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Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue,

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Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Marking, Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers at Law.

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Speaker 1: We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Cannabis Talk one on one Monday. Is Blue alongside

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Speaker 1: of me, is Joe Grande and Mr Craig Washerman. And

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Speaker 1: you don't I want to say something. I am so

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Speaker 1: happy to be a part of the My Heart family

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know what do you say that I

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Speaker 1: and Tie and Tie Alex and it's getting too much, no,

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Speaker 1: because we just had a big hour meeting right now

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Speaker 1: And Holly could feel that way. I was, I can work.

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Speaker 1: for joining Cannabis Talk one on one. Joe let us

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Speaker 1: so many great voice feelers. I've been going through and

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Speaker 1: Underscore in between each of those words right there, Little

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Speaker 1: I am at Joe Grande fifty two, and today on

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Speaker 1: the show, we have a very special guest. I was

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Speaker 1: she was coming up in her rankings. But now I

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Speaker 1: feel honored because I in Orange County representative as well,

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Speaker 1: and she represents us in Orange County. She's from the

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Speaker 1: Irvine council member. She's an attorney Melissa Fox since she

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Speaker 1: has a candidate for the State Assembly for the House district.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Melissa. How are you hey. I'm

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Speaker 1: great and I'm happy to be here. Good to see

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Speaker 1: you guys. It's been a bit, Yeah, it has, it has.

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Speaker 1: I mean the last time I think when we met

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Speaker 1: weed Maps mixer. Your husband was there as well. We

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Speaker 1: State Assembly, that's what you're running for the sixth House district.

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Speaker 1: So what's that question is this? What what do they

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Speaker 1: member and attorney Melissa Fox. She's a candidate for the

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Speaker 1: I absolutely hope too. And I would be representing Anaheim Hills.

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Speaker 1: prove that that's why he's alive today, but I can

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Speaker 1: tell you I can prove that cannabis has helped his

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Speaker 1: symptoms going through chemo and absolutely, And it's so funny

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Speaker 1: that I didn't even remember that he used to be

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Speaker 1: on the on the bench a little bit. Yeah there

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Speaker 1: was cannabis. You know. I make sure you send him

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Speaker 1: our love, you know, because we do remember meeting him

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Speaker 1: at uh the weed maps and um, you know, he

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Speaker 1: seemed like a very nice guy. And so you know,

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Speaker 1: our prayers are out with you guys, and everything out

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Speaker 1: reached the full recovery and and just an amazing life

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Speaker 1: through that process. Um, you know, my father passed coming

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Speaker 1: up on five years now. That's awesome, that's awesome. So

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Speaker 1: we must have known each other for well, I know

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Speaker 1: that we met so early. You know, that was so

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Speaker 1: long ago that it was before we really had any

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Speaker 1: and I was on board before I had any personal

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Speaker 1: experience in my own life. Correct. And I can second

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Speaker 1: that we do not have a flipper here. Yes, no,

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Speaker 1: we we call we call people that have are just

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Speaker 1: coming over to the industry to try and get the vote.

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Speaker 1: We call them flippers because they're flipping over now to

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Speaker 1: the cannabis side just to try and just versus somebody

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Speaker 1: like yourself that's been in this you know, fight shot forever.

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Speaker 1: You know, why is that the case too. Why have

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Speaker 1: you been into it since Jump Street? Oh well, you know,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I'm from Orange County, so of course

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Speaker 1: I have a libertarian streak. You know, people should be

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Speaker 1: able to do what they want to do, UM, as

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Speaker 1: long as you're not hurting anybody else. But what really

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Speaker 1: made me, uh get off the bench, I guess, was

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Speaker 1: talking to families that had fought so hard you'd be

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Speaker 1: able to access cannabis for in particular mothers for their children,

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Speaker 1: that they had to manufacture it, that they had to

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Speaker 1: go through all of this you know, horrible UM system

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Speaker 1: to try and get medicine that was made illegal, right.

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Speaker 1: And then the more so that's really what pulled my

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Speaker 1: heart into it. And then the more I learned about

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Speaker 1: it and the social injustice and um, the industry itself,

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Speaker 1: uh just really got me supportive. And UM. I was

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Speaker 1: brought in by uh Fiona ma who was sitting on

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Speaker 1: the Agricultural Committee at the time while she was in

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Speaker 1: the Assembly, and I was shairing the Business and Professions

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Speaker 1: Caucus for the California State Democratic Party and we did

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Speaker 1: a panel on the business at cannabis and so that

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Speaker 1: was really the process. So learning about you know how

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Speaker 1: unfair it was in so many different ways, particularly to families,

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Speaker 1: and you know Charlotte's wedd learning about all of that

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Speaker 1: and then diving more into the importance of cannabis to

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Speaker 1: the state California and farming. Great story. Well, let's break

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Speaker 1: real quick, and we want to come back and do

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Speaker 1: the high five with you. If you don't know who

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Speaker 1: she is, She's a Fox and that's Melissa Fox. We're

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Speaker 1: right back. We are here with Irvine council member and

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Speaker 1: attorney Milissa Fox. He has a candidate for the State

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Speaker 1: Assembly for the House district. How's that, lou Hey, that

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Speaker 1: was pretty good. I mean the way you did that,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like a professional broadcasters my calling that the

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Speaker 1: last part was a little rough, like we said, how's

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Speaker 1: that exactly? That's why you gotta criticize me, no matter

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Speaker 1: what we think. For those who want to find Melissa,

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Speaker 1: you can go to her website Melissa Fox blog dot com.

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Speaker 1: You can also find her Instagram Melissa Fox for California,

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Speaker 1: on Twitter Melissa Joy, which is jo I Fox And

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Speaker 1: I'm actually on another website that I like that. It's

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Speaker 1: just so beautiful as well. It's vote Melissa Fox. So

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Speaker 1: everywhere you look, you gotta find her. Especially if you're

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Speaker 1: in California and you're in the South Orange County area,

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Speaker 1: you definitely want to vote her in for that, and

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Speaker 1: she's doing big things for Irvine and all across uh

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Speaker 1: Orange County. I love hearing your stories and what's going

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Speaker 1: on there, but I want to get into the High

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Speaker 1: five because hearing what you've done, and I want to

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Speaker 1: hear the South Orange County girl when she started smoking

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Speaker 1: a little weed back in the day. I'm almost wondering.

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Speaker 1: Was it Dana Point? Was it Laguna Beach? Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna find out. Scrolled into Hollywood. Question number one on

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Speaker 1: the High Five with Melissa Fox. How old are you

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Speaker 1: the first time you smoked weed? And where'd you get

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Speaker 1: it from? I was fourteen. I was in college and

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Speaker 1: I was in UM. Hold on back up, fourteen in

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Speaker 1: college Washington. You were fourteen years old in college? Yes? Hell,

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Speaker 1: how did that happen? I did a college I got

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Speaker 1: Bragg Smarty Pants, Feel Free Foster Care, and I had

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Speaker 1: a psychologist who recommended that I do a summer course

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Speaker 1: in UM Washington State at Gonzagi University, And so I

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Speaker 1: went there at fourteen for the summer. Wow, that's awesome. Wow, Wow,

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Speaker 1: you're very interesting. What was or is your favorite way

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Speaker 1: to use cannabis? I have been sober for twenty seven years.

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Speaker 1: A well, guess what my birthday's coming up. I'm celebrating

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Speaker 1: twenty two. Hello Fred of Bill, are your fourth of

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Speaker 1: July on the twenty one July. That's so awesome. Congratulations,

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Speaker 1: that's great. Uh so craziest place you've ever used or

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Speaker 1: smoked cannabis? Probably not even interesting. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: couldn't even come one user ever. I just tried it

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Speaker 1: well in the college the first time. It's still pretty

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Speaker 1: crazy back in the day too. Out of college. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that the first time maybe the craziest time. Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: we're smoking. We had a college as it's so normal now,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's still a crazy spot question.

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Speaker 1: It's really young, and I had a roommate and I

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Speaker 1: didn't want to appear like, you know, a kid, so

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Speaker 1: I did what you had to do. I'm a big girl, right.

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Speaker 1: Question number four the high five? What did your go

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Speaker 1: to munchies after you used to get high? Uh? You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not more interesting on these questions about

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Speaker 1: it never was a big monkey person. All right, that's fair.

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Speaker 1: That's a fair question. Now the last question, if if

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Speaker 1: you were smoking, who would you want to smoke with?

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Speaker 1: Whoever is dead or alive? If you just hang out,

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Speaker 1: you could smoke with anyone dead or alive. Who would

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Speaker 1: it be? Oh my gosh, okay, um, it would have

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Speaker 1: to be any of the suffragettes? The who the Suffragetts?

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Speaker 1: Who's Who's that educated? Votes for women? You know? Suffragettes? Badasses? Man?

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Speaker 1: Those are those are the women who brought the woman movement.

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Speaker 1: You probably never saw in that history. Really, guys, I

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Speaker 1: missed it. It's over my head too. I'm sorry. Please

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Speaker 1: educate us on there. If we're the only two who's

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Speaker 1: going to go to jail and be force fed for

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Speaker 1: her right to uh participate in the political process? Is

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Speaker 1: someone I want to hang out with? Yeah? Those guys? Wellelujah. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, we appreciate you being on the show, Melissa,

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Speaker 1: And is there anything that you'd like to share with

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Speaker 1: our listeners here before we let you lose here? Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, Well, you'll ever be a fright to be

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Speaker 1: on the right side of an issue. Very nice, love

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00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: that statement. Isn't that the truth? You know what, people

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Speaker 1: go out there and vote Melissa Fox. You to find

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Speaker 1: her again the website Melissa Fox blog dot com. She's

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Speaker 1: on Instagram at Melissa Fox for California, Twitter Melissa Joy Fox,

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Speaker 1: which is jo I and that's f o X. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for everything you do. I love hearing all these

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Speaker 1: great comments from these guys that have said things about you.

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Speaker 1: And Mark couldn't be here today because on vacation he

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Speaker 1: was talking high Live. You said hello, yes, so thank

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Speaker 1: you and keep you in the good work and listen. Guys,

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Speaker 1: if you want to contact this, go ahead and call on,

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Speaker 1: leave a message. You could join the show, get your

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Speaker 1: voice out and maybe may it be heard. It's Cannabis

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Speaker 1: Talk one oh one. Remember this. If no one else

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