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Speaker 1: actually made me mad on the internet. But Bam out

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Speaker 1: of Bio eighty three points, second most in NBA history, which,

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Speaker 1: even as fucked up as like discourse around basketball is.

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Speaker 1: I'm shocked by how this has played out since Minnie

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Speaker 1: and I had a game. Afterwards, all the little all

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Speaker 1: the middle school boys who care about basketball running around,

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Speaker 1: Bam scored eighty three?

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Speaker 2: What oh Bam?

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Speaker 1: I would have thought it was Luca like they were,

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Speaker 1: but it was like, Bam scored eighty three.

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Speaker 2: This is crazy.

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Speaker 1: And then I pulled my phone out and it's like

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Speaker 1: a bunch of Russian figure skating judges like m.

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Speaker 2: He didn't hear the.

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Speaker 1: Didn't hit the triple actual in the eighty three points

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Speaker 1: newn't new. I don't know what was your guys' reaction

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Speaker 1: to eighty three points from bab.

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Speaker 3: My reaction, My first reaction was I can't believe Bam

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Speaker 3: out of Bio fucking did it right? Like if I

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Speaker 3: think that was everyone's first initial reaction, He's what a

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Speaker 3: career like eighteen point per game guy. Not a scorer

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Speaker 3: by any chance, right, one of the greatest defensive players

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Speaker 3: in the world. But we just he just was not

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Speaker 3: on our scorecard to be the guy to break Kobe's record, Right,

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Speaker 3: Like I think we figured a guy like maybe SGA

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Speaker 3: or Luke or somebody would do that, it.

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Speaker 1: Would somehow fall for Tatum got real high.

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Speaker 3: I would have guessed ahead of right, yeah, yeah, but

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Speaker 3: it was just and I was someone who you know,

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Speaker 3: I just saw the stats to break down and I

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Speaker 3: saw like the forty three free those hoop out and

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Speaker 3: I was like, you know what exactly was going on

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Speaker 3: with that? Because Bam is not a foulbator. That's not

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Speaker 3: how he plays, right, you know, that's not what he does.

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Speaker 3: And then someone was courteous enough to post the actual

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Speaker 3: clip of all the files and those shits were legit.

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Speaker 2: Bro how the fuck out of him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bam was playing straight up basketball, the type basketball

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Speaker 3: he plays. He's a dude who just drives to the crush,

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Speaker 3: yeh Right, Like Bam was playing straight up basketball and

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Speaker 3: the Wizards couldn't do anything with him besides foul, right,

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Speaker 3: and you know, the whole discussion that's turned into oh,

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Speaker 3: this was an unethical eighty three, Like the motherfucker had

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Speaker 3: what thirty one in the first quarter? Like bro like

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Speaker 3: like yeah, and for what there is no such thing

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Speaker 3: as any ethical high scoring game.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: Whenever you reach a point where where a guy has

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Speaker 3: a hot hand, like Bam had, offenses go out the window.

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Speaker 3: It's feed this guy, you know what I mean. That's

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Speaker 3: and that's hop that's basketball one on one.

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Speaker 2: That's what for a record?

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Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, like, let's do what

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Speaker 4: we can to help him get well, he'll never get here.

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Speaker 2: Again, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And and then you know, you know, folks were

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Speaker 3: talking about how how in the fourth quarter, you know

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Speaker 3: pushing for him to break the record, and the fucking

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Speaker 3: Wizards were doing everything they could to stop it.

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Speaker 2: They were triple team in Bam office.

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Speaker 3: What happens, right, Yeah, they were triple team and I'm

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Speaker 3: off ball. They were double team in them when he

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Speaker 3: stop Bam from from from Eclipse and Kobe too, So

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Speaker 3: I don't get the whole Oh well, well, well you

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Speaker 3: know the heat I did everything they could to help

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Speaker 3: them get Yeah, that's what the fuck they should do.

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Speaker 2: And the Wizards were doing everything they could to stop it.

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Speaker 2: That's the fun thing.

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Speaker 1: That's what's fun about a Tuesday night game between the

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Speaker 1: fucking Wizards and they heat.

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Speaker 2: Is that happened? Like, that's why we watched sports. Some

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Speaker 2: cool random ship might happen.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was like, go ahead the last thing before,

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Speaker 3: and I want to say shout out to Spoke, like

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Speaker 3: we have talked before about how so many times we

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Speaker 3: get robbed from historical moments like this because coaches adhere

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Speaker 3: to that, to the unspoken rules.

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Speaker 2: The returnity.

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Speaker 3: That's what Yeah, Poe said, fuck that right said, this

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Speaker 3: is my absolutely nothing. Yeah, and I and I love.

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Speaker 3: I love his post game that he had the day after.

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Speaker 3: He was like, I don't owe anyone an apology. He said,

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Speaker 3: you want to talk unethical basketball, Talk about the Wizards

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Speaker 3: and how they were you know, trying to you know,

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Speaker 3: prevent it, talk about how they were just hacking my guy, Like,

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Speaker 3: you want to talk on ethical shit, and.

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Speaker 1: He had basketball is not ethical, it's survival. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: He had a great quote where he was like, I'm

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Speaker 3: not a basketball perist, I'm a basketball Darwinist.

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Speaker 2: I was like, God damn, this motherfucker's on fire, so

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Speaker 2: like brilliant.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and and and you know, there was the

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Speaker 3: whole Tim McMahon quote where he was like, you know,

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Speaker 3: I used to have respect for Heat Culture, but I

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Speaker 3: don't respect anyone.

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Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck top of Hea culture

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Speaker 2: were you watching?

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Speaker 3: Heat culture was never about coddling, coddling the feelings of outsiders.

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Speaker 3: Heat culture was always been about fuck everybody but us.

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Speaker 3: This was a very heat culture moment where this was

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Speaker 3: a Heat culture moment where we're supposed to I don't

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Speaker 3: give a fuck what anyone feels about this. We're getting

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Speaker 3: this guy eighty plus right. So so look, bro, I

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Speaker 3: don't have any qualms with with what band did I do.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how motherfuckers are just hating on on

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Speaker 3: eighty three. But another thing that I'm proud of is

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Speaker 3: that I am all for instances where context gets thrown

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Speaker 3: into basketball discussions, right because everyone on the planet knows

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Speaker 3: BAM is not in the same fucking stratosphere.

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Speaker 2: As Kobe is a scorer, we all know that period.

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Speaker 3: But the thing is, we would see people who would

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Speaker 3: lean on Kobe's you know, you know, eighty one to

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Speaker 3: be like, oh, he's the greatest scorer ever. No one's

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Speaker 3: he's the best basket player of all time. Just using

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Speaker 3: that singular instance to paint with a broad brush. So

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Speaker 3: now we're gonna have to have some context here, like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: well why didn't he bam outscored him?

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Speaker 2: And Bam is not the score he is.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm just I'm just a fan of

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Speaker 3: any time where context and nuance gets thrown in the

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Speaker 3: basketball discussions, because that shit is severely lacking.

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Speaker 4: And they added some context to all those highest scoring

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Speaker 4: games and showed that moments like what they were complaining

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Speaker 4: about happened in all.

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Speaker 2: Three of them. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. They

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Speaker 2: unearthed I got this on standby here.

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Speaker 3: They unearthed a fucking column the day after Wilt Chamberlain

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Speaker 3: broke a hundred where they got these posts from Will. Okay,

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Speaker 3: the quote says, the writ up says Will Chamberlain was humble.

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Speaker 3: Here's a quote heat from I couldn't have come close

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Speaker 3: without my teammate's help, because the Knicks didn't want me

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Speaker 3: to make one hundred. He was contemptuous, They were willing

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Speaker 3: to do anything to stop me, and he was supremely arrogant.

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Speaker 3: Scoring one hundred points is a lot, but I maybe

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Speaker 3: could have scored one hundred and forty if they had

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Speaker 1: So John and I talked on the phone yesterday and

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Speaker 1: my comment to him, and this is really all I

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Speaker 1: have to say, and I very much want to hear

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Speaker 1: what John and Jackson have to say. Pablo had a

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Speaker 1: guy from the Knicks who played against Will in that

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Speaker 1: game on his show Way and the guy said that

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Speaker 1: the Warriors were fouling. There's no shot clock, so the

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Speaker 1: Knicks were running a three man weave to try and

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Speaker 1: run the clock down, and Will's team was fouling them

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Speaker 1: to let them shoot so they could get the ball

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Speaker 1: back to Will. That's how records happen. Think of how

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Speaker 1: many players are playing, how many games, This is the one,

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Speaker 1: two and three most points scored. Ever you're tracking, field

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Speaker 1: record is always going to have a one point nine

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Speaker 1: win for someone or a physical freak. It's always going

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Speaker 1: to be the right circumstances and something extreme or it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be a record. There's sports where this stuff matters,

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Speaker 1: more like basketball and baseball, but like football, look at

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Speaker 1: go look at single game records, because really, to break

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Speaker 1: the single game rushing record, you could do it. I

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Speaker 1: think on three rushes, like if you had three ninety

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Speaker 1: eight yard touchdowns. It's always something fluky and weird. Basketball

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Speaker 1: just requires a consistency to where you don't usually see it.

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Speaker 1: But I'll be totally honest as a fan of Kobe.

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Speaker 1: Kobe is not Wilt Chamberlain as a score Wilt Chamberlain

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Speaker 1: could have averaged ninety points a game if he played

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Speaker 1: unethical basketball, Like these dudes, are you need something weird

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Speaker 1: to happen to reach a mark that everyone's trying to reach,

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Speaker 1: and pretending that that didn't happen with Wilt because we

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Speaker 1: were all fucking pre birth before that is fucking idiotic.

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Speaker 2: It was even more dramatic in the Wilt Chamberlain one

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Speaker 2: hundred point game, Wilts.

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Speaker 4: Just to speak to what you said, Wilt's rookie season,

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Speaker 4: he averaged thirty eight a game rookie season.

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Speaker 2: They played one year with the the What the.

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Speaker 4: Globetrotters or whatever, you know what I mean, and then kah,

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Speaker 4: but he averaged thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: He could have done whatever the fuck he wanted to

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Speaker 2: on are you say you saying? So what you said

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Speaker 2: is a fact.

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Speaker 4: He could average ninety if he wanted to, but god

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Speaker 4: go ahead.

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Speaker 2: He had a fifteen twenty five season bro in fact.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, like my nigga, like like you know anyway.

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Speaker 2: But for me, it's like.

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Speaker 4: When I look at this, I'm like, we talk about

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Speaker 4: how much the game has changed, how fucking weird are

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Speaker 4: fans now, it's not just the game. People are fucking weird.

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Speaker 4: I think it's some number you have to get away from.

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Speaker 2: Just ethical. I think it's eighty three fucking points.

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Speaker 4: We can say, you know what I'm saying objectively, that's

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Speaker 4: fucking amazing. It's say, hey, you fucking nerds, Okay, eighty

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Speaker 4: three points is okay to say it ethical?

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Speaker 5: Hoop, shut the fuck up. A nigga just got eighty

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Speaker 5: three points. Nigga, go to your motherfucking summer league or

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Speaker 5: church league and try to put up forty nigga against

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Speaker 5: some fucking bombs.

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Speaker 2: You don't have the fucking energy to put forth to

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Speaker 2: get that.

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Speaker 5: Hit let alone eighty three fucking points, which are about

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Speaker 5: forty three free throws. How about the other team not

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Speaker 5: file the fuck out of them