WEBVTT - Second Date Update: Crime Doesn't Pay- It Dates

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<v Speaker 1>Are you five second day? Outside of nightclubs? Where are

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<v Speaker 1>the hottest places to meet colligible singles? Question? Yoga class? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's good and hot often kidney cafes, definitely sacred people.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what about hot cat yoga. Oh, it

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<v Speaker 1>just sounds like a lot of hair sticking to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like someone's really been working those glutes. Oh now, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>downward cat please? There is there is a cat post. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not in this class. Yeah, okay. One of our listeners, Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>met a girl named Catherine recently at an unconventional place

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<v Speaker 1>to find a love interest. We'll find out where that

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<v Speaker 1>is in just a second, but first let's meet Sean.

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going, man? Good? Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you We're doing good? Yeah? I've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of feline yoga. Shot or you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere else? No, I try to avoid selne yoga. That's

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<v Speaker 1>so two years ago. Yeah, okay, So we'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>where you met this girl in just a second. But

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<v Speaker 1>tell us what's her name? First? Her name's Catherine. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard it. Yeah, So where did you end up

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<v Speaker 1>meeting Catherine? I actually met her at an animal shelter.

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<v Speaker 1>We both volunteer there. Oh that's so cute. What a

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<v Speaker 1>great way to meet someone, right. I originally started doing

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<v Speaker 1>it just because I moved to the area and I

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<v Speaker 1>knew absolutely nobody, and I just wanted to kind of get,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the neighborhood. It wasn't necessarily a ploy to

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<v Speaker 1>like meet a girl, but just kind of meet people. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like you're going to be meeting a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people at the animal shelter, never necessarily you know,

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<v Speaker 1>date well, but you do meet good people. Yeah. So wait,

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<v Speaker 1>did you get to spend a lot of time with

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<v Speaker 1>Katherine or was this the first time you had met

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<v Speaker 1>her when you guys decided to go out. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we we actually ended up on the same schedule, so

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<v Speaker 1>we were always together on it, and I was like

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<v Speaker 1>trying to impress her at one point because there's this

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of rascally dog named Barnaby. Who Barnaby, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Barnaby was kind of we got him off to kill

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<v Speaker 1>shelter list. But honestly, maybe you should have stayed on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Wait, you can't say that. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he's blind. I'm very very glad that he's not.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, oh, I get it. So wait, what

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<v Speaker 1>does Barnaby have to do with you? Impressing Catherine? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean most dogs to know to like go outside

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<v Speaker 1>or go to the lawn or something like anywhere in

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<v Speaker 1>the world is the toilet for Barnaby. And so it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of responsibility and so I have, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if chivalry is not dead, I end up have volunteered.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time she has Barnaby or I have Barnaby, I

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<v Speaker 1>clean up after him. It sounds very romantic for you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't believe it. This guy cleaned up after Barnaby. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So what did you guys end up doing? Like did

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<v Speaker 1>you ever go out on a date together? Yeah? We

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<v Speaker 1>started like kind of hanging out after our like shift

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<v Speaker 1>was up, and then just kind of chatting, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we went out. Like the first time was just for

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<v Speaker 1>a drink, but we hung out a lot after and

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<v Speaker 1>then we went out a second time kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it didn't totally counts like dinner and drinks,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was like we ordered some naptizers or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Did it feel like a date? Yeah, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we had some chemistry and I also feel like I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a decent gauge for this kind of stuff, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I know, and a five fallen in a friend zone

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<v Speaker 1>or something. I'm like, all right, Yeah, what happened was

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<v Speaker 1>is that she stopped volunteering. Oh and then so I

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't see her on the next shift. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, I can't really be like, where

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<v Speaker 1>are you, I'm not in that territory yet. And so

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<v Speaker 1>some days go by and I called her, but then

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<v Speaker 1>I like didn't leave a message. I'm like, what am

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<v Speaker 1>I in eighth grade? I just like hung up after

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but yeah, so I like called and

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<v Speaker 1>then nothing from her. So it's like I'm one and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, did something happen to her? Or I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of scratching my head. So she didn't never tell you, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really busy, I'm not going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>volunteer for the next couple of minutes. There was no nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just nothing that's interesting. What was the last interaction

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<v Speaker 1>you guys had together? Um, it was after the second

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<v Speaker 1>state and we were like in the parking lot, like

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<v Speaker 1>we both met there in our car, so we left

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<v Speaker 1>separately as well. And we planned on doing it again

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll see you at the shelter. And it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like there was going to be a continuous Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So you've tried calling her, you've tried texting her and nothing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>have you checked any of the local hot cat yoga classes?

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<v Speaker 1>She may have signed up for one. Okay, I might

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<v Speaker 1>result to that if we could don't get anywhere to

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<v Speaker 1>don Okay, Well, let's try this first. We're gonna play

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<v Speaker 1>a song, we'll come back, we'll call Katherine for you,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll try and get your second day update. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, cool, thank Okay, hold on if you're just

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<v Speaker 1>tuning in. This is a little different than the traditional

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<v Speaker 1>second date updates that we do because one of our listeners, Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>wants to call a girl named Katherine, who he met

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<v Speaker 1>while they volunteered together at an animal shelter and they

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<v Speaker 1>never went out on an official date, but they have

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<v Speaker 1>hung out a couple times after their shift. They've had

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<v Speaker 1>a few flirtatious moments together too, no kisses or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But lately Catherine stopped showing up to the

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<v Speaker 1>animal shelter altogether and stopped responding to Sean too. And

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<v Speaker 1>he does not know why, so he's emailed us in

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<v Speaker 1>the hopes that we can help. Sean. Over the last

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<v Speaker 1>few days, you must have been thinking about explanations for

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<v Speaker 1>Katherine's behavior, Like what's going through your mind? I guess

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<v Speaker 1>anything from like something completely outside of me happened is

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<v Speaker 1>like a natural idea, Okay, or I did something that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm completely unaware of. You think that maybe that dog

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<v Speaker 1>Barnaby got jealous, he moved in with her and told

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<v Speaker 1>her some lies about you. That's where the term dirty

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<v Speaker 1>dog comes from. Barnaby, Did you dirty Barnaby? Yeah? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we can figure this out for you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like you're a really nice guy and you

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<v Speaker 1>guys had something. I think we did, but something something

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<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily a love connection, but it was something

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<v Speaker 1>trainsfer shelters. Sticking with hope right now, Jeffrey, Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to call her. Are you ready to do this, Sean?

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<v Speaker 1>I am, okay, all right, I'm dialing her number right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go. Hello, Hi, I'm looking for Catherine. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Katherine. Who is this? Hi Katherine. My name is

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey from the radio show Brook and Jeffrey in the morning. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Brooke and Jeffrey. Hi Catherine, we're all on the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a listener. Um, not really, so I'm not well confuse.

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<v Speaker 1>What's happening right now? Well, you're very friendly. Appreciate that

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<v Speaker 1>we do a segment on our show called a second

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<v Speaker 1>Date Update. Are you familiar with that at all? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've heard about it. It okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>we'll take that well, just to freshen up your memory.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a segment that we do where if you go

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<v Speaker 1>out with someone and afterwards, if that person doesn't call

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<v Speaker 1>you back, then you can email our show to reach

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<v Speaker 1>out to that person for you to help you figure

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<v Speaker 1>out the reason why. I really haven't been on any dates.

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<v Speaker 1>So the guy who emailed us admits that you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily ever go on an official date, but you have

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<v Speaker 1>spent a lot of time together with him at the

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<v Speaker 1>animal shelter. Oh talking about Sean. Yeah, yeah, Sean emailed

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<v Speaker 1>us because he said that he's had a really nice

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<v Speaker 1>time getting to know you over the last few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>when you've been volunteering together and you've had a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of nice hangouts, but you've kind of ghosted from the

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<v Speaker 1>shelter and from Sean, and he doesn't understand why it's

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<v Speaker 1>so weird that he contacted you about this. Well, to

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<v Speaker 1>be fair, he tried to call you, but you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>answer a returnity of his text messages. Yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 1>to say, I mean, look, there's no pressure here. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to grill you or anything. But Sean felt

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<v Speaker 1>like he had a connection with you. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you ever got the vibe from hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>with him that he kind of likes you, But that's

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<v Speaker 1>what he feels. And he was hoping to see you

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<v Speaker 1>again and you haven't shown up. Yeah, I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna show up again. But it's not Sean who

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<v Speaker 1>did anything in particular. Um, it's okay. Are you in

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship and maybe you know it wasn't cheating. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys didn't do anything together. I mean, maybe you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>realize that he was expecting more of a romantic connection

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<v Speaker 1>or something. No, I'm single. Oh is it Barnaby? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you move in with Barnaby? How do you know about Barnaby?

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<v Speaker 1>Who doesn't know about Barnaby? Everybody knows Barnaby, naughty dog.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's he's true, he's infamous. Yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like a little embarrassing on my part, Like this whole situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been going to therapy and I've been really trying

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<v Speaker 1>to own everything in my life and my choices. Part

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<v Speaker 1>of doing this segment is it's a judgment free zone,

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<v Speaker 1>like you can tell us whatever. Well, okay, in serious

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<v Speaker 1>a judgment free zone. Sometimes the judgment slips through, but

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<v Speaker 1>you should feel comfortable telling us and that we won't

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<v Speaker 1>treat you like you're a bad person. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the thing is is that you are. You sound delightful.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean sounds really nice and respectful, and he just wants

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<v Speaker 1>to know why you're not calling him back. All right. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just that I went to court the other day

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't have to do my community theories anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's why I haven't been at the animals out

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<v Speaker 1>there because it was court man, David, Oh you're a criminal. Okay, sorry, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>judgment judgment free zone has been before. What did you

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<v Speaker 1>get in trouble for? It's not like super serious. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they call it stalking more or less call it stalking. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Sean was probably hoping for shoplifting, but who

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<v Speaker 1>are you stalking? It was like an ex boyfriend. We

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<v Speaker 1>kind of had it falling out. He kind of went

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<v Speaker 1>a little crazy, thinking I was trying to stalk him.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he went crazy. I mean it's in the path.

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<v Speaker 1>They're still restraining her against me, but you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>moved past it. I don't really see it as anything like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't plan to come within six hundred feet of him.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm here moving out of my life. I'd serve

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<v Speaker 1>my community. So yeah, that's good. I think it's commendable.

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<v Speaker 1>You're willing to change. Yeah, And I think you know

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<v Speaker 1>who else hopefully thinks it's commendable is Sean. Because Sean's

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<v Speaker 1>been on the other line listening and he heard everything

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<v Speaker 1>that you just said. Sean. You there, um, yeah, yeah, okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's everything's fine. What do you think, Sean, I just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't pegger. But she's going to therapy, so that's maybe

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<v Speaker 1>something she doesn't do anything more. It sounds it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like you're processing out loud right now. That's good. His

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<v Speaker 1>reaction is, yeah, yeah, something's happening, Catherine. There's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Sean that you reached out this way, like, this is awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I didn't realize how much you like me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean I like you too. Oh good? Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she might even show up at your work later uninvited. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not just something I wanted to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to weird you out. But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>maybe since, like I said, my therapist is really saying

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<v Speaker 1>I need to own everything and own my life and

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<v Speaker 1>my choices, and I'm working past it. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>really helping. I mean, I don't know why you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>open with this information. It seems like there might be

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like an on switch or an off switch,

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<v Speaker 1>like you either don't return anyone's calls or the exact

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<v Speaker 1>opposite hers sitting outside. I mean, I'm not like a

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<v Speaker 1>murderer or anything. I mean I feel like, hell night, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>before you pass out, dude, come on you guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>Katherine's defend and so you know, we've all been in

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<v Speaker 1>relationships where you're just in the relationship with the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>person and it brings out the worst in most women people.

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<v Speaker 1>Not everyone just gets caught. Okay, well, Alexis has a

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<v Speaker 1>different opinion, but but I think the thing is you've

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<v Speaker 1>been in an unhealthy relationship before, right, Sean, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>understand the few months of after mass where you have

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit to drink and you check up on

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<v Speaker 1>them on Instagram or something um of court ordered community service. Huh,

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't. I didn't run out on it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no warrants for my arrest, so good. That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>No warrants, and you're not going to murder anyone. Check

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<v Speaker 1>check all often done. I mean, I know, like you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I go see you, but like if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to hang out again or go on like a

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<v Speaker 1>real date. Um, I can't really go on like a

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<v Speaker 1>date right now. I'm on house arrest. But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>if you want, you just come from my house and

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<v Speaker 1>have dinner at my house. You can order take out

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<v Speaker 1>or I can cook. That's great information. But let's circle

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<v Speaker 1>back to the house arrest. Yeah, why are you on

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<v Speaker 1>house arrest? I thought you served your time. Hi, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>it's for like another misdemeanor. D they're giving me like

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<v Speaker 1>more hassle. I don't think you get house arrest for misdemeanors.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's like a little bit above a misdemeanor, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's really just more of a hassle. It's like really

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<v Speaker 1>an inconvenience for me. And I mean it's almost over,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like not a big deal again, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>moving past everything, all right. Well, we're on the up

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<v Speaker 1>and up. Something is happening. And that's something is me

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<v Speaker 1>asking Katherine. I know this is just a formality since

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<v Speaker 1>you already asked Sean, but I need to ask you first.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you like to go out with him one more

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<v Speaker 1>time and we'll pay for it? Stay in with him

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll pay for it. Oh that's right, Stay in

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<v Speaker 1>your house and we'll have something delivered to you. I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to you know, yeah, Like I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>really a lot of great takeout spots around me. So

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<v Speaker 1>I love this? All right? You gotta yes, Sean? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you still up for this? The house arrest thing puts

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<v Speaker 1>like an interesting little wrinkle in this. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>getting over the community service and that took a few minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>and now there's another layer. I do like that if

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<v Speaker 1>I came over that I could leave and you couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>follow me. I mean, she's allowed conjugal visits, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>a positive. Is it weird that the thing that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>most scared about is that the ankle bracelet is temporary.

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<v Speaker 1>You want it to be a permanent I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're into kinky things like that. I mean I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get in the rain. It sounds like you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a fun night, Sean. Yeah, I mean I guess in

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<v Speaker 1>the past i'd been a little bit more excited to

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<v Speaker 1>be invited over to a girl's place. Okay, you're waffling

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<v Speaker 1>a lot here, Sean, Yes or no? Answer the question. John,

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<v Speaker 1>It'd either yes or no. There's like no one between.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, don't make her man come on like I

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<v Speaker 1>have all the time in the world to kill guys,

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<v Speaker 1>park Cast I'm kidding, I mean kind of, but like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a wild card. Let's roll the dice and see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens, all right, and I believe you all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that sounds like it's a yes to me. It does. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>as close as we've gotten, I want you guys to

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<v Speaker 1>call me at a certain point, okay, and if I

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<v Speaker 1>don't snit up, then police over Brooke and Jeffrey in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning,