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Speaker 2: Today's story of the Day, La County DA George Gascone.

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Speaker 2: He elevated a woman you may not be familiar with,

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Speaker 2: but will make you very familiar with her, Tiffany blacknew A.

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Speaker 2: She's she wasn't a public defender, and then she was

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Speaker 2: upgraded to prosecutor under Guestcone, a special advisor chief of communications,

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Speaker 2: and now she has been promoted to chief of staff.

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Speaker 2: And Martin Marx from californiaglobe dot com went through her past.

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Speaker 2: Her self admitted past with starts with a tweet that

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Speaker 2: she put out back in twenty twenty during George Floyd

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Speaker 2: Riot Week, she admitted she was a looter in nineteen

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Speaker 2: ninety two, fifteen years old, during the Rodney King riots,

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Speaker 2: and she was proud of it, said it was a

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Speaker 2: formative moment of her life. And now during the George

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Speaker 2: Floyd riots, she was triggered and she started scolding black

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Speaker 2: and white liberals, especially on the West Side, who are

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Speaker 2: in complaining about their whole foods and their nordstrums being

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Speaker 2: ransacked and damaged. And she's full of self righteousness, full

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Speaker 2: of anger, and she apparently thinks rioting and looting is cool,

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Speaker 2: although she gets upset when her neighborhood gets looted and damaged.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of conflict. She thinks the lped are

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Speaker 2: barbarians and an occupying army, and she also thinks the

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Speaker 2: prison system ought to be abolished. A lot of these

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Speaker 2: tweets are dug up originally by Bill Malugen from Fox News.

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Speaker 2: Martin Marx put it all together at californiaglobe dot com.

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Speaker 2: Let's get him on here, Martin.

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Speaker 3: How are you quite well? John? Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: This just happened Friday, Gastcone released this announcement that Tiffany

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Speaker 2: Blackmail got this promotion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I actually announced a number of promotions within the department,

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Speaker 3: and they're evidently supposed to take place in the new year,

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Speaker 3: and she moving to the top spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and chief of staff, What specifically kind of role

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Speaker 2: does she have now in Gascone's office?

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Speaker 1: What is the chief of staff?

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Speaker 3: Do he is she's the connection to everything in Los

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Speaker 3: Angeles government interactions with the police department, helping the prosecutor,

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Speaker 3: mister Gascone, set policy and set attitudes for how the

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Speaker 3: department is going to proceed, and she will have his

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Speaker 3: year twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 2: Now, she's clearly an anti police, anti prison as an activist.

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Speaker 1: Without a question.

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Speaker 3: You know, listen, you know we all know about towards

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Speaker 3: Gascon and his worldview and as it's evolved from his

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Speaker 4: He's a radical without a doubt.

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Speaker 3: And you know, we came very close to having him

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Speaker 3: recall just a few thousand signatures short, and speculation is

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Speaker 3: had that recall made it to the ballot, he would

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Speaker 3: have been shown the door. Well, his approval.

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Speaker 2: Rating is fifteen percent and he's got nine people running

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Speaker 2: against him, and so he's definitely going to be stuck

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Speaker 2: in a runoff at the very least and likely would

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Speaker 2: lose the runoff in November. So is this promotion of

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Speaker 2: Tiffany Black now on nothing to lose. I don't give

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Speaker 3: I think you hit the nail on the head. I

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Speaker 3: think he sees the handwriting on the wall that his

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Speaker 3: measured in weeks now that he's likely not going to

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Speaker 3: win reelection, and this is his thumbing the nose of

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Speaker 3: Los Angeleos. It's an extreme, radical, woke, scorched earth policy.

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Speaker 3: And you know, as radical as Gascon is this woman

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Speaker 3: that he's appointed to chief of staff, Tiffany Blackmail. As

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Speaker 3: you put, she's just an angry, angry woman who is

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Speaker 3: taking some rather radical positions and dangerous positions. Listen, I've

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Speaker 3: watched enough episodes of Law and Order to know that

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Speaker 3: a professional, if not cordial relationship. I don't see how

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Speaker 2: Well, it's one thing to have a philosophical difference, but

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as a youth. She was only fifteen at the time.

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Speaker 3: But you know, she translates that, translates that into what

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Speaker 3: Without a doubt. She's an apologist for criminals. How can

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Speaker 3: anyone take a position that we should abolish prisons? What's

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Speaker 3: the alternative? I understand you know that she may have

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Speaker 3: a position that, for whatever reason, prisons may have a

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Speaker 3: disportionate population of mine minorities, and that may be true

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Speaker 3: for any number of reasons, But to abolish prisons, that's

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Speaker 3: a that's a ludicrous proposition. And now she's going to

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Speaker 2: It is probably not the only one in Gascon's office

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Speaker 2: that feels that way, including Gascon is probably part of

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, without a doubt.

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Speaker 3: Listen, and as you pointed out, she's been with him

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Speaker 3: right from the beginning. She was a part of the

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Speaker 3: Gascon for District Attorney campaign a few years back, so

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Speaker 3: she's been in that office in a number of positions.

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Speaker 3: But she was part of the campaign too. And you

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Speaker 3: know when Gascon Juan, you know, he defeated I believe

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Speaker 3: it was La County's first African American woman prosecutor. And

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Speaker 3: she certainly is not a right wing conservative, but she

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Speaker 3: was taken aback by some of the things out of

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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you.

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Speaker 2: Let's say Gascon does not make the runoff, he does

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Speaker 2: not finish in the top two. So it's the middle

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Speaker 2: of March. He's a complete lame duck. The election is

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Speaker 2: not till November. He's not going to be replaced until December. Officially,

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Speaker 2: what the hell.

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Speaker 1: Is it going to look like? What's he going to do?

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Speaker 2: Because right now he's not even trying to suck up

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Speaker 2: to the voters, he's not even playing pretend. What's he

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Speaker 2: going to do when he really has nothing to lose?

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Speaker 3: The best question is can it get any worse? Maybe yes,

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Speaker 3: maybe no. But I think this is maybe a hint

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Speaker 3: of things to come when you have a woman like

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Speaker 3: this who will now be his chief as staff. As I,

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Speaker 3: as I tried to point out, it sounds like a

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Speaker 3: scorts dirt policy that you know, maybe LA won't be

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Speaker 3: burning to the ground, God forbid, but certainly it's a

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Speaker 1: Dream, right, And there's nothing the public can do about this.

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Speaker 3: Well, has any mentioned, anybody mentioned the word recall?

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Speaker 1: Either way, there's no time for it.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, not that this is what happened with

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Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom, but I know in Florida, Ron DeSantis removed

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Speaker 2: I believe, two district attorneys who we were off the edge,

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Speaker 1: So he had to remove.

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Speaker 2: He had the state power, and the attorney general here

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Speaker 2: does have the state power to remove.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think Vonte will do it. I don't

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Speaker 3: think Gavin Newsom would even consider it. Keep in mind

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Speaker 3: that it was Gavin Newsom who appointed Gascon as the

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Speaker 3: the California Attorney general. So he was the one who

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Speaker 3: got Gascone got that ball rolling up in San Francisco

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Speaker 3: as a prosecutor. So right, I wouldn't count on on

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Speaker 1: So what a San Francisco machine? Huh?

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Speaker 2: Newsom Kamdala Harris, George Gascone, Oh my god. All right,

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Speaker 2: well listen, great article. This was a pleasure to wake

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Speaker 2: up to this morning. Martin Marx, and thanks also to

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Speaker 2: Bill Mallusion from Fox eleven because he dug up a

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Speaker 2: lot of these tweets over the years.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Martin, keep covering it. We'll talk with you again soon.

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Speaker 4: Are you bad?

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Speaker 3: Thanks? Thanks John Martin.

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Speaker 2: Marx from California Globe dot com. You should read the

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Speaker 2: whole story and look at the tweets. In fact, I'll

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Speaker 2: read some of the tweets in their entirety. This is

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Speaker 2: why you do vote in March, and you do vote

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Speaker 2: for a candidate other than George Gascon.

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Speaker 1: You must, okay, this.

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Speaker 2: Is brightening. I mean, maybe nobody gets prosecuted in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four. Maybe they completely shut down the prosecution machine,

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Speaker 2: and you know they're going to be releasing murderers, rapists

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Speaker 2: and sexual assaulters and arson. Maybe anything goes now for

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Speaker 2: the next year. Nothing would surprise me with this crowd,

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Speaker 2: because if you're for abolishing prisons, then you're saying everybody

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Speaker 2: should be free, no matter what crime they've committed. That's

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Speaker 2: the only way to look at it. You're abolishing prisons.

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Speaker 2: Well what does that mean? Abolishing? All right, not reforming,

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Speaker 2: not scaling back, abolishing, which means everybody's free. Well, if

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Speaker 2: everyone's going to be free, why would you prosecute anybody?

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Speaker 2: The next step from no prisons is no prosecutions, because

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Speaker 2: prosecutions lead to to prisons. Right when I say these things,

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Speaker 2: it sounds outrageous, but break down the process here.

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Speaker 1: It's not outrageous.

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Speaker 2: It's what they're selling, and they've been open about it

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Speaker 2: for the last three years. Okay, we've got more coming

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Speaker 2: Okay, So, the case of Tiffany Black now, and this

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Speaker 2: is the most important local election, well actually on the

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Speaker 2: balance in March. It's the most important election because it's

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Speaker 2: supposed to be a presidential year and out here in California,

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Speaker 2: Biden and Trump, unless one or both of them die,

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Speaker 2: are going to win the California primary. So let's go

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Speaker 2: to what matters in your day to day life more

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Speaker 2: important than a state senator, a state assemblyman. There's no

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Speaker 2: governor on the ballot. This is in LA County, and

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Speaker 2: the crime spills over into Orange County as well. Obviously

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Speaker 2: we had Todd Spitzer on last week, and you know,

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Speaker 2: they just arrested a whole bunch of LA Gang members

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Speaker 2: who had spilled into Orange County and were responsible for

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Speaker 2: many home burglaries, whole rational home burglaries. Tiffany Black now,

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Speaker 2: now we've known about her for several years since Gascone

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Speaker 2: took over. She is was a public defender, and then

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Speaker 2: she started moving up the chain in the DA's office,

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Speaker 2: a Grade four prosecutor, that's the top level of prosecutor.

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Speaker 2: Also listed as a special advisor, chief of communications, and

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Speaker 2: now chief of staff. They released this news on Friday,

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Speaker 2: hoping that nobody was going to know it. Gascon, of course,

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Speaker 2: is doing very badly when it comes to an approval rating,

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Speaker 2: about fifteen percent or so depending on the poll. And

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Speaker 2: while at the moment he would sneak into the top

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Speaker 2: two in a ten person primary, he would not do

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Speaker 2: well in November. He would lose, probably buy gigantic proportions.

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Speaker 2: But you just don't want him out there anymore. You

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Speaker 2: don't want him surviving in March. You don't want something

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Speaker 2: weird and fluky and unusual to happen. Tiffany Black, Now

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Speaker 2: let's get into her background. During George Floyd Rioting Week

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Speaker 2: back in May of twenty twenty, she posted I was

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Speaker 2: Let everybody do whatever they want. She's an anarchist, She's

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Speaker 2: I talking Tiffany town End black Now, Tiffany black Now

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Speaker 2: No, No, this matters because he's in the fight of

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Speaker 2: We don't know yet. There's several candidates who if there'd

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Speaker 1: Nobody wants to take that chance.

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Speaker 2: So what we need is two candidates in the runoff

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Speaker 1: Now, you think a guy and that kind.

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Speaker 2: Just to quickly recap, she tweeted in twenty twenty that

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Speaker 2: Clearly she doesn't have the stability to be the chief

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll just see what happens.

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Speaker 2: going to go to Jim Ryan, ABC News because Texas

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Speaker 4: Johnny? You make an interesting point. Is it legal? Is

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Speaker 4: and so that's where it was left, Greg Gabbott. As

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Speaker 4: you know, John has said that the Feds haven't been

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Speaker 4: living up to their allegations, so he's taken it upon

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Speaker 4: himself to institute something called Operation Loan Start. It's now

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Speaker 4: I think five and a half billion dollars spent on

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Speaker 4: border security issues here. Now, this is kind of the

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Speaker 4: latest step in this policy that allows local police, sheriffs,

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Speaker 4: deputies and others to arrest people who are in the

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Speaker 4: country illegally. It's a misdemeanor. You go before a judge,

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Speaker 4: you're told to go back to your home country, and

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Speaker 4: if you don't, then you could be charged with a felony.

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Speaker 3: Job.

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Speaker 1: When is it going to be implemented in March?

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Speaker 4: March? Is Mark rugget data?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So there's a lot of time here for a

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Speaker 2: legal battle.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, And you've already got legal battles.

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Speaker 4: There was a lawsuit filed today. Two immigrant rights groups

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Speaker 4: and the county of El Paso County have filed suit,

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Speaker 4: and I'm sure that there are the other suits to come.

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Speaker 2: Is there any anybody know why the surge is getting bigger.

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Speaker 2: It's well supposedly over twelve thousand people today. I don't

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Speaker 2: even know how to count that, but let's assume that

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Speaker 2: that number is somewhere close to accurate. Why why is

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Speaker 2: it getting worse and worse day by day? Is the

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Speaker 2: word just spreaded all over the planet?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think that's it, and you'll hear that from both sides.

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Speaker 4: I think from the Republicans here in Texas and from

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Speaker 4: Democrats elsewhere that there's this sort of message that's scattered

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Speaker 4: around through cartels or through somebody from you know, coyotes,

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Speaker 4: people who smuggle folks into the country, that there's an

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Speaker 4: easy path that you can do this. But I think

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Speaker 4: that's sort of what's behind of it. It's also cyclical.

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Speaker 4: You see changes throughout the year in terms of ebbs

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Speaker 4: and flows of people coming into the country. It's fairly

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Speaker 4: cool right now, which is surprising me. Normally you see

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Speaker 4: this kind of surge in the springtime or the yearly summer,

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Speaker 4: then in the fall, but it's kind of an interesting

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Speaker 4: time of year for this to be happening.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at video both CNN and Fox is running

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Speaker 2: similar video at the same time huge. I don't I

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Speaker 2: don't know what it is. I guess it's at the

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Speaker 2: border and just thousands of people gathered and uh, they're

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Speaker 2: they're they're isolated by these berms so that they're there,

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Speaker 2: I guess that's the border and they can't they they

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Speaker 2: can't climb over the berm and they're just stuck. A

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Speaker 2: lot of them are sitting on the ground. They've got

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Speaker 2: blankets and but it's an enormous crowd. What is that

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Speaker 2: do you know? It's an eagle pass.

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Speaker 4: Eagle paths or past and that's where folks. Uh so

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Speaker 4: those people there in the big crowds of people with

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Speaker 4: families and what are generally those are the folks who

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Speaker 4: are going to make application do so through Customs and

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Speaker 4: Border Protection.

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Speaker 2: So that's like a staging area where they where they're

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Speaker 2: collecting themselves.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, precisely right. And they while they're there, there's

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Speaker 4: an app. Customs wart Protection has an app, a phone app.

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Speaker 4: You fell out your application on your app, you submit

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Speaker 4: that and then essentially tak an electronic number. Then you

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Speaker 4: come across and you start the process here on this

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Speaker 4: side of the border. You know, the folks who are

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Speaker 4: doing so we illegally between the border patrol checkpoints. Those

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Speaker 4: are the ones who who are not gathered in that

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Speaker 4: large group of thousands of people. They're the ones who

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Speaker 4: have already tried to sneak through some of the way

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Speaker 4: and may have actually made it in.

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Speaker 2: All right, Jim, thanks very much. Sure, Jim Ryan with

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Speaker 2: ABC News on Greg Abbott. He is gonna basically declare

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Speaker 2: like a holy war on the federal government here. And

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Speaker 2: you know, going back to that twenty twelve decision, because

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Speaker 2: I remember we went to Arizona when they when they

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Speaker 2: passed the law which said the police could ask for

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Speaker 2: your papers, and of course the progressive idiots turned it

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Speaker 2: into to show me your papers law, but that was

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Speaker 2: actually correct. It was show me your papers because if

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Speaker 2: you're here legally, you'll have some proof of that, you know,

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Speaker 2: some identification, you'll have a green card, you'll have something.

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Speaker 2: And the people without that kind of identification were generally

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Speaker 2: in the country illegally. But the thing is, the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court in that case didn't let a state government enforce

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Speaker 2: immigration law, and so all the states are hamstrung to

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Speaker 2: some extent. Of course, you could decide not to give

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Speaker 2: benefits to illegal immigrants. We've done the opposite here in California.

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Speaker 2: By the way, they're storming into Los Angeles and big

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Speaker 2: numbers two, but we have all kinds of programs and

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Speaker 2: agencies that cater to the migrants. A lot of these

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Speaker 2: other cities have never dealt with this before Los Angeles,

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Speaker 2: like New York and Chicago.

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Speaker 1: And so, I mean, you know, Mayor Eric.

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Speaker 2: Adams is threatening big tax increases in New York City.

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Speaker 2: It's actually quite stunning because he's cutting the police budget,

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Speaker 2: he's cutting the fire budget, he's cutting the education budget,

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Speaker 2: and he's threatening to raise taxes on a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: And his approval rating in New York City is twenty

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Speaker 2: eight percent. And I don't know now, he made it

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Speaker 2: clear that New York was a sanctuary city, and he

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Speaker 2: has never renounced that, never, And so he wonders why

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Speaker 2: he ends up with the twenty eight rating, because even

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Speaker 2: in left wing progressive New York they think he's a

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Speaker 2: crazy person.

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Speaker 1: Why would you.

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Speaker 2: Declare to the world this is a sanctuary. Come on,

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Speaker 2: we'll take care of you. And then when one hundred

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Speaker 2: plus thousand people show up, it's like, well, wait a second,

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Speaker 2: we can't. I didn't mean no, not everybody, not one

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand of you, one hundred thousand by now. But

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Speaker 2: Eric Adams is just not very bright. This is the

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Speaker 2: danger when you have politicians who get involved in these

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Speaker 2: overwhelming issues and they simply don't have the brain power

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Speaker 2: for it. I think any reasonable person you would know,

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Speaker 2: I would know that if you put out a welcome

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Speaker 2: that you can I mean put this. Put a sign

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Speaker 2: up in front of your house anyone passing by, welcome

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Speaker 2: to come in.

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Speaker 1: We'll give you a bed and a meal. Well what

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Speaker 1: do you think is going to happen?

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Speaker 2: In fact, well, why don't you head out your address

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Speaker 2: on business cards at one of these encampments. See what happens.

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Speaker 2: They'll come over your house, just sleep on your floor.

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Speaker 2: They'll they'll eat your food, of course they will. That's

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Speaker 2: that's human nature, right, free food, free bed. Of course

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Speaker 2: they're going to come. And so now he wants he

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Speaker 2: wants to cut the services to the taxpayers and then

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Speaker 2: tell the taxpayers they've got to pay more to accommodate

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Speaker 2: these tens of thousands of migrants who are here illegally.

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Speaker 1: Gee, why do I have a twenty eight percent? I

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Speaker 1: don't understand.

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