Speaker 1: Back to football this week on the Dave Pash Podcast.
Speaker 1: It was great to catch up with JJ Reddick, podcaster
Speaker 1: and ESPN NBA analysts talking about Duke's run to the
Speaker 1: Final four playing for coach k the Sons, NBA Awards,
Speaker 1: NBA postseason. But back to the gridiron with Daniel Jeremiah
Speaker 1: from NFL Media. Daniel is an NFL Network analyst, host
Speaker 1: of the Move the Sticks podcast along with Bucky Brooks,
Speaker 1: and he's also the radio analyst for the Los Angeles Chargers.
Speaker 1: DJ will dive in deep on who the Cardinals are
Speaker 1: potentially looking at at number twenty three, who some players
Speaker 1: are he thinks would be a great fit, whether the
Speaker 1: Cardinals will focus on offense or defense at number twenty three.
Speaker 1: Where you're picking, you're kind of at the mercy of
Speaker 1: what falls you because the draft can go in so
Speaker 1: many different directions. But I still think, you know, firepower
Speaker 1: on offense. I think on the defensive side of the ball,
Speaker 1: you know, just getting younger and more dynamic upfront. What
Speaker 1: does he think of some of the other draft picks.
Speaker 1: Does he like Aiden Hutchinson going number one to Jacksonville
Speaker 1: or does he take the field, What about Kenny Pickett,
Speaker 1: quarterback out of pit will he be the first quarterback
Speaker 1: taken in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, And does
Speaker 1: he have a sleep a favorite player of his that
Speaker 1: maybe won't go early in the draft, but that he
Speaker 1: thinks will be an excellent NFL player down the road.
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Speaker 1: here he is from NFL Media, Daniel Jeremiah. So, Daniel,
Speaker 1: let's start talking Arizona Cardinals. What do you think the
Speaker 1: Cardinals are going to be looking for? At twenty three
Speaker 1: because last year in the middle of the first round,
Speaker 1: the Cardinals had a player that they were hoping that
Speaker 1: was going to be there that happened to be there
Speaker 1: in Zavan Collins. Yeah, this year is a little bit
Speaker 1: different because you really don't know who's gonna slide and
Speaker 1: then maybe players that they have that might go early
Speaker 1: second round, but they have a higher grade than other
Speaker 1: teams that maybe they take at twenty three. What do
Speaker 1: you think they're going to be looking for there? Well,
Speaker 1: I think there's so many different ways you can go
Speaker 1: and kind of you hit it where you're picking. You're
Speaker 1: kind of at the mercy of what falls you because
Speaker 1: the draft can go in so many different directions. But
Speaker 1: I still think, you know, firepower on offense, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to find another playmaker. It's a deep receiver group.
Speaker 1: You can kind of play that out and see how
Speaker 1: it goes. Sometimes when you have a good number of
Speaker 1: whiteouts like we do, sometimes teams can be patient, which
Speaker 1: then maybe you're sitting there on the clock and you've
Speaker 1: got three or four guys you really liked, then you
Speaker 1: can slide back and still get you know, whoever that
Speaker 1: may be a trailing Burke's Jahan dots and you know,
Speaker 1: whoever your flavor is that you like out of that group,
Speaker 1: that's an option. And I think on the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball, you know, just getting younger and more
Speaker 1: dynamic upfront, trying to find guys that fit there. I
Speaker 1: look at a guy just kind of knowing Steve over
Speaker 1: the years. There are certain players you could see kind
Speaker 1: of tickling his fancy And for some reason, I think
Speaker 1: of a guy like Davante Wyatt, who's just ultra, ultra explosive,
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle from Georgia. If somehow he were to
Speaker 1: be in that mix there, I could see that that
Speaker 1: being somebody he'd really like. What about a corner, because
Speaker 1: that's a position of need. The Cardinals drafted Marco Wilson.
Speaker 1: He played very well last year given where he was
Speaker 1: picked and the fact he's a rookie, and Byron Murphy
Speaker 1: played well, not all season, but a good part of
Speaker 1: the seas and where you feel good about him. But
Speaker 1: that's still a position that the Cardinals are looking to upgrade. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be guys there. I mean Andrew Booth, you know,
Speaker 1: hasn't been you know, fully healthy to be able to
Speaker 1: participate in everything in the spring out of Clemson, so
Speaker 1: I think there's a chance he'll be there when they pick.
Speaker 1: I mean, I look at Stingley is gonna be gone,
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardener is gonna be gone, Trent McDuffie's gonna be gone.
Speaker 1: So you think you take those guys out of the
Speaker 1: mix there, but there'll still be some other intriguing names
Speaker 1: that you could look at. Booth would probably be the
Speaker 1: one if I'm kind of look at my list, who
Speaker 1: would probably be right in that range. Kyer Elham, another
Speaker 1: one out of Florida is somebody that's folks are on
Speaker 1: the league a little bit higher on him than I am.
Speaker 1: He's you know, big and fast, you know big, long
Speaker 1: and fast. It was a little bit inconsistent for me,
Speaker 1: but I know some teams have him in that late
Speaker 1: one range. So that's another one you could keep an
Speaker 1: eye on there. But again, I think they're in kind
Speaker 1: of in a position where I don't feel like, can
Speaker 1: you tell me covering the team, But I don't feel
Speaker 1: like there's a gun to their head at any individual position.
Speaker 1: They can line up with twenty two guys and play tomorrow.
Speaker 1: So I don't know that there's that one position where
Speaker 1: some of these teams, like you're like they don't have
Speaker 1: a tackle, Like they can't line up and play tomorrow.
Speaker 1: They kind of have to go in this direction. I
Speaker 1: don't really get that sense with the Cardinals. I'm glad
Speaker 1: you brought that up, because I didn't want to get
Speaker 1: your sense of how you evaluate their offseason. I've been
Speaker 1: telling this story to several people. I work a lot
Speaker 1: of NBA games with. Hubie. Brown was eight years old
Speaker 1: as besta for fifty years. Hubie tells this story of
Speaker 1: He's an assistant coach with the Milwaukee Bucks in the
Speaker 1: early seventies. Oscar Robertson is on the team. Kareem Abdul
Speaker 1: Jabbar is a young champion. At that point, they just
Speaker 1: won the championship. After that year, they had a year
Speaker 1: where they lose in the playoffs. At that time, Larry
Speaker 1: Costello was the head coach, the owner, Larry Costello, and Hubie.
Speaker 1: Because then you only had one assistant, you didn't have
Speaker 1: this whole staff, they go to Vegas, the three of
Speaker 1: them to talk about the team and what to do
Speaker 1: in the offseason. Initially, everybody was traded except Kareem, but
Speaker 1: then over time they met like day after day for
Speaker 1: about four or five days. They didn't trade anybody. And
Speaker 1: I compare that to the Cardinals a little bit because
Speaker 1: I think initially the way they lost, the way they
Speaker 1: closed the year, a lot of people are like, man,
Speaker 1: you got a clean house. Well, the Cardinals just did
Speaker 1: that a few years ago. They change coaching staffs. They
Speaker 1: drafted a quarterback in the first round the year after
Speaker 1: they drafted a quarterback in the first round. So I
Speaker 1: think what that tells me is seven and oh is real.
Speaker 1: Ten and two is real. To your point, you've got
Speaker 1: twenty two guys you can line up and win. Maybe
Speaker 1: you're not good enough to win a championship just yet
Speaker 1: because you still need to add some pieces, but you're
Speaker 1: good enough where you don't have to make drastic changes.
Speaker 1: So based some of the Cardinals have done so far
Speaker 1: in the offseason, DJ, how would you evaluate that? Well,
Speaker 1: I think that's a great way to phrase it. I
Speaker 1: love that background is the absolute best. I love listening
Speaker 1: to you guys, man, But you know, I think it's
Speaker 1: you want to use the early portion of the off season,
Speaker 1: which is free agency, to eliminate those die or needs
Speaker 1: that you have so that you can be nimble and
Speaker 1: be flexible and take best player available. There's no worse
Speaker 1: feeling in the world than to be sitting there on
Speaker 1: draft day. And I've been in rooms like this where
Speaker 1: you're like, man, we don't have a starting safety. So
Speaker 1: whether we have to trade up to get one, or
Speaker 1: whether we don't feel like there's value where we are,
Speaker 1: we got to move back. But those you're sweating bullets
Speaker 1: when you when you're in the draft room in that situation.
Speaker 1: But that's why free agency helps to kind of fill
Speaker 1: in those holes. They didn't really have that much to
Speaker 1: do in terms of having acceptable level players at every position.
Speaker 1: My challenge in this team kind of going forward, when
Speaker 1: you look at the quarterbacks you're gonna have to play especially,
Speaker 1: I mean, thankfully the NFC's is some of those guys
Speaker 1: have left. But the quarterbacks you're gonna have to get
Speaker 1: through to win a championship. You know. I know the
Speaker 1: offense there with Kyler it can be explosive. They need more.
Speaker 1: I just think they're gonna find there. You're gonna find
Speaker 1: your way into some of those shootout games. And is
Speaker 1: as good as this group is, I think they need
Speaker 1: even more firepower than they have, and so that's a
Speaker 1: playmaker in any form. You know, however, you can find that.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a you know, there's not a
Speaker 1: tight end worth a late first round pick. To me,
Speaker 1: I look at the running backs. There's a couple that
Speaker 1: I like. If you wanted to trade back into the
Speaker 1: top of two, you could add another player like a
Speaker 1: Breece Hall, add even more firepower to that group. But
Speaker 1: to me, the one that makes the most sense is
Speaker 1: I think because of the quality of wide receivers in
Speaker 1: this draft, I think they've had a chance to get
Speaker 1: a real difference maker. I don't know that you can
Speaker 1: have enough in terms of weapons right now the way
Speaker 1: the league's playing. I had Ohio State this year and
Speaker 1: they absolutely destroyed Indiana. It was a ABC primetime game
Speaker 1: where they were just clicking, and those three receivers were
Speaker 1: all phenomenal. Do you think any of those guys will
Speaker 1: be available? Chris Olave and some of the mock drafts
Speaker 1: has been there for the Cardinals at twenty three. You
Speaker 1: mentioned a couple of the guys earlier, Johan Dotson. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to remember who the other receiver was. The trailing
Speaker 1: burs from Arkansas. Yeah, who do you think would best
Speaker 1: fit what the Cardinals want to do? Well? To me,
Speaker 1: the most intriguing one as Burke's because he gives them
Speaker 1: a two hundred and twenty five pound guy that can
Speaker 1: do a lot of the stuff that they do, you know,
Speaker 1: in terms of getting the ball in his hands, let
Speaker 1: him run after the catch, and it just gives them
Speaker 1: a little bit of a different look than what they've had.
Speaker 1: You know, guys, you watched Debo. You see him inside
Speaker 1: the division, the ability to put him in the backfield,
Speaker 1: do different things, get the ball out of your hand
Speaker 1: quick and let guys make plays with the football. That's
Speaker 1: what he does. And to me, it's just you know,
Speaker 1: when I went back and looked at wideouts over the
Speaker 1: last couple of years, and I've tried to find, you know,
Speaker 1: what's that thing that they all have in common. The
Speaker 1: top guys, the elite guys. You'll find all different play speeds,
Speaker 1: you know, find all different sizes, but they all had
Speaker 1: play strength. You know, when you kind of look at
Speaker 1: those top guys over the last couple of years, look
Speaker 1: at what Jamar Chase came into the league and did.
Speaker 1: Obviously you see debo. You see a j. Brown, you
Speaker 1: see DK in the division. These guys all are strong,
Speaker 1: physical guys. Cooper Cup has incredible play strength and people
Speaker 1: don't realize it's like two hundred and fifteen two hundred
Speaker 1: and sixteen pounds. So adding a little bit even more
Speaker 1: strength to that group to kind of compent what you
Speaker 1: have there, get Dhot back healthy, you've got to speed
Speaker 1: guy with Rondale Moore. I think that's kind of a
Speaker 1: would be a fun ingredient for them to play with.
Speaker 1: Cardinals resign to me, and if you ask Steve Kime,
Speaker 1: he might agree. There are three top priorities zach Ertz,
Speaker 1: James Connor, Cole McCoy because of how important Colt is,
Speaker 1: Kyler and Christian Kirk gets a great contract. He was
Speaker 1: on this podcast, and I know for him, while it
Speaker 1: was probably hard to not win a championship here with
Speaker 1: his hometown team, he was a Cardinal fan growing up.
Speaker 1: He's getting an incredible opportunity, obviously with a ton of
Speaker 1: money in Jacksonville. So a lot of fans here are like, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: what are the Cardinals going to do now? To replace
Speaker 1: They bring back Max Williams. Zach Ertz but what are
Speaker 1: they going to do at receiver? And I keep saying,
Speaker 1: let's not sleep on Rondale Moore another Cardinals drafted him
Speaker 1: high last year's second round pick. He did not have
Speaker 1: the production that I think people thought he was going
Speaker 1: to have based on how the year started and what
Speaker 1: we saw in camp. How would you grade his first
Speaker 1: year and what did you think of him coming out?
Speaker 1: Did you see him as a eight to ten year
Speaker 1: NFL receiver that goes to the Pro Bowl a few times? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna actually look up to see exactly
Speaker 1: where I had him, because I always it's always a
Speaker 1: fun exercise for me to look back and see what
Speaker 1: number I had him on. So I kind of keep
Speaker 1: my little sequence list in here, and I'll pull up
Speaker 1: my notes that I had on him as we entered
Speaker 1: into the draft. So Rondell Hoore was my seventieth player.
Speaker 1: So he was my seventieth player. I said he was
Speaker 1: at his best in twenty eighteen. He's had injuries, He's
Speaker 1: got big time stop start quickness, He's explosive, lots of
Speaker 1: shovel passes, lots of quick hitters, really explosive in the
Speaker 1: open field. I thought he was best as a catch
Speaker 1: and run guy. So that was kind of my my expectation.
Speaker 1: He went higher. I was what number pick was he?
Speaker 1: Do you remember? Oh, I got on my head. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to remember his early early second round. I can't remember. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, he was right, he was. He went
Speaker 1: a little bit higher than I had him. But I
Speaker 1: would say kind of where I what my expectations were
Speaker 1: and what he did probably matched up. You know, for
Speaker 1: year one, him getting his feet wet in the NFL,
Speaker 1: you saw some flashes. Just wasn't you know, as consistent
Speaker 1: of a playmaker as you maybe want throughout the year.
Speaker 1: But you know, to me, I think he's he's on
Speaker 1: schedule for what he's going to be. I think he's
Speaker 1: a unique player with his kind of size, speed, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of a unique guy in that kind of compact package.
Speaker 1: I remember during the draft process, I compared him to
Speaker 1: Darren Sproles, like that's who he looks like when he's
Speaker 1: moving out there in the open field. But you've got
Speaker 1: to kind of create ways to get him the ball.
Speaker 1: I did not think he was, you know, a pristine
Speaker 1: route runner or anything like that. He's get the ball
Speaker 1: in his hands, and that's where the fund starts. He
Speaker 1: was picked forty nine, So okay, there you go, losing
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones. Can you address that that late in the draft.
Speaker 1: There've been plenty of guys who have been late first
Speaker 1: round picks. Chandler Jones wasn't a high first round pick
Speaker 1: and obviously has had a brilliant NFL career. Is that
Speaker 1: something you see the Cardinals potentially addressing. Is there a
Speaker 1: guy that could be their late first round or maybe
Speaker 1: even because of a slower forty time or maybe the
Speaker 1: height and weight aren't what everybody falls in love with,
Speaker 1: might be a second round guy that could end up
Speaker 1: having a really good NFL career as an edge guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think there's depth in this group. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, there's absolutely going to be one there when
Speaker 1: they pick, because I've you know, I've tweeted out there
Speaker 1: that there's twenty edge guys I like in the straft
Speaker 1: and that's how deep it is. It really really goes
Speaker 1: so um, you know, I look at a guy like
Speaker 1: Arnold E. Vakatie from from Penn State, who's who's really
Speaker 1: really explosive off the edge. He's kind of that compact build.
Speaker 1: To me, he's like a you know from from having
Speaker 1: watched Marcus Golden. To me, he's like a little more
Speaker 1: souped up version of that, but just has a lot
Speaker 1: of snap and a lot pop in his hands. He's
Speaker 1: a really really good player. I think he's probably he's
Speaker 1: probably gonna go, you know, mid twenties to mid thirties,
Speaker 1: like in that range. Boye Mafe from from Minnesota's another
Speaker 1: one really really you know, kind of twitched up. He's
Speaker 1: a little bit tight um, but he gives you kind
Speaker 1: of that fastball off the edge. In terms of that
Speaker 1: body type of Chandler if you were looking for somebody
Speaker 1: maybe outside the first round, you know, Drake Jackson from
Speaker 1: from USC kind of has that real long limbed I
Speaker 1: mean he's not as tall as Chandler, but really really long,
Speaker 1: real smooth. Just was a little inconsistent for USC over
Speaker 1: his career. But that's kind of more of a second
Speaker 1: round type option that you could put in that mix.
Speaker 1: So they'll, yeah, they're they're absolutely there's gonna have options
Speaker 1: for edge rushers with their first pick. They're gonna have
Speaker 1: options there with their second pick as well. Daniel, Let's
Speaker 1: look at some of the other storylines around the NFL draft.
Speaker 1: Do you think Aidan Hutchinson will go number one or
Speaker 1: are you betting the field? Do you see somebody else
Speaker 1: getting picked first by Jacksonville. I think it'll be him.
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of talk and about Trent
Speaker 1: Balky being there, and Balky kind of connecting him with
Speaker 1: his past with San Francisco and Alden Smith, And who's
Speaker 1: the Alden Smith in this draft? Well, that's more Trayvon
Speaker 1: Walker than it is Aiden Hutchinson. So there's been that
Speaker 1: kind of plot floating around out there. I just look
Speaker 1: at it from from up above and kind of looking
Speaker 1: at the big picture of it, and I'm like, all
Speaker 1: the chaos that this organization has been through in the
Speaker 1: last year, don't you just want steady in the middle
Speaker 1: of the fairway? You know, easy choice, Aiden Hutchinson. He
Speaker 1: comes in clear packaging, Dave, you know exactly what you're
Speaker 1: getting with him. So and I think that now, I
Speaker 1: think it's it's a little disrespectful to say, oh, he's
Speaker 1: a high floor player, which kind of insinuates this guy's
Speaker 1: never going to have more than eight or nine sacks
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Not he looks like when you look
Speaker 1: at kind of his numbers, his measurables, how he moves,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of Jared Allen, you know, to him.
Speaker 1: So to me, I think that's kind of for me,
Speaker 1: it's a no brainer. Um. I guess the still some
Speaker 1: uncertainty of what they'll do, but I think that's where
Speaker 1: they'll land. One of my favorite stories in this draft
Speaker 1: is Kenny Pickett, the quarterback from pitt We had him
Speaker 1: week two against Tennessee and meeting with Patton Ardoozy, Mark
Speaker 1: Whipple at the time, the offensive coordinator whose son Spencer
Speaker 1: you know big or to the Cardinals staff last year, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just how they raped. And we met with Kenny
Speaker 1: as well and spoke to him for about fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: And they were surprised that he came back because they
Speaker 1: thought he was going to be a second or third
Speaker 1: round pick. And they thought, that's that's good. You should
Speaker 1: you should do that. It's amazing. He's now potentially the
Speaker 1: first quarterback taken. Is there a comp for him in
Speaker 1: the NFL right now? Yeah? No, he's my top quarterback.
Speaker 1: I think he's like my twenty fourth overall player. You know,
Speaker 1: when you talk about comparisons, the first one that came
Speaker 1: to mind actually was Hasselback. Like just watching him throw
Speaker 1: the football, he reminded me of Matt, just how he
Speaker 1: kind of moves around, and you know, you'd say Hasselbeck
Speaker 1: has I would use the phrase kind of has enough
Speaker 1: of everything, right, He's got enough arm strength, he's got
Speaker 1: enough athleticism. I don't know that Matt was ever superior
Speaker 1: in any of those areas, but he's above the line
Speaker 1: and everything. And that's to me kind of like what
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett is. The other. If you're looking for somebody
Speaker 1: that's on an NFL field right now, i'd say kind
Speaker 1: of a Ryan Tannehill, you know, throw on the move.
Speaker 1: He's good either way doing that. Everybody really enjoys enjoys
Speaker 1: his company. That's one of the things that comes up
Speaker 1: over and over again. I'm sure you've you've felt that
Speaker 1: way just being around him. We talked to guys that
Speaker 1: around him at the Manning camp. They say he was
Speaker 1: kind of the pipe pipe or all the other college
Speaker 1: quarterbacks wanted to be around him. Same thing at the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowls, same thing at the Combine. So I kind
Speaker 1: of look at the upside for him, is you know,
Speaker 1: I you know, if you're looking at thirty two starting quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: Dave I would say he's got a chance to be
Speaker 1: a you know, the thirteenth, fourteenth best quarterback in the league.
Speaker 1: You know, when he hits his stride and gets going,
Speaker 1: you know. I think a Kirk Cousins is probably another
Speaker 1: one that's probably in that range. You know, Kirk's never
Speaker 1: gonna be a top five quarterback, but you can win
Speaker 1: a lot of games with him. I think Kenny Pickett's
Speaker 1: the same same type. We always we always talk on
Speaker 1: the podcast about trucks and trailers. Right, there's maybe five
Speaker 1: to six trucks in this league that are quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: can literally pull the rest of the team along with him.
Speaker 1: Everybody else is a trailer. You're kind of reluctant, you're
Speaker 1: reliant on what's you know, kind of around you and
Speaker 1: what's supporting you. That's what he's gonna be. I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a trailer. Put him on a good
Speaker 1: team with good players, and you'll win games. Do you
Speaker 1: have a favorite sleeper player somebody that you absolutely love
Speaker 1: that wherever this guy goes, whether he's a top ten
Speaker 1: pick or late first or middle of the draft, guy
Speaker 1: that you think is going to be a star. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say a star on this one. But to me,
Speaker 1: like John Metchi from Alabama who tore his ACL he's
Speaker 1: like the forgotten wide receiver in this draft. But he's
Speaker 1: a really really clean route runner. He catches everything, he's tough.
Speaker 1: Just put him in the slot. You know. I talked
Speaker 1: about that play strength. He's got excellent play strength. He's
Speaker 1: gonna come into the league, he's gonna get he's gonna
Speaker 1: be healthy. He's probably gonna go in the third round
Speaker 1: coming off that injury. Man, he's gonna catch eighty five
Speaker 1: balls every year for the next ten years. Like that,
Speaker 1: to me is kind of one of those guys that
Speaker 1: if you're in the in the room, you kind of
Speaker 1: just highlight him and say, Okay, that's that's one we'd
Speaker 1: like to get into the fold. You do a lot
Speaker 1: of work for the Chargers. Are you enjoying that? By
Speaker 1: the way, do you enjoy because you do such a
Speaker 1: great job, you know on your podcast or just analyzing
Speaker 1: draft picks, But in terms of calling games, are you
Speaker 1: enjoying that? And what's it like to cover Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: every week? Well, it's a it's a friendly reminder of
Speaker 1: how you didn't grade him properly. I get reminded of
Speaker 1: that twenty times a year, So that's a unique experience
Speaker 1: as somebody who does personnel. But he's been Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: been great, man, And you you know what, there's of
Speaker 1: all the different things I've got to do that that
Speaker 1: might be my favorite. It's just because the spontaneity of
Speaker 1: it and the excitement. There's there's fans, it's being in
Speaker 1: the studio and you know that's fun. The draft is
Speaker 1: pretty killer, you know when we get when we took
Speaker 1: that thing on the road and now you get hundreds
Speaker 1: of thousands of people out there, that's a pretty cool rush.
Speaker 1: But being inside the stadium um and getting a chance
Speaker 1: to you know, see a really entertaining team with with
Speaker 1: Herbert and and Derwin, James and Bosa that the division
Speaker 1: is going to be killer um for these next few
Speaker 1: years here when you've gotten Mahomes and you know the
Speaker 1: Raiders have loaded up as well, the Broncos get Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: So I'm fired up for it. It's a lot of
Speaker 1: fun working with Matt's the best um. You know, you
Speaker 1: would know better than anybody the importance of just having
Speaker 1: somebody you enjoyed being around. Um and Mats match really good,
Speaker 1: and then we also just have a great time together
Speaker 1: on the road, so it's yeah, it's been a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. I've been trying to replace Wolf for almost
Speaker 1: twenty years now. It still hasn't worked, so I think
Speaker 1: I think we're stuck now. That's my favorite part of
Speaker 1: the preseason, by the way, is when I get I
Speaker 1: get into a hotel because usually it's like a Charger
Speaker 1: Road game, so I get into the hotel. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: usually kind of working on something. I've got the game
Speaker 1: on in the background, and as soon as I hear Wolfee,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's distinguishable. You never have to wonder
Speaker 1: who's playing on the TV when you hear the voice
Speaker 1: come out there. I love it. It's great to watch
Speaker 1: how people respond when he's on TV in preseason that
Speaker 1: don't listen to Cardinal games during the year, and they're like,
Speaker 1: who is this guy? Yea, everybody thinks he's Putty from
Speaker 1: from Seinfeld. Everybody compares him to the voice of Elaine's
Speaker 1: boyfriend from Seinfeld. It's Twitter hits it every time every year.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Oh, it's so good. Look, I know you've
Speaker 1: told this story before, and I don't know if there's
Speaker 1: you know, a different aspect to it that maybe you
Speaker 1: haven't talked about publicly. But I'm curious, how did you
Speaker 1: get to how did you get started with this? You know,
Speaker 1: I grew up a lot of times listen, I knew
Speaker 1: your name just listening to your dad, who's a famous
Speaker 1: Christian author and speaker, and it written a lot of books.
Speaker 1: How did you get into this? You know, why did
Speaker 1: you get into this? And are you surprised that where
Speaker 1: it's taken you? Yeah, you know it's a total it's
Speaker 1: a total god thing because I couldn't have scripted it
Speaker 1: or planned it the way that it happened. You know,
Speaker 1: I grew up and I was always I was always
Speaker 1: a kind of a draft junkie, as somebody who played
Speaker 1: you know, high school and college football, was always into
Speaker 1: the draft. Didn't know exactly how I could ever work
Speaker 1: in the field associated with it, but I just was
Speaker 1: interested in and always loved it. Um my dad, as
Speaker 1: you mentioned as a pastor, so during the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven, Chris Mortenson from ESPN, listening to
Speaker 1: my dad on the radio, every day, and so during
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl, there was two weeks, you know, between
Speaker 1: the conference championship game the Super Bowl. So he on
Speaker 1: that Sunday between went to my dad's church and wanted
Speaker 1: to introduce himself. So went to introduced himself to my dad.
Speaker 1: I was so this would have been my freshman year
Speaker 1: of college. I was home during that time during the break.
Speaker 1: I went home for lunch after church, and Chris Mortenson's
Speaker 1: in my family room. My dad had invited him up
Speaker 1: to lunch. So that's how I met mort and we
Speaker 1: struck up a friendship. He was so generous with me,
Speaker 1: you know, took me to media day and met Reggie White,
Speaker 1: and you know, that was kind of my first introduction
Speaker 1: to that. So we had that friendship kind of developed.
Speaker 1: So then you kind of fast forward. I go, when
Speaker 1: I'm playing at Appalachian State in my final year, my
Speaker 1: senior year, I tear my mcl and the opener against
Speaker 1: Wake Forest so kind of basically kind of ruined my
Speaker 1: whole senior year of football. But in what would have
Speaker 1: been maybe a frustrating thing, and this is a long
Speaker 1: winded answer, but I go, I'm in the training room
Speaker 1: getting treatment. Would have never been in there at this time,
Speaker 1: if I didn't have his knee injury. My brother's college
Speaker 1: roommate he played with at Liberty. It was a scout
Speaker 1: for the Ravens and he was going through, you know,
Speaker 1: scouting some of our NFL guys, of which I was not.
Speaker 1: So he comes into the to the training room. He
Speaker 1: recognizes me as his roommate's a little brother who he
Speaker 1: hasn't seen in six years, comes over and starts talking
Speaker 1: to me. So we kind of connect. So then that
Speaker 1: was kind of a god thing how that timing happened. Well,
Speaker 1: I ended up after college through Chris, I end up
Speaker 1: getting on as a production assistant with Sunday Night Football. Um,
Speaker 1: so I'm traveling around with them. I was the E
Speaker 1: m G producer and I was the spotter up in
Speaker 1: the booth and so we're doing a Ravens game and
Speaker 1: I ran into my brother's roommate again in that press box,
Speaker 1: and then he induced me to Phil Savage, who was
Speaker 1: the director of player personnel, asked if I'd be interested
Speaker 1: in scouting. Had never thought about it in a million years,
Speaker 1: So interviewed with them, got on there, and that kind
Speaker 1: of started me down down the personnel path, which again
Speaker 1: the personnel then eventually led me to the TV path.
Speaker 1: So I could have never known that Chris Mornson was
Speaker 1: going to come to my dad's church. I could have
Speaker 1: never known I was going to get hurt, which would
Speaker 1: lead me to meet my brother's roommate in the training room. This,
Speaker 1: all these factors came together, and that's you know, that's
Speaker 1: just kind of God guiding your life and taking you
Speaker 1: where you could never imagine you could go. Well, it's
Speaker 1: a great testimony, it's a great story. You do such
Speaker 1: a great job on all the platforms, whether it's on television,
Speaker 1: the podcast, the Chargers broadcast. Really enjoy your work, Daniel,
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for spending some time with us. Well,
Speaker 1: it's a pleasure, is all mine to get a chance
Speaker 1: to visit with you. You know, we've had a chance
Speaker 1: to visit over the years. You know how much I
Speaker 1: admire respect the work that you do. There's nobody better,
Speaker 1: my friend. Thanks, DJ, appreciate it. Man. So, Daniel Jeremiah
Speaker 1: thinks the Cardinals will likely go offense in this draft.
Speaker 1: He did mention potentially the Cardinals looking at the defensive
Speaker 1: line at number twenty three, but he expects the Cardinals
Speaker 1: to continue to load up in terms of adding weapons
Speaker 1: to Kyler Murray's arsenal, as the expectation is especially in
Speaker 1: the NFC West, even though Russell Wilson's no longer in
Speaker 1: the division. With the forty nine ers and the potent
Speaker 1: Rams offense, the Cardinals are going to have to score
Speaker 1: points to win the division. He does think Aiden Hutchinson
Speaker 1: out of Michigan will go number one to Jacksonville, that
Speaker 1: that's the safest pick for the Jaguars at number one,
Speaker 1: and he has Kenny Pickett out of pit as his
Speaker 1: number one quarterback. I also love Daniel's story just on
Speaker 1: how he got into this to begin with, from growing
Speaker 1: up in a Christian home with his dad being a
Speaker 1: pastor a famous author as well, and the connection to
Speaker 1: Chris Mortenson and how that turned into Daniel getting an
Speaker 1: opportunity eventually in scouting and now he is all over
Speaker 1: NFL Network and you can catch Daniel live coverage of
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft from Las Vegas April twenty eight through thirtieth.
Speaker 1: Daniel be on a number of NFL media platforms discussing
Speaker 1: the draft. He's also host of the Move the Sticks
Speaker 1: podcast along with Bucky Brooks. Great to talk to DJ
Speaker 1: get his perspective on the Cardinals, their off season, and
Speaker 1: look ahead to the twenty twenty two NFL Draft. Can't
Speaker 1: wait for April twenty eight through the thirtieth to catch
Speaker 1: Daniel on NFL Network and also to see what the
Speaker 1: Cardinals do with their first round selection. We are presented
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Speaker 1: again to you for listening to another edition of the
Speaker 1: Dave Cash Podcast.