill Harmes. Bill owns a nineteen twenty

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Speaker 2: nine Model A Little Willie. I don't want to slight him,

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Speaker 2: as he referred to him. And Bill and I are

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Speaker 3: Right when I went to college, I kind of lost contact.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I could. I could see that.

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Speaker 2: Someone once told me that we're really don't own these

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Speaker 2: People people did right. But I guess then if you

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Speaker 3: It was probably fairly easy because they were pretty popular

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my son has been helping me out the members

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Speaker 3: Bill, No, it does not have a radio. But we

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Speaker 2: Right right right, And I'm sure it doesn't have an

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Speaker 3: You got to change the oil frequently. It's got an

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Speaker 2: You've got to believe then, as I do, that classic

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Speaker 3: Yes, do my Actually, my father was an autobody repair man.

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Speaker 3: That was his job. I worked with him when he

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Speaker 3: I feel like when I'm working on him now, I'm

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Speaker 2: Now that's see, Now that's kind of me. But you see,

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Speaker 2: That that that that connection, right, you know, it's it's

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Speaker 3: Well, we've put in some soundproofing already and we're finishing

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Speaker 2: If the listeners, if the listeners want to see a

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Speaker 3: You can go to the model A Club Port Club

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Speaker 3: of America Facebook and look up Little Willy. Just do

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Speaker 2: Listened the Wow, that's great.

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Speaker 3: Bill.

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Speaker 2: I want to say thank you. I appreciate you taking

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Speaker 2: at that moment, Bill, Bill Harms, I want to thank

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Speaker 2: you and say how to little Willy. For me, I'm

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