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Speaker 1: us a little bit later on. We'll talk about since

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Speaker 1: the Browns out of Nowhere, recapping basketball with Baylor out,

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Speaker 1: Tennessee out, Auburn out, Michigan State out, Wisconsin out, Illinois

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Speaker 1: is out. You have Iowa State and Saint Peter's. Those

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Speaker 1: are your Cinderella's stories. Now I look at Iowa State

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Speaker 1: and I guess the amazing part is, how did that

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Speaker 1: program go two and twenty two last year, didn't win

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Speaker 1: a conference game, and here they are on the Sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Saint Peter's. I think it's Saint Peter's was located in

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Speaker 1: at them differently, they'd be cuter. Let's put it that way.

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Speaker 1: Saint Peter's is in Jersey City, right across the river

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Speaker 1: the Sweet sixteen, and so is Iowa State. I watched

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Speaker 1: a lot of the Michigan State Duke game because I'm

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Speaker 1: watching thinking is this Coach K's last game? And not

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Speaker 1: that it became bigger than the outcome of the game,

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Speaker 1: but it's close because Michigan State going toe to toe

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Speaker 1: coach K the Dukies were holding on for dear life there.

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Speaker 1: But you know, this is a situation that's different because

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Speaker 1: we don't know when coach K's career is over. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if John wouldn't made it official that he

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Speaker 1: was coaching his last games when he was at UCLA

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Speaker 1: when they won the national title. He retired after winning

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Speaker 1: that national title in nineteen seventy five. But I don't remember.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I was old enough to remember or that,

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Speaker 1: Here is Mike Shuzhevsky after the win yesterday against Michigan State.

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Speaker 1: I'm incredibly proud of my guys. This was a You

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Speaker 1: guys were terrific, man. I'm so I'm really proud to

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Speaker 1: be your coach. Yeah, that had nothing new were coaching

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Speaker 1: the Sweet six thing, so you can ask them questions.

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Speaker 1: He's emotional in a win. Here's Tom Azo, Michigan State

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Speaker 1: head coach. An average team without a lot of heart

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Speaker 1: So if you're Tom Izzo, it's like, all right, they

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Speaker 1: But you know, if it's interesting, you know that the

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Speaker 1: think that the regular season doesn't mean much to us.

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Speaker 1: We don't follow the names as closely as we once did.

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Speaker 1: Players are not staying around more than you know, one

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Speaker 1: Tom Is at Michigan State. There are certain coaches where

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Speaker 1: not make stupid mistakes? And that's what Duke was able

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Speaker 1: just want to survive and you're gonna every It feels

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Speaker 1: like every tournament, every team who wins a national title,

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen this year with the eventual national

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Speaker 1: champ all Right, Seetan, what kind of poll question do

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Speaker 1: the DP show. Did North Carolina's Brady Manic deserve to

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Speaker 1: be tossed from the game against Bill Baylor? Okay, I'd

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Speaker 1: say no. I think that they let them play. You know,

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Speaker 1: But I think it was a physically called game, and

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Speaker 1: It's aggressive, but these guys are six nine, six ten,

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Speaker 1: down low and elbowed him. I think your hands are up,

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Speaker 1: be pretty egregious you're gonna toss somebody from a game.

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Speaker 1: But if it was a five five guy, I would

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Speaker 1: elbow him all the time in the face. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: you're taught to box out with your arms up, not down.

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Speaker 1: So his arms were just up and therefore his elbow

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Speaker 1: do a reenactment here, Okay, Are you gonna elbow me

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Speaker 1: gonna determine the well, because I don't think you should

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Speaker 1: the North Carolina player saying I shouldn't have been tossed

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Speaker 1: for Oh sorry, see yes. Oh by the way, pie

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Speaker 1: to the face day, Marvin. Yeah, mister Yukon Husky takes

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Speaker 1: Soul like oh yeah, yes, yes, Todd. Can you distinguish

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Speaker 1: oh my god, they had a twenty five point lead

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Speaker 1: TCU Arizona. I got Arizona win at all. But you

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Speaker 1: know what, TC, hold your head high. You got a

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Speaker 1: gripe because I would have called a foul there at

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Speaker 1: would have called a foul on Arizona. Yeah. See, it's

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Speaker 1: a real shame that they're knocked out of the tournament

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Speaker 1: I also wondered about this, and maybe I can hear

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Speaker 1: from a referee or former referee, like why do you

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Speaker 1: You get yelled at constantly and even some of the calls.

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Speaker 1: You know, there was a technical call in the Illinois

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Speaker 1: just those small and you know the proliferation of gambling.

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Speaker 1: Now everything is viewed through a different lens. But you

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Speaker 1: know understand they're not They don't get the benefit of

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Speaker 1: why do you do it? Is it a power trip?

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Speaker 1: You like being involved in the sport, great exercise, You

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Speaker 1: appearances at twenty four. I'm I'm rooting for you to

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Speaker 1: beat him next year. Yeah, yeah, me too, And maybe

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Speaker 1: I can't since he will not be there. Otherwise I

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Speaker 1: think I'm three and thirteen. I mean, you would probably

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Speaker 1: have the stat there because you're a stats guy. Yeah

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Speaker 1: you're you're three and thirteen against coach k all time.

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Speaker 1: But I was not bringing that up. I gave a

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Speaker 1: positive I told you about the eight Final Four appearances. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's not bad. I mean we got that in twenty

434
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Speaker 1: seven years. He's got twelve and forty two years. So

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm still in range of that one. But

436
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 1: he's earned everything he's gotten, you know. And and yet

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Speaker 1: I think we've we've done some incredible things here with

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Speaker 1: some to go. Dan, We're gonna We're not done yet.

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Speaker 1: The is that green shag carpeting that you have there?

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Speaker 1: It's not shag. I mean we're not in the seventies

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Speaker 1: you were in college. We're in uh you know, it's

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Speaker 1: it's very cut pile. Okay. Is it like AstroTurf? It

443
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Speaker 1: should be. You know, I'm a football fan, so maybe

444
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Speaker 1: that's a good thing. Maybe I'll change the astro turf.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get a little tougher. Are you Are you

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Speaker 1: a Lions fan? Well, I am because I'm in this state.

447
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Speaker 1: But I grew up a Packer fan. I lived ninety

448
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Speaker 1: miles from Green Bay and everybody in the up where

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Speaker 1: I'm I was a Packers fan. Did you ever meet

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Speaker 1: Bart Star or Brett Farve? I did you know? Because

451
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Speaker 1: of my buddy Mary Uchi. Bart Starr came up to

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Speaker 1: our golf outing in the up a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: He was great. And Brett Farve came once or twice,

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Speaker 1: and I got a chance to meet him too through

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Speaker 1: Mary Uchi. But those guys were great. Haven't Matt Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers yet? But maybe someday. Well he's there for maybe

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Speaker 1: another couple of years. Maybe Why don't you go to

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Speaker 1: a game? Oh, I've gone to a couple of Packer games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because you take September, October, November, and December off, so

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Speaker 1: you could go to a lot of games there. Coach,

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Speaker 1: you're so right, But I do Matt Lafleur as a

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Speaker 1: guy that spent a lot of time in the state

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Speaker 1: of Michigan's coach, so I do get over there. In fact,

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Speaker 1: talked to Matt during the playoffs, so I hopefully I'll

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Speaker 1: get over there one of his summer workouts. When is

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Speaker 1: your voice sounds? You know, it's been really good this year.

467
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Speaker 1: But I didn't get much sleep. And to the end

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Speaker 1: of Dan Patrick show, I said, I don't care if

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Speaker 1: I got up got the bed at four in the morning.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting up early. Who's got the worst coaching voice? Worst?

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Speaker 1: Called Bob Huggins. Bob's gotta have the worst voice, all right,

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Speaker 1: I tell Bobby looks the worst. You don't want to

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Speaker 1: get him angry though. I love Bobby's He's one of

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Speaker 1: the good guys in the profession. Doc Rivers has a

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Speaker 1: voice that has never changed, right that that's a coach's voice.

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Speaker 1: You know what Doc does. And uh, Doc's been a

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Speaker 1: good friend too. I coached in the Good Will Games

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Speaker 1: with him a few years ago, and he does a

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Speaker 1: great job and he's got a great voice. And he's

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Speaker 1: always tired too, because I would like to do that

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Speaker 1: for nine games. No way. Hey, great to talk to

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Speaker 1: you so always. Thanks for getting up and joining us.

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Speaker 1: And there's always next year, right, thanks Dan. We'll get

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Speaker 1: together with those Dayton Flyers sometime. Yeah. Yeah, well Dayton

485
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Speaker 1: should have been in I agree. Yeah, that was disappointing

486
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Speaker 1: after you know, a year ago where they could have

487
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Speaker 1: won it all with Obi Toppin in that team, they

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Speaker 1: might have been as good as anybody. Thank you, coach.

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Speaker 1: Great to talk to you as always. Thanks Dan, that's Tomzo.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. A couple of phone calls here. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's tough after a loss. Of course I lead with

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Speaker 1: the hey, didn't this the fifth time? Coach k is

493
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: not exactly a welcoming Matt there. Uh, let's see this

494
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Speaker 1: news in and this is this is not a surprise.

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't be if you listen to this program, because

496
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Speaker 1: I told you this probably back in October. This is

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Speaker 1: from the Athletic Zion Williamson not expected to return to

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Speaker 1: play this season, but he is making progress towards on

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Speaker 1: court work. Okay, I'll believe it when I see it,

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Speaker 1: but it is smart to shut him down. And I

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Speaker 1: thought they were going to shut him down in December.

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Speaker 1: Just announced that he's not coming back. The other story

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Speaker 1: to keep an eye on is Ben Simmons. This isn't

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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons overcoming a mental block to be able to

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Speaker 1: come back. This is the physical part of this. He's

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Speaker 1: got back issues. There's a couple of injuries. If you

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Speaker 1: have feet or a back injury, those are the ones

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Speaker 1: that are now I will say shoulder. If you're a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But you know, those are the things that stay with you.

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Speaker 1: And you know Ben Simmons, they're not sure. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure if he's going to be able to play how

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Speaker 1: much you'll be able to play. But that's a big

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Speaker 1: deal too to keep an eye on because the Nets

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Speaker 1: need him if they're going to challenge for a championship.

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Speaker 1: But Zion Williamson is not going to play the rest

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Speaker 1: of the year. Let's see Paul and Minnesota hypell what's

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Speaker 1: on your mind to day, Bud Dan, I've got the

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Speaker 1: best of the weekend and worst of the weekend all

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Speaker 1: rolled up in the same issue. All right, the best

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Speaker 1: of the weekend, Carlos Correa signing a three year deal

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Speaker 1: with my Minnesota Twins. Worst of the weekend. He can

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Speaker 1: opt out after the first year. Now I think it's

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Speaker 1: second year. I think it's two years there, Paul, thank you,

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Speaker 1: though he can opt out after the second year. As

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Speaker 1: far as guaranteed money or salary, I think he's like

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Speaker 1: fourth or fifth in baseball. And there was an interesting

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Speaker 1: stat about Carlos Correa. I thought the Yankees were going

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Speaker 1: to get him, like I always think the Yankees are

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers and it doesn't feel like the Yankees are

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Speaker 1: getting people with the regularity that we've come to expect.

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Speaker 1: I think Dave Roberts, the Dodger manager, is going to

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Speaker 1: join us later on this week. But you know, Carlos

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Speaker 1: Correa has more postseason victories than the entire Minnesota Twins

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Speaker 1: organization has. If you look at all all the playoff

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Speaker 1: wins he had in Houston. I think it's forty five,

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Speaker 1: and he has more wins than the Minnesota Twins half

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Speaker 1: as a franchise. But you know, Carlos career two years

538
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Speaker 1: that he can opt out, but some big time money there.

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Speaker 1: Let's see Nathan and san Antonio. Hey Nathan, what's on

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Speaker 1: your mind? Hey Dan? Six week two O five? All right,

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Speaker 1: just want to chime in on the US. Why do

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Speaker 1: we officiate games? I do youth and adult basketball leagues,

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Speaker 1: and the youth sports is fun. You get to teach

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Speaker 1: the kids, you get to see them grow, even build

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Speaker 1: relationships with some of the kids, some of the parents

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Speaker 1: around the UH. The weekend a youth circuit, so it's

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. It's it's a great way to

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Speaker 1: stay close to the game. I used to play, but

549
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Speaker 1: you know, can't do anymore. So it's it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. It's a benefit. Of course. You get to

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Speaker 1: make a little extra money on the weekend that helps suit.

552
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Speaker 1: And you get yelled at. Yeah, but you know, as

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Speaker 1: you get yelled at, you get to know those people,

554
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: and you know, you build those relationships over time. They

555
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: trust you, they understand you. If you get to teach

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Speaker 1: people stuff they didn't even know. Oh that's a rule

557
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: I didn't know, So you know, it's great that way. Now,

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Speaker 1: the adult leagues different deal from mind, Dan. We're in Texas.

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Speaker 1: A lot of reps that I know that do the

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Speaker 1: adult leagues. Let's just say they don't come in there

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Speaker 1: empty handed. They're prepared. They're prepared for the worst. Wait

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Speaker 1: but here it's wait they're they're packing they haven't yeah yeah, yeah,

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00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: yeah Dan, they bring a gun. The adult then these

564
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: guys are trying to live out their dreams. They think

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Speaker 1: they're going to get a contract. If you don't officiate

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Speaker 1: that game, right, yeah Dan, it gets it gets crazy.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, all right, Well thank you, Nathan. Yeah point,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't call fall on anybody sixteen game, no files

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Speaker 1: called play on? Yeah, play on, that's clean, that's clean. Wait,

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00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: but he's bleeding a die that sor right? Yeah, act

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Speaker 1: Search f SR to listen live. I think it's been

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Speaker 1: six weeks since we had Carson Palmer on. That was

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Speaker 1: during Super Bowl week. Had him during the regular season.

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Speaker 1: Always appreciated his insights, certainly at the quarterbacking position. The

578
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Speaker 1: former Heisman Trophy winner at USC Are you a former

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Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner or you're just a Heisman Trophy winner. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you get rid of the former part and

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Speaker 1: just keep the Heisman Trophy winner sounds better. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: former NFL quarterback Heisman Trophy winner. Perfect? Okay, perfect? All right. So,

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Speaker 1: of all the things that have happened since the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: what's the number one thing that stood out to you?

585
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Speaker 1: Good or bad? But I think the biggest stories Aaron

586
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Speaker 1: Rodgers went back to Green Bay on a new contract.

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Speaker 1: I mean that was the headline throughout the season obviously

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Speaker 1: last year this time and then last year this time,

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Speaker 1: all the way up through training camp before the season started.

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Speaker 1: But him back in Green Bay, still wearing the green

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Speaker 1: and yellow. I think it's the best for the NFL,

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Speaker 1: it's the best for Aaron, it's the best obviously for

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Speaker 1: the Packers and Packer fans themselves. You got the situation

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Speaker 1: with the Browns where it feels like Baker Mayfield may

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Speaker 1: have talked himself out of a job in that city

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Speaker 1: and they bring in DeShawn Watson. Let me start with

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. What kind of trade market do you think

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Speaker 1: there is for Baker Mayfield going into the last year

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Speaker 1: of his contract, coming off the injury. Well, there's there's

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Speaker 1: definitely a market for it. It's not the three or

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Speaker 1: four first round picks or two firsts and two seconds

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Speaker 1: or whatever it is that that the Cleveland Browns had

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Speaker 1: to give to the Houston Texans to get Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 1: It's definitely they're not going to get their money back

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Speaker 1: on that. But there's there's somebody out there. There's too

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Speaker 1: many teams that need a quarterback, and Baker is a

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Speaker 1: much better upgrade than a lot of the guys that

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Speaker 1: these teams have on their rosters. So there's there's a

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Speaker 1: market for him. But unfortunately, right now, you know this

610
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Speaker 1: is that time, we should be talking about Baker's next

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Speaker 1: deal with the Browns. There they're negotiating it. They're still

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Speaker 1: kind of in that honeymoon phase. They only took him

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Speaker 1: with the first pick in the draft a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago. We should be talking about that. We should

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Speaker 1: not be talking about the friction between Baker and the

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Speaker 1: Browns and this kind of constant theme that has been

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Speaker 1: going on for a couple off seasons now. But I

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Speaker 1: do think there is somebody out there that's willing to

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Speaker 1: give up something to get Baker. Okay, but if I

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Speaker 1: said to you could have Matt Ryan or Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, I'd take Because of the situation that Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: Colts are in right now. They've got a veteran team,

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Speaker 1: they're one player away from being a contender. I take

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. Yeah, I could see him going into that

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford role. He's a couple of years older than Matthew,

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Speaker 1: but I think that he's he's ready to go. The

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Speaker 1: role that Jimmy Garoppolo plays in all of this with

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Speaker 1: the musical chairs with quarterbacks is what he'll be Somewhere.

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Speaker 1: I think the Niners are waiting out post draft to

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Speaker 1: let teams really realize there aren't that many good quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in this draft. We need a vet. He'll go somewhere

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Speaker 1: and he'll I think he'll actually drum up more demand

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Speaker 1: than what Baker he'll get as far as what the

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Speaker 1: team's going to get in return for a trade. But

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Speaker 1: there's definitely a market for Jimmy Garoppolo. Is there any

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Speaker 1: football concerns? Are there any football concerns about Deshaun Watson

637
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 1: just as a player, just as a quarterback? Zero zero.

638
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: I think he's, you know, within the top five best

639
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: players in the league. He changes your team instantly. He

640
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: brings a level of confidence to your team instantly, you know.

641
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: I know there's there's obviously a lot of guys that

642
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: love playing with Baker and have a tremendous amount of respect.

643
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: I've seen some quotes about the warrior that he was

644
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: and playing injured, playing through the shoulder and all that

645
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: he played through. But Deshaun's the same type of player.

646
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Speaker 1: You know, he puts it on the field. You get

647
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: everything he's got, you get it. You get it from

648
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: him on a daily basis, on a weekly basis throughout

649
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: the season. I think Deshaun's gonna have a great year.

650
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: You combine Sean Deshaun with those two running backs, that

651
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: pass rush they have there in Cleveland, the opportunistic defense

652
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: on the back end that can get picks and get

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00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 1: him the ball back, and more importantly, something that Deshaun

654
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: has not had an offensive line like the Cleveland Browns

655
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: since he got into the league. So seeing Deshaun play

656
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: with that group in front of him in Cleveland's gonna

657
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: be something new that we haven't seen him play with

658
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: at this level. How many massage therapists did you have

659
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: when you were playing? Just one? Just one, my guy,

660
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: Dave Matthews and Phoenix. He's the best in the business,

661
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: actually works on a number of NFL guys. But if

662
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Speaker 1: you find you know, Massau's therapists are like anything, there's

663
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Speaker 1: a bunch of them and only a very few select

664
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Speaker 1: hand you know, you know, top one percent are really

665
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: gifted and talented. It had been given a god given ability.

666
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 1: So when you find that guy, I think we've heard

667
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has found, you know, found his and spends

668
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Speaker 1: a lot of money on his guy. But finding the

669
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Speaker 1: right guy that can keep you together. Tom Brady with

670
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: Alex Guerrero for all the years he's been he's been playing.

671
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: Finding that right guy is priceless. Yeah, I've said that before.

672
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: I mentioned in the first hour of the show, I

673
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Speaker 1: have somebody who played thirteen years and played somebody else

674
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: played nine and I said, how many massage therapists? And

675
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: they both said one? If you find the one. That's

676
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: why you have a serial pattern here with Deshaun Watson.

677
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: You don't have twenty two and you're not finding them

678
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Speaker 1: on Instagram. Yeah, I mean I I don't know exactly

679
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: what went on there. I don't know that we all

680
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: will or we all will for a little while, you know,

681
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 1: until he gets cleared that he's able to play all

682
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: seventeen games for the Cleveland Browns. There's no suspensions until

683
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: we start hearing Matt chatter. We don't know where that

684
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: situation is. I haven't had you on since uh, you

685
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: know your Cardinals there with Kyler Murray. Is everything good

686
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: with your Cardinals here and his demands? I think everything

687
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: will be good when he signs his next contract. But

688
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: until that time, I mean, there's you know, it's been

689
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: a tumultuonless offseason for the for the Cardinals and for

690
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: Kyler obviously is this story is unfolded. But the chatter

691
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: that's quieted down, I think he's a good sign. I

692
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: think it means they're making some headway on a new

693
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Speaker 1: contract or they've got some sort of agreement in place

694
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: verbally when they will get to that contract discussion. So

695
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Speaker 1: the fact that it's been quiet all quiet on that

696
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: front is probably a good thing for the Carts. I

697
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: said at the time, and I firmly believe it that

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs got a deal, a bargain with Patrick Mahomes's contract,

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Speaker 1: like once in three or four years, Like, what are

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks going to be making? And Mahomes that's gonna be

701
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: a bargain. Yeah, Well that's the problem. And that's why

702
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: you've seen Aaron insistently signed shorter term deals because he

703
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 1: knows every three or four years, once that guaranteed money

704
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: is paid out on that portion of the contract, that

705
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: he's up for a new one. That's the problem with

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Speaker 1: a guy like Mahomes. And like to your point, the

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00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: Chiefs did the right thing by giving him a longer

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00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: term deal, more duration, more years. If they would have

709
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: given him a shorter deal, which he would have preferred

710
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs not preferred. He'd be up for renegotiation

711
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: probably after this season. But the longer the deal you signed.

712
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: That day you sign it, it looks really sexy and

713
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 1: it looks really good. But when it's seven, eight, nine

714
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: year deal, once you get halfway through it, you're underpaid.

715
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz going to the Commanders. Have they found their quarterback? No? No,

716
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Speaker 1: I think it's a you know, it's a stop gap

717
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: for them. They're still searching. I feel like, you know,

718
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: you think back to those early days or RG three

719
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: and then Kirk Cousins, and then Kirk Cousins wasn't good

720
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Speaker 1: enough for him, but they kept paying him with the

721
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: they kept tagging him and tagging him, and then he

722
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: was onto a new team and they got nothing for him.

723
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Speaker 1: It just doesn't seem like they know what they're doing

724
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Speaker 1: from a quarterback position. I mean, it's been a constant search.

725
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Speaker 1: Not that the search is easy, but again, you just

726
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: saw the Indianapolis Colts go through it. I mean, and

727
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Speaker 1: the Commanders are in the same situation. They've got a

728
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Speaker 1: good offensive line, they've got a good defense that got

729
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: some really nice pieces, and they're a quarterback away. But

730
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Speaker 1: the Colts just showed you what you shouldn't do is

731
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Speaker 1: take on a one year contract or a two year

732
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Speaker 1: contract for a guy that you know has not played

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Speaker 1: well or played up to his potential in years. And

734
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Speaker 1: I think we're going to see the same thing shake

735
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: out in Washington that we saw shake out this past

736
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Speaker 1: season in indian I got you two and a half

737
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Speaker 1: years younger than Tom Brady, and here he is coming back. Carson,

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Speaker 1: I wish your reaction. I don't think you can be

739
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: surprised with anything that happens with Brady. You know, I

740
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: never really bought into the retirement thing because you didn't

741
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: officially see him say it or really see any real

742
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: response from him on it. Um. But he's he's a

743
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: modern marvel. I mean, the guy keeps doing it. I

744
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: cannot imagine I woke up this morning early before the

745
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: show to get a workout in, and I cannot imagine

746
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: waking up early to get my workout on and get

747
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: getting prepared for next season at my age, let alone

748
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Speaker 1: at forty four. Yeah, if I gave you six months

749
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 1: to get ready to play, to play in one game,

750
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: or play how about one, I could get through the

751
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: first half of the month. But once I got into

752
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: the locker room and my body had a chance to

753
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: cool down and I had I sat down on you know,

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00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: in front of in front of my locker, on the bench,

755
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: I'd have a tough time getting back up to head

756
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: out to the stadium for the third quarter. I know

757
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: you do some great things that maybe people aren't aware of.

758
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: You're involved in Camp Rainbow Gold. Give you the opportunity

759
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: to talk about how special that place is to you. Yeah,

760
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to be the spokesperson for Camp Rainbow Gold.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a camp in Idaho. We're kids from all

762
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: of the state with cancer can trade in and get

763
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Speaker 1: out of the hospital that they've been living in and

764
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: get out of those bright lights of a hospital and

765
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: get outside and go to summer camp like a like

766
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Speaker 1: a normal kid their age. The camp is full of

767
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: all people donating their time, the camp counselors, the doctors

768
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: that come in to administer chemotherapy, to do checkups. So

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Speaker 1: it's an amazing place in Fairfield, Idaho. You can learn

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00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: more about it on Camp Rainbow Gold dot org. But

771
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's a beautiful, special

772
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: place where kids with cancer that haven't had their fair

773
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: shake at life, or their families, their siblings, their mom

774
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: and dad that have been living in a hospital with

775
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: them can get out and be a normal kid and

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00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: go to summer camp. So it's a great organization. I'm

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00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: really proud to be a part of it, and you

778
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: can learn more again on camp Rainbow gold dot org.

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Speaker 1: Great to talk to you is always Carson. Thanks for

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00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: joining us. Thanks Dan Carson, Palmer, Heisman Trophy winner, former

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00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,479
Speaker 1: NFL Quarterban get a more phone calls in here. Best

782
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,959
Speaker 1: and worst of the weekend. Bob in Florida, Hi Bob,

783
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: what's on your mind? Hey Bob? Blow Dan, Hi Bob,

784
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 1: can you hear me? Danes So I got you, Bob

785
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: all right? I got first of all five eight one

786
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Speaker 1: seven best than two worst, best as both cyclone men

787
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Speaker 1: and women are in the sweet sixteen. My two worst

788
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 1: are I was in a survivor pool and I switched

789
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: my pick to Auburn who from Texas Tech because I

790
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: didn't want to root against Notre Dame. So now I'm

791
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: out ouch. You're not supposed to root, well, it's a

792
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: sentimental thing. So my second worst is I had my

793
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: bracket all filled out for your pool, but somehow it

794
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: didn't get into the system. All right, Well, sorry about that, Bob.

795
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: I know who I blame, Fritzie. Why not me? Why

796
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: do you what do you have against? Bob in Florida?

797
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: Rest me wrong way a little bit. Mike in California, Hi, Mike,

798
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 1: what's on your mind? Good morning, Dan. It's an honor

799
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Speaker 1: to talk to very long time listener, first time career.

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Speaker 1: My best of the weekend was here was watching your

801
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: interview with David Ferrety. I was. I was surfing through

802
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: Peacock Network and I came across season four, episode fourteen

803
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: with your interview with David and it was transcendental. That's

804
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: all I can say it. It was the two greatest

805
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: interviewers of all time is having chat and it gave

806
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: me so much insight into you as a person. And

807
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: I've always thought you were a pretty good guy, but

808
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: now I think you're wonderful because of your your commitment

809
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: to family. You're you're leaving the Mothership to be with

810
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: your family was touching. I'll have to I'll have to say, well,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Mike, thank you. I don't know if my

812
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: family feels the same way, but at the time I

813
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 1: thought they'd do like, are you just gonna be here now? Yeah?

814
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: Every day? Thank you? Are you going anywhere? No? No, no,

815
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm I'm home. See like, you're just gonna be here,

816
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: Like like, are you gonna like be downstairs? Like where

817
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: are you gonna be? Oh no, it's good, No, it's great, no,

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Speaker 1: good good? Yeah, you know every day. Yeah. More. I'm

819
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: sure they were like, oh you're still here? Yeah, Like dad,

820
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: don't you have somewhere to be? Like, how was it,

821
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: like when did you really get tired of being home

822
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 1: all the time. I don't know if I got tired.

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00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: I just kind of looked around and nobody was at home,

824
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: you know, they my wife wanted me home. And then

825
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: I got home, and you know, everybody has schedules, they

826
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: were all out of the house. So I was sitting

827
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Speaker 1: there with lou the dog, and you know, I Paully

828
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: would come over and I'd be doing household chores. You'd

829
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Speaker 1: be on the back porch sweeping, and you've been sweeping

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00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: for like twenty minutes. Yeah, there was nothing to sweep.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I just needed something to do. And

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00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: uh yeah, that's you know, when they want you home

833
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: and then you come home, but they got other things

834
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: they're doing. Yeah, Mark, do they want you home? Just

835
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: for certain things like, oh, my baseball game is X,

836
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: Y and Z. No, it's can you take the kids? Oh?

837
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Speaker 1: Can you pick them up? Hey while you're out? Can you?

838
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: So it was a lot of that, but it was

839
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Speaker 1: really important. I don't want to diminish it. I have

840
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: fun with it, but no, it was extremely important at

841
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: the time, certainly given the ages of my daughters. They were,

842
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: you know, nine through thirteen, and you know, got to

843
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: be around because all of a sudden, boys start showing

844
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Speaker 1: up and then that's when I gotta I gotta get

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00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: the deeper voice there and I say, yeah, can I

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Speaker 1: help you? Yea, So it's a grace home. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: who's asking? Oh Jimmy Lepper, All right, hold on, Jimmy. Yes, Mark,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like, do you have to be home?

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Speaker 1: Like I don't have to be home for Lorenzo do I? No?

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Speaker 1: I mean you should be around. You're around. I was,

851
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Speaker 1: but I was doing second shift for fifteen years. You know,

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Speaker 1: I would go the entire week. I didn't even see

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Speaker 1: my kids during school year because I'd get home at

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Speaker 1: one in the morning and they would you know, be

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Speaker 1: in bed, or they'd be out the door early in

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Speaker 1: the morning go to school by the time I woke up. Yeapo,

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Speaker 1: I remember when I first started working with you. You

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Speaker 1: would be at a ten thirty meeting AM at Mothership.

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Speaker 1: We'll be there for our meeting, me for it to

860
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Speaker 1: you and the guys, and then you'd go, you know,

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Speaker 1: launch show one till four. You couldn't drive all the

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Speaker 1: way at back home, even though you had an eleven

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Speaker 1: o'clock Sports Center, so you would eat, nap, hang out

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Speaker 1: right prep and you just come walking in, you know.

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Speaker 1: Down there you'd be making phone calls, checking in with

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Speaker 1: Fritzie and I. And because the schedule is so long, yes, son,

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Speaker 1: And then even after the three hour show from one

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Speaker 1: to four, a lot of times they pulled you to

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Speaker 1: the studio sooner because you had a pre tape interviews

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Speaker 1: for Sports Center, So there was even that on top

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Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, the napping on a sleeping bag in

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Speaker 1: my office, that was about as low as you could

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Speaker 1: probably go. Where you're like, man, do I live the life?

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Speaker 1: I'm on TV? I'm sleeping in a sleeping bag in

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Speaker 1: my office. I'm sure Bob Costas is doing this somewhere