1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Brian Curtiz and I'm Doug Prisner. Here 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: are the stories we're following today. Kevin McCarthy no longer 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Speaker of the House of Representatives. Let's get to ed 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Baxter Eddie. 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, quite a day, Doug history. The vote turned out 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: to be relatively close. 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 3: The Ya's are two sixteen, the nays are two ten. 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 3: The resolution is adopted without objection. The motion to reconsider 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: is laid on the table. The office of Speaker of 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: the House of the United States House of Representatives is 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 3: hereby declared vacant. 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: Now, there was a thought that Democrats might rescue McCarthy. 13 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: Democratic Congressman Adam Schiff says the Democrats didn't vote to 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: save him because he's just plainly not trustworthy. We don't 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: feel that it's in the best interest of the country 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: to have the House of Represents continue to alert from 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: crisis to crisis. Now right wing republic and Matt Gates 18 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: has been the lightninggrod behind this movement and says nobody 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: trusts McCarthy, and. 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: McCarthy has made multiple contradictory promises, and when they all 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: came to he lost votes of people who maybe don't 22 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 3: even ideologically agree with me on everything. 23 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: Now, McCarthy before the vote said he doesn't regret any 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: decisions he's made. 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: The end of the day, keeping government open and paying 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: our troops was the right decision. 27 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 4: I stand by that decision. 28 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: So next well, electing a new speaker. Now, the last 29 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: one resembled mud wrestling, and Bloomberg's Wendy Benjaminson says, backroom 30 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: deals or what ultimately brought McCarthy down. 31 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 4: That's right. And the one backroom deal he made that 32 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 4: presumably the next person who's up for speaker will not 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 4: make is the concession to allow any one member to 34 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 4: post this motion to vacate. And that's what Matt Gates 35 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 4: demanded in return for to vote to make McCarthy the speaker. 36 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 4: And now that has come up home to rust and 37 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 4: Matt Gates has vacated him a speaker. So that was 38 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 4: a deal that you know didn't turn out so well 39 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 4: for McCarthy. 40 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: So now, if you want to put another wrinkle on 41 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: all of this, Bloomberg's Rick Davis says, McCarthy still has 42 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: cards to play. 43 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 5: It's really up to Kevin McCarthy right now, do you 44 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 5: want to be nominated to try another run for speaker 45 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 5: where you think you can get more than two hundred 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 5: and ten votes next time, or do you open it 47 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 5: up to somebody else to be nominated and see how 48 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 5: their luck fares. This is really the biggest question on 49 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 5: the floor of the House of Representatives right now. 50 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so your witnessing history. Next steps are to try 51 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: and elect a new House Speaker that will suck up 52 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: most of the energy out of the chamber until the 53 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: process is completed. Global News powered by more than twenty 54 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: seven hundred journalists and and lists over one hundred and 55 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: twenty countries, and we'll continue to have more details on 56 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: this breaking story in San Francisco. I'm Ed Baxter. This 57 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: is Bloomberg Brian. 58 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 6: It absolutely will have a lot more on this coming 59 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 6: up shortly with Henrietta Treys, managing partner and director of 60 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 6: Economic Policy at Vada Partners and get her insights. But 61 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 6: first we'll take a look at some of the other 62 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 6: top stories. Treasury yields hitting new multi year highs after 63 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 6: the government reported an unexpected increase in US job openings 64 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 6: during August. We get more here from Bloomberg's Michael McKee. 65 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 7: We've gone up in terms of job openings by six 66 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 7: hundred and ninety thousand, two over nine million. Again, that 67 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 7: is a significant increase. For the Jolts report job openings 68 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 7: and labor turnover hirings. The number of people getting hired 69 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 7: changed little, is still at about five point nine million, 70 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 7: so a very stable situation there. And then the quit 71 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 7: rate everybody's been focused on. The quit rate doesn't change 72 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 7: at all. Quits three point six million, pretty much the 73 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 7: same as the prior month, and that leaves the quit 74 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 7: rate unchanged at two point three percent. 75 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 6: Berg's Michael McKee the jump in job openings was mainly 76 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 6: driven by white. 77 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: Collar position and today's data on the labor market did 78 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: boost the case for the Fed to keep rates elevated. 79 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: We heard today from the head of the Atlanta Fed, 80 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: rafae Elbostik. He was saying rates should be held at 81 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: elevated levels for a long time as a way of 82 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: bringing inflation back down to the Fed's two percent target. 83 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: He also said he is expecting just one rate cut 84 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: being appropriate in twenty twenty four, and that would happen 85 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: sometime near the end of next year. Meantime, the head 86 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Fed, Lorettamester, was saying she would support 87 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: another rate hike. In November, we also heard from US 88 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen, and she said she's keeping an 89 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: eye on this run up in market interest rates. 90 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 8: I'm very optimistic about the US economic outlook. Short term 91 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 8: inflation is coming down in the context of an extremely 92 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 8: strong labor market. We are now engaging in a very 93 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 8: substantial program of investments to strengthen our economy. 94 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: That is US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen. Interestingly, she said 95 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: it's not a given that interest rates wilstay elevated for 96 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: a long period of time, right. 97 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 6: Well, a lot of uncertainty in the markets, and we 98 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 6: saw that with what happened to the end, the yen 99 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 6: rebounded from the weakest levels of the year with a 100 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 6: strong rally. Bloomberg's Joan Wong has the story. 101 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 9: Japan's currency reached one fifteen point one six per dollar 102 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 9: on Tuesday in New York trading. The yen then sold 103 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 9: nearly two percent in a matter of seconds to as 104 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 9: strong as one hundred and forty seven point four to 105 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 9: three per dollar. It lasts traded at around one forty nine, 106 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 9: with traders selling yen again as US yields rose to 107 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 9: the highest level since two thousand and seven. There's speculation 108 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 9: that Japanese officials were acting to slow the currency slide, 109 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 9: and official with Japan's Ministry of Finance had no comment 110 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 9: on whether Japan had intervened on the yen in Hong 111 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 9: Kong joined Wang Bloomberg Radio later. 112 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: Today, the Reserve Bank of New Zealand has a rate decision, 113 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: and the RBNZ is seen keeping rates on hold at 114 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: five and a half percent. Even so, the central bank 115 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: is also expected to keep open the option of future 116 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,559 Speaker 1: rate hikes. We have a preview from Bloomberg's Paul Allen. 117 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 10: All Twenty two economists surveyed by Bloomberg expect a hawkish 118 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 10: hold from the Reserve Bank of New Zealand. Today. Inflation 119 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 10: is trending down but still well outside the target band, 120 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 10: but growth is holding up. Revised data shows the country 121 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 10: actually dodged a shallow recession in the second quarter. A 122 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 10: hold would certainly come as a relief to the governing 123 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 10: Labor Party, with opinion polls indicating a heavy election defeat 124 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 10: and store in ten days time. Uncertainty over who forms 125 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 10: the next government may also tempt the RBNZ to wait 126 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 10: and see if changes to fiscal policy are coming, Paul 127 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 10: Allen Bloomberg radio. 128 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 6: Back in the United States, jurious election was conducted today 129 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 6: in the trial of Sam Bankman Freed, he's accused of 130 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 6: swindling billions of dollars from the crypto Exchange FTX. Tomorrow, 131 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 6: the prosecution will begin laying out its case. Here's Bloomberg's 132 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 6: Kayley lines. 133 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 11: The prosecution also will be assisted by the accounts of 134 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 11: multiple key witnesses, some of the Bankman Fried's closest associates 135 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 11: at the time all of this went down, Gary Wong, 136 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 11: who co founded FTX with him, Nishad Saying who used 137 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 11: to be ftx's head of engineering, and Caroline Ellison, who 138 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 11: was the CEO of alime To Research, the aforementioned training firm, 139 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 11: and also his ex girlfriend. All of them have already 140 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 11: pleaded guilty to federal charges and are cooperating with prosecutors, 141 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 11: so they will be able to lean on their testimony 142 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 11: on the defense side. Though Sam Bankman Freeing already leading 143 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 11: up to this trial, has said repeatedly it was never 144 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 11: his intention to commit fraud, and intention is what is 145 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 11: going to have to be proven over the course of 146 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:43,559 Speaker 11: this trial. 147 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 6: That's Bloomberg's Kayley Lines bankman. Freed has pleaded not guilty 148 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 6: to all seven charges, including fraud and conspiracy to commit 149 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 6: money laundering. I'm Brian Curtis along with Doug Christner, and 150 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 6: the big story of the day Republican Kevin McCarthy ousted 151 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 6: by this disas within his own party. Joining us now 152 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 6: is Henrietta Trees, managing partner and director of Economic Policy 153 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 6: at Veda Partners. Henrietta, thanks so much for joining us. 154 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 6: I think that's the right way to put it, that 155 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 6: he was ousted by dissidence within his own party. We 156 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 6: know that the big part of the story, as well 157 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 6: as the Democrats refusing to rescue him, and we talk 158 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 6: about that in a moment. In the short term, it 159 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 6: means that the speakership battle will begin again, and it 160 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 6: doesn't mean that Kevin McCarthy won't get the job back. 161 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 6: So how do you see that moving and is there 162 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 6: a lot of horse trading coming? 163 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 12: I think it's a very good point. The unknowns are 164 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 12: more voluminous than anybody would care to admit. I think 165 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 12: that what is plaining is that his replacement, Patrick McHenry 166 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 12: is not there of his own volition. You could see 167 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 12: that as he gabbled out this afternoon. I think Speaker 168 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 12: McCarthy would be just a glutton for punishment if you 169 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 12: tried to go for this again. More realistically, you'll see 170 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 12: representatives emerans plice either have their names thrown into the 171 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 12: ring to either be dismissed by themselves personally Scalise for example, 172 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 12: for health issues, or they will immediately sort of be 173 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 12: rejected by the far right again for being part of 174 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 12: the establishment or old guard. There are one hundred and 175 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 12: ninety six to two hundred and ten members of the 176 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 12: Republican Party who have supported Kevin McCarthy over the last 177 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 12: five days, and for many in the far right that's 178 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 12: just an untenable position for them to take. So I 179 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 12: think the effort to get to two eighteen is going 180 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 12: to be fraught, and we could easily be here for 181 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 12: weeks before we have a final speaker. 182 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Late last month, I don't need to remind you. 183 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: Moody's the only remaining major credit greater to give the 184 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: US a top rating, said confidence in the US was 185 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: wavering a bit insofar as the firm was concerned because 186 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: of their concern about governance. Where does that leave us 187 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: right now in terms of how markets have to discount 188 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: the dysfunction that we seem to be seeing. 189 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 12: I think it's a perfectly valid position at this point. 190 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 12: They do not have anything to take to any incoming 191 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 12: speaker and say this is our clear list of demands. 192 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 12: They are worried about the border, but don't know if 193 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 12: they can send border funding or border policy to a 194 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 12: piece of legislation. They're worried about Ukraine funding, but the 195 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 12: Senate Republican Conference wants all the Ukraine funding that they 196 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 12: can get. They are worried about the debt and the deficit, 197 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 12: but they're looking to trim sixty billion dollars in spending 198 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 12: this year when sixteen trillion dollars needs to actually be eliminated. 199 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 12: So I think that what's happening is you're confronting a 200 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 12: bunch of freshmen and relatively new House members who want 201 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 12: it all and don't know how to get any of it. 202 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 12: And that's effectively what the ratings agencies have called them 203 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 12: out for. 204 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 6: Let's talk for a moment about the Democrats refusing to 205 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 6: rescue McCarthy. Is that pure politics? I mean, this puts 206 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 6: the Republican Party in disarray. Some might even say chaos. 207 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 6: Is it the right thing for the country or was 208 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 6: this a move really just to get a leg up 209 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 6: on the Republicans. 210 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 12: You know, there were what five or six House Democrats 211 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 12: that didn't vote today that should have been more than 212 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 12: enough for McCarthy to work with. He got more than 213 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 12: that in the previous votes that he needed to maintain 214 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 12: the speakership or to even secure the speakership. He has 215 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 12: lost less members than that on certain key and procedural votes, 216 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 12: such as the ones on the motion to adjourn over 217 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 12: the weekend. There were plenty of Democrats that were not 218 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 12: present and voting had he been able to keep the 219 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 12: far right from eating into his caucus, So I'd have 220 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 12: a hard time ascribing blame to Democrats here. It's also 221 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 12: really hard to imagine Minority Leader Jeffries given an opportunity 222 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 12: to say, you know, go vote for another speaker, when 223 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 12: of course they have the permission and the ability to 224 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 12: vote for Jeffries, which is what we'll see from them 225 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 12: throughout next week as they start taking votes on the 226 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 12: speaker's position. 227 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: I think we can agree this rebellion was precipitated by 228 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: some of the bipartisan deals McCarthy put together one on 229 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: preventing a default on us, said the other just the 230 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: other day on government funding, which only takes us through 231 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: November seventeenth. What happens after November seventeenth. 232 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's the question. The bipartisanship is really obviously the 233 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 12: problem for the far right, but that is the math 234 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 12: that we have to work with. The Senate is controlled 235 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 12: by Democrats, so that doesn't change here. I think what 236 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 12: immediately needs to happen is we need to reassess our 237 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 12: odds or I certainly do, about what the prospect is 238 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 12: for a shutdown on November eighteenth. And I think that 239 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 12: what we need to start off with is a hope 240 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 12: at the barest level that we can get some standalone 241 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 12: appropriations bills done for perhaps defense or maybe agriculture, get 242 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 12: those buils done so that when we do face November eighteenth, 243 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 12: it's not a full shutdown. But the odds of a 244 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 12: shutdown have to start at sixty five percent or higher. 245 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 12: For my clients, I usually am at about five percent. 246 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 12: I'm very bearish on these kinds of things. I was 247 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 12: only at twenty five percent we would shut down going 248 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 12: into this weekend. Now that we're in this new world. 249 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 12: I think you have to start at least sixty five. 250 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 12: There's a strong argument to make for seventy five, and 251 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 12: I bet the street will be much higher than me 252 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 12: come Monday morning. 253 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 6: We could talk until the cows come home about this story. 254 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 6: From the inside look out, but I want to go 255 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 6: outside the United States. I look at the press out 256 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 6: here in Asia a lot for a feature that we do, 257 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 6: and oftentimes you hear people talk about American exceptionalism. Is 258 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 6: this the opposite of that? I mean, does the US 259 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 6: look somewhat in disarray with something like this? 260 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 12: We are in an exceptional state of disarray. And there's 261 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 12: a great quote that's effectively, we are a functional dysfunctional unit. 262 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 12: And I wouldn't be surprised if you hear that all 263 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 12: over the world. Now, I mean, this is the height 264 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 12: of dysfunction. And it's not even party on party, you know, 265 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 12: this is intra party fighting that we see here, and 266 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 12: these slim majorities are exactly what it makes it so 267 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 12: difficult to govern. I can imagine some of the old 268 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 12: guards coming out and saying, you know, this kind of 269 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 12: dysfunction is what keeps America, you know, and our democratic 270 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 12: rights alive. But it is obviously the kind of thing 271 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 12: you think of. If you want to say something good 272 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 12: about a dictatorship, you don't have to go through this. 273 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 12: So I wouldn't be surprised if that's the argument. I mean, 274 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 12: the disarray in the US, particularly when it has real 275 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 12: ramifications on things like at Ukraine, are understandably a big 276 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 12: concern for our allies and not so allies abroad. 277 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: So the temporary speaker now is Representative Patrick McHenry Henrietta. 278 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: Can he bring the temperature down? Do you think effectively? 279 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 12: I actually have a lot of questions about what he 280 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 12: can do. I want to know if he's capable of 281 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 12: path legislation. I want to know if he could put 282 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 12: legislation on the floor. I don't expect him to immediately 283 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 12: come in and claim the mantle of speaker. I think 284 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 12: he's going to, at least for several hours or days, 285 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 12: make it plain that he did not want this position. 286 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 12: He was on McCarthy's shortlist and is not doing this 287 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 12: of his own volition. I don't know a happy warrior 288 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 12: is quite the way to term this yet, because I 289 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 12: don't think he's very happy. But I do think that 290 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 12: he is going to be the person that's in power 291 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 12: for probably a few weeks, which will give him time 292 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 12: to secure a foothold within the conference and try to 293 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 12: unite them around him. 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