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Speaker 1: At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back. I am Dale Lolly, he is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt it is now time for the

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Speaker 2: Fantasy Football Focus. I'm the champion. But our DFS lineup yesterday, yes,

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Speaker 2: performed quite well. We finished ninth overall in the bracket

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Speaker 2: that we were in with one hundred and seventy four

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Speaker 2: point to two points.

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Speaker 3: Could any Lions screw us up tonight or anything?

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Speaker 2: No, we've already we didn't have the month away game Monday,

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Speaker 2: and that was your Saturday Sunday matchup that we do

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Speaker 2: on Friday. We had Bryce Young in the lineup sixteen

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Speaker 2: point two points, only eight point eight percent ownership. We

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Speaker 2: had Bucky Irving in the lineup, well, fifty point nine

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Speaker 2: percent of the people have Bucky Irving a lot. Whoever's

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Speaker 2: playing the Panthers goes into the lineup and he had

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Speaker 2: twenty six points. Could have had so much more?

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Speaker 3: Could have? Yeah, I mean they were Today was rookie

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Speaker 3: Day in the NFL, too, or Fantasy Rookie Day was

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Speaker 3: they were all on five huge. He's been great.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of which, Tyrone Tracy was in the lineup of

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Speaker 2: seven percent ownership, didn't blow up but had nine point

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Speaker 2: three points. Mike Evans, who we pivoted to when we

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Speaker 2: switched to the Browns defensive. That's why you check out

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Speaker 2: the YouTube channel because I put that on.

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Speaker 3: There, did you nice?

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Speaker 2: I did to let everybody know that we were making

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Speaker 2: that adjustment. We switched to Mike Evans when we went

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Speaker 2: to the Browns defense, which saved us some money. And

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Speaker 2: Mike Evans.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Mike Evans eight for ninety seven and two touchdowns, twenty

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Speaker 2: nine point seven points, seventeen point five percent ownership. Adam

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Speaker 2: Thielen thirty one points. He was sixteen point seven percent

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Speaker 2: ownership and was a solid play at fifty seven hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley at fifty five hundred, fourteen point one points.

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Speaker 2: He had five catches for eighty four yards and seven

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Speaker 3: That was nice and pickup Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Paint Durham eight point eight percent ownership, twenty nine hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: We get eleven point six points out of pain Durham

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Speaker 2: two catches for thirty six yards and a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: That's big.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor thirty point six points at thirty two point

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Speaker 2: five percent ownership, that's who we had in the flex.

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Speaker 2: He was extremely good. And then the Browns defense got

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Speaker 2: us five points on twenty four hundred dollars expenditure on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's nice winner there. Yeah, good stuff.

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Speaker 2: And we pivoted off the Titans defense, I believe, and

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Speaker 2: they were bad.

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Speaker 3: They were bad, bad yeah. Yeah, so that worked out well. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was huge, So.

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Speaker 2: Another winner for us. We've been on a little bit

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Speaker 2: as older. Yeah, kind of like my fantasy team on

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Speaker 2: a roll.

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Speaker 3: Interesting one point.

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Speaker 2: Looking at this week's top performers, it's kind of all over.

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Speaker 3: The place this week. Weird week.

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Speaker 2: Of course, seven players through for three hundred yards. Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrow had four to twelve and three touchdowns. He got

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Speaker 3: But there are lines a bit of shambles right now.

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Speaker 3: He was under under but right tackle went out. You know,

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Speaker 3: they got some issues.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Orlando Brown junior.

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Speaker 3: He's probably their best guy. Yeah, it's not great.

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Speaker 2: Uh, he had four twelve and three touchdowns. Sam Darnold

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Speaker 2: three seventy seven three touchdowns, one interception in that win

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Speaker 2: over Green Bay. Baker Mayfield three fifty nine and five touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: So fire that Bucky Irvick score one of those. Joe

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Speaker 2: Flacco three thirty and two touchdowns, two interceptions, far from great.

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Speaker 2: The fumbley, yeah he was not, he was. This was

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Speaker 2: This was the same stuff to Burrow that the Flacco

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Speaker 3: Though. Oh, he's very Jamis Winston esque at the stage

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Speaker 2: Uh, Kyler Murray had three twenty one but only one touchdown,

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Speaker 3: It has not been a great year for him. I'm

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Speaker 3: sure they're gonna go into next year with them and

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Speaker 3: all that, but they can't be super thrilled with their

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Speaker 2: No, Patrick Mahomes three twenty and three touchdowns against the Steelers,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and he played well though, I mean he's

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Speaker 2: It was a lot of catch and run.

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Speaker 3: Neighbors, a ton of you know right, and they knew

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Speaker 3: going with football and just a bad defense. Yeah, they

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Speaker 3: should make I'm not saying this would make a head

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert just missed. He had two to eighty one

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Speaker 2: So it drops off considerably after those top ten performances.

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Speaker 2: And then Jayden Daniels last night two twenty seven and

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Speaker 2: we're tied.

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Speaker 3: There's lots of what ifs.

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Speaker 2: That's all you got to deal with now the rest

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Speaker 3: I'll be go to sleep at night.

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Speaker 2: Looking at the rushing leaders for this week. We had

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Speaker 2: seven one hundred yard rushers. Saquon Barkley thirty one for

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Speaker 3: might be. The Giants won or Saints thirty two in

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Speaker 3: we're going to do it tomorrow, might Jets in there.

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Speaker 2: To Bucky Irving twenty for one thirteen. You had Rico

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Speaker 3: Say that was a lot of empty calories there. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Spears just missed at twenty for ninety five. Bijon had

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Speaker 2: then Lamar Jackson had four for eighty seven and a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Two quarterbacks in there, Yeah, never hurts to have that.

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Speaker 2: No receivers. You had twelve one hundred yard receivers. Malik

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Speaker 2: Neighbors led the way seven for one to seventy one

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Speaker 3: I wonder how high Pookah goes in drafts next year.

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Speaker 3: There's not many receivers I'm taking over that aren't named

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Speaker 3: Chaser Jefferson. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Trey McBride had twelve for one to twenty three in a.

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Speaker 3: Score, got in the end zone. In the end zone, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Alec Pierce six for one to twenty two in a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Michael Pittman nine for one oh nine in a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: He finally looks healthy. Too little too late for the

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Speaker 3: Colt or for your fantasy team, probably, but Drake free

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Speaker 2: I think so they signed him before the season started.

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Speaker 2: Drake London seven for one oh six, Tyreek Hill nine

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Speaker 2: Marvin Mims Junior against that Cincinnati defense had eight for

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Speaker 2: Fifty one yards, but still they gave it up. Oh,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they always do.

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Speaker 3: Mimes has come on a little bit. I think they're

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Speaker 2: Chase said nine for one oh two didn't score. Mike

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Speaker 2: Evans just missed with the eight for ninety seven and

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Speaker 2: two touchdowns. Marvin Harrison Junior just missed with six for

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Speaker 2: four seven point eight yards per catch. Uh, Ladd McConkie

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Speaker 2: Jefferson eight for ninety two and didn't score. So there's

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Speaker 2: some guys on it. Brian Thomas seven for ninety one.

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Speaker 2: Other big game for him in a touchdown to your point,

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Speaker 2: Gaziki had ten for eighty six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah game, Yeah, seem like a lot of it early. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, he's there. He is their third receiver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's there.

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Speaker 3: Slot the slot, the slot.

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Speaker 2: He should just have a slut w R next to

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Speaker 2: those names. No ever. So that's the top performers from

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Speaker 3: And pretty solid, solid dance you brung you guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: not a lot of crazy from left field, you know, guys.

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Speaker 2: So congratulations if you won your championship. If you're playing

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Speaker 2: again this week, I got to ask the question.

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Speaker 3: Why it's bonkers to me? I'm sure some people were

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Speaker 3: waiting on the Lions tonight too though, Yeah, probably quite

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Speaker 2: And and you know, this is a game that I'm

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Speaker 2: you know, if you got Lions, go and fire them up.

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Speaker 3: I assume they'll play the whole time, fire up Kittle

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Speaker 3: they said they're going to. I wouldn't defy with the Lions.

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Speaker 3: I mean I would rest everything for next week. But

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Speaker 3: they're wired.

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Speaker 2: They could win this game. Well I guess they can.

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Speaker 3: They can lose this one, but yeah, it doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: a thing to them. Yeah, but you're still short week

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Speaker 3: to go play for the division. Title next week? Could

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Speaker 3: they already play them half? I mean, I think he

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Speaker 3: said we're just going full systems go.

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Speaker 2: But does it matter if they lose it because Philly won?

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Speaker 3: No, I think it all the matters is their game

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Speaker 3: next week for the division title, Okay, and that that

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Speaker 3: ends up being the one seed too, it really means zero.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, but you already have them in

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Speaker 2: At this point, I'm sure Dan Campbell's looking at this

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Speaker 2: one we can't have. We can't. There's nobody else on

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Speaker 3: So I just think it's his mentality that we're going

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Speaker 3: Out to Oh no, it's starting to be heavy draft season.

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Speaker 3: We've got college playoffs a bunch of these Knights too,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But let's get to another break. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, I am Dale Lolly the Champion, and uh well,

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Speaker 1: At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and this is the drive on the Steelers Audio network

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Speaker 2: in Matt. Because the game has been moved to Saturday

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Speaker 3: That's what the Steelers'.

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Speaker 2: Schedule now, says Mike Tomlin held his press conference today.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can at least press Higgins or Chase,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tackle the catch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, systems go.

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Speaker 3: No, that's great. I mean you get a little bit

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Speaker 2: ten against Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: That didn't evaporate after one game.

440
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 2: No, that one game doesn't fix that doesn't cure it.

441
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Speaker 3: No, I just think or Houston's really limping into the

442
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 3: playoffs right now. Yeah, not to mention their biggest issues

443
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 3: or OWD line stuff that the Steelers would thrive against.

444
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,120
Speaker 2: Well, that brings me, you said, limping into the playoffs.

445
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,919
Speaker 2: That brings me to a point. I tweeted something out

446
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 2: last week and somebody said, well, the Steelers are backing

447
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 2: into the playoffs. No, they're not backing into the playoffs.

448
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 2: They cliched the playoffs, but three weeks ago they're not

449
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 2: backing into the playoffs. Backing into the playoffs would be

450
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 2: what would happen if if Denver lost this week and

451
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and Miami both lost. The Broncos will be backing

452
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:57,919
Speaker 2: into the playoffs.

453
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Speaker 3: That you need someone to and that's happened to Steelers before.

454
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 3: You know, you're waiting for Jacksonville or whoever to win

455
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 3: or lose, and then you get in where it's not

456
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 3: you don't control your own you know, path, you.

457
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 2: Don't control the situation. You're just hoping for other things

458
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 2: to happen. The Steelers are in the playoffs and have

459
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 2: been in the playoffs for the better part of a month.

460
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 2: You know, they earned that over the course of the season.

461
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 2: And you know what you said earlier about the situation here.

462
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Speaker 2: I mean if you look at the Bengals schedule from

463
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 2: this season, you can look at their schedule and there's

464
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Speaker 2: some similarities there to what happened to them.

465
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Speaker 3: You know, you mentioned a rough patch they had. They

466
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 3: had a five game stretch there where they only win

467
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Speaker 3: was a Raiders.

468
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Speaker 2: So they lost their first three games of the season,

469
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Speaker 2: lost of the Patriots, lost of the Chiefs, lost of

470
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Speaker 2: the Commanders.

471
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Speaker 3: Okay, Patriots was Opening Day.

472
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they come back and they beat the Carolina Panthers.

473
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,120
Speaker 3: That's when Young was getting bench and they were terble to.

474
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Speaker 2: They then lose to the Baltimore Ravens to fall to

475
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Speaker 2: one and four, so they lost three out of four there.

476
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 2: Then they come back and they beat the Giants, they

477
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 2: beat the Browns. Now they're three and four. Then they

478
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 2: lose to the Eagles. Got smoked at home by the Eagles,

479
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 2: by the way, thirty seven to seventeen.

480
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 3: They got crushed in that game.

481
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 2: Then they beat the Raiders, come back and beat the Raiders.

482
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,479
Speaker 2: Next three games, lose to Baltimore, lose to the Chargers,

483
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 2: they have their bye week, and they lose to the Steelers.

484
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 2: So three losses in a row to three playoff teams,

485
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Speaker 2: four out of five. If you look at the game

486
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 2: against the Eagles that they lost. The playoff teams.

487
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Speaker 3: A six week stretch where you only win is the

488
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 3: Raiders and one's bye, you can't get them. But still

489
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 3: it's a month and a half where your only wins

490
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Speaker 3: against the Raiders.

491
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Speaker 2: So you know this four game winning streak that they

492
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 2: have against Dallas, Tennessee, Cleveland, and Denver, well, yeah, it

493
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 2: looks good and it's good for them. They started the

494
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 2: season slowly. They had a really bad stretch in the

495
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 2: middle of the season where they lost four out of

496
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Speaker 2: five and now they've they've beaten up on some teams

497
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 2: that it's a murders rose nor a nice win. Yeah,

498
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 2: is a nice win there. But this is not a

499
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 2: team that that you know, is barnstorming its way into

500
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Speaker 2: the playoffs.

501
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think there's a misconception that, hey, I've said

502
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Speaker 3: this and I'll stand by it. I don't want to

503
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 3: see Burrow in the in the playoffs.

504
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 2: Right, sitting at home dangerous.

505
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 3: But they're not the cliche team that if they get in,

506
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 3: they're the team no one wants to play. No, I mean,

507
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 3: I don't think.

508
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 2: Every offensive coordinator is looking at that going, yeah, I

509
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: wouldn't mind facing that defense as supposed to Denver's right, right, right.

510
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if they're better or worse than Denver

511
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 3: or the Chargers, but they're not the team that, oh man,

512
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 3: I hope they don't get in because they're gonna win

513
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 3: at all. I mean, no, they've got issues.

514
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 2: This is what their defense is given up this year. Okay,

515
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 2: two ninety against New England, but it was to ninety

516
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 2: against New England England. They only gave up two eighty

517
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: six against the Chiefs in Week two, but then they

518
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,479
Speaker 2: give up three fifty six, three seventy five, five twenty

519
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,959
Speaker 2: it with the Ravens, and that was against the Ravens.

520
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: Three zero nine against the Giants. That's not great. No,

521
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 2: three thirty six against the Browns they won that game,

522
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 2: three ninety seven against the Eagles, they held the Raiders

523
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: to two seventeen. That was when they weren't even starting

524
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 2: O'Connell at that point. Okay, three eighty nine to the Ravens,

525
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: four thirty five to the Chargers, five twenty to the Steelers,

526
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Speaker 2: as they given up over five hundred yards twice, three

527
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: twenty two to the Cowboys, three seventy four to the Titans,

528
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 2: three seventy four to the Titans.

529
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, not great. No, that's recently.

530
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: Two seventy three to the Browns with DTR and then

531
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 2: three twenty nine against the Broncos on US on Saturday Night.

532
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 3: I mean, there's so how many was that one three

533
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 3: twenty ninety.

534
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some outlier games there where they gave up,

535
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Speaker 2: you know, two seventeen to the Raiders and you know,

536
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: things like that. It's been a bad defense all season long.

537
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 3: All season long, and nothing got fixed from last year.

538
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 3: And it goes back to laugh year. I mean, remember

539
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 3: that everyone blamed the safeties and they're gonna signed Gino

540
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 3: Stone and bring back Von Bell and get back to

541
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 3: being a top defense. It's been arguably the worst defense

542
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 3: in the league now. The defense.

543
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the one thing that it has done during this

544
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 2: little four game winning streak here turn yeah two turnovers

545
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: force that's Dallas.

546
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

547
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: Six against the Titans, they turned the Titans over six

548
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: times and won thirty seven to twenty seven.

549
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, against a bad football.

550
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 2: Against a bad football team. They turned the Browns over

551
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: three times.

552
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 3: I think they had six sacks in that game too.

553
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 3: It's the only game they've had a lot of sac

554
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: production and.

555
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 2: The Broncos turned it over one more time in that one.

556
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 3: So they have created some big players, they've.

557
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: Created some plays here, and that's kind of helped them

558
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: win some of these games, because before that they were

559
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: a five hundred is turnover ratio team.

560
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, no, that has been better and you

561
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 3: can kind of live that way, you know, and they're

562
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: proven it. They've won four in a row. That if

563
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 3: you have an elite offense and a bad defense that

564
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 3: at least make splash plays, sacks and turnovers. Okay, you'll

565
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 3: be in games against good teams, you know. I mean,

566
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 3: that's a hard way to live, but it's heck a

567
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 3: lot better than just getting steamrolled on defense time and

568
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: time again. Yeah. Yeah, so, but there's nothing I'm worried

569
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 3: about with the defense, no way, or anything like that.

570
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: Again, you know, when's coming out of that game against

571
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: the Bengals, when the Steelers put up five hundred and

572
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 2: twenty yards of offense and put forty four points on

573
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: the board, nobody was talking about this offense really stinks,

574
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 2: they can't do it. That was the exact opposite. Wow,

575
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 2: look at this offense. This gives them a chance to win.

576
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 2: Now you've gone and you have played three really good

577
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 2: football teams and you've lost to those teams. Yeah, and

578
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: all of a sudden the offense stinks.

579
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. I actually think from an optimistic point of view,

580
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 3: there's a couple of things on offense that are trending

581
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 3: the right direction. Absolutely. First off, the running game. And

582
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 3: I'll be the first to admit that the last series

583
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 3: that Nausee had you gained like forty or fifty yards

584
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 3: against nobody. But if you take that out, but they

585
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 3: were running the ball in that game. The running game

586
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 3: I think is trending up. Now I needs to keep going.

587
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 3: I mean, that's going to be your foundation. But I

588
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 3: think Warren looks great, and THEO line's been fine and

589
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 3: the blocking has been fine, and part of it's because

590
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: Pickens was out, But I still think Austin and Friarmouth

591
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 3: are trending up, and clearly Warren is. I mean that

592
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 3: kind of goes hand in hand with the run game.

593
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 3: But if you can cut down on the sacks and

594
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 3: you can get Pickens back to being a productive like

595
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,479
Speaker 3: he usually is, I don't think the offense and all

596
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 3: of a sudden is oh, that's the back Canada offense,

597
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: just like we said, no, no, you know right, I mean,

598
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 3: this isn't what it's better than what we've been used

599
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 3: to by far well.

600
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: And that's a valid point that you bring up there.

601
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 2: So if you think back to it, George Pickens played

602
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: in the game against the Bengals, tore them up. Yeah, yeah,

603
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 2: didn't play the next week against the Browns. That was

604
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: he said. You know, he sat got hurt there on

605
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: Thursday and didn't play, didn't play against the Eagles, came back,

606
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: didn't play. I'm sorry, didn't play against the Ravens, missed

607
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: those three games, came back and played against the Chiefs.

608
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: But he came back and played against the Chiefs. They

609
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: had won practice.

610
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 3: Oh right, right right, He didn't practice all week and

611
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 3: then didn't play. Right.

612
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: This has been a situation where now he should be

613
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 2: fully healed from everything, so he's going to get practice

614
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 2: time to work with Russell Wilson on the time. Could

615
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: you lose some of your timing over a month when

616
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: you don't play, and I expect him to go out

617
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: and tear up the Bengals.

618
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 3: I would be shocked if he doesn't, and I'd be

619
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 3: shocked if Wilson doesn't. I think Wilson has a good

620
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 3: game here if you look at I mean, we're not

621
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 3: going to do it, but if you were to rank

622
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: all the fifty three active roster Steelers, who benefits the

623
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: most from this long week, I think Wilson's near the

624
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: top of the list. I think Pickens is absolutely near

625
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: the top of the list. The injured guys, you know Porterscronic.

626
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: I'm sure Cam is great as he's playing, and he

627
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: was really really good in the past game two, even

628
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: it's Chiefs. I'm sure his older body is pretty happy

629
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: about the break.

630
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know any of the ad guys, Yeah, absolutely,

631
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: any of those. And if you remember that first matchup

632
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: against the Bengals, Nagee. Harris had six catches for fifty

633
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: four yards, Corderyo Patterson had three for thirty seven, and

634
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: Jaylen Warren had four for fifty five. Warren only had

635
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: three carries for nine yards in that game. Yeah, that

636
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: was like the last time that they really didn't use

637
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: him as a runner because they were just having so

638
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: much success throwing the ball on first downs.

639
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 3: Like first right, I would hope, I mean I would

640
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 3: assume the Bengals are gonna not have the same game plan. Yeah,

641
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 3: I mean remember all those running back middle of the

642
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: field hit and you know that's six for sixty eight. Yeah,

643
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: a lot of over the middle stuff, you know, Tampa

644
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: to the linebackers running deep downfield and you just throw

645
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: at the warrants.

646
00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: Who they are.

647
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't imagine they're going to give that up

648
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: as easily. But that means they're going to sick.

649
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: I means you're going to give them something deep to

650
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: pickings in.

651
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: Possibly, possibly, but right, I can't imagine. I mean, they're

652
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: they're running back receiving production against is really bad. But man,

653
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 3: that was almost crazy. That was steel Is that not?

654
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 3: How do you want to make an adjustment during the game?

655
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was stealing in the game. Yeah, because Harris

656
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: had his six catches on six targets, Patterson had his

657
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: three catches on three targets, and Warren had his four

658
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: catches on four. You were you were thirteen for thirteen

659
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: for over one hundred yards just tossing the ball to

660
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: the running.

661
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 3: Backstended handoffs, pass the line of scrimmage with nobody, not

662
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 3: a line of scrimmage worth of people to break tackles from.

663
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 2: The most incompletions in that game, really they were three.

664
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Speaker 2: He was three for six targeting Pickings. Pickings had three

665
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: catches for seventy four yards and a touchdown. Everybody else

666
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: farm With had six catches on seven targets. Van Jefferson

667
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: won for three, all right, Calvin Austin two for two,

668
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: Scuronic was one for one, Malcole Pruitt was two for three,

669
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: and Darnell Washington was one for one. Like, you didn't

670
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: have many incompletions unless they were deep balls down down

671
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: the field. Right, if they're going to give.

672
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 3: You that, and I don't know how they possibly can

673
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 3: because it was such a losing formula last time.

674
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: I just think that's they are so afraid of giving

675
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: up the long passes. And they've always played this way.

676
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: If you remember Friarmouth last season, his one big game

677
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: was ten catches against the Bengals. I think it was

678
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: ten catches on ten targets, everything right there over the

679
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: middle of the field because they just give it up.

680
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and their tackling was really poor in that game too,

681
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: And I don't know.

682
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they trust the offense and much. Okay, we don't

683
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: want you to score quickly and easily because we wanted

684
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: to try to turn you over at some point.

685
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 3: Right right, right. That's they've been fortunate in the last

686
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 3: couple games. They've been doing some of that.

687
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: But we can't give up the quick one, no, because

688
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: you're not getting any chance to turn anybody over on that.

689
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 3: No. And they don't trust their corners or safeties all

690
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: that much either. They soon good players. Yeah, I mean

691
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: it really comes down to that. On defense, their personnel

692
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 3: is poor, and you know we've talked about this big

693
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: picture stuff. I mean I'm being kind to say they

694
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: need five or six new starters. I mean, I think

695
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: it's like eight, folks.

696
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: This is Matt not Dale making fun of the Bengals

697
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: on defense here.

698
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 3: No, it's just sad. I forget who I was listened

699
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 3: to some of the covers them is talking about they

700
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 3: got five or six defensive starters that are definitely going

701
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 3: to get cut for cap reasons, you know, Like it's

702
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: just it's not a even an argument at this point.

703
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: When they just put Sheldon Rankins on the reserve non

704
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: football in this.

705
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 3: List, does that mean he's definitely not playing this game.

706
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: Definitely not playing, Okay, Like he's probably their best guy

707
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: or one of the best.

708
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 3: Guys, their best interior per year. Probably, I mean, then

709
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: he's okay, you know, yeah, I mean if you I mean,

710
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 3: they really need the Dax Hills and Miles Murphy's and

711
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: all those draft picks to start coming around next year.

712
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: If I were them, if I'm if I'm coaching, like

713
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 2: I'm looking at if I'm going coaching the Bengals, I'm

714
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor going into this weekend, I'm looking at this going, Okay,

715
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: is Kansas or Kansas City's backups gonna beat Denver?

716
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 3: Probably don't.

717
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: Probably not, but they they're eight point underdogs. The Broncos

718
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: are no in the C because they're not playing anybody. Yeah, yeah,

719
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: not only do I need them to lose that game,

720
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: but then I also need Miami to lose to the Jets,

721
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: and then I need to win this game. In piss,

722
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play my young guys. I'm gonna play the Miles.

723
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: Murphy's of the more snaps than I typically and I

724
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: don't know what they are.

725
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 3: Maybe. I mean, I think you got to do everything

726
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 3: possible to win the game. I get it you're playing first.

727
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: But what you've been putting out there defensively, yeah, isn't working.

728
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 3: No, it's not. I don't know if this is the

729
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: game to do that, but it's a good conversation. I mean,

730
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: there has to be some big picture thinking about the defense.

731
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 3: I need to know about some of these guys because

732
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: they're a lot of incomplete grades on some of those dudes.

733
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: And there's been some injuries. Both the Michigan defensive backs

734
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 3: have been hurt a lot this year, so you don't

735
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: know as much more about it.

736
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 2: Well, and Murphy almost he has to start because Sam

737
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: Humber's on He's out Hubbard's out too, So you're starting

738
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 2: Miles Murphy. Yeah, yeah, Miles, You're you're gonna. I mean,

739
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: they can put Joseph Asai out there, which they do,

740
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: and he's okay, but I'd rather see what Miles Murphy is,

741
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: get him another games experience here.

742
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: I definitely get your point. But by no means am

743
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 3: I playing lesser players just for future development?

744
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 1: No?

745
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: No, I mean, but here's their problem is is all

746
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 2: they're good young guys, A lot of them. Dak Shill's

747
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: on IR, DJ Turner's on IR. I mean, Logan Wilson's

748
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 2: has been on IR.

749
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 3: Like, they're even the guys who can kind of count

750
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: on even if they haven't lived up to expectations or

751
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 3: at least he had high hopes for still or the

752
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 3: book's not written on them. You don't know anymore.

753
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're playing Jordan battle over von Bellt

754
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: like it. That's kind of where they're at. Yeah, Josh

755
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: Newton's already in the lineup, like, but.

756
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: I mean, other than Hendrickson, no one's really playing well

757
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 3: on defense.

758
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so they're kind of they are what they are.

759
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: Again, they're gonna if they can turn you over, if

760
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 3: they could get some sacks. That's been the formula on defense.

761
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 3: That's the only thing that's been better on defense than

762
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 3: when we saw these guys last Yeah, you know what

763
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: I mean. So that's and that's significant, but it's also

764
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 3: come for the ball and arms way, you know. Yeah.

765
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyways, let's get to another break. He is the

766
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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. You're listening to the

767
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Speaker 2: Drive on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will

768
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: be back to finish up the show right after this,

769
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: at least.

770
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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

771
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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

772
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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

773
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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolli. He is

774
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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive on the

775
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network. And Bill Barmwell, Matt put out an article.

776
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 3: Yeah I didn't read it.

777
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 2: Weeksn uh the teams nobody wants to face in the playoffs.

778
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 3: We've kind of made that joke about the Bengals.

779
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, of course the Bengals are one of those

780
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: teams in there. We say that, and I used to

781
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: say some similar things about the Steelers on some years

782
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: when they didn't make the Playoffsky in the Killer be era.

783
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 3: When you think about it, like, I mean, I don't

784
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 3: want play against benon.

785
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: Like twenty eighteen when they went nine to six and

786
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: one and didn't get in, like that was it. That

787
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: was a good football team that had some injury and issues.

788
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: If they would have gotten in the playoffs, could they

789
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: go and win a game? Absolutely, that's kind of the

790
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 2: situation with an Arrow and Company.

791
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 3: But I guarantee the Steeler defenses were better than this one. Yes, yes,

792
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,959
Speaker 3: I mean it's a respectable not bottom five defense.

793
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, you know, so there's that. Somebody on

794
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: the on our message board said, you know, because I

795
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: mentioned something about Mahomes and they said, well, you know

796
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: you said the Steelers like Mahomes. Yeah, they like Mahomes.

797
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: They brought him in for a visit that you know,

798
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 2: Kevin Colbert loved him.

799
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 3: He said.

800
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: The drafts, Yeah, folks, well, why why didn't they Why

801
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 2: didn't they move up like the Chiefs did. I'm like, well,

802
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: first of all, the Chiefs were drafting ahead of them.

803
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: Was an earlier first round, had earlier first round. It

804
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 2: wasn't much earlier, but it was earlier. The Steelers, if

805
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: if you remember that year, were picking thirtieth because they

806
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: made the AFC Championship Game the year before by oh

807
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 2: by the way, beating the Chiefs in one of those games.

808
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: That's what year. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, So they

809
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: did just fine.

810
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: They did fine. Roethlisberger was thirty five. Nobody knew he

811
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: was going to blow his elbow out the next year.

812
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, to say the timing, they weren't you weren't desperate

813
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: need of a quarterback at that point, but he was

814
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 3: older and you were starting to look Yeah, I mean,

815
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 3: he was a great guy. I mean you could see

816
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: what of course I almost said, you could see why they

817
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 3: like Mahomes. Well, yeah, you can see what like Mahomes there.

818
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: But to move all the way up to ten, when

819
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: you still had thirty five year old, you know, you

820
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: still had Roethlisberger putting up four thousand yards and twenty

821
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 2: eight touchdown passes. The Chiefs were in a different spot.

822
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,479
Speaker 3: I'd say they probably would.

823
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: They had figured out that they weren't going to win

824
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: with Alex Smith. They could win enough to get into

825
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: the playoffs, but they weren't. They weren't gonna be good

826
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: enough to do anything beyond that, and Alex Smith at

827
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 2: that point was thirty four or thirty five.

828
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 3: My hunch is Steelers were not in trade up mode period.

829
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: I mean maybe two spots.

830
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he gets to twenty five, yeah, maybe we'll trade.

831
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: Up to go get him, but not trading next year's

832
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 3: first or whatever.

833
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: Because the thing is, if you do that now the

834
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 2: pressure is on. First of all, how does Roethlisberger react

835
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: to that?

836
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 3: Oh?

837
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was ticked off. They drafted Mason Rudolph like

838
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: in the third round. How does he react to you

839
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: trading up for a quarterback? It would be almost like

840
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: the Aaron Rodgers Jordan Love stuff.

841
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 3: But heavier because I know it costs the Chiefs the future. First. Yeah,

842
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 3: and it probably would have cost you. It definitely would

843
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 3: have cost you more to move up from thirty to ten.

844
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 3: I mean, of course it would have been the right

845
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 3: move looking back and mean, I'll give you ten first

846
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: round for Mahomes, of course, but at the time that's

847
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: not where they were at. I mean, it could have

848
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 3: ended up being Watson or whoever. I mean, like, trading

849
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 3: up for a quarterback at that ero wasn't the move yet.

850
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 2: Not yet no, no, not yet. Yeah, I mean you

851
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: just couldn't. You couldn't afford to go up a that high.

852
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: But b again, what it would do inside your own

853
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: locker room? Yeah yeah, yeah, would perhaps tear your team

854
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 2: apart to a degree, because again, Roethlisberger, you still had Pouncy,

855
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: you still had Foster, you still had that offensive line

856
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 2: unit that was there, that was very much in Roethlisberger's corner.

857
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

858
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you make a deal like that, it's

859
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: a seismic shift. It's a seismic shift. And no, by

860
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: the way, you wouldn't have gotten TJ.

861
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 3: Watt true true, which next year's first and whatever else

862
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 3: would have been part of the package.

863
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: And then you would if you do, you know, you

864
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: wouldn't gotten TJ. Watt. Now the next year, you couldn't

865
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: have made to move up to go get Devin Bush. Okay,

866
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: that's I get it. Hindsight's twenty twenty on that one.

867
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: But Devin Bush went where Devin Bush was supposed to go.

868
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, everyone thought he was ten. Pick him

869
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 3: and Devin White.

870
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, neither one of them worked out. No, that's just

871
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: how the draft goes, right, No, I I get a.

872
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: Kick out of draft hindsight because I tried to pride

873
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: myself and remembering where all these teams were at the time, Yeah,

874
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: and knowing that all of us don't know who what

875
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 3: players are gonna be good and bad? You know what

876
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, well, this is why they didn't make

877
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 3: the move, or you know, they weren't in the market

878
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: to trade up, or boy, they really needed a nose tackle,

879
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: or their guards are the worst in the league, or

880
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: you know, for any team that is in around the league.

881
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: It's easy to say, why didn't everyone trade to one

882
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 3: to get my homes? If you're gonna trade that far,

883
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 3: why not go to one? Yeah, I mean right right,

884
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 3: you know, like I'm proud of myself because I had

885
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 3: my homes, my number one quarterback that year, I would

886
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 3: have traded for one to one for them, you know,

887
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 3: I mean the Browns weren't offering Miles Garrett for him,

888
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: you know that spot. Yeah, you know, I don't know.

889
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: Draft hindsight is a slippery slogs.

890
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: It's like the Lamar Jackson stuff because the Steelers, the

891
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: Steelers didn't take Lamar Jackson the next year, and I

892
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 2: distinctly remember in my next to last mock draft I do.

893
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: I was, I'm still working with DK Pittsburgh Sports at

894
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: that time, and I would do a mock draft, like

895
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 2: starting with the month leading up to the draft. I

896
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: did a different mock draft every month or every.

897
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: Week, like the whole first round or the Steelers.

898
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: The whole first round. Okay, And I remember mocking Lamar

899
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: Jackson the last, the next to last mock draft that

900
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 2: I did. I mocked Lamar Jackson to the Steelers, and

901
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: I got called every name in the book, told how

902
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: dumb I was. Why would they ever do that. They've

903
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: got Ben Roethlisberger. Yeah, he's not any good, and I'm like,

904
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: all right, I think he's a good quarterback.

905
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was also my number one that year, and

906
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: it would have it would have been the right pick,

907
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 3: of course, but that's super highsight, I mean, obviously, and

908
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 3: he could get rushed in at Baltimore either no, you know,

909
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: he did not, which would have been great for him here.

910
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 3: He probably could have hung out a year while Ben

911
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: was there and probably not have been thrilled.

912
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: But imagine they would have had him in twenty nineteen

913
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: when yeah, things went you know, when Roethlisberger towards elbow.

914
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 3: Right, right right, Well, that's that's the move that one's

915
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 3: more logical than trading up for Mahomes or for anyone.

916
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: I mean not knowing, not even knowing who the names.

917
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: Are, you know, but it's just the hindsight stuff.

918
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: Is I have no idea if they liked Lamar or not.

919
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: I don't think he was for a visit, but I'm

920
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 3: sure they had great respect for him.

921
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: Mike Tolman had dinner with him.

922
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: I know that. Yeah, with.

923
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: Everything that happened this weekend, Yeah, the draft order got

924
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: stood on its head, got stood on his head.

925
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 3: Number one.

926
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, so you got the Patriots now by doing

927
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: nothing but losing some more getting the number one overall pick.

928
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 2: They're not going to be in a quarterback market, no,

929
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 2: but they could say bring it.

930
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Yeah. So the people that I trust that

931
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: I've listened to, again, I haven't dug into the deep

932
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 3: ended draft. I think Travis Hunter is the best player

933
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 3: in this draft, and he's special, and they absolutely could

934
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: use a receiver and a complementary corner to Gonzalez. I

935
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 3: mean every team could use Hunter. That's great. I would

936
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: field offers. I mean I knew this, everyone knew this.

937
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: But when you watch the standalone game this week against

938
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: the Chargers and just the names that are out there

939
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 3: for them, it's pretty bad. It's really bad. I mean

940
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 3: I even threw it on Twitter hoping that some Patriots

941
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: fans would that would help it help me on this.

942
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 3: I'm like, besides May and Gonzalez, who are my foundational

943
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: players here? I mean, like, who am I excited about

944
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 3: for the next five to ten years? Not Pop Douglas, No, right,

945
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 3: I mean, no one on the O line. Ramandre Stevenson's fine,

946
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 3: but by the time they're good, he won't be. And

947
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 3: he's a fumbler, you know, like Barmore would have been

948
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 3: that guy, but he's got all these off the field

949
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 3: medical concerns and he hasn't been great since he's been back.

950
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 3: Kyle Duggar's fine. I mean I'm reaching here. Who the

951
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: foundational dudes that have any value on this team. Doesn't

952
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 3: look like it's Jalen Polk. I want the DJ Moore

953
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 3: for Bryce Young deal.

954
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean something along those lines.

955
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it could certainly be a receiver that comes

956
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 3: my way too. Yeah.

957
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: Tennessee is now two.

958
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 3: I bet they're all of a sudden in the quarterback market.

959
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: They can say whatever they want. Yeah, they're probably pretty

960
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 3: happy to be too.

961
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: The Browns are now three. Yeah, the Giants went from

962
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 2: one all the way down to four, even though they

963
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: have three wins, just like the teams ahead of them.

964
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

965
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you got four teams now with three wins?

966
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: Do we think three of those four teams are all

967
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 2: quarterback needy? If the Browns is something dumb, here's the thing.

968
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: I don't love this quarterback class.

969
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: I'd say it is it worth it to go all

970
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 3: in on these guys either, I wouldn't know that yet.

971
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: I like cam I like cam Ward the best.

972
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

973
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: I think Sanders is massively overrated.

974
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 3: I'm not super impressed with either, but maybe they'll grow

975
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 3: on me as i'd learn more. I'll be the first thing.

976
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 3: I'm sort of ignorant on how yeah good they are.

977
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 3: But man, this seems like not the year to mortgage

978
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 3: the farm to go to one.

979
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: No, I mean I get it. If it's you know,

980
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 2: you sell yourself, you can talk yourself into liking anybody.

981
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

982
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: Jacksonville is now five. They move down two spots to five.

983
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: Then you have a six The four and twelfth Carolina Panthers.

984
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: Bet spot to be for them best defensive player available

985
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: or whatever.

986
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: Seven is the Jets. They're a team that could trade.

987
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: Up for that quarterbacks. Yeah, they could do something stupid.

988
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, or to do something even dumber and bring

989
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 3: back Rogers.

990
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 2: Eight is now the Raiders. They're four and twelve. They've

991
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: gone from being in the number one spot a couple

992
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 2: of weeks ago down to four and twelve or eight.

993
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 2: Then you get the Bears at nine.

994
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: Okay, they won't be the quarterback market.

995
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: The Raiders should certainly be in the Yes, they would

996
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: have to trade up to do it.

997
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 3: I would say five or six of the top eight

998
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 3: need a quarterback.

999
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: And then at ten are the Saints at five and eleven.

1000
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: I wonder if so. It brings me to a sort

1001
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: of different topic. But I don't know how many starting

1002
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 3: quarterbacks are going to be available. If we say there's

1003
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 3: only two coming from the draft. I don't think Donald

1004
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 3: leaves Minnesota. No, I'd be shocked if they let Darnold. Yeah,

1005
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 3: go on, do the Saints just totally punt and offer

1006
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: Car to the Titans for a second round pick or something.

1007
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe he's somebody you could get, you could have,

1008
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 3: But I don't want. I mean, I like Justin Fields,

1009
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 3: but am I trusting him or Daniel Jones or.

1010
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 2: Who else somebody might trust Daniel Jones say.

1011
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 3: But who's definitely a you count on as a start?

1012
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 2: Not a great year to be in a quarterback situation.

1013
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: Which again, when when you talk about the Russell Wilson

1014
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: situation here in Pittsburgh, it's why you can't let that

1015
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: guy walk.

1016
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 3: Now, that's that It leads me to the Steelers, is well,

1017
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 3: what's your plan there? You're not going to get.

1018
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald, Aaron Rodgers or or you know.

1019
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: I mean no, I don't want Flacco or Cousins or

1020
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 3: any of these guys that are super old, that's for sure.

1021
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: And I wonder if I'm the Vikes, what can I

1022
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 3: get for JJ McCarthy. You might get the third pick

1023
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 3: in the draft from.

1024
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 2: One I would certainly entertain offers, because Donald's still young

1025
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 2: enough that.

1026
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 3: If you give him a long term deal and have

1027
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: a McCarthy deal set up with any of those quarterbacks

1028
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 3: might regret it.

1029
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: It might it might end up turning into a Daniel

1030
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: Jones situation, but it might not.

1031
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 3: It might not. I mean, I think he's earned it

1032
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 3: and if you could give one of the best teams

1033
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 3: in the league a top eight pick. Yeah, yeah, I

1034
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 3: mean the best corner in the draft. Oh know that

1035
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 3: you get that though, I don't know. I mean he.

1036
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: Didn't play at all in the preseason.

1037
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: Like what I'm saying is it's so quarterback needy. Yeah,

1038
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 3: you know that now's the time to sell them. I

1039
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 3: mean I don't know. That's especially who can pounce on.

1040
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: It situations Some of these teams are in because you know, again, if.

1041
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 3: You're the Niners, do you overpay party because you're not

1042
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 3: going to what else you got? Probably? Yeah? Probably? Right?

1043
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 3: What do the Giants do now? Or I mean there's

1044
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 3: a light of teams that have nothing. Absolutely?

1045
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 2: Absolutely anyways, Matt, that's going to do it for today's show.

1046
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 3: Good stuff.

1047
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,439
Speaker 2: Absolutely so, uh, we will be back again tomorrow. We'll

1048
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: celebrate my championships. No, we won't do that anymore. That's

1049
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 2: the last time I'll mention it. Last time I'll mention it.

1050
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 2: But for my partner, Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here

1051
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 2: on site running the Justin Miller hotline, for Tyler Viittmeyer,

1052
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 2: making sure our video gets out there onto YouTube. I'm

1053
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: Dale Lollie, We thank you for listening to this edition

1054
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Speaker 2: of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.