1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: Mm from grandmothers who whispered in their baby girl in 2 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: two fathers on dimly lit street corners, instructing young soldiers 3 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: to always keep their eyes open. You be queen, you 4 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: were fired. You will pass through centuries on the hands 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: of your daughters. They called you wisdom. Proverbs on the 6 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: backs of diamond eyed school children who growing into hymnals 7 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: recited by amethyst holding urban philosophers who recited neighborhood commandments 8 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: out of the windows of restored Alchemedo cheriots. To keep 9 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: the warmth of their blood. Be wise, be smart, being black, 10 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: opal brown courts, bloodstone, and prayer. Be every form of 11 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: jim se King told, scribe, scribe, told son, son, told wife, 12 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: wife told her daughter, and daughter told the ass is. 13 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: And the ancestors told me that you would come to 14 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: give wisdom. Thousands. They said you would come, dropping chain, 15 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: dropping the chain. Okay, welcome to part two of this 16 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: amazing conversation with my dear friend, Emmy nominated actress author 17 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: Yvonne Orgy. Bamboozled by Jesus is in stores now, and 18 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: you and I have been having a really expansive, decadent 19 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: conversation about loving ourselves and friendships, both the friendships that 20 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: really nourish us ways to be your full self and 21 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: friendship and also the friendships that sometimes we just have 22 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: to let kind of gracefully shed UM. And so we 23 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: were we kind of left off in our last episode together, Cliffhanger. 24 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: We were exploring you know, um, I guess really what that? 25 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: What that how we shift into more grace for ourselves 26 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: and how we shift into being able to be in 27 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: choice around our friendships. Yeah, I think for me, what's 28 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: you know? I have a friend that that always asks 29 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: what's coming up for you? I was like, don't you 30 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: theropose me? And I think what's coming up for me? 31 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: Is this is this um? In the same way that 32 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: you recognize, like everyone in every season might not be 33 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: the right uh person for you, the same could be 34 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: on the flip side, you know, giving that opportunity to 35 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: say you may not be for them, and and that 36 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: our ego went to be like, well that, I mean 37 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't walk around being a trash human being, So like, 38 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: how was that possible? But to what you said in 39 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: the first episode, you don't know what they're going like, 40 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: what what it may not be about you? Because for me, 41 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: I was very it's based right growing up, because you know, 42 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: I grew up where if things are performative, it's like 43 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: black or white, it's like a square plus B square 44 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: equal cit squared. And so it's like the evidence. It's like, well, 45 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: this is why we are withholding you know, whatever from you, 46 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: because this is evidence a you didn't do this. And 47 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: so I was always I was subconscious to you or 48 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: consciously trained to look for the evidence. There has to 49 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: be a y. You know, we can't be friends because 50 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: you did this thing to me. I have evidence proof, 51 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: And now I'm in a place where it's like we 52 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: can't be friends because something doesn't feel right. And I 53 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: actually don't want a way for evidence because I think 54 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: by the time I was for evidence, it was too late. 55 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: Like now you know it's now I was gonna be 56 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: a problem. But my I think I think in the 57 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: past I have entrusted my intuition and my spirit right 58 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: because it's just like no, I know not not no, no, 59 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: I don't think. So, you know, like other people would 60 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: be like I think this person and I was like, nah, 61 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: you just don't know that they're great because I saw 62 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: through eyes of grace. I saw through oh, that's just 63 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: down for that's what like, isn't that what what makes 64 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: people them? And time? And it's just like now I'm like, okay, 65 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: the evidence is not tangible evidence, it's spiritual and m 66 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: you and I don't have to think about how to 67 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: show up for each other because spiritually we're in you know, 68 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: in aloightnment. It's like I love it's easy, you know, 69 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: and we have a groove in in like you know, 70 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: there was one time that I was like sending you 71 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff and you you do you so graciously. 72 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: We're like, I love you so much, however, I do 73 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: not desire this this kind of information. So stop and 74 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh. And in my mind 75 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: I was like did I just offend her that I 76 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: didn't know? And I was just like I'm so sorry, 77 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: and you were like not to big deal. In this moment. 78 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: I had to honor what was coming up for me 79 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you stop and we didn't continue. You 80 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: want to eat later like it was and it was 81 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: just that like, oh, so this is possible, and it wasn't. 82 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: We had an agree disagreement. It was just like I 83 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: don't I don't desire this thing. That you are finding 84 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: out and like wanting to share and I appreciate your journey. 85 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: I've already journey through that, so stop and because it's 86 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: not in this moment, it's not good for me. And 87 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: it was like, oh, as your friend, I can honor 88 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: what you're saying and to not take it personal. And 89 00:05:54,760 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: three believe that when you say we're good, you mean it. 90 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: I've encountered what I don't like, what I is just. 91 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: What I don't like is if you say we're good, 92 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: but I noticed a ship. Come on, don't do that 93 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: because for me, I'm I'm Nigerian in this way and 94 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: that I'm like, I don't like difficult conversations, but when 95 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: I have to have them, Mam, have because I don't. 96 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: I don't also don't know how not to be. I 97 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: don't know how to move authentically knowing that like there's 98 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: something in the back of my mind like I need 99 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: to get off my chest, like it's just I can't. 100 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm not able because I'm gonna be a version of 101 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: myself that's not the full the fullness of me. And 102 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: I know and I hate inauthenticity and fakeness. I can 103 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: just take me out of it. And like we don't 104 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: do this. It's so exhausting. It is. And I think, 105 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, when I give people the ability to be 106 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: like what's up? Like she straight with me? Like that's 107 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: me mean like giving you the permission to be one 108 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: thousand with me. I mean this is happening like in 109 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: past friendships people that were like employees and whatever, and 110 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 1: I'm just like, yo, keep it a buck and they 111 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: say they are yeah, and then I'm like I believe 112 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: you because for me, I'm like with my friends, I 113 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: don't want to be discerning. I don't want to be 114 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: that's that's not that's not what I have to be discerning, 115 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: But I don't want to have to like be a 116 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: genie to discern is this real? Is this vague? And 117 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: I want to just build the mental gymnastics. I would 118 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: like to just be yes. I just I want to 119 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: I want to be in an honest space again where 120 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: I can take off the cloak because in Hollywood, in 121 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: my actual life, I gotta be dumb discerning. I gonna 122 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, does this person want me for me? 123 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: This person want when I offered? Is this person just 124 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: wants to deal? Like I gotta I gotta be double 125 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: dutching off different relationships make it easy for me. Fam 126 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: Like if I come to you and I'm like, oh, 127 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: this is the real, I want you to also be like, 128 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: this is the real and then we can figure out, Okay, 129 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: what where do we go from here? Is it good? 130 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: Is it bad? Is it in different? And so I'm 131 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: the kind of person where I'm like, I believe that 132 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: when I give the opportunity for transparency, it's reciprocated, and 133 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: I just have problems when I feel like it's not. 134 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: And I'm like, h but I did that. I did 135 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: the thing of like giving you space to occupy that. 136 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: So now I'm like, so this so here, this is 137 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: the this is the yummy piece to add to that beautiful, 138 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: beautiful um meal on the table. It's you know, we 139 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: also when we're in our transparency, I think we have 140 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: to also fully released the expectation because the transparency is 141 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: for us at the end of the day. Because I 142 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: do think, you know, and I want to preface this 143 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: by saying, sometimes people are narcissists and they have various 144 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: personality disorders and various traumas that they're maneuvering through um 145 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: and so there are some people that are actively trying 146 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: to manipulate us when we're transparent. Um, but then there's 147 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: this whole other group of people. And I think there's 148 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: a quote I love that illustrates I think this so well. 149 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: It's you know, people can only meet you as deeply 150 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: as they have met themselves. See okay, guys, first episode. 151 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'd be like that, people can only meet 152 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: you as deeply as they have met themselves. So just 153 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: because we're in a space of being able to be 154 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: in our glorious as transparency, it may depending on that 155 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: person's background, like you know, how we explore our family 156 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: structures depending on what was their quote unquote real because 157 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: real is relative depending on what was real for them. 158 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: They might think they're showing up in authenticity, but there's 159 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: so much wounding and so little self awareness or self 160 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: mastery that it still is coming out really in a 161 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: way that is not maybe as heart letter dignified as 162 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: we are giving it or would like to receive it. Yeah, 163 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: and I fully understand that because I you know, therapy, 164 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: because and said the same thing. It's like you're, like 165 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: you said, your transparency is for you, and it patch 166 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: yourself on the back to know like I'm doing the work. 167 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm doing the work, and I'm able to shed you know, 168 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: because I'm kind of I attack like therapy and self 169 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: working in the same way. I'm like, I gotta guess 170 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: three days. You know. It's like which mother was like, 171 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: that's not how this working. I'm like, you speak to 172 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: yourself that um, but it isn't like if I only 173 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: get one shot at this I want. I'm not here 174 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: to pity pad because I also know those people who 175 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: are life first, like I'm gonna be in therapy for 176 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: twenty years, and it's just like that's not the goal. 177 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: The goals to be at the tools and working process, yeah, 178 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: and like and like not use the therapies as a 179 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: crutch and like, oh I got something else for you 180 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: this week. Oh what about the stuff we were working 181 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: on the last four weeks? Like where are we in 182 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: our progress and order that? You know what I mean 183 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: because that was literally my you know, people talk about 184 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: the things the barriers to people getting help. I had 185 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: somebody who I was like, Yo, if this is what 186 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: therapy is, like, I don't want none of it because 187 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: this chip in a therapy Oh my life, oh my life, 188 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: grinding all my life. Oh her life ship been in 189 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: therapy and I'm looking at her like, so you just 190 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: don't want revelation, Like is that like you just want 191 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: so this is entertainment for you. This is like you're 192 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: going to the movies. You don't want to apply none 193 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: of them. And we quit, like my therapist says, and 194 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, well what what what do you say? But 195 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: what do you say? Damn? And I just was like 196 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: I was had such a visceral reaction that therapy because 197 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, this is this is a waste 198 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: of time. Because I also was like mad at the 199 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: therapist because like when is she gonna hold her accountable 200 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: to the change? Like you just you just happy collecting 201 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: these money, this, this check every week on too. You 202 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: don't you say you got a whole monster on your couch. 203 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: Then there's that. So I mean so I think to 204 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: your point, it's just like for me, I'm like, yo, 205 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: you can't give me new information and me act like 206 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: I mean I'm a bucket it like oh I don't know, 207 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: and then at some point the Holy Spirit gonna beat 208 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: me up like are you ready to deal with it 209 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: or you need a minute, and like you're right you're right, 210 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: You're right. Okay, cool, Like so here's here's really what 211 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm really upset. If I'm really being honest with myself, 212 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: like this is what it is. And it's just like okay, cool, 213 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: we have more information now, great, you want to go 214 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: deeper with it, and I do because I'm like, I 215 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: only got me one time, man, I only got me 216 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: one time in this one life. It got to be 217 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: the best version of it. But you know, the hurt 218 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: even in the transparency and understanding that, like yo, some 219 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: people aren't ready for that level of transparency. Some people 220 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: are still healing it. There is that hurt of but 221 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: I might have to keep I'm gonna have to move on. Yeah, 222 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have I'm gonna have to move on because 223 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: it's like I'm gonna allow you your process, but in 224 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: your process, like I also have to protect me. Yeah, yeah, 225 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: you have to make the most serving choice for you. 226 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: And that's and I think that's what hurts because and 227 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: I think to like you said, with your with your 228 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: relationship that you had to gracefully buy out of. It's 229 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: one thing if it was like this, this moment is 230 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: the thing, the catalyst, But then when you go deeper. 231 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: You're just like, yo, I'm recognizing, like you, you didn't 232 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: show you showed up in other ways that I'm now 233 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: remembering that, like the pattern, but I didn't know. I 234 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: didn't know to to something my spirit knew because it 235 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: was like but then the either the people pleasing or 236 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: the the go on to get along or the de 237 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: nihilate like but no, not them brushed it down and 238 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: I made it again about like like it was now 239 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: the onus was on me to keep the peace. The 240 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: onus was on me to be like this maybe maybe 241 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: wounds from your baths, Like I made it as opposed 242 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: to be like, hey, this came up from me and 243 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: didn't let's check it and it's it's you as it's me. 244 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: I just was like, it's not them, it's popping me. 245 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: And now I'm like, well, I'm not doing that anymore. 246 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: Whether it's you or me, I'm gonna make the choice 247 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: of what feels best right now, yeah, and or whether 248 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: it's you or me, I'm gonna be well rounded and 249 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: not even downplaying ego because if it is me, I'm 250 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: gonna check myself and be like, okay, so this was you. 251 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: But then if it's not just like, oh ah, I 252 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: see how you're moving. Okay, cool, And that's hard. It's hard. 253 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: But then the beauty of the juxtaposition is when you 254 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: find the people that you're like, I know that this 255 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: isn't me because I don't have to have these conversations 256 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: with these people, you know what I mean? And again, 257 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: it's not to just like find the people that, um, 258 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: what's the one that cater to the lowest part of you. 259 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: So there's also that it's not like these people don't 260 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: they're fine with it. And it's like, so, so you're 261 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: okay with someone being okay with the with the not 262 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: great part of you. And that's not to say that 263 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: we don't have grace, but it's just like, but are 264 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: they are they challenging you to become a better version 265 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: of you? Because people luxuriate with the people who allow 266 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: them to skate by as not their best selves. That's 267 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: different than someone giving you grace to grow. Yeah, you know, 268 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: I think I think everything that you're saying now out 269 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: one is like you're just beautifully working your process, Like 270 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: this is what we all, this is the gift we 271 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: can give ourselves in every moment. Is just I'm just 272 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: willing to observe. I'm just willing to observe myself. I'm 273 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: willing to observe this scenario and how it's unfolding. Um, 274 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: And I'm willing to honor myself by making a choice 275 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: based on my preference, my needs, my desires and being 276 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: okay okay, because for me in the past, I wasn't. 277 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't okay with it because it was like, no, 278 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: is there we to save it? Or what can I do? 279 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: And it's just about you about you. Now I'm in 280 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: the space of like, this is life of divine trust 281 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: and you know God protects you like that is one 282 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: thing that I know. You don't have any shadow of 283 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: a doubt about God. God to tax you. And you 284 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: know what it is that I'm still finding out. Remember 285 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: when I said I would trick things off. What I'm 286 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: finding out about myself now, the things that I'm like 287 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: either trying to protect me or other people from. It's 288 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: when I like, for instance, I was just like yo, 289 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: my roommate, I gotta give her my passport. I was 290 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: like yo, um, I don't want to move, Like how 291 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: a lot of Nigerians be moving anymore? Like what do 292 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: you mean the perfectionism thing, the grinding. I'm like, yo, fam, 293 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: is there a version of like doing the work and 294 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: not being exhausted? Um? Is there a version of ease 295 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: and flow to get me to the promised land? And 296 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: my fromer was like, oh wa, give me your passport 297 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,479 Speaker 1: because you're not talking like like you eat and love right, 298 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: She's like give it like she was just like and 299 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: I was like no no if. I was like, that's 300 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: been successful. I've done the Nigerian thing and and it's 301 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: worked out great for me. But I hope it's tired. Yeah, 302 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: hold that thought. We are coming right back. How does 303 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: it feel to be in this moment in time where 304 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: you have a book that celebrated and being so beautifully 305 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: received all over the world and you are walking in 306 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: this beautiful journey with Insecure and coming coming into the 307 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: space where you guys are completing that. What does that 308 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: feel like right now? How does it feel to be 309 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: in this final season of Insecure? Are you guys crying 310 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: every day? It is? It is getting more and more emotional. 311 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: It is getting more and more because it's get more real, 312 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: like this is it? And you know, this was a 313 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: challenging season of trying to do it within covid um 314 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: because it's like trying to just stay your live, stay safe, 315 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: make sure nobody gets to make sure we don't get 316 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: shut down um. And then you know, also trying to 317 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: give our baby a send off. You know, Issa and 318 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: Prentice and everybody and all the writers are just like 319 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: wanting to make sure that like this is the legacy, 320 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: like you know, the final episode, you don't you don't 321 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: want people to be disappointed, like we've been rocking with you, 322 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: and it's like you know why, you know. And so 323 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: we had our final table read and tears definitely got 324 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: shut because I think in in the in the words 325 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: that these characters were saying to each other's a little 326 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: hikey low key with we're saying to each other like 327 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: we have to, we have to we all have to 328 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: go our separate ways. I'm not ready. I am not 329 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: We're not ready. I'm not ready not either. But but 330 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, but a lot of good things, you know 331 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: what we're talking about, friendships, Like some good things have 332 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: to you have to say goodbye to some things, and 333 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: and and that's okay, Like because for what they were 334 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: in that moment, they were like, insecure is great Insecure 335 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: is great, you know, And for five seasons we've had 336 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: Sunday Nights be amazingly frustrating and fun and entertaining and 337 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: beautiful and loving and yeah, and now we're going to 338 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: move on to different things, but we'll always have that 339 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: content is forever um on file, it's on film. Yeah, 340 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like when we go 341 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: back and watch in Living Color or Girlfriends or any 342 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: of the shows that people grew up with, you know, 343 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,239 Speaker 1: fresh Friends, you go back, can the nostalgia hits you. 344 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: It's just like, man, thank god that we have these 345 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 1: episodes of Martin, you know, thank God that we have 346 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: a different world. And it's just like one thing, someone's 347 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: gonna be like, Yo, let's gonna watch season one through 348 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: Father Been Security again. Yeah, that's my show twenty years 349 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: with now and tomorrow, and I feel like we're already 350 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: we already feel that way with that show tomorrow. Yeah, 351 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: Like it's um. It's also a moment because Jay said 352 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: this and I don't want to believe it. He said 353 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: it and I was like, there's a part of me 354 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: that's sad if it's true. But he was just like, 355 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: we'll never get this again. Black people working on a 356 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: black show with black creatives in front of and behind 357 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: the scenes. And I'm like the fact that that's so 358 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: um rare in is actually problematic for me. Um and 359 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: the fact that he might be right it's also problematic 360 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: for me. But I want to hold on. I want 361 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: to believe that he's wrong, Like I want to believe that, 362 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: like if we can do it once, we can do 363 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: it again. So who got next? You know who got next? 364 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: And we know that we definitely have something special, and 365 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: you know we're trying to save at the moments right now, 366 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: Like I'm not gonna from like I would be looking 367 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: at the east to like girls me and you don't 368 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: care what's going on the last day, I'm showing up. 369 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm feeling like we end in this series together, like 370 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 1: you know, obviously our schedules are are different, um And 371 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not gonna I'm not leaving this. I'm 372 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: going to hear that's a rap a series finale rap 373 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: on Insecure, Like I'm going to hear that. So wherever 374 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: you're shooting, I'm coming. Or if we're not shooting together, 375 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: I'm showing up. We're shooting together, then that's where I'm at, 376 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: like it's he used to change my life. He's a 377 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: not only the show's changed my life, He's changed my life. Issa. 378 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: You talk about friendships. Easa remembered me at the time 379 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: where I tell her all the time I felt the 380 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: most forgotten. People were like, man, we're not worried about you. 381 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna make it. I'm like, just worry about me, please, 382 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: Oh it's hungry. And she remembered me from when she 383 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: would see me do stand up like around town or 384 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: like host the African fashion shows and supported when first 385 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: Shan came out, you know, and when I auditioned, it 386 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: was just like you know, there's there was no guarantees, 387 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: but it was just like yo, five of those jokers 388 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: and I got to be the one to play Molly 389 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: and I. And here's one thing I was I know 390 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: about myself. Sure, I'm sure there was some talent, and 391 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: you know, I write in the book about what the 392 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: producers saw in me that tipped the scale for me 393 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: to be Molly um which has been boosoling to me. 394 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: But what I know why I know I am Molly 395 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: is because more than acting, my role was to be 396 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: a support to ease of right, and that that is 397 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: a role that I wholeheartedly play. I play that position 398 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: like fiercely. What does that mean? There's there are tons 399 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: of other people that could have acted Molly and been 400 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: probably better, Like it would be a different version, right, 401 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm not holding my skills because I 402 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: think I'm I bring to her something that we can't 403 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: unsee anymore. So like I'm Molly, but my position, whether 404 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: anyone asked me to be it or not, is I 405 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: came in there and being like, yo, I gotta protect 406 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: the head. M I'm number two. She I'm writing shotgun. 407 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: This is her show. So it was never about I 408 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: got pop. I got a shot. You know what you need? 409 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: You're good yo this. Other people come on set and 410 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, not picking up the context. Clue, this 411 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: is not the time to be talking like you got 412 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: If she go down, we go down. Stop, you know 413 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: what I mean? And I think for me that was important. 414 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: That's I'm like, say what you want to say? Sure, 415 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean I got blessed from it. But like my 416 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: major role, yo, present that because how I show up 417 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: in this capacity one day, I'm mana have my own 418 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: show because someone's gonna show for me in that same capacity, 419 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: whether they whether I asked for it or not. I 420 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: so good seeds mm hmm to say it lightly, yeah, 421 00:25:55,040 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: you so epic seeds. You really do you so big 422 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: seeds and people in situations in the world and yourself. 423 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: Thank you as to you, but like a dress light 424 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: like I'm here kicking it with you and and and 425 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: being transparent and vulnerable and open with you because I'm like, 426 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: that's you, admit that and I I I rocks with 427 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: it so heavy because that's the space I desire to. Like, man, again, 428 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: if I only get one of these, I'm not I'm 429 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: not doing it with folks that I got an eggshell around. 430 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm not doing it with folks. And I'm like toxic. 431 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: Life is too short, man, Like, That's what I keep 432 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: coming back to, Like could we potentially contort and maneuver 433 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 1: ourselves and all kinds of ways for you know, what 434 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: we're imagining is the sake of others? Um sure? But 435 00:26:53,480 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: why okay? This is yeah, yeah, okay, listen, they're busy 436 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: that deep size. How I mean when you beat dropping 437 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,719 Speaker 1: nuggets on me, I'm like, okay, she's dropping all like 438 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: this dropping gems with yes, this makes absolute sense because 439 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: you've bean dropping like dripping the drip drop dropping, Okay, 440 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: all the gems and it's just like you're I remember 441 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: you said something you said verrified air. I'm like, you 442 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: talk about yourself too, because if you if you don't 443 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: give you what you give other people. Baby like this product, 444 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: open it drinking. Get high on your own supply. I 445 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: know Biggie told us not to, but get how on 446 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: your own supply because your supply is abundant and it 447 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: is rich and it is good. It's good. Thank you, friend. 448 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: I receive all of that, and I promise you I 449 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: get so high on my own supply. We're still talking 450 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: about like grace. Let's so um. This is then a 451 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: wonderful show. Um, this is an amazing show. I love 452 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: you so much. I love you so much. You are 453 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: epic in so many ways. You are you. You are 454 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: just a fantastic human being, but like just a breathtaking 455 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: friend like you really are. I'm so grateful for you. 456 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 1: Your book Bamboozled by Jesus by Yeshua is in stores 457 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: right now in all the places. You have your podcasts, 458 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: you have your show final Susan, I'm insecure. I cannot 459 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: um and whenever I whenever I miss you and I 460 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: don't see you, I just pop you on HBO and 461 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: I watch your comedy special again. I love you. I 462 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: let you tickle my soul that way. Tickle my didn't 463 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: feature husband. If you do not use the words that 464 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: deVie uses to describe me. And now I'm moving this world. 465 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: I don't want it. Keep it. I don't want it tickle. 466 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: If I don't tackle your soul, you want to share 467 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: with me partically yourself? What are we doing? Get out 468 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: of here? I love your friend. Thank you for blessing 469 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: us on the show today. Thank you, m M You're 470 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: the best, bah bah bah as always everyone, thank you 471 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: for listening, Thank you for rocking with the show. Go 472 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: ahead and drop that very abundant, beautifully worded review with 473 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: the five stars and the app store. Um and share 474 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: this with a friend. Let's really expand the way that 475 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: we hold space for ourselves and the way we hold 476 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: space for our friendships. Um, and a little soul work 477 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: that may feel good. Gleaned from this episode is maybe 478 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: spend a little time today or when you get a 479 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: moment um to really sit in and investigate are the 480 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: relationships in your life. Feeling nourishing, is your own relationship 481 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: with your self feeling nourishing? And if the answer is 482 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: not a resounding yes, s us to explore, explore why not, 483 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: and explore what possibilities may be available to you, What 484 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: what choices you can make, Be a little choosy with 485 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: your life, choosy love. So all right, let you guys 486 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: please