WEBVTT - Week 3, Episode 2: How Brady-Belichick will gameplan, Bears need immediate change, Why good teams are playing poorly 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:07.120 Welcome back to another episode of Tap Pens Babo Shoes 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:09.520 at Scott Pioli Dan Orlovski is so glad that you 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:11.159 can be with us to talk football with two of 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:14.520 the best. Scott Pioli, of course, longtime general manager, breaks 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:16.680 down the xers and os with that personnel bent and 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:19.720 Dan Orlovsky. You always see him on ESPN, my college 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:22.959 football partner as well, in front of the tellustrator breaking 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:25.759 down film. That's what we do. We get behind the 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:29.000 exers and osk here on ta peds and talk football 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:31.480 and guys. As far as I know, I think Matt 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:34.559 Maggie is still the head coach the Chicago Bears. Dan 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.640 should he be? There's the jumping off point. If there's 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:41.160 a Bears fan out there, they want us to try 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:44.560 and solve their problems with Justin Fields at quarterback. Can 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.720 we are these solvable problems? I mean they're solvable problems 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:51.560 with different people running the operation and stewarding his development. Yes, 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:53.480 I said after the game, I don't think that Matt 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:55.520 Maggie should be the head coach anymore, and I would be. 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:58.640 I would argue with anybody till the day goes dark. 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:02.120 Give me reasons why give me reasons why? So to 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.840 the football game, Justin Fields through twenty passes. Thirteen of 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:08.440 those passes were in five man protection with not a 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:12.119 single help to anyone on their offensive line. I don't 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.400 care who you are. That's not smart against the Browns. 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.920 Go watch the Houston Texans game the week before. They 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:20.399 shipped Miles Garrett almost every play. Let me know what 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:24.440 Myles Garrett did in that game. So that's issue number one. 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:27.399 They didn't move Justin Fields and athletic quarterback that's got 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:31.280 dynamic playmaking ability, big, strong, powerful and fast. They didn't 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:33.480 move into the middle of the second quarter outside the pocket. 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:36.600 That's that's coaching mal practice. They moved them three times 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:41.360 total in the game outside the pocket. That's coaching malpractice. Um. 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:45.399 They went max max protection, uh, with seven men in protection. 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:49.760 One time. They had three snaps under center. Justin Fields 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:54.000 spent the majority of his college career under center. They 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:56.400 didn't use a single play action pass from under center. 0:01:56.680 --> 0:02:01.760 They ran one snap with motion one. It's so my 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.840 thing is, you had a hundred and forty hundred and 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:08.280 forty nine days since the moment that you made the 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:11.760 decision to take those picks, trade up and go get 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:15.000 him a hundred and forty nine days to start building 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:19.519 cultivating this game plan that was gonna be different because 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:25.320 the player's skills are different, and you did nothing. And 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:29.000 so my my opinion on it, my thought on it 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:31.960 is you're one of two things. You Either did it 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.960 intentionally to try and prove a point, and I know 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:36.960 what that is. When I say those words out loud, 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.639 I hope that's that's not the case, or you are 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:45.240 incapable of doing it. And if that's the case, how 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.760 can you remain in that position? You didn't do it 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:52.600 with Mitter Drabinski. You've had a hundred and forty nine 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:56.440 days and you didn't do it with Justin. What makes 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.480 me think you'll do it by next weekend or the 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.720 following week gend or the following weekend. I just it 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:08.280 was an incredibly terrible game plan. Dan. I wish we 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:12.520 all had our the listeners had viewing ability to watch 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:19.639 you right now. Um, I M a little bit. The 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:21.520 way you're grabbing your head. I thought it was gonna explode, 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.799 But um, you know, here here's the thing. And I'm 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.040 not going to get into people getting fired or whether 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:30.120 they should be or shouldn't be. But here's I'm not 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:32.600 a coach, but here's what I do know from a 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:34.920 little bit of coaching that I did. You know, I 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:38.200 was and working in front offices, UM there are way 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:41.080 different ways to protect the quarterback. And I was really 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.520 spoiled over throughout my career. You know, when I started 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.080 as a graduate assistant coach, George di Leone was the 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:51.080 offensive line coach and UM offensive coordinator at Syracuse, and 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.160 back then we ran what was called the freeze option, 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:57.280 and the freeze option is not too dissimilar from what 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.600 we see now, which is r P O S and 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:01.680 off of the freeze option, there are a couple of 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:05.240 play action passes, but it was the detail of the 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.680 play fakes and the first two steps of the offensive 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.120 line that were critical. And then later throughout my career 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.480 got a chance to work, you know, with Kirk Ferrence, 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:15.040 with Pat Hill, who went on to become the head 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:18.880 coach Frezo State, fantastic offensive line coach Bill Murra who 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:20.960 was a great offensive line coach, and then of course 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.520 the great Dante Scarneck. You So, I got really spoiled 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:28.039 because these coaches, the offensive line coaches and or coordinators 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.479 were all aware of the strengths and limitations of the players. 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.880 They love their guys, right, they love their offensive lineman, 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:37.520 but they were acutely aware of the strengths and limitations, 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:39.720 and they would make sure that the coordinators would do 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.480 different things to help with the protection, and that help 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:46.880 would come by virtue of play calling, play action, the 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:49.679 use of screens and draws. Right, we all know about chips, 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:52.040 you know you can do, but the use of screens 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:55.040 and draws. You know, one way to possibly slow down 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:58.839 a defensive line charge is to make the defense hesitate 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.880 for one split second to get them tired, get them 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:04.880 chasing up field, and then screen him, get him chasing 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:08.600 up field, and then go draw. And if you can 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:12.040 get that split second and good play action, that can 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:15.600 be the difference between not only a sack, but also 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.719 that split second for a receiver to create some sort 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.160 of separation for a ball to get in. So there's 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:24.000 so many different ways, you know, we can't just say 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:27.360 it's the offensive line is awful. Um it doesn't look 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.400 very good, but you've got to find ways. Also, again, 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:34.240 you accentuate the positive and limit the limitations through play calling, 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:39.200 through formations, through setting things up and Scott that's like, 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:43.440 that's my sticking point of this whole situation is if you, 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:48.359 as a coach, are gonna sit there and say or imply, 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:51.520 you know, I don't want to put him out there 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:54.440 because he's not totally ready just yet. I'm okay with that. 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:58.520 I get that. No rookies ready most second quarter your 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:02.920 quarterbacks are. It's hard, it's a hard position. Then you 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:07.240 better not to ask him one single time to do 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:11.400 the things that you believe he's not ready to do. 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.240 You know, if Justin Fields had gone out in that 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.920 game and stunk it up, but they went with eight 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:22.839 quarterback runs and they did twelve bootlegs, and they ran 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.960 five screen passes and a couple of quick games and 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.560 they stunk. At least I can sit there and say, 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.200 all right, Justin Fields was he's not ready to go 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.719 operate that stuff yet. This offense is still too lacking 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.400 in talent. And I gotta give credit to Matt Naggie 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:40.599 because he tried, he gave, he did is all he 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:42.760 could to try to figure out a way to manufacture 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:46.360 some good offense. That wasn't the case. And that's why 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:50.520 that's why I talked about the thing because this wasn't 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:54.320 If Matt Naggie had drafted mac Jones, then that would 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.680 be the offense that I expected on Sunday. That would 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.640 be the offense schematically that I would expect it. Shoot. 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.800 If he drafted Zack Wilson or Trevor that would be 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:06.600 an offense that I expected a little bit. The reality 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:10.240 is you drafted a player that has a physical skill set, 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.800 like a Dak Prescott or a Cam Newton. So those 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.720 are the things that you should be doing. And the 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.280 fact that you didn't do that that's why I talk 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:23.840 about the h days. I'm I question why how? Because 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:25.880 if I can see it, and you can see it, 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:27.680 and my wife can see it, and my kids can 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:29.520 see it, and the people across the street can see 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:33.160 If everyone, for the most part can see it, how 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:37.520 does the person not in control of it not see it? 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:39.720 Could the guys from Derby see do you think, Dan? 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:45.080 I don't think so. I mean seeing decades of their performance, No, 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.760 I don't. I don't think it is a good point though, 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.200 because obviously I'm watching Zach Wilson, and I am watching 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.640 him look like he is looking at a defense where 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:54.840 there might be seventeen guys on the field. At least 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:56.960 that's the way he's playing. But then you compare him 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:59.040 to Trevor Lawrence, you compare me even to the game 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.720 Matt Jones played this past week. It's okay for a 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:05.840 rookie to struggle. Playing quarterback in the NFL is really 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:08.720 really hard. Number one and number two, The guys like 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:12.560 Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady and Russell Wilson and Matt Stafford, 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.880 so on and so forth, who are really good at it, 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:18.600 make the fans think it's a lot easier to do 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:22.239 than it actually is. So when they're watching justin Field struggle. 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.720 But you're right, the the frustration is is his team 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:29.240 doing everything or even anything right now to put him 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.080 in the right position. And conversely, now we see Baker 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.800 Mayfield right like Dan, you've seen Baker Mayfield now and 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:36.320 we've got about a minute, minute and a half left 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:38.520 in this segment. So, guys, just a quick thought on 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:42.120 why Baker has taken the steps forward that he has 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:45.079 taken when you compare and contrast him with playing justin 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.440 fields in that game. I would say, for someone myself 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.360 who's had Baker's back through all of his NFL career, 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.280 the highs and the lows, I've had his back. This 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:54.800 is one of the games that I was at least 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:58.280 most proud of his performance. There's four or five plays 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:02.520 in this game where he holds the ball and tucks 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:06.080 in and runs, holds the ball, throws it away, and 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:09.560 and that to me is going ha, He's realizing the 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.480 only way, the only way they lose this football game 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.960 is if he does something stupid with the football. And 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.360 that is growth and maturity and development in ownership of 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.320 the game. And that's the greatness. That's what the greats 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.560 have always done. And I just I was proud of 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:28.640 the way he game managed this game. Yeah, and I'll 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:30.880 say this. You know, you said a keyword, and this 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.400 was the word I was thinking this entire week after 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:37.040 the last couple of days after watching He's always been smart. 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.400 He hasn't always played with maturity and made mature decisions. 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:44.720 And I'm not saying he's immature. He made some extremely 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.959 mature decisions that were in the great for the greater 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.600 good of the team and not trying to do too much. 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:53.400 We can both things are critical being smart and mature. 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:55.840 You know the other thing, I think it's helping Baker Mayfield. 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.520 He's got the to the best one to running back 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:02.160 combination in the National Football League. You go back and 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.880 you watch that fourth quarter, and I watched it closely. 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.520 They went at a three tight end sets, different formations, 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.120 but three tight end set and they ran the ball 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:15.240 fifteen times, not counting the neel downs, fifteen times for 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:18.280 a buck one a hundred and one yards because they 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.000 just brought it. And when you as a quarterback have 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.760 that threat and you have you know, last week I 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:28.599 talked about the the extended running game, having the flexibility 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.960 with Kareem Hunt and have it's like having Kevin Falk. 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:36.600 It's like having It's like having any good We used 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.680 to call them third down backs, but down they're change 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.640 of pace backs or they're receiving backs. Those things are 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:44.880 definitely helping mature. Hey, this is a sport about difference makers, 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.080 and they've got difference makers on that side of the ball. 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:50.040 There was no doubt about it. Now some teams that 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.440 right now are stumbling, the Colts the Seahawks. Is their 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:56.520 hope for both of those teams to rebound and maybe 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:58.320 make a playoff run. Those are two teams. We look 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:02.280 at what we come back on tapeds. Welcome back to 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:05.280 Tay Pets, Bobo Shoots and Scott Pioli Dan Orlovsky. Alright, 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.240 two teams that at the start of the season we 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:11.360 thought could have Super Bowl aspirations, sputtering to say the 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.000 least to start off the year. The Seahawks will get 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.280 to them. At a second. Let's start Dan with the 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.240 Colts because one of your all time favorites. Obviously Carson 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:23.960 Wentz getting a fresh start in Indianapolis, but they are 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.679 oh and three. What is going on and how do 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.360 they fix it? Here's where I am with the Colts. Obviously, 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:31.920 we know that the schedule was daunting and they've dealt 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:36.040 with some stuff with injuries. Carson Wentz hasn't had practice time, 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:39.800 you know, and really the whole year outside of the springtime, 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:43.320 and that's showing itself a little bit. Now. Carson Wentz 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.600 is playing good. He's not playing great, and he's not 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.760 playing bad. He's playing good. The offensive line is not 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.440 a shell of what it was, nor what it was 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:55.280 expected to be. Their right tackles not playing. Nelson goes out, 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.120 their center is not playing nearly as good as I expect. 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:00.079 I thought this again, would be a one of the 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.280 offensive lines in the NFL that we would go, hey, 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:04.640 look at all the protection in the run game that's 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:06.560 being afforded, and this offense can do a lot of 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:08.960 different stuff. And so a lot of the things that 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:12.640 we saw start to play itself out in Philadelphia for 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:16.880 Carson Wentz are playing themselves out in Indianapolis, and that's 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:20.400 shocking to me. So it's really difficult to gauge what 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:22.880 the offenses right now by the player, their offensive line. 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:26.040 Their red zone performance has just been poor. They get 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:28.200 down in the red zone because they move the ball 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.600 relatively well, they get down there and they just stall 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:34.360 out the run game. It's it's sometimes I feel like 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:37.640 the backs are just trained so much just go ahead, 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.280 you know, when they're not necessarily running with great vision. 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:44.120 And then in the past game there's the other day 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:46.240 they have Michael Pittman on a crosser. I think he 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.800 gets tugged on a small little post. I think he 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:52.160 gets tugged and that becomes just an inches out extension 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:54.640 miss and then on third down Zack Pasco drops the ball. 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:58.400 They're not equipped enough to overcome some of that stuff 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:02.079 they missed. He why Hilt and speed. Beyond words, they 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.120 just don't have any kind of vertical threat in their 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.080 past game. It's all catch dingk dunk catching and throws 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:10.120 are difficult right now for this offense when it comes 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:12.760 to guys at least stretching the field. I would like 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.640 to see them put Carson Wentz under center more used 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.680 more hardball play Ashton to try to generate some of 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:23.120 those three level, big chunk throws. I think that's what 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.240 this offense now. They got to hang in there. It's 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.080 a long season and this schedule has been daunting, but 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.800 I think that's a little wrinkle that they can put 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.160 into their offense to try to generate some more success. 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.400 And it Scott to Dan's point. I mean, right now, 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.440 you got Jonathan Taylor, who wasn't really a pass catching threat. 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:42.800 He's averaging about fifties seven yards a game rushing. They're 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:46.560 probably pretty predictable when he's on the field personnel wise, 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.800 But how how from a personnel standpoint would you try 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.600 and mix up an offense right now that, as as 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.160 Dan said, underachieving, especially with an offensive line that's not 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.079 nearly what we thought it would be. Yeah, and Dan 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.680 brought up a great point. You know, but I the 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:01.560 one player that I want to put a little bit 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:05.280 of emphasis on is the absence of Quentin Nelson. You know, 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:09.600 we talked earlier this week and we're talking about the 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:14.200 Cowboys and the importance of Zack Martin. That's who Quentin 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:19.280 Nelson is. He brings not only his physical you know ability, 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:23.000 but he brings his style of play and it is infectious. 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:26.280 So to me, the absence of that, compounded by the 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:30.160 inconsistency at the quarterback position and people that they're just 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.520 an offense that can't get into rhythm there without t 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:36.080 Y Hilton. You're talking about three players that are probably 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:41.000 the best at certainly the best offensive lineman, certainly the 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:44.720 most important wide receiver, and their best quarterback. So when 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:49.320 you have, you know, circumstances like that and your offense 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.720 isn't doing enough to sustain drives, that puts additional stress 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:55.280 on the defense. So as a team, the other two 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:58.320 facets of the meaning defense and special teams are going 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.080 to feel the impact of the offense not playing well. 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.520 So to me, some of the injuries and the absence 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:05.800 of the players they have and who they are and 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.760 how important they are in terms of again just their 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:12.400 identity and their style of play is a real problem. Bob. 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:14.720 Can they fix it? I guess that's the big question. 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.040 I'm not a doctor. If they get healthy, I think 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:19.680 they can fix it. But to your point and and question, 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:23.560 yes they can if they're healthy. And that's always the magic, 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:26.440 you know, the magic question. You know, we're again not 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.840 to digress here, but we're talking about the Buccaneers. One 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.120 of the things that are that's different about the Buccaneers 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:33.360 this year, they were one of the healthiest teams in 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.760 all of football. They had the fourth healthiest offensive line. 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:40.200 When you have a team that stays healthy and players 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.560 work together and you can evolve and grow and there 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.120 aren't those hiccups, you know, that was part of the 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.840 Buccaneers magic. Right now, you're looking at the Buccaneers. Their 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.680 defense is having a lot of issues because they're without 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:56.520 two really important secondary players and it manifests itself into inconsistency. 0:15:56.560 --> 0:16:00.160 So if they get healthy or healthier, they will have 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.080 a chance because they're really well coached and they know 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.320 what to do. Yeah, there are certain teams in the 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:08.280 NFL where you know, they have the ability to be 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.640 kind of chameleon like, but there are other teams in 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.360 the NFL where you look at their roster and you say, 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:15.560 all right, we know how this team wants to play. 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.040 They want to mash you with their offensive line. They 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.480 want to run the football. They want to have you know, 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.680 as you guys said, speed on the outside and a 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:26.400 t Y Hilton where you can go hard play action 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.520 after we run it at you. And right now, they 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.600 can't do either of those things because they're they're just 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.880 not healthy enough to execute the way you know they 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.160 want to play, and that has to be really frustrating. 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.440 Dam Let's switch gears and talk about the Seahawks. How 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:41.400 can they fix it? For the second week in a row. 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.120 The realities that Seahawks defense cannot get off the field. 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:46.960 If you go watch their Week one performance against the coach, 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.200 you go, okay, you know, you know that we were 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:52.640 able to create some pressure on the quarterback. We can 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:54.440 get off the field. The last two weeks, they haven't 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.600 been able to get off the field. Their third down coverage, 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:01.040 the leverage that they play with is the complete opposite 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.159 of a team like the Los Angeles Rams. Defensively, the 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.320 Rams play with great leverage. If it's covered three, you've 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:10.440 got to be in the right position flat defender, hook defender. 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.440 If it's covered one and we're playing outside leverage because 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.879 we're playing a cover one robber or thief for whole 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:20.000 you gotta play on their proper leverage, funnel people to 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:23.480 the right guys. They're not doing that, and it's making 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:28.399 it so easy for offenses, especially in crucial situations, third 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:32.879 down situations when game plan specific stuff come into play, 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.240 and that's hurt them. Of the last two weeks, defensively, 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.760 their offense has been okay. They've sputtered at moments. They've 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.920 had some things easy early on for they can't get 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.439 off the field on third down. They've got to change, 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:45.280 not do I want to say changed, They've got to 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:50.199 really get precise and refine the rules of their coverage. Well, 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.720 it's got the defense obviously a problem, But are their 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:56.320 offensive issues for the Seahawks as well? And what buttons 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.840 does Pete Carroll push to make it right? Pete is 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:00.639 gonna push the buttons. He's all is gonna push the 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.840 buttons on defense. He and Ken Norton Jr. I I 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.320 really believe that they will get the defense right. How 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.320 many times and how many different seasons do we you know, 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.520 the Seattle Seahawks go through a struggle either at the 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.520 beginning the middle, you know, three quarters of the way, 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.440 and what happens is Pete puts on the gloves, goes 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:21.080 to work and starts knocking people out. So I'm not 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.600 too worried about the Seattle Seahawks and their defense. Pete 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:27.520 will get them right and they will start doing things right. Way. 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.479 On the offensive side of the ball, You've still got 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:31.040 a guy who's one of the best quarterbacks in the 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:34.880 National Football League. So again, Russell Wilson, the explosion this 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:39.280 year or the continual growth of Tyler Lockett, what they 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.320 need to do is continue again get off the field 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:44.800 on third down and let their offense go to work, 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:47.920 eat up clock and score points. One of the things 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:49.359 I do want to see them do on offense a 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:51.639 little bit more, though, is get the ball in the 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:53.920 hands of Chris Carson a little bit more. Run the ball. 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:57.440 That's part of Pete's identity, right Pete is he is 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:00.600 not only tough minded, he's just a tough guy, and 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:03.640 and that's the identity of his football teams. I think 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:07.000 we haven't seen the best of the Seahawks yet. But again, 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:09.160 I'm not too worried. I think we're going to get 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:12.080 that as time goes on this season. Have they put 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:14.800 too much over the years on Russell Wilson? Man? It might, 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:18.119 but just be the natural inclination with all of his 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:21.720 ability to maybe look at him and say, look, you 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:24.760 need to be the absolute focal point of everything we do. 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:27.720 Whereas when Russell Wilson was at his best, he had 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:31.200 that pounded at you running game to supplement what he does. 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:33.960 You know, that's a great question, Bob. And here's what 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:37.800 I'll say. Was it the offense and the offensive coordinators 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:41.640 and the play calling that puts used to put too 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.880 much on Russ? Or did Russ put it on himself? 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:48.000 It's different, but similar as I watched Kyler Murray right now, 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:52.320 and the fact is there's place called, there are things 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:55.280 that are supposed to be done, but Kyler Murray makes 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:57.600 the decision he's going to put the offense on his 0:19:57.720 --> 0:19:59.560 back and he's going to do some of these things. 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.399 So I don't know, it's kind of a chicken or 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:06.679 egg thing with me. I don't know if if Russ 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:08.879 did that to himself or if it was part of 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:11.440 the design, But I think his Russ starts to get 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:15.159 a little bit older. Um, let's face it, some of 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:17.800 the dynamics stuff that he does outside the pocket is 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.800 still outstanding. I don't know if he can do it 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:25.320 as to a great level consistently over the course of 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:28.439 a season. So I think that they do need to 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:30.760 think about that. And and going back to the running game, Bob, 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:34.080 that you mentioned and I had mentioned previously, that's always 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:36.800 been a big part of any Pete Carroll football team. 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:39.399 It'll be fascinating to watch these two teams, all the 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:41.800 storylines with the Colts and Seahawks, but there is no 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:45.399 more fascinating matchup for us to talk about than the 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:47.960 one we're gonna get to next, the Mark he matchup 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:52.880