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Speaker 1: Steve Lacey bad habits on Kiss Good Morning.

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Speaker 2: How is it going so far? Has it gone right

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Speaker 2: or wrong? Yet? Already? If it's gone wrong, make it right.

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Speaker 2: If it's going right, don't move.

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Speaker 1: Don't leave, stay there all right, let's see, Tanya, you're

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Speaker 1: about to get into a trending report.

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Speaker 2: What do you have?

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Speaker 3: There's a stigma against women when they say that they

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Speaker 3: don't want to have kids, and Caitlin Bristow, former Bachelorette,

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Speaker 3: is trying to fight against that.

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Speaker 2: I'm interested in hearing about this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is an interesting conversation because I have a

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Speaker 3: few friends that are kind of in the same boat,

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Speaker 3: and people give them looks.

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Speaker 4: Like why would you never want to have kids? It's

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Speaker 4: just the purpose of life.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know what your story is yet, but

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Speaker 1: I was literally a barbecue seven days ago, six days ago,

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Speaker 1: a few days ago, and there's a dad talking about

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Speaker 1: playing tennis with his kid, and he's like, that's so

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Speaker 1: much fun. I go out and I played tens with

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Speaker 1: my kid, you know, so it's.

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Speaker 2: Great you have kids. I'm like, no, why not? You

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Speaker 2: really should?

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Speaker 4: That's an odd question.

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Speaker 2: But people, I can't believe people that they're very comfortable.

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Speaker 2: I have to tell you, I'm starting out like I

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Speaker 2: want to say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you should just say yes, I do have kids.

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Speaker 1: That's around my life, my go to exactly.

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Speaker 2: I work with Tanya and Siciny and myself and like that.

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Speaker 4: And you have your niece and you have your godchildren.

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Speaker 1: And I know, but I have this like I almost

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Speaker 1: get anxious with the answer because they're so you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: deliberate about saying, really.

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Speaker 2: Well, what's the purpose of life?

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Speaker 1: And I'm like undecided, undecided, undecided. Anyway, what's the story?

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Speaker 4: Well, kids are.

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Speaker 3: The topic of conversation a lot recently because Caitlin Bristow.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember her. She was the Bachelorette.

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Speaker 4: Do you remember her?

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Speaker 2: Was she here on this show? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, multiple times. She was like on the Bachelor, then

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Speaker 4: she was the.

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Speaker 3: Bachelorette, then she was on Dancing with the Stars.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was like me that the franchise just

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Speaker 1: has this like it's like like tagliatinigli whatever this thin

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Speaker 1: thick noodle is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: So she was engaged to Jason Tartik and they recently

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Speaker 3: just announced that they split up, so they ended there.

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Speaker 3: I know, shocker, truly. They announced that their engagement is over,

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Speaker 3: and so she's been talking a lot on her podcast

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Speaker 3: about the shame and the about not wanting.

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Speaker 4: To have kids.

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Speaker 3: She said, I have a huge fear of having kids

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Speaker 3: because of all of this, because of what life could

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Speaker 3: look like in ten years with all things that we're

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Speaker 3: talking about.

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Speaker 4: And then there's shame around that.

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Speaker 3: Too, because how could you not want to That's what

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Speaker 3: you were born to do, is pro create, and you know,

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Speaker 3: that's the shame around all that with not having kids.

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Speaker 3: And I was reading this article and I just felt

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Speaker 3: like it was very relatable because I too have some

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Speaker 3: friends that aren't really sure, like they don't know if

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Speaker 3: they want to have kids, and it's always I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm you know, do what you want to do. But

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Speaker 3: I've seen them have this conversation or say that out

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Speaker 3: loud in public and people kind.

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Speaker 4: Of be like, what are you going to do with

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Speaker 4: your life then?

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Speaker 3: Or like, you know what I mean, Like the judgment

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Speaker 3: comes right after they say it, and it's it's just

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Speaker 3: so weird to me, because why does everybody have to

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Speaker 3: have kids in order to.

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Speaker 4: Know the meaning of life? Or like whatever they say,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: They don't put people, as we were saying, are very

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Speaker 1: comfortable asking the question, and also people very comfortable with

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Speaker 1: me saying, well, you should have kids.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to be that old father dropping them

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Speaker 2: off at school.

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Speaker 4: Like so avasive.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm kind of used to it now though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, used to it, I know. But it's so like

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Speaker 3: people are having kids. There's thirty years age gap.

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Speaker 4: In some people's families.

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Speaker 1: You probably should think about this a little bit. It's

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Speaker 1: probably about time I grow up and think you don't

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Speaker 1: have to know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well in this room.

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Speaker 4: Well I feel like you've thought about it.

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Speaker 3: Well, come to no conclusion then yeah, ebbs and flows.

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Speaker 1: I just I think I'm frozen at like being a kid.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing. I still feel like I'm frozen in

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Speaker 2: being not truly.

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Speaker 4: By You're truly not ready until it actually is happening.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm spoken from the one who was not.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yes, could I have waited?

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Speaker 2: Probably? What if? Who knows? What if you have kids?

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Speaker 2: What do you do with them?

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Speaker 1: I got a four pack of family four pack for

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Speaker 1: you and kids coming up next to kiss