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Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Nodunks podcast on the

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Speaker 2: Athletic Network, Monday, January twenty second, twenty twenty four. I'm

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Speaker 2: Jay Skeiths here in the Classic Factory and alongside me

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Speaker 2: as always tas.

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Speaker 1: Mellis podcast listeners, this is for you.

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Speaker 2: And of course over yonder the man making the magic happen.

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Speaker 2: He's a super producer. We call him JD. Hello, there

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Speaker 2: he is, and here we are. No Trey Kirby today

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Speaker 2: or tomorrow. He is back in Chicago celebrating his dad's retirement,

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Speaker 2: and we send our best to Steve Kirby. Steve, Steve

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Speaker 2: wore a hat, apparently for the first time in like

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Speaker 2: He's got a great set of hair.

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Speaker 3: I would never wear a hat if I had his hair.

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Speaker 1: Yes, good hair. I've never seen him a hat either,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. They were like gift wrap that game

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Speaker 1: I liked how Tony Romo brought up that one. He

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Speaker 2: rumor slop, Yes, the slop scale returns to your lives.

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Speaker 1: Trade rumors are hotter than ever in the NBA. God,

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Speaker 2: But before all of that, we had a leggie and

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Speaker 2: got the old like trap game versus the Wizards, like

430
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Speaker 2: following the Celtics game, and they still get it done,

431
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 2: led by Jokic who was the monster, like he said

432
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,919
Speaker 2: forty two. But like those are ones that a lot

433
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 2: of teams loose because it's like, ah, we had the

434
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,439
Speaker 2: huge game and now we're like, okay, now we'll just

435
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 2: we'll coast for a couple quarters here and we'll try

436
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 2: and turn it on. Sometimes that bites you in the ass,

437
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,479
Speaker 2: but they took care of business in the end.

438
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Speaker 1: Lucky it was the Wizards.

439
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. All right, let's move on to Ojiannaobi and

440
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 2: the Knicks fans as winner of the weekends. Let's start

441
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,880
Speaker 2: with the Knicks fans who really showed some love, went

442
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 2: out of their way. I think is fair to say

443
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 2: to celebrate the returns of Emmanuel Quickly and RJ. Barrett,

444
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,640
Speaker 2: who each played at Madison Square Garden on Saturday night

445
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,959
Speaker 2: for the first time following the big trade with the Raps.

446
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 2: They got standing ovations during introductions and then got standing

447
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 2: ovations during the tribute video, which was shown during the

448
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 2: first media timeout. That was pretty cool, like like, these

449
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 2: are this is quickly embarrassed. Guys that have been there,

450
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, had some say in some some

451
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 2: success for the next over recent years, but like, these

452
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 2: aren't legendary players right, like the their jerseys are not

453
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 2: going up in the rafters, and for them to still

454
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 2: get that response I thought was a pretty cool showing

455
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 2: there from Knicks fans who, like a lot of people

456
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: are like, oh they won't it's you know, you see

457
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 2: the odd Knicks fans on Twitter like they're they're the enemy,

458
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 2: don't cheer them anymore, And people are like, are you

459
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 2: kidding me? No, you show love to these guys that

460
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 2: helped sort of build us up here and if anything,

461
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: helped us get og and Andobian here. I just thought

462
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 2: it was cool that the love that the Knicks fans

463
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Speaker 2: showed to them.

464
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the comments for both those players after the

465
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 1: game basically were like I love this place already.

466
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 2: Barrett said he wasn't even sure if they were going

467
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 2: to get a tribute video. Yeah, he was like, I

468
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 2: don't know what'll we get one? And then of course

469
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 2: they did.

470
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Speaker 1: So yeah, but all all the players and all these strages,

471
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 1: trades between the Raptors, Knicks and the Raptors and Pacers,

472
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Speaker 1: you see, I'm talking about it and Barrett just showing

473
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 1: love to their previous team. They basically were like, you know,

474
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't even know if I was

475
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 1: ever gonna leave. I love Madison Square Garden. I love

476
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Speaker 1: being with the New York Knicks. It's such a special

477
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 1: place for me. So, yeah, there's everybody's really nice these days.

478
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 1: It was loving, it.

479
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: Was, but Og is the real winner of the weekend,

480
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 2: and the Knicks, of course the perfect fit. Like honestly,

481
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 2: they're nine and two since the deal. The Knicks have

482
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 2: a one oh three point five defensive rating since they

483
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 2: got Og in the in the starting lineup, that's the

484
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 2: best mark in the league. Over that stretch, they have

485
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 2: held opponents to just ninety eight point seven points per

486
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: one hundred possessions when Anonobe is on the floor, and

487
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 2: he's on the floor a lot because he plays for

488
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 2: TIBs and he plays defense. Yeah, and he loves that.

489
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 2: So you're gonna be out there. He's playing, you know,

490
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 2: nearly thirty seven minutes per night. Here, the Knicks have

491
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 2: outscored their opponents by one hundred and ninety points in

492
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Speaker 2: OG's four hundred and four minutes. I thought that was

493
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 2: maybe a typo At first. I was like, that can't

494
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 2: be right. But we have fact checked that and that

495
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 2: is incredible. Tibbs has said Anonnobe is a defense unto himself.

496
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,959
Speaker 2: And one thing in watching them hammer the Raptors as

497
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 2: that game went on and how they've played with Og.

498
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 2: You when the trade went down, you kept bringing up

499
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 2: a couple times. You were like, ah, I wonder how

500
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 2: Og will feel about his role with the Knicks, because

501
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: you know, that was sort of the one thing that

502
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 2: kept coming up when he was with the Raptors. He's

503
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 2: sort of buried in the pecking order of offensive responsibility,

504
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 2: and you wondered, well, that might be the same. In

505
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 2: New York. Eric Korean Great point in an article over

506
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: the weekend he does not have a bigger role that

507
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: he occasionally pushed for in Toronto. His usage rate OG's

508
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: in New York is lower than it has been since

509
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: his third year in the league. But as Eric wrote,

510
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 2: it's easier to accept a role like that when you're

511
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Speaker 2: on a team that is winning and a nice payday

512
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 2: is coming your way. And I think there's a lot

513
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 2: of truth to that. So, yeah, usage rate, how he's

514
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 2: being used offensively, it's very similar hanging in the corners, man, exactly,

515
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 2: stand in the corner, fire away and that's it. Man,

516
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: you're out here for defense. But I think you're right that, Like, look,

517
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: he's in New York, he's getting more attention. There's that

518
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 2: he's going to get a huge payday, and they're winning

519
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 2: a bunch of games, which is I mean that fixes everything.

520
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's all grown up. It sure seems like he's

521
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: not talking about having the ball in his hands more,

522
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: needing it in his hands more. He's just going to

523
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 1: get paid per minute, hopefully for him because he's playing

524
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: so many freaking minutes. This is his job now, and

525
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: I guess he's grown as a man. He's just grown

526
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: as a person not having to talk it as much.

527
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: But this is basically his career high in minutes so

528
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: far with the Knicks would be his career high. He's

529
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Speaker 1: had three games of playing over forty two minutes. Yeah,

530
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: and he's already leading the Knicks in minutes play it

531
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Speaker 1: per game. That's astonishing to me, the fact that the

532
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: giant guy just got there and he's already leading the game,

533
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Speaker 1: and the fact that they're outscoring guys are outscoring other

534
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: teams to that effect. With Chilen Jalen Brunson missing a

535
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: couple of games, who is their guy offensively? That's clear

536
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: him and Randall are the guys. But this is cool

537
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: for for Ogi to step in. That was a terrible

538
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: game against the Raptors. From the Raptors side, Yeah, it.

539
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 2: Started okay and then it yeah, yeah, got out of control.

540
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: And it's it's a feel right. The Knicks feel good

541
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: about Randall and Brentson being their lead offensive guys. They

542
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: won a playoff round last year and they're just they're

543
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: building around that with Emmanuel Quickly and RGI Barrett, they're

544
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: also trying to do that Quickly and Barrett, you're along

545
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: with Barnes, you are our lead offensive guys. I'm speaking

546
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: specifically about Quickly because Quickly is is more so the

547
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 1: future that they're looking at than RJ. Barrett. He had

548
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: eleven assists in this game, but he didn't He didn't

549
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: score like you could and that just stopped you. Just

550
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: you just wasn't shooting a lot. So they're this is

551
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: going to be a bad year for the Raps. So

552
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: all that to say, they're testing things out. Will get

553
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: to if they want to trade some guys around those

554
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: top guys in a mere few minutes. But they could

555
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: and there's a reason for that. But yeah, they got destroyed.

556
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: They're too tiny. They're out rebounded by thirty in this game.

557
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: They need a center, that's for sure. But anyways, it

558
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: was fun. It was fun to watch, and it was

559
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: fun to see the tributes and everybody enjoy those tributes.

560
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 2: All right, there's only two of us. Let's do one

561
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: more round of winners. Who else you got?

562
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Speaker 1: I'm going with the Indiana Pacers. What they lost both

563
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: their games this weekend? What why should they be winners? Well,

564
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: Tyrese Haliburton came back in that first game. Everybody was

565
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: expecting his hamstring to hold him back even longer than this,

566
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: but he did come back. And that was his first

567
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: game with Pascal Siakam, because that was Siakam's first game

568
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: with the Pacers, and oh boy, that offensive lineup with him,

569
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Speaker 1: the two of them, I should say, Halley Siakam, Buddy Healed,

570
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: Aaron E. Smith and Myles Turner. That starting five was

571
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: a phenomenal in that game. And Sam and Haliburton specifically

572
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 1: were awesome. They played twenty six minutes together. They were

573
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: plus twenty seven. They're phenomenal in that game, and Siakam

574
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: looked good and they're just playing so well together. And

575
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: that new starting five that I just mentioned was plus

576
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: twenty two in the game minutes that they played. That's it.

577
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: They had a ridiculously offensive game, phenomenal stuff. It was

578
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: their bench that was terrible, and that's why they lost

579
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: to the Blazers on the road. As they continued this

580
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: six game road trip. It is interesting we're talking about

581
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: players who could be traded. When I say the backcourt

582
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: is now Halle and Buddy Healed and then Nie Smith,

583
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: Siakam and Turner. I wonder if Heel should go to

584
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: the bench just for Andrew Nephard to be in. They're

585
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 1: a little bit to have a little bit of defense

586
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: in that backcourt. It adin't happen right now, But anyways,

587
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: they lose that game, but their starters look great, and

588
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: this is obviously they're trying to figure things out. And

589
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: then in the next game, Haliburton does sit out because

590
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: they didn't want to play them every game against the Suns.

591
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: But it went down to the wire and Siakam making

592
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: a big block attempt on Bradley late and it looked

593
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: like they were They were good. Their bench actually played

594
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: good in this one. It was a flip of the script.

595
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: Obi Topping now on the bench and Jaris Walker, the

596
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: guy that they picked number eight in this recent draft,

597
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: the last draft, and for some reason hasn't been playing

598
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: a lot as a big forward. He's starting to play more.

599
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: So these pacers are trying to figure things out and

600
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: feeling it out. He was ten and nine and he's

601
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: shooting forty percent from three on the season. The guy

602
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: can shoot it as a big. So it was a

603
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 1: tough end to the six game road trip. Sure, that's fine.

604
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: They went two and four. They almost went three and three,

605
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: which would have been reasonable for any team in the NBA.

606
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: But it's a great sign. I mentioned all these guys' names.

607
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: Obi Toping coming off the bench, Andrew Nemhart could be

608
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: a starter Jariff Walker. They're not paying anybody, I mean

609
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: they're not. They have a very very low payroll overall,

610
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: and they've got great decisions to make. So yes, all

611
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: in all, zero and two not so good. But the

612
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: fact the fact that they were plus twenty two in

613
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: those minutes where they're starting five and a great offensive

614
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: rating on already eight point eight. With those five guys,

615
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: they know that they can beat anybody. And Siakam was

616
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: just is a great fit already. I mean they just

617
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: started him on the road and he was a great fit.

618
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. If we were doing losers of the Weekend, Benedict

619
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: Mathren may have gotten an overable mention. He was one

620
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: of sixteen, I believe in those two games over the

621
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: weekend in the two losses. But I see what you're

622
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: saying with how Siakam looked, especially with Haliburton in that

623
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: first game, no tyres in the second one. Yes, two losses,

624
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: tough road trip, but you can see why they made

625
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: a move like that, the idea of giving him a

626
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: big contract Seakham in the offseason and then roll it

627
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: moving forward with those two as your stars and then

628
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: all this young talent around them right now, and whether

629
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: or not they move off of a buddy heel at

630
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: the trade down line, maybe one of the young prospects,

631
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: probably unlikely. They didn't have to include one in the

632
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: Seacam deal, so I don't see why they would want

633
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: to do it for someone else.

634
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they have a lot of talent, they do.

635
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: They know the four guys that they're starting right now, Haliburn, Siakam, Turner,

636
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: Aaron Nesmith because he's so good defensive. So they're still

637
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: trying to figure out the fifth spot. I think it's

638
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: going to change, but they have depth and so they

639
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: might clear out some guys as well. But it's a

640
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: good problem. They Yeah, they were rowing too, but the

641
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: fact of where they are right now is a surprised.

642
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: They've overachieved this season, and their second half schedule is

643
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: far easier than their first half. It's gonna be way

644
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: way lighter. But Haliburn was fine in Seakam and now

645
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: Seakam even though you know, you look at him and

646
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: you say, is he is he an All NBA player?

647
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: What was this guy as that as a Toronto Raptor.

648
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: He's clearly now a second guy easily with Halburn, So

649
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: he's in a more appropriate role. There's no doubt you.

650
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: Saw it from game to game. Even he played better

651
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: in the one with Aliburton than he did in the

652
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: one without him against the Suns. Yeah, some other honorable

653
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: mentions for winners of the weekend. The Suns they picked

654
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: up two wins. Booker went for fifty two on Friday

655
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 2: night against the Pelicans, Katie was a monster on Sunday.

656
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: Beal played really well. So they're getting to going here.

657
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: You know, don't get too excited because someone inevitably gets hurt.

658
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: But the Suns starting to look like the team we

659
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: thought they might be with the the three guys as

660
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: their offensive juggernaut. There. Clippers ended their game on Sunday

661
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: afternoon with a twenty two to zero run to beat

662
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: the Nets. Came back out of nowhere. So they get

663
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: a little honorable mention. And Franz Wagner returned to the

664
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: Magic this weekend too. He had missed like eight games,

665
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: which would surprised me, but he had nineteen points five

666
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: assists in that win over Miami in the game over

667
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: the weekend. So Franz coming back, that's good. But I

668
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: want to give it to Wemby versus Washie wem Mi

669
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: Yama versus Washington, winner of the weekend, the Rookie Sensation.

670
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: He helped the Spurs overcome a twelve point deficit in

671
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: the final five minutes to get the win in regulation

672
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: one thirty one one twenty seven. He had three buckets

673
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: during that twelve oh run Wemby did. He scored easily

674
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: over Avdia in the little left hand hook. Loved to

675
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: see it physicality. You know, he's obviously slight as a

676
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: seven to four five whatever he is guy, but he

677
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: worked hard for it to get the position there on Avdia.

678
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: They hit him in the middle and then he's like,

679
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: it's so easy. It's like it's like you like scoring

680
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: over like your small nephew or something, and it's like

681
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: the height difference is hilarious. Then he hit a very

682
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: tough driving floater to cut the lead to five that

683
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: registered a wizard's time out because suddenly the Spurs were

684
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: back in this game. And then later when min Yama

685
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: splashed a tying three pointer with about two minutes and

686
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,239
Speaker 2: change to go, nice little pick and pop action on

687
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: the side they left him. He knocked it home. You know.

688
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: He struggled with a three point shot this year, but

689
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: hit that one eighteen points in the second half, finished

690
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: with twenty four eight, six blocks and four assists. That

691
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: was the other thing. In the fourth quarter. The Wizards

692
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: were like zero for six on layups and dunks when

693
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: wehen Minyama was around them terrified that he was gonna

694
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: block them. So good stuff there from him. I think

695
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: I got much need to win. They don't have a

696
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: lot of wins this year. I know it's against the Wizards,

697
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: but they picked it up and he was the real

698
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: big reason why down the stretch.

699
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: He doesn't like his minutes restriction. What I loved about

700
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: him This weekend he did a little interview and he said,

701
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: I hope it's done. I'm kind of tired of how

702
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: he's restricted by his minutes and has to sit games

703
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: occasionally because Greg Popovich is told, you have to sit

704
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: that guy. The doctor's safe.

705
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: He kept like buggering his ankle up there.

706
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: He did, Yeah, a couple times, he did, that's the reason,

707
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 1: you're right. Yeah, And even even before that, they're just

708
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: they're just kind of worried. Uh, They're they're just they're

709
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: conscious of it, and I get that. But he's so

710
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: done with it. He said quote shouldn't be an issue

711
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: no more, and so hopefully it's not. He's got Embiid tonight,

712
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: he's he's got business to take care of tonight in

713
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: a national game, so you know he is arrested for

714
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: this one. Didn't have to play on Sunday, so I imagine

715
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: he will be playing against Joel Embiid, which should be great.

716
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: That's two different body shapes right there. Both big guys,

717
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: tall guys, but one has a lot of weight on

718
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: the other. So that'd be fun to watch. All right,

719
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 2: So there are some winners. I'm sure we left a

720
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 2: whole lot out there. You tell us in the stream

721
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 2: team tweet at us at no dunkcinc. Let us know

722
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 2: in the YouTube comments where you take a quick break

723
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 2: and when we come back, Oh, the piggies are out.

724
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: Slop scale time. Don't go anywhere, all right, still here

725
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: in the classic Factory, JD, I need you to open

726
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: up the barn doors. It's time to slop it up.

727
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 2: Let's feed the piggies the slop scale back in our lives.

728
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: We are once again going to weigh in on the

729
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: latest NBA trade rumors using the slop scale, which is

730
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 2: buckets the heavier and juice here and sloppier the NBA

731
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 2: trade rumor, the more buckets a slop task Melis might

732
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: assign to it. You can go from one bucket to

733
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: slop to five buckets a slop. That's maximum slop, all right.

734
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 2: I pulled a couple rumors from the interwebs this weekend.

735
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: First one caught me by surprise, The Action Networks Matt Moore.

736
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: He slopped it up hard this weekend. Actually, he was

737
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: writing what league sources or known reporting has suggested as

738
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: far as team's intentions at the trade online. He did

739
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 2: like almost every team. He had slapped on every team

740
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: but the one that caught everybody's eye, Matt Moore saying

741
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: that the Pelicans are thought to be open to moving

742
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: Herb Jones. Quote Matt Moore Here, they're high on Jones,

743
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: but it will be difficult for the team to pay

744
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: their stars Jones and Trey Murphy. The third end quote

745
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: so tasks how many buckets a slop are you giving

746
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 2: to this Herb Jones possibly moving at the trade deadline.

747
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: I'll give it five buckets because we just want the hits.

748
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: Just like Matt Moore doing a report on every single. No,

749
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: it's one, it's one bucket. But I understand what Matt

750
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: Moore is doing. What he's talking trades, that's what people

751
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: need to do to get the hits. So he's talking shit,

752
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: well in this one and this well, yeah, pigs eat shit,

753
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: I guess. But because I hope you're not watching the

754
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: video the intro of our pig slop, because that's gross stuff. Anyway,

755
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: in this instance, the Herb Jones thing, they signed him

756
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: to a five year deal before this season, so why

757
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: the heck would they want to trade him. I get

758
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: that him and Trey Murphy may have some you know,

759
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: they're kind of similar players, but Trey Murphy's a fantastic

760
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: three point shooter. Anyway. I just think that the Pelicans

761
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: in general have gone it for it in years past,

762
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: like they've really really got it. They put a lot

763
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: into a trading for CJ. McCall. They put a max

764
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: for Zion Williamson when they're not sure exactly how great

765
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna be. I just don't get why you would

766
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: trade Herbert Jones. They just don't know if it's all

767
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: coming together for sure. So you've got a guy that

768
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: you signed for five years at basically twelve to fourteen

769
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: per year.

770
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 2: See, he's a discount deal.

771
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: It's extremely cheap. So I think they're going to keep

772
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: the cheap deals that they have, and this is one

773
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: of them. I get that Trey Murphy and him. Yeah,

774
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: maybe maybe they overlap. Maybe why pay one a lot

775
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: more money and not keep the other? But it doesn't

776
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: really make sense at this point. You just you have

777
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 1: to make some smart moves, and keeping him here makes sense.

778
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: Yes, this is absolutely one bucket. That's the minimum we

779
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: can go. It should be zero if we're being honest.

780
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: I look, I like Matt Mooury, He's got a lot

781
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: of hot takes. I'm not sure about this one though.

782
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: You said it. Her makes thirteen million a year for

783
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: three more years after this year, Like that is nothing

784
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: in this league?

785
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: Four years, isn't it?

786
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, well, I mean I guess I'm counting this one,

787
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: is it?

788
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was an additional FOI okay

789
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: he signed a five year deal. Oh no, you're right,

790
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: it's three My bad? Okay, my bad, my bad?

791
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: So three more years after this one?

792
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

793
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: At that deal? Like you said, whatever, ballpark thirteen million,

794
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: which is again nothing in this league. The Pells are

795
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: under the luxury tax because of that little slick of

796
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: bookkeeping they did with uh Lewis and the whole Pacers

797
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 2: Raptors trade. Yeah, they're only only real meaningful free agent.

798
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: I believe this Saw season will be Jonas Valancunas, so

799
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: decisions to be made there. But you don't get why. Look,

800
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: I get why other teams might be going, Whoh, you've

801
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 2: got Trader for the third Ooh, you've got Hawkins, You've

802
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 2: got herb Jones. You don't need all them Pelicans. Could

803
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: we get one of those guys that we really like,

804
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean the Pelicans should be actively shopping

805
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 2: him unless they are going big game hunting, which then

806
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: maybe a guy like him is involved in a deal.

807
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, one bucket of slop tops.

808
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: They've already done enough big game hunting. In my opinion,

809
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: they're over one hundred million dollars next year in just

810
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: three guys in McCollum, Ingram and Zion. And you don't

811
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: know if you're gonna be an incredible team, although on

812
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: paper everything looks good, and then you have great support

813
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: for those three stars with Alvarado and everybody. However, you

814
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: just don't know, and so it would make sense for

815
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: a team that doesn't want to pay the luxury tax

816
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: David Griffin has gone for over and over. But they

817
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: made a great signing here and I get it. I

818
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: get it.

819
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 2: But no, just to add to this too, It's one

820
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: thing if the Pelicans are eighteen and twenty five right

821
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: now and really struggling and it's not working, they're the

822
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: flip of that. They're twenty five and eighteen. This is

823
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: the best they've played over the last couple of weeks. Yeah,

824
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: I know they had a bit of a sauce schedule there,

825
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: but they are like fifth in the Western Conference right now.

826
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: This isn't like. This isn't like what's going on with

827
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 2: the Hawks in the East. Is my point where it's like, Okay,

828
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: this is WHI should be way better than this, and

829
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: then you start to panic and go, okay, now we

830
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: got to move this. Get this guy in like it's

831
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: not that bad. So this like is even more befuddling

832
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: to me that Herb Jones's name would be up in

833
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 2: any sort of trade rumor.

834
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: I get it. I think it actually makes a little

835
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: more sense that they're winning team and they're just they

836
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: just want to go for according to these rumors, but

837
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't really make sense to me overall.

838
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, one bucket there, we agree on that one,

839
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 2: all right, Next one, This one's from mark Stein. Mark

840
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: Stein reported recently that the Blazers are con considered likely

841
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 2: to trade Malcolm Brogden in the coming weeks. If they do,

842
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: the Knicks are expected to be interested. New York is

843
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 2: looking to replace some of the bench production they lost

844
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: when quickly went out there to the raps. Brogden has

845
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: two seasons left on his contract, both fully guaranteed twenty

846
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: two point five million. New York has also reportedly registered

847
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: interest in Utah's Jordan Clarkson. So yes, the question here

848
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: tasks is how many buckets does the Knick's interest in

849
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: Brogden slash Clarkson. Let's call it get from you?

850
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: What shall I register with these buckets? Yeah? I'm going

851
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: with a light two out of five buckets here, because

852
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: this is a TIBs team that plays guys heavy and

853
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: specifically about the guys here, Malcolm Brogden or Jordan Clarkson.

854
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: Malcolm Broadeny, I don't think makes a heck of a

855
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: lot of sense. I love the guy, obviously he's phenomenal,

856
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 1: but Boston got off of him this past season because

857
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: he's constantly injured, unfortunately, And so would you want the

858
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: Knicks to go say, hey, come on, you're getting paid

859
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: twenty two million next year, so you're taking out a

860
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: good chunk of change from this team, specifically with Brogden,

861
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: and you already have guards. When we just talked about

862
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson, that guy has to play a lot. And

863
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 1: I understand you may want another ball handler like Brogden

864
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: beside him, but you do have some and de Vincenzo

865
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: and Josh hart E McBride and Og. Now so you

866
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: know guy's wings. I don't really see that when you're

867
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: already going to be paying Og to a new contract,

868
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: so og, Randall and Brunson are going to be over ninety.

869
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: But a cheaper Clarkson makes a little more sense to me,

870
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: A cheaper Clarkson who doesn't get hurt, and so Clarkson

871
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: at fourteen per I'm a little bit more in Clinton maybe,

872
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: but they do have a bunch of guards, and I

873
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: could see them taking a chance on Clarkson. It does

874
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: sort of make sense there to add him, depending on

875
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: what they have to give up for him.

876
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the hang up for me. Yes, I actually

877
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: think someone like Clarkson on the Knicks is what they

878
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 2: would love to have, like sort a bit of the government, honestly,

879
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: sort of what quickly was for them, right like come

880
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 2: in score. I mean that's what Clarkson does. The problem

881
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: is Brogden. He's gonna be moved at the deadline. Clarkson.

882
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what the Jazz are gonna do with him.

883
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess if they were obviously offered a

884
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 2: deal they couldn't say no to, they would, but they're

885
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 2: playing well, They've turned their season around, so just much

886
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 2: more difficult to figure out what sort of what would

887
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: be going in exchange to get actually Clarkson the fit. Yeah.

888
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: I could see Clarkson being a bit of a fan

889
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 2: favorite immediately there in New York, coming off the bench

890
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: and getting buckets. But I just think it's a little

891
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: bit more difficult to get. I'm not sure if you

892
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: Ta is ready to move on from him.

893
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, And as far as the Knicks go, you know,

894
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: I mentioned the guys I mentioned there, and obviously Brunson

895
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: is their guy. And then to have, like you said,

896
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: a guy come off the bench and help like Quinn

897
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: Grimes hasn't been that guy. Josh Hart is a different

898
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: type of player than Jordan Clarkson. I get it. They

899
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: did just sign Duce McBride. They do feel like he

900
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: is good enough. They have d Vincenzo and so they

901
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: got a lot of guards. I'm not sure about Jordan

902
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: Clarkson coming in. Who's gonna want to shoot all the time.

903
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: So I get it. Fourteen mil. It's a good number

904
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: for Clarkson. Obviously he's a great player, but I'm not

905
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: sure he quite fits. But he makes a little more

906
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: sense than Brunson Brogden. Brogden because Evan Fournier comes off

907
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: the books this offseason. They're done there, so they have

908
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: money to go around. But I don't see the Malcolm

909
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: Brogmen thing working.

910
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk a little Raptors. Give me some Raptors news, Okay,

911
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 2: Also from Stein, the Raptors are seeking a first round

912
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 2: pick and a young player for Bruce Brown. Brown, of course,

913
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: just acquired by the Raptors in the Pacers deal with Siakam.

914
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: Two teams known to have interest in Brown include the

915
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: Lakers and Knicks. Brown has a twenty three million dollar

916
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: team option for next season. So Stein says, Raps seeking

917
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: first round pick and young player for Bruce Brown. How

918
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: many buckets a slop tast, Mili.

919
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: I gotta go hot. I do feel like there's a

920
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: good chance that the Raps give up on Bruce Brown.

921
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: So four out of five for me here, I'm gonna

922
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: miss Bruce. But he is perfect for a really good team.

923
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: He's a complimentary player, is not necessarily an all starr.

924
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: He will do anything and everything for a team to

925
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: take the next step. See the Denver Nuggets, it wasn't

926
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 1: that long ago. They just played the Knicks, as we said,

927
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: And he called himself a Tibbs player.

928
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said him a dog.

929
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he thought he may be drafted by

930
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 1: the Minnesota timber Wolves, where Tibbs was the coach way

931
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: back when.

932
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 2: And he said he said he considered signing with the

933
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: Knicks before signing with the Pacers.

934
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I don't know if he's just selling

935
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: himself here, you know, but it is an interesting thing

936
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: because the Pacers kind of ballooned his contract that he

937
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: signed this preseason because you have to have a number

938
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: at the salary floor now you have to pay a

939
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: certain amount or else you're just gonna pay it anyways.

940
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: So they kind of ballooned his contract in that he's

941
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: making twenty three per year, twenty three next year. Yeah,

942
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: so that's a lot for a complimentary player. He's a

943
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: very good player, obviously, and he just spent ten thousand

944
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: dollars of that paying to Johntay Porter, who is on

945
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: the Raptors because he was wearing Bruce Brown's number eleven.

946
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: He's got tons of money, so he said, here's ten k.

947
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: Johntay Porter thought it was going to be a lot more.

948
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, Bruce Brown thought he was going to

949
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: have to pay a lot more. Whatever it was. I

950
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: don't know, but I just don't think it makes sense

951
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: for the Raps being that where they are, they have

952
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: to try things out. They want to pay somebody a

953
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 1: lot next season, and I get that saving twenty three

954
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: million dollars on Bruce Brown makes sense. I don't know

955
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: what you get for Bruce Brown, but I was.

956
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: Going to say, are you getting a first round pick

957
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 2: and a young player?

958
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

959
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so, right, rat, that's a lot to

960
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: ask for. Maybe maybe one of those would be nice.

961
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: I was going to say, that's what it sure feels like.

962
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 2: It's like, we want both of these, and then teams come,

963
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 2: we'll give you one of those, and it's like, Okay,

964
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: we'll take the late first round pick, or we will

965
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: take this young prospect that maybe you've given up on

966
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: but you're not maybe gonna get both. Feelings like that.

967
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just part of a trade for Siakam. That

968
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: was he is the best player in the trade going

969
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: back for Siakam. But all that to say, draft picks

970
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: were abundant in that one.

971
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: Maybe one be really weird if the Raptors and Knicks

972
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 2: made another trade, though, it would be weird, be like

973
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: Massai helping out New York. Here, Hey, sorry about that

974
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: whole you suing this thing. Here's continuing to give you

975
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: good players, and they.

976
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: Have a Josh Hart. It's like that's Bruce Brown in

977
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: a weird way. Yea. You know they have options and

978
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: pink Bruce Brown. That much money is it's a good

979
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: trick of change depending on the team. And they got

980
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: to pay cias oh Jan Andobi this offseason. You know

981
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: money's gonna come off.

982
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: But it is like because of the structure of his contract.

983
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 2: It's like, maybe forget the Knicks like any of these

984
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 2: other teams, And I'm with you, it should be a

985
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: good team, Like he needs to go to a good

986
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: team to be the fifth six to seven's best player

987
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: on that team, right, But you almost could take a

988
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: stab at it. You're like, Wow, maybe Bruce Brown we

989
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 2: think is the difference maker in helping our defense and

990
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: winning a playoff series more whatever to go far. And

991
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 2: if it blows up and it doesn't work, it's like

992
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: you don't have to pick up the option. You wouldn't

993
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 2: want to give up a lot, don't get me wrong. Like,

994
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 2: but if you really think he's a bit of a

995
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: difference maker to your chances to win a title, let's say,

996
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 2: then you could see yourself being aggressive and going and

997
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: if it blows up in your face, it's like, okay,

998
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: well we move off it. It's a team option. It's

999
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 2: twenty three million or not. Just pick it up and

1000
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: you continue to play them.

1001
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: So that's true.

1002
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: I think he is going to be moved. I'm with you.

1003
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: I think I mean MESSI Zery basically said that it

1004
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: was like, it feels like you're not trading for Barnes.

1005
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: Of course, you're not trading for Quickly or Barrett. Maybe

1006
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 2: pearls off the table, maybe not. Everybody else could be had.

1007
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 2: I think on the Toronto Raptors, given the right deal,

1008
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: and we'll move to our final one here in the

1009
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: slop scale because it's also Toronto based. It's from our

1010
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: guy Blake Murphy doing some reporting up there in Canada.

1011
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: Love to see it, he said. He shared on The

1012
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: Raptors Show with Will lou Quote, the Raptors are very

1013
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: likely to trade Chris Bouchet before the deadline. So the

1014
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: slim Canadian center. He's been in and out of Darko's rotation.

1015
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 2: He's not playing a lot. He averages just six and

1016
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: four and fourteen minutes per game. He used to play

1017
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: like twenty minutes game like the last couple years with Nurse.

1018
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: But anyway, how many buckets a slot for Bouchet on

1019
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 2: the move at the deadline.

1020
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: I'm hot on this one. I think it's five. I

1021
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: think they do move on. He's been there forever. It's

1022
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: kind of surprising that he was an NBA champion with

1023
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: this team. It was the last guy standing now from

1024
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: that NBA championship. Although he didn't play a.

1025
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: Lot of the finals.

1026
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that was Pascal. He was the last guy

1027
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: to go. But it is surprising, we know, just just

1028
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: like the front office said, Okay, we've had enough with Og,

1029
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: We've had enough with Pascal, Like this isn't going well enough,

1030
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 1: We've got to make a move. It's the same thing

1031
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: with Chris Bouchet, who Nick Nurse tried to play twenty

1032
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: minutes per game. Sure, yeah, and unfortunately hasn't. He's good

1033
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: and bad, but it's time to part ways. It's just

1034
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: surprising that he's been with the Raptors for six seasons

1035
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: and he only played one game with the Golden State

1036
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: Warriors before that, and that's his entire NBA career. But

1037
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: it would make sense for the Raptors no matter what

1038
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: they get back, because they get more space in free

1039
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: agency because he is signed through next season for a

1040
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: ten million but he is front loaded that the contract

1041
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: that they signed and going down to ten million, I

1042
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: guess makes sense for some teams to say, hey, we

1043
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: got a backup big why not?

1044
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 2: Yeah? I actually I like Bouchet. I think you're right.

1045
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 2: He has bad games and then he has really good

1046
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: games where he's seven for seven and hitting threes and

1047
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 2: he's flying all over the place and he's a difference maker,

1048
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: but definitely has fallen out of Darko's rotation. Like I said,

1049
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of trust there. This is definitely

1050
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 2: five buckets of slop. This was the worst kept secret

1051
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: in the NBA. And if you remember, I was here

1052
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: on No Dunk saying Chris Bouche can be had. Not

1053
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: that I'm reporting anything at any time, but you know,

1054
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 2: it's like the guy's out of the rotation. He can

1055
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: A team can go in get him, and I don't

1056
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: think it's gonna take a lot, like it's gonna take

1057
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 2: like you were saying, their tasks. They want to get

1058
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 2: out from under Bouchet's salary next season, which is like, yeah,

1059
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 2: ten to eleven million, let's call it that. So what's

1060
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 2: coming back Some expiring money I assume, and maybe a

1061
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 2: second round pick like it's not being it's not gonna

1062
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: be it's not gonna be sexy. Whatever comes back for Bouchet.

1063
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 2: But a team would be very smart I believe to

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00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: go and get him. I know he's been linked to

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00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: the Celtics at times. Maybe it's always tough to trade

1066
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: with a you know, a division rival. If you're the

1067
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: raps and stuff like that. You're helping them out their

1068
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 2: chances to go win a title. But I feel like

1069
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: he would be a good addition to a lot of

1070
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: squads just as a guy coming off the bench, because

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00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: he has his moments where he's like again, a difference maker.

1072
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Speaker 2: So he's gonna be traded because it's not gonna take a.

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Speaker 1: Lot, not a lot at all. I think the Raptors

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00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: would think about releasing him, in all honesty, I know

1075
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: that sounds a little crazy if they can't get anything

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00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: for him. We saw what the Basers did with Daniel

1077
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: Tice this season. They released him and then became a

1078
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Clipper and he was key for them. He

1079
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: has been key for them because he's a good player.

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00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 1: He's a lot cheaper than ten million when you release

1081
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: him and you sign him, and they just the Raptors

1082
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: just don't want to pay him next season. I think

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00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: that's what it comes down to with Chris Bouchet.

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00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 2: So I would also I would usually have thrown in

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00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: the thunder here because lots to talk about the thunder

1086
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 2: and needing more help at the center position, but they

1087
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: don't like guys that can't shoot. And Bouche, can I

1088
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: hit the three? Is that like he consistently? That's it, right,

1089
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 2: I said it. There these games where you can't miss,

1090
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 2: but it's few and far between. So I just don't

1091
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 2: think they would go aggressively for a guy like him.

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00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 2: And not that I mean they got a million picks.

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00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: They could throw a couple of second round picks or

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00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 2: one second round pick. They could get it done, but

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Speaker 2: I don't think they sort of it's not the type

1096
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 2: of mold they want usually from their guys, right, But

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00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,919
Speaker 2: some team out there will get a Bouchet. He'll be good.

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00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: He'll surprise people, because you know, unless you're watching Raptors games,

1099
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 2: probably have no idea who we're even talking about. Slim

1100
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: Duck himself. All right, Slim Duck, slop Scale, love it,

1101
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 2: love it, love it, love it. You know we're going

1102
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 2: to see more from the slop Scale here over the

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00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: coming weeks. Let's wrap this up with some tweeted The

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00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 2: Night Fun.

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00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: Read over night Wow.

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00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, two tweets. They're related, and I really just wanted

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00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 2: to get your take on them. Tests and everybody joining

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00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: us live and listening later. First tweet was from at Damon.

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00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 2: I believe Rangula Jewell. Embiid's season thirty five points, eleven

1110
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 2: point four boards, five point nine assists, one point two steals,

1111
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 2: one point nine blocks on fifty four thirty six eighty

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00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: nine shooting splits in thirty four minutes a game. The

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00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 2: season he's having is being underappreciated? Okay? Then I saw

1114
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 2: a tweet from my guy, Jared Wade retweeting it with this,

1115
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: if you win an MVP, then get punked in the playhoffs.

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00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: Nobody is going to care what you do in the

1117
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 2: following regular season may not seem fair, but it's just

1118
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 2: how it is happened to Dirk, Yiannis, Harden and even

1119
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 2: sort of Yokic. It's very tough to beat the allegations.

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00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 2: So there's two parts, two questions. Is Embeid being underappreciated

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00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 2: the season he's having, and then your thoughts on Jared

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00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: and whether you believe that's sort of just an unwritten

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00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: rule in the NBA. You win an MVP and you

1124
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: flame out in the playoffs, no one's really gonna care

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00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: all that much the next regular season until you actually

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Speaker 2: do it in a postseason run.

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Speaker 1: That absolutely should be a part of everybody's reputation. Yeah,

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00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: you're an MVP. What have you done in the playoffs?

1129
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: It's really what it comes out to, and that's fine.

1130
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: The last two years, Embiid has dropped ten points per

1131
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: game essentially in the postseason, from his regular season where

1132
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: he led the league in points into what he did

1133
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: in the postseason because he just hasn't been extremely healthy.

1134
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: He's been really really healthy in the postseason, but it

1135
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: catches up just every year for him, that's just the

1136
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: way it goes. He was going through last year because

1137
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: he wanted to win his first MVP, constantly saying, I

1138
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: want to be healthy for all eighty two games. I

1139
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: want to be healthy for all eighty two games, to

1140
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: show that he can be That played a lot, and

1141
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: then in the postseason when it came down to fourth quarters,

1142
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: at times he was still playing in most games, but

1143
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: things weren't just things weren't the same. Things just weren't incredible.

1144
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 2: He had an MVP level for a lot of moments

1145
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: and games. Yea in the postseason.

1146
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's happened. It's happened a lot in his career.

1147
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: He's gone to six playoffs, He's missed games in five

1148
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: of them, and that just sucks for him. And so

1149
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: this year it's a good thing because it's a good

1150
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: thing that he just won that MVP because now he

1151
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: can just chill out and say, all right, I can

1152
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: take some games off to be as fresh as possible.

1153
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: But the James Harden comparisons is decent. He just played

1154
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: with James Harden and that happens to Harden a lot,

1155
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: and unfortunately Embiat he's a different kind of player. He

1156
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: can take over in postseasons. But for him last year

1157
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: to go from you know, thirty five point sorry it

1158
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: was thirty three points last year to twenty three points

1159
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: and you see the percentages dropped down, and the year

1160
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: before that he dropped it's just it just doesn't make sense.

1161
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 2: You can still be absolutely odd by what he's doing

1162
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: in the regular season. I mean, these are incredible numbers

1163
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 2: that just listed there from that tweet and doing it

1164
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: in sort of limited minutes and just like just looks

1165
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 2: like money from around the free throw line with the jumper. Obviously,

1166
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 2: he's tough to officiate. I know some people hate how

1167
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: he plays the game, and he's always fallen over for

1168
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: a guy he says, oh that, but whatever, incredible incredible stats,

1169
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: you know, doing things that you know only Kareem had

1170
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 2: done right with the thirty and ten streak or whatever

1171
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: the heck it was. But at the same time, Jared's

1172
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 2: absolutely right. It's like we've we've gone through this before

1173
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 2: with other guys who've had monster MVP seasons and then

1174
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 2: you know, get clipped in a first round series or falter,

1175
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 2: you know, like Harden comes to mind, like just having

1176
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 2: like has moments but has really bad games, just doesn't

1177
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: carry his team unfortunately, like really deep. And so then

1178
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 2: when you do it again in the regular season, it's like, okay, cool,

1179
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 2: all right, you went for fifty and sixty and back

1180
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: to back game. Okay, great, let's see it come you know, April,

1181
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 2: May and June. Because it's like a certain points like

1182
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 2: we don't really care. Yeah, it's just the truth. I

1183
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 2: believe this tough to beat the allegations, as Jared said,

1184
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 2: you got to do it. You have to have your

1185
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 2: Dirk like run that he did when he finally got

1186
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 2: over the hump, or Joannis obviously carrying his team there.

1187
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 2: I mean, Harden nutty yet and b needs to do

1188
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 2: it and be just like Dirk, and Jannis needs that

1189
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: at least go into a finals type thing, if not

1190
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 2: winning the whole thing where he's the best player for

1191
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 2: those playoff months, because he hasn't been. He hasn't even

1192
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: been close to it, at least when you compare him

1193
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 2: to what he does in the regular season.

1194
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he just needs to at least go

1195
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: to the finals. That's what it comes down to, I think,

1196
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: because you brought up the Dirk one where he won

1197
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: MVP after going to the finals against the Miami Heat

1198
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: first time. Yeah, but it's because they got bounced by

1199
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors in the first round. Yeah, but

1200
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: obviously the small Ball Warriors were awesome with Baron Davis

1201
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: and friends. That's what happened. You lost the first round.

1202
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 1: You just have to be really really really really really

1203
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: really good. You have to be valuable, and so you

1204
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: have to just get deep. And he hasn't reached the

1205
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: conference finals yet, which is absurd, but it's it is

1206
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: his body and we'll see what Tyre's max he can

1207
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: do as a number one guard for the first time

1208
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: in his career in a postseason. You gotta believe in that.

1209
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: But they have to win two rounds.

1210
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 2: And we'll see if they make a move too when

1211
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 2: it comes out to the deadline. All right, Well that's

1212
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 2: the tweeting good stuff there from the guy. This a

1213
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 2: little fun conversation starter. I want to remind you that

1214
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 2: there's a new Is This Good? Podcast dropped this morning

1215
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 2: and it featured one Tray Kirby before he took off

1216
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 2: to Chicago, Matti O and JD talking with TK about well,

1217
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: a lot of things. Guys were spinning a wheel and

1218
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 2: talking about the latest fashion trends and gift baskets and

1219
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: brunch and carpets and thinking about all your friends sleeping naked,

1220
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 2: including myself.

1221
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: You sleep nude, including yourself? What do you mean?

1222
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it comes up on the podcast. But yeah,

1223
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 2: I had seen the wheel that they were going to

1224
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 2: be spinning as I was leaving the Classic Factory, and

1225
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 2: one of the options was sleeping naked. Is this good?

1226
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: I told Trey absolutely, it's good. I've slept naked for

1227
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: twenty years running.

1228
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 3: You couldn't wait to let us know you sleep?

1229
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: My god, I'm amazed people sleeping clothes. Amazed by it.

1230
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 2: But uh, anyway, it came up on the podcast. The

1231
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 2: problem now, Trey says, is now every time he does

1232
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: sleep nude, he has to think about me sleeping nude. Yeah,

1233
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 2: and he also said his dad sleeps dude. To bring

1234
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: it full circle here, Yeah, Steve Kirby also sleeps.

1235
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 3: Does he sleep nude now that he's retired though he's

1236
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 3: added the hat, maybe he's added some jamni he sleeps

1237
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 3: the hat?

1238
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, good point.

1239
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: I'm not sure little penis hat anyway, are you pro

1240
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: are you prouh sleeping nude?

1241
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 2: Or are you a boxerman or you flannels? You talk?

1242
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, my body part likes clothing. Yeah, I will say

1243
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: during during sleep, my body parts life clothing interesting.

1244
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 2: But you don't do you don't wear like a lot

1245
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: of people. I get the counter people say I wear

1246
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: clothes at night because you know, an intruder or maybe

1247
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 2: if you have kids coming in your room, like it's easy.

1248
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: You know, there is that part like if someone comes

1249
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 2: in my room with a baseball bat, give me all

1250
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 2: your money, all right, hold on, hold on, hold on,

1251
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: can you turn the light on, and so you find

1252
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 2: my pants real quick and then we can discuss this.

1253
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: So there's that issue. So I thought maybe that was

1254
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 2: that's great. I listened to the pod on the way

1255
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: in and go check out The Great Beyond the podcast

1256
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 2: before RN. Is This good?

1257
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: Katie.

1258
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 2: I listened to it on the treadmill the other day.

1259
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 2: I was in tears. I literally had to stop. I

1260
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 2: had to jump off the treadmill. I was buckled over

1261
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: because at one point JD l's we ride at John

1262
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 2: but first Circle jerk. And I'll leave it like that

1263
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 2: and you can go get the context from the actual podcast.

1264
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: I was in tears, absolutely tears. The Romans Big Circle

1265
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 2: jerk guys. Yeah, apparently according to j D's wife, or

1266
00:59:55,840 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: at least her dreams. I gotta check out is this good?

1267
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 2: TK and the Great Beyond? Before that, We're back tomorrow

1268
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 2: Taka night here in the Classic Factory, ten am Eastern.

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01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 2: Hit that leg button, Masry, subscribe and we will see

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Speaker 2: you tomorrow morning. Until then, Clipper bros, you heard it

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Speaker 2: here first, have a great time, turn up. Love you guys, awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. And remember, after hearing that Romans scoop,

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Speaker 1: I will say this, got no evidence, got no proof,

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Speaker 1: But the Greeks we're not Big Circle jerk. I got

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Speaker 1: no proof. I wanna.

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Speaker 2: Get ahead of that. Embrace the day people,