WEBVTT - Neoliberalism Part 2: The Trade World War: G7 vs G77

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<v Speaker 1>What's I mean, that's that's all I got today. Who's

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<v Speaker 1>who's taken over? Come on? It's me? I guess it's me.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well then, what what show is this? And

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<v Speaker 1>what do we do? This is it could happen here

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about things being bad and also what you

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<v Speaker 1>can do about them, But this is a this is

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<v Speaker 1>a things are bad episode, and not at what you

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<v Speaker 1>can do about the episode specifically. This is part two

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<v Speaker 1>of what I guess you could call our mini series

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<v Speaker 1>on neoliberalism. And so you know, yesterday we talked a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about who the original the liberals are. They have

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of power in Germany in the fifties, but

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<v Speaker 1>through fifties and sixties up to the seventies, they're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of nobody's there. You know, they're they're there. They have

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of think tanks, but they're kind of they're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just siloed off in the corner and they

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<v Speaker 1>yell at people and people kind of northam and what

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<v Speaker 1>they're waiting for, essentially is the right crisis, and in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen seventies they finally find that crisis. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's kind of hard to remember in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of ways because of how the eighties went. But in

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<v Speaker 1>early nineteen seventies, things are not looking good for capitalism.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you have so you know I and i

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<v Speaker 1>end wins this election nineteen seventy We'll talk about what

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<v Speaker 1>happened there in another episode. But you know it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just that in nineteen nineteen seventy four. Well, so

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<v Speaker 1>the whole early nineteen seventies, am called Carbrial is just

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely annihilating the Portuguese army. And he, you know, he wins.

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<v Speaker 1>He fights one of the like one of history's greatest

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<v Speaker 1>grilla wars, and this basically destroys the entire Portuguese state

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<v Speaker 1>and caused the Carnathan Carnation Revolution. The Portuguese colonies get free,

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<v Speaker 1>the dirt takes part in me Theiopia and the ninteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five the North Vietnam wins of the like the

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<v Speaker 1>war in Vietnam. And now you know the product of

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<v Speaker 1>this is that Compada falls, Loos falls. There's now there's

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<v Speaker 1>five social estates in Eastern East Asia, in Southeast Asia,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're also Uncle Lea, but nobody really cares about them.

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<v Speaker 1>And as as all of this is happening, as these

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<v Speaker 1>sort of as the anti colonial armies are sort of

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<v Speaker 1>marching their way through the world. There's an enormous economic crisis,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I mean there's a lot of things happening

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. One of the ones I think

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<v Speaker 1>is probably the thing, the thing that people remember the

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<v Speaker 1>most is there's just unbelievable inflation, and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>and economic growth starts to slow down. Although something I

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<v Speaker 1>think that we do need to keep in mind is

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<v Speaker 1>that when I say economic growth slows, so economic growth

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<v Speaker 1>from like sixty seven nine is um from two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>to two thousand and seven, it was two point three

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<v Speaker 1>percent in the US, And so you know, when when

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<v Speaker 1>when I say there's an economic crisis going on here,

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<v Speaker 1>like economic growth in the seventies is better than any

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<v Speaker 1>decades sense, but it's still considered the crisis decade because

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<v Speaker 1>there's much of the nation and you know, everyone has

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<v Speaker 1>their own theory as to why this is happening. Because

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<v Speaker 1>the sort of Keynesians who who have been in power,

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<v Speaker 1>whose thing is, oh, well, we can you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>there's every economic crisis, we can sort of we can

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<v Speaker 1>spend money, and that you know, then the government spending

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<v Speaker 1>money will drag everyone out of the crisis. But in

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<v Speaker 1>Keynsian theory, like there's not supposed to be inflation if

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<v Speaker 1>like if if unemployment is increasing and there's an economic crisis,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not supposed to inflation, and suddenly there's both. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Kensians have nothing and they're sort of just running

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<v Speaker 1>around like just with basically like chickens to their head

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<v Speaker 1>cut off, going oh god, we have no idea what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know what's happening. And so into this gap

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<v Speaker 1>steps a bunch of weirdos. And so I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go through a few of the theories as

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<v Speaker 1>to why this crisis happened, because I don't know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's elements of truth in most of the

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<v Speaker 1>stories ish kind of, but you know, it's this is

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<v Speaker 1>extremely complicated and there's still no consensus on it. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start with the most crank, which is so

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<v Speaker 1>so the run Paul people. The whole thing is, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>every everything went to ship has been shipped ever since

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<v Speaker 1>because the US abandon the gold standard, and like they're

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<v Speaker 1>right into the extent that this happens. So basically Nixon

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<v Speaker 1>has been trying to pay for the Vietnam War, and

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<v Speaker 1>he can't. And you know, the the US dollar has

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<v Speaker 1>been pegged to a certain amount of gold, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can do this thing where if you get it,

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<v Speaker 1>you have an American dollar, you can exchange it for

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<v Speaker 1>that amount of gold. And so travels the goal just's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just gonna we're gonna take all of this gold,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he does in the US starts running out

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<v Speaker 1>of gold and so bye bye bye. In the early seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>Nixon is like, fuck this, you can't actually exchange dollars

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<v Speaker 1>for gold anymore. And now every single libertarian starts every

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<v Speaker 1>rant with fiat currency. But you know this, this this

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<v Speaker 1>does have an effect on the economy, which we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about more in the bit um. There's you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's a lot of other explanations for this um

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<v Speaker 1>the modern monetary three people if you listen to them,

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<v Speaker 1>and also Peter Thiel. Weirdly, I will argue, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all because of the oil shock, because oil prices increased,

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<v Speaker 1>Neoliberals will spend neo liberal essentially they blame too much

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<v Speaker 1>government spending welfare programs and then wages being too high,

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<v Speaker 1>and also bad monetary policy. There's like an entire there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's like seventeen different Marxist explanations for it, some of

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<v Speaker 1>which are I'll talk about like one and a half

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<v Speaker 1>of them, um that are more plausible. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>explanations has to do with how essentially, so the other

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's happening in the sixty seventies is that minorities

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<v Speaker 1>and women are entering the workplace and are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>actually demanding to be paid the wages that white men

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<v Speaker 1>have been being paid, and corporation essentially just can't afford this,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you know that they have two choices. It's

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<v Speaker 1>either we pay these people actually ages or we just

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<v Speaker 1>murder everyone. And they took the second one. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that that has also been happening through this whole

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<v Speaker 1>period is that profit rates and manufacturing just keep collapsing.

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<v Speaker 1>And there there's there's a whole thing here about some

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<v Speaker 1>Marxist theory stuff, But the thing that's important is that

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<v Speaker 1>that and this this doesn't happen in the seventies. Eventually

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<v Speaker 1>you hit a point where manufacturing growth becomes zero sum.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, so you can have manufacturing growth in

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<v Speaker 1>one country, but you can't have it in another because

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<v Speaker 1>at a certain point you're producing too much stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>people start getting kicked out of the labor process. And

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<v Speaker 1>this has a bunch of effects. One is that it

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<v Speaker 1>means you get a bunch of people who are employed

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<v Speaker 1>and too. It means that there's just a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>money floating around that nobody can actually invest in places.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is you know, like all of the weird

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<v Speaker 1>stuff the Saudias do is just basically from this this money.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a whole there, the whole piles of oil money

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<v Speaker 1>that are just sitting around that nobody can invest in

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<v Speaker 1>any thing. And that's going to cause you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>that that that that's that's that's going to cause a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff down the road. But for now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about the dead crisis and causes sort of

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<v Speaker 1>next episode. But for now, I'm going to try to

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<v Speaker 1>pull all of these together and like have something, have

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<v Speaker 1>a coherent thing that makes sense, which is essentially but

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<v Speaker 1>by the end of the seventies, profit rate or declining,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Nixon pulls, you know, Nick Nixon pulls the

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<v Speaker 1>dollar off the gold standard, and this causes the value

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<v Speaker 1>of the dollar is plunge and this this is the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that sets off the nine oil crisis. So the

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<v Speaker 1>nay said, the oil crisis is weird because it's not

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<v Speaker 1>an oil crisis. Every everyone looks at the grill of

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<v Speaker 1>crisis and it goes, oh, it's an oil crisis. The

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<v Speaker 1>crisis because there wasn't enough oil, and it's it's not

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<v Speaker 1>it's nothing to do with that is literally nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do a supply of oil at all. What actually happens

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<v Speaker 1>is that so you have OPEC, right or PECK is

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of is the Alliance of Oil Producing cartels

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<v Speaker 1>um and they have this extremely complicated system where they

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<v Speaker 1>they sell oil to oil companies and then the oil

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<v Speaker 1>companies sell the oil, did they refine it and sell

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<v Speaker 1>it to you, and they have this incredibly convoluted tax

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<v Speaker 1>structured on it. And eventually, so the oil companies are

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<v Speaker 1>having to like the price of oil starts to rise,

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<v Speaker 1>and the oil companies are basically just taking it all off,

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<v Speaker 1>the profit from this, and so OPEC goes, okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are gonna pay taxes, and the oil companies just refuse,

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<v Speaker 1>and so OPEC just unilaterally just you know, OPEC just

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<v Speaker 1>unilaterally is like, okay, you guys are gonna pay taxes,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna make you pay taxes by by just

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<v Speaker 1>increasing the price that we sell you oil at. And

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<v Speaker 1>this gets remembered as like OPEC increasing the price of oil,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it was literally just them saying you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pay taxes. Now, this is the part that's very weird,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that, Okay, so if if you heard you

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<v Speaker 1>two heard of the oil crisis, like the story, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I are the way it's always gone in textbooks,

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<v Speaker 1>as you talk about like the stagflation of the seventies

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<v Speaker 1>and the fucking you know, lines of cars at gas

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<v Speaker 1>stations going back blocks because OPEC facory And yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>how it's always framed, is that, like there's this big

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<v Speaker 1>political crisis over OPEC that led the gas supply getting throttled,

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<v Speaker 1>and it came at a time when the economy had

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<v Speaker 1>already slowed down and everything got terrible. And then a

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<v Speaker 1>few years later we got RoboCop. Yeah, well we did

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<v Speaker 1>get a pop. But the important thing about the story

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<v Speaker 1>is that every single thing about that story is wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>every part of it. Well, I mean there were lines

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<v Speaker 1>at gas station, yeah, I mean, there are lines of

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<v Speaker 1>gas stations. But the lines at the gas stations have

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<v Speaker 1>literally nothing to do with OPEC. It's just nothing. So

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<v Speaker 1>on October six, the Arab members of of OPEC are like, fuckett,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna make the oil companies pay more for oil.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the rest of the rest of OPEC follows them.

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<v Speaker 1>Now two days later, is it yeah? The next day

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<v Speaker 1>there is a completely unrelated thing to all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that while while this is going on, the

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<v Speaker 1>yan Kapoor War starts, and so Egypt and Syria attack Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>um the basically attack the Israel occupation forces in their country,

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<v Speaker 1>and the war is going really badly for them there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's I mean, it's not going it's

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<v Speaker 1>not going as badly as like the previous wars had

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<v Speaker 1>gone for the air powers, but it's not going great.

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<v Speaker 1>And so on October six, Arab oil producing countries declare

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<v Speaker 1>if they're they're cutting the amount of oil they export

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<v Speaker 1>by five percent per month until Israel returns his territories.

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<v Speaker 1>It occupies seven and they haven't embargo on the US.

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<v Speaker 1>But and this is the very important part, this has

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with OPEC. This is not OPAQ at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not this, this is this is this is just

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of random Arab countries are like, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do this. And you know, and I think when

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's interesting about Robert, we're talking about is

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<v Speaker 1>OPEC factory. You know? Is how this gets remembered and

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<v Speaker 1>this this is one of the things that that neoliberals

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<v Speaker 1>used to sort of push their model of the world, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that everything functions office supply and demands and

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<v Speaker 1>oh look, hey the Arabs cut the supply of oil

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why the prices rose. But it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>just wrong. It's empirically wrong. The price cut happens, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the price increases happened the day before the the oil

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<v Speaker 1>the price increases the day before the embargo, and the

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<v Speaker 1>embargo and the oil price. People are different groups, they

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<v Speaker 1>have nothing to do with each other. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this this gets sort of system it like this this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is how it's it's remembered and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not even just how to remembered, like like the

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<v Speaker 1>Encyclopedia Britannica has the dates and which all of this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff happens wrong. They have the sequence of events wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>like all of the most of the people who write

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<v Speaker 1>about this remember this whole thing wrong, and and this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is part of the sort of an enormous

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<v Speaker 1>propaganda effort that and neo liberals are able to do

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<v Speaker 1>at this moment, which is they convince everyone that, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the price increases and the gag. Typically the gas shortages

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<v Speaker 1>are are are about opaque. But again also like the

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<v Speaker 1>the US only imports like seven percent of its oil

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<v Speaker 1>from from the countries who are doing the embargo at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, So the actual thing that's going on has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with price. It's it's a weird thing as

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<v Speaker 1>with price controls and gas companies are hoarding gas because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want to sell at a price control levels

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. But you know, the oil price increases,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the yeah, like it is bad, Like the

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<v Speaker 1>price of oil does go up and there are shortages,

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<v Speaker 1>but it has nothing to do with like there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the embargo, has nothing to do with,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like the supply of oil going down. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just companies didn't want to pay taxes and so they

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<v Speaker 1>started hoarding the oil instead of selling it, and they

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<v Speaker 1>passed the price the tax increase on. So the consumers

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<v Speaker 1>instead of paying it. And as we talked about before,

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<v Speaker 1>once this sort of like tax increase goes that opec

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<v Speaker 1>well some of the open countries want to do, goes

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<v Speaker 1>into place. The price of whale does increase, and this

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<v Speaker 1>does funck the economy even more. But the economy had

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<v Speaker 1>really even sort of a mess before this, and it

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<v Speaker 1>has one other very important effect that you know this

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, I guess, I guess. The theme of

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<v Speaker 1>this episode is that the oil and bargo matters. But

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<v Speaker 1>the oil and bargo matters because people think it matters,

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<v Speaker 1>not because they did anything and the other. So it

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<v Speaker 1>matters in the US because everyone thinks that, oh, the

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<v Speaker 1>scary Arab nations are coming for us. But it matters

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<v Speaker 1>in the rest of the world because everyone else looks

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<v Speaker 1>at this and goes, wait, hold on, you can actually

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<v Speaker 1>use commodities. Essentially, you can use commodity prices like countries

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<v Speaker 1>that like have raw you know, commodities can use this

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<v Speaker 1>control to actually go fight you know, to like to

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<v Speaker 1>go fight the West, to go fight the capitalists and

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<v Speaker 1>go like, you know, get money for themselves. And this

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<v Speaker 1>leads us into something Robert Garrison, if you are you

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard of the G seventies seven. Uh that like

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<v Speaker 1>the seventies seven countries that have the most money. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that that's the that's the G seven. Well yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was I was seven might be just a longer list.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah. So so this is this is the other

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<v Speaker 1>thing from this period that just is completely lost as

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<v Speaker 1>almost completely lost to history, and seventy seven is actually

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<v Speaker 1>still around. But what they are was so in the sixties,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you have all of these countries that have

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<v Speaker 1>recently gained independence, and all these countries have getting deependence

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<v Speaker 1>um from their sort of colonial overlords, and they start

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<v Speaker 1>to band together into basically a voting block in the

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<v Speaker 1>u N. And also this is the other the other

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<v Speaker 1>weird part about the story is that so in the

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<v Speaker 1>niteen seventies and sixties seventies particularly, the un actually matters

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<v Speaker 1>like it's it's it's it's a thing that people there

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<v Speaker 1>was that like twenties years after World War Two, where

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<v Speaker 1>people were maybe I mean a good example of the

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<v Speaker 1>degree to which the u N Act really used to

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<v Speaker 1>be meaningful is watch the first Street Fighter movie, um,

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<v Speaker 1>because the Good Guys and that are clearly based off

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<v Speaker 1>the u N and nobody thinks it's ridiculous that the

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<v Speaker 1>United Nations are actually doing something. Um, it's fine to

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<v Speaker 1>have Jean Claude van dam And be the leader of

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<v Speaker 1>the United Nations fist fighting a guy that that makes

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<v Speaker 1>total sense in the nineteen nineties, and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>so and part of how about this war next episode?

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<v Speaker 1>But basically, so, the reason the UN is a joke

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<v Speaker 1>right now is because of what the US was doing

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<v Speaker 1>to stop that G seventy seven from doing anything. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I would argue that fail massive failures in Rwanda and

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<v Speaker 1>uh Bosnia had a huge impact on that. A couple

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<v Speaker 1>of genocides go down and people are like, well, what

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<v Speaker 1>are these guys doing? But yeah, yeah, well this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is how they got dysfunctional to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where you can get that yeah, which is so

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<v Speaker 1>so okay. So you have you know, and a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of coaches that call themselves, you know, the term they

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<v Speaker 1>used for themselves is the third World, and they come

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<v Speaker 1>together the form of this group and it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a really weird ideological mixed bag, like I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>have you know, you have you have like actual socialists

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<v Speaker 1>like tensan years and Michael Borele and Jamaica. You've also

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<v Speaker 1>got like Gaddaffi and the Bathists and like was a

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<v Speaker 1>socialist come on Paradise ka Libya. You know, okay, my my,

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<v Speaker 1>my my, My most contrarian hot take is that Salak

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<v Speaker 1>Jaded was like actually kind of an mL who was

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<v Speaker 1>that he was? He was briefly the Bathist in charge

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<v Speaker 1>of Syria and then he got overthrown by But both

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<v Speaker 1>of them, there's there's definite like actual like Marxist, you know, Linen,

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<v Speaker 1>there's something like especially in the old school Bathists, like

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<v Speaker 1>there were aspects of that. There was socialism kind of

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<v Speaker 1>within it. It just it would be nonsense like for example,

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<v Speaker 1>called Saddam Hussein's baths. Yeah yeah, and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can't red see like this is this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is a real grab back and you have

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<v Speaker 1>there's also just a bunch of random Latin American countries,

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<v Speaker 1>like none of whom you can call socialist. And then

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<v Speaker 1>there's also Saudi Arabia and Thailand or in this group.

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<v Speaker 1>To get a sense of how fractus this is, India

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<v Speaker 1>and Pakistan are also both part of this, and they

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<v Speaker 1>fight too full scale wars while they're both in the

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<v Speaker 1>G seventies seven. Actually that's not true. There's two full

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<v Speaker 1>scale wars and then there's like another half war they

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<v Speaker 1>fight in the nineties. This yeah, like all all of

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<v Speaker 1>the people in this thing are fighting, are literally fighting

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<v Speaker 1>wars against each other. It's kind of a mess, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's fun. It's fun. In in the mid

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<v Speaker 1>sixties and until likeeen seventy four, it's kind of their

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<v Speaker 1>Their whole thing is we have moral authority like where yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like where you know where We're like we we we

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<v Speaker 1>we have the authority of all of these nations have

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<v Speaker 1>colonized us for a long time, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>use that. But in the seventies, you know that the

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<v Speaker 1>oil embarko happens, and a lot like most i think

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<v Speaker 1>all most of the OPEC states are are are are

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<v Speaker 1>in um are are in the G and they look

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<v Speaker 1>at they look at the oil embargo and they look

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<v Speaker 1>at OPEC raising prices and they go, wait, we can

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<v Speaker 1>do this too. And the OPEC states are like, oh, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we can use this to push the hood, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we can use like push the whole power of like

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<v Speaker 1>of the Third world. And they they they're planned to do.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something called the New International Economic Order, which

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<v Speaker 1>is also something that no one has ever heard of

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<v Speaker 1>that is extremely important that as just so, the spoilerler

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<v Speaker 1>is that this this movement gets crushed so thoroughly that

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<v Speaker 1>nobody knows what the new Economic order is and the

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<v Speaker 1>Third World is now a slur. But you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that they're trying to do is create a new

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<v Speaker 1>It calls the New International Economic Order a trade union

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<v Speaker 1>of the poor. And so it's it's this thing they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get passed through the u N that would

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just designed to sort of ensure the economic

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<v Speaker 1>sovereignty of these developing nations. Um and I'm gonna read

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<v Speaker 1>a list of the stuff that's in here. Um So.

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<v Speaker 1>A an absolute right of states to control the extraction

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<v Speaker 1>and marketing of their domestic natural resources. Be the establishment

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<v Speaker 1>and recognition of state man managed resource cartels to stabilize

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<v Speaker 1>and raise commodity prices. See the regulation of transnational Corporations

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<v Speaker 1>D no strings attached technology transfers from north to south. E.

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<v Speaker 1>The granting of preferential trade preferences to countries in the south,

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<v Speaker 1>and f forgiveness for for certain debts that states in

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<v Speaker 1>the South, Oh to the north. So this is like

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<v Speaker 1>the act, this thing, if the International Economic Order had

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<v Speaker 1>ever been implemented at all, it would have completely reversed

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<v Speaker 1>the basically completely reverse the balance of economic power, shifting

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<v Speaker 1>it basically from countries like the US, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Western Europe, like Japan that are these giant manufacturing powerhouses,

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<v Speaker 1>two countries that produce you know, raw materials, and there

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<v Speaker 1>would have you know, and the other thing that would

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<v Speaker 1>have happened from this is you have these the no streams,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a debt relief for the global South, and

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<v Speaker 1>also these technology transfers. And the plan is basically to

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<v Speaker 1>create a bunch of mini opex for just not even

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<v Speaker 1>mini opus, create opex basically for every commodity. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have like an opaque, but it's for like box

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<v Speaker 1>site or like copper, and you know they would use

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<v Speaker 1>they would you know, you have all these opex and

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<v Speaker 1>each one of them uses their power and they all

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<v Speaker 1>cooperate to to to make sure that there's a stable

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<v Speaker 1>price for for all of these commodities. And another part

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<v Speaker 1>of this is that it's supposed to basically enshrine the

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<v Speaker 1>right of countries to be able to just like nationalized

0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:47.040
<v Speaker 1>resource companies, so you know, you have like a British

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<v Speaker 1>oil company. I was like, well, we just take it

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<v Speaker 1>out now it's ours. And the threat of this is

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<v Speaker 1>great enough that if you read conservatives in the era,

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<v Speaker 1>they will say things like the Soviet Union is no

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<v Speaker 1>longer a threat. The greatest danger to the West today

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<v Speaker 1>is the seventies seven. Yeah, yeah, this is this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's these these people are enormous. Yeah, no, no

0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:09.280
<v Speaker 1>one even rivers this anymore. And and it's it's because

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<v Speaker 1>largely it's because of how just unbelievably badly these guys

0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:16.280
<v Speaker 1>got stopped. Um, you know. And one of the other

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<v Speaker 1>things that happens out of the product of this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is where the G seven comes from. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>originally and I think there's another thing. Yeah, the other

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<v Speaker 1>funny part arout this. So the G seven is originally

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<v Speaker 1>a secret alliance, like through this whole through the whole seventies,

0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:30.119
<v Speaker 1>nobody knows G seven exists. It's basically it starts as

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<v Speaker 1>this like secret meeting of a bunch of finance ministers.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually they they add, uh, Canada and I think Japan too,

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<v Speaker 1>and it goes up to seven members, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have a couple of things they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with. They're trying to deal with the economic collapse.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the big things, like one of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest things they're dealing with, is the G seventy seven

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<v Speaker 1>and OPEK And this this the result of this is this,

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<v Speaker 1>these enormous series of fights in uh implausibly the United

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<v Speaker 1>Nations Conference on Trade in Development, which is I think

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<v Speaker 1>this this is this is the last time ever that

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<v Speaker 1>the fate of the entire world would be decided in

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<v Speaker 1>a battle in like a subcommittee of the U N

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<v Speaker 1>And there's there's years and years and years of negotiations

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<v Speaker 1>between well, the the G seven hasn't like openly to

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<v Speaker 1>cleared itself to G seven. It's sort of just it's

0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:24.160
<v Speaker 1>basically the rich European countries. So it's Canada, France, Germany, Italy,

0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:27.720
<v Speaker 1>the UK, the US and Japan like for form this

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<v Speaker 1>alliance and are like locked in together in order to

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<v Speaker 1>stop that G seven from seventy seven from doing anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is this is the this is the other

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<v Speaker 1>the other, the other crisis that the neoliberals are responding

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<v Speaker 1>to is it's it's not just and in many ways

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<v Speaker 1>this is the one that scares them more because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just that there's an economic crisis. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just that like capitalists are afraid because of losing money.

0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:55.879
<v Speaker 1>It's if this stuff goes through, the entire balance of

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<v Speaker 1>power in the entire global economy is going to change,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's going to swing into the favor of a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of non Western countries and probably more most importantly,

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:08.720
<v Speaker 1>from the liberals. They're going to enshrine the right of

0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:11.520
<v Speaker 1>states to take things away from corporations and regulate them.

0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:18.720
<v Speaker 1>And this is just absolutely completely unacceptable to both the

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:23.600
<v Speaker 1>neoliberals and just every single other organization that's even tangentially

0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:37.240
<v Speaker 1>involved with sort of the Western nations. So the neoliberals,

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about this a bit in in the last episodes,

0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:43.360
<v Speaker 1>is that they've been working on a strategy in order

0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:47.440
<v Speaker 1>to take power that doesn't rely on states. And so

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:52.120
<v Speaker 1>what they've been doing for about twenty years is essentially

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.800
<v Speaker 1>infiltrating and working their way up through it like takes

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:59.280
<v Speaker 1>basically basically taking over uh the International Monetary Fund in

0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:04.119
<v Speaker 1>the World Bank who in this period, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>everything I think it is very weird and hard to remember,

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:09.120
<v Speaker 1>which is that the I m F and the World Bank,

0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 1>like there was a time when they weren't completely evil,

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Like like the I m F was basically set up

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that countries wouldn't just run out of money, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it was supposed to give people like yeah, and the

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<v Speaker 1>World Bank, and it's it's turned into sort of this

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<v Speaker 1>like international debt system for horror countries where they're always

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<v Speaker 1>and being forced into austerity measures in the like yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and and that. But that that didn't used to be true.

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<v Speaker 1>It used to be you know, the the I m

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<v Speaker 1>F had a bunch of Keynsians in it and sit

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<v Speaker 1>same with the World Bank, and both both the I

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<v Speaker 1>m F and the World Bank's leadership for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of this period wanted to negotiate, and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think, this is this, this is this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is where We're gonna leave it here with basically, the

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<v Speaker 1>the the entire world is an imp apocal crisis. There

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<v Speaker 1>is the all the economies are collapsing, the st the

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<v Speaker 1>the armies of of the anti colonial like world or

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<v Speaker 1>are moving and the G seventy seven looks like it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's literally on the verge of of you know, completely

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<v Speaker 1>restructuring the economic system in a way that actually would

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<v Speaker 1>have been slightly more fair and just than but the

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<v Speaker 1>system that existed then, which was also infinitely more just

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<v Speaker 1>and fair, and the system that exist now. And next

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<v Speaker 1>episode we're going to talk about how this all fell

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<v Speaker 1>apart and how there was a choice in the seventies

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<v Speaker 1>between either corporations can make money or people can have things.

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<v Speaker 1>And the product of what the new Liberals are going

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<v Speaker 1>to do in the next episode is that they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to their solution to this problem is to tell the

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<v Speaker 1>entire wretched of the earth to each it and die.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that's that's that's the episode. It's yeah history. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a time. Um, okay, well we got any

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<v Speaker 1>we got any any plugables? What do we what do

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<v Speaker 1>we do at the end of episodes? Sophie, where are we?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you? Are we? Thank you for listening. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back on a day at a time. Maybe we're not

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<v Speaker 1>hearing you, Sophie. I think you're muted. I'm not muted.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not muted. Oh, there we go. I'm not muted.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't remuted the whole time. We didn't hear you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so weird. I said, we'll be back on a

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<v Speaker 1>day or a time, and yeah, at some point we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back. Find us then, uh, and find us tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>unless this comes out on Friday, in which case eat

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<v Speaker 1>with your family. This is dropping on. Adopt a cat,

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<v Speaker 1>Adopt two cats, maybe four four? Adopt four cats. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>get a number of cats greater than the number you

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<v Speaker 1>have and put them in your house. We'll see you

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