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Speaker 1: NFL Draft coming up. We have a couple of analysts
Speaker 1: who are going to join us. And once this happens,
Speaker 1: it feels like there's a snowball effect that happens, and
Speaker 1: it's every year and it goes from week to week
Speaker 1: where the analyst insiders scounts, they will dissect one player
Speaker 1: and that player right now is Shador Sanders. Now cam
Speaker 1: Ward's going to go through this, You're probably going to
Speaker 1: get Travis Hunter going through this. That's when they start
Speaker 1: to pick apart these players. And right now with Shadoor Sanders,
Speaker 1: he's on the clock. There's a report that he was
Speaker 1: called arrogant and brash after an interview at the NFL Combine. Now,
Speaker 1: once again, this is open to interpretation. What is arrogant
Speaker 1: to you? Could be cocky to me, confident to me,
Speaker 1: brash to you, same thing. And I think that there
Speaker 1: is a growing concern. Now I can't speak for all
Speaker 1: of these players, but those who got nil and Shadoor
Speaker 1: Sanders got nil in Colorado, that they come in already entitled,
Speaker 1: that maybe they're spoiled a little bit, They've gotten their
Speaker 1: money already, and maybe there's preferential treatment that they got
Speaker 1: and they expect that when they get to the pros.
Speaker 1: Whether that's true or not, it's in the eye of
Speaker 1: the beholder. It's open to interpretation. But Shadoor Sanders hasn't
Speaker 1: thrown a football, hasn't played a game in a couple
Speaker 1: of months. But you're starting to get the feeling and
Speaker 1: I don't want to say smear campaign, but it does
Speaker 1: feel like you start to pileong and sometimes you know
Speaker 1: the insiders are following insiders and they want to make
Speaker 1: sure that they don't miss on this, and it you know,
Speaker 1: it's an echo chamber. It's a circle. Now you start
Speaker 1: to hear, hey, nobody's sold necessarily on should Or Sanders
Speaker 1: being a first round draft pick.
Speaker 2: I'm like, where did that come from? That was quick?
Speaker 2: Is he a first round?
Speaker 1: We have an analyst on later on who will tell
Speaker 1: you why he thinks shud Or Sanders might not go
Speaker 1: in the first round. If you're not going to take
Speaker 1: somebody because they're arrogant or brash instead of their abilities,
Speaker 1: then I would really have questions about you and how
Speaker 1: you You know, you're assessing talent at that position. Teams
Speaker 1: are always looking for their quarterback and if he is
Speaker 1: that quarterback Now I said yesterday, I don't know what
Speaker 1: he's great at.
Speaker 2: I know he's tough.
Speaker 1: I know that the family tree certainly going to be talented.
Speaker 1: He's not athletic, overly athletic. That was the thing that
Speaker 1: surprises me the most about him. I think today's quarterback
Speaker 1: has to be able to extend plays. Can he be
Speaker 1: a Russell Wilson type player? Maybe? But now you're starting
Speaker 1: to look at people looking at Shadel Sanders saying all right,
Speaker 1: what's so special? They might do the same with cam Warden.
Speaker 1: I mean I watched cam Ward play at three different
Speaker 1: schools he won.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't look at him and go, that's a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 1: I just thought he's really good. And that's the tricky
Speaker 1: part when you're trying to look and assess talent to
Speaker 1: go to the next level. Who has it and who doesn't?
Speaker 1: Why does that guy have it and that guy does it?
Speaker 1: That guy's so much more talented, But that guy knows
Speaker 1: how to play. And that's where these general managers and
Speaker 1: scouts their reputation, their jobs around the line of being
Speaker 1: able to assess that position. And it's an inexact science.
Speaker 1: It has been and will continue to be. Are you
Speaker 1: a leader? Do you want to be a leader? Do
Speaker 1: you want to put in the time? You know, Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray won at every level. He was great, dynamic, But
Speaker 1: then does he want to be the leader? Does he
Speaker 1: want to put in the time or does he just
Speaker 1: football came easy to him, He didn't have to work
Speaker 1: at it. Lamar Jackson wonderful MVP and has made himself
Speaker 1: a better passer. Josh Allen has made himself a better quarterback.
Speaker 1: You know, you can go down through history of those
Speaker 1: who made themselves better when they got to the NFL.
Speaker 1: I just worry sometimes with nil you might have players
Speaker 1: who are already treated as pros. They get to the
Speaker 1: pros and maybe not putting in the time they need
Speaker 1: to to be great. And I don't care what sport.
Speaker 1: Give me the player who continues to want to get better.
Speaker 1: And look no further than Michael Jordan. Jordan added to
Speaker 1: his game every year, and there's the greatest player of
Speaker 1: all time. I don't care who it is. Are you
Speaker 1: adding not subtracting? And it's a long winded way of saying.
Speaker 1: With should or Sanders, it feels like he's the guy
Speaker 1: under the microscope right now, and you're starting to hear
Speaker 1: people are now saying things out loud that they may
Speaker 1: have thought. And this could be about Dion, you know,
Speaker 1: and maybe should or Sanders is arrogant or brash. The
Speaker 1: NFL will humble you. The NFL will humble you. This
Speaker 1: could be other agents like let's this is business, okay.
Speaker 1: And this is the tricky part when you're trying to
Speaker 1: get information. Every year, I say this to you, I
Speaker 1: have two people that I've trusted for over twenty five years,
Speaker 1: and I still trust them. They don't have agendas. Even
Speaker 1: if they have an agenda, they would tell me that
Speaker 1: they had an agenda on a certain player or a
Speaker 1: certain team. But this could be agents trying to get
Speaker 1: their client up.
Speaker 2: It happens.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a team that wants to get Shador Sanders. Later, Hey,
Speaker 1: you know, I hear he's arrogant man. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: know if these gms react that way, they go, you
Speaker 1: know what, on second thought, maybe we don't take him now.
Speaker 1: Gms do stupid things, But I don't know if it
Speaker 1: comes down to that. But it kind of struck me.
Speaker 1: Here's should or Sanders, and then next week it'll be
Speaker 1: somebody else, and the week after that. It feels like
Speaker 1: each week leading up to the draft, this is what's
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Speaker 1: poll question we have today?
Speaker 3: Well, we could start right there with the pre draft rumors.
Speaker 3: What percentage of pre draft news do you actually believe
Speaker 3: your options could be one hundred percent, seventy five, fifty
Speaker 3: or twenty five percent.
Speaker 1: I'm probably a fifty to fifty guy, but there's part
Speaker 1: of me that wants to believe seventy five percent of
Speaker 1: it because it's far more interesting.
Speaker 2: Like I want to be entertained with this.
Speaker 1: I hate to be like I gotta tell people that
Speaker 1: this isn't true, you know, but then there's part of
Speaker 1: you like it'd be fun if it was true, but
Speaker 1: it's not.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of these stories that come out, like
Speaker 3: right as soon as I saw that Shador Sanders, see
Speaker 3: it's got a little bit of an attitude.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, here we go.
Speaker 3: Okay, well let's see what quarterback benefits from Shador Sanders dropping.
Speaker 1: Jackson Dark? Does Jalen Row? Does cam Ward? By all
Speaker 1: accounts and more definitely does cam Ward. I think he's
Speaker 1: already the number one quarterback to be taken. I think
Speaker 1: that feels almost universal.
Speaker 2: Now. Could things change at a pro day?
Speaker 1: Sure when they start to nitpick, Sure, but it felt
Speaker 1: like and the reports out of Indianapolis cam Ward.
Speaker 2: Now he didn't throw it.
Speaker 1: I think he threw to one of his teammates, but
Speaker 1: that was to get his teammate ready to you know,
Speaker 1: go in some passing drill.
Speaker 2: It was unselfish. He's there to help other people. Yes,
Speaker 2: got it.
Speaker 3: That's a team player. Yes, that's so selfless, so selfless.
Speaker 3: But Shdor Sanders was a hype guy. He was hyping
Speaker 3: up Will Howard at Ohio State. He came to his
Speaker 3: defense workout.
Speaker 1: Uh well, but you know, once again, what one guy
Speaker 1: is doing and another guy could be doing.
Speaker 2: But we interpreted completely differently.
Speaker 1: And with cam Ward, once again, I don't know what
Speaker 1: he does great, and that's usually where I start. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a quarterback, what do you do great? He's really
Speaker 1: good at the line of scrimmage. He's really good arm strength,
Speaker 1: he can throw to the numbers okay, s capability, durability, Okay,
Speaker 1: like you can check off the you know, check the
Speaker 1: boxes here. It's like Josh Allen saw him in college
Speaker 1: his junior year, saw him his senior year, and then
Speaker 1: saw him his first year in Buffalo, and I didn't
Speaker 1: think that he was a franchise quarterback. But he made
Speaker 1: himself better and that's another thing you want. I want
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray to want to be great, not I'm already great.
Speaker 1: I don't need to know you're good. You need to
Speaker 1: be great. You got to put in the time to
Speaker 1: be great. That's what I want out of Kyler Murray. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it always feels.
Speaker 3: Like a lot of these things too, these kind of reports,
Speaker 3: there's something that's not like quantifiable, you know, it's not
Speaker 3: something that you could put on tape and be like,
Speaker 3: see that's what I'm talking about right there, like we're
Speaker 3: he just kind of little arrogant, kind of rubbed me
Speaker 3: the wrong way, Like okay.
Speaker 1: Well, only if I saw the interviews, because that's what
Speaker 1: these scouts, these GMS coaches, they experience an interview with you,
Speaker 1: and I think that's where at least one coach came
Speaker 1: away with the he's arrogant in brash, and that's all
Speaker 1: it takes.
Speaker 2: It's one.
Speaker 1: Now, if you're an NFL insider reporter, you got something.
Speaker 1: Now you got to report, and now maybe you could
Speaker 1: ask another coach or another GM, hey did you experience this?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Well, and there are other accounts where these coaches and
Speaker 1: GMS are saying we didn't experience that now, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: shud Or Sanders doesn't want to go to your team.
Speaker 1: Maybe he came off as arrogant in Brush because he
Speaker 1: may not want to go to the Cleveland Browns. But
Speaker 1: I think the dion part of this you have to
Speaker 1: you always have to factor that in. What is the motive?
Speaker 1: What's the motivation for all involved here? Raf Stock, Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe clicks, maybe to help your client. I mean there's
Speaker 1: a lot involved in this. And keep in mind the
Speaker 1: amount of money. Its business, and never lose sight of that.
Speaker 1: It's sports to us, but it's really business.
Speaker 2: Yeah, polling.
Speaker 5: It's interesting how the words can change. If he was
Speaker 5: considered confident, that's a great word. That's positive. Cocky is
Speaker 5: somewhere between positive and negative. Arrogant is negative. It goes
Speaker 5: like a sliding scale, Brash. I was looking at this
Speaker 5: story and I saw that PFF has Shdor Sanders sliding
Speaker 5: to the end or out of round one, which is
Speaker 5: really hard to picture. But I went back and looked.
Speaker 5: Three days before the NFL draft, Gino Smith was the
Speaker 5: number one overall pick of the draft. In multiple mock drafts,
Speaker 5: he went in the second round. I found two mock
Speaker 5: drafts from the year. Will Levis came out of Kentucky.
Speaker 5: Within twenty four hours of the draft, he was in
Speaker 5: the top five fifteen of three different high end mock drafts.
Speaker 5: He dropped completely out of the first round. It's happened before. Yeah,
Speaker 5: not comping to should our Sanda's just the coverage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is what happens when the real professionals
Speaker 1: see the tape, Like now, this is we watch during
Speaker 1: the season and then but the scouts aren't breaking down
Speaker 1: these players. The gms are worried about their teams playing
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Then you get this. Now they go
Speaker 1: into the lab and now you really start to break
Speaker 1: down a player. How healthy is he, how many games
Speaker 1: did he play? How many did he start? Like you
Speaker 1: start to look and go, okay, what are the pluses?
Speaker 1: What are the minuses? But you don't do it publicly.
Speaker 1: We do it publicly. You know, Mel Kipro have a
Speaker 1: mock draft, you know, ready when the season ends. But
Speaker 1: Mel's not in the meeting rooms. Now you can talk
Speaker 1: to people. I talk to people, but that's their opinion.
Speaker 1: And that's the tricky part with this. So this is
Speaker 1: when the real people are doing big boy things and
Speaker 1: not somebody who's looking from afar and going, man, that
Speaker 1: guy's unbelievable. Okay, but it doesn't mean it. You know
Speaker 1: Christian Hackenberg, you remember him at Penn State. Oh, if
Speaker 1: you came out now, I'd be the number one overall pick.
Speaker 1: Then what happened Josh Rosen Man? That guy franchise quarterback? Okay,
Speaker 1: we do this every year and we continue, we repeat.
Speaker 1: You know, you'll hype somebody, but you know, once again,
Speaker 1: it's not a true assessment of them. Now you're getting that.
Speaker 1: That's when you go, oh, this guy's got short arms.
Speaker 1: He probably had short arms. I don't know last year
Speaker 1: during the season, I don't know if they got shorter.
Speaker 1: Now you're here, this guy could drop out of the
Speaker 1: top ten. You got short arms. I'm like, uh, as
Speaker 1: any always had short arms?
Speaker 6: Yes, DoD And like you're referring to with clicks being
Speaker 6: one of the possibilities, if you're a reporter and everyone's
Speaker 6: in love with a certain person, you feel like it's
Speaker 6: incumbent upon you to be that one naysayer. I'm going
Speaker 6: to have the column that says something different than everyone
Speaker 6: else has.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you want it to be true. Hopefully it's
Speaker 1: true of what you're reporting. Once again, all you have
Speaker 1: to do is say, you know what I heard. I
Speaker 1: heard from an assistant coach. Source said, hey, this guy
Speaker 1: is this You're going to take me to court like
Speaker 1: you know you're going to do. I have to give
Speaker 1: up my sources.
Speaker 6: Well you're not even naming the team. You can't even
Speaker 6: remotely trace it to anything.
Speaker 1: Yes, but that's why you know, when people say they
Speaker 1: have sources, I'm always usually you have a source when
Speaker 1: they say, oh, you know source is close to me, Okay,
Speaker 1: I got I'm a little curious skeptical because there are
Speaker 1: a lot of people that all you have to do
Speaker 1: is say I got a source and I got to report.
Speaker 2: What are you going to do about it? Nothing? I
Speaker 2: could do that right now.
Speaker 1: With shud Or Sanders, I can say I got a source,
Speaker 1: said he was unbelievable in those meetings. He was polite, courteous,
Speaker 1: and he ordered flowers for the assistant coach's wife. Like, okay,
Speaker 1: sometimes that happens smear campaigns. Agent talks to an insider, Hey,
Speaker 1: you do me a solid. Here it happens because where
Speaker 1: your guy is gonna go, it's money, But.
Speaker 2: Here it is we're early March. I got six more
Speaker 2: weeks to the draft.
Speaker 1: Who all right, we'll take a break, but once again
Speaker 1: we'll talk to a couple of draft analysts and get
Speaker 1: their feelings on Shador Sanders and both guys that we
Speaker 1: have on today, I don't think are very high on
Speaker 1: Shador Sanders. I'd like to know when do their opinion
Speaker 1: change or has it always been this way?
Speaker 2: So we're taking a break.
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Speaker 1: Matt Miller of The Mothership, NFL Draft analyst, friend of
Speaker 1: the show. He'll join us coming up next hour. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's high on Shador Sanders. Trevor Sikima, he's
Speaker 1: the lead draft analyst for Pro Football Focused. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's high on Shador Sanders either. Moe in Arizona, mocome,
Speaker 1: welcome back to the program, Poor.
Speaker 4: And Dan danet Okay, the first thing you ask these
Speaker 4: guys when they come on is hey, where'd you have
Speaker 4: brought pretty in the draft?
Speaker 8: Before they give you any advice.
Speaker 4: But okay, uh you're asked, you're saying Dion's kids a
Speaker 4: little kacky. You know this is Dion's kid, right, I mean,
Speaker 4: where are we going with this? I mean, if he's
Speaker 4: not cocky or not confident, arrogant, you know you think
Speaker 4: something's wrong with them. You know, I got to touch
Speaker 4: on my Lakers a little bit and it wasn't too
Speaker 4: high on JJ Reddick. But now I got to give
Speaker 4: him a little bit of cricks and playing a little
Speaker 4: bit of deep and yeah, of course he's got Luca
Speaker 4: and Lebron, but I mean they're actually playing pretty good.
Speaker 4: Last week we were in the fifth spot. Now we're
Speaker 4: number two. I think we're looking good.
Speaker 1: JJ's the same coach he was three weeks ago and
Speaker 1: they didn't have Luca. I think he's I think he's
Speaker 1: done a really good job. But this goes back to Lebron.
Speaker 1: Lebron will make this work. Now, if you're a star player,
Speaker 1: and Lebron I still think at times is a top
Speaker 1: ten player in the NBA, he has to make it work.
Speaker 1: Luca's coming to his team. It's just like Dwayne Wade
Speaker 1: made it work when Lebron came to the Miami Heat.
Speaker 2: That was Dwayne's team.
Speaker 1: He had to let Lebron think it was his team,
Speaker 1: and you know they won a championship. This is Lebron
Speaker 1: in the twilight of his career, knowing if I get
Speaker 1: another title, what that is going to mean in the
Speaker 1: bigger picture.
Speaker 2: One more title?
Speaker 1: Now, all of a sudden, I got all the records
Speaker 1: and I got one less championship than Mike. You know,
Speaker 1: you're thinking a legacy here, and here's Luca. How do
Speaker 1: I make Luca great? This is last call for a championship.
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, last call for a championship. Jimmy Butler. Whatever
Speaker 1: I need to do to make Jimmy Butler feel at home,
Speaker 1: I'm going to do. By the way, the Knicks and
Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors tonight at the Garden.
Speaker 2: Yes, Marvin, can you get tickets for us?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: Can you pause before you say that no to make
Speaker 5: us think no?
Speaker 1: No, But you can wait and see him in Brooklyn
Speaker 1: against the Nets after the Knicks game. But I don't
Speaker 1: know what it's going to cost you to just get
Speaker 1: into the garden and then get into the Barkley Center
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn to see the nets.
Speaker 2: Yes, Paul, Golden State.
Speaker 5: At the next tonight, seven thirty Eastern, I have the
Speaker 5: lowest get in price. It is section four sixteen. Roh
Speaker 5: you another has it? Row You usually goes like they do,
Speaker 5: like double m so they don't have to. All right,
Speaker 5: let's play the get in price. Okay, you would like
Speaker 5: to go first or last?
Speaker 2: Marvin, you go.
Speaker 9: Three hundred and twelve dollars.
Speaker 1: Okay, Fritzi, you want to wager guess two fifty six right.
Speaker 2: Seaton O'Connor. This is the cheapest ticket. I think that's
Speaker 2: what we've seen so far. Eighty eight dollars.
Speaker 1: Eighty eight dollars. I'm gonna go one seventy five to
Speaker 1: get in.
Speaker 5: Two hundred and sixty bucks gets you in Warriors Nicks. Okay,
Speaker 5: now two nights from now, he's in Brooklyn, Stephen Currenty.
Speaker 1: They get in price, okay, Todd, I'll start with you
Speaker 1: one twelve all right, seating fifty four dollars, I think Marvin.
Speaker 9: If it's fifty four, I'm in there. Uh, one hundred
Speaker 9: and sixty five.
Speaker 2: I'll go sixty eight dollars cheapest get in price in Brooklyn.
Speaker 5: Marvin got it on the note one sixty five. Hey,
Speaker 5: get in price fifty.
Speaker 2: Four dollars the stuff.
Speaker 9: Oh I'm there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anybody going.
Speaker 9: No, you couldn't get a sense on no.
Speaker 2: O okay, Well you can buy your own tickets.
Speaker 10: School night.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you? All right?
Speaker 1: Uh so you got Warriors at the Knicks. Thunder dropped
Speaker 1: the Rockets and Shay Gilgis had another fifty point nine.
Speaker 1: I think that's four that he's had this season. Kyrie
Speaker 1: Irving got injured on the same day, same night, the
Speaker 1: MAVs decided they're going to raise their ticket prices. This
Speaker 1: hasn't been a good month for the MAVs. The trade injuries, Kyrie,
Speaker 1: ticket prices. Anthony Davis, yikes. I think it's a sprain
Speaker 1: and knees spraining with Kyrie but limped off the floor.
Speaker 2: What a man? Now you raise ticket prices.
Speaker 1: I think the MAVs are second in attendance home attendance
Speaker 1: in the NBA.
Speaker 2: They do extremely well.
Speaker 1: I'd be curious what happens next year when there's no
Speaker 1: Luca and you've raised your ticket prices. I think the
Speaker 1: description that they gave, so they raised their season ticket
Speaker 1: prices again. I think they did this a year ago
Speaker 1: and they said that. According to the Mavericks, ongoing investments
Speaker 1: in the team and fan engagement were listed by the
Speaker 1: team as reasoning for the Priceike is fan engagement when
Speaker 1: they're outside protesting the stupid trade that you made with
Speaker 1: the Lakers. So you did a great job with that.
Speaker 1: The season ticket price increase is the second in as
Speaker 1: many off seasons in Dallas. Last season's increase for many
Speaker 1: fans more than ten percent. This time around, it's a
Speaker 1: little over eight and a half percent.
Speaker 2: Yikes.
Speaker 1: According to ESPN NBA Attendance Report, Dallas had the second
Speaker 1: highest average attendance at its home games last season, over
Speaker 1: twenty thousand each game. Since they traded Luca their six
Speaker 1: and six, they're in tenth place at thirty two and
Speaker 1: twenty nine in the Western Conference.
Speaker 5: Yes, bony most expensive least expensive average ticket price in
Speaker 5: the NBA as of the start of the season.
Speaker 2: Most expensive.
Speaker 5: Lakers Lakers are second, the Knicks are first, and buy
Speaker 5: a margin one eighty six sixty is to get in
Speaker 5: priced the Lakers one forty four. You go down, I
Speaker 5: can get you into a Blazers game for sixteen and
Speaker 5: a half bucks.
Speaker 1: I might be able to play. Yeah, yeah, Hey, I'd
Speaker 1: like to buy a ticket. Do you want to sit
Speaker 1: on the bench?
Speaker 2: Okay? Do you want to be in the layup line? Sure,
Speaker 2: I'll do that too, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5: The Pistons and the Rockets are in the bottom five
Speaker 5: of ticket prices as right now.
Speaker 2: And their playoff teams.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Cavaliers to start the season, we're in the bottom ten.
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Speaker 1: Mike and san Antonio, Hi, Mike, woulds on your mind today?
Speaker 10: Hey, good morning, Danny and Danett's love your show. First
Speaker 10: time caller. Just a total character assassination against Shador Sanders.
Speaker 10: I've watched every game of his, his post conferences after
Speaker 10: the games. Guys talented, he's articulate, he never throws anyone
Speaker 10: under the bus.
Speaker 2: He's very smart.
Speaker 10: So there's definitely a bias. This is coming out at
Speaker 10: this time, right before the draft starts and during the combine.
Speaker 2: Kid's a warrior.
Speaker 10: He can improvise. I kind of make the thing by
Speaker 10: Caleb Williams with him because the only thing I think
Speaker 10: about him is that that's along the ball a little
Speaker 10: bit long. But the guy is definitely a top ten.
Speaker 1: Well but that's what you do in college. Caleb Williams
Speaker 1: did that. They always think that you can hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on and maybe make a play. In
Speaker 1: the NFL, you can't hold on, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: make a play. You can hold on, hold on, now
Speaker 1: you better make a play. It's that extra second, half
Speaker 1: a second. You lose that in the NFL. But this
Speaker 1: is one coach who told one reporter it's not a
Speaker 1: blanket smear campaign. But I just want to know talent wise,
Speaker 1: that's all I care about. Just what is your talent?
Speaker 1: What is his talent? Is he inflated because he's Dean Sun?
Speaker 1: Is he being knocked down a peg because he's de
Speaker 1: on some like? That's what I want to know. How
Speaker 1: good are you? And I got to watch him and
Speaker 1: once again I voted for him third in the Heisman.
Speaker 1: He was tough and I want that with my quarterback.
Speaker 1: I just don't know how athletic he is. And yes,
Speaker 1: today's quarterback needs to be have some athleticism there. But
Speaker 1: I don't know why all of a sudden, Shadoor Sanders
Speaker 1: is maybe slipping out of the first round. I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened because he hasn't had his pro day.
Speaker 1: He didn't do anything at the combine except for do
Speaker 1: interviews in medicals. So what changed? Did somebody really start
Speaker 1: breaking down what they saw with his tape? And this
Speaker 1: is what scouts will do. You're not only looking at
Speaker 1: the tape. You'll call somebody and you'll say, defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: at Colorado State, Hey, what did you think they're going
Speaker 1: to If you have a relationship, they are going to
Speaker 1: give you, you know, the tea for this. They're going
Speaker 1: to give you everything that you need. They're going to say,
Speaker 1: you know what, he can't do this. We tried to
Speaker 1: get him to do this. You know what, he's so
Speaker 1: good at doing this. That's what happens. All you have
Speaker 1: a network of friends or people you can count on.
Speaker 2: I do it.
Speaker 1: If I don't know about, I can at least try
Speaker 1: to find out about. Now they're going to be breaking
Speaker 1: down a player that they may or may not take.
Speaker 1: You got to get all the information you can. And
Speaker 1: I'll go back to Ryan Leif, who went second overall
Speaker 1: on the Peyton Manning draft. And I remember running into
Speaker 1: the equipment manager at Washington State and he said, wait
Speaker 1: till you get a load of Ryan. I go, what
Speaker 1: do you mean? He goes, I wouldn't take him that high,
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, And here's a guy who's
Speaker 1: around Ryan lee for two or three years. So you're
Speaker 1: you're going to get information. You just have to make
Speaker 1: sure somebody doesn't have an agenda, that they're actually telling
Speaker 1: you the truth. And that's the tricky part now. Right now,
Speaker 1: you don't know fact from fiction at the combine. But
Speaker 1: if you trust a couple of people, that's where you
Speaker 1: can at least go okay, I at least have a
Speaker 1: solid foundation with this. But that's what I'm curious about
Speaker 1: with Shador Sanders. Timing is everything. Steven Jacksonville, Hi, Steve,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind?
Speaker 8: Hey morning, Dan?
Speaker 2: Good morning.
Speaker 8: Who you consider to be the most arrogant quarterback in
Speaker 8: the NFL in the modern era?
Speaker 1: Dan Marino was pretty arrogant. I'm you know, and it's
Speaker 1: it's you know, Tom Brady was cocky, confident. I don't
Speaker 1: think arrogant though, like Arrogan said, that's a that's a
Speaker 1: rough word.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: Marino was cocky, com it brash, loud yelling at players.
Speaker 1: You know, Brady did that. Brady's right up in a
Speaker 1: defensive player's mug. But these guys won. Brady certainly did.
Speaker 1: I want confidence at that position, but I don't want
Speaker 1: somebody to be I don't want you to be confident
Speaker 1: to the point where you're not really seeing what is
Speaker 1: real that you think you can do everything. You'll never
Speaker 1: master the position, never, and you got to go into
Speaker 1: it knowing you'll never master it. It's like golf one day,
Speaker 1: damn and then the next day it's like damn.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: We've kind of brainwashed young athletes though, into the answers
Speaker 3: they're supposed to give to the media. Like if you
Speaker 3: were to ask a quarterback right now who was projected
Speaker 3: to go in the fourth round, they say, who's the
Speaker 3: best quarterback in the draft, and they say, Mack I am.
Speaker 3: I'm never saying no man's better than me, No man's
Speaker 3: better than me. Okay, dude, but you're not the best
Speaker 3: quarterback in the draft. But this is what kids are
Speaker 3: sort of raised to think they're supposed to say.
Speaker 2: Because I like it. I like the confidence. You're right,
Speaker 2: No man, it's better than you. Clear, dude.
Speaker 3: There's a bunch of dudes in this draft that are
Speaker 3: probably better than whoever this player is.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But kids think they're supposed to give that answer, No
Speaker 3: man's better than me. I'll never say no, man's better
Speaker 3: than me, dude, that's not realistic.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure Jackson dart at Old Miss thinks he's
Speaker 1: just as good as Shud or Sanders or cam Ward
Speaker 1: played in the SEC. You know, best competition. Look at
Speaker 1: my numbers, but the scouts will tell you otherwise. You
Speaker 1: can say it, feel it, but you can't be delusional
Speaker 1: when you do it. Hey, I'm delusional sometimes with my
Speaker 1: shooting ability.
Speaker 2: Yeah sometimes.
Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, and it and it's cost me occasionally.
Speaker 1: But you know, if you're going into the draft, I
Speaker 1: want to know what your confidence level is. But I
Speaker 1: don't want you to be delusional. You know what, I'm
Speaker 1: the next Tom Brady, Easy there, easy there, Bucky, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 9: But to kind of push back with seat in a
Speaker 9: little bit, But I think there's probably guys who are
Speaker 9: fourth rounders that played against these guys in seven on
Speaker 9: seven camps that was like, wait, I played better than him.
Speaker 9: At this point, I know I can play here. Maybe
Speaker 9: I just went to a smaller school. Maybe I'd have
Speaker 9: as big as a profile as Cam or Schador or whatever. Sure,
Speaker 9: but you're right, there's some Probably there's some real delusion
Speaker 9: to some of these quarterbacks, I'm sure, because you have
Speaker 9: to be to a certain point to think you could
Speaker 9: play in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, Todd.
Speaker 6: But and to Seen's point, that's what How many guests
Speaker 6: have we had on that We asked them that question
Speaker 6: and deep down they know they're not the best in
Speaker 6: their sports or in their league, but they always say
Speaker 6: the same thing. You've got to have that mindset that
Speaker 6: you're the best, that you're okay, you have to think that.
Speaker 1: Weirdly, But is there a wrong answer if I have
Speaker 1: somebody on I say, let's say I have Jackson dart On,
Speaker 1: who's the best quarterback in the What if he said, well,
Speaker 1: certainly Cam and Shadoor they're better, and you know, Jalen
Speaker 1: Milrow is probably better. And I don't know, maybe I'm fourth.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like that would be a wrong answer.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys who are better than me.
Speaker 1: What if he said, I don't know, but I'm really
Speaker 1: confident in my abilities.
Speaker 2: That's good. Here you go. Can't go wrong with that.
Speaker 2: It's not for me to say.
Speaker 6: I let others judge who ranks.
Speaker 1: Where you go, or just say, you know what, turn
Speaker 1: on the tape, tell me what you see. I'm very
Speaker 1: confident in my abilities, but I'm not here to rank
Speaker 1: my abilities. You you're supposed to see how good I am.
Speaker 5: Yeah, pull, But also you're selling yourself when you ask
Speaker 5: that question. On the Dan Patrick Show, Jackson Dart may say,
Speaker 5: every time I go on the field, I think I'm
Speaker 5: the best player, and give that team I'm on the
Speaker 5: best chance to win well. And you know you're performing
Speaker 5: when you give your answer.
Speaker 1: But when Steph Curry, when I ask him ten years ago,
Speaker 1: who's a better offensive player? You were Lebron and he
Speaker 1: said I am, And he said it right away, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden people are like, did you
Speaker 1: hear what stuff say? He thinks he's better than Lebron? Well,
Speaker 1: he believed it. People reacted in the way that they
Speaker 1: didn't believe it. But I think he probably backed that
Speaker 1: up that maybe he is a better scorer than Lebron. Yes, well,
Speaker 1: you know, forty ninety nine points later, Lebron's the greatest score.
Speaker 2: Yes time.
Speaker 6: If Jackson Dart says I think I'm the best, is
Speaker 6: there any coach, GM or executive that would walk away
Speaker 6: from that thinking like he knows his place, he knows
Speaker 6: his you know his abilities and what he doesn't do well.
Speaker 2: I like that he thinks he's the sixth ninth quarterback.
Speaker 1: I can only say from my perspective, I would want
Speaker 1: somebody to say, you be confident, but arrogance that's not
Speaker 1: a good word.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I got to make sure that you understand. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't want an arrogant person coming into my locker room.
Speaker 1: I want a confident person coming into my locker room.
Speaker 1: You can even be cocky coming in, but once again,
Speaker 1: the NFL will humble you. It humbled everybody who's ever
Speaker 1: played the game at some point. And you can be arrogant,
Speaker 1: you can be cocky, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you get humbled.
Speaker 3: Yes, I definitely judge people based on even more stupid
Speaker 3: reasons than where they rank themselves. Like Jackson Dart had
Speaker 3: a necklace on and during the combine and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: he's out.
Speaker 2: I'm not taking him.
Speaker 3: Or one kid, for some reason, there was one quarterback
Speaker 3: who did every drill and had his hat on. He
Speaker 3: had a hat on, yeah the whole time. That's actually
Speaker 3: a backwards like baseball hat. Oh yeah, which I'm not
Speaker 3: an anti backwards baseball cap guy, but why are you
Speaker 3: wearing that during the combine? Like is that like your
Speaker 3: lucky hat? You don't fly without your lucky hat kind
Speaker 3: of thing. I was like, Ah, that guy's out, I'm
Speaker 3: not taking him.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, like a baby always wants it's blanky.
Speaker 1: So maybe that's his hattie.
Speaker 2: Oh that's good. That's what I wanted, a nice confidence
Speaker 2: starting quarterback. Binky. Don't forget your binkie in your playbook. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was keeping the hair out of his eyes
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 3: I mean, who knows, it, liesn't matter you ashamed of
Speaker 3: your haircut or something you got bad moss.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, Dan the Iteam actually looked into the hat
Speaker 5: backward situation the other day because we noticed at the
Speaker 5: podium almost all the draftees were wearing hats before they
Speaker 5: went out to the podiums. They were given Indie combine
Speaker 5: draft hats. They were just handed them, almost like when
Speaker 5: you are at the draft and they give you your hat.
Speaker 5: So it was a lot of free hats that day.
Speaker 3: Almost everybody was smart enough to not wear it, except
Speaker 3: for one guy context.
Speaker 1: And then Shudor Sanders had his on backwards, not in
Speaker 1: a little bit to the sun like it was backwards sideways.
Speaker 2: Wami can't do that. And why didn't you take him?
Speaker 2: Did you see his hat? Put the hat all the way.
Speaker 2: It's supposed to be warm.
Speaker 5: He left the sticker. He left the sticker on the bottom.
Speaker 6: It's respecting the league.
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Speaker 5: said after weeks of talking, agreement just could get put
Speaker 5: in a place. Jonathan Jones of CBS Sports reported that
Speaker 5: creative control was a sticking factor.
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Speaker 1: saying why are we allowing Belichick to do Hard Knocks
Speaker 1: chanced time and shocking.
Speaker 6: That Bill Belichick would have issues about creative control and
Speaker 6: how much is willing to relinquishing to the producers and.
Speaker 1: Directed, well, if you agree to it, like how is
Speaker 1: it pitched to you? And Bill has to know they're
Speaker 1: gonna want to be in there with conversation, you know,
Speaker 1: listening to conversations with recruits. I don't I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know what would be the oh my god, they're
Speaker 1: gonna want me to do this. I'm surprised that Bill
Speaker 1: wanted to do it in the first place. But if
Speaker 1: you're going to get publicity for you know, your new job, Okay,
Speaker 1: But I would say the NFL probably had a heavy
Speaker 1: and in this to say not so fast bill uh
Speaker 1: Eduardo in Florida.
Speaker 8: Eduardo, Welcome to the program. Good morning, mister Paderick. I
Speaker 8: wanted to address two things, one very very briefly, okay,
Speaker 8: and then get to the question of Shador Sanders.
Speaker 2: May I do that? Yes, you may, thank you very much.
Speaker 8: The first thing I wanted to it as the day
Speaker 8: before you went on vacation. I'm talking about like two
Speaker 8: and a half weeks ago, you spoke to a gentleman
Speaker 8: who was calling from Argentina.
Speaker 2: Yes, and.
Speaker 8: Having been born and raised in Argentina, I took a
Speaker 8: little bit of umbridge that you might say in his
Speaker 8: lack of description and his erroneous commentaries. Number One, they
Speaker 8: Oka Juniors stadium say it by name La Bone. That's
Speaker 8: what it's called. It is one of the most horrible
Speaker 8: STATEI into which you can ever walk. Number two, the
Speaker 8: other stadium you couldn't remember, which is the biggest one
Speaker 8: in Argentina, is a monumental where river Plate plays. And
Speaker 8: number three, the real error was that neither one of
Speaker 8: those stadii is the largest in South America. The largest
Speaker 8: stadium in South America happens to be in Brazil. It's
Speaker 8: in San Paolo. No, Yes, in San Paulo and that's
Speaker 8: where Santos do Brazili plays.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, you've made your point. Now I keep going. No,
Speaker 2: you made your point. Yeah. Is there anything else that
Speaker 2: you'd like to add, Eduardo?
Speaker 8: Only about Shudor Sanders.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right.
Speaker 8: Just before your program, I happen to turn on Peacock
Speaker 8: and apparently there was some problem with the mechanics on
Speaker 8: the CFT show. So the last seven eight ten minutes
Speaker 8: were devoted to an interview that they did with the
Speaker 8: Door Sanders at the Combine. And it is my personal
Speaker 8: opinion which is absolutely worth this, but I'll share it.
Speaker 2: We're running out of time, Eduardo.
Speaker 8: Okay, that the young man sounded very arrogant.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, EDWARDO. Spend a little too much
Speaker 1: time in the statey I.
Speaker 2: And that's the news.
Speaker 6: We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 2: And those Boca Juniors and river Plate references. Wow,