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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,

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Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most

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Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten

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Speaker 1: years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with

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Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the

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Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows, and revisit unforgettable

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Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about.

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Speaker 2: Hey, rain Drops.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode of Reality with the King, I am

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Speaker 1: back with Gibson John as we break down all things.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Gibson, I know that people love it when we

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Speaker 3: came up, Carlos, So I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 4: I really am.

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Speaker 2: Always I know how you've been. It's been a bit.

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Speaker 2: As I've seen you, I mean, I mean I.

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Speaker 1: Follow you on social so I've seen you are like

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Speaker 1: at every event, premiere, a wedding, a restaurant, like.

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Speaker 4: You're on Yeah, I stay outside, okay, Like.

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Speaker 3: There's just no other way, Like that's just the only

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Speaker 3: way I know how to live my life, you know,

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Speaker 3: just like.

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Speaker 4: Always be doing something.

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Speaker 3: It's you know, life too short, so I'm saying yes

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Speaker 3: to most things. But it's been it's been like too,

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Speaker 3: I've been too busy, Carlos like, it's it's I want

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Speaker 3: to I'm creating my routine.

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Speaker 4: So I'm back in New York and I'm just keeping

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Speaker 4: it a little chill right now. How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm outside, Okay, not doing what you're doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing other.

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Speaker 3: Things cryptic as ever. Okay, I'm overwhelmed with the detail.

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Speaker 4: I really am.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm just like, it's like, is everything you said.

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Speaker 2: I'm enjoying life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to figure things out on a personal level.

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Speaker 1: So you know, things are just like things are being

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Speaker 1: figured out, and I'm having fun figuring all things out.

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Speaker 4: And I love that for you. That's fabulous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen.

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Speaker 1: Not everyone's able to, like, you know, have a long relationship.

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Speaker 2: The way Tamar Judge does have a Bravo. But does

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Speaker 2: she love a transition.

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Speaker 4: I was about to say that was artful, that was yeah.

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Speaker 2: That WHOOPI Goldberg, watch your job. I'm coming for you.

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Speaker 1: I'm a moderator and I know how to segue to

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Speaker 1: a topic conversation.

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Speaker 2: So here we go.

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Speaker 1: In we have to get into all the Bravo talk

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Speaker 1: before we dive into the latest episode of the Real

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Speaker 1: Housewives of Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 2: So, Gibson, let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: So you and I are huge fans of hers, and

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Speaker 1: she's a friend of mine as well.

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Speaker 2: I love Tama Judge.

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Speaker 1: We defend her and her relevance and her position on

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Speaker 1: the OC. But as we have learned recently, Tama Judge

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Speaker 1: announced that she quit the Real Housewives of One County

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Speaker 1: in the middle of a cast trip in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: Tama Judge captioned Gibson and I quote, it was a

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Speaker 1: long run. When life gives you real problems. This reality

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Speaker 1: shit doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 2: Peace out.

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Speaker 4: I'm out with the literal peace sign emoji.

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Speaker 2: Literal pea side emoji.

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Speaker 1: So look, I have been producing reality television for like

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Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen years. I cannot tell you how many times

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Speaker 1: a housewife, especially or reality star has quit in the

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Speaker 1: middle of production, in the middle of a scene, and

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Speaker 1: they come back the next day, or they come back

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Speaker 1: two days later. In this case, Tama Judge announced it,

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Speaker 1: and then she kind of doubled down on it when

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Speaker 1: somebody asked her, girl, did you quit, and she wrote, yes. Gibson,

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Speaker 1: what is your take on all of this?

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Speaker 2: Matt Yeah, and.

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Speaker 3: Then she posts the selfie from the airport with mental

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Speaker 3: health is health, and like, listen, I feel two ways

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Speaker 3: which is her co host, her business partner, and her

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Speaker 3: and is fighting the battle of her life, and so like,

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Speaker 3: probably in a fragile place already, and I'm sure her

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Speaker 3: castmates are taking it to her this season, as you know,

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Speaker 3: she kind of deserves to have it taken to her

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Speaker 3: this season because of how she handled herself last season,

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Speaker 3: what she did Shannon, And so it's like it's this

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Speaker 3: thing of like she's getting a taste of her own medicine. Probably,

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Speaker 3: I mean, we don't know the details of what's happening

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Speaker 3: during filming, Like if she can't handle the heat, then

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Speaker 3: is like, I feel like Tamra can handle the heat.

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Speaker 3: I know she's going through a lot, but I'm like

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Speaker 3: it's this mixed thing where I'm sort of like I

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Speaker 3: want her to stick it out because I know she

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Speaker 4: Teddy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so as you want to know, Teddy Mellercamp, the

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Speaker 1: co hosts and her best friend of two Teas in

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Speaker 1: a Pod has been hospitalized with growing tumors in her body.

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Speaker 2: Had to have not even it does her body her brain.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they found new ones in her lungs recently.

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Speaker 4: It's like really bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, It's It's an awful situation that Teddy's going through too.

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Speaker 1: Teas in a Pod. The reason why this show is

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Speaker 1: so good is because of the chemistry between Teddy and Tamar,

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Speaker 1: because they're friends in real life, and to do a

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Speaker 1: of filming OC, I'm sure it's a lot for Tamra.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, my thoughts in prayers go out to Tamera.

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Speaker 1: She recently revealed Gibson on her podcast to Teas in

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Speaker 1: a Pod that she is going through a lot, and

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Speaker 1: she did bring up what's going on with her best

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Speaker 1: friend and fellow co host Teddy Mellencamp in addition to

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Speaker 1: some other stuff she's going through. She broke down and

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Speaker 1: cried as she was talking to Dolores from Jersey Housewives

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Speaker 1: and mentioned that, you know, she's going through a lot

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Speaker 1: of tough things, and you know she's a She's a

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Speaker 1: tough girl who can handle a lot, but with everything

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Speaker 1: going on in her life right now, she just needed

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Speaker 1: which that's why I love Teddy. Like Teddy is fighting,

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Speaker 1: even being in her position pouring into her friend. That's

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Speaker 1: why I love Tamra. That's why I love Teddy. I

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Speaker 1: love their friendship. That's why I always tell people. Look,

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Speaker 1: I know that on social media, you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: life they are good girls. So Tamra Judge, if you're listening,

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Speaker 1: you are my friend. I love you, and if you

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Speaker 1: need somebody to talk to, you know where to find me.

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Speaker 2: I love, love, love you. And Teddy Mellichamp. It goes

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Speaker 2: without saying you are my girl.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Teddy Bear or Teddy Graham, and I'm praying

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Speaker 1: for you, sister.

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Speaker 2: I love you, Gibson and my on a limb.

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Speaker 1: If I make this declaration, I know you love all

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Speaker 1: the girls like I do.

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Speaker 2: I do watch your interviews.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: I do feel like of all of this Salt Lake

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Speaker 1: City Housewives, Okay, I think Lisa Barlow's your favorite.

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Speaker 4: You wouldn't be wrong to say that, I would.

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Speaker 3: I would say, like, you know, I think that, like

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Speaker 3: I view that cast as like everybody is very essential

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Speaker 3: to that show. But ultimately, and I think we can

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Speaker 3: all say this, we're all drawn to certain people more

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Speaker 3: so than others. And like I have always been drawn

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Speaker 3: to the Mayored athlesa contingent on that show since the

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Speaker 3: first episode. And I don't know if it's because they

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Speaker 4: Kind of like that that that East Coast thing, and

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Speaker 4: that's where I grew up, that's where I lived.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, but Barlow, there is

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Speaker 3: something about her that I you can never make me

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Speaker 3: hate her basically.

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Speaker 1: So so say that I'd be listening. You have good taste,

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Speaker 1: my friend, You have good taste.

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Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with nineteen C. Wait, seventeen C.

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Speaker 4: Seventeen C.

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Speaker 2: H okay, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Seventeen C. Yes, I'm sorry, nineteen yees, seventeen C. The

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Speaker 1: nineteen is how many times Daniel Stop was.

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Speaker 3: Engaged, so exactly, Yeah, listen, there are a lot of

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Speaker 4: And sometimes are wanting to get across.

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Speaker 2: It's okay, thank you, so sorry to the icon that

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Speaker 2: is Daniel Stopped.

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Speaker 1: You've been engaged nineteen times. Lisa Barlow does not sit

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Speaker 1: in seventeen C. I to love me some, Lisa Barlow.

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Speaker 1: So there are rumors that has been trending on Twitter

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Speaker 1: for the past three days, and the rumor is Lisa Barlow.

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Speaker 1: It's not funny, but I'm gonna say this, this is

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Speaker 1: so fucking bad.

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Speaker 2: It's not funny, but it's the iconic.

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Speaker 5: Lisa Barlow has not turned to the show because allegedly

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Speaker 5: she wants a cumulative amount of a million dollars for

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Speaker 5: the season, and she's not.

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Speaker 1: Filming until she gets it. That's all alleged. That's a rumor.

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Speaker 1: Unlike Tamera, Lisa Brono did not tweet anything. She hasn't

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Speaker 1: posted anything. But the rumor is Lisa Barlow has not

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Speaker 1: been filming. The rumor is that the Salt Lake City

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Speaker 1: cast is currently on a cast trip and Lisa Barlow

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Speaker 1: is not there. GiB said, what are your sources telling

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Speaker 1: you about this particular rumor.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw a couple hours ago

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Speaker 4: on Twitter.

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Speaker 3: Things move fast, somebody with the Twitter handle or somebody

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Speaker 3: with a Twitter name of Predatory Headband. They said a

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Speaker 3: spotted Lisa and John filming, and there's a photo on

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Speaker 3: Instagram story. There's a photo of them with a camera next.

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Speaker 2: But is that a recent photo?

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Speaker 3: I mean, the implication is that this person's friend sent

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Speaker 3: them the photo so again, and then so then I

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Speaker 3: posted that. I was like, the world is healing, the

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Speaker 3: crisis is over, because that would have been a crisis off.

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Speaker 3: Lisa Barla wasn't on Salt Lake City. I will just

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Speaker 3: say that. And it was reposted by a fan account

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Speaker 3: and I put it on my story and somebody somebody

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Speaker 3: said it wasn't true that all the rumors. I said,

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Speaker 3: because I had said, like, you know, the rumors were

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Speaker 1: So that not true that she quit the show or

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Speaker 1: was it filming, or that not true that that picture

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Speaker 3: I think the rumors. The implication was the rumors were

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so obviously there's there's exception to the rule.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be very honest here. I am obsessed with

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Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with I'm obsessed with Lisa Barlow. Now do

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Speaker 2: Let's have a real conversation.

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Speaker 1: Can the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City survive without

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Speaker 2: Because if all of these rumors are true.

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Speaker 2: And I think in that case, my hope for Lisa Barlow.

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Speaker 1: If this is true, my sister, you and your jingles,

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Speaker 2: Don't overplay your hand, my sister. Yeah, don't don't do

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Speaker 1: And the show did survive without Mary coming back one season.

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Speaker 2: None of those girls to ever think they're bigger than

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree with you. I think the show

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Speaker 4: And I think that you're right that Salt Lake City

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Speaker 3: It's like it's a resilient franchise in so many ways,

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Speaker 3: I believe that's true. We're pretty much for anybody on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now listen, listen.

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Speaker 1: Lisa Barlow is essential to the show for sure. I

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Speaker 4: It's a dangerous game to thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh it is, it is, so I hope it's

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Speaker 2: So know, Lisa Barlow is a love her and this

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Speaker 4: Listen. I love the power Play, please, yeah and listen

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Speaker 1: Yeah she's still trending. It's been three days. Yeah she's

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Speaker 1: We are just getting started. This is reality with the

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Speaker 1: But what is not iconic? M gives in the allegedly

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Speaker 2: Tracy is. She had a hot trainer that she broke up.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't like de Rey. He found out she blocks him.

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Speaker 1: Tracy Tudor alleged that Derey does not pay her glam

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Speaker 1: subject please, I love the water, I love hot taste,

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Speaker 3: I love me saying to read that she is the

441
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 3: moment for me on this show. Like I love everything

442
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,479
Speaker 3: about her. But she's also kind of like a walking paradox, right,

443
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 3: Like we see her in all these designer things all

444
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 3: the time. It was in a beautiful house, has a

445
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 3: beautiful family, always in glam, always late because she's in glam.

446
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 3: But there have been talks about her finances since she

447
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 3: was on the show, right, Like that is not that

448
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 3: is a question that has been open ended forever with her,

449
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 3: And like, so this is I hope it's not true,

450
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 3: but I kind of believe it is based on Tracy's

451
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 3: acount of things. Tracy is rich, yes, and for road making.

452
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 3: You said, what of her own making? Like she's a

453
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 3: very successful real estate agent.

454
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah no, Listen, got a divorce on the show.

455
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: Her ex was so fucking fine, But that's a whole

456
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 2: nother story.

457
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 3: She has good tastes that she has good taste physically

458
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 3: and men, I would say, I don't know that.

459
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: Everything else Bye, right, Tracy, I'm sayingle hook me up, sister, Okay, Okay,

460
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: So Tracy is rich. Tracy obviously doesn't need a moment,

461
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: you know, like there's some thirsty girls who need the

462
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: moment because they need to be able to be a

463
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: part of the conversation for financial gain. And that's why

464
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: I have to outline that Tracy has a lot of money,

465
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: and I just don't buy Tracy needs the attention.

466
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: Listen, Dearit has been accused.

467
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 1: Of renting her fashions, She has been accused of not

468
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: paying things.

469
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 2: If this all is true.

470
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: What this means to me is that Tracy needs to

471
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: be on the next season of The Real House Spots

472
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: of Billy Hills.

473
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

474
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 4: Took the words out of my mouth. Ahead, words out

475
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 4: of my mouth.

476
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 3: I've been I've been talking about her should having she

477
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 3: should be counts on that show. I've been talking about

478
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 3: that for two years. Because one million dollar listing I

479
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 3: think is maybe like on pause on its way out

480
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: at least like because I think the All Means just

481
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: announced their exit, so it's kind of on. It had

482
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 3: very few cost numbers again, great show. So she's I

483
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 3: think she's like she has an opening in her life. Secondly,

484
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: she is very good friends with Crystal Coin mean golf,

485
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 3: and she has been for a very long time. And

486
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: you know, I think an argument can be made by

487
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 3: some I mean it's been made all season that people

488
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 3: want Crystal back at some point in the future. Imagine

489
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 3: injecting Crystal and Tracy together. That gives Crystal more of

490
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 3: like an inherent backup, which I think she kind of

491
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: didn't have before, you know what I mean, and a.

492
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 4: Deri versus Tracy situation.

493
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 3: Given this this heat of this heat of exchange is

494
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 3: very naturally occurring. I mean, game fucking on, you know

495
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 3: what I mean that that is a totally new dynamic

496
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 3: for us to unlock, because you know, this season I've

497
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 3: been enjoying, but it hasn't been the most exciting and

498
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 3: new in terms of different dynamics. And so it's like,

499
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 3: inject somebody like Tracy Tutor who doesn't give a fuck

500
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 3: about what they all say about her. She doesn't need

501
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: the money, and some of the best sauce lives don't

502
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 3: need don't need the money.

503
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 4: Come on, give it to me, Give it to me.

504
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: Asthma Donna said it best, I agree with you. Give

505
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: it to me. Give it to me now, injected in

506
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: my veins, injected in my free workout drinks, and and

507
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: and my fucking like postwork protein shake. I agree with you. Look,

508
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: Tracy has the lifestyle. And what we've learned on this

509
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: show is you don't have to live in Beillley Hills

510
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: because the only person who apparently lives in Billy Hills

511
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 1: from this current cast is Erica and Sidon. Right, I think, yeah, okay,

512
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: Derey can read the phone book when it comes to

513
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: checking these girls.

514
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 2: Tracy is no Kimo grammar.

515
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: Tracy will give it back to you, and Tracy has

516
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: the wallet to show for it. And on top of that,

517
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: Tracy is very likable. She's very likable. Yes, And I

518
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: think to your point to Gibson, the thing with Tracy

519
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: that was very smart for Bravo to cast the first

520
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: female to be a part of the million Dollar listing

521
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: is the fact that Tracy has big dick energy. Yes, right,

522
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: Like she can hang with the fellas and oh my god, right.

523
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 3: She's proven so many times on that show that she

524
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 3: can take it to the men on that show. And

525
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: like they're no slouches either, and so like she and

526
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 3: she called them on their shit all the time, like

527
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 3: she didn't. She was confrontational and not the way that

528
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 3: was unearned, like she really I think, I actually think

529
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 3: that like the one thing that would give her pause

530
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 3: about Real Housewives is the fact that it would get

531
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 3: like too much about like petty drama, you know what

532
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 3: I mean, Like a that show wasn't really petty. It

533
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: was more like about bigger things, right, And that's I

534
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: think what would give her pause about it, to be honest.

535
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 3: But now this hairstylist thing, I guess it's not petty

536
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 3: because she owes somebody money, but like she's down to

537
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: get in the weeds, which I love, Yes.

538
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: I do too, so gives them are advocating for Tracy

539
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: to be a housepopic season now we also love Mudonald listing.

540
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: This is no shade the Aptmans.

541
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if people disagree the Autmens is the face

542
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: of a million dollar listing. It is what the fuck

543
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: it is. Josh and Tracy were on Jeff Lewis show,

544
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: I think late last year, and we're pitching the idea

545
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: and the concept that they don't need Aptman.

546
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: They can do it on their own. I love Josh Flag,

547
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: I love Tracy.

548
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: I think it's a hard pass for me unless Frederick

549
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: comes back and replaces Autman. I Autman, Listen, this is

550
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: no shade Autment brought. When I say this, I'm not

551
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: shading anybody. But Autment brought he he brought credibility to that.

552
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: We're talking about a man who listed Kanye West and

553
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian's home, you know, like.

554
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's legit. I think he was sort of a

555
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: grounding force on that show. He was sort of like

556
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 3: the Ryan starhand of the West Coast. I would say,

557
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: like he was he you know, built himself up with

558
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: his brother and it was like.

559
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 4: You know, and he was good.

560
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: He was a good reality star too, Like he was

561
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 3: a good real estate agent and a good reality star.

562
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: But I think without him there, that show almost felt

563
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: like a leftover relic from the early days of Bravo.

564
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 3: And I don't mean that in a shady way, Like

565
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 3: I'm glad that it stuck around for as long as

566
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 3: it did. And I think they did a really good

567
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: job of Like I think it was World of Wonder.

568
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: They did a really good job of rettalizing the show

569
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 3: like like probably four seasons ago, but ultimately I think

570
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: it's sort of like, especially now, with like so many

571
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: real estate shows out there, it just doesn't stand out

572
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: as much.

573
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 4: And I love it, but I think it may be

574
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 4: as run ups.

575
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: Of course, I think so too.

576
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: And again, if you're not going to replace Atman with Frederick,

577
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: who's a fascinating character and also like extremely credible because

578
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: the thing that Autman brought to the show, and this

579
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: is no shade to Tracy and Black, who I love

580
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: equally aumand had like a list celebrities and like hundreds

581
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: and hundred million and weather a man, I'm.

582
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: Obsessed with her. Love her, Yeah, I love.

583
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: Her And allegedly, allegedly allegedly.

584
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: They left because they wanted more money.

585
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 3: And listen, it's like, once you get to that sort

586
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: of caliber of real estate agent, I can totally see

587
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: that being It's like, I mean, it's such a demanding thing,

588
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: and like if you're making so much more money selling houses,

589
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: like it has to be worth it for you to

590
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: do to film a reality show for that long, you know,

591
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 3: And so like, yeah, I could totally see them having

592
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: gotten too expensive because like they're extremely legit, and I

593
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: think it's a really good marketing tool. Show like that

594
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 3: if you're in real estate. But yeah, I'm with you, Yeah,

595
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

596
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: Okay, before we get to the latest episode of Billy Hills,

597
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: I have a confession to make in my shirt voice.

598
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I have a confession.

599
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: I have never seen The Valley, never seen an episode.

600
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: I've never I know, I know, I know. I'm getting red.

601
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: I can, I can, I can? I can? I can?

602
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: I can.

603
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: I can see the fingers on my Spotify comments.

604
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: Reading me and giving giving me a one star review.

605
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: I get it. I apologize in advance. Leave me alone,

606
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: rain drops. I saw the trailer for season two, so

607
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: my assistant, Liz the she literally said to me, even

608
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: if you never watched the show, watch the trailer. Gibson

609
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: John's let me tell you something, honey, Bunny.

610
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: I was in rim sleep. I was. I was.

611
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: I was in rim sleep, meaning the fact that I

612
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: have slept on this show. No one told me that

613
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: The Valley is like old school fan the Pump Rules,

614
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: where it wasn't about the wealth, it wasn't about the

615
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: aspiration it gives us.

616
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 4: Oh no, girl, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

617
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 4: it's about it.

618
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 3: It's about It's about millennials who are in that next

619
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: stage of life, after rules, after Southern charm, after whatever,

620
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: and because of what our generation has gone through, like

621
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 3: they don't have all the money to like or they

622
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: don't have it all figured out like maybe people did

623
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 3: in a different generation. And I think that's what's so

624
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 3: compelling about it. It's like it's something we It kind

625
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 3: of feels like something we haven't seen on TV before.

626
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 3: And like all their manage, all of their marriages are

627
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 3: sort of like teetering on the edge, you know what

628
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 3: I mean.

629
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 4: They can go either way, and it's really good drama.

630
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 4: It is really good. And some of them last season

631
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 4: were like a little some of them were a little sleepy.

632
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 4: But this season it looks like they're all clocked in.

633
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 4: And that trailer was a doozy. It really was.

634
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sold, so raindrops. I'm going to recap the

635
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: Valley season too. I'm here for it.

636
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 4: Elliott car right, Jack, I mean, I get him getting

637
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 4: served on camera, him getting served. They opened the door

638
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 4: and they're like you hear your papers, Like, come on,

639
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 4: that's that's soap opera.

640
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: That is so good, that's what it is. It reminded

641
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: me of why I fell in love.

642
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: I fell in love with reality because it wasn't about

643
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: like how beautiful someone looks their wardrobe. It felt so

644
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: real and organic and just like again the reason why

645
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: we fell in love with old band the Pumbrils, like

646
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: seasons one to like five, you know, like it just

647
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: felt gritty and raw and real, like kind of like

648
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: Jergy short ish where it just didn't feel polished, and

649
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: I felt like that's what's missing from television.

650
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: So I'm going to recap it because I don't know

651
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: how much I can stand this season of Beverly Hills.

652
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: I mean, the last two episodes were a snooze balloons.

653
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: We need a cast shake up, but I mean, let's

654
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: just start there. We need a cast shake up. I can't.

655
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what threw me off. I'm just

656
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 2: being honest.

657
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: I don't like watching two friends, Son and Garcel in

658
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: this case, in front of each other having a conversation

659
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: and then you cut to an interview slash confessional and

660
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: the confessional bites. The confessional conversations, moments sound bites are

661
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: more interesting than the actual scene. So when Garcella was

662
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: calling out Sutton in her interview chair. Sutton dusneed coll approval,

663
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: Son is scared of Kyle. I don't want to see

664
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 1: that while you're in the chair. I want to see

665
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: you say's your best friend and say are you afraid?

666
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: I don't like it, and I think this season the

667
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: reason why we all love to read is because it

668
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: was like, finally somebody's saying shit to these girls' faces.

669
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: And to open up the episode with that, I was like,

670
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: what the fuck happened to these girls? It's I don't

671
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: like this idea that you can't say things to your

672
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: alleged friend in front of your face, but you choose

673
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: to say it in an interview.

674
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 2: I don't like that.

675
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I I clocked that too.

676
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: And it's weird because it doesn't it feels like it's

677
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: something that Garcea would say to Sutton's face. So I

678
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: don't really know why she couldn't do that in the moment,

679
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: and to me, like I have, I haven't up until

680
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 3: I would say a couple episodes ago, I actually was

681
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 3: really enjoying the season. But what I'm it just feels

682
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: like now we're on this hamster wheels sort of the

683
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: same dynamics playing out, like they're missing another factor. They're

684
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 3: missing another sort of chaos agent in there. That like

685
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: is because right now it's sort of like we're okay,

686
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: We're back to Kyle and Sutton trying to be friends again.

687
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 4: We're back to Dreet and Kyle being friends again.

688
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 3: Now it's we're back to Callington now for her messy behavior,

689
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 3: Like there's no we've seen this all before, and that's

690
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: it just feels like we're hitting replay on this. And

691
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 3: I was talking to my brother a little about this,

692
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: and it feels like this trip to to Saint Lucia,

693
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: where they are, where they are, they just got there.

694
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 3: It has been teased, like none of it's been teased,

695
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: which means like there's probably not that much going on

696
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: on the trip, you know what I mean. Like and

697
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 3: they're gonna odd in the season on this trip, like

698
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 3: we saw it in the trailer, like them dancing around

699
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: and stuff, but we haven't seen any like big other

700
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: than I think one thing on the boat with sut

701
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: in America. We haven't seen like a big moment teased.

702
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: We wee can week out from this trip, and that's

703
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 3: so different from what we saw what we've seen in

704
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: other franchises recently, and so it just gives me, like,

705
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: all right, the rest of the season.

706
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 4: I don't think it's gonna give us much that's interesting now.

707
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you raise a good point, because typically when

708
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: you have explosive moments happened the cast trip, you and

709
00:37:55,320 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: the prior episode with a swort of like teaser of

710
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: what to expect from that trip, because nine times out

711
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: of ten and international cast trip.

712
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 2: Is where you're gonna get your biggest arguments.

713
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 4: Yep.

714
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: And because we didn't not get any of those things,

715
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: I think you're right, Gifts and in the sense of

716
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: nothing has happened, I think it goes to show you

717
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: that the Kyle versus Deriy was obviously the one thing

718
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: they thought what would be interesting, and it was and

719
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: it was and it was the problem. The mistake they

720
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: made was this der and Sutton. I mean, maybe I'm

721
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: alone of this. I could watch that ship for another

722
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: five weeks.

723
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 4: It's good. It's good.

724
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: It's good because Sutton does not like Dori and it's

725
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: and yes, so the fact that these women are like

726
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: no make up, no, I would have been like driving

727
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: ship more like it's the only thing that's that's keeping

728
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 1: it interesting and what has to happen is that show

729
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: needs to have somebody like another.

730
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 2: Because I love Oz. I think she's so like fantastic.

731
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 4: I think she's a great addition.

732
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: I need more of her.

733
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: I need more women like her who are going to

734
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: call things out at face value. The scene with her

735
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: and Kyle that was so beautiful. Yeah, I love that scene.

736
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 1: Let's get into coverde tarps. Okay, everybody knows, including you, Gibson.

737
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: She's my number one favorite housewife of all time that

738
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 1: I haven't worked with. Okay, Nimi, Okay, Teresa okay, Kenya okay, Porsia,

739
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 1: thank you. Disclaimer okay, thank you. I haven't worked with guys. Okay,

740
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: it's Kyle. I'm gonna be very honest here, like I'm

741
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: always am. Kyle should have taken this season off because

742
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: it's evident she's not ready to tell us what happened

743
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: in her marriage for it to dissolve.

744
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 6: I. I, for the life of me, I seriously am confused

745
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 6: by a marriage that I Carlos King got a chance

746
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 6: to witness fourteen years ago, and fourteen years ago, you

747
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 6: guys were married for maybe like ten years at something

748
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 6: like a long time right.

749
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: I have never seen an argument between these two in

750
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: fourteen seasons.

751
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: So for Carlos King, who.

752
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: Can spot anything, I am so fucking confused as to

753
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: what happened. And when I watch Kyle struggle to delicately

754
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: and protectively explain it, it does a disservice to the

755
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 1: audience who built the Kyle Richard's brand on Bravo. I'm

756
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: just keeping I am investing in Kyle. I watch Halloween

757
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: not because of Jamie Curtis, because of Kyle Richard's I'm

758
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: being fucking honest with you, guys. I watched the Peacock

759
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: Holiday movies because of Kyle, not because of anyone else.

760
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: I would watch Kyle seriously.

761
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: Read the ingredients off of a fucking nutrient gena facial mask.

762
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 2: I love this woman. I have invested Kyle.

763
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: I save money a month to buy things you still

764
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: on Amazon.

765
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 2: You got me sis. However, I am frustrated.

766
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: I'm annoyed because I feel let down because I'm not

767
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: getting anything. When she sat on camera and this is

768
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: the part that I literally was like, I don't know

769
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: how long I can like take up for this situation

770
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: because I love Kyo I love Mauricio. I think they're

771
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: beautiful people inside and out.

772
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: But I'm not dumb. When she said, yeah, I just

773
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: don't know what happened. I mean, for a marriage to.

774
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: Take this turn, I just don't know what I don't

775
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: You don't know what happened, So you mean to tell

776
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: me your husband allegedly woke up one day and said,

777
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: I just want to live in a separate house.

778
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 3: But also, it wasn't This is what I'm confused about,

779
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: is it doesn't she the one that initiated the separation,

780
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 3: because like.

781
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 4: I think it's a little unclear, but like, wasn't she

782
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 4: the one?

783
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 3: And I think and I agree with everything you just said,

784
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: And I also tend to sympathize with Kyle and like

785
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 3: be in her corner for a lot of things. I

786
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: think ultimately, the biggest explanation that we can get and

787
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 3: glean from how she's talking this season is she's protecting Morgan,

788
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 3: because clearly, after last season and everything that went down,

789
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: Morgan probably asked her not to her on the show anymore.

790
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 3: And Morgan, whatever the nature of their relationship is, is

791
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 3: very near and dear to Kyle's heart these days, and

792
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 3: she clearly asked Kyle not to talk about her at all,

793
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: not to get into their dynamic again, whatever it is,

794
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 3: and like, but that is a huge blocker in everything,

795
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: whether it's what went wrong in her marriage with Mauricio,

796
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 3: like because that was that was Morgan showed herself around

797
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: the time of the separation, So like that had to

798
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 3: have been a factor, whether again whether it was like

799
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 3: a romantic thing or just sort of like somebody who

800
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: got like intimately like emotional, I don't know who whatever,

801
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 3: But like then it also makes it becomes a blocker

802
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 3: for everybody else in the cast if she's like, don't

803
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: bring this person up, and it's like, well, Morgan was

804
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: on the show last season. We saw you guys like

805
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 3: at the tattoo parlor together, you know, and it's like

806
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 3: it just it feels like Kyle wants to have her

807
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 3: cake and eat it too in this situation, Like she

808
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 3: she left the cat out of the bag and you

809
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 3: can't put it back in, you know what I mean,

810
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 3: And like it's out there, it is, And but you said,

811
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 3: we're not stupid. We're not stupid when it comes to

812
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 3: this either, Like we you know, the whole thing with

813
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 3: Mauricio and the woman in the Mikino's airport. I agree

814
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 3: that that woman probably sold those photos. You probably planned

815
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 3: the photos.

816
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 4: In one and whatever. But like, it's hard to it's

817
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 4: hard to completely sympathize with Kyle in that situation because

818
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 4: how do we think that Mauricio felt seeing all the

819
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 4: photos of her and Morgan. Again, they weren't making.

820
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 3: Out, but they were spotted all over the world together,

821
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 3: following each other around the world.

822
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 4: That had to have made it feel some type of way.

823
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 3: But we're not hearing about it because we're not talking

824
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: about Morgan on the show anymore.

825
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just.

826
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 4: No, it's happening.

827
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: It's it's not great, And I'm gonna tell you the

828
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: reason why it's not great. I think we were all

829
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: expecting at last seasons of Reunion, the three parts that

830
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: could have been won.

831
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 2: Where every part was teased going to up. We're like, Okay,

832
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 2: you don't like or whatever. Yeah, yeah, Like Kyle's gonna

833
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: either come out.

834
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: And say she's my girlfriend or just say I was

835
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: extremitting or saying you guys are an idiots, she's my

836
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: best friend. Fine, whatever, But we still got nothing. And

837
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: what we did get was the fact that I'm gonna

838
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: tell you what Kyle.

839
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: Messed up that music video.

840
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: Yes, m we're her Morgan, we're assimilating kissing and being intimate.

841
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't know who was on Kyle's team at that

842
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: time as an openly gay male, and I'm being honest here,

843
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: I would have said to Kyle, look, this may come

844
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: across as queer baiting, and if that's not your intention intention,

845
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: which I don't think it is, don't do this. Don't

846
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: just don't, don't because it's not going to end well

847
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: for you. If you're gonna do this and then say

848
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: this is your girlfriend, then do it. We love a

849
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: little teas. We love that Tama tea she's quitting. We

850
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: love that Barlow wants a million dollars.

851
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 4: We love episode exactly.

852
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: Lidley caught this episode the teas TZ maybe okay, like

853
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: we like a tease, but it's a fine line to

854
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: where I listen. One of my really really good friends

855
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: who's in the business, not of reality in the industry,

856
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: she said to me at the oply gay man, are

857
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: you offended that this comes across as curbaiting? And I said,

858
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: I don't see it that way. I think I see

859
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: a woman who's trying to figure things out if I'm

860
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 1: being honest, and I think that's understandable. When the music

861
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: video came out, I was like, I mean shit, I

862
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 1: just I don't know what to do here.

863
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: And then I thought this season we would get the moment.

864
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: We'll get the moment and.

865
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: To hear Garsell and suck it giving me Blanche Devereaux

866
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: and b Arthur you know what I mean it It

867
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: was given like you know, like to Betty's gossiping about that,

868
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: well can we ask?

869
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: Like why can we ask about that? And I'm like,

870
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: all of.

871
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: You guys are skilled of kyo because I would say

872
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: similarly to what Kelly did on the season premiere Atlanta Housewife,

873
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 1: A New Housewife Portia's biggest question mark that the girls had.

874
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 2: Was did you steal this woman's husband?

875
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: A New Housewife said it in her first episode Thirsty

876
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: or Not, And I happened to be here for it.

877
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: Somebody has to stand up for like, fuck you, we

878
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: have to have this conversation. So watching that situation and

879
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: then gives and watching her Maurissio, I was just like

880
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: I said to myself, I with Kyle would have this

881
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: taken the season off, I.

882
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 4: Mean, and she took a week off during in the

883
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 4: middle of filming.

884
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 3: It's like and I mean and like again like I understand,

885
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 3: like she's very fragile, and I like, doesn't is figuring

886
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 3: shit out right now. But it's like she put herself

887
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 3: back on a reality show where she has you know,

888
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 3: there's a there's a barometer that we expect as viewers

889
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 3: from her of like you have to share this with us.

890
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 3: And again, like going back to music video. Part of

891
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 3: the issue also that didn't land was like it'd be

892
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 3: one thing again if they were either together very clearly

893
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 3: or if they were very clearly not together, And so

894
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 3: it was sort of like a joke almost for them

895
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 3: to do this, but like their relationship was not defined

896
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 3: at all publicly, and so we were like we were

897
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 3: left thinking, Okay, is this them confirming they're together or

898
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 3: is this like them being in on the joke but

899
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 3: like not being very clear about that, Like it just

900
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 3: wasn't very clear. And and then once they all once

901
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 3: everyone in her cast was like that music video, She's like, oh,

902
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: we were just we were acting.

903
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 4: Or it was whatever.

904
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 3: I agree that and I think that to me like

905
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 3: a larger thing not just on this show. Is like,

906
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 3: I do think that like taking us season off, it

907
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 3: should happen more often for a lot of women on

908
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 3: these shows. And it's like it did Camera Wonders that

909
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 3: you know, I think it would have done Drindo Wonders

910
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 3: if they ever brought back that cast, you know what

911
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 3: I mean. But like it's sometimes you can't see the

912
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 3: force from the trees when you're in this Housewives game

913
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 3: for too long and you need a reality check, You

914
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 3: need to touch grass, you need to a breather, however

915
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 3: you want to say it. And I do think that

916
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 3: it's actually there's no shame in that, but I think

917
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 3: right now there it hasn't. There is kind of a

918
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 3: shame around it because it because it gives being fired,

919
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, an on pause and Bravo

920
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 3: is such a meaningless term now. So I do wish

921
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: that that long standing Housewives would take a season break

922
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 3: more often, because like.

923
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 4: I like, I like them to sort of rewrite that precedent.

924
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, the one is when you he took

925
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: off season I'm seven, I mean eighty a far season eight.

926
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: They did one that's been married off, so like City

927
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: took off his season I actually agree with you. I

928
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: think more housewives should just say like I need a break.

929
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 2: I just it's a lot for me.

930
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: And I think understandably, if I'm called Richards and I

931
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: grew up in this industry, and my sisters Kathy Hilton,

932
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: my niece's parents and Nikki, and my husband business is successful,

933
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: and I'm figuring out my life, I'm allegedly into this

934
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: particular woman, I can understand why that's a lot for you.

935
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: One thing I'll give Portia Williams.

936
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: When she.

937
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: Met Simon and knew all of the drama that was

938
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: surrounding that relationship, she took she jumped ship.

939
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: She jumped ship. She was like, I have to figure

940
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:53,959
Speaker 2: this out.

941
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say this, and this may be controversial,

942
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: but this is because I do love Kyle. So, Kyle,

943
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: if you or your team are listening, I'm gonna say this,

944
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: and it's because I do love you.

945
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 2: If we're not going to have a definitive.

946
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 1: Statement or declaration of your relationship or lack their of

947
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: with Morgan, like definitive or a definitive reason as the

948
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: way happened between you and Mauricio, I do think it's

949
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: in Kyle's.

950
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 2: Best interest to take next season off.

951
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 1: Just take it off and and on some really this

952
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: is this is me on some real shit experience life

953
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: with your possible lady friend or dating and separating and

954
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: divorcing Mauricio and then come.

955
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: Back and be and then explain to us what happened.

956
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: But I I'm telling you, honey body pudding pie, I

957
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: can't take another season of this bait and switch.

958
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

959
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 3: And it's also just it's getting a little repetitive, you

960
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I think that's it's and again

961
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 3: I understand that's what she's going through in her life,

962
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 3: so it's not necessarily like the quote unquote storyline and

963
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 3: she's actually going through this, But it's like every scene

964
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 3: is just like, oh I wasn't I don't know what

965
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 3: to do as an empty nester. Oh like I don't

966
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 3: know where my marrige, Like I don't know why we

967
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 3: got separated or whatever.

968
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 4: Like it's again hamster wheel, you know.

969
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 3: It just feels like we're having the same conversation in

970
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 3: a different font every episode.

971
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

972
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I want to shift gears a bit because

973
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: the only other interesting it was only two for me,

974
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: It was only two moments for me.

975
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 2: Honey, p K.

976
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 4: Oh, I love those one on one scenes.

977
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: P K does not like you. P K said you

978
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: bring out the worst in him. This man does not

979
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: want to be with you. And I'm gonna say it,

980
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: I think p K allegedly has a girlfriend. I think

981
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: I think Pik Mauricio are like, we're out well no

982
00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: pun attended.

983
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: I think the FST lie we're we are like doing

984
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: our own thing right. PK does not want you at all.

985
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: If that scene and not submit his disdaying for Derey,

986
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: I don't know what else will be he gives it.

987
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: I just don't think this man even likes her.

988
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 3: I think I agree with you and like the frustrating

989
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 3: part as a viewer. Who again, I think we've been

990
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 3: so conditioned the season to be in her corner because

991
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 3: of how much she's sort of like stood up for

992
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 3: herself in the group settings. Is that she sort of

993
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 3: reverts back into a different form when she's in these

994
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 3: scenes with PK, and like, That's why I love that

995
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 3: one dinner scene at Kathy's house when Erica was like, no,

996
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 3: like you need to get a lawyer, like he is

997
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 3: trying to divorce you before the ten year mark for

998
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 3: X y z reasons, like, like she they're trying to

999
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 3: give her the reality check that she just so desperately needs,

1000
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 3: because for some reason, she's bucking up so much in

1001
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 3: the group setting with Sutton in particular, and with Kyle

1002
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 3: earlier in the season, but she's not doing so with PK.

1003
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 4: And it's it's.

1004
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 3: Almost like sad to watch. You want to be like

1005
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 3: like you have it in you, like, don't let him

1006
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 3: pull this fast one on you, Like like she can't

1007
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 3: see the writing on the wall with him. I don't

1008
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 3: know if she's blinded by her feelings for him or whatever,

1009
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 3: but I hope that she's gotten to a point now

1010
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 3: where she's like.

1011
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 4: More aware of like how he actually feels about her.

1012
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it's disrespectful, and I mean I do

1013
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 1: feel bad for her because I listen, I do believe

1014
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: that she wanted to make this marriage work.

1015
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 2: I just mean, you know what I mean.

1016
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: I think it's another marriage where we were never ever

1017
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 1: told anything was happening.

1018
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 2: And that's the reason why.

1019
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: Sorry, guys, you have to get Tama judge her props

1020
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: because when she was going through her divorce, we saw

1021
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 1: season of like things going awry. Shout out to Vickon

1022
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: Gobbleson with Donna her Love Tank, we saw seasons of that.

1023
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: We saw with Ninnie and Greg Leak's May He Rest

1024
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: in Peace before they divorced.

1025
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:05,479
Speaker 2: We didn't get any of.

1026
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: That with Dury and PK either, And that's the reason

1027
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: why Beverly Hills needs a soft shakeup.

1028
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,720
Speaker 2: I don't think a big one. I think a soft one.

1029
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: I think I think you got to bring women in

1030
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: like bows to where it's somebody who is willing to

1031
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: give everything to the show. I want to see Erica date.

1032
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 1: I want to see Erica with a hot black man, Honey.

1033
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: She loves a black man too, Honey. I want to

1034
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: see Erica Jane with a dark skinned black man.

1035
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 2: That is just like, excuse my language. I'm not going

1036
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: to say the F word, but like giving it to her, Oh, honey,

1037
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: like this like.

1038
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: Chocolate black man because Erica loves black men too, Honey,

1039
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: joined the club, Erica Jay welcome.

1040
00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 2: But like, I want to see that. But I also, no.

1041
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 3: More wallpaper, No more wallpaper, no more furniture, no more listen.

1042
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 3: I'm sure it was part of the contact to getting

1043
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 3: the furniture to show it X amount of times, but

1044
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't need.

1045
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 4: I don't need the before and after shots in every

1046
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 4: single episode. I just don't. I love meeting Erica Jane

1047
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 4: right now. But I'm like, I get it.

1048
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: We readd the house, so I need this, plains to

1049
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 2: my brain drops. So rain drops.

1050
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: When it's called a trade out. So I'm gonna explain

1051
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: to my brain drops, explain, Okay, okay, it's when. Okay,

1052
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: this typically happens on like wedding specials. So like if

1053
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: you ever watch a reality show and you see the

1054
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: labels of the brand of the company labels, it's contractual obligation.

1055
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: It's called a trade out, meaning, in exchange for maybe

1056
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: a free dress, a free writing dress, a free whatever,

1057
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 1: you have to mention my brand X amount of times.

1058
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 2: Right, So that's called a trade out, your trade.

1059
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: Out the the brand in exchange for airtime, right, And

1060
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: you're trading out the fact that I'm giving you this

1061
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: for free or very very very very very very steep discount.

1062
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 2: Allegedly.

1063
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: It's so obvious that allegedly this redecoration of Erica's house

1064
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: is a trade out, and it also smells to me

1065
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: like a potential Bravol spin off with this guy like it.

1066
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: It's really interesting on the Flipping Out reboot. Oh maybe,

1067
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: I mean Gyp said John, they are doing that.

1068
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 4: With Jeff Lewis they are doing that?

1069
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was Jeff on it or he's the

1070
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: guy has Amazon.

1071
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 4: I agree, Yeah, I think they know.

1072
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 3: I think that they have said this publicly that like

1073
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 3: Jeff is getting another show on Bravo.

1074
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so maybe that's maybe that's part of it.

1075
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 3: The other one that was play trade on Carlos was

1076
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 3: the Caviar has to be a thing where they now

1077
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 3: where they talked about that fucking restaurant every thirty seconds

1078
00:57:59,000 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 3: on that episode.

1079
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 4: I was like, damn.

1080
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 3: They were all the contract like the minimum of thirty mentions.

1081
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 3: I was like, yes, it was like a commercial for

1082
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 3: the restaurant. They were like, we have you our costua,

1083
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 3: like you know Paris.

1084
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 4: It's like I was like, damn.

1085
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what happens.

1086
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: And it also happens on the International Trips just so

1087
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: you know. So anyways, gives it an I on the

1088
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: same page when.

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Speaker 2: It comes to this season start off strong.

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Speaker 1: It's definitely getting a little wat walkie, but I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to the reunion that is airing.

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Speaker 2: I believe April first. So yeah, you guys have them.

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Speaker 4: There you have it.

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Speaker 2: There you have it, you have it, gives it. This

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Speaker 2: has been a joy. You know.

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Speaker 1: I love when you come on and like you bring

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Speaker 1: so much insight. But let the world know when they

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Speaker 1: can follow your amazing podcasts, your social media.

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Speaker 2: Everything you have going on.

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Speaker 4: My podcast is called Gabbing with gibb. Carlos was on it.

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Speaker 4: I think in December when you were out in LA.

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Speaker 3: We have to get you on again sometime soon, at

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Speaker 3: least two episodes a week, have some of the ladies

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Speaker 3: on talk about the show similar to today, and you

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Speaker 3: can follow me at Gibsonoma on All the Things. Always

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Speaker 3: a pleasure, Carlos always all the things.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Gibson with Chat soon, bye bye bye.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Reality with the King.

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Speaker 2: Wherever you get your podcast.

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Speaker 1: Visit Reality withthe King dot com and be sure to

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Speaker 1: follow me at the Carlos King Underscore on Instagram, Twitter,

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Speaker 1: TikTok and yes baby, my YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: Where you can get all of my visuals. Baby my

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Speaker 2: expressions Yeah, don't forget.

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