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Welcome 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:05.319 to Open Championship Week and our latest podcast with Jeff Ogilvie. 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.280 In this episode, Jeff and I talk about how track 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:13.200 man has changed this generation of golf swings, improving at 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:15.720 golf and kind of how difficult it is at the 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:20.319 professional level, his experience playing in the Open Championship and 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:24.960 what he expects from this year's Championship, and much more so. 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:28.040 A great episode. If you haven't checked out our pro 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:31.880 shop in the recent times, be sure to go over there. 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.240 It's at Thefrida egg dot com. 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When 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.040 I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.080 And when I find my ball in a fried egg 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:25.560 Frida Egg, the dreaded Frida Egg Friday, Frida fridagg bride 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:26.000 egg Lie. 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:52.640 I'm about ready to run off the golf course. They 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:57.160 should get one of those Rolex serious events somehow. 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:01.320 I thinks, and eight series of that'd be out right. 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:05.200 Just want to be the right, the coolest and it's 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:08.640 the best. Like I mean, you saw the Scottish today. 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:15.079 They pushed the start so that for American viewership, right, 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:19.120 uh huh. And it's like Australia. You get primetime viewing 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.560 in America prime time. 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:23.400 It's perfect, right, I mean everyone gets time from work 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:23.880 and watches it. 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:27.160 Golf it's perfect, right, unbelievable, And it could be the winter. 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.600 It would it would be like the perfect I know 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:35.120 they have the Dubai, but Australia would be the perfect 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.400 kickoff to the season for the European Tour. 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:40.840 Yeah, it'd be like F one, I mean the Open 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:42.360 Tours like F one, Right, they kind of just go 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.400 everywhere that wants to have a tournament. It's not America really, 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:51.000 it's almost exactly the Formula one an Australia start because 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.600 it's European winter, right, it's perfect. Start south and move 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:57.000 north like South Africa and Australia first cruise up through Asia, 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:58.000 end up in Europe. 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.560 Yeah, yeah, because that they go through Asia. Yeah, and 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.160 I mean they could. I don't know, they're going to 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.400 figure out how to do the Middle East because that's 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:07.720 obviously where all the money is. 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:12.200 But there's there's no shoulds in what I mean, it's 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:17.120 just do whatever. But there's certainly Australia is a powerful, 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.280 good enough golf country with good enough courses and a 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:21.479 good enough country to visit to have one or two 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:22.680 like real tournaments, you know. 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:29.640 Yeah, yeah, you you watch any of the that Wolf 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:30.680 Marikawa thing. 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:34.800 I just wanted to highlights. I was we went out 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:37.600 doing something or something. It comes on really morning for us. 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:41.279 I watched the highlights. I mean pretty pretty impressive. I mean, 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.400 Wolf has been I watched him play. He was down 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:49.279 here Master of the Amateurs. Yeah, he played Royal Melbourne. 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:56.360 This is January maybe is that when that's on January? Yeah? Anyway, Yeah, 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:58.600 it's pretty legit. He hits it really well. I mean 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:00.200 the guys on tour have been talking about how he 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:01.640 hits it for the last year and a half because 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:03.800 he's a Gigi Swing Tips guy and he's always on 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:08.640 the Instagram and like we'd all heard of him. Didn't disappoint. 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:13.320 They don't disappoint anymore, do they these kids now? Although 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:18.320 what happens with almost all of them is that they 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.960 often they have an unbelievable first eighteen months and then 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:23.839 they kind of come back to reality for a while, 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.200 and it's that next run if they're going to be 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.160 like legit or not, you know, for a long time, 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:31.240 like Bryson outrageous when he first came out, completely lost 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.360 it for six months or whatever, and now he's one 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:34.159 of the best players in the world. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:34.400 Right. 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.839 Ryan Moore unbelievable straight away, got his card on invites, 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.240 struggled for four or five years, and gradually worked his 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.080 way back to being a great player. You know that 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.800 Jordan great start, kind of struggled. It's hard to kind 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.560 of you win your fourth or fifth of event or 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.560 whatever it is, it's hard to keep that going, you know. 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:55.000 I feel like other sports have that too, where like 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:56.839 if you have a great rookie year, a lot of 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.599 times guys have like they call it the sophomore slump. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.880 But I think Jaki Nieman just went through it too. 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.400 He was he was playing terrible at the beginning of 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.840 the year and he started he's he's been playing great 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:09.000 the last month or so. 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:14.120 It shows the value in winning. I mean, these kids 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:15.800 come out of college and I was the same. We're 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.039 all the same. You're beat up on everyone around you 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:21.479 when you're about while you're turning pro because you've beaten 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.599 up on everybody and you're just used to winning or 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.719 at least contending in every tournament as soon as you 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.000 get out there. It doesn't really matter who you're playing 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:31.920 with it first. And then after a while, like you 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.120 realize that everyone's really good and you're not winning quite 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:35.839 as often, and like kind of that shine of the 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:40.680 confidence goes away. But there's a massive advantage in like 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.479 just beating up on everyone around you at whatever level 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.440 it is, because then you move up and you just 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.040 you're used to beating up on people. 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:53.560 Yeah yeah, but yeah, and then once you have a 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:57.520 rough patch, like that's the first time and a number 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.440 of years you've probably ever felt like you're the one 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:01.360 getting beat up. 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:03.800 The first rough patch you've ever had when you have 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:07.479 your like if if Wolfe has a rough patch, it'll 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:08.800 be the first one he's had. It doesn't look like 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:14.320 he's going to I think he's his his action is extreme, 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.120 like his technique is extreme, but it's extreme at the 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.520 right end of extreme, you know. I think we'll see 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:26.080 accepted golf swing logic get changed a little bit from 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:30.600 he will. He shows you that there's another way than 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.200 like just how we've always thought, you know, and his 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:35.800 way is actually might actually be better because it's kind 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:40.120 of got built in. It's almost self correcting, you know. 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.360 I mean, he crosses the line so much that he 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.240 has to shallow on the way down or he's not 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:46.920 going to hit the ball like. It just forces a 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:49.520 great downswing, you know, And so he can hit it 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:51.200 as hard as he wants, because the harder he hits it, 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:52.680 the better it is. Kind of it's this kind of 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:54.440 interesting situation. 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:58.960 Do you see this kid, Stephen Fisk, by any chance, 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.640 he's a at Georgia Southern. He played really well in 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:04.600 the NCAA as he was like top five, but he 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:07.480 won like six or seven times this year. He has 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:11.600 the course record at a whoopie and he's got this 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.320 so they were like the consensus kind of to the 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:20.440 best players. And he doesn't like set his hands at address. 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.280 It's a crazy sweat. 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:30.920 Stephen Fisk, Like Stephen Fisk, I haven't seen it. No, 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:35.880 I mean I think I think what's happened. I mean, 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.400 you and I grew up, and I don't know if 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:39.880 we've touched on this before. I think we have a 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:43.599 little bit. But you and I grew up on the 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:47.120 video camera era. You know that led better video camera. 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:50.960 It was all about making it a lot. These guys 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:52.480 have grown up in the track man era, which is 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.160 all about making it b right. You know, it's all 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:58.160 about the numbers on the screen, the strike on the bowl, 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.160 the ball flyt. It's it's about what it should have 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.680 always been anyway, right. So but Hogan made it about 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:05.160 the ball. He didn't know what his swing looked like. 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:06.920 It was all about the ball flight, the spin and 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:08.599 how it was going and how solid it felt and 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.880 the speed and all that. That's all anyone's learning now, 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.800 these kids. So you end up with all these unique 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.600 actions because everyone's got a different way of getting the 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.080 club to the right impact, right, We all have a 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:23.880 different path to get there. Now. No one's telling us 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:25.440 that you have to take it back here and have 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:28.120 the club outside the hands and balance this and all that. 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:32.960 They're letting you find your kind of pathway to get 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.280 that great impact. So you're seeing all these unique actions, 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:37.120 but the unique actions that hit the ball really well. 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.359 I think it's a great period and technique and it's 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:44.880 opening people's eyes, like it's I saw this horrific Twitter 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:49.160 comparison of pre led better lydia COO to post led 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:52.280 better lydia co And I'm not going to completely blame 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.040 Lead on this because she was working on it just 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:56.800 like he was talking to her. But the pre swing 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.559 was so beautiful and so fluid and so great, and 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.640 the post led better one kind of looked good in 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:05.280 static pictures, but the flow was all gone and it 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:08.760 was just like, wow, what are we doing? Like I 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:11.160 think it was really fault because that's just the process 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.520 that our generation always went through. You know, you went 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.600 to a coach, you got on the camera, and you 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:17.880 you got everything all squared up and neutral and nice, 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.280 and then oh you should be able to play well now, 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:25.520 you know, it's just a I think we've it's a 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:29.280 good period for kind of getting past that vanity of 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:30.040 how it looks. 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.840 You know, well, that's a I feel like that's we 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:36.840 kind of had this and you make a great point 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:40.680 about the video camera because we lost the variety in 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:46.559 golf swings for like a twenty year period where only 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.360 like everybody like, oh, look at Jim Furic, how weird 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.240 his swing is, But that was like really the only 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.120 one it was. 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.280 And Rocko Rocco had a bit of a unique move 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:01.120 media eight and Duvar was kind of unique, but there's 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.280 they were few and far between, like and usually those 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.160 super unique guys are the ones who hit the ball 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.320 well for a long period of time. You know, Jimmy's 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.400 been probably the best ball striker on tour. Really, if 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.600 you take if distance isn't one of your measures, if 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:17.120 your measure is straight like ball flight control, move it 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.640 both in consistency. I mean, Ferrex number one in my 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:25.160 career with a swing that is kind of a different 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.040 version of what Matthew Wolf is doing. Really. I mean 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:31.760 it's it's it's way inside with deeper the hands and 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:33.800 gets way up there across the line so he has 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:35.760 to shallow on the downswing. It's a different version of 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:40.280 a similar kind of thing. And they're both crazy straight hitters, 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.400 you know, different styles, and you would never get like 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:47.040 that if you learned like you and I did you 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:48.679 know the whole leed better? Ear? I mean, I'm not 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:50.280 led better. I'll put him, but his name up the 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.280 top because he kind of, unfortunately will get picked on 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.920 in this because every coach was doing it. Just getting 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:58.760 on camera and getting this set up, ball squared and 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.240 everyone was standing in front of a mirror was like memory. 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.120 We used to get tape on the mirrors and like 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:06.240 get our setups all like that, and it's like wow, 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.680 completely detaching from what it feels like to hit the ball, 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.080 like it all became about the look of it, and 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:13.439 we all did it and we still do it a 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.360 little bit. And I woke past a mirror with a 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:17.400 golf club woul look at us, but we all do it. 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.760 I had, I had, I went, I got this lesson. 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:23.200 I went to this new instructor once I was like 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:27.400 twenty two or something, and he had me like pausing 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.720 at one spot so I knew how it felt and everything. 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.800 I went and played with my buddies and they were like, 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:39.000 what the fuck are you doing? And it was like 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:42.280 it was. They still talk to this day about that. 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.679 They're like, you remember when Andy had that like hitch 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.760 in his swing because of you know, and it was like, 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:49.960 you know, a one lesson and done, like I was. 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:51.840 I never went back to it. But it was so 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:55.079 funny because it was like the worst month of golf 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.160 I played trying to do that, you know, and it 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:00.439 was all about trying to get it to certain positions. 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:04.080 Which is comedy really because the swing is it's dynamic. 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:06.120 It's never actually not moving. If you look at the 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.640 best ball, even it's set up, Lee Trevino was walking 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.240 around and moving his feet and I mean, no one stands. 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:13.360 It's a It's a moving thing, right, So to try 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:16.720 to get static good positions seems the wrong to It's 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:21.400 like reverse engineering, you know. It's it's the wrong way 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:23.760 hit good golf if you if your focus is hitting 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:25.640 great golf shots, you'll end up having a good swing. 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:27.480 But if your focus is having a good swing, you'll 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:28.520 never hear good golf shots. 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:28.640 You know. 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.120 We're trying to reverse engineer it a little bit. Yeah, 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.240 And that seems to have turned around because I think 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.840 track Man is making us realize we're getting there's a 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:38.880 different level of vanity now. The vanity has moved on 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:42.880 to swing speed and ball ball speed and carry distant. 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:44.600 That's the vanity now have part he hit it? How 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.240 fasties swing it? No one ever asked me that question. 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.360 When I was people ask me every day, how fasty swing? 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:53.560 What's your swing speed? What's your ball speed? Now it's different. 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:59.080 It's it's interesting because like now we're we're we're worried 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.640 about the rest results rather than the process of getting 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.560 the results. And it used to be more about the 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:09.280 process and then expect good results if you go about 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:13.000 the process the way we believe is right, you know. 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:16.320 Yeah, But I think if you get really really like 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:20.160 in a good focus about results, then process takes care 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:24.840 of itself almost exactly. Yeah, for sure. And that's eapening. 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.120 And and we'll shows that, you know, well. 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:30.640 It creates more individuality because the way you get the results, 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:32.240 everybody's going to be a little. 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:36.920 Bit different, definitely. And that's for don't you think. I mean, 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:40.040 it's more fun to watch when you watch those old 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.280 when you watch old golf on TV. I mean, I 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:43.920 know this is a novelty factor, but I watch a 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:45.880 lot of old golf, so it's not like a novelty 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.120 factor for me. But the swings are just the best. 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.440 You know, some guys address it way out of the neck, 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:53.760 and some guys are way across the line and have 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.840 a little weird hitches in their swing, and everyone does 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.000 something a little bit weird, really wide stance when they 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.680 part of everyone started it. There was that period there 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.800 that kind of last twenty years where everyone was really 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:06.160 kind of trying to look the same. 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.760 I mean, look at the way Jack put putt it. 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:14.880 Why hasn't anyone else ever done that? Right? Be'st putter ever? 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.120 Like it's bizarre, Like every now I get in the 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:18.720 in front of my mirror at home or I'm like 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:20.760 I'm my carpet and I'm trying to put and I'm like, 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:22.640 that's a really good way to part, because you feel 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:25.160 like you kind of he always said, he was like 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:26.760 I felt like he was looking on a short part. 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.120 He was looking at the ball in the hole at 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.360 the same time, you know, which is kind of crazy. 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:34.400 And it feels that you get right behind It's like, 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:36.880 how do I miss especially short ones? But no one 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:38.720 does it. We all kind of stand up there neutral 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.680 like it all our lines square and straight. 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:44.120 And brace and trade. 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.360 To part like Jack did. He tried to. 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.720 Do that SATs out. I think he tried to feast the. 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:54.200 Hole Yeah, see, Bryson's impressive though. I mean Bryson Bryson 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:59.160 no stone unturned, right, and he's found his way. 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:04.200 He's like my favorite and least favorite golfer to watch 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:08.320 for various reasons. I love that he tries some new 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:12.000 stuff and that he's like, you know, always experimenting, but 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:15.480 the same token. Like sometimes I just I'm like, God, 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:17.240 you know, this is just too much. 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:22.280 I mean, he could end up like I'm sure he won't, 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:23.840 but he could end up on the back of some 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:28.160 range in palm springs, like with macogrady like and stuff 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.720 attached to him everywhere and doing some really weird stuff, right, 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:35.760 because he's at some point you can't you can't go 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:37.720 that it. There's no deeper to go, like where you're 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:40.080 gonna go. You know, you can't go any deeper than 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:43.800 the moisture content in your grooves on at seven forty 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:47.000 five in the morning at AUGUSTA or something like. At 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:48.800 some point you just got to hit golf shots, you. 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:54.720 Know, how about this? Klin Morrikaua has led his last 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:58.320 two events to two consecutive weeks. He's led the field 0:16:58.320 --> 0:16:59.480 and strokes gained approach. 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:03.800 Yeah, he seems to hit the ball really well. I 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.680 haven't actually seen him hit in the flesh. I've seen 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:07.359 I mean, I said, Matt Wolf ht it in the 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.320 flesh and he it's a hard But Maricaua seems the 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:13.240 real deal. You know what's with this cal golfers? I mean, 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:14.879 how many cal golfers have got on tour in the 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:18.600 last ten years? Tons, right, I'm Michael kim Me went. 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.440 To They're all from California. They play golf all year round, 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:22.320 they don't have winter. 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:24.240 You think that's the thing. 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.040 I think it is a little bit and they're smart. 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:28.480 You know, you gotta be smart if you. 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:32.560 Go to cal Do you think it's twenty or so 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.399 years after Tiger and Phil the two best players on 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.199 tour came out of California. Do you think that has 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.159 anything to do with in states in America or do 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:40.400 you think I. 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:43.960 Don't know, like Illinois, we've never had a great golfer. 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:46.320 Da Points is on tour. 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:51.280 Yeah, but you know, kids, kids aren't growing up saying 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.000 I want to be like d A Point. 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.800 No, No, yeah, I don't know whether it is massive, 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:59.359 right Minnesota, Wisconsin's got a cup, So I had some 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:01.919 prettyer golfer as I see, you can't blame that. I know. 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.359 Why do you explain Jerry Kelly and Steve Striga. 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:09.880 I don't know. I mean that's we've had good golfers. 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:12.560 We've got Mark Wilson, but you know, I mean even 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:16.400 there's Tom Hogy. But the how many golfers are from 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.160 California on tour? It's a lot. 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.560 Florida, California, Florida and Texas. Yeah, and Carolina's Yeah, it 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.560 is a very it's certainly. See were in Australia, we 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:27.680 don't grow up with that thing. You can play golfer anyway. 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.280 I mean generally everyone comes from Melbourne and Sydney in 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.800 Western Australia, really generally, because that's just where more the 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:37.880 people live. Wrought. But we have we have twelve month golf. 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:41.080 Really yeah, yeah, I think twelve month golf to big. 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:43.919 But then I think it can be also a disadvantage 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.200 because like you don't have any anything else, you don't 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:51.960 have perspective, You can get worn out, you know, Yeah, 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:53.480 did you take breaks. 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:59.679 A lot? Now? I'm taking my brack round now. I 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:01.640 never took prank because I was obsessed, Like I would 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:03.399 play off on Christmas Day if I was allowed to 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:05.840 get out of haus. But I didn't do it to 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:08.280 get better. I just did it because I locked playing golf, 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:11.320 Like why would I do something else? Yeah, just loved 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:12.240 it everything about it. 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:18.000 I just I was reading something. So there's this famous 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:24.000 venture capitalist who believes that, like, say, you know you've 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:28.920 got skills right as a person, you can only improve. 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:33.760 He believes two standard deviations from So, if you're really 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:37.320 bad at something m h, you can't get to like 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:39.639 being really good at it. You can only get to 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:43.840 like average, okay. But if you're really good at something, 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:48.320 you can keep improving to become like the best. So 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:52.400 his point is like, don't work on your weaknesses, work 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:56.680 on your strengths. Like, how do you go about improving 0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:59.080 when you're like one of the best players in the world. 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:03.160 Well, that's the thing, right, Has anyone ever worked that out? 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:09.880 I mean, ask Jack, because Tiger's career has been outrageous, 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:14.600 but it probably is chasing to improve from kind of that, 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:17.200 O two, kind of that next s out of six 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:19.359 or seven years, he's just still great. But it was 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:21.320 harder for him, right, Like he didn't get better, I 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.080 don't think, and he got better at maybe closing the 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:26.360 deal or something. But his physical game wasn't as good 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:28.840 in that period, and that was chasing to get better. 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:30.359 I don't know what would he've worked on. I don't know. 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:32.720 See that's the thing, like I've always had this. You 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:35.040 talk to like a Mark Brody or these stats guys 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:36.480 and they're like, oh, well, you just got to get 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:39.159 better at this. Well that's cool. I knew that I 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:41.159