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Speaker 1: What is up? Welcome to another edition of the NFL

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Podcast. It's Me Your Man, NAMG Marcus Grant

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Speaker 1: socially distancing and masking when it necessary. Hope all is

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Speaker 1: going well where you are. We are continuing our Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Camp series. We had a great chat earlier in the

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Speaker 1: and Michael Floria. We will keep marching on along again.

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Speaker 1: The whole point of this one is obviously the sort

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Speaker 1: of preview by division a lot of what we think

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Speaker 1: might happen in this fantasy season. Part of it though,

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Speaker 1: is to either hopefully reintroduce you to some voices that

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Speaker 1: you might be familiar with, either because you are part

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Speaker 1: of Fantasy Twitter or you listen to this podcast, or

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Speaker 1: maybe introduce you to some new ones as well. So

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Speaker 1: we'll do that in just a little bit as we

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Speaker 1: continue our march with the a f C North. But

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Speaker 1: before we do that, I want to talk to our

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Speaker 1: faithful producer, Senior ed Word Alt Murphy. Esquire Murphy. Hear

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Speaker 1: you're you're bailing on me for a week soon. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We we tooked the week off last week from Fantasy

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Speaker 1: but this upcoming week I'm gonna take a little bit

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Speaker 1: of vacation. I call it a vacation but because I'm

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Speaker 1: not working. But I'm really just going back home to

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Speaker 1: New York City because not like I could fly to

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Speaker 1: a tropical island right now and enjoy it during these times.

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Speaker 1: So it's just going back to the parents house and

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Speaker 1: New York City. You know, it's it's looking at a

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Speaker 1: So I don't go there crazy. It helps. Whatever helps, man.

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Speaker 1: So we will miss you next week. I think we

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Speaker 1: will have Ricky Hollywood sitting in one day next week,

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Speaker 1: which should be fun. Yeah, you have you have Erica,

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Speaker 1: and I think our j is gonna help out to

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Speaker 1: it's a two way better producers than me doing the show.

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Speaker 1: I think that. But no. But but enjoy your time

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Speaker 1: or so after. Thank you appreciate it. I'll miss you guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So now let's get to our guests. Though I had

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Speaker 1: the privilege of meeting these two ladies almost a year

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Speaker 1: ago now at the fabled Buffalo Wild Wings in Canton, Ohio,

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Speaker 1: when I was out there for the King's Classic Draft.

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Speaker 1: It has become, I say, a tradition. I mean, we've

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Speaker 1: that makes it a tradition. We do the draft and

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Speaker 1: then we all descend upon a be dubs and closed

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Speaker 1: actually I believe stole my beer, but what's kind of

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Speaker 1: up to replace it with another one, So uh, kudos

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Speaker 1: to them for that. But excited and well and and

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Speaker 1: happy to welcome Kate and Michelle Maduk, who do their

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Speaker 1: own podcast at ball Blast. They have a great website,

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Speaker 1: they have a whole lot of writers. They're doing really

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Speaker 1: big things over there. You should follow them on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Kate at ff ball Blast, Michelle at ball Blast. M

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Speaker 1: that's e M there, ladies. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: coming on the show. How are you hi? Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for having us. We're so excited. Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah and and shout out like I feel like that

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Speaker 1: intro story for us is like just the story of

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Speaker 1: our lives. Like I think one of those girls stole

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Speaker 1: it's been so long now, Yeah, you know, I know

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Speaker 1: it's I know it hasn't been a full calendar year,

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Speaker 1: won't be doing it this year unfortunately. Yeah, the King's

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Speaker 1: Classic Draft, which you know, shout out to Bob Lung

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Speaker 1: this thing. It's been great for a couple of years,

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Speaker 1: but unfortunately, because of the times, it's all virtual this year.

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Speaker 1: I'll start with you. What is the earliest that you

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Speaker 1: have drafted Lamar Jackson so far this season? I've drafted

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Speaker 1: And I think Lamar Jackson's just that cheat code where

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Speaker 1: mix up some of my leagues and bury my draft choices, Chris,

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Speaker 1: mean I know that j K. Dobbins. Look, we've all looked.

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Speaker 1: Is Baker after Baker Mayfield? So love him. He's one

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Speaker 1: I think Baker got humbled a little bit last year. Uh,

428
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Speaker 1: And you know, we'll see how he comes back this year. Um,

429
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 1: let's let's go to the other team in Ohio, the

430
00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, and look, I'll throw this out. They'll start

431
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,199
Speaker 1: with UK. But Michelle certainly would love your opinion on

432
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: this too, with you know, the coronavirus and and not

433
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,719
Speaker 1: having a true full off season. I mean, there's been

434
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 1: a lot of talk about what this means for rookies,

435
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,880
Speaker 1: what this means for guys and new places in terms

436
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: of being able to adjust to their new teammates and

437
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: playbooks and all that sort of thing. Obviously, the expectation

438
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,160
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati is that Joe Burrow is expected to come

439
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 1: in and be the starter in Week one. There's already

440
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: obviously a learning curve for rookie quarterbacks, there's no doubt

441
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 1: about it. But has this unconventional offseason changed anything you

442
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 1: project about Joe Burrow this year? I I will say

443
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 1: I am not touching Joe Burrow with a six ft

444
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 1: poll in in um. And you know what I actually did.

445
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 1: I did a bit of digging just the the interest

446
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,919
Speaker 1: of Joe Burrow because it is sort of assumed that

447
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 1: he will be the full time starter, that we don't

448
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 1: we don't have to wait for him to assume that role. Um.

449
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: There have been sixteen quarterbacks since ten who have started

450
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: fourteen or more games in their rookie season. When we

451
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: look at each of those sixteen seasons individually, the respective quarterbacks,

452
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 1: lead wide receiver top down on the team, and four

453
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: leaders lead receiver used past receiving yards UM. They average

454
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: eight hundred and forty three yards and three point nine touchdowns. No,

455
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 1: thank you. I do not want to touch any wide

456
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: receiver in that offense UM. And you know I think that,

457
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 1: you know, if anything, my research has just shown me that,

458
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: especially in this kind of situation, especially with an altered

459
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: off season, I'm going to expect them to lean on

460
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 1: the run game, and people expect Joe Burrow to come

461
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: in and just automatically be better than Andy Dalton, who

462
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: was not a great He was he was fine, he

463
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: was average. He just wasn't good enough to bring them

464
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: far into the playoffs, that's all. But to expect Joe

465
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: Burrow had one fantastic college seas and I'm not going

466
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 1: to take that away from him. But to come into

467
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 1: the NFL with a limited offseason and all of a

468
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: sudden make everyone better on that offense just because there's

469
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: a rookie, that seems pretty crazy to me. I mean, yes,

470
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: but you know, we like to shoot for the moon here.

471
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Speaker 1: I will say that I have not I don't think

472
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Speaker 1: I have Joe Burrow. I do think I've drafted him anywhere. Um,

473
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: I just haven't been bold enough to do it. I

474
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: want to see what he's going to do first before

475
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: I take that swing at him. Um. But you know,

476
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 1: as you mentioned Kate, the wide receivers generally have not

477
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: fared well when it comes to rookie quarterbacks. You said

478
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: you're not touching any of them. Uh So, I guess

479
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 1: that means you don't have expectations for A J. Green

480
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd. I mean, Michelle, you feel the same way.

481
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: Any any any hope that either Green or Boyd can

482
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: have any fantasy relevance this year. I think if I'm

483
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,239
Speaker 1: going to take one, I would look at boy just

484
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: because he's been the wide receiver one on that team

485
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 1: now for about a year and a half at least.

486
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: A J. Green, I mean, he hasn't really been excellent

487
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 1: since to only fifteen when you put up that twelve

488
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: yards and ton touchdown season. I know in twenty twelve

489
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: he got over that thousand yard mark and had eight touchdowns.

490
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: But that's like pretty much your ceiling now. A J.

491
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: Green is about to turn thirty two. He's working with

492
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback he's barely been healthy, missing thirteen games

493
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: over the last three seasons. Like all of that together,

494
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 1: why are you risking him as a pick when his

495
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: ceiling is a thousand yards and eight touchdowns And it's

496
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: not even really that with a rookie quarterback, So it's

497
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: not worth it to me. Um, Tyler board Boyd is

498
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: kind of just one of those guys. Isn't exciting, but

499
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: he's fine. You can take guns. He'll be a wide

500
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: receiver to slash three on a week to week basis

501
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: and be fine. He's not going to hurt you. It

502
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 1: just has a I think he has a relatively higher floor.

503
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 1: I like, I feel comfortable with Tyler Boyd. But so

504
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: when I'm especially in a re draft league, when I'm

505
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: looking at these wide receivers, I want to shoot for

506
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: the moon, like you just said, I want that upside,

507
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: and I don't think Tyler boy produces that upside that

508
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: I can. I can just dive right in, especially with

509
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback, because Boyd's going around like the gallops

510
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: and the charts and the metcalfs, Like, give me those guys.

511
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: They don't have the same floor that boy does, but

512
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: they can win you a week, and that's kind of

513
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: what I'm looking for more than just Boyd. So I

514
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna put together, maybe put together list of

515
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: the what I would call the all oatmeal team guys

516
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: that it's fine. You know, you're not excited about it,

517
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: but it's fine. I'll get you through. You know, it's

518
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: sustained you. I guess Tyler Boyd might be one of

519
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: the top receivers on that captain. Actually, um, you mentioned

520
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: the running backs and guys with upside. I mean Joe

521
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: Mixon is a guy that I think everybody is looking

522
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: at as having potentially a big year. He has. He

523
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: has dropped the dreaded H word hold out. Does that

524
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: scare either of you? With him potentially holding out there?

525
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't scare me. But I was off of him already,

526
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: so I guess that's just another layer of it. I

527
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: don't understand his eight p whatsoever he's going as a

528
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: running back six. I don't even think he has that

529
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: ceiling with the targets that he receives. I did a

530
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: whole article over on bab lest Football if you want

531
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: to go check it out, but about running backs that

532
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: have that ability to be a top five running back.

533
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: So I went all the way back to few thousand

534
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 1: eight to see which running backs landed in the top

535
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: five each of those seasons in PPR leagues, and there

536
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: have been thirty three different running backs to land in

537
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: the top five since twels Neat Well, there's sixty spots

538
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: and only thirty three running back, So that means most

539
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: of the top five running backs repeat again at some

540
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: point in the career. But twenty six of those thirty

541
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: three running backs were top five in the very first

542
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: year that they received a full workload, and then another

543
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 1: three did it in their second season, another three did

544
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: it after they changed teams and got the full workload.

545
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: Zero running backs seated four seasons they needed until their

546
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: fourth season uh to become a top five running back

547
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: when they've already received that full workload before. So there's

548
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: no reason to think that Joe Mixon has that ceiling.

549
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: He's already showing us what he is. He's a friends

550
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: running back one and on his that's on his best day.

551
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: And that's not to say he's not a like one

552
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: of the best running backs in the NFL. It's just

553
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: in terms of fantasy production. Like fantasy production is much

554
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: different than what you do for your actual team, Like

555
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: what do you do in critical situations? Joe Mixon, he's

556
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: a better NFL talent than he is fantasy running. Yeah,

557
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: and I would agree with that. I'm actually in, you know,

558
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: more so on Joe Mixon than than Michelle is. But um,

559
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: and that comes down to sort of the analysis I

560
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: did with you know, what we see offenses with rookie

561
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: quarterbacks looking like, you know, if the offense runs through

562
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon. I see that as a positive thing. And

563
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: they do think they've made um, not a ton of

564
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: strides with the offense, but just just enough to make

565
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: me feel a little bit more comfortable. Um, but I

566
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: still think that, you know, in terms of where you

567
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,719
Speaker 1: fire him in drafts, I'm not comfortable expecting him to

568
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: perform above that. So your analysis, sorry, your your analysis

569
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: is off of rookie running backs, and it's off of

570
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: running backs playing with rookie quarterbacks, and they seem more

571
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: volume because teams don't trust the rookie quarterbacks to throw

572
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: a ton. But the thing is, Joe Mixon already has

573
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: so much volune. He already had three hundred touches last year.

574
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: He was a running back nineteen in fantasy points per game.

575
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: I know he ended as a running back thirteen. It's

576
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: only because he was one of the few running backs

577
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: to play a full sixteen games, and he had a

578
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: wild week seventeen, which helps nobody. But but even counting

579
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: weeks seventeen, he was a running back nineteen fantasy points

580
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: per game and he had over three hundred touches. That

581
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: is wildly bad. There was only eight running backs last

582
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: year to have two d fifty carries, and he was

583
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: eight out of eight in fantasy points per game. And

584
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: like buy a good chunk, Chris Carson at fifteen point

585
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: five that was the seventh running back and Joe Mixon

586
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: was done at four team point one. You can go

587
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: all that way back to to look at guys the

588
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: two carries, and only Adrian Peterson and Frank Gore scored

589
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: fewer fantasy points per game than Joe Mixon last year.

590
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: I don't think that Joe Burrows just to answer to

591
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: all Joe mixons, I won't play Devil's advocate here though,

592
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,719
Speaker 1: and tell you that Joe Mixon had sort of a

593
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: tale of two halves. Right. The first half of the

594
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: season was flat out awful. Like there's just no way

595
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: around that. The second half of the season. He came

596
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: alive and and was really really productive in the second

597
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: half of the season. And maybe we are putting too

598
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: much weight on that second half of the season. Maybe

599
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: that's sort of how we ended up here. Um, but

600
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: I feel like we like to be an optimistic lot

601
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: right for the most part. And uh and maybe that

602
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: maybe that maybe there's somewhere maybe it balances out. So

603
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: maybe as you as you mentioned, maybe his ceiling isn't

604
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: running back six. Maybe it is still though a top

605
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: ten guy, which look, man, we're looking for we're looking

606
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: for work corse running backs. He seems to fit the bill.

607
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: And you know, so maybe we we shoot for the

608
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: moon and we reached the stars. I don't know. I

609
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: guess that's that's that's the best way can I can

610
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: sort of value away I expected to roll out is

611
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna shoot with the moon for Joe Mixon. We're

612
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: gonna land on the moon. We're gonna be fine with it,

613
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: Like all right, we're gonna be happy, Like you're gonna

614
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: be happy to land on the moon, but you're going

615
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: to to get to the sun and beyond taking I

616
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: think if you're taking a running back at the running

617
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: back six, you expect there to be at least potential

618
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: that you're gonna be a top three running back. I

619
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: don't even see that in the cards for Joe Mix

620
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: and not even close. So I would rather take a

621
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: shot on a guy like Kenyan Drake where he has

622
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: that potential in a new offense, than a Joe Mixon

623
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: where you know exactly what he'll be. If you want

624
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: a safe guy, go with Joe Mixon, He'll be running

625
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,479
Speaker 1: back thirteen. Sure. Yeah, you guys have basically just like

626
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: made the Bengals out to be team oatmeal, Like that's

627
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: really what you have. All three of them are team captains.

628
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: Go all right onto the Steelers. Uh? And so, Michelle,

629
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: I mean I have to start this with you. Um,

630
00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to write or where I wrote,

631
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: I think he wrote on NFL dot Com. But I

632
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: said that when it comes to the Steelers, there hasn't

633
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: been this much hanging on a right arm since Henry

634
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,719
Speaker 1: Rolling Gardner took them out against the Mets in the

635
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: movie Rookie of the Year. Um, what level of confidence

636
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: do you have in Big Bins recovery? His health and

637
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: doesn't impact what you think about when you draft Steelers.

638
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: And I'm asking you to to answer this question not

639
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: with your hearts, but with your head as much as possible.

640
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: You know, I can only answer with the information we've

641
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: been given, Like I don't have any additional information either,

642
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: even though we live close to the facility. But I mean,

643
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: all the information coming out is saying that we see

644
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: been throwing, he looks healthy, he has no pain in

645
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: his right arm, and they say he will be a

646
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: hundred percent good to go by week one. Now, people

647
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: lie all the time, so I guess we don't really know.

648
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: But basically there's been no negative information to come out

649
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: at all against Ben. So he tased his beards, he

650
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: shaved his beard because he could throw again, and so

651
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: there's no reason to believe he's not fully healthy. I

652
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: know in the past there's been quarterbacks who have had

653
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: this injury and uh come back well, but like that

654
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: was a very long time ago. In the past, running

655
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: backs used to tear their a c L and be done. Like,

656
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: medicine has changed so much that I'm not as worried

657
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: just because of history tells us that it was bad

658
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: and the nineties well, and we were actually discussing the

659
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: same topic with our injury expert over and Bob last Um,

660
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: Matthew Bets. He's awesome. He's a sports physical therapist. UM.

661
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: As he explained it to us, you know, he didn't

662
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: have you know, Ben didn't have the traditional Tommy John surgery,

663
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: which um, you know is sort of the red flag

664
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: moving forward. He had some sort of altered procedure, and

665
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem that there's a lot of scientific data

666
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: on um, you know, sports players quarterbacks returning from injury

667
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: with that specific corrective surgery. UM. So I really like,

668
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're going to see in from Ben.

669
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're going wanting to see from

670
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 1: the offense, but I do know that the risk that

671
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: we're looking at in terms of you know, where they're

672
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: going and where they're being drafted. UM, I feel like

673
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: the risk is baked in pretty well and all of

674
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: the players pretty much. Yeah, Like even Ben, he was

675
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: the top three quarterback the last time he he played

676
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: a full season in and he's what the running a

677
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: quarterback sixteen seventeen. He's way down the list down there,

678
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: And you know, so I think when you look at

679
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: the upside and the risk. I think they're actually priced

680
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: pretty well in terms of their ADP. Okay, So then

681
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: my next question is what level of confidence do you

682
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: have in James Conner's health that has sort of been

683
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: the big optical to him really being truly a breakout

684
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: running back. Do we have a level of confidence and

685
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: and is is that injury risk baked into his ADP

686
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: right now? I think it's definitely biged in. I mean,

687
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: he's going in the fourth round. Uh, and he has

688
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: top We've already seen it, top six potential. He was

689
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: already a top six running back when he played thirteen games,

690
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: so he gets so many targets that you can you

691
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: can trust that baseline. Last year when he was healthy,

692
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: he was scoring over fourteen points a game more than

693
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 1: that and games he actually played more than eighteen percent

694
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: of games. But we'll get into that later, I'm sure.

695
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: But James Conner, I mean, he's one of those guys

696
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: that always gets injured, so it's really hard to trust

697
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: that he's going to ever play a full season. It

698
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: seems like he's really working on his body this offseason,

699
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: but that's what every player is. The photo is a

700
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 1: photo he's been working out this year, but it's another

701
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: year away from cancer, from that chemotherapy, maybe his body

702
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: can be a little bit stronger. I think you only

703
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: need him to play like thirteen games to get a

704
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: great season out of him in terms of where he

705
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: had to drop him all right. Um, so when you

706
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: look at the wide receivers, right, obviously everybody's wondering what

707
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: happens with Juju if he bounces back this year. Uh.

708
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: Deonte Johnson, for you know, for two weeks was like

709
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: the new hotness on fantasy Twitter. Uh does I mean

710
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: James Washington is no longer a thing? Is he just?

711
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: You know? Is he in the shame corner now? For us?

712
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: I really like him. I feel like he's never made

713
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: his way out of the shame corner. I feel like

714
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: Washington has just been this critically undervalued player for so

715
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: so long. And um, I actually I feel like I'm

716
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: not as high on Jim's Washington as Michelle is. But

717
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: also when you look at um, you know, I think

718
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: I probably noticed this more as just a Steelers fan

719
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: in general, because we do watch the game so closely. Um,

720
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: I think when you're looking at that second year leap

721
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: It's very clear that James Washington made it um. You know,

722
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: when he he made a lot of stupid mistakes in

723
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: his rookie season. He didn't have great just he didn't

724
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: have great hands. He just he looked like a rookie.

725
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: And I think when we look at some of the

726
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 1: plays he made in twenty nineteen, they were big places.

727
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: So like, he didn't finish as you know, a top

728
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: ten worlde receiver in yorgage, but man, when he made plays,

729
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: they were huge and they were impactful for the football team. Yeah,

730
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: you didn't say he didn't finish top ten in the NFL,

731
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: but he didn't finish as wide receiver on the Steelers

732
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: and receiving yards. He was the lead wide receiver on

733
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: that team. I feel like everyone else gets the excuse

734
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: for the future quarterback play except for James Washington. It's

735
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: so Jiuju was bad because of the quarterback. Deante Johnson

736
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: was so good in the Turkey season even with the

737
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: quarterback play, and James Conner will be better with Ben,

738
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: but no one wants to give that same excuse to Washington,

739
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: even though he was the lead receiver. I think I

740
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: think they think because unfortunately for James Washington. He sort

741
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: of had the opposite narrative of like, he's supposed to

742
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: be good because him and Mason Rudolph were like their pals,

743
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: their pals from way back in college. Like, so like

744
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: I think because you know, and look, I know that

745
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: that expectation is always unfair. I mean we got the

746
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: same thing with Kobe Fleaner and Andrew luck Hey they

747
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: were roommates at Stanford. It should be great. Um, I

748
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: think that's a sort of an unfair expectation to put

749
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: on a guy. But because of that, I think that

750
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: stigma with James Washington is because he just didn't have

751
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: Banana's numbers. It was like, well, what's wrong, Like this

752
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: is your bff. Shouldn't you guys like this be together?

753
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: And I don't think that's only fair either, because he

754
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: did a ton of work with Duck Codges too, So

755
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean Duck Hodges and Maasing Rudolph for in and

756
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: out and a lot of his big plays with with Duck.

757
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: So I think Washington just really took a step forward.

758
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,959
Speaker 1: I was so annoyed with the Steelers in eighteen because

759
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: we drafted James Washington to be a deep threat or

760
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: else we should have anyways, right, That's what he did

761
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: in college so well, and then all of a sudden,

762
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: we're trying to use them short NonStop. I think that

763
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: had to do with having a B and do do.

764
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: It's hard to fight for targets in then offense when

765
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: you have two great wide receivers as a rookie, and

766
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: then the next year they did use them as that

767
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: deep threat. They use them completely different, and that's where

768
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: he succeeds. And I think Big Ben loves his deep threats.

769
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: So you know, Washington doesn't need a hundred targets to

770
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: succeed in Fantasy. Next year he needs like ninety and

771
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: he's going to be a really good flex player, all right. Um. Yeah,

772
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: I just felt like I felt like he has sort

773
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: of faded away in our consciousness because everybody's like on

774
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: Juju or Deonte Johnson and James Washington is sort of

775
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: just kind of thing. I'm trying to bring him back.

776
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm trying, don't try to bring him back. I think

777
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: I drafted him and like the I want to say,

778
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: the twenty one round of Scott Fish bulky Um is

779
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: just garbage value. And I was shaming myself for not

780
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: having drafted him sooner. That's I mean, that's essentially a

781
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: free agent at that point. Really, it's a free agent pickup. Really. Um,

782
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: all right, So I want to go through some kind

783
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: of superlatives, some best and worst of the a f

784
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: C North as you guys see them from a fantasy perspective.

785
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 1: Let's start, who do you expect will be the top

786
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: scoring fantasy running back out of this division. I'm gonna

787
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: go with it. I mean, you you just heard me

788
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: talk down on Joe Mixing. It's not going to be

789
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: Joe mix and mark Ingraham's going to get us to

790
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: under carries. He's going to be efficient, but I don't

791
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 1: think he's going to be the top score either. Chob

792
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: has to fight with Hunt. I'm going with James conn

793
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: and I don't hair if it's a Homer pick. I

794
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: actually believe he gets the most targets out of any

795
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: of these guys, like bar if he's healthy, he's going

796
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: to see seveny targets easy, and that could be a

797
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: lot higher. It's just what he does. Ben loves to

798
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: use the running backs. And maybe it's not even Ben

799
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: because they did that last year with Duck and Mason.

800
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: But he was running back six and thirteen games already

801
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: brought that up in twenty nineteen. Last year, he was

802
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: still better than Mixing in points per game four teen

803
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: points six fantasy points per game, and that includes ten games,

804
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: and in those ten games, he really only played eight

805
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: because two of those games he played eighteen percent and

806
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: thirteen percent. So if you only look at the a

807
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,959
Speaker 1: games that he actually played, he was averaging seventeen point

808
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: five points per game. That's higher than both Chubb and

809
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: way way way higher than Mixing. So I know it

810
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: comes down to healthy Connor. But if he stays healthy,

811
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 1: it's a big if he will be the top scorer

812
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: in the NFC North. If Connor does not stay healthy,

813
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: it is Nick Chubb. Okay, yes, definitely a cool um.

814
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: So we're talked a little bit about some of the

815
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: receivers in the division, and I think they all sort

816
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: of come with their own caveats. Is there one or

817
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: which one? Which receiver in this division do you trust

818
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: the most fantasy wise this year? Can we cheat? Sure?

819
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: Can we go with the title? I don't know if

820
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: there's actually a wide receiver we super trust in this division. Yeah,

821
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: that's why I asked collectively heard, but we both love

822
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews and he's pretty much the wide receiver one

823
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: for Baltimore. He has, he is the number one receiving option. Yeah,

824
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: I I absolutely think that will continue. So, like when

825
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 1: you look at Mark Andrews in you know, his snapp percentage,

826
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: I feel like that's actually used against him a lot.

827
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 1: Um he didn't play a high percentage of offensive snaps

828
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: when uh we did see him be so productive, so

829
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: everybody said, you know, he's too efficient, But when you

830
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: actually look at his target rate on those snaps, he

831
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: was targeted whenever he was running routes um at one

832
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: of the highest rates in the NFL on all tight ends.

833
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: When he was running routes, he commanded the largest target.

834
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: Why was he always wide open? Like what were defenses doing?

835
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: I didn't have wide receivers always to Andrews wide open

836
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, so good cover him.

837
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 1: They were just staring at Lamar Jackson waiting for him

838
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: to take off his legs. But like Mark Andrews he

839
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: has said so it is a cheat code. But like

840
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews is a part of the cheat code offense. Um,

841
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: he is just I expect him to be healthier. He

842
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: was on the injury report like what the entire season

843
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, like like just always banged up, missing practices,

844
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: But he was on the field for snaps. When he

845
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: was on the field for snaps, he was getting the targets.

846
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: So I feel like, if he's actually healthy, um, I'm

847
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: going to take him. But if we have to do

848
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, obviously I would go with O B J.

849
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: Who would you go with the I feel safe with?

850
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: Can I pick nobody? I guess Tyler Boyd only likely

851
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 1: because I don't want to be at home or do

852
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: do um. But last year do you did kind of

853
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: scare me, even though he had a ton of injuries,

854
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: but he scared me that he couldn't get open as often.

855
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: So I'll go with Tyler Boyd. He's He's shown a

856
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 1: little bit more over the last that alright, cool. Who

857
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: are the biggest sleepers in the in the a f C.

858
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: North So I was thinking about this. There are a

859
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: ton of sleepers where you're comfortable with these offenses going

860
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: deep into their into their lineups. So I would maybe

861
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: go with like a Kurring Hunt. He's going pretty late

862
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: for a running back that should be heavily involved in

863
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,959
Speaker 1: this offense. Like I keep saying, like, I think Kevin

864
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: Stefanski should just run these two to the ground. Both

865
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: are great on the ground. And then Hunt is amazing

866
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: as a receiver. There's really not a wide receiver three

867
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: right now in Cleveland. I mean, Rashad Higgins is fine,

868
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: but he doesn't demand targets. I think Hunt can be

869
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: that three. And then if Landry is struggling to get

870
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: back with his hip and dry, Hunt could see so

871
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: many targets uh and to go off that. Maybe David

872
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 1: and joku I mean, I know Whoper was great in

873
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: in UH in Atlanta, but they kind of put him

874
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: in the perfect spots. We'll see if Cleveland could do

875
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: that same thing. I think David and Jokey is a

876
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: little bit more athletic, a little bit more talented as

877
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: an actual uh, you know, receiving tight end, so maybe

878
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: he can break out two good Stefanski, I'm actually going

879
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: with I don't know if you will technically consider him

880
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 1: a sleeper, but I'm going with mark Ingram I feel

881
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: like he's one of those undervalued assets in moving into um.

882
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: Everybody is is weirdly enough saying that j K. Dobbins

883
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: is not going to be fantasy relevant until but that

884
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: Mark and mark Ingram will be fantasy irrelevant. So like

885
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: we got to meet each other in between. We're looking

886
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: at a top tier running back in ten. Guess what

887
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: he turned uh? What was it? Thirty in December? So

888
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: technically he's the same age that he was last year

889
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: and he's just a couple of months older. Guys like,

890
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: don't be scared of the age. Age just is the number.

891
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: He was incredibly efficient um and the offense lends to efficiency.

892
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: So why are we so scared to buy mark Ingram?

893
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: He's going to be on probably all of my rosters

894
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: in just because he's not being drafted very highly at all.

895
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: One guy I do want to bring up as a

896
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: sleeper is Tea Higgins. If we're going to go with

897
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: a murky wide receiver that could totally break out, is

898
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: what like not the wide receiver one for his team

899
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: not in the NFL. I think it could be a

900
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: Tee Higgins with the rookie quarterback where they have each

901
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: other and you know they make that connection. Te Higgins

902
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: is uber talented. If A. J. Green sits out this

903
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: year because of the franchise tag or gets hurt like

904
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 1: he normally does. I think te Higgins is the guy

905
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: to look out for in the middle of the season.

906
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: H One thing you'll say about mark Ingram you thought

907
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: about being undervalued. It feels like that's the story of

908
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: his career. Um, you know, in in New Orleans, he

909
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: always seemed to kind of be an afterthought. I mean,

910
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember when the Saints gave Kobe

911
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: flein Er a goal line kerry instead of giving it

912
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: to mark Ingram Um. You know. Yeah, and then obviously

913
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara comes in and kind of pushes him to

914
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: second fiddle once again. So that's kind of been the

915
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: story of his career. And regardless, given opportunities to do,

916
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: just produces. So to be fair to Klobe Kobe Flinner,

917
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: he did share what a dorm room with Andrew last

918
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: I mean they were they were roommates, so they're going

919
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: to be amazing. It's all good. Um, who were the

920
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: most overdrafted guys? You think right now coming out of

921
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: the a f C North, here's your guy. I'm gonna

922
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: steal your guy, Joe Mixon. It's for reasons that we've

923
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: I mean, you've already talked him the death getting a chance.

924
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: Um So, Joe Mix said, He's just a guy that

925
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: I think I mentioned this earlier. So when I'm looking

926
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: at um, you know, even these top tier assets. So

927
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: like the goal for me when I'm drafting a guy

928
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: is to say, does this guy have a chance to

929
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: outperform as a DP because the more guys I have

930
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: that outperformed their adp s on my fantasy football team,

931
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: the better my roster is going to be. Like that,

932
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: I feel like is such an underrated concept in fantasy football.

933
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: Is just fine guys who are better than where they're

934
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: drafted so easy. And I think that that he is

935
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: one of those guys that's being drafted just at or

936
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: or the head of his a DMP. And I'm just

937
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: not I feel like we hurt Joe Mixens feelings enough

938
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: and the podcast. Sorry Joe, I'm going to go with

939
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: two of my Steelers. Um So, I'm not. So I'm

940
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: going to you know, bring down a little bit of

941
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: down the migeart Deante Johnson. I love him, I love

942
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: his talent. I have been going to call him ab

943
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: to point out, but I do feel like everyone is

944
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: on this Deante Johnson hype train. And I don't know

945
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: if there's enough targets to go around with how good

946
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: that defense is for Washington, for Juju, for Connor and

947
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: Johnson to all succeed happily. So I just want to

948
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: temper down the expectations on Deante Johnson. His average up

949
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: to target is very low, so he's going to need

950
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: a lot of targets to be great. And then Eric Ebron,

951
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: don't draft Steelers. That stop. You should have learned last year. Yeah,

952
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: I learned last year. I was saying this last year,

953
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: don't draft the Steelers, tin end, don't ever do it.

954
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: Air Ibron could get lucky with eight touchdowns, but that's

955
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: who knows. If that happens, he's not going to get

956
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: enough targets. Don't draft steel I'm old enough to remember

957
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: when Vance McDonald was going to be a top seven.

958
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: It was funny too. And you know you talk about

959
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: the Deonte Johnson, you say the hype train. I'd like

960
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: to coin a new phrase right now if I could,

961
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: and call it the hype go round. So you know,

962
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: remember those those little those little Carol sales is maybe

963
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: go around out the playground or like you know, as

964
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: one kid, you kind of spin it, you sit on it,

965
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: and it's kind of fun. And then all of a

966
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: sudden you get a whole lot more kids. They decide

967
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: to play, and they start spinning it really fast, to

968
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: the point that like you kind of get dizzy and

969
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: fall off, Like I think that might be sort of

970
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: what Deont Johnson like. It was cool when a few

971
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: people were like, hey, Johnson, the guys kind of good.

972
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: And then everybody started spinning the carousel. And now it's like, hey,

973
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: this is out of control, Like maybe we should slow down. Yeah, exactly.

974
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: Now we're all ready to throw up. Now we're all

975
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: dizzy and we're gonna puke, and it's just gonna be

976
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: um as we finish this thing up here, I got

977
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: a few either oars for you, and look, I'm just

978
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: gonna throw out either oars. You give me just a

979
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: name and maybe a couple of words. I don't need

980
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: like a long, long analysis, and we'll do these in

981
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: a vacuum. Whatever criteria you want to use to to

982
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: pick a person or a thing, you go with it.

983
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: So let's start. I'm tweaking this one here a little

984
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: bit from what I had to run down. Let's go

985
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: either or oh b J or Juju Smith Schuster. I'm

986
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: going to do just I prefer the Steelers offense, and

987
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: I trust Ben more than I trust Fager. Interestingly enough,

988
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: I trust the Browns offense more than I trust the

989
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: interesting all right, Um, this one becomes of a recent conversation.

990
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: I'm curious, now, Mark Andrews or Jarvis Landry. This is

991
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: easy for me, um in a PPR league excluding the

992
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: hip injury, and probably go Jarvis Landry just knowing that

993
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: he does have that hip injury, and I don't I

994
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: don't think any of us can predict what his rehab

995
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: is going to look like. I'm going to Mark Andrews.

996
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: We already love Mark Andrews, so it's not You're not

997
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: like twisting my arm or anything. But I'll go. I'm

998
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: going Mark Andrews easily. I know Jarvis Landry finished hie Again,

999
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: it's sixteen games. You gotta go by the points per game,

1000
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: and he was well into the twenties at that point.

1001
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: He's a He's a whatever wide receiver. To me, I

1002
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: want to take the game changer in the in the

1003
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: tight end of Mark Andrews. All right, I know you've

1004
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: been rewatching some of the Harry Potter movies. So I'm

1005
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: going to ask you Fred or George Weasley. We're going

1006
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: George or sorry Fred, No, We're going Fred? God no not.

1007
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 1: I don't mean if George is watching this, I don't

1008
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: know why George, but like, no offense. Um frends just

1009
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: like the funner guy, right, more fun He's just a

1010
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: livelier spirit. I feel like George is the guy that

1011
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: tries to like be like guys, let's let's be normal.

1012
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: I answer this because you could give you one million

1013
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: dollars to pick out the difference between the two, and

1014
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 1: I would have no idea. I do know, at least

1015
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: I've heard that Daniel Ratcliffe is a big fan of

1016
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 1: fantasy football, So you know who is like Harry Potter

1017
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: himself could be watching this and maybe an hit me

1018
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 1: up for lineup advice any time when I'm down there,

1019
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: you go my last one. You guys live in Pennsylvania,

1020
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: Iron City or young Ling? Yeah? Easy, iron City. It's

1021
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: so cute because you don't know how to say Gangland's Jingling, right.

1022
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: I know as soon as I said it, like I

1023
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: screwed that up. I knew it. As soon as I

1024
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: knew I screwed it up. It doesn't mean you're not

1025
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: from here, and that's completely fine. It's not good beer,

1026
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 1: so don't feel bad you don't it. But it's definitely

1027
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: city light. They have a light, Iron, they have a light. Okay,

1028
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: I see. I've had a Yngling and I was not impressed,

1029
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: but I have not had an Iron City, so I can't.

1030
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: It's called I see light. I see light. Yeah, city

1031
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: is fantastic, but like that doesn't sound good at all taste,

1032
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: but I got a hold of them. I'm pretty sure

1033
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: it's like the same exact stuff, a black and gold pan,

1034
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: which makes Pittsburgh people go crazy. But I actually so,

1035
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: I'm originally from Ohio and I'm very close to My

1036
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: hometown is very close to the Pennsylvania border. Um, and

1037
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: I heard England actually wasn't sold for the longest period

1038
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: of time in Ohio. So when I was in college,

1039
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: there would be people who would travel across the way

1040
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: across the border into Pennsylvania to go by Yangling because

1041
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: it was just this hot commodity. And then I grew

1042
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: up and I was like, oh, like we went all

1043
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: out for Yengland. When you first started drinking beer, you know,

1044
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: and you're you're like, oh, yeah, that seems good, and

1045
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: then you actually have like actual good beer and you're like, oh,

1046
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: I don't really. It was Yeah, it definitely made me

1047
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: question my life child college do it, which everybody needs

1048
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: to do. You know what sometimes that is that's that's

1049
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: part of the best education you get in college. Those

1050
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: are some of the some of the things that you

1051
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: learned that the outside of the classroom, they end up

1052
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: being useful to you. Um, ladies, I enjoyed this conversation.

1053
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: I had a whole lot of fun. I'm glad you

1054
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: could come on and chat with us on the pod.

1055
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: Uh for folks who maybe don't know you or are

1056
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: up with what you guys are doing. Let people know

1057
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: where they can find your stuff. Yeah, you can find

1058
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: me Kate on Twitter at ff ball blast. Um. We

1059
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: have just revamped our website bub blast football dot com.

1060
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: It's great. By the way, thank you. She did all

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Speaker 1: From my web development skills and a nurse by trade,

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Speaker 1: I do not do web stuff, but we've got a

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Speaker 1: We partnered up with the Red Shirts fantasy football team,

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Speaker 1: I write for. Ball Blast was a pretty cool company too.

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Speaker 1: But you can see I'm very scattered, but I just

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Speaker 1: but you know I said, we we met at that

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Speaker 1: it's been It's been fun to kind of follow you

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Speaker 1: how things have expanded and grown. I'm I'm excited for

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Speaker 1: you and uh again, just thanks for coming to chat

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Speaker 1: with us. I appreciate thank you. Yeah, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for having us. This is awesome. Yeah all right,

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Speaker 1: well that is it. We are done. We appreciate you

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Speaker 1: listening and downloading and even watching our clips as well.

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Speaker 1: You know the drill. Tell two friends to tell two

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Speaker 1: can't do it. Take care of yourselves and others, wear

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Speaker 1: a mask, and we will see you next week. Yeah

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