1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Oh, beat force. If it doesn't work, you're just not 2 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: using enough. You're listening to software Gradio, Special Operations, military 3 00:00:25,520 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: news and straight talk with the guys and the community. Hey, 4 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: everybody today, I have a special guest for us, Todd Robinson. 5 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: Todd is a producer, writer, and film director, and he's 6 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: going to be talking about his latest movie, The Last 7 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: Full Measure, which is essentially about a Medal of Honor 8 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: awardy from Vietnamen Air Force pair of rescue. Amazing story. 9 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: Todd and I have known each other for a long time. 10 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: Actually we first met through aviation. Him and I are 11 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: both pilots, so we fly with a group of military guys. 12 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: They get together kind of one twice a year and 13 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a military fight club with airplanes. 14 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: So it's a pretty cool stuff. Todd is an amazing guy. 15 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: In fact, before I met him, one of my favorite 16 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: movies White Squall with Jeff Bridges. I found out later 17 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: it was actually written and directed by Todd as well. 18 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: That that movie I found super fascinating. If you haven't 19 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: watched it, I suggested it. It's an older one, but 20 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: I found it very interesting because you know, I grew 21 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 1: up on a sailboat. You know. I had a similar 22 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: experience with the family on a big storm off the 23 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: coast Oregon as we were sailing down from from Canada. 24 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: We had a lily like shut down and and heave 25 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: too with a sea anchor. For I think it was 26 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: two or three days. But that movie White Squall is incredible. 27 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: Todd is a good friend of mine. Todd also teaches 28 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: at USC, teaches film. Just an all around a great guy. 29 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: Him and I actually partnered with Mark Harmon of n 30 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: c i S on a book to TV series project. 31 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: So we'll get into all that soon and I hope 32 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: you guys will dig it. Todd's a great guy. And 33 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: here we go. All right, Hey, everybody, I got my 34 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: good friend Todd Robinson on the phone, gave gave a 35 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: quick intro. But Todd tell us about the movie. Well, 36 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: the movie is called The Last Full Measure, as you know, 37 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: and it will open on October of this year and 38 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: about theaters across the country. And it has an amazing cast. 39 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: And that's pretty much everything a movie a movie should have. 40 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: That I was assent a lot of drama, a lot 41 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: of the motion and to just to performances, and of 42 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: course it's rooted in a true story that is one 43 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: of the great untold stories to come out of the 44 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: Vietnam War. So it's been a passion of mine for 45 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: a long long time to get it to the screen, 46 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: and we're finally there. Yeah. One of the things I'm 47 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: excited about is I just don't think the Air Force 48 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: Special off community has has gotten, you know, enough props. 49 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: Like you know, the the ASTACK guys are are pretty incredible, 50 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: whether it's the combat controllers or the para rescue guys. 51 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: So it's just nice to see that portion of the story. 52 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: I feel like the Green Bray's and the Navy Seals 53 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: everybody kind of knows knows about that these days, but 54 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: you know it's the Air Force, especially on the rescue side, 55 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: are kind of unsung heroes. Yeah. I think if you 56 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: ask any of the other people you just mentioned, anybody 57 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: in Jay Sack, any of them though they all sure 58 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: know who the pair rescue the pair rescue community is 59 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: because they rely upon them heavily. Obviously, tjs are often 60 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: embedded on the various complex teams for various missions, and 61 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: part of the reason that they're not that well known, 62 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: as I think at any given time. There are only 63 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: around eight active pjs in the entire military, so there's 64 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: not a lot of people to make noise. So again 65 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: we're pleased that this film is is bringing a lot 66 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: of focus and attention onto these people, because any time 67 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: you hear about a bad script overseas, there's usually a 68 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: PJ in the middle of it. Ya credo is the 69 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: things we do that others may live and they truly 70 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: live by that. And whether you're a pilot or a 71 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: guy a soldier on the ground, you know that if 72 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: you get into trouble, if somebody and you're on your 73 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: team gets hurt, these guys are common. Like I say, 74 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: they just salt all the great combat stories with their 75 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: valor and their heroism. So two of my favorite actors, 76 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: Samuel L. Jackson and Ed Harris are both in the movie. 77 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: What was it like working with with those two? And 78 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: I think you've worked with Ed Harris before if I 79 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: remember I have, Yeah, Ed and I are actually pretty 80 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: good personal friends. I don't say that lightly in Hollywood, 81 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: but we've spent a lot of time together, our kids 82 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: grow up together. Um, we played tennis together quite a bit. 83 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: But Ed is one of the one of our great 84 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: American institutions, and at this moment in time, you know, 85 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: he's coming out in the new Top Gun movie, and 86 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: he's already a meme. Great, great for me, you know, 87 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: but no, Ed's a He's just an amazing actor. He's 88 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: a very shy guy. You'd sort of be surprised because 89 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 1: he has this intensity, but he's a very private person. Uh, 90 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: he's very much a family man. And I just love 91 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: Ed and Sam. You know, what can you say about 92 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: Samuel Jackson. He's he's credited with being in the most 93 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: profitable movies of all times. If you add up the 94 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: box office from movies that Samuel Jackson has been in, 95 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: nobody else comes close. And when you when you think 96 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: of his performances over the years, they're truly iconic. And 97 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: he again was like, he's another intense man, but he 98 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: takes his work very seriously. He's always there. He never 99 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: goes to his trailer. You know, he was always present 100 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: on set, ready to go for me. And it was 101 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: just a privilege to work with him. But the movie 102 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: is full of crazy great talent. It stars Sebastian Stand, 103 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: William hurt Is in it, Christopher Plumber is in it, 104 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: Peters Fonda is that it whine as she ate she 105 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: is in it. It just goes on and on. It's 106 00:06:55,360 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: just an amazing cast of people. And because just give 107 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: your your listeners a little insight into what the movie 108 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: is about. In nineteen six and six April twelve, Charlie 109 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: Company of the first Infantry Division, part of the Big 110 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: Red One, was sent into a triple canopy jungle as 111 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: sort of the tip of the spear on a certain 112 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: destroy mission. They were going to sort of root out 113 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: a battalion sized force of a real combat trained uh 114 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: North Vietnamese soldiers called D eight hundred. They went in 115 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: in three columns. Charlie Company was in the middle and 116 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: Alfan Bravo flanked them, and the idea was to go 117 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: in and make contact and then Alfhan Bravo, We're going 118 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: to kind of swing around and they were going to 119 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: surround them and destroy them. And what actually happened was 120 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: Charlie Company made contact. And what no one knew except 121 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: the North Vietnamese was that embedded in the triple canopy 122 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: jungle were forced of bamboo and they were and I'm 123 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: talking about the big stuff that's like eight inches around. 124 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: So Charlie Company went in, they were trapped. It turned 125 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: out that there were it was about a hundred and 126 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: thirty four Americans up against seven hundred vietnames Viet Cong 127 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: H in spider holes on the ground, bunkers and in 128 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: the trees, and it was pretty much a blood bath. 129 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: Charley Company took about casualties thirty five k I A 130 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: s something like that, and it was it was just 131 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: a really tough day. In the end, they brought artillery, 132 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: one of five howitz or rounds right on top of 133 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: the position and slowly, after about eighteen hours of fighting, 134 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: ended up decimating the eight hundred and d. Eight hundred 135 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: never came back as a useful fighting unit. But in 136 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: the middle of all this carnage, there was no way 137 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: to get the American soldiers out because at that time 138 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: the Army didn't have winces on the helicopters, and it 139 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: being a triple canopy jungle, the tallest trees were over 140 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: a hundred deep tall. And so the Air Force guys, 141 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: including the pj's pair of rescue you out of ben Wah, 142 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: heard this come over you flash traffic over the over 143 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: the radio, and they volunteered to go and they flew 144 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: these funky little birds called Age thirty three came in huskies, 145 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: very small helicopter's CREWEL four uh and they could accommodate 146 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: two litters. I don't know how they're so small. And 147 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: so what they found kind of a hole and Charlie 148 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: Company had made a perimeter and at the center of 149 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: that perimeter they assembled their wounded. But they were as 150 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: the pjs came in and were dropping litters in. The 151 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: guys on the ground didn't know how to load them, 152 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: and so they were stuff and hold jungle litters in 153 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: them and they couldn't get them in the helicopters. And 154 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: as a mess and kicking, Barger volunteered to go down 155 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: Bill Pitts and Barger call signed Pits And he was 156 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: only twenty one years old. He was a veteran of 157 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: over three rescue missions at that point. And so he 158 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: went down on a jungle penetrator and got on the 159 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: ground and saw what was going on, and he treased 160 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: many many people, got many of them up into the 161 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: helicopters that they had to rotating union out. One of 162 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: them eventually was shot down. Eventually he had the opportunity, well, 163 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: he had multiple opportunities to leave but there came a 164 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: point where the fire became so intense that his CEO 165 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: ordered him back up, and he waved them off and 166 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: refused to go back up and stayed on the ground, 167 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: collected ammunition, water, anything that could be useful, tried to 168 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: help the guys their perimeter kept collapsing, and fought alongside 169 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: these men that he didn't even know. And they were 170 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: sort of flabbergasted by this. They looked up and saw 171 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: this guy coming down in a uh An Air Force 172 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: uniform with blouse, boots and the whole thing, and they 173 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: just couldn't believe it, and they're like, who is this knucklehead? 174 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: You know? So anyway, in the end, he was fatally killed. 175 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: And what the movie is really about is that thirty 176 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: two years after his death, the army guys they called 177 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: it themselves mud Soldiers, realized, with the advent of the Internet, 178 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: that they had put him up for the Medal of 179 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: Honor in sixty six, but he had never gotten the medal. 180 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: It went all the way up to the White House, 181 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: it went up as a medal of honor, and it 182 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: was kicked back down as an Air Force cross. So 183 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: what the movie is about are these veterans thirty some 184 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: odd years later coming together and enlisting the help of 185 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: the young Washington bureaucrat who wants nothing to do with this, 186 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: to petition Congress to look at this whole thing to 187 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: see if it's worthy of consideration. And so that's really 188 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: what the story is about. But we go back and forth. 189 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: So Sebastian stand placed this young bureaucrat and he's interviewing 190 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: these dogs of warlike Sam Bill and Ed Harris. So 191 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: that's sort of the structure of the film. Oh what 192 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: amazing story. I mean, it's I just think about how 193 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: many of these types of stories have still yet to 194 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: be told. I mean, even back to you know, since 195 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: men were fighting wars, opportunity to meet a guy named 196 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: John Fitch, who was a P fifty one ACE, one 197 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: of the only I think one of two to shoot 198 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: down a German jet in World War Two. He said 199 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: he was basically the jet was coming into land with 200 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: no fuel, so shot him like on their glad. But 201 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy ended up getting shot down, gunning 202 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: down a Nazi train, spent time in a prisoner camp, escaped, 203 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: went back into service, stole planes from Germany, crash landed 204 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: him and you know, cross enemy lines. Then went on 205 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: to become a Mercedes racing legend, like the first American 206 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: on on Team Mercedes. Like just these so many of 207 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: these stories out there. So I'm just glad the lost 208 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: Full Measures getting pits is getting getting there do. It 209 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: was a tough row to hope for me. I learned 210 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: about this story working on another project related to the 211 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: Air Force in nineteen nine when this was going through Congress, 212 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: and it took me twenty years to get it made. 213 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: So you know, I would get it set up, it 214 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: was fall apart. I'd get it set up, it would 215 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: fall apart. But war movies are difficult, you know, especially 216 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: like a Yeah you think now and beating On you know, 217 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: ended almost fifty years ago, and you can't I mean, 218 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: there aren't even very many healings left, you know, let 219 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: alone the vehicles and the wardrobe and the weapons and 220 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: all those things that it's difficult to pull them together. 221 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: And in our case, I really wanted to be in 222 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: a pilot like you. I really wanted to fly in 223 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: to be real, and they were trying to talk me 224 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: into doing CG helicopters, and I just thought, you know, 225 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: if an audience, especially a military audience, even sniffs that 226 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: that's not real. Um, they're they're gonna, it's gonna take 227 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: them out of the movie. You know. So we were 228 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: in Thailand, you know, it was a mini version of 229 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: Apocalypse now where we were dealing the Thai Air Force 230 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: and those guys don't want to apply. If it's raining, 231 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: they don't want to apply. At at stark, they don't 232 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: apply if it's cold, at it's hot. So I had 233 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: to do all the all the flying sequences in two 234 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: days and it had originally been planned for like ten. 235 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: So anyway, how do you get the helicopters, like were 236 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: they they still flying Huees and in that specific helicopter 237 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: that that you mentioned the air force guys are in well, 238 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: but yeah, the Husky Unfortunately, there's there's one museum quality 239 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: variant of it up in the Pacific Northwest and logging 240 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: companies still use them. It's a twin rotor, no tail 241 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: rotor with really tremendous listing power. Because they used to 242 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,479 Speaker 1: lift big tanks of home to drop them on burning airplanes. 243 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: There was just no way I could get those birds 244 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: over the Thailand. So Hi Air Force is now going 245 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: to black Hawks at Hawks, but they still had a 246 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: couple of helies left. And so this is a funny 247 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: aside that the movie company's insurance company, so that we 248 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: had to go find the most experienced pilots for those shoies. Well, 249 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: those guys are all kernels and stuff who hadn't flown 250 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: They had the time that they hadn't flown these birds 251 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: in you know, twenty years, so they were all sort 252 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: of terrified to fly them. You know. So anyway, it 253 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: was it was a little bit of a circus. The 254 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: last thing I'll ask you and I'll let you go, 255 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: And I know you want to talk about the charity 256 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: charity as well, so we'll get into that. But the 257 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: last thing movie related. What was one of your most 258 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: memorable experiences making the movie? Well, you know, there are 259 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: many many, but the reason that I'm really in the 260 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: movie businesses is because I love to explore texts through acting. 261 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: And when you get a chance to work for me, 262 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: this was, you know, just a bucket list of actors 263 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: to work with. They're all my heroes. I think we 264 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: have four or five Academy Awards, who represented numerous Golden 265 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a total platinum cast. But there's 266 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,119 Speaker 1: a scene in front of the Vietnam War Memorial in particular, 267 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: where we're in hurt sort of has a Catharsis with 268 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: with the beastive stand and it is actingly gets no 269 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: better than this, and it's it's just gut wrenching to 270 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: watch and yet moving and powerful and to watch Bill 271 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: do that. We actually had some veterans on set who 272 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: we had to check those guys because they became so 273 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: personally wrapped up in what William was doing. We had 274 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: to make sure that we weren't triggering them, you know. 275 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: So so that was a pretty amazing day of work. Well, 276 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm just glad there are still filmmakers like yourself that 277 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: that take the technical stuff seriously, because you know, with 278 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: my background, and I was actually a search and rescue 279 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,479 Speaker 1: swimer before I was a seal, so I mean, I've 280 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: been lowered down in a forest penetrator, so I get it. 281 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: But it tough for me to watch many movies because, 282 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: especially in that kind of action genre, because there's no 283 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: attention to details. So I know, guys like myself and 284 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: others who appreciate the tension of detail will appreciate that 285 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: in the movie. For sure, we did make some mistakes. 286 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: See if you're listeners can find the shot where there's 287 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: a guy with stripes on his arms and epaulets on 288 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: his epaulets on the shoulders. That was a good one. 289 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: They screwed up a folded flag which really made me crazy. Yeah, 290 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: but I mean, you know, happens. It happens, right, But 291 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: but no, you know, I always feel that for me, 292 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: this movie is really a love letter to all veterans 293 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: and their families, but in particular um to the guys 294 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: who gets was really about, many of whom are still alive. 295 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: And I just they're my first primary audience and I 296 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: want to make sure that they don't walk away going well, 297 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: that guy was like, you know, a knucklehead. I wanted. 298 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: I I care about what they care about, so those 299 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: details were important to me. That's good And first person 300 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: to correctly email us in at radio at software dot com. 301 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: I'll give you a free crate if you get the 302 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 1: time stamp first for for the uniform. And I mean, 303 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm a huge Game of Thrones fan and I don't know, 304 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: I didn't even catch that. I guess there was a 305 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:29,719 Speaker 1: Starbucks coffee cup in one of the last last episodes. Yeah, 306 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: that stuff happened a long time. Yeah, as I can think. 307 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: It was like, Man, I'm into that show, but who 308 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: is that into it to kind of like watch with 309 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: that level of detail? It's pretty crazy. Charge Starbucks Yeah, yeah, yeah, 310 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: they got some good good press, probably some of the 311 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: only only good press they've gotten recently. So tell us 312 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: about the nonprofit. So I still on the board of 313 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: a nonprofit called Stable Warrior. For any of your listeners 314 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: out there, Um, this is a war deep sucks group. 315 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: We put together essentially a five and a half they 316 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: would treat it's veteran lead, and we put about twelve 317 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: guys through it at a time. We all also do 318 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: women's cow boards, but this is all to deal with 319 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: suicidal ideation and it's extremely effective. It's non traditional. I've 320 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: been through it myself. I'm not a veteran, I'm not 321 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: a military person, but as a witness, I went through 322 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: it and it really changed my life. And by the 323 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: end of the year, we'll have put close to a 324 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 1: thousand guys through it and we've only lost three. And 325 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: so when you look at at twenty one a day 326 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: or twenty two a day that we're losing we're doing 327 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: very very well. So it's anybody out there, if you 328 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: know somebody who's in trouble or you need for a 329 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: little guidance. Um, this is a great group. There's nothing 330 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: woo or you know, spooky about it. It's just getting 331 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: into the hard work, you know, taking that that war 332 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: story and telling it one last time because it doesn't 333 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: really sure of us anymore. And if you would like 334 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: to get involved with it, or just take a look 335 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: at the web page, it's stable warrior dot org. There's 336 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: video on it and so forth. And and veterans pay 337 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: nothing for this. It's a d percent paid for If 338 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: you want to come, we'll get you there and it's 339 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: five and a half days and it'll change your life. 340 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for letting me pitch that a little bit. 341 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: And and it's oddly Brandon, it's it's a linked to 342 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: the movie because the veterans in the movie are all 343 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: dealing with this ideation, with the guilt and the shame 344 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: and I mean that come with having that a warrior, 345 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: you know. I mean it's tough, man. I mean, I'm 346 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: in a pretty good spot now, but recently I just 347 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: had an interaction with the v A and and imagine 348 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: like there I go into re do my my disability 349 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: classification and they just they don't even reach out to 350 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: ask me like what day and time were for a 351 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: medical appointment. They schedule me four appointments and this is 352 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: I'm on the third generation of this. They just schedule 353 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: it whenever they want for this time, and if you miss, 354 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: they just deny your deny your application. And it's just crazy. 355 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: Like I had four appointments scheduled and one day, one 356 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: of them clear across the town, you know, out east 357 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: of JFK one in Brooklyn. I mean, it's just it's maddening, 358 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: and I mean I can deal with it, but I 359 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: just as I can think about when that's the kind 360 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: of thing happens with the VA and they're just like 361 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: they think like people don't have a life, Like I 362 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: don't have a job Monday through Friday, and alls I 363 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: can think about is the guys that are really men 364 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: and women who really need help and are suffering are 365 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: just put into that meat grinder v A bureau bureaucratic 366 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: system and they're just you know, it's unfortunately the v A. 367 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: There's a ton of great people at the v A. 368 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: Problem is they're just they're in this bureaucratic environment that 369 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: just does not do much good for the for the 370 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: really needful people. And so I'm just grateful that there's 371 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, people like you out there who are helping nonprofits. 372 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: And I mean it's the one great thing about America's 373 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: we can kind of just get it done ourselves sometimes. 374 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: Um So, so I appreciate that. Thank you. The v 375 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: A is I think it's I think the budgets, it's 376 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: trillion dollars. It's an aircraft carrier, you know, trying to 377 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: turn around in a bathtub, and they just it's just 378 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: very difficult to be to work small when you're so big. 379 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: And you know, we're touring this movie all over the country, 380 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: the military basis everywhere. That's why I'm here in Columbus today. 381 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: We're actually I'm I'm screening at tonight for Stable Warrior 382 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: and we're having an alumni weekend. But I'm going to 383 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: military basis all over the country, and I hear the 384 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: frustration about the v A over and over and over again. 385 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: And it's not only by the veterans themselves. It's about 386 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: their from their wives and their kids who also have 387 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: to lion the d a. So you know, we're pulling 388 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: for the vo but in the meantime we're trying to 389 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,719 Speaker 1: create interventions of our own that are more direct immediate. 390 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: So yeah, if there's anybody out there favored Sable Warrior 391 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: dot org and we will take it care of you. 392 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: That's great. And we'll put the link both to the 393 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: movie trailer and sav a Warrior dot Org in the 394 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: show notes. So if anybody wants to find out more 395 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: about the movie, because are all of our websites and 396 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: everything aren't quite do't yet, you can go to the 397 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: Last Full Measure road Show on Facebook. You can go 398 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: to Todd Robinson at Instagram. Well, you can also go 399 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: to my web page, which is Todd Robinson's film dot 400 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: com and tell everything's really up and running. You can 401 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: get the latest information there. Awesome. Yeah, we'll make sure 402 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: we post all that in the show notes and we'll 403 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: put it on our on our social pages as well. 404 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: All right, brother, fly safe. I'm sorry I won't see 405 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: you at bones Fest this year, but I will be 406 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: there in the spring, and I'm sad I'm gonna miss 407 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: you and the guys, but in safe, safe flight back 408 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: and look forward to see in the movie on the 409 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: October and we'll be be sure to uh blasted out 410 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: all over our sites. Fantastic, thank you, my plan. I 411 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: appreciate it, alright, Todd, I have a good one brother, alright. 412 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: So yeah, I hope you guys enjoyed that. Todd's a 413 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: great guy. His call signs actually Sandy. Sometimes. One of 414 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: these days I'll tell you guys that story. That's savor 415 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: word dot org. What a what a great thing. Um. 416 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: You know, if I was president for a day, I 417 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: probably would scrap to be a I just make it 418 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: process claims an award like benefits. But that place to 419 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: just get scrapped and put into h private healthcare. The 420 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: vets to just go into the private healthcare system. But 421 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: that's a that's a conversation for another day. The one 422 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: thing I wanted to cover real quick before we sign off. Look, 423 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: last last show was short, Um kind of let you 424 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: guys know about the Jack's departure. A lot of you 425 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: guys have written in either to the the show email 426 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: or hit me up on on my social pages, you know, 427 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: just kind of talking about Jack. And you know, I 428 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: know he's posted if you post this personal social and 429 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: not necessarily the most positive stuff, which is unfortunate. You know, Jack, 430 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: Jack's an amazing writer. You know, I'd like to think, 431 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, we've done done right by Jack over the years. 432 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: You know, I remember, you know, him and I first 433 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: started writing for software dot com back in the day. 434 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: You know, when he graduated Columbia, we were able to 435 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: to kind of give him a job that was a 436 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: work from home job where he was making just under 437 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand a year on his own schedule, kind 438 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: of doing his own thing. And it's just unfortunate, you know, 439 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: he's closing what was an open door. Always. I would 440 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: have always welcomed him back. It's unfortunate guys do that, 441 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: and they they kind of shut the or And I think, really, 442 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: you know, I've always tried to be a pretty positive person, 443 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: and I just take you know, exercise the golden rule 444 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: and always take the high road. I just think that's 445 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: the best thing to do. You know. I think you 446 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: can really judge a person on how they behave in 447 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: both the good times and the bad. So, you know, 448 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: those of you that kind of wrote in wondering what's 449 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: going on, I mean, that's that's that's all I really 450 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: got to say about that. And I do wish Jack 451 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: the best, and it's just unfortunate. Like I said, we 452 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: we had a couple of good years together, supported his book. 453 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: We actually the company bought copies of his book to 454 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: put in the Craig Club as well, So just in 455 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: addition all that advertising supports just unfortunate. But it is 456 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: what it is. I wish Jack the best. And you know, 457 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: as we can say, is the guys and I at 458 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: the site will continue to push on. We've got some 459 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: great writers on all different websites, and like I said 460 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: last show, we're in the process of kind of consolidating 461 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: all of our content into one supersite um and I 462 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: do have to give Nick cough and credit. He brought 463 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: this up in January. He's like, why don't we just 464 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: bring it all under one house, And it just kind 465 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: of took a took a while for me to wrap 466 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: my head around it, and then eventually after a few meetings, 467 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: we just decided this was the best best thing for 468 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 1: the for the company is just to bring it all 469 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: under one site. So we'll we'll share that with you 470 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 1: guys when we get it finished. We look, we think 471 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: we'll be done with the build out by in the 472 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: September early October. Like I said, I think the features 473 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: some of the old things that we used to have 474 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: back in the day for those of you guys remember 475 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 1: the kind of soft Reap mafia and stuff like that. 476 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: I think you guys will be really surprised and happy 477 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: with with some of the changes we're about to make 478 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: and appreciate all the support. So again, you can follow 479 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: me on Instagram where I'm most active, just at Brandon 480 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: t Web. You can write in soft rep Radio at 481 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 1: soft rep dot com and happy to answer any questions 482 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: over d M, at my Instagram or through the email. 483 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: I'm headed on a family vacation for a couple of 484 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: weeks and we'll probably may do the show remote. Probably 485 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: Nick and the guys are gonna be subbing in for 486 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: most of August, so but I'll be back. I look 487 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: forward to more great episodes software radio. So thanks for 488 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: the support and we'll see you guys seeing out here. 489 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: You've been listening to self rep Radio. New episodes up 490 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: every Wednesday and Friday. 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