1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Now all sectors are adjusting to what a Donald Trump 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: presidency will mean for them. We want to have a 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: conversation next about what it could mean for philanthropy. This 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: is Goldman Sacks is holding its investment competition today, where 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: it's analysts around the world get to pitch for a 6 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars prize tonight to a 7 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: charity of their choice. We have Asahi Pompey with us 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: in studio, whose global head of Corporate Engagement and President 9 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: of the Goldman Sachs Foundation. Good morning, Sah. He lovely 10 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: to have you with us in studio. I do wonder 11 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: what the election results, what that means for how you're 12 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: thinking about next year. A lot of the policies espoused 13 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: by the incoming president would be perhaps rolling back areas 14 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: of government where perhaps philanthropy could be stepping in. What 15 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: are you thinking about in terms of what could change 16 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: next year? 17 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: Look, I'd like to start off by just saying that, 18 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: you know, I echo the words of our CEO, David 19 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: Solomon in congratulating President elect Trump on his victory, and 20 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: we look forward to working with the new administration on 21 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: what we hope will be strong policies for economic growth. 22 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: I think, like everybody else, we're going to be sort 23 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: of watching what the impact will be on markets and 24 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: policies so we can best serve our clients. As I 25 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: think about the philanthropic landscape, I'd say a couple of things. 26 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: One is, as we think about cultivating talent, we think 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: about what that talent feels about the impact of Goldman, 28 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: Sachs and Frankly companies where they work in communities. We 29 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: know that seventy five percent of gen Z and millennials 30 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: say that an organization's community engagement their social impact is 31 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: absolutely critical to where they choose to work. Secondly, we 32 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: know that the overall job satisfaction, eighty six percent of 33 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: gen Z say that their sense of purpose, whether they 34 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: have a sense of purpose at work, increases not only 35 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: their job satisfaction but their personal well being. So as 36 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: you think about that backdrop of any company, you have 37 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: to make sure that you're engaged in activities that's going 38 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: to feed that. And one of the great things that 39 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: we're doing today is that we're have this competition of 40 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: our analysts and they'll be able to have their hands 41 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: on millions of philanthropic dollars and where those dollars go. 42 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: And this is the ninth year of the competition. 43 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds really interesting. I want to get onto 44 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 3: that in just a minute, but just a further kind 45 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 3: of follow up question, given the importance of the Trump 46 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 3: White House, you know, Goldman Sachs is one Million Black 47 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 3: Women Initiative, the Black and Business Education Program, and a 48 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 3: raft of other Golden Sachs and Golden Sachs Foundation programs. 49 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: They are putting literally billions of dollars over many, many 50 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: years into addressing racial and gender inequality, for example. Do 51 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 3: you lean into that given that the next four years 52 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: is going to be a very conservative administration, how do 53 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: you think about it? 54 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: I mean, when we launched our one Million Black Women Initiative, 55 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: it's two things. It's ten billion of investment capital and 56 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 2: one hundred million of philanthropic capital. What's important to note, 57 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: I think is one, in terms of our Black and 58 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: Business Program, it is open to all individuals who are 59 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: entrepreneurs that are growth oriented and solopreneurs looking to become entrepreneurs. 60 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: And so there's a wide spectrum of individuals that can 61 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: apply for that program and that can be a part 62 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: of that program. One two. It's really not about DII 63 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: or anything of that nature. It's about who are the 64 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: growth engines. And if you look at who the growth 65 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: engines are in the US economy, and I would argue, 66 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 2: in the global economy, we know it's small business, it's entrepreneurs. 67 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: So that program is about feeding those small businesses with 68 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: the capital, the know how, the network in order to grow. 69 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: And here's a couple of things I would underscore when 70 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: you look at the data. If you're able to close 71 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: the earningscap for black women in the United States, you're 72 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: able to increase US GDP by anywhere from three hundred 73 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: and fifty to four hundred and fifty billion dollars. You're 74 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: able to create one point three to one point seven 75 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: million jobs. Those aren't jobs for black individuals. Those are 76 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: just jobs in the US economy for whomever chooses to 77 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: take those jobs. And so if you look at the 78 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: overall impact, the blast radius of these types of programs 79 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: catches a very very wide net of individuals that contributes 80 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: to jobs and economic growth. 81 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: And do you think that that economic case then shields 82 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: the organization from criticism if that comes. And that's the 83 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: sense that we're getting from many people who have backed 84 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: Donald Trump of being against ESGDI programs or initiatives. 85 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: I think it does a couple of things. One is, 86 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 2: I think looking at the eligibility criteria of the programs 87 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: are particularly important. And obviously everything that we do is 88 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: in compliance with laws and regulations, and so I think 89 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: that's one insulator, if you will. But I also think 90 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: that larger economic case is a really important one. We've 91 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: underscored that in our Black Womenomics report, and so yes, 92 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: I think that that trifecta of those things I think 93 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: is particularly important. 94 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: What do you think the young people and the analysts 95 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 3: who are going to be taking part in the event 96 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: today are going to be looking to do with the money, 97 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: And also how did they actually win that two hundred 98 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 3: and fifty thousand dollars. I mean, it's interesting that they 99 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: get to pick, you know, what they're going to put 100 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: that money towards. How do they get it? And why 101 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 3: did you choose to do this kind of a competition. 102 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 2: You know, it's a great question, Caroline, because if you 103 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: were to look at most corporations, decisions around impact and 104 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: philanthropy are reserved for those in the C suite. And 105 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: what we've done with this program is we've really democratized 106 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: access to those dollars. So we've said we're going to 107 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: put that decision making in the hands of our junior 108 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: talent at the firm and have them drive the bus, 109 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 2: have them one identify organizations, have them make a pitch, 110 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 2: and the pitch today is to our CEO, David Solomon 111 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: and other senior leaders Richard not head of our office 112 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: here in the UK, that we'll be making the decision. 113 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: So it is literally a competition on stage where they 114 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: are battling for better the for the for impacts across 115 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 2: the world and some phenomenal organizations that they've chosen and 116 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 2: frankly orgs that we don't always know about. And so 117 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: you're getting this pool of talent really surfacing phenomenal organizations 118 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: doing great work around the UK, but more globally as well. 119 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: Can you tell us a bit about some of those 120 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: organizations that the analysts are pitching to be able to 121 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: night this money. 122 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: To sure I want to highlight the UK team in particular, 123 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: they're pitching for an organization called screen Share. It's an 124 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: all female team and screen Share addresses the issue of 125 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 2: digital exclusion. These are individuals who don't have a device, 126 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: who don't have internet access. We know in the UK 127 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: approximately eleven point nine individuals are in this state where 128 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: they are just not connected. So what's Screen and Share 129 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 2: does is they provide devices, refurbaged devices to these individuals 130 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: with prepaid internet access so they're able to then really 131 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: access job listings, information, education and for the most part 132 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: they target asylum seekers and refugees. 133 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: Okay, I think that sounds yeah, but really nice to 134 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 3: highlight that to our London audience. Well worth it in 135 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 3: terms just of the I suppose what you're hoping to 136 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: build on this long term for Golden Size and the 137 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: Golden six Foundation. What do you think that you hope 138 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: this is going to twigger in those teams that are gonna, 139 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: you know, face the CEO frankly with a pitch, having 140 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: to impress the CEO. What do you hope will be 141 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: developed from this program? 142 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: Three things I would say. One is we want to 143 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: make sure that we're cultivating leaders at the firm and 144 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: so this is a chance for them to sharpen their skills. Two, 145 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 2: we want to make sure that senior leaders are the 146 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: firm are getting access down the pipeline to our analysts. 147 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: So this is a chance for the analyst to really 148 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: you know, you're one year at Goldman Sachs and you're 149 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: getting a chance to be in front of the CEO 150 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: and the entire leadership team. So they get to interact 151 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: with our most senior leadership. Our senior leadership gets interact 152 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: with them. And then it's about the organizations. It's about 153 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: the hundreds of thousands of dollars that these organizations will 154 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: receive and the impact that it will have on the 155 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: communitating in general. So it's that sort of combination of 156 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: things that cocktail that I think is particularly important to us. 157 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: What's interesting to note is that when we look at 158 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: the data of our analysts who've participated in the program, 159 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: we see that ninety six percent of them say that 160 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: it's improved their leadership and strategic development skills, it's improved 161 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: their communication and frankly, their connectivity with the organization. 162 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 3: Okay, I think that's great. The other UK issue, though, 163 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: is we've got mandatory gender pay gap reporting in the UK. 164 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 3: There's a debate about whether that should be extended to 165 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 3: ethnic pay gap reporting. Also some debate around that issue. 166 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 3: It does seem to be that with the us where 167 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: it is now, the flow may be very much against that. 168 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: Are you in favor of ethnicity pay gap reporting? You know? 169 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: It's Here's what I would say. I would highlight our 170 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: partner class that was just announced last week. We had 171 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: twenty six percent of the ninety five new partners are women. 172 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: It's the largest number of women promoted to a partnership 173 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: in Goldman Zac's history, almost twenty seven percent of that class. 174 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: I'm actually the global sponsor of the Women's network at 175 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 2: the firm, and so as I think about sort of 176 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: the efforts that we've undertaken, I think we've made strong 177 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 2: strides in growing our pipeline and our investment there. Obviously, 178 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: we think that there's more work to do, but I'd 179 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: really focus there because that's about what an organization's doing 180 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 2: in a very tang way to increase their pipeline and 181 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: cultivate that next generation of leaders. 182 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: Okay Asa, great to have you with us in studio. 183 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time this morning. That's 184 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 1: Sosai Pompey, Global head of Corporate Engagement and Presents of 185 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: Goldman Sachs Foundation.