1 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Podcast where we drill Good afternoon, It's our number two, 2 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: the Sean Handy Program. Eric Eggers and Peter Schwitzer filling 3 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: in for Shan. We're with the Government Accountability Institute and 4 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: the co host of the Drill Down podcast where we 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: drill down and expose chronism and corruption of the federal government. 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: We have an incredible guest today, Congressman Mike Garcia. He's 7 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: the co chair of the China Task Force. He's been, 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: along with Peter Schweitzer, helping to expose the true threat 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: that China poses. Congressman Garcia, We're so excited to have 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: you on. How are you doing? Yeah, thanks for having me. So, 11 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: China is an interesting topic. You are very much engaged 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: on it. I certainly think it's important. I've written about it. 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: Eric and I have both done work on it. You're 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: the co chair of the China Task Force. Tell us 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: why China is so important to you. I mean not 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: to be cynical, but most people when they look at 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: their congressman are elected official, they look at committee assignments, 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: or they look at issues that they're passionate about and 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: they think, okay, well, this has something to do with 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: getting something for his constituents, or this has something to 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: do with helping out certain donors. China is certainly not 22 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: one of those subjects. So why are you so passionate 23 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: about it? And why is it so important? Yeah, I 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: think the reason is is because the average American is 25 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: not treating China as the threat that it is. It 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,919 Speaker 1: truly is an existential threat, and whether whether we recognize 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: it or not, we're already at war with China, and 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: so far, at least in the last call at ten years, 29 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: it's been a very lopsided war, and it's one where 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: we as Americans are the primary victims. And so we 31 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: do need to pay more attention to this. And as 32 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: a legislator and as someone who's not only served in 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: the military but now in the halls of Congress and 34 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: have taken an oath since the age of eighteen to 35 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: support and defend the Constitution and the security and defense 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: of our beautiful nation, you can't, you know, only focus 37 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: on all of the other committees and jobs that we 38 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: have while the existential threat that that eight hundred pound 39 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: guerrilla in the room is frankly not being dealt with 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 1: and in many ways is being ignored by by many 41 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: of the bureaucrats and elected officials. So this is something 42 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: that I've taken on. You know, Mike Gallagher will be 43 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: the new chair of the China Task Force, will be 44 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: leading our efforts and what we're doing in this China 45 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: Task worse in the House is very important. This is 46 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: the strategy, but also in more importantly the tactics and 47 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: the legislative measures that we can take to hopefully start 48 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: bolstering the defense against China. Well, let's talk tactics and 49 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: let's talk threat. Because you said it's a war, right 50 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: and you know, and you've served in the military, You've 51 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: flown combat missions in war, so you certainly don't use 52 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: that term lightly. What is it about China that you 53 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: think presents the most grave threat? And then what's one 54 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: thing you think your China Task Force might be able 55 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: to do that can offer the most protection from that threat. Yeah, 56 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: it's so multifaceted, Eric, it's hard to say there's one 57 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: that is the most But I think the one that's 58 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: manifesting itself right now the most clear and present danger, 59 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: if you will, is this fentanyl crisis coming through our 60 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: southern border. Two years ago, I would have said it 61 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: was COVID, you know, a virus that was actually developed 62 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: in a Buhan institute in China released. We're getting now 63 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: information from the intelligence communities and various sources that this 64 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: virus was indeed being developed as a biological weapon. They 65 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: may not have released it on purpose, but it ultimately 66 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: did get released and caused the death of millions of people, 67 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: to include millions of Americans nation are globally. And so 68 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: now we're seeing the second wave of death come in 69 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: the form of the fentanyl crisis. It's a it's a 70 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: byproduct of our open southern borders, obviously, which is a 71 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: direct result of this administration's policies on the southern border, 72 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: but the fundamental building blocks and the source material for 73 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: fentinyl is coming out of China. And so right now 74 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: we are literally realizing a scenario where we are losing 75 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: what one hundred thousand, one hundred and fifty thousand Americans 76 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: every year due to fetnyl overdoses. This is about a 77 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: twelve hundred percent increase versus maybe what three or four 78 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: years ago. So this is not trivial. This is leading 79 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: to the depths of our kids. It's it's not overdose. 80 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: These are poisonings, and it's you know the source of 81 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: these poisons come from China through our southern border. But 82 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: that's that's one facet. The other facets are you know, 83 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 1: as a country, we're losing roughly four to six hundred 84 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: billion dollars a year and intellectual property theft. As a country, 85 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: we are seeing the Chinese Communist Party and it's sort 86 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: of proxies come over to buy our farmland, to invest 87 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: in our businesses, to partner with our our businesses in 88 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: mainland China, only to steal our our property. What we 89 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: reference as rob replicate and replace, where where a joint 90 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: venture with a Chinese affiliate in mainland China will effectively 91 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: partner with an American country, get fifty one percent control, 92 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: promise access to you know, this massive market in China, 93 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,239 Speaker 1: and then slowly bleed them to death by by robbing 94 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: their intellectual property, their blueprints, their technology, replicating it with 95 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: a new widget that's at a lower cost, and then 96 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: replacing them in that same market that they promise the 97 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: American industry partners. So this is this is happening real 98 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: time again right in front of us. And then obviously 99 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: the other major facet of this war if you will, 100 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: is the fact that we're already so far behind in 101 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: several domains. We used to refer to Russia and China 102 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: as near peer threats, and I'm not so worried about Russia. 103 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: Russia is something that we can control. And I think 104 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: even you know, the Ukrainians are demonstrating just how weak 105 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: Russian military forces are. But we should not be considering 106 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: China to be a near peer threat anymore. They are, 107 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: in fact a peer threat, and in some domains they 108 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: are outpacing us. And in these domains, this weakness that 109 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: we have is a you know, potentially going to change 110 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: the outcome of any kinetic word that we had with them. Well, Congressman, 111 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: I'm certainly not a China expert, and my interest in 112 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: this really is on the lack of a response in Washington. 113 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: I mean, this is what got me excited in writing 114 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: the book Red Handed, and because I think you're right. 115 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much blatant evidence that China is 116 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: a bad actor. They're competing with us, they want to 117 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: surpass us. You've got fentanyl, you've got COVID, you've got 118 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: the intellectual property they if you talk about, and yet 119 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: no real action in official Washington. I mean, COVID happened, 120 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: started happening in early twenty We have not had, to 121 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: my understanding, a single hearing in the House of Representatives 122 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: on the origins of this virus that has killed more 123 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: than a million people. There's really been nothing the last 124 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 1: few years on fentanyl in China's role in fentanyl. Why 125 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: do you what do you see among your colleagues. I mean, 126 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: certainly I wrote about those that seem to be for 127 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: sale or at least for rent by Beijing, But certainly 128 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: there's got to be other explanations too. Are people just afraid? 129 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: Do they not understand it? Why is there so little 130 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: in action on Capitol Hill and in Washington in general. Well, 131 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a little bit of all 132 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 1: of those reasons. And thank you for writing that book. 133 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: What you what you stayed in the book is a 134 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: you know, a nomenclature right now use which is small 135 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: words and big help when you're when you're tweeting something 136 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: that looks like, hey, you're you're going to be tough 137 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: on China, but in the same breath, over a span 138 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: of three years, in the wake of COVID not having 139 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: a single hearing on COVID the origins of it or 140 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: the accountability of China on COVID. That is that is 141 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: big help followed by very small words on social media. 142 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: It's what I also call, you know, uh, big carrots 143 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: and little sticks. And the bottom line is is that 144 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: the politicians are either in bed and enabling China in 145 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: some fashion. They either have some business connection or there's 146 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: something in their district that they feel they need to 147 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: protect relative to the Chinese businesses or CCP businesses, or 148 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: they don't believe that the China problem is as big 149 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: as a problem as it is an actuality, or they 150 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: just don't care, right, And so the whole focus now 151 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: needs to be to get everyone to care, to get 152 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,679 Speaker 1: everyone to understand and believe that it is a problem, 153 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: and to root out the people that are in fact 154 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: in bed with these folks. And you know, anyone that 155 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: comes up to me and says, Mike, because it really 156 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: is bad, I do encourage them to read Red Handed, 157 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: because you outline very explicitly the links of not only 158 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: the President but also several members of Congress, business leaders 159 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: back to China. And so what can we do well? 160 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: We need to be more aggressive obviously, but I personally 161 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: think we need to be pulling the same levers that 162 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: we pulled against Russia in the wake of their invasion 163 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: of Ukraine and leading up to that invasion of Ukraine, 164 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: I think we need to be pulling many of the 165 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: same levers that we pulled against Russia instead against now China. 166 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: And you ask if it is their substantiation for that 167 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: is their substantiation for meaningful boycott, divestment and sanctions packages 168 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: and would I would say there certainly is, given the 169 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: amount of death and havoc that they've imparted, the intellectual 170 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: property theft, the incursions against Taiwan. So I think Congress 171 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: and the executive branch need to bring forwards meaningful boycott, 172 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: divestment and sanctioned packages against China and the CCP. I 173 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: think we need to figure out how to disentangle ourselves 174 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: from a corporate level and make it so that companies 175 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: are slowing down or or if they if need, be 176 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: being prevented from investing in mainland China. In order to 177 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: protect our interests, we need to actually control items a 178 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: little bit and update the export lists so that there 179 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: is a blacklist, the you know, blacklist of companies should 180 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: should be roughly six thousand entities right now, and last 181 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: time I check, we only had about fifty nine businesses 182 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: that were on this blacklist relative to China, and we 183 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: need to stop investing in the Chinese marketplace. A lot 184 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: of our pensions, some of the government programs, the government 185 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: funded pension programs, are actually still investing in the Chinese 186 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: stock market in Chinese companies, which which by definition flow 187 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: directly to the CCP government. And so there's a whole 188 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: layer of things that we could be doing. And what's 189 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: kind of cool about this China Task Forces. We've actually 190 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: written a book. It's roughly, you know, eighty pages, and 191 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: for every facet of this fight, whether it's commerce, whether 192 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: it's defense, cybersecurity, artificial intelligence, we have several pages of 193 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: recommendations that could not only Congress, but also the executive 194 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: branch should be implementing to protect ourselves. So, you know, 195 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: under Trump, we had the strategy, we had a president 196 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: that recognized China as a threat, but we didn't have 197 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: the tactics below that. We didn't have the legislative levers, 198 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: we didn't have the exactly what are we going to 199 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: do in response to it? Now? We have the tactics, 200 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: and we have this this this very exhaustive and comprehensive 201 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: binder of recommendations, but we don't have a president that 202 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: that understands the strategy relative to China or flat out 203 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: in my opinion, doesn't want to deal with China. So 204 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: you do need the executive branch to participate in this, 205 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: and you do need the leadership in the House as 206 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: well as the Senate to recognize a threat. 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I think 242 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: the Russia comparison, Congressman's really good because, as you noted, 243 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: when they became a bad acting more publicly no problems, 244 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: we put in sanctions, we pulled some of the levers, 245 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: as you noted, is the reason why we're hesitant to 246 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: do that against China. I guess I'll just ask you clearly, 247 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: is it more because of china strategy of elite captures, 248 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: it more about the personal financial relationships in terms of 249 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: America's elite with China, or do you think it's more 250 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: that corporate entanglement that you reference previously. Well, I think 251 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: it's both. Eric. I think you know you can't undervalue 252 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: or underestimate the implications of completely disentangling from a corporate 253 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: perspective or from just an enabling perspective. You got to 254 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: remember that China, you know, depending on the quarter, owns 255 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: anywhere from twenty five percent to a third of our 256 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: nation's debt. So these the implications of what we're talking 257 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: about are here are very seriousness. And obviously, if it's 258 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: done overnight, you could run the risk of completely imploding 259 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: our own economy. But if we start shaping the paradigms 260 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: and we start making sure that we're weaning ourselves off 261 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: of this supply chain dependency that we have on China, 262 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: I think it's all of the above, and I think it's, 263 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, something that is going to take some time, 264 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: but we've got to start now, We've got and it's 265 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: got to start in the boardrooms of corporations as well, 266 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: not just in the halls of Congress. I think we 267 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: also need to more forcefully speak to the fact that 268 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: this is an oppressive, brutal regime and we need to 269 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: start making a stark difference between the Chinese people who 270 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: frankly are the biggest victims of this government, of this regime, 271 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: and the government, and let that competition of ideas take 272 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: full fruit. Because if that occurs, that's a competition I 273 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: think we win. Yeah, no, absolutely, and no one knows 274 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: just how you know, toxic and frankly tyrannical and brutal. 275 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: This CCP government is than the Chinese citizens themselves, right, 276 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: They just we're protesting a couple of weeks ago with 277 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: the COVID lockdowns. They're still in place, and all of 278 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: a sudden, those those folks just disappeared. You're not hearing 279 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: about it in the news anymore. We've got the weaker genocide, 280 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: which is probably the worst genocide since World War Two 281 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: and the Holocaust. And again, these are these are Chinese 282 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: citizens literally dying at the hands of their own government. 283 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: So yes, so I think that's an important distinction. We're 284 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: not talking about tens of thousands of bureaucrats like the 285 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: United States you know that runs the CCP. We're talking 286 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: about maybe a few dozen at most. And so these 287 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: are the folks we need to be targeting with sanctions 288 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: and economic boycott, divestment sanctions packages. And I'll also say this, right, 289 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: competing means more than just developing on our end. It 290 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: means treating them the way they're treating us. And I'm 291 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: actually a supporter of reciprocal trade agreements where if a 292 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: Chinese company wants to come to the United States and 293 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: do business here, that's fine, But we get to do 294 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: to them what they do to us. We get to 295 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: make all of the decision, We get the intellectual property 296 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: associated with any business of venture, We get the final 297 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: say and how things are going to be uh you know, 298 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: metered out funded, and what technologies are going to be 299 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: developed and employed, and in the end, we own it all, 300 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: not the Chinese business or the Chinese government. When we 301 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: do the same to them that they do to us, 302 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: you'll start seeing different behavior patterns, and you'll start seeing 303 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: us actually surpass them and not just trying to compete. 304 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: But it does require the president. You know this, This 305 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: president as well as all of his cabinet have basically said, hey, 306 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: we welcome competition, and that's okay, we should welcome competition, 307 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: but but let's not plan to lose, and let's make 308 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: sure that we're putting in all of the resources and 309 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: strategies and tactics below those resources to make sure that 310 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: we are actually prevailing and being in a position of 311 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: strength and not weakness. Comes and thank you so much 312 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: not only for your service to our country, but for 313 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: continue to expose the very threat that China poses. That's 314 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: a Congressman Mike Garcia here on the Sean Handy program. 315 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: If you'd like to talk to us, please give us 316 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: a call us eight hundred and nine four one seven 317 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: three two six. He's Peter Schweitzer. I'm Eric Agis. Will 318 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: be back with your phone calls and more in just 319 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: a minute. All right, Are you tired of overpaying woke 320 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: wireless companies? How about this? 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I could sit down with him at 344 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: a bar and have a beer and talk for hours. 345 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: He's so knowledgeable. He's former fighter pilots, so I'm sure 346 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: he's got great stories. But what really struck me about 347 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: that conversation is these challenges that we're facing where China 348 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: is playing a central role in it, and nobody in 349 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: Washington seems to care. I mean, we touched on it, 350 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: but fentanyl is a prime example of this. The to 351 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: put it in crew terms, the body count of what 352 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: America is facing is enormous, and yet the White House 353 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: and the Biden administration has a monkey pox task force. 354 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: They don't have a Fentanyl Task Force. Even then the 355 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: numbers are so much higher. They also don't have a 356 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: COVID task force, right, as you'd like to point out. 357 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: And so, okay, fentanyl COVID, what do they have in common. 358 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: They both come from a place in the East, and 359 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: it's a place that maybe has business entanglements with a 360 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: number of high level ranking officials in this country and 361 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: their family members. I was really impressed with when we 362 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: asked him, what's one specific threat or what's the worst 363 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: threat do you think COVID or China poses? And at 364 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: first he started to trying to be very general about it. 365 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: It's kind of like whatever threat gets me reelected, you know, 366 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: But that wasn't it. He said fentanyl very clearly. And 367 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: you mentioned the body count. Talk about the frame of 368 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: reference for you want to think about what Fentnyl does 369 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: to American families every year. It's literally on scale of 370 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: some of the greatest disasters in American military history. Yeah, exactly. 371 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: I mean, so take for example, the body count that 372 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: we have in a single year from fentnyl that is 373 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: more than the casualty count of the Hiroshima bombing in 374 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: World War Two. So it's the equivalent of one Hiroshima 375 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: bomb being dropped on America every year, and Washington, DC 376 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: says we have nothing to do about it. Another way 377 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: to look at it is in terms of if this 378 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: is a war, more people die from fentnyl every year 379 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: than the casualties that we suffered in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, 380 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: and Iraq combined. And I think one of the things 381 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: that puzzles people if they haven't been touched by fentnyl personally, 382 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: they haven't experienced it. People often thinks it's kind of 383 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: like heroin or other drugs where people overdose. It's really 384 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: very different. A lot of the people that are dying 385 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: of fentanyl overdoses are so called one and dones. These 386 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: are people that are you know, buying off the street 387 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: a xanax or an adderall or some pill that they're 388 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: taking because they're trying to do better on their college exam, 389 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: and unbeknownst to them that pill is actually laced with fentanyl, 390 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: so they don't even know that they're taking fentanyl. And 391 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: these are the sort of people that are getting caught 392 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: up in the death counts. That is so dramatic, and 393 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: yet again no discussion about this in official Washington any 394 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: meaningful way. Congressman Garcia referred to it as a poisoning, 395 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: but I think you would use a different term. Yeah, 396 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: I think it's poisoning. I think it's also a chemical weapon. 397 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: If you look at and we've been doing a lot 398 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: of research about this at the Government Accountability Institute, will 399 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: be reporting on more of this. But it's not just 400 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: that China is producing the so called precursor chemicals for fentanyl. 401 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: They are much more deeply involved in this than people image. 402 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: If you look at just money laundering, these are the 403 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: drug cartels in Mexico that are getting the precursor chemicals. 404 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: They're being shipped to Mexico. Then they are distributing the drugs. 405 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: Who are now the chief money launderers for these drug cartels, 406 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: the Cineloa Cartel, etc. It's Chinese nationals who are doing 407 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: it through Chinese state owned banks, which is enormously difficult 408 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: because Chinese banks have very tight controls on money. So 409 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: this is far deeper than just precursors. This is a 410 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: huge problem and nobody wants to talk about it in DC. 411 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: Chinese banks are not exactly regulated by the SEC. They 412 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: don't have the same level transparency requirements. And I think 413 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: as the more we get into the Fentnyl crisis, the 414 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: fentinel attack on this country, to use some of the 415 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: military terms that Congressman Garcia and you have used, then 416 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: I think that maybe we can help bring into more 417 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: stark relief. Just how big a threat is. I have 418 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: to say you mentioned the Government Accountability Institute where we 419 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: both work. We'll be looking into both the Fentyl crist 420 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: this and things with the Mexican cartels. I prefer we 421 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: not do that on a day I'm in the office. 422 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 1: Can we can? I request that those guys are not 423 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: Teddy Bears. Yeah. The next book that I do in 424 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: the drug cartels, I'm going to use a pseudonym, Eric 425 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: Eggers by Eric Egers. Well, I can tell you if 426 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: you use it, your book sales will plummet, which actually 427 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: would be great for all of our personal safety. So 428 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: it's Peter Schweiz and Eric Eggers. We're in for Sean Hannity. 429 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: We are talking about the Fennel crisis. We're talking about China. 430 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: Peter Schweitzer is the New York Times the number one 431 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: best selling author. His book Red Handed literally destroyed all 432 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: sales records, and I think your publisher at the time said, 433 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: it's not just because the reporting is good. There's a 434 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: movement of foot. The elite cultural class in Washington, DC 435 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: might not be ready to admit it, but everybody else 436 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: in the country is. I think that's why your book 437 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: was so successful. As they see jobs being shipped off overseas, 438 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: they've had loved ones be lost to fedel There's a 439 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: reason why there's even an industry in this country for 440 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: drug testing kits. Like that's how pervasive this thread is. 441 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: That you have to buy kits now to test your 442 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: dug drugs to make sure that they don't have fentyl 443 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: in them. That's the new measure ahead of it. So 444 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: if that's an industry that's a product that the free 445 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: market bore, Yeah, then that tells you how big the 446 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: threat is. That's right, that's right. And in another interesting 447 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: thing to look at from the standpoint of fentyls, we 448 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: did have We've had this climb really beginning in the 449 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: abomb administration in twenty fourteen and increasing numbers of people 450 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: dying from fentyl overdoses. But we had a drop. You know, 451 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: when we had that drop, we had that drop during 452 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 1: COVID during COVID and what happened is and there's actually 453 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: law enforcement data on this because of the two masks. No, 454 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: unfortunately it was not the two masks. It's actually because 455 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: the supply lines. Remember how the ships were halted in 456 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: the ocean, they were off the coast of Long Beach. 457 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: China was shut down. We actually had a drop in 458 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: fentanyl overdoses because the precursor chemicals were not coming from 459 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: China making it to Mexico because everything was shut down. 460 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: So there is a tactic that could save lots of 461 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: American lives, and that would be to shut down this 462 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: activity from what China's doing and hold them into account. 463 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: What does the fact that we talked about this in 464 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: the open of the show, that we're about to see 465 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: some of the pandemic air related immigration policies, ones that 466 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: would allow us to expel Mexicans and presumably anything they're 467 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: coming into the country with back across the border. Do 468 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: you feel like that's a role to play. And with 469 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: the repeal of that provision, do you think that's going 470 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: to exacerbate the fentyl problem. Yeah, it's a huge problem 471 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: because the preferred choice for getting fentol into the United 472 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 1: States now is across the Mexican border. Six or seven 473 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: years ago, the choice that they preferred was they would 474 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: just ship it in the mail to drug dealers in 475 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: the United States, and then the US Postal Service got 476 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: more sophisticated about intercepting those packages, so they said, well, 477 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: we'll just make our deals with the Mexican cartels and 478 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: we'll bring them up through Mexico, which is that what 479 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: they've started to do. So they're bringing it across the border. Now, 480 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: if we seal the border, that's going to be enormously helpful, 481 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: but that's not going to solve the problem. They'll find 482 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: other ways to get it into the country. What we 483 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: have to do er because we have to go to 484 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: the source, which is China, and deal with it there. 485 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: What do you think it would take? And I think 486 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: Congressman Garcia spoke to this a little bit, but it 487 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: just for somebody like me who's not a China expert, 488 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: it seems. But based on what I've read and the 489 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: reporting that we've done the Government Accountability Institute, the reporting 490 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: that we've done on our Drill Down podcast, which you 491 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: can again listen to at the drilldown dot com. What 492 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: I find concerning is that China seems to have so 493 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: successfully leveraged the permanent political class, right. I mean, they 494 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: have business deals with Hunter Biden, they have business deals 495 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: with the Pelosi family, They've got business deals. I mean 496 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: thirty one million dollars with the deals have gone to 497 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: the Biden family because with connections to the Chinese military. 498 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: So if you're asking me, do I think the Biden 499 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: administration is going to change up its policy towards China, No, 500 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: I can answer that right now. That's a no for me. Yeah, 501 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: you're right, and that's why we have to expose this, 502 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: and that's why they are so desperate for this story 503 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: to go away. I mean, you see what's sort of 504 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: been going on with the Twitter files that have been released, 505 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: how they have tried to kill the Hunter Biden's story. 506 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: And the problem is, in my mind, you can't kill 507 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: the truth. You cannot kill the truth. That's why we 508 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: need to keep talking about and voicing about it. I 509 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: went on Shawn's radio show and TV show in twenty 510 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: eighteen in April of twenty eighteen and first talked about 511 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: the fact that the Bidens were getting bookoo de Niro. 512 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: We were talking about Mexico, right book de Niro, believe 513 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: it's a pace. You're ruining your credibility on a national 514 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: audience right now. Everybody was with you. Was a French word, right, 515 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: but they were getting major money from China, and nobody 516 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: wanted to believe it. The Bidens pretended it wasn't true. 517 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: So we've now reached the points four years later where 518 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: essentially we're now having this national conversation. Of course, it's 519 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: two years after we held a national election when it 520 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: should have been discussed, but we're finally now having this conversation. 521 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: And the exciting thing is we're going to actually start 522 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: having congressional hearings. Well, let me ask you this, because 523 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: we literally led this program this morning or earlier in 524 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: the first hour with questions of hey, is not American 525 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: trust in the government at an all time low, while 526 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: at the same time, ironically and unfortunately, the government's attempting 527 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: to exert more influence on our lives as ever before. Yeah, 528 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: so why then, Peter Schweitzer, the guy who says Americans 529 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: don't trust the government, should we now put our trust 530 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: in a congressional hearing or a China task force? Or 531 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: anything else. Well, you're right, I know, to quote Ronald Reagan, 532 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: we should trust but verify, meaning we should hope that 533 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: our members of Congress are going to do the right thing. 534 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: They're going to hold these hearings and they're going to 535 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: lead this to the logical conclusion to where we actually 536 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: get the information put out there. I don't know if 537 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: they're going to be criminal charges filed. I don't know 538 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: if the statute of limitations have passed. But what I 539 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: do know is the American people need to know who 540 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: made the Biden's rich. You think about all the news 541 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: stories out there, Eric, We've done some of them. The 542 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: news media does them all the time about a member 543 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: of Congress or a presidential candidate who gets donations. You 544 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: have the donations from the crypto company. Now that's being 545 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: called into question FTX, Yeah, FTX. And noverybody's concerned about 546 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: the influence that this is going to have on elected officials, 547 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: which is real. Well, gee, I'm going to go out 548 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: on a limb and say, thirty one million dollars to 549 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: the Biden family is going to have an influence, and 550 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: especially when that influence is a foreign government that uses 551 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: this tactic to manipulate and control people. They are absolutely 552 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: going to use and are using this leverage on the 553 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: Biden's right now, and that's one of the reasons Joe 554 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: Biden is not taking a hard line towards China. That 555 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: exact point is, when you were referenced in today's Twitter 556 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: files drop, Michael Shellenberger released internal documents and he exposed 557 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: or he played an interview you gave him in which 558 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: you said, the thing that's most troubling about Hunter Biden 559 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: is the business relationships he has with China, and those 560 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: are among the business relationships that ultimately that's why Hunter 561 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: Biden's laptop matters. Right. Nobody's into it for a picture, 562 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: nobody's into it for a weapon. But fact that the 563 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: laptop that was actively censored by Twitter and by other 564 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: social media entities could have contained information about just how 565 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: leveraged and how many zeros go into that leverage of 566 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden and the Biden family. That's why you think 567 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: it matters. Yeah, that's exactly right. The laptop matters. What 568 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: also matters is the information that the Senate released before 569 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election, which, by the way, the news 570 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: media didn't cover either. You had the Senate Oversight Committee 571 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: released what are called suspicious activity reports or stars that 572 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: the Treasury Department flagged. This is our Treasury Department flagging 573 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: suspect or troubling. You know, financial transactions where overseas entities 574 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: are giving money to American political families. The bidens between 575 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's brother and his son Hunter have more than 576 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty suspicious activity reports. That's a problem. 577 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: He's Peter Schweitzer. He is the New York Times number 578 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: one best selling author. He's an expert on the China problem. 579 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: Just look at his book sales. He's all so an 580 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: expert on the Hunter Biden problem. We're gonna talk about 581 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: that next and the role that social media has played 582 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: in covering it up, and whether it's fair to consider 583 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: the activity that's Twitter, Facebook and other social media played 584 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: as a campaign contribution violation. He's gonna write americacre as. 585 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: We are the co host of the Drilldown podcast. You 586 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: can hear that podcast at the drilldown dot com. We're 587 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: in for Sean Hannity. You'd like to talk to us, 588 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: give us a call. 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Now, 612 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: Peter Schweizer and Ericagers, who are filling in for Sean Hannity, Linda, 613 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: you had a point you wanted to make on this 614 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: fentyl issue. I do. The first point I want to 615 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: make is that you co hosting with Eric is like 616 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: a yoga instructor hosting the show compared to then Sean 617 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: Hannah every day, where I feel like I'm gonna have 618 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: a heart attack at any given moments. So thank you 619 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: for the calm way that you bring us in and 620 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: out of this. But I was thinking about this. You know, 621 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: we've been talking a lot about this, even Sean and I. 622 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: And you know, if you combine all of the automobile 623 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: desks and the gun dests together, they're far, far less 624 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: than the amount of people that are dying from fetanyl. 625 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: So like, for example, like AOC was out this weekend 626 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: on Instagram, you know, drop him wisdom. That's what she does. 627 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: She just drops these bombs and knowledge, and she's like, 628 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, we need to get guns out of the 629 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: stores because you know, then the gun desk, we get 630 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: the guns out of the murders, and then we won't 631 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: have any more gun desks. And this guy replied, and 632 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: he goes, so like fetanyl, we'll get that out of 633 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: the stores, because that's where you get fetanyl too, And 634 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: I just, I mean, it's just these people are so 635 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: completely they're complicit because they don't want to deal with 636 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: with the core issues like China, like the border, like 637 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: the cartels, like Mexico. Right to your point, So well done. 638 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: It's a great point. And I think not only did 639 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: you help round out the point about fetnyl, but you 640 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: actually helped make this radio program his doric because that 641 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: is the first time in national broadcasting history and my 642 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: life that I've ever been compared to a yoga instructor. 643 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: And so don't start wearing yoga. To be clear, I 644 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: think I'm talking more about Peter. You know, you're more 645 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: like the peloton. You know, I don't know what press 646 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: it for females. Yeah, totally get it, you know, definitely 647 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: not you know, you're a loverable things and I will 648 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: fight that to the end of my days. Well, I 649 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: think you're quite right on the on the federal issue. 650 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a huge problem. And you think 651 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: about in our society all the people that if they 652 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: fail to act when they have information. If you're a 653 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: school teacher and you know that a student is being 654 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: physically abused and you fail to report it, if you're 655 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: a psychologist, if you are a priest, there are all 656 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: kinds of statutes that indicate if you fail to act 657 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: when you know crimes are happening, you can be held 658 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: legally accountable. Why does that not apply to our public officials? 659 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: Why is there not a force to report standard for 660 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: elected officials when it comes to these problems. They just 661 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: get away with ignoring these massive problems we face. It's 662 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: an abdication of responsibility on our public officials and it's 663 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: a national crisis. And if you want to hear more 664 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: about that, you can look at the reporting that we 665 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: do at the drill Down dot com. It's Eric Eggers 666 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: and Peter Schweitzer in for Sean Hannity. We'll be right 667 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: back talking Facebook and how they put their thumbs on 668 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:26,919 Speaker 1: elections next. 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