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Thanks for making us part 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: of your day on whatever platform it is. 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:52,639 Speaker 3: Jmac one hour from now. 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, There's obviously 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: plenty of both. And gotta say the Green Bay Packers 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: no quarterbacks. It can be farm it can be Rogers, 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: it can be Jordan Love. That second half last night. 21 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 4: Whoo, Yeah, twenty straight completions. 22 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 5: Woo. 23 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 3: Let's start with that. 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: So I saw a headline this morning, Up and Coming 25 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: Jordan Love's stars as the Packers beat the Steelers Jordan 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: Love second half on the road, standalone game against maybe 27 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame coach and a veteran defense that's 28 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: as good as second half and that spot as Farvin 29 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: Rogers had, he is elite arm size, mobility, accuracy. Combine 30 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: that with Matt Lafleur's play design and the Green Bay 31 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: smart front office. This is going to be a Super 32 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: Bowl capable winning team for the next five years minimum. 33 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: And last night was very instructive for NFL fans. 34 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: I watched a. 35 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: Game between the Packers and the Steelers, and I saw 36 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: smart and progressive and offensively nimble for one franchise. And 37 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: then I also watched the Steelers. I mean, these are 38 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: two franchises going in the opposite direction, with the opposite ideology. 39 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has done a good job to put some 40 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: makeup on this organization, but need a facelift. 41 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: Two iconic franchises. 42 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: One of them has embraced offense, one as an old quarterback, 43 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: one as a young star. One is loaded with young 44 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: talent at wide receiver and tight end. The other spends 45 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: a fortune on defense. It's revolutionary against the rust belt. 46 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: As Steelers spent all that money on defense, why do 47 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: they tackle so poorly. And for the record, Las Vegas season. 48 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: You know who's favored to win the AFC North this morning, 49 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: the two and five Baltimore Ravens. You can't fool Vegas. 50 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: You can see it in the Steelers' mentality. First half, 51 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: fourth and three, Let's kick a field goal. That's not it, man, 52 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: that's not it. The second half by Jordan Love and 53 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: Matt LeFleur, all time stuff, sixteen to nineteen, outscore the 54 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: Steelers twenty eight to nine, passer rating at one forty eight. 55 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: And the Steelers meanwhile dead last and fourth down attempts. 56 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: It's punts and field goals. Mike Tomlin, Pittsburgh stuck in 57 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: the wrong era, and it was so instructive to watch 58 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: green Bay, little small market green Bay draft and develop 59 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: and pay. I mean there, you look at what green 60 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: Bay is paying star quarterback Micah Parsons. It's all the 61 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: right stuff, right. There's an offensive lineman making a lot 62 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: of money. There's a coach in a quarterback making money. 63 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: There's a hash rusher making money. Pittsburgh gets old. It's defense. 64 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: Aaron's doing the best job. You can to put a 65 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: little makeup on the blemishes. But they need a lot 66 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: more than that. This was about Jordan Love. This is 67 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: what green Bay does. Pittsburgh doesn't show the urgency at quarterbacks, 68 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: so they end up with a forty one year old quarterback. 69 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: Green Bay drafts quarterbacks three years before they need them, 70 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: let them develop, And Jordan Love is no longer up 71 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: and coming. 72 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: Stop it. 73 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: He's the top six to seven guy in the league. 74 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: He has officially arrived as a star quarterback in this league. 75 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: And here is Matt Lafleuur after. 76 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 6: It's great for Jordan's worked his off to get here. 77 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 6: You know, he was patient throughout the process, throughout the journey, 78 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 6: and he just he took advantage of the opportunity. 79 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 2: He's a great teammate, He encourages. 80 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 6: The other guys. He's a hell of a leader, and 81 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 6: he's really grown as a football player. 82 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no up and coming about it. That second half, 83 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: in that space, that defense, that coach, that was something else. 84 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: And I said this last year and I've said it 85 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: a half a dozen times this year. That tight end 86 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: craft that is a ten year Pro bowler. That guy 87 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: is unbelievable. There's your Travis Kelce. I mean, that kid 88 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: is unbelievable. It's amazing where you get these tight end 89 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: small schools. Fourth round, George Kittle, fifth round. That kid 90 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: is an all time talent. Way to go Packers. 91 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: Well well, well, what do you know? 92 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: As the Packers are surging the rival Bears at the 93 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: most important position and offense, look a little lost. That 94 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: was a bad loss to Baltimore. Lamar Jackson can't play 95 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,559 Speaker 1: and the Ravens still controlled the game. Third straight week 96 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: or is it second straight week? Caleb Williams didn't ever 97 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: a touchdown, So first, Tyler Huntley deserves a lot of credit. 98 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: The backup quarterback for the Ravens. Total pro, totally coachable, 99 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: very efficient. That kid seventy seven percent completion percentage of 100 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: no turnovers, never got the Ravens in trouble. Let's let's 101 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: be honest. He was tremendous. He's exactly what a backup 102 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: quarterback should be. Let's give that kid credit. Tyler Huntley, 103 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: you are a pro. You are exactly what I want 104 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: from a backup. I mean he made every time they 105 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: asked him to make a big throw, he did it. 106 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: So let's just not blast Caleb. That is what a 107 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: backup quarterback is. I may need you twice a year. 108 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: Lamar was there, high five in him, pro gets the 109 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: playoff in time, made three or four big throws, new 110 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: when to get down, new when to throw it away. 111 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: That's one of the best backup performances you're gonna see. Now, 112 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 1: let's talk Caleb, because that's what the game was about. 113 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson is a timing and rhythm head coach of 114 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: the Bears. Folks, Caleb is not a timing rhythm quarterback. 115 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: It's a weird marriage. Maybe it lasts, but they're going 116 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: to be in therapy for twenty five years. 117 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: This thing is going to be a weird marriage. Caleb. 118 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 3: Here's what's worrisome. 119 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: If you look at Caleb, he's very good right in 120 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: the on script in the first quarter, but in the 121 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: second through fourth quarters he's completing fifty eight percent of 122 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: his throws and it gets worse. On the opening drive 123 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: of the game, Caleb Williams this year completes eighty one 124 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: percent of his throws with one hundred and eleven passer rating. 125 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: The rest of the game, he completes fifty nine percent 126 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: with an eighty seven passer rating. You take away that 127 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: opening drive with Ben Johnson and I've said you got 128 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: the right coach, and he gets ugly. I mean the 129 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: Bears offense. It's like that kid when the parents are home. 130 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: He's fine, they lead go to the grocery store. They 131 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: come back and the house is burned down. You can't 132 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: script the entire game. You gotta be good beyond the 133 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: first or second series. You gotta be able to do 134 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: stuff on your road. And he's dynamic. I think he's 135 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: a nice guy. He's got a big arm. He's obviously 136 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: on script, very coachable. But top tier quarterbacks hit the layups. 137 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: Even the layups look hard. And that interception by Caleb 138 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: is a prime example. Caleb saw it one way, that interception, 139 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: he saw it one way. Ben Johnson sees this interception 140 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: an entirely different way. 141 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: Listen to this. 142 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 5: He undercut the path, the route, and I, you know, 143 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 5: I could have let him know farther out in front 144 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 5: instead of trying to give him a shot right here. 145 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 3: And you know that's that's you. 146 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 5: Know, he did it. He made a great break on 147 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 5: the play, just unfortunate where we were on the field 148 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 5: in the situation. Yeah, I have to check it out 149 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 5: on film just one more time, just in my mind. 150 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: There might have been another option that we could have 151 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: gotten gotten. 152 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 3: To not good. 153 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: If I would have told you before the game one 154 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks would complete seventy seven percent of his 155 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: throws and have a one hundred and seventeen passer rating, 156 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: you probably wouldn't have guessed the undrafted career backup. 157 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 3: Not good. Again, some marriages need a lot of therapy. 158 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: And I think the Bears have to play it out 159 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: for the rest of the year and probably next year. 160 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: And there is a big arm that throw a DJ Moore. 161 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: It could be exciting, It is fun. There are moments 162 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: he's talented. I'm not saying that, but the top tier 163 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this league all have something in common. Twelve 164 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: yards and under the laps Drake May it's it's easy. 165 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just really easy looking some of this 166 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: stuff is. It shouldn't be this hard. It shouldn't be 167 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: this difficult. We've seen him to open the season, We've 168 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: seen them with extra time. It just looks hard all 169 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: the time. And again, first drive, he's one quarterback, rest 170 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: of game he's another. So he's coachable. He listens, but 171 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: you can't hold a hand, you can't babysit in this league. 172 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: At some point you're gonna have fourteen possessions. Twelve are 173 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: kind of on you. So I've said before, your eyes 174 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: don't lie. This is not ideal. I mean, and for 175 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: the record, Sean McVeigh chose Jared Goff and he moved 176 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: off him. Ben Johnson didn't choose Caleb. I'm not saying 177 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: there's resentment, but this is a timing rhythm coach. It's 178 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: not a timing and rhythm quarterback. You can win with 179 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: timing and rhythm. You can win Cam Newton got to 180 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. You can win the other way. I think, 181 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: for consistency's sake, you gotta be more timing and rhythm 182 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: than just do it yourself. For the record, Jordan Love 183 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: can do the timing and rhythm, but Jordan Love also 184 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: sees the field. He does a lot of stuff on 185 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: his own. So does Mahomes. I mean, the more I 186 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: watch Jordan Love, you know who I see. Patrick Mahomes. 187 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: That's what I see. I'm not saying he's Patrick Mahomes. 188 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: But when I looked at Andrew Luck, I said five 189 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: years ago, I'm like, Sam Darnold is like eighty percent 190 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: of Andrew Luck. 191 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: He's not as good as Andrew Luck. 192 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: But when I watched Darnold come out, I said, it's 193 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: like Andrew Luck, not as good. When I watched Jordan 194 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: Love's size, movement, arm can follow. Coaching can be good. Offscript, 195 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: I see some mahomes, some mahomes with Caleb. I don't 196 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: know exactly what I see. I don't I don't quite 197 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: know the timing and rhythm stuff. It said before, it's 198 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: hard to quarterback efficiently in the NFL, but it can't 199 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: look too hard. Like marriage isn't easy, but if you're 200 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: in therapy twice a week, it probably isn't gonna work. Right. 201 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: So that's where we are today, Jay Mack, once again, 202 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: here come the Packers surging. 203 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: You had it to a Super Bowl in Chicago's trying 204 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 3: to figure out offense. 205 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 4: You know, I saw an interesting stat that Kyle Hamilton, 206 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 4: the great safety for the Ravens, was in the box 207 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 4: on sixty one percent of snaps. So the Ravens said, 208 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 4: we're gonna take away the run game. Caleb, can you 209 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 4: beat us? 210 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 211 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 3: He couldn't. 212 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: He could not do it. You take away the run. 213 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 4: Game, and by the way, I think you're letting the 214 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 4: Bears defense off the hook, Colin. They let Tyler Huntley 215 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 4: get the ravens of the red zone six times. 216 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: Well, you know what, you know what it is the 217 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: Bears defense. It's a little fools goal. Yes, it's a 218 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: takeaway defense, right, Okay, so when they take the ball 219 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: away they go on a four game winning street. But 220 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: when they don't take it away, they give up like 221 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: six yards of play. And you saw it time and 222 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: time again. Is I mean, we got to give credit 223 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: to Tyler Huntley. I know he's a backup and he's 224 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: not a star, and he doesn't he's in our business. 225 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: We're not going to talk a lot about him. That 226 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: is exactly what I want from a backup quarterback. 227 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 3: That was one of the. 228 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: Most impressive backup quarterback performances. I mean, if you didn't 229 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: know who he was, you'd be like, oh, that guy's 230 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: pretty good. You can win playoff games with that guy. 231 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 4: I think the Bears were down a few guys in 232 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 4: the secondary, so like things lined up. 233 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 3: The whole league is down people. That's the problem. 234 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 4: You know, Listen, my Jets put up five hundred yards 235 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 4: of offense and Garrett. 236 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: Wilson didn't even play. 237 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 3: It's like, what where did that come from. 238 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, the world's best football team, the Kansas 239 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: City Chiefs, play tonight. We have Game three of the 240 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: World Series tonight. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong. 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Halloween is Friday night the Cowherd Grotto. 265 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: We'll be serving up fresh produce to all the children 266 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:43,479 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood. 267 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: Well maybe some M and MS two. 268 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: All right, j Mac, you know, right and wrong is 269 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: a staple on this show. Indeed, and sometimes, unlike Yoshi I, 270 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: I surrender a meatball and it gets hit out of 271 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: the stadium. 272 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: So here we go to Monday. Colin right, Colin. 273 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: Wrong, where Colin was right. 274 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: I told you, I told you earlier this year, and 275 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: I told you last year. AJ Brown, there's drama, Jalen Hurtz, 276 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: head down, grinder, You're not going to deal with any 277 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: of it. They had their best offensive game by a 278 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: long shot without AJ Brown. Maybe it's coincidental, or maybe 279 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: the only thing that gets in the way of a 280 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: great locker room is drama. And there's a little bit 281 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: of drama. It gets people sidetracked. But the Eagles I 282 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: watched yesterday looked like the Eagles that got to a 283 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: super Bowl last year. 284 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: Where Colin was raw. 285 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I kicked Buffalo out of the hurt hierarchy. My bad, 286 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: They're still good. What was remarkable is that Josh Allen 287 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: only at nineteen pass attempts. They looked like the real deal. 288 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: You know, what do you need to say when Josh 289 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: is feeling it. I don't think Caroline is as terrible 290 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: as everybody wants to say. I think Caroline is okay. 291 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: But gotta be honest. That was impressive where Colin was right. 292 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel and New England first play six and two. 293 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: This will mark the fourth straight year that my double 294 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: their win total pick will come to fruition. 295 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 3: They're still in the rebuild. 296 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: They still need to meet a consistent pass rusher, another 297 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: perimeter weapon, but they're well coached. And Drake may Man 298 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: does that look good? Just the eye test, accurate size, well, 299 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: he moves, knows when to slide. Uh. 300 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were right on that one. 301 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: Where Colin was raw. 302 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: I thought Brian Kelly would work at LSU. I thought 303 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: it was a weird fit. That whole you know, Southern 304 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: Twain thing he had I thought was weird, But I 305 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: mean the. 306 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 3: Guy won everywhere. 307 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: Ed Orzron one and Natty at LSU and Brian is 308 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: a good coach pre LSU he won big at three 309 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: different programs. Smart guy, but you know what, it just 310 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: go to a show that fit matters. And this was 311 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: always I think you knew this. It was a weird fit. 312 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: Where Colin was right. 313 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: Said it last year when the Indianapolis local media was saying, 314 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: you gotta fire Chris Ballard the GM, and I'm like, 315 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: are you guys crazy? If you watch the games, they're 316 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: bad at quarterback, they're good everywhere else. 317 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 3: They're all lines. 318 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: Good, Taylor, Pierce, Pittman. I mean, they could use another 319 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: pass rusher. They're probably one cornerback shy, but the whole 320 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: NFL could use another cornerback. This is a well constructed 321 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: team that jet the sky was never falling in this league. 322 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: If you don't have quarterback right, it makes everybody else 323 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: look in confident. The GM and the coach are excellent. 324 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: They just needed a trigger man. And I would be 325 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: shocked if they don't sign Daniel Jones to an extension. 326 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong. 327 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 1: The Celtics are winless without Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown's 328 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: even playing well. Listen, the last several years, the point 329 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: differential didn't change that much. In fact, the offense was 330 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: better when he didn't play. Now, I didn't think the 331 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: team was better, but they've been fine without Jason Tatum 332 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: for several years. Right now, their offense thirtieth in the NBA, 333 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: dead last. So I mean, listen, we know he's a 334 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: good player, good kid. In the short term, they were 335 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: fine without Jason Tatum. In the long term, it is 336 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: ugly because Jalen Brown's playing well. 337 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 3: Jaylen Brown always plays well. 338 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: Where Colin was right, Colorado got. 339 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: Baked again fifty three to seven, lost to Utah down 340 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: forty three to nothing at half. Listen, I said Deon 341 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: Sanders was great to get attention. Dion Sanders was good 342 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: for energy and some recruiting. He's not an elite football coach. 343 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: They're one in four in the Big twelve. You know, again, 344 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: not every coach is just about w's. I think at Colorado, 345 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: with some of their revenue issues, nil world, I think 346 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: Dion was a good choice. But we always said this staff, 347 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: I mean that, come on, I mean, you have to 348 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: be one thousand percent committed to coaching to be really, 349 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: really even good at it, and I just never thought 350 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: Dion was that level of a coach. Where Colin was right, 351 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: I have never waivered on Justin Herbert. Top five quarterback 352 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: period and right now, second in touchdown passes in the NFL, 353 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: first in passing yards with a number three running back 354 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: back up everywhere on the offensive line, he's faced twenty 355 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: more pressures than the next quarterback in the NFL. 356 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: They are five and three. 357 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: They just blew out the Vikings and again he is 358 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: doing it with most of the offense either gone. 359 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 3: Or not playing. 360 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: Where Colin was raw. 361 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm making an exception with quarterbacks wearing their hat 362 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: on backwards. Justin was it a Laker game with singer 363 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: and model Madison Beer Listen. 364 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm a true romantic. I'm sorry. 365 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: Everything in life has exceptions. It was his off day. 366 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: I mean he didn't have practice. I mean he look 367 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: at it. It's like a hero. I mean, everybody in 368 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: life has to make one exception. Okay, I made a 369 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: big exception, and oh my bad. 370 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: I'm a true romantic. 371 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: I see, you know a lot more than just Valentine's 372 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: Day cards going forward. So I'm going to make a 373 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: little tiny exception with quarterbacks and their hat on backwards. 374 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: Influencer artist, Hey, it's an artist. Mean maybe maybe he's 375 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: becoming a little more ad libby and with that, Matt 376 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: hasselback eighteen years in the NFL. Listen, I have a 377 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: lot of kids, and I have rules. 378 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: I am. 379 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: I'll make a second exception on quarterbacks. 380 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: I like you and herl it. Hey, I don't know. 381 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 8: Romantic is that the right word. Listen for him. He's 382 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 8: got such beautiful hair. Though it's kind of like a headband. 383 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 8: He's just like keeping it back. He's like Jim McMahon 384 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 8: in that headband, said Roselle. 385 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: I mean, look at that beautiful hair. 386 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 8: It's amazing. 387 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 3: Ye, there's a lot of beautiful things there and that 388 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 3: his hair. 389 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 8: You're such a romantic. You're such a romantic. 390 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I know all right. 391 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: So I'm watching the Packers last night and I said 392 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: this during the break about half hour ago, and j 393 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: Mack rolled his eyes and I said, listen, stop telling me. 394 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: Jordan loves up and coming. That's elite size armobilly. I 395 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: think he's got a little he got a little homes 396 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: in in where he can do the underneath stuff. 397 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 3: You can put him on script. But I'm sorry. 398 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: Matt, he is just one of those guys that the 399 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: ball looks different. It's just he's such a natural, fluid guy. 400 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: What do you see. 401 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, he's awesome. Listen, it's so weird what the Packers 402 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 8: have done. They went from Far to Rodgers to Love 403 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,239 Speaker 8: so seamlessly. In a world where no one can get 404 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 8: the quarterback, right, those three guys kind of sort of 405 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 8: started playing like each other. I think Jordan Love plays 406 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 8: a lot like Aaron Rodgers you know, and I know 407 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 8: Matt Lafleur is there sing coaches. It is Rogers finished 408 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 8: with and that's who's training him up. He's great. I 409 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 8: think one of the best things about him is his calmness, 410 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 8: his demeanor when the moments get huge. He's got a 411 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 8: Jalen Hurts vibe about him, like yeah, yeah, this is 412 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 8: really cool. This is fun. I get to go play 413 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 8: against Aaron Rodgers at Lambeau, No big deal. Yeah we're 414 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 8: gonna do a jersey swap later. Like that's awesome. Like 415 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 8: it's incredible to have that level of you know, like, 416 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 8: this is a guy he probably grew up watching, and 417 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 8: now everywhere he goes in Green Bay people love Aaron Rodgers. 418 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 8: A lot of those guys have Super Bowl rings on 419 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 8: their fingers, are at home because Aaron Rodgers helped him 420 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 8: get it. And yet he's like, yeah, it's cool, Like 421 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 8: I'm going with my guys that might really be his guys. 422 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 8: They're all hugging before the game, and I'm going to 423 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 8: be like, yeah, this is my team now, I got it. 424 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 8: I'm looking forward to this. I love that about him. 425 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 8: And yeah, sure, like all the throwing and all that stuff, 426 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 8: he's got that as well. There's no doubt about that. 427 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: Listen, everybody could beat up on Aaron Rodgers, but there's 428 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: sometimes you go to a company and the company has 429 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: a culture, and there's only so much you can do 430 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: within that culture. And this is a spend their money 431 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: on defense, a defensive head coach. They're still on fourth 432 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: and three, punting it or kicking field goals. 433 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: I think Aaron's doing. 434 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: Kind of about as much as a forty one year 435 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: old quarterback can do with Pittsburgh's offense. 436 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: Or am I wrong? 437 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: Now? 438 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 8: And they're the Pittsburgh Steelers, like they're never going to change. 439 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 8: They're bigger than any one player. I don't care who 440 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 8: the player is. For decades now, Aaron Rodgers breathed life 441 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 8: into that offense and that excitement. I think the defense 442 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 8: just isn't matching the intensity. They're not matching the level 443 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 8: of execution. They spend a lot of money in that defense. 444 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 8: I don't know if you know that, but they're not 445 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 8: playing like it. And I think in that game there 446 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 8: were just so many efficient runs from the Packers, especially 447 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 8: late in the game. And by efficient run, I mean 448 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 8: like if it's second and two and you run the 449 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 8: ball for three yards, like that's perfect, that's called an 450 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 8: efficient run. And so like, not every run has to 451 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 8: be an explosive run, but when it's a running down, 452 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 8: we're moving the chains. That's where the Packers couldn't help 453 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 8: their quarterback out. They couldn't help out Aaron Rodgers on 454 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 8: the other side of the ball. So no, I mean, 455 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 8: this is still a playoff team in my mind because 456 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 8: their division is so bad and they can figure it out. 457 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 8: But the leadership in that locker room in Pittsburgh has 458 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 8: to step up and say, hey, guys, listen, this is 459 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 8: where the Pittsburgh Steelers. We're known for our defense, Like, 460 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 8: let's be known for it in a good way, not 461 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 8: in the way that, hey, we're letting down our Hall 462 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 8: of Fame quarterback. 463 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 3: So this happens in the NBA. 464 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: It happens in the NFL, not that frequently, but from 465 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: time to time, a really great player leaves and so 466 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: does some drama and the team plays better. And I've 467 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: seen it happen in the NBA. It's not just all 468 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: about you know, great players. Chemistry is so undervalue. You 469 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: live with these guys for eight nine months. AJ Brown 470 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: doesn't play. The offense looked like the Super Bowl offense. 471 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: And it's like, I like AJ Brown, I love him, 472 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: But is it a coincidence? 473 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 3: They were that good yesterday? 474 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 8: But they did play the Giants. I mean so, I mean, 475 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 8: I mean, you know, it's a rivalry game the Giants. 476 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: Listen. 477 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 8: The Giants had too many mental errors, mental mistakes on defense. 478 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 8: They let Saquon Barkley go for the first touchdown of 479 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 8: the game. I think AJ bark I think AJ Brown 480 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 8: is an incredible player and very important in the Phillies 481 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 8: offense to all their success. They didn't need him yesterday. 482 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 8: They played out standing without him yesterday. But they also 483 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 8: rushed the ball for like almost three hundred yards. Dallas 484 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 8: Goddard is a weapon. He showed up big time again. 485 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 8: You know, the Giants didn't do a great job of 486 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 8: trying to stop him, and then other people stepped up, 487 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 8: Like late in the game, they're going all out blitz. 488 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 8: Jalen Hurts is forced to throw the ball. He throws 489 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 8: a beautiful pass to Dotson. He goes up in moss. 490 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 8: Is somebody like this, This is a complete team. This 491 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 8: is probably you know, a lot of people's favorite to 492 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 8: be the Super Bowl representative for the NFC. I think 493 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 8: this is a team that I believe in. I've believed 494 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 8: in them for a long time. The drama they seem 495 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 8: to be used to it. There's there's something about the 496 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 8: mental toughness of this team. But yes, I would agree, 497 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 8: you don't want an energy vampire on the sidelines and 498 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 8: diva wide receivers can do that in this case. I 499 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 8: don't think aj Brown is that. I think his importance 500 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 8: to the team is value to the team is real. 501 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 502 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 2: and noon Easter not a Empacific. 503 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 1: You know I was thinking about this this morning. Is 504 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: that just because a baker and a chef are in 505 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: the kitchen, they have two different skill sets. 506 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: One baking is following. 507 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: You know recipes, and you know chef is a little 508 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: of this and a little of that, and a pinch 509 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: of that. Is that quarterbacks we all just think big 510 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: strong pros. 511 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 3: Okay, that's not it. 512 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: Some guys are timing and rhythm quarterbacks, and some coaches 513 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: are timing and rhythm coaches. And then you get Cam 514 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: Newton or you get kind of far. I guess you 515 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: could say he's just kind of Listen, I'm gonna have 516 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 1: libs some of this stuff. I watch Ben Johnson and 517 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: I watch Caleb on script. That's one quarterback, but the 518 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: other twelve possessions. I'm not trying to be harsh, but 519 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: it just doesn't it shouldn't be this hard, Matt, should it? 520 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 8: Well, I think Caleb Williams is still a work in progress. 521 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 8: He's a young quarterback, and you know, like I get 522 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 8: what you're saying, Like the baker and the chef, the 523 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 8: scouts are gonna love this guy. He has wow plays 524 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 8: and explosive plays that are just like amazing, Like you 525 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 8: can't coach that, you can't find it anywhere. That's what 526 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 8: scouts love. But what coaches love is consistency. I put 527 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 8: myself in that boat too. I want consistency. I just 528 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 8: want you to do it the right way. And I 529 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 8: think Caleb is trying. He's trying to throw on time, 530 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 8: He's trying desperately not to take sacks, but in the process, 531 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 8: kind of like what Will Levis did last year. He 532 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 8: was trying so hard not to take sacks. He's you know, 533 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 8: intentional grounding here and there. He's hurting his team in 534 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 8: other ways. He's missing guys that are wide open, and 535 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 8: so listen. I'm not trying to throw stones. I just 536 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 8: think he's a work in progress. But to me, so 537 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 8: far what I see, I think Ben Johnson is here 538 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 8: to stay as a great head coach. Will it work 539 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 8: out with these two guys, I'm not so sure. I'm 540 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 8: not so sure. The wild plays might be enough for 541 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 8: Ben Johnson to say, hey, I believe in my ability 542 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 8: as a coach. I can mold this guy. But at 543 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 8: the same time, the Bears are talented team and they 544 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 8: want to be winning games. They don't want to be 545 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 8: losing to the Baltimore Ravens the way they did yesterday. 546 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 3: I got to give credit. I know it's not a 547 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 3: flashy story. 548 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: I thought Tyler Huntley as a backup, that's about as 549 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: well as a backup can play. I mean, honestly, I 550 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: kept waiting for a mistake. I kept figuring, Okay, he's 551 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: a backup. 552 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 3: I was. 553 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: I mean that I looked at him and I'm like, 554 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: that's a professional athlete. I could not believe how efficient 555 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: he was. Or is it the Bears defense is overrated. 556 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 8: I actually think he's a really good player and he's 557 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 8: a great fit to back up Lamar. I think he 558 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 8: could be somebody's starter. Last year he didn't play great, 559 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 8: and I'm not sure why because every year before that 560 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 8: he was very, very impressive. To me, I think he's 561 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 8: one of the I don't know. I would love to 562 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 8: coach him. I think he's a fun player to watch. 563 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 8: I think he does everything right. He plays on time. 564 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 8: You know, I don't know if there's a huge fan 565 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 8: club for him, but I'm in it if there is one. 566 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 3: Okay. 567 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: So sometimes, you know, it's so funny about this league. 568 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: We've seen Baker and Donald reinvent themselves. Daniel Jones was 569 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: so bad with the Giants it's hard to unsee it. 570 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: So Kyle Shanahan, you know, he saw the Sam Darnald, 571 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: the Caroline and the Jets, and he's like, no, no, I 572 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: see it. I see the talent, he brings him out, 573 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: and then Sam changes. I looked at Daniel Jones and 574 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm totally wrong. I'm like, I can't unsee it. He's 575 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: too stiff. I know he's a big, strong guy, but 576 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: he's too stiff. It looks too hard. Are you shat? 577 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Indy's going to give him an extension. 578 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: I think you have to. Are you shocked by it? 579 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 8: No, I'm not shocked at all. In fact, I feel 580 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 8: like I called this. This is you know, he went 581 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 8: and spent some time with the Minnesota Vikings, like, you know, 582 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 8: similar to what Sam Darnold did with the forty nine ers, 583 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 8: similar to what really to what Mac Jones is trying 584 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 8: to do right now. And he showed up. And everything 585 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 8: I heard in Indianapolis from day one, they were like, 586 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 8: look out, I know, we drafted a guy really high 587 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 8: in the first round, but Daniel Jones is going to 588 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 8: be our starter. He's been unbelievably impressive and top to bottom. 589 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 8: I don't care who you talk to, from ownership on 590 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 8: all the way down. People have been saying from day one, 591 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 8: like this is going to be our guy. This is 592 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 8: going to be our guy. Reminds them of a lot 593 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 8: of the characteristics that they had and some of the 594 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 8: other great quarterbacks that they had there in the past. 595 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 8: So listen, this is maybe one of the best teams 596 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 8: in football and no one's given them credit. I think 597 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 8: it's starting to come. They got a huge one coming 598 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 8: up against Pittsburgh that'll be a challenge, but if they 599 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 8: go and beat Pittsburgh, I think there's no denying it. 600 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 8: We could talk about Daniel Jones as a possible MVP candidate, 601 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,239 Speaker 8: if not his teammate Jonathan Taylor, and we could talk 602 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 8: about the Indianapolis Colts possibly being the one seed in 603 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 8: the AFC UH with a you know, with a first 604 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 8: round by and hosting playoff games in a dome stadium. 605 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 8: Look Out for the Indianapolis Colts. They're for real. 606 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. I okay, So a full disclosure. 607 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: I saw bow Nicks play twice in College Live and 608 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: I was a huge fan, and I've I covered Oregon 609 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: for a long time, so I just liked the program. 610 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: And I'm a huge Sean Payton guy because I worked 611 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: with him at Fox per year, and I just think 612 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: he's really bright and has a million ideas, not all 613 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: of them right, but he's got a million ideas. I'm 614 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: watching them first of all, between Sutton and Mims and 615 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: Franklin and this this kid from Illinois. Those guys are 616 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: like long, they run well, they can stretch the field. 617 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 3: I'm just telling you. 618 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: When I as a consumer watched Denver, I just see 619 00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: athletes everywhere way in on that offense, bow and on. 620 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 8: Well, they got a great defense, and then that helps 621 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 8: the offense. And Sean is very confident, knows exactly what 622 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 8: he wants to do, has done it for a long time. 623 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 8: And as a quarterback, he's exactly the kind of guy 624 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 8: you didn't want to play for. I think what bow 625 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 8: Knicks is so great at and a lot of people 626 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 8: you know, and I would say every coach I ever 627 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 8: had would say, hey, quarterbacks, you make so much money 628 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 8: because of what we expect you to do on third down, 629 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 8: red zone in two minutes. And that's where bo Nicks 630 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 8: to me, has been outstanding. Third down, even fourth down. 631 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 8: He's been incredible with his arm, with his legs, with 632 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 8: his mind, just really impressive. And you think about that 633 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 8: draft class. The draft class that last year was Jayden Daniels. 634 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 8: This year, everyone's talking about Drake May Both those guys 635 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 8: are outstanding. But bo Nicks he's right there. He's right 636 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 8: there both last year and this year. And some people 637 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 8: will like, oh, he's streaky. Yeah, guess what when he's 638 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 8: when he's on fire, he's on fire. Similar I don't 639 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 8: want to say it, but similar to Drew Brees and 640 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 8: a little bit unstoppable. Like the defense. I don't know 641 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 8: what you do differently, And this this tandem with Sean 642 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 8: Payton like it's it's are they a super Bowl contender? Yeah? 643 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 8: If they can come out of their division, if they 644 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 8: could win that division, they can win the super Bowl. 645 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 8: That's a great division. So I'm a believer in bo Nicks. 646 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 8: I don't know how you can't be. 647 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's funny. 648 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm watching Green Bay last night and I'm watching Denver 649 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: yesterday and they just these coaches Lafleura and Peyton have 650 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: a way and I don't. And I'm going to ask 651 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: you this that whenever they need a clever play, I'm 652 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: always amazed when Andy Reid gets Sky Moore not only 653 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: a touchdown of the Super Bowl, he's opened by twenty 654 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: yards at the nine yard line. 655 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 3: You're like, how the hell do you do? That, how 656 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 3: do you fool everybody? 657 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: How many times did you with like a Mike holmbrin, 658 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: how many times did you go into game? How many 659 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: plays did you have that were like, okay, we need 660 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: a touchdown? 661 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 2: How many do you go into a game? 662 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: Because I swear to God, these offensive coaches, the best 663 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: guys just have a way of dialing up a play 664 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 1: and it's not just open, it's easily open in this 665 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: tiny congested space. 666 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, like listen, I might be like bursting your bubble 667 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 8: here a little bit. But like sometimes you'll put a 668 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 8: play in for a team. Let's just say you're Sean 669 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 8: Payton and the Broncos. You put a play in for 670 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 8: the Raiders and you'd ended up not calling it, but like, man, 671 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 8: that would have been of a great, great play, And 672 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 8: you keep practicing it for like a week, two weeks, 673 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 8: three weeks, four weeks, and now you're going to use 674 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 8: it against the next opponent like five weeks later, and 675 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 8: it works on them, and they're like, oh, they schemed 676 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 8: up this defense, and it's like, you know, the funny 677 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 8: thing is the name of that play is Raider because 678 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 8: we put it against it for the Raiders like five 679 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 8: weeks ago. We've just been practicing for so long. We 680 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 8: finally got the stupid thing called that call sheets so 681 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 8: stinking big, you can't you know, sometimes you just don't 682 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 8: get to all of them, and so like, yeah, it's 683 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 8: like sometimes like oh, we schemed them up, Like we 684 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 8: didn't even put it in for this team. You know, 685 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 8: I think the Philly Special might have even been that 686 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 8: kind of a play. The Eagles that put it in 687 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 8: way earlier in the season. So last game the season's 688 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 8: the super Bowl, and Nick Foles says to Doug Peterson, 689 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 8: be like, hey, you want to run Philly Special? Like 690 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 8: I've been practicing this thing all year, Like, let's just 691 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 8: go ahead and run it. So that happens. I see 692 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 8: plays happen all the time, and I'm like, I doubt 693 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 8: they put that in for this team. 694 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 3: Well you did burst my bubble. 695 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: But it's great information, and it's anytime I see that, 696 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, what a brilliant coach. And I'm like, yeah, 697 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: it's just like in the dust bin in the back 698 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: room and you pull it out because you need. 699 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 3: It, you know, Yeah, exactly, all right, great stuff. 700 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: Matt hassell back on a Monday, Thanks Bud, all right, 701 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: see you Yeah, that's such good information because Lafleur had 702 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: one of those last night against the Steelers, and I'm like, man, 703 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: that guy's a genius. You may have he may have 704 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: had that thing for the Lions in the opener and 705 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: he didn't get to it. And boy Sean Payton and 706 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: Andy Reid, they just you get into these fourth and 707 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: ones or a two point conversion, it's like, yeah, it's 708 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: gonna work. It's gonna work. And I love the fact 709 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: that he likes Tyler Huntley too. I'm watching the Ravens. 710 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, you've never seen Tyler Huntley play. You're like, oh, 711 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: I can build around that guy.